He was smart for lawyering up and shutting up. Angry Joe did the same thing, and it worked out for him as the accusations were proven false. People who think silence means admitting guilt are imbeciles.

@rurikki5350

6 ай бұрын

shut up jaybee

@MrCipasa

6 ай бұрын

@@jaybee4288 dude you know fuck all

@KingCrimeTime

6 ай бұрын

​@@jaybee4288 He's sueing multiple parties tho. You don't do that when you're guilty

@uservenny84

6 ай бұрын

​@@jaybee4288 that's not how that works

@Ziphers69

6 ай бұрын

​​@@jaybee4288innocent until proven guilty we have due process in this country ps she's not going to fuck you lil bro

Damn didn't expect Rich to show up again after so long

@coolyeh1017

6 ай бұрын

The writers aren't done yet. But honestly it seems like he only sued because he was sued first.

@user-qe1pz6lp1q

6 ай бұрын

He needs to rebuilt his fanbase before Dawntrail releases

@ArchieGamez

6 ай бұрын

​@@user-qe1pz6lp1qI personally think it will take longer than DT release

@slapjack373

6 ай бұрын

@@coolyeh1017 The thing is tho, he may have been preparing to sue and she sued first. He counter sued very shorty after(10 days), which could mean he was preparing/trying to get more proof. I could be wrong but i would imagine it would take much longer to counter sue someone had he not been prepared.

@itsyaboiherman

6 ай бұрын

ive been WAITING on this day

Those content creators who immediately only believed one side of the story would ABSOLUTELY be pissed if it was false allegations aimed towards them.

@Nyakomata

6 ай бұрын

What if they were true allegations? You think they would be mad too?

@StormierNik

6 ай бұрын

@@Nyakomata No shit. The point is they don't think about being in someone elses shoes as often as they should. They don't think "it can happen to me". They say the most safe response possible of following whatever anyone else has said. Believe the woman, dont think about anything guilty until proven innocent. The whole "Always believe women" bullshit is sexist in itself because it paints women as people who are perfect angels who never lie or have malicious intent. It puts women on a pedestal that ends up flipping in the opposite direction when they do something more visibly and mildly wrong so they end up getting even more backlash than they should in some instances.

@Justaguywithglassesok

6 ай бұрын

thats the thing, theres no WHAT IF, theres only ONE TRUTH, and till you got said TRUTH you stfu, simple as that. gossiping is fun and all, but not when it could potentially destroy an innocents persons rep.@@Nyakomata

@lv.99mastermind45

5 ай бұрын

​@@Nyakomataraped me

@FabricateFrog

4 ай бұрын

FACTS. Asmongold is a snake

Some have a bald fetish, be careful out there xeems.

@miorioff

6 ай бұрын

You mean "be searching for it, xeems"? 😂

@infinite0rbit

6 ай бұрын

I do. His head looks like a tit 😘

@TrueChaoSclx

6 ай бұрын

But it looks so smooth

Sounds like Rich got Serious with Mia and Lexi flipped her shit. Happens every day.

@FabricateFrog

4 ай бұрын

facts it was clearly a scorned ex lover especially with the timing of it all

@bigbangattack97

3 ай бұрын

scorned x lover that has texts saying she didnt wanna fuck that night or at all

This is one of thoose things where no one but the lawyers are required to take a side.

I like Xeno's approach to this, wanting to hear both sides of the story before coming to any conclusion, you don't see that very often anymore. Thank you Strummer

@lanisolfire5692

6 ай бұрын

Same. It seems like the ovious thing to do but people tend to instead pick a side before hearing all the facts

@AngryPlayerGaming

6 ай бұрын

@@lanisolfire5692 the issue is that people have drawn conclusions from the information given, I find it hard to fault people for forming their opinion with the facts that they have. it's hard to hear both sides of a story when only one side is being given.

law and order: svu taught me how to believe victims but remain skeptical growing up and i‘ll always be thankful.

@xianviii

4 ай бұрын

you don't have to believe them. but you do have to take what they say seriously. some for the other side. take what everyone says seriously and wait for the evidence to show which side you should believe.

@FabricateFrog

4 ай бұрын

i dont believe anyone until i see evidence. of any crime whatsoever. thats how it should be not "believe all victims" thats brainrot twitter mentality.

@chadm2343

3 ай бұрын

@@xianviii you added nothing to what OP said, OP basically said the same thing LMAO

@bosspaw4028

Ай бұрын

@@chadm2343There’s a massive distinction between “believe a victim” and “take what they say seriously”. The first one you’re immediately siding with the accuser the second you’re not siding with anyone and instead gathering evidence. I mean think about it, you’re already assuming they’re a victim in the first one.

Big Xeems - always love the content you pump out, and we can't forget to give some love to Leo for editing this

Ever since the projared case, i don't trust allegations like this. Both parties could be equally rotten.

@gobleupmonster

6 ай бұрын

Ever since the Projared case, I've stood my ground on this. If you believe a crime has taken place, go to the police. If you take it to social media, I'm immediately suspicious of you and will wait to hear the other side's story of events.

@freshskittles92

6 ай бұрын

YEP @@gobleupmonster

@Deku-yg1vz

6 ай бұрын

You would also think that after the Projared case that streamers would learn to shut their cockholsters until the final verdict.

@sdkdoom

6 ай бұрын

you don't have the prior knowledge to judge either case, and you shouldn't trust what you think about it either.

@bigbangattack97

3 ай бұрын

​@@gobleupmonsterwith famous people its different no cap even micro celebrities fan bases deserve to know whatsup.

One issue I have with this whole situation is that its a civil case and not a criminal case. The burden of proof is much lower in civil where they only need to convince the court that he more than likely did it. Also Rich's lawsuit high-key sounds narcissistic tbh,

Know someone that went through something similar. They beat the case, but a lot of damage was done to them before and after. After because the women contacts people he knows and worked with. These situations are as simple as people on twitter like to make them out. To be honest, id argue they make it worse for the victim as well.

56:41 This isn't really something you can do. Sure, you don't want to be super open about everything, and you probably aren't going to be showing off all your evidence prior to discovery, but once the case reaches discovery, which is before you actually hit the courtroom, the other side gets to see all of your evidence. You can't spring it on them.

Even if he’s innocent the damage is already done he’s guilty in the house of public opinion. Very few people will come back to check the update that he was innocent or not. It’s messed up but unfortunately that’s how it is when it comes to these things.

@fiend1385

6 ай бұрын

Because People are so ignorant and stupid

@GreatSakuya

6 ай бұрын

We've seen this again and again. If it happens that he is proven innocent, it wont affect his channel that much. Just look at the ProJared situation or even the ZeRo situation

@ehwick8175

6 ай бұрын

If he wins they will.

@andyramirez4293

6 ай бұрын

Yea ain’t nothing changing he took a year off people tend to miss him after a break so when he comes back don’t be surprised that he has a huge following again hell he might even come back to otk I wouldn’t be surprised

@alliego2

6 ай бұрын

If he wins everyone will believe him. May take a much longer time for people who were on the girls side to forget of course just like with Johnny depp and everyone who believed the terrible rumors. Even after Depp won, none of the major companies backtracked what they said about him, however he still made movies and did concerts. If rich wins, he may not be allowed back into OTK yet or he may not come back to streaming right away if he even wants to go back. Like depp not wanting to ever go back to Disney despite winning his case which made Disney look worse than it already does. If anything, the girl would be treated like Amber heard was, wouldn’t be surprised if she tried countering with defamation over the loss like Amber tried to. However, the public already loved and treasured Johnny Depp a lot, so you may be right on the damage already being done.

From the way I see it, it’s gonna come down to who has the witnesses to back up their story. This is why it’s never good to judge someone early on cause people tried that and look how the case with Johnny depp went.

@bigbangattack97

3 ай бұрын

how do you think the johnny depp case went exactly and which johnny depp case specifically?

Unfortunately for both parties, the public will never know the actual truth and both of them will have to live will the fallout. But for both boys and girls...don't go and put yourself in a situation that can be compromised. Take someone with you unless you know for sure which way you want to take things physically and emotionally.

@OcelotTransfusion

6 ай бұрын

like a threesome?

@pablokusanagi5868

6 ай бұрын

Lmao, the girl living with the fallout ? This is going to be another case where the man is going to be fucked his entire life because of this and the w0man will get free pass and don't suffer nothing from it, just like happened with ProJared lol

@polmao

6 ай бұрын

​@@SomethingScottywell said

@SRFAA

6 ай бұрын

@@SomethingScotty He has actually been seen in pictures online since before he filed his lawsuit (his girlfriend's Instagram at Disneyland) and there were a decent amount of people glad to see him doing well in the comments. But yeah, it's unlikely that he'll ever fully recover due to the allegations even if he's correct. Kind of like ProJared who proved that he wasn't in the wrong, but majority had already moved on by then and wrote him off.

I dont get the double standard with alcohol. If i craah my car, can i just say i was drunk and therefore couldnt consent to drive? I wish people would take accountability when they drink. Saying you cant consent because of alcohol is the biggest legal loophole

so nobody learned anything from the Johny v. Amber arc huh?

@comradeweedity1648

6 ай бұрын

That both are AWFUL people yet somehow Depp is now a saint, a hero? Yeah nobody learned shit, it set us back decades actually. Decades reversed. I tuned into that trial for like ONE hour and the texts I saw from Depp were DISGUSTING yet nobody seemed to care? So very weird.

@coldchillin8382

6 ай бұрын

Or the kavannaugh and ford

@FabricateFrog

4 ай бұрын

these lying OF girls never learn

Trial by jury for defamation is rare because it is usually presided over by a judge. However, if the plaintiff elects for a jury trial, then there will be a jury trial.

My personal take from watching this is that xeno’s chat is hilarious and amazing.

Just waiting for this to be settled out of court with a public remark by both sides and monetary exchange outside public eyes.

I don't even play XIV anymore but Xeno is the only drama reactions I watch. Asmon is very biased narrator since he is involved in a lot of stuff he talks about which Xeno isnt.

@Grimnoire

6 ай бұрын

I still play XIV and he's not the only drama reactions I watch. Asmon is a very biased content creator so I watch all of them to get all the information.

The reason it's important to always hear both sides of the story is not because one person could be lying, but because there are always different perspectives on the same event.

Remember lads. No means no even if it was a yes first.

@legoxb

4 ай бұрын

what if it was always a yes and then gets edited to a no in post?

@karlklein2263

4 ай бұрын

@@legoxb that's the joke

Just an FYI, when this lawsuit thing popped up, and people asked about it in Asmon's stream, they were IMMEDIATELY banned. It is and always will be about protecting the brand over defending your friend.

@beckham3533

6 ай бұрын

First of all him answering any questions would get him pulled into the legal matter or make things worse. Second, yes a multi million dollar organization is more worth to protect from a business standpoint

@josephgregorowicz5135

6 ай бұрын

@@beckham3533 Isn’t that what I just said?

@beckham3533

6 ай бұрын

@@josephgregorowicz5135 oh mb i read it fast and thought you were criticizing his actions

@TNTspaz

6 ай бұрын

Tbf, Asmon bans literally everyone who is spamming shit. People really need to stop making it out to be a malicious act. Just makes you look like an idiot. Especially with LSF dying on the softgiving hill When he wants to talk about something he will. You aren't going to force him into it because you feel entitled to the information.

@Nyakomata

6 ай бұрын

He has nothing to do with the lawsuit and can ban for any reason, stay mad kiddo.

It’s beyond friendship between him and asmon OTK is an organization that needs to distance themselves from things like that personal feelings aren’t a factor there

@sweatyraider7241

6 ай бұрын

Yeah but kinda feels bad that the org you built up for years do not have your back if you know you are innocent

@Odins_Eyepatch

6 ай бұрын

I get that but I guess we will see what happens

If the heard vs depp trial showed us anything it's waiting for the courts verdict before passing judgement as a society is the best way to do things

@bigbangattack97

3 ай бұрын

what do you think happened with that bud? lol

@bigbangattack97

3 ай бұрын

depp had to pay $2 to her for her lawsuit against him. he won a defamation suit on her after only proving she hurt his identity lol. her winning $2m on her suit against him means what to you?

@bigbangattack97

3 ай бұрын

and either way theyre both huge pieces of shit but if someones abusing you you're gonna abuse them back in most cases. 90% of humans arent as emotionally capable as they believe themselves to be.

Wonder if they'll digout rich's twitch vods when he constantly called her his ex gf

@TajinQ

6 ай бұрын

Not to take anyone's side, but I've refered to girls with whom I had casual sexual relationships as ex gfs when talking to people. Sometimes it's just easier than just explaining the whole situation, especially if you don't know where the people you're talking to stand on that kind of thing.

"Innocent until proven guilty, not guilty until proven innocent." We would have already colonized Mars if humanity thought like that since the begining.

Not the 'to be continued.'... Madge

I've seen that exact situation with an ex f buddy. And other friends deal with the same shit. Not saying that's the case but it happens for sure.

I have no opinions as of yet. I need this to play out in court. This is very convoluted for both sides. I'm glad Rich was smart and lawyered up and see how this gonna play out.

yeah they'll most likely settle, if not, it'll be a summary judgement. jury is definitely not gonna happen

I dislike Rich, but i always thought it was bs that OTK threw out Rich but not Mizkif considering there was almost as much evidence for both cases.

@coolyeh1017

6 ай бұрын

Though Mizkif's situation was bad, apparently they ran a third party investigation by hiring one the best law firms in Texas which found no wrong doing. Mizkif's situation is also very gray because of all the drama, unreliable witnesses, agendas from the victim's supposed supporters (XQC and Train wanted to drag Pokimane and Hassan into the drama), and that the actual perpetrator of sexual assault was thrown under the bus faster than you can say lawsuit. Rich outright admitted everything to Asmon and OTK and declined to fight the accusations. But kicking Rich out of his ownership share, if Rich's story is true, is wrong without the correct legal mechanisms (especially in Texas) which Rich is alleging did not happen.

@Daecoth

6 ай бұрын

@@coolyeh1017 Xeems explaining the OTK reaction is spot on. And the way all of OTK worded it by stating "we have requested Rich to resign" is very exact, unlike what Fumimation did with their statement regarding Vic's situation. Rich filing the suit after a year can probably be attributed to his lawyer finding enough evidence to file. No allegation should be overlooked, but with the ammount of false allegations in the news being exposed like Matt Araiza, Brian Banks, Johhny Depp, Nikki Yovino, Trevor Bauer, and Elenore Williams, there needs to be a HUGE overhaul on how these kinds of cases are handled in both courts of law and law enforcement.

@guaripolo1808

6 ай бұрын

The Mizkif situation at the start was seroius as fuck. Then Mitch happens, XQC is there doing things and Trains being schizophrenic.

@xClyptox

6 ай бұрын

Not comparable. Not directly involved, doesnt have multiple people coming out the woodwork. lolwut. Not to even mention multiple people involved who couldnt get their story straight or caught in lies.

@MeldinX2

6 ай бұрын

It's diffrent since Miz did not do it personally. While Rich was involved himself.

"How do people even get the idea you can benefit from false allegations?!" Uh my brother in Christ, she's suing him for a metric boatload of cash, are people just braindead nowadays? False allegations have been made for way less.

Damn, Son gonna watch this and go "Why Dad 😢?"

Without taking either side, the only thing i found weird about her side was mentioning alcohol and inability to give consent. She said in the twit-longer that she said no to the sexual advances, but then the alcohol part mentions that she was unable to give consent? If she said no, isn't that showing an ability to give consent (and that she did NOT give it)? I don't know... to me that seems weird, like a conflict between the twit-longer and the court document. Why wouldn't the document just say that she refused consent? Maybe it's a legal thing which is why it doesn't make sense to me, but it just struck me as weird.

Serious topic, everyone listening close, and then that freaking slowed-down, pitch altered Yoda death scream at 13:54 I'M GONE

Big respect for you keeping an open mind, reserving your opinion until you heard more information, and respecting that claim documents, and the allegations therein, are not equivalent to evidence. People tend to forget, in western society A Judge determines if a person is guilty, not John Q Strimmer.

I never looked into the drama to check what actually happened or who was lying. But holy shit

The OF thing is quite simple to explain. In court it’s very common to strike at the morals of the other party. To show them in a bad light. If this would be a trial by jury, many members of it might be mid to even older age folks. If one side would be successful to paint the other as a person of “loose morals” it would definitely be to their benefit.

Theres so much foreahadowing of xeno's defamation case in this video lol

not only that Xenos is a likeable content creator. His approach and perceptions in stuff like these are all 100% agreeable for a normal human being. It's crazy how fucked up the world is when people resort to Twitter rather than / before filing a lawsuit. I hope justice is served to the right people

I have no opinion on this internet tier shit, but people saying they trust the accuser because they trust Asmongolds judgement is both hilarious and depressing. People truly cannot think on their own.

@EmpyreanDreamer

6 ай бұрын

Asmons judgement is irrelevant. His body language when talking about it is far more significant as well as how quick and severe the action taken was compared to mizkif and also the fact that he made it crystal clear he had more info than was public and the action they took was based on that. That is a lot of red flags to make your own mind up on the matter and thats before you even look into it personally.

@Deminese2

6 ай бұрын

Body language is bullshit. people all act differently. Asmon is also a primary owner of OTK what he cares about is his business not rich.@@EmpyreanDreamer

@miatomi

6 ай бұрын

KZread has truly poisoned a generation into believing that you can discern the truth from a persons body language, or even a simplistic and one sided review of their actions. That’s not the way it works.

@EmpyreanDreamer

6 ай бұрын

@@Deminese2 True he acted mainly in business sense and rightfully so, but it doesn't change that it was an entirely different action, much faster pacing and entirely different tone that was used compared to the mizkif stuff. If you think there's nothing to interpret from that you're wrong. Just like yes it is business but that doesn't mean them being close friends is irrelevant, its not.

@miatomi

6 ай бұрын

Source: absolutely nothing

Its hard because I firmly believe that we should support victims and make it easier for victims to speak up because the reason actual problems don't get reported is often because of public harassment and shame being a common result for victims who speak up --- all that being said, I've also had to sit by and watch my own husband be youtube slandered by claims of unsolicited d*ck pics despite me literally being there and seeing for myself the "victims" participating in a consensual and mutual exchange. we SHOULD be able to make it a safe environment for victims to speak up and be believed, but the problem is that it gets harder and harder to do that when vindictive assholes (of both genders) throw around severe accusations because they're feeling pissy about some grudge they've developed against the person.

Nothing like proving you have been assaulted when you go to the social media instead of the police. To this day, she has yet to go to the police. Before anyone comes after me, yes, I am a woman and sick of this bull shit 'believe all women' with no evidence.

Is HenryResilient forgetting that in the US service of a subpeona requires the served party to testify? If the lawyers on either side of this serve papers, people *WILL* be required to testify.

After the whole Depp/Heard debacle, people should know that relationship-related stuff is never as simple as it seems. The guys are almost always expected to be the aggressors and only to blame, so it's important for them to get help asap and allow the judge and courts to mediate, etc. Usually both parties are at fault to some extent (character failings or whatever), but it feels like the guys are often slammed pretty hard at first. It takes a while to sort out the falsehoods from the truth... and we may never know the truth of the situation... and perhaps it isn't our place to know anyways? But I won't lie. I'm curious AF.

@comradeweedity1648

6 ай бұрын

Yeah now there's a great example. A case where Amber was on full blast by the internet and now everyone ignores the terrible things Depp did, because let's be real, he's a garbage as well. Now everyone worships Depp as some saint, but he's not. Both were terrible people, but since Depp won, now all women are liars. Every victim is now an "accuser" and every victim needs mass amounts of evidence to dare stand up to a man, which also makes victims not want to come out. Terrible all around.

this is why i never said he was guilty need the results 1st all these freinds that did not have his back is sad

has xeno studied law or just read up on the stuff as a public streamer figure?

"She has nothing to gain". canceling him is not a gain for her in anyway. Money? she knows the chances of getting anything is .01% and she will most likely be out of money hiring a lawyer and filing fees etc. This is about principle

I hope he's innocent. Not because I care about HIM, I never watched him. But rather because I'd rather someone be a liar than a victim of what she allegedly went through.

@Elidan1012

5 ай бұрын

You would rather have his life ruined than hers?

@ojon12389

5 ай бұрын

On the other side of the coin, If they are the liars, they should be severely punished, right? IF Rich is innocent, he had his life near ruined because of false accusations.

i feel like he's going out of his way to say axe isntead of ask, cause he doesnt say axe everytime

oh shit not the sequal bait lol, cant wait for more baldy looping xxf

I found this video by watching an Asmongold video and your video was on his recommended page in the video "Most hated game" when he was browsing youtube and the title caught my eye.

There are no sketchy hotels in chinatown lol

21:04 When Charlie and Asmon were mentioning that "There's nothing to gain" They were talking about the fans lashing out against rich AND the woman. Not the woman who's 'MeToo'ing' this guy.

I don't know why this guy censored as much as he did... those court documents are publically available to anyone.

@atelierbagur3831

6 ай бұрын

To prevent from information being misused easily. Yeah its made public but not everyone is going to take ths time and effort to look into it themselves. The censoring makes sense

Huh, interesting. Despite me reading her side and believing rich would do something like that, his side of the story makes more sense. Why would he try to knock her up out of anger if he didn't want to be in a committed relationship? And them having an argument about a long term relationship makes a lot of sense as to why he would tell her "You need to leave". Then also ask later "You okay". Because otherwise, who the fuck would assault someone and ask "You okay" afterwards? Of course she wouldn't be okay if he did it out of malice. She has more reason to bring him down than he has a reason to assault her. On one hand it's saying he wanted to assault her for a fetish. On the other hand, she wanted to ruin him for not being with her. Somehow, it feels like the truth is somewhere down the middle. It still feels like either side is hiding something said to make the other look worse. That other allegation with friend's boyfriend turned husband is also interesting. You would think that a friend's boyfriend, who did something like that, wouldn't end up becoming a husband from something done that was that awful.

Lol did he really cut the part with the OTK ? that the best part of the video lmao they probably trick Rich to give up everything to kick him from OTK that so funny, he is afraid of the drama ?

A lot of axing in this video, I would be worried

The thing some of the blame isnt on the content creators, its with the person that created that video and took very specific clips of their response to make their video sound cohesive. Overall its nothing you can really do because ppl take small clips as someone's entire position just like how Xeno's took the clips cut by HenryResilient at face value without looking to see what those streamers said in their entirety.

these people in this video in the grand scheme of things of how the world is going to be shaped lol.

People tends to forget a phrase called "Innocence until proven guilty." And seriously bros, stop doing this open relationship shit man, girl can ruin your life by any second, and you loose everything. Find a girl, and be commited, both way.

@Cybertech134

6 ай бұрын

Or don't find a girl and be happy avoiding all this nonsense.

@lovelygargoyle5248

6 ай бұрын

OOOOOR: Don't date at all. Don't marry. It's just a weird social lottery, you're win big, until you reach a point when you lose it all.

@mukakruda8474

6 ай бұрын

Innocent until proven guilty Unless it's a SA allegation, guilty until proven innocent, and even if you're proven innocent your life is over It's so stupid, a company I used to work at had a female file a SA claim to HR about a guy, and he was fired on the spot before the investigation. After the investigation was done, surprise surprise, bitch just didn't like the guy and wanted to get him fired. The company did come back and apologize and offer him his job back, but that shit's there forever, even though it was a lie, he was fired for SA 😮‍💨 And it's rare for the woman who made up the stories to get attacked and screwed over the way the guy does, so we're just encouraging it to continue

@Grimnoire

6 ай бұрын

That doesn't exist on the internet

@ValkyrissaGaming

6 ай бұрын

The outraged mob probably doesn't care about such things :D

That’s what you get for getting carried in ucob :smadge:

Can we get a 100k sub hair reveal?

@Grimnoire

6 ай бұрын

Looking forward to this

Something is fishy for sure. Wonder what the security cameras show.

Is it me or does Xeno beard seems bigger in this video ?

When I heard about him again I thought something like this could happen.

The reaction of Asmongold is understandable since how much he gave shit to blizzard for sexual misconduct allegations. Remember that it the allegations were not proved before a judge or a jury but settled on by both parties, and know that a settlment is not an admission of guilt very far from it, people who infur guilt from settling forget that the accusing party accepting payment for cancelling the legal proceeding should not reflect very well on their desire to see justice done. It would be quite hypocritical for asmon to defend Rich for being mob-justiced while having so vehemently participated in the mob-justice against Blizzard.

@EntertheFray1

6 ай бұрын

Nah, it's not understandable. It's supposed to be his friend. He threw him under the bus during a time of need. Scummy thing to do.

@orb8540

6 ай бұрын

@@EntertheFray1 My point is that it would have been hypocritical, not that it's not a scummy move.

@EntertheFray1

6 ай бұрын

@@orb8540 Your main point sounded like you are rationalizing/justifying of what he did, which shouldn't be rationalized. Nor do I even agree it would be hypocritical. Let's contrast the two scenarios here and why it's a bad comparison. You are comparing a large professional run corporation where several employees are forced to work together and the SA that went on in that professional setting, compared to a separate allegation concerning two people that had nothing to do with the company who were privately involved with each other where one made a twitlonger accusing his friend of SA. They are not remotely similar. I don't think Rich was employed to screw Lexi, nor did they work together under OTK, nor was OTK itself involved. Entirely different contexts.

@orb8540

6 ай бұрын

@@EntertheFray1 I think you are overreading my post a bit because I don't recognize my point in your message. I am saying that Asmongold as an OTK founder who was very critical of Blizzard for not taking immediate actions for unproven allegations could not afford to let Rich accusation slide or be supportive without losing the moral highground regarding sexual misconduct allegations. OTK is a large professionally run corporation, its not the size of Blizzard but it is a big media company with millions of dollars on the line, Asmongold and the OTK company line has been pretty much standard regarding sexual misconduct allegations. Cut ties with the accused before it damages the image of the company and move on. Asmongold couldn't have reasonably been supportive or calling for a legal proceeding before taking action without seriously compromising OTK and his image.

@EntertheFray1

6 ай бұрын

@@orb8540 Buddy you are comparing around 20 twitch streamers that get paid for raunchy chat and gaming talk/content to a large corporation that employs thousands of people who work office jobs and make games that several millions play worldwide. It's a bad comparison because it doesn't take into account the nuance in differences here. They need buildings and infrastructure for people to work at, which means people are forced to work together which is were a lot of the SA happened. It is obviously Blizzards responsibility when their employees are facing SA trying to do their job, which is the issue. This is a scenario involving an OTK member regarding his own private life and personal circumstances with a relationship with a girl he was casually seeing who wanted to turn it into a LTR. They are not remotely the same context. No, people should not be fired based on allegations. Innocent until proven guilty. If you can't understand the distinction or why it matters, I'll break it down. A colleague who works in an office building going around committing SA needs to be suspended, because they are a potential issue for the other workers there. So for the consideration of all other workers, that person needs to be suspended pending investigation. Lexi isn't a part of OTK. This was a private situation regarding. It had nothing to do with OTK. Essentially, Asmongold threw him under the bus. No, it's not understandable why he did so. The things he said concerning rich basically implied he was guilty. For a guy trying to sell his persona as just the average normal guy, most normal guys don't throw their friends under the bus for money or distance themselves in a friends time of need. They were supposed to be friends, not work buddies. That makes him look bad, frankly.

It shouldn't matter what she "should" have expected or not when going over to his place. She mentioned several times she didn't want anything sexual happening. It shouldn't matter what their previous relationship was. Spousal rape is also a thing; so obviously, having regular sex with a person doesn't mean rape isn't possible. If at any time one of the party doesn't want to keep going, their wish should be respected. No means no. Period.

The person who claimed that only 1% of accusations are false, as well a anyone who believes them, are full of crap. When it comes to these cases, it is very hard to prove one way or another, but the COURT tends to err on the side of caution.

How people reacted to Rich when he was accused is exactly how male soldiers in the military are treated. The military only cares about public perception so they immediately treat the male soldier as a criminal. This is why male soldiers especially guys in leadership positions, want nothing to do with being alone in a room with female soldiers. They actively request another male leader or a female leader they trust to be in the same room with female soldiers. I have seen more than a few male soldiers accused of things. And it turned out the guy didn't do anything. But by that point all the trust in that male soldier is already shit canned. Even if your proven innocent. You will always be surrounded by other peoples doubts no matter the facts. It's destroyed many careers and marriages. All because the military would rather save face than listen to both sides and take action accordingly.

Rich the SKYFALLEN.

@YungGokuOver

6 ай бұрын

😂

This seems like ProJared all over again

Great coverage but you cut out some of the best parts. Jane Doe 1 and 2 videos are up on my channel.

@TetsuShirenai

6 ай бұрын

I think he racted to Jane Doe 1 already, saw it on stream, not sure about Jane Doe 2 though, I haven't kept up with his streams since.

@HenryResilient

6 ай бұрын

@@TetsuShirenai Jane doe 2 just dropped

@XenosysVex

6 ай бұрын

I'll check out Jane doe 2! 😮

Bruh, hers story did not added up completely. It's not like I am siding with Rich, but clearly something was not clarified or said enough. I wonder how this story ends. However, so far it seems that Rich will be only victim here.

I automatically distrust people that use the word gaslighting. gut instinct

Are you Phoenix Wright my dude?

Why did they mark out the word "rape"? I'm sure it can be triggering but it's one of the primary topics of this discussion. Also marking it out and then verbally saying it aloud seems contradicting. The word itself is not meant to be malicious but to describe an act, however heinous it may be. There's a lot more to focus on here than just that, but it really stuck on me. Why do things have to be censored, and if they do why is it only half-way done?

She also "had to stay in a dodgy place " because she couldnt find anywhere on such short notice, which tells me she had all intentions to stay at his place in the first place

@bigbangattack97

3 ай бұрын

go read the texts bub lol "i dont want to go to your place" "theres a community movie going on" "if you come in ill respect your boundaries" -immediately starts beating off idk dude doesnt sound too outlandish or...uncommon. women get r worded a lot bud. be better.

i can see asmon cutting him off he claims he does it all the time

xeems once again having the best takes on these situations

Not all the way through the video, but I think Xeno is right besides the fact that he labeled all the creators that Henry showed as believers, but Henry showed not even a 10 second clip of each. Destiny, for example, never condemned Rich, he just said the evidence that he had viewed was pretty compelling after going over everything that was released and discussing it

59:00 that wasn't his point at all tho. Dramas usually just refer to internet petty issues and not legal discourse

Shoutout to mymicart for getting Ruan mei 23:28 🎉🎉🎉🎉

People never lie on the internet man. Thats what everyone says!

Theory: Asmon/OTK cut off Rich asap so he could sue for damages, and take him back if he gets vindicated in court while protecting the company.

@varezhka1320

Ай бұрын

That's an interesting theory, I hope this is true, because so far it more sounds like OTK/Tips wanted Rich's position of CEO to take over and ghost him. Cause why would he say in his lawsuit: "The COO said the tweet doesn't get any traction, don't worry about it"

USA is kinda weird. You can actually file a lawsuit against someone for defamation based on another on-going lawsuit's claims ? Like you can sue someone for accusations you're currently being investigated on ? I don't really give a shit about the whole drama/lawsuit, but this part sounds so wrong to me. When another lawsuit is involved, you should only be able to sue someone for defamation after you're proven innocent.

I've never seen this xeno dude or any of his content but all of his takes are based and correct, subscribed.

Getting canned for allegations is complete BS. A company shouldn’t do that. Maybe wait to see evidence or a conviction perhaps? 😂

Just today i was wondering what happened to this dude 😮

Rich’s lawsuit reads like it was written by a 14yr old

@Brandonweifu

11 күн бұрын

Did you kean the lawsuit against rich? Cause that one sounded more a sneaky child accusing someone of something bad but it doesnt sound correct at all

What is weard to me is that she is at a hotell, she could just walk out, there was personel at a call of a button. No saying. NO or pushing back, just that she had sex with him. Where was the push back before the act, i mean she wasnt passed out or not at her senses. I mean getting feeling of guilt after is a thing, but there is no really stop before the act. It sounds consentual until after the fact they had sex. She said NO 100 times but still follow him and got naked in the bed 🤔 but i know nothing.

What did Asmon know and when? We need to find this out. I’m asking questions (last word is Randy Marsh voice).

The thing that amazes me is that when you are making a defamation argument towards a man, all you need is 12 pages. But a counter defamation allegation is what, 30 plus pages long? The cost of defending yourself (no matter the guilt) is ridiculous.

@Thundawich

6 ай бұрын

Well, that would mostly stem from the fact that initial lawsuits don't need a whole lot of paperwork. Most of the stuff gets presented throughout the case under the moderation of the judge, not initially. The page disparity is coming from the fact that the counter case is also partly a response to the initial filing, its not its own separate thing. (Also there is no defamation argument being made towards a man in this instance, its a sexual assault thing)

@yukilu602

6 ай бұрын

@@Thundawich^ this, well put together

You'd think after the whole JD vs AH people would wait for all the info

@matsu9999

6 ай бұрын

Not in this day and age, you should think people are better, but the "innocent until proven guilty" is long gone. Especially with twitter etc the witch-hunt rolls out, to destroys careers /lives the second there is some hear say

@Grimnoire

6 ай бұрын

Never, guilty till proven innocent

Mia Malkova? Rich is a brave dude.

When talking about believing victims of SA, it comes from a place where women and girls were historically not believed and potentially berated for even reporting an assault. IMO believing women is more that we shouldn't just dismiss their case automatically. Some radfems may think differently, but the history of "believe all women" stems from historical mistreatment and judgement.

@acujicky

6 ай бұрын

I also disagree with xeno that Alexis has nothing to lose. There are many para social Andy's out there who are willing to protect their assumed relationship with the streamer. She could easily be sent death threats, get doxxed/swatted, or worse.

@Kanaleah

6 ай бұрын

​@@andreamarques8328You don't need to prove anything in the kind of case she's pursuing. That's not how the court system works, because it's not a criminal court. She just needs to convince a jury she's more believable than he is. The burden of proof in civil court, even in jury trials, is much lower than in criminal trials. A woman willing to lie about this can be just as confident she can convince a jury with her own words alone, and there's a reasonable chance she can.

@esra013

6 ай бұрын

​@@ho-sette Look man I think you are pretty naive if you think people would not do something bad if there's nothing to gain from it. If people do work like that then please explain to me how Amber Heard vs Johnny Depp false allegation could ever happen. People are petty and we derive some amount of joy or relief from seeing someone we hate suffer. And quite frankly sexual allegations are very easy to fake since its usually its a 2 person activity and a legal consensual sex can become a non-consensual on the next day depending on either party's mood.

@Grimnoire

6 ай бұрын

​@@acujickymany para social Andy's aren't shit when she's getting 50k a week on OF

@MeldinX2

6 ай бұрын

It's fine to take it seriously. And i don't think you should say that the victim is lying. But this does not mean that you should attack the accused without evidence. Things like this should not take place on Twitter or social media it should take place in court. There they will decide if the person is guilty or not.

Guilty or not I don't get how people celebrate(d) this creepy weirdo. He was a good shout caster. And that was it.