Attention ridgid fans, I recently communicated with ridgid about the blade wobble, the sent me a kit , which included a back washer, the was machined, a ring, and a new screw, after installing them, it seemed that it corrected the wobble, I only cut into a 2x4 a couple of cuts and worked well, even the shadow of the blade was straight. Now this might just be a plaster covering up a wound. I hope to hear from other purchasers of this model R4221

@graphguy

6 жыл бұрын

I have been a Ridgid fan for 15 years, and have a 12 inch Ridgid, but want a slider now. Unfortunately I am still seeing 2018 posts about wobble on this one. Even though I love the 70 degree swing (every miter saw should have it), way too many posts about blade wobble... is probably going to force me to buy the Dewalt.

I just called rigid this afternoon. I found out that they updated the gears and arbor assembly to get rid of the blade wobble after serial number 1751 (one seven five one). She said they recently updated this information. You're welcome. :)

I just bought this discontinued model at Home depot for 200.00 I had seen this video in past and remebered this video i am very happy now...

I just bought one of these at HD and it's worked great so far!

Just ordered one today! Love the fact it goes up to 70 degrees both ways

Good review fellaors. A serious candidate as I'm looking for a new miter saw. Thanks

Just bought this saw. Thank you so much. For the life of me I couldn't find the blade tool. LOL such a noob. Thanks for the vid. Can't wait to get started.

@WorkshopAddict

7 жыл бұрын

jayrodathome glad we could help. Hope you enjoy the saw!

@darkfog360

2 жыл бұрын

Lol got one lastnight for my wood working projects. Spent a good 20 mins looking for the allen wrench tool

Good input i like

Thank for talking about the black sign of the miter saw … left side at back

Got one last night for my projects. Love it!

@jex8046

2 жыл бұрын

Any wobble?

@Picquets

Жыл бұрын

@@jex8046 just purchased for our shop, there should not be any wobble with the new models. I will give you an update on if there is any wobble when we get to test it out later this week/next week!

This test is only if you want to saw with a precision miter saw. (not for rough work). Tips and Test: Very important if you would like to saw with precision. (avoid torsion as much as possible)! Always choose a Miter saw with a handle positioned in a vertical line above the saw blade. Everything must be aligned, slide rails, handle, and saw blade,it is much better this way the blade will not tilt. Because there is some torsion in the aluminum housing . And choose an engine with softstart on it to prevent wear of the gear and worm shaft. It is very important that everything is aligned. Here are some examples to show how the handle must be positioned above the blade. Bosch gcm 800 sj / Bosch gcm 8 sjl / Evolution rage 3 / FESTOOL KS 60 / Bosch GCM 8 SDE / FESTOOL KS 60 E KAPEX / Metabo KGSV 72 Xact / Bosch PCM 8 SD / Hitachi C10FSH. (This also is the case with the Miter saw without the slide rails). (If you want). You can test it yourself at home if there is torsion in the aluminum housing. Step-1. First you make a saw cut from +-5 mm deep in to a flat piece of wood about +- 20 mm thick to this with the normal handle positioned on the right side of the Miter saw (the wood it will remain in place until the test is completed). Step-2. Then repeat this by pushing the saw blade down with your hand (finger) on the aluminum protective cover were the saw blade is cased in. Just now only do this without the running engine. Step-3. Now you can see if the saw blade will be positioned in or next to the saw cut. If the saw blade is (+- 0,2 / 0,5 mm) next to the saw cut then there is torsion in the aluminum housing (test is completed). Step-4. therefor it is much better to choose a Miter saw with the handle positioned vertical in line above the saw blade. Conclusion: how further away the handle is from the saw blade how more chance of torsion in the aluminum housing.(don't go for that). Also with a cheap slide miter saw it is still better the handgriff in line a above the saw blade than on the right side. Maybe they will make it someday then we have a winner...

Great video guys

@WorkshopAddict

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

How does this compare to the DWS780 in accuracy if both were given a similar 80T blade.

Is there a way to adjust the square on the mitre extensions?

Damn that thing is a monster!!!

@WorkshopAddict

7 жыл бұрын

It is, but if you read some of the comments below, people have been having issues with bearings and blade wobble. :(

@chevy5137

7 жыл бұрын

Ya I have heard that about that saw it's to bad. I gotta say my dream saw is that really nice Ridgid 10" miter saw, but I am sure I won't get it anytime soon cuz I have the Ryobi 10" sliding miter saw and I also have the Ridgid 18-volt brushless 7-1/4" dual bevel sliding miter saw and I love that little sucker I can pack it anywhere so easy since it only weighs 24 pounds and has a small foot print and blade for it are cheap, it's cut cut capacity is 2"x8" but for my needs and the kind of things I cut it works just fine and cuts like 95% of everything I need to cut, I really like it the dual bevel is nice and I like the shadow line plus I have mine adjusted perfect so my cuts always come out precise, I actually just picked up a 7-1/4" miter saw specific blade for it and it's the only one I have ever see that's specifically designed for a miter saw, it's a Dewalt blade and I am sure they made it to go with their 7-1/4" miter saw so I picked it up and threw it on today and man it works great best blade I have used on my Ridgid miter saw, it's not a Dewalt cheap line saw blade either it is one of their top of the line black and yellow series blade which I would say is definitely as good as a Diablo blade maybe even better!

What are the differences between the R4221 and the R4222?

just got the saw and i hate when they use cheap bearing for the blade now i gotta get it changed or go back to a bosch ......but this ridgid has a nice design

does anyone know what the nob by the upper fence lock do? I haven't seen anything that describes its function.

I had bad wobble also out of the box...Took blade off....cleaned all the washers....seems fine now

@WorkshopAddict

5 жыл бұрын

Dump the oem blade too.

@WorkshopAddict I have this saw and the MSUV stand is on its way. I use it occasionally. I have a very small shed shop so I was thinking of leaving it at 70deg standing in the corner. Could the weight of the motor hanging laterally be an issue long-term? Is there any problem with it living 99% of its life on the stand in the vertical position?

@WorkshopAddict

5 жыл бұрын

No problem at all with it staying in the full 70-degree miter and on a stand vertically. Ours is stored that way.

I've been looking at miter saws for over a year now. This model appears to be so versatile that I would sooner purchase it and just construct a Miter Station around it, rather than design a miter station for multiple brands, depending on who has best deal when I'm ready to purchase.

On the back of the fence there is a nob next to the nob that lock the fence and the owner’s manual dose not say what that dose?

You can hear the blade wobble at the start of this video just like mine does and the one we bought for work. yes the blade does wobble! Even after replacing the blade with a Freud Diablo blade! It is terrible!

@jamieschepker6930

6 жыл бұрын

Cambria0001 I heard the exact same thing. Really surprised they didn’t say anything about the vibration/wobbling issues.

Is there any other Miter Saw with this degree capacity? or even close? (70°)

@WorkshopAddict

7 жыл бұрын

Not that we know of.

Bought new R4221 and stand; no instructions on how to unlock and raise the blade arm. I have tried pushing, turning and pulling the head pin lock with vice grips, although not too strongly since I need to find out how it is supposed to be removed lest I damage it.

@WorkshopAddict

5 жыл бұрын

At 1:38 we show the depth stop. Just behind that is the headlock. You need to pull out on the knurled pin.

What is max length you can cut with slider?

question: with the 16"-90° cut capacity, would this work to cut 4-4x4 (common) posts clamped together (actual dimension 3.5" x 14" total) or would it only work on a 2x16? On the home depot website, it lists the cut capacity at 2x16 OR 4x6, just wondering what would keep it from being able to do (basically) 4x16...

@WorkshopAddict

7 жыл бұрын

C. Todd Smith yes it should work with four by fours

@mefirst4266

4 жыл бұрын

16 INCH IS THE TRAVEL

Many comments about blade wobble. I just purchased this saw at home depot for $349. out of the box the blade wobbled. I had purchased a finer blade for trim work, same wobble. RIDGID tech line said return it. I will be checking the blade wobble before I leave the store. I recorded recorded a video of the blade wobble so all can see. link soon.

@WorkshopAddict

7 жыл бұрын

Blade wobble seems to plague this unit. Hope the next one is perfect for you.

@Unknown--error

7 жыл бұрын

Did you load a video of the blade wobble? I want to see it. I am experiencing it on my saw.

@ColinQuinnuniverse

7 жыл бұрын

Justin Anderson yes I did record . I will upload and share.

@Unknown--error

7 жыл бұрын

Let me know when you got the video up. I checked your youtube uploads and didnt see it there yet.

@Unknown--error

7 жыл бұрын

So I was trying to figure out how bad my blade wobble was, watching the edge of the blade as its spinning. Just not seeing much because its spinning so fast, was thinking maybe it was in my head since I read all the bad reviews my mind was looking for a problem that might not exist. So I put a 2x4 under the blade and lowered it to cut and I saw the blade shadow on the wood. That shadow would shudder and swaying side to side. It was pretty noticeable then. That shadow was moving between 2 points at least 1/8". Someone above commented that you can hear the motor and blade wobble at the start of the video here. My saw definitely sounds rough like that. I can feel it through the handle too.

In the market for a new saw. I have all Rigid tools and I love them. The LSA is hard to beat. They have a new model the R4222. I wonder what the difference is? Maybe they fixed the blade wobble???

@ramoscollege

3 жыл бұрын

I know I'm late but yes the R4222 still has the wobble.

Did you guys notice any excessive blade wobble? I just purchased this saw and the blade or arbor seems so out of alignment it's scary. I'm a pro GC and am very familiar with just about any tool and this one is rough. I hope it's a defect but others have complained of similar issues. It's not really a lateral blade deflection that you get with a lot of cheap saws - it's almost as if the arbor or blade is not centered causing the blade to spin like a parabola, not a true circle if that makes sense. The blade actually jumps when it first makes contact with stock wood because each tooth is hitting the piece slightly different than the other. Please let me know if anyone has had this happen. Thanks guys!

@WorkshopAddict

7 жыл бұрын

Ours did not have this issue.

@TheMacdaddy68

7 жыл бұрын

I had the exact same issue with the saw I purchased on Black Friday, I returned it and picked up another and it is fine. The saw is very versatile and it folds up on the stand into a small area to store it. So far so good.

@jima7983

7 жыл бұрын

Mark, glad to hear they made at least one good saw. I'm really ticked off I wasted 2 trips to home depot. I'm in there enough as it is. I really liked the versatility of the saw but couldn't bring myself to buy a third. Went with the new Dewalt 12" 120v battery/corded saw. Huge price jump but seems worth it.

@johnc7613

Жыл бұрын

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@TheMacdaddy68

Жыл бұрын

@@johnc7613 I wound up returning that one as well and went with the 10" Ridgid sliding miter saw with belt drive, it's been a very good saw for me and it is used very frequently. From what I've seen the direct drive motors have issues. I believe the new Ridgid miter saws have gone back to belt drive, maybe not a direct admittance of bad engineering....

Can anyone tell me how to lift up the blade

2x16 never seen one or hear of one!

Bought 2. Returned both for blade wobble, and bearing noise when the blade is actuated. It would be an amazing product if not for that. And after emailing and calling soooo many times, it's obvious that Rigid is not going to admit that there's any issue. They'll continue to sell them to suckers who don't know any better.

@WorkshopAddict

7 жыл бұрын

That just sucks that this saw is not reliable from the store.

@paysonbiker

7 жыл бұрын

It really is unfortunate. It's highly disappointing and frustrating. They've got what is potentially an incredible product. Just the 70-degree miter is going to improve people's experience. But if Rigid won't even admit there's an issue with the arbor or whatever's causing the blade wobble and bearing problems, I won't buy it.

@CG-iq4mb

6 жыл бұрын

Wade Haskell there's something not right with the motor I returned it and got another one it's little better

i guess this is the one i bought. it's huge! huge! too big! but i'm really happy with it.

@WorkshopAddict

7 жыл бұрын

It is big, but it has some serious cutting ability at 90 degrees. 16" is crazy. Hope you enjoy it.

@charlesholland6851

7 жыл бұрын

WorkshopAddict yes I love the capacity. I was looking to get the new 10 inches that comes stock with Diablo blade but my store didn't have. I ended up with this. I make outdoor furniture and the ability to crosscut 10 inch cypress boards makes me happy.

For wood working this or the Bosch your recommendation

@WorkshopAddict

6 жыл бұрын

Brian Pimental Do you have a budget? The Bosch might be a bit quicker to set up for bevels, but overall, this is a good saw for the money. For fine woodworking, this saw has more of a miter angle.

@brianpimental2948

6 жыл бұрын

What about the New corded makita saw

@brianpimental2948

6 жыл бұрын

$around $500

@WorkshopAddict

6 жыл бұрын

Brian Pimental Nice saw. They had some manufacturing assembly issues that needed to be adjusted to make it accurate. Of budget is no issue, the festool kapex would be the one.

@brianpimental4539

6 жыл бұрын

would you wait for the Mikita or save for Festool

Compound mitres Notoriously bad on dust collection. HAve you or Would you comment on or maybe show this aspect in real time in your video ??

I just got this my 1st one idk how to lift the blade. Can anyone help?? Ty

@WorkshopAddict

6 жыл бұрын

There is a pin that holds the head down. If you watch the video we show it.

@outofthebox9913

6 жыл бұрын

I finally found it after 10 mins of looking. Thank you so much for taking the time. Happy 4th. Ty

@michaelvidalhomeimprovemen3705

4 жыл бұрын

@@outofthebox9913 🙄

I bought this saw and returned it the same day because off the wobbel... It's a shame cause I really wanted it to be great...I guess these guys don't mention anything about the blade wobbel. I know 4 other people who gave the saw a try also and they all returned it and got the DeWalt including myself... Mite be great for a weekend warrior working at home. But for precision cuts I don't trust it

@WorkshopAddict

6 жыл бұрын

jujurock64 Our saw did not have blade wobble. From what we see, about 1 out of 10 have it.

My blade wobbles too.

@WorkshopAddict

5 жыл бұрын

Contact ridgid, they did send out new washers that corrected that. Also, ditch the stock junk blade.

Just bought this. $299 at HD. Returning it. Blade wobble is bad and motor bogs down on 3/4 plywood on a cross cut. 20 year GC so I have experience with tools. Bummer

@WorkshopAddict

5 жыл бұрын

That sucks. The blade wobble issue was supposed to be taken care of over a year ago.

@tomforward990

5 жыл бұрын

@@WorkshopAddict I know. I wasn't even in the market but for the price I figured I would try it. I'm going to see if they will swap it and try again. It's got nice features.

@WorkshopAddict

5 жыл бұрын

@@tomforward990 See if you can get the 10" version. It is a bit more accurate imho.

@tomforward990

5 жыл бұрын

@@WorkshopAddict I'll see if the 10" is in. Good tip. It's honestly for framing and decking. I have a Makita LS 10" for trim. Thanks

I just bought one model R4222 and I brought it back im very disappointed. The blade wobbles, a lot of vibration in handle, and the motor bogs down when cutting wood. I made a review video on it.

I a lot reviews reported blade wobble? true?

@WorkshopAddict

7 жыл бұрын

papiofisher we read a lot about it also but have not seen it.

@ferg2929

7 жыл бұрын

papiofisher mine had a very slight wobble to it but after about 5 minutes of solid run time it went away. may just need to be broke in. a lot of reviews I seen that had blade wobble never gave it a chance and just returned it. mine cuts perfect 90°

@ColinQuinnuniverse

7 жыл бұрын

WorkshopAddict I checked three saws from store inventory. All had blade wobble. The arbor is just not supported well and thus allows the blade a wobble. it is a design flaw. If anyone has a good true arbor, consider yourself lucky.

Daddy likes.

Disappointing in comments. I just ordered this. Then realized it’s wobble prob. I won’t even open it and just return it.

Biggest negative is that it takes up a lot of room. If you keep this in a shop it will stick way out from your miter station. Pooop.

I have this same saw! It works great. However, it’s very large, and heavy. I built a flip top workbench specifically for this that can be seen here…kzread.info/dash/bejne/eZ-guK-BZJPOcag.htmlfeature=shared

The positive stops are a joke, they are sloppy! Its a degree or two of slop in the positive stop. Nothing more than a harbor freight saw.

Very disappointing saw. It looks good and has all the features you could ask for. However it cuts like shit. There is a weird intermittent vibration that causes about 1/16th of an inch blade deflection. It’s almost like the electric brake kicks on when it shouldn’t. I bought 2 and returned them both.