Rimac Nevera Top Speed Full Run - VBOX
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The Rimac Nevera has set a top speed of 412kph (258mph), making it the fastest electric production car in the world.
Miro Zrnčević, Rimac’s Chief Test and Development Driver: “To travel at 412kph, or 258mph, means travelling at a third of the speed of sound. Simply achieving that alone in a road car is incredibly complex, but in Nevera we have created a car that can travel long distances on a single charge, can tackle tight and twisting race tracks and can drift as well as break straight-line speed records, both for acceleration and V-MAX. I’ve driven Nevera since it first turned a wheel and to see the perfectly honed car that is today is a really emotional moment. The most important thing I have learned during the top-speed attempt is how composed and stable the car was - confirming that our aerodynamics and vehicle dynamics teams have done an amazing job.”
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Rimac Nevera: WLTP: electricity consumption, combined 30.0 KWh/100km; CO2 emissions: combined in g/km: 0
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@buba82
Жыл бұрын
Too bad we will never see Nürburgring cause the fear of fire is too enormous, and there is the impossibility of the car, but that's something you already know.
@RCracingSLO
Жыл бұрын
Why power drop at ~370 km/h despite 100% throttle input?
@TrueShadowMaster
Жыл бұрын
@@RCracingSLO Downhill
@ETV-xt1kq
Жыл бұрын
Where is the claimed peak 1400kW power at all of the time???
@Seventh7Art
Жыл бұрын
Congratulations but you missed the opportunity to run 0-300 or even 0-400-0 km/h on this race track....
this should be the standard for any new record claims. no background music, no edgy view angle cuts, just raw data, thanks Rimac! (still hoping for the stick of truth one day, or i'll make it myself)
@DuvJones
Жыл бұрын
It really should.
@harelrahman9722
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely....
@schubi5196
Жыл бұрын
they got a cinematic video of the run too, its cool that they did both videos
@CITRUS--
Жыл бұрын
Well they did both, also…. Literally everyone does it this way. Bugatti Chiron SS did it raw, SSC’s fake run was raw, all of Koenigseggs runs are raw. Not sure what you and the people who liked you’re comment have been missing. Raw data plus a Cinematic IS the industry standard, and has been for a while.
@lifeonearth94
Жыл бұрын
Like how bugatti did
Imagine that speed on the autobahn and you will still have a passat flashing you from the left lane
@beanapprentice1687
Жыл бұрын
Lmao! But hey, I guess it’s just one Volkswagen passing another one.
@gearloose703
Жыл бұрын
It would be pretty impressive if this can keep up with the passat in long run.
@ohedd
Жыл бұрын
Lmao 100%
@amessad
Жыл бұрын
LMAO !!!! So weirdly true!!!
@GuentherVanRaven
Жыл бұрын
„Was ist denn das für nen kombi?!“
At 24% throttle he was doing 256 kilometers per hour. That’s astonishing. And how fast it accelerates out of the corner is astounding.
@pranavps851
Жыл бұрын
How much should one press the accelerator to go at 50? 5%? Is there a different mapping for that?
@andrewmeyering7343
Жыл бұрын
It's probably got to do with the top speed mode. I'd assume the pressure on the pedal in a different mode would be different than top speed. But that's just a guess from a stranger like me.
@q1337
Жыл бұрын
@@pranavps851 Modern cars are basically computers with wheels, having different curves for throttle input for different modes is really simple. I.e. cruise would be a slower rising curve that reaches top value at near pedal to metal , while this could be something near linear for top speed , probably for better control.
@mv3380
Жыл бұрын
The sound it makes is just astounding.
@ohedd
Жыл бұрын
The throttle response is mapped entirely electronically, obviously. It's 24% at 256 kph because someone typed it into a computer that 24% should be 256 kph. There's nothing incredible about it really. If they wanted to they could make 1% throttle correspond to 400 kph.
95% SOC to 84% in a couple of seconds is truly insane the amount of energy being used to do a run like that.
@realdevbro447
Жыл бұрын
And zero emissions for that mega amount of work done.
@Rahul-kz5fi
Жыл бұрын
@@realdevbro447 technically
@Karim94222
Жыл бұрын
Back in the day when the Veyron did its 407 km/h run, the 100L gas tank emptied in 12 minutes if I recall correctly.
@broshido2745
Жыл бұрын
@@realdevbro447 Zero emissions lmao, you have been brainwashed mate, where i live we still get most of our electric energy from burning fossil fuels/coal plus the production of lithium also isn’t exactly green
@ReximPL
Жыл бұрын
I wonder how much energy you can get back if you Regen to 0km/h
LET'S GOOO!!!❤️❤️❤️ Nürburgring EV Lap Record next please!❤️
@TonyMontana-ke2kz
Жыл бұрын
what do you mean, what lap time could nevera do?
@NuSuntRaresh
Жыл бұрын
@@TonyMontana-ke2kz it could beat all the other street legal EVs but I doubt would beat the vw idr's lap time
@mgcharoudin
Жыл бұрын
@@NuSuntRaresh well yeah, different league. I think any kind of Sub7 full lap is an ambitious, but possible target. Too many variables tho.
@rianrahmanto8069
Жыл бұрын
yeaahhh,, let's go!!!🔥🔥🔥
@gytispranskunas4984
Жыл бұрын
I doubt this car could even beat Dodge Viper on the ring... And we all know Viper can go under 7 minutes.
I actually appreciate no music, no cuts, no different angles, just a video of the record. Thank you Rimac😌🔥
@supreme_xenon
Жыл бұрын
Maybe because this is basically the raw video?
@martinplayer23
Жыл бұрын
@@supreme_xenon yes it is, and I love it
1331kW peak, that's 1810hp in former currency. The technologic details and unbelievable computing behind all that is even more impressive! Congratulations to this masterpiece.
@pranavps851
Жыл бұрын
So there is about a hundred more hp in that car?
@razor_ramon_
Жыл бұрын
I reminisce the Nevera's drag race on Dragtimes channel from last year, the max power output was about 1223 kW, so they finally amped it up!
@srinitaaigaura
Жыл бұрын
@@pranavps851 Usually electric motors make their full power lower down. As speeds go up, losses increase.
@Demidar
Жыл бұрын
so why do people always say 2000 hp car ?
@DAventador44
Жыл бұрын
@@Demidar max power output is 1914hp, so most people say it as 2000
the way it picks up speed from 260 km/h is just amazing ! Congrats to all !!
This little maneuver's gonna cost us 12 % SOC
@valtersvasilis
Жыл бұрын
Yes, it is like 2KWh/km @412 kph... 😬
@gewiener
Жыл бұрын
I remember, the tire of the first Bugatti Veyron only lasted for 11 minutes at 407km. But that was no issue because the fuel tank would have been empty after 9. 😁
@romansenger2322
Жыл бұрын
@@gewiener yeah and it will travel 61km in those 9km. Interestingly the Rimac could manage just about half of that while using the equivalent of 12 liters petrol. Shows how efficient EVs are.
@vl3005
Жыл бұрын
@@romansenger2322 That's just wrong.
@romansenger2322
Жыл бұрын
@@vl3005 nope
Looks so effortless, car barely strays to the right lane. Excellent work team.
At peak power of 1915 HP, the Nevera will go through its 120 kwH battery pack in 5 min 26 sec which is approximately 1% every 3 seconds, which is actually what we see here. If a Chiron made that much power (1915 HP), it would drain its fuel tank in 7 min and 3 sec instead of its usual 9 min. So for those concerned about the rate at which the charge goes down, actually the Nevera did well here. At full tilt, neither electric nor ICE is going to last long making this much power. But it seems the Nevera can't sustain 1915 HP just yet. Still more to come...
@VRSAhmedVRS
Жыл бұрын
I agree it's not bad but factor in a Chiron can so 440kph and if it made the power you say, it would be even faster
@shahan484
Жыл бұрын
@@VRSAhmedVRS Chiron cannot do 500? Oh I'm recalling a viral clip from Forza ig
@AB-nv7bz
Жыл бұрын
It how electric motors work. There is no gearbox. Torque decreases linearly with RPM, so HP is constant over a certain range. As you get near the top torque drops more rapidly, and hp decreases. There is no way around this without a gearbox. Its making almost peak power between 0-200mph, so it doesn't really matter.
@TheSilverShadow17
Жыл бұрын
@@AB-nv7bz The Taycan and Nevera both use 2 speed gearboxes
@AB-nv7bz
Жыл бұрын
@@TheSilverShadow17 You are correct the original did not. Either way its still going past the motors peak hp rpm range. Thats why power is nosediving at the top end.
Congrats to all the engineers, all test drivers, all marketing and PR department of the company! Great achievement!
The quietness and calmness of the car at these speed vs ice vehicles. On one hand it's just amazingly serene on the other you just expect the roar or wind or engine with it. Amazing
@vika0194
Жыл бұрын
And that's why electric cars must compensate with performance. Because that's all they can offer. And yet people get tired and see no reason to accelerate because the lack of sound makes them boring after 2 days.
@gruppegee
Жыл бұрын
@@vika0194 So performance is a bad thing and you'd bore of it in 2 days? Interesting view... I'll have to disagree with that entirely. If you enjoy performance then you will enjoy the car along with the challenges of driving a EV performance car vs an ice platform. Fast is fun, fun is fast
@TheBowerbird
Жыл бұрын
@@vika0194 Spoken like someone who has never driven one. Instant torque is far more fun than a stupid, piped in turbo sound.
@skierpage
Жыл бұрын
@@vika0194 I hear this rhetoric about the thrilling sound of an engine from people, and then Iisten to their crummy German SUVs farting and grumbling up my hill. I don't know what fake engine sounds are being piped into the cabin to make these people feel better about their macho all-terrain-conquering car, but most modern gassers sound terrible!
@xxfreedomxx9479
Жыл бұрын
@@TheBowerbirdagreed
Phew, finally a car company that posts a legit uncut run for a record.
@Bippu_4.3
Жыл бұрын
get over it
Čestitam vam na ovom uspjehu i na svakom narednom. Jedva čekam da vidim šta sljedeće spremate.
Awesome video with diagnostic graphics! Well done RimacAutomobili!
Svaka čast,kako je krenio kmh mislio sam da nema kraja ubrzanju🚗💨💨💨
Mate i ekipo,BRAVO BRAVO BRAVO!!!!!!. Još samo krug po Ringu....
@aleksandar.tasevski
Жыл бұрын
I to ćemo dočekati. 💪💪💪
Congratulations Team Rimac! Truly inspirational!
So smooth and stable, I got a feeling another faster attempt will follow. Godspeed
412 km/h in an electric car. Great work guys. You set new standards in this area.
@Cloxxki
Жыл бұрын
I do believe Mercedes did this nearly a century ago. Need to check my notes :-)
@n2l2l
Жыл бұрын
@@Cloxxki in electric ? >400km/h that would be interesting historic fact. If you'll find it please share.
@Smzxe
Жыл бұрын
I bet $2000 It will do 0-400 km/h in 26 seconds flat And 0-400-0 km/h approx 36 or 37 seconds Did not beat Regera but Still very impressive Regera 300-400 km/h 10 seconds This Rimac Nevera took 15 seconds to do 300-400 km/h
@f1lip797
Жыл бұрын
@@n2l2l he wont find it
@razor_ramon_
Жыл бұрын
@@n2l2l that was ICE.
I really would like to see footage from that bridge!
What impresses me the most is its stability at over 250 mph its almost on rails.
@tappajaav
5 ай бұрын
I think the fact that considerable amount of it's hefty weight is near ground(batteries)
Would be intrigued to see the how the regen breaking tops those battery’s back up from that speed !!
@juiceofsapho
Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't get much energy back at all, the majority of energy is spent in pushing the air out of the way. The energy of motion at that speed is about 3.6 kWh 😏
Pretty amazing for being their first production car, i wouldn't believe how insane their Rimac successor will be. After all RIMAC is designing the Bugatti Chiron successor as well.
@skierpage
Жыл бұрын
Rimac managed to make eight of the concept_one before the Nevera. I wonder how many production Neveras it has delivered to customers beyond Nico Rosberg's #001.
@shahan484
Жыл бұрын
Rimac has Bugatti guys
amazing! work of art
Damn!!! Rimac Nevera approaching Mach Speed! This is incredible....and so stable!
Amazing 412km/h top speed
@razor_ramon_
Жыл бұрын
What is even more amazing, that's not theoretical top speed! If they slightly change gear ratio in top speed direction, front motors would keep working, and 430+ km/h could be real.
@beanapprentice1687
Жыл бұрын
@@razor_ramon_ from where did you get that the front motors stop working at 412km/h? I see you’ve commented this under a few comments.
@razor_ramon_
Жыл бұрын
@@beanapprentice1687 you can see instant power drop at 370 km/h, it goes back and forth. That's front motors.
@beanapprentice1687
Жыл бұрын
@@razor_ramon_ no, that’s the battery management system reacting to one of the cells overheating. Rimac says that they will recalibrate the BMS with the new data they acquired so that the power does not drop off prematurely abruptly like that.
@razor_ramon_
Жыл бұрын
@@beanapprentice1687 there were no overheating issues
This content is way better than sport magasins and their 30min video with crazy music, drifts and video cutting
holy moly the charge just dropping that much
simple and informative
I am proud to be Croatian 💪👏👏🏎🏁😁
Bravo Mate
Looks very stable at those speeds too
Prvo čestitke svima...ovo je ludo 👍 Zašto snaga pada? Pretpostavljam radi zagrijavanja baterija? Dajte još Nordschleife izmjerite 👍
What a beautiful beast
256mph.....bloody amazing ✌️🇬🇧
Zakon
bro that thing is just so quick cant wait for rimac vs chiron SS
Wait, that's 1.1 Megawatts? holly..
@trenthazbroek5602
Жыл бұрын
1.3MW and don't call me Holly
@Filip_Phreriks
Жыл бұрын
@@trenthazbroek5602 You like gladiator movies?
Great technology
Rođen sam u Livnu, obožavam brzinu
This, this is what I like. Just keeping things low-key and simple. No hype ups like Tesla. Just surprise them out of nowhere and prove. The fan base of Rimac, Audi and Porsche are sooo much better than Tesla like fr. Got no hate on Tesla, just their fanbase.
the best of all cars
Now this needs to be a thing since i never have this POV yet which is strange
Reminds me of my 1982 Gold Honda Civic…unreal!
Impressive topspeed for an EV. I noticed SOC drops 1% every 3 seconds. That means at that max throttle max speed, the battery will last you 5mins. If you are traveling at 258mph for 5mins, you can get 21.4 miles out of the whole battery. If I'm not mistaken, james may said a bugatti veyron will run out of fuel in 12 mins, which for a veyron to travel at 253mph for 12mins will get it to 50.5 miles. So looks like ICE still wins as far as full power and range.
@stajpi
Жыл бұрын
you, sir, are an.... where? where would you go 253mph for 12 minutes? who cares who wins?????
@marcelwittmann2957
Жыл бұрын
@@stajpi germany at night
@stajpi
Жыл бұрын
@@marcelwittmann2957 yea, right👍
@Muhluri
Жыл бұрын
Good to know I can hit 400kph on the highway and still have enough range to make it to work 😂
@StephanAust
Жыл бұрын
And a Porsche Panamera 4S TDI from PP Performance with 90l fuel tank can go 1h 17 min.@305 kmh. So the Porsche V8 Diesel wins, if you drive from Hamburg to Munich at night... 😀
Congrats guys!
WoooooooooW 412 km/h - normal flight !
Looking forward to a Rimac/Bugatti hybrid best of both worlds, engine noise ,revs and added electric power. We really want an electric motor on each wheel, 4 electric motors not 2 or 3 only. 0-100mph in 2.9secs, 315mph+ top speed.
from a completely silent car is crazy
Well done!!
Wow 1.1 MW of deployment at top speed, insane!
@razor_ramon_
Жыл бұрын
It actually dropped to 0.96 MW because front motors turned off because they weren't made for those kind of speeds
@callumcurtis15
Жыл бұрын
@@razor_ramon_ Good information to have, I see a lot of people making claims that is is for thermal management but that make more sense.
Mightly impressive. Well done Mate and the team at Rimac. Vidimo Se Uskoro 👍👍
Would be nice to know why the fluctuations in power output at a constant 100% throttle. Wouldn't be traction control at that speed. Heat management or battery discharge catching up to output??
SOC is interesting to watch :D
From what Mate Rimac told, there is still room from improvement. There are a lot of power fluctuations.
@cuebner
Жыл бұрын
You can see that in the video. Maybe the BMS or something is a bit cautious about unleashing that much power continually. I would expect the power to peak after full throttle has been applied and slowly fade the adapt to battery resistance
@pollemar
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, maybe 430
Superb performance and achievement💪. Congratulations Rimac Team.
That is what it's called full power
Kratko i jasno!!
Very impressive. I was more interested in the power drop at those speeds.
@razor_ramon_
Жыл бұрын
That's front motors that turned off
最高👍 乗りたい欲しい🎉 よし買いに行こう!😂
Peak power 1300kw ( approx 1800HP) but can not give this power long time,. Can do better if it can , but congrat!!!!! Record for a full electric car Chapeau 💯💯💯🎉🎉🎉💖💖💖
Power output more than 1 megawatt. That mind boggling!
Congrats!!
looking at those power fluctuations suggests that 412kmh is targeted .... and that it could do a fair bit more 🙂
@amvalkyrie6496
Жыл бұрын
Agree. Especially since the claim was exactly 412 when they unveiled it
@bamischijf5968
Жыл бұрын
If the electronics and cooling package would allow it yes. But if they targeted 412kmh, good chance it cant provide higher speeds reliably
Without a gearbox. Impressive engineering
Napred momci !! 💪💪
What is that drop of power at 370 kmh (than back on full) and then started dropping down back at cca 407 kmh. Because of battery level ? Battery overheating ?
So partway thru the run the watts went from 1200 down to 800 then shot back up again, what was that ?
Superb piece of machinery and engineering and somehow it manages to be completely soulless… Numbers are impressive but not exciting. Even if I had the opportunity of getting one, I would much prefer stick to my “slow” 6.2 liter V8 from my 2009 C63 and I’d enjoy it for as long as I can.
Top speed and acceleration ! Now broke the Nurburgring lap record
@pollemar
Жыл бұрын
For EV maybe, but not the 919 Evo
A smooth sailing! Impressive!
We want the autonomous lap too!!
Which tyres do you have on Rimac?ty 🏆👍🏅
🎉🎉🎉
Love that u test it in vw’s oval track
@Cloxxki
Жыл бұрын
VW basically BEGGED Rimac to take control of Bugatti, their fastest brand. Porsche seems to lean quite a bit on Rimac to develop their new EV platforms. I suspect already for Taycan they were heavily involved to make sure Taycan would not suck on the drivetrain side. And it hasn't.
@GhostHunter9137
Жыл бұрын
@@Cloxxki yeah its cool
@Smzxe
Жыл бұрын
@@GhostHunter9137 Rimac bought Bugatti Or VW sold buggati to Rimac basically So now they can freely test thier cars together Still waiting for 0-300 km/h record and 0-400 kmph I guess 0-300 around 10.5 seconds 0-400 km/h 26 seconds?
@ron999
Жыл бұрын
Nope, this is Papenburg test oval track. Not a vw's...
@GhostHunter9137
Жыл бұрын
@@ron999 i tought it is. Thanks for the info.
So nice....speeeeeeeeed!!!!! Next stop: NORDSCHLEIFFE pretty please? Really curious about all that Mate i ekipa, najjači ste u galaksiji!!!!
This is remarkable moment for not only for EVs but also for entire car industry. Proving that there are no gearboxes are needed for high performance EVs. But why the power drops suddenly at 0:22?
@KyleHubb
Жыл бұрын
Technically, it's a single speed gearbox.
@Protein_isgood
Жыл бұрын
@@KyleHubb Yessir
@skrlaviolette
Жыл бұрын
@@KyleHubb If I'm not mistake it actually has a 2 speed gearbox? At least that was the plan a couple years ago. Maybe they changed it. I'm also curious why the power drops, cause the Throttle stays at 100%. Also you can see, that the power drops at all whells more or less the same percantage.
@KyleHubb
Жыл бұрын
@@skrlaviolette I'm not sure why power drops, but, I suspect it's to control heat in the battery and motors. As far as the two speed gearbox, it changed to single speed gearing for all four motors (instead of single speed gearing controlling front motors, and another single speed controlling rear). You have to follow the development of this car to see where he made the changes. Watching his interviews with Top Gear, Jonny Smith (Late Brake Show), and a few other motoring journalists will also help to fully understand the car. Originally supposed to have come out 2 years ago, but got delayed cos he wanted to absolutely make sure he trounces Elon Musk's next generation Roadster. Some difference between his carbon-sleeved motor design and Tesla's carbon-weaved design is that his rear motor RPM tops out at 17,700 (front motors at 15,000) while Tesla's top out at over 23,000 (each Plaid motor). So, it'd be great to see how Tesla responds to this. Also, there are three car manufacturers today (2 currently EV only) with 20,000 rpm "redline" motors -- Tesla (Plaid powertrain), Hyundai/Kia (GT& N powertrain), and Lucid Motors powertrain.
I wonder why the power and torque droped @ 0:23 , it does have only single spead gearbox, so this must be a decision from the power management system?
@beanapprentice1687
Жыл бұрын
Yea I was wondering about that too. The throttle stayed at 100%, so maybe there was a road traction issue (such as bumpiness or water)? The torque vectoring system is super responsive and would probably cut power in that situation if it detects wheel slip. Edit: well I guess I was wrong.
@MateRimacAuto
Жыл бұрын
Lots of control algorithms and various battery/powertrain State of Power calculations. There are hundreds of sensors in the battery, measuring all cell voltages (174) several times per second, about 100 temperature sensors, current sensors etc. Basically it is some cells coming close to the limit (voltage drop) and the control systems reacting too abruptly and then scaling back. We now have the data and will optimise the control systems which will result in higher average power and faster acceleration. Still lots of potential in the system.
@mindasb
Жыл бұрын
@@MateRimacAuto Thanks for the answer. Absolutelly love the car and what it represents!
@user-ne3rb8ps8j
Жыл бұрын
@@MateRimacAuto Thank you, you revealed a lot of interesting info :) Are those motors used in the car so called concentrated winding motors?
@Protein_isgood
Жыл бұрын
@@MateRimacAuto Does it mean that nevera can accelerate up to 400 faster than this video?
Is it flying or driving on wheels??? So smooth and effortless.
@razor_ramon_
Жыл бұрын
Both
FUUUUUUULL POWEEEEEEEEERRRR
Talk about stable, the drivers hands BARELY moved at 400km/hr, that just blows my mind
Would have been fun to see the battery charge state on screen as well. See how fast it drops at those speeds.
@u8un7u
Жыл бұрын
Third indicator is battery charge state (SOC - State Of the Charge)
YES!!! I’ve been waiting 4 years for this! Go rimac go!
I have a question about power: How long can a car sustain its maximum power? I ask this because I assume that power is designed for dynamic conditions, where it is common for drivers to reach maximum power and then hit the brakes to reduce speed in normal human circumstances.
what was that massive power drop at 0:23 even when the throttle was at 100%?
@razor_ramon_
Жыл бұрын
Front motors turned off
Congratulations Rimac, you're leading
Hmm.. With Mate we only need road to Moon and we can start harvesting Moon with Nevera :) Epic :) Mate povedi me daleko od ovih ljudi, tamo gdje je ljubav jaca od zla, gdje ti ces biti ti a ja cu biti jaaaaaa povediii meeeeee
Just wow
that's one fast vacuum cleaner!
Could you kindly reposition the end "card" for the promoted video so it doesn't block the data displayed on the right? Ty
So how long does the battery last at top speed? One of the crazy facts about the Veyron top speed run I remember is that it takes 7 mins to empty a full tank at top speed. I'm keen to know how the nevera compares.
@lachlanhempell
Жыл бұрын
Probably even less then the veyron. It lost 12% of its battery in that short time
@loganm2766
Жыл бұрын
7 minutes is actually a long time if you think about it.
Crazy to think another production Car could come past this like it was stood still….. 50mph faster is crazy…
It's interesting how BMS varies the energy output in kwt while the throttle continiously is at 100% tho
Wow, very impressive!
The car is more stable at 400 km/h than my car at 100 hm/h
@huawafabe
Жыл бұрын
100 hm/h would be hectometers/hour, which is 10 km/h, that's not very stable your car 😆
#AmaZinG technic at it best ;-)🥰
Why it was not using full 2000hp ? In another video with telemetry it was showing around 1700hp in use? Was that due to battery?
@DreamEvil121
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My guess is that electric motors also have some power curve, similar to IC engines. So at very high rpm, they lose a bit of their power. To avoid this, another gear would be needed