"Knock on wood for Cyberpunk" Funny how that aged.

@Matas05

2 жыл бұрын

He said “I think that’s wood.” 😩 Cyberpunk’s failure was assured at that moment.

@absoluteschmuck

2 жыл бұрын

Aged like fine milk.

@Nolaris3

2 жыл бұрын

It's official: Luke Stephens ruined Cyberpunk

@simonbrown2789

2 жыл бұрын

It wasn’t wood

@monk3ynutz42

2 жыл бұрын

hahah 1 year after release and the game still sucks

I can’t believe people skip the epilogue. I was so utterly engrossed by the story that I finished the epilogue in two afternoons. Seriously, I’ve never spent so much time on a game in such a short time span. This is the only video game that has every truly pulled me into a game world.

@jonbaxter2254

5 жыл бұрын

Also bang for your buck. An epilogue longer than most full games lol

@wokkus5610

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, good point

@imthegreatest12345

5 жыл бұрын

The death of Arthur hit me so hard that when the epilogue started, i stopped playing the game for 1 week. i needed a break..

@wokkus5610

5 жыл бұрын

James Doakes understandable

@sawyerweathers8713

5 жыл бұрын

- musklz - but have you played The Witcher 3?

For me without a doubt one of the best missions was building the house with Charles and uncle. That mission put a smile on my face. It was such a simple mission but was completely different than any other mission I’ve ever played. Also that music is still stuck in my head months after playing.

@burnhitsforlove3317

5 жыл бұрын

You mean that cutscene?

@SirDankleberry

4 жыл бұрын

@@burnhitsforlove3317 Is it counted as a cutscene if you can interact with it?

@burnhitsforlove3317

4 жыл бұрын

@@SirDankleberry yea, I'd say chopping wood or doing chores are just as well cutscenes.

@-Twotonepony-

3 жыл бұрын

@@burnhitsforlove3317 I mean... It's still gameplay. I don't know. I don't count anything that utilizes the in game character model to be a cutscene.

@vortektor

3 жыл бұрын

Stuck in my head for years

RDR2 was the first game ever to make me feel every emotion under the sun. But the two that stuck with me were. -Feeling complete peacefulness when going fishing with Hosea and Dutch -The complete despair and hopelessness of knowing that this was it for Arthur on his last ride to camp. I fucking cried like, not just a tear but sobbing, man. By the time it happened I was so connected with Arthur that it felt like a piece of me was dying. The writers did a great job with this game, and if Rockstar is planning on RDR3 they have A LOT to live up to, even more than they had with RDR.

@GMak81

3 жыл бұрын

Completely agree. Losing Arthur, and knowing for hours before hand that it would happen, was incredibly sad. His final moments made me cry. So many emotions experienced in this game.

@Xivinux

3 жыл бұрын

I didnt make me cry but the end is very powerful. The fishing with dutch and hosea was tremendous The only game ever to bring a tear to my eye was Lufia 2😅

@mr.mysteriousyt6118

3 жыл бұрын

I wish rdr3 happens in my lifetime

@recondogohome360

3 жыл бұрын

@@mr.mysteriousyt6118 it will, or.... something even better.

@Quack_attack_

2 жыл бұрын

When i told 2 of my little brothers that i had choked up and was teary eyed playing rdr2 they kinda laughed and didnt get it and i told em most people who played up felt likei did and if you didnt you def did not play rdr2 the way it was ment to be played or experienced may be a better word for it than just "played" lol

I found whale bones in new Austin as John he drew it down and wrote "whales in the desserts, another thing I don't understand"

@ianmcdonald3053

3 жыл бұрын

Plenty of whales had been found in deserts 🏜. Stuck there after the Noah flood!

@finalbreath15

3 жыл бұрын

@@ianmcdonald3053 No its 🐋 🐳🐋 in 🍨🥧🎂🍮🧁

@ianmcdonald3053

3 жыл бұрын

@@jimbo5107 call it what you want but when around 80 different cultures from around the the world all speak of the world flooding, so....

@calesmith7342

3 жыл бұрын

Many deserts were oceans in the past... or at least underwater. They find marine animal fossils/ skeletons in many deserts, even here in the US. Hints the whale bones in the game, but most prolly knew that.

@lennarthumpf8031

3 жыл бұрын

@@ianmcdonald3053 goddamn you ultra Christians aren't just a myth right? Like in the USA some people really take the Bible as unconditional truth? Reading this stuff as a European really makes me question how anybody would be premature enough to question obvious scientific facts

I didn't realize there was anyone who didn't complete the epilogue.

@led_tower

5 жыл бұрын

@The Mind Is A Powerful Thing But how can you leave a game unfinished? Any game? I don't get it. Plus, you get to see how Arthur's death inspired John to keep going, get married, get a life and such.

@svaldez1829

5 жыл бұрын

@The Mind Is A Powerful Thing someone didn't play red dead 1...

@zacshelton539

4 жыл бұрын

ByGuardian ZX I played red dead 1 and it’s honestly not as good a red dead 2 try to go back and play it again. I just lost interest.

@jasonshaneyfelt1039

4 жыл бұрын

@Will G1986 Dude. Play the epilogue.

@Arttu_Palva-aho

4 жыл бұрын

Jason Shaneyfelt Prolly he played it already but its hes lost if did not👍

Interesting point about Dutch's story. A few weeks ago I actually got to meet Benjamin Byron Davis (super nice and friendly guy!), the voice actor for Dutch, and I asked him about the whole Tahiti plan and if it was truly feasible, and he told me it wasn't. Dutch never actually planned to escape to Tahiti, or to anywhere. It was always a goal for the OTHERS, for the rest of the gang, to keep them going and working and to prevent the gang from falling apart. Just thought I'd tip in you're right on the nose, Dutch himself told me so :) (i also got to meet Roger Clark, voice actor of Arthur. so much fun lol)

@DogInatutu

4 жыл бұрын

Benjamin seems like a giant teddy bear lol. But he isn't just a voice actor, he does the motion capture too, which is all the movement and such.

@mynkel4641

4 жыл бұрын

@@DogInatutu please listen to his voice

@trafficcone7344

4 жыл бұрын

@WildHogKing if you ever meet the voice actor for uncle, please ask how he survives lumbago

@kurtcobain5466

3 жыл бұрын

Did Roger Clark say anything interesting?

@Edax_Royeaux

3 жыл бұрын

I could see Dutch trying to get his gang to Tahiti, but I cannot see Dutch growing mangos, he's a revolutionary conman who would clash with the local French authorities of Tahiti unless he himself got out of there or found a different cause.

the only risk rockstar is taking is not giving us any god damn DLC

@genericboi4595

5 жыл бұрын

Oh it's a fellow Boi.

@walkmanboi465

5 жыл бұрын

@@genericboi4595 is this a reunion

@genericboi4595

5 жыл бұрын

@@walkmanboi465 It is if you want it to be

@walkmanboi465

5 жыл бұрын

@@genericboi4595 it is and I'm loving every minute of it

@genericboi4595

5 жыл бұрын

@@incognito9221 if you are a Boi you'd understand

As a fellow Coloradan, support this man. Cost of living here is stupidly high.

@wokkus5610

5 жыл бұрын

As a Californian, I understand

@slimeyslim

5 жыл бұрын

The Bay Area presses F

@Benthesniperof8

5 жыл бұрын

*Styxhexenhammer666 groans in Vermont*

@michelle.pearl.

5 жыл бұрын

As another fellow Coloradoan, I agree and weep for us

@WVLF_SPANKY

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah Denver sucks...i can't wait to leave

“I have a plan, you just have to trust me and have some goddamn faith” is like “all I did was for my family” from Walter White in Breaking Bad. Both extremely smart and intelligent hypocrites who manipulate the rest around them to fullfill their egoes

@antthomas7916

4 жыл бұрын

I agree, nice comparison!! The only difference is that Walt at lease admitted at the end that him saying that was all bullshit. Dutch never dropped the act. He stood by that excuse until the day he died.

@antthomas7916

4 жыл бұрын

Btw, nice avatar. Ciri is the shit haha

@baldingsan457

4 жыл бұрын

Ant Thomas Dutch always has a plan

@quarreneverett4767

4 жыл бұрын

Well walt was doing it for cancer solutions and disilusions

@mr.drowzeetsnpclanleader2754

3 жыл бұрын

Michael from gta as well.

Cyberpunk, one of the most hyped games ever failed to deliver on impossible promises. Same time as its launch, RD2’s sales rocketed and people’s impossible standards were met. That is this game’s legacy: maybe not surpassing standards, but meeting the impossible.

@vijaykryesItsMe

3 жыл бұрын

Wasn't Red dead released 2 years before cyberpunk?

@thecheck968

3 жыл бұрын

@@vijaykryesItsMe Yeah, but we all have 2020 games that definitely did not come out in 2020. Crazy long year. Besides, red dead is stupidly immersive and detailed, what I was hoping Cyberpunk would actually be.

@zelestial1681

2 жыл бұрын

It did what 99.9% of games cant do nowadays : made you feel. Let you escape into a world thats believable.

This game is a masterpiece. Aurthur Morgan is one of the best protagonists ever.

@lepsikilla6998

2 жыл бұрын

Author is the greatest gaming protagonist ever PERIOD…one of the greatest protagonist in movies, tv, books ect

I’ve also played through this game twice, and I think it is Rockstar’s greatest work. A lot of people tell me that they think this game is too slow, but I think that the slow pace encourages emersion

@slimeyslim

5 жыл бұрын

emersion........ smh.

@quarreneverett4767

4 жыл бұрын

I dont need to be "encouraged" you can be immersed in atmosphere. Take a look at unreal. Unreal gold and play the first 3 hours and tell me what you think mate,

@karenamyx2205

2 жыл бұрын

@@quarreneverett4767 but... pacing plays into atmosphere. Maybe you're just smooth brained?

@quarreneverett4767

2 жыл бұрын

@@karenamyx2205 thanks Karen lol

@GageReed

10 ай бұрын

​​@Koticinyourhead Good ole' emersion. Yeah, it's important, but, personally, I value immersion just a tad bit more than emersion in my video games. I know I'm probably in the minority; Call me crazy if you want!

That wasn't wood...

@thelivingdead1728

3 жыл бұрын

Wow, didn't expect you here.

@cow4741

3 жыл бұрын

Should be fine

@unijack_black6677

3 жыл бұрын

LMAO that’s exactly what I was thinking when he said that

I will agree with most people, Rockstar NEEDS to make a new mission design. The story telling in this was fantastic, I was so taken into the world I would lose track of time in the real world. Hunting, Bounties (there needed to be more), finding fossils, etc. BUT mission design needs to be changed, hard part is Rockstar makes MONEY from their games, why change what works for them

@guitarman0365

5 жыл бұрын

what in your opinion is wrong with the mission design? do you mean like how it kind of restricts freedom within a mission itself? Clearly you said the story telling is fantastic but the story comes from the missions so what do you refer too specifically when saying it needs changing?

@SaberRexZealot

5 жыл бұрын

guitarman0365 More options and depth to missions in general, no forced walking, no immediate mission fails for deviating slightly from the path. All of these things are pretty obvious fixes.

@PatrickBarnes86

5 жыл бұрын

I feel that I wish the missions gave you multiple ways to do things (Metal Gear Solid 5 for example). Versus the whole, follow Dutch, shoot this guy, run up these stairs, shoot that guy. The LENNY mission was the perfect mission in this game in my opinion. It was 100% different than what I have ever thought it would be.

@SaberRexZealot

5 жыл бұрын

nikos 90 They certainly do, but most are also scripted and punish you for not thinking outside of the box. For a game that encourages exploration and combat of player’s accord in the open world the game sorely lacks that sense of freedom within its missions. As said in this thread, MGS5 does this incredibly well and feels fun to play because of it. RDR2 manages to do everything else so well but it needed that extra bit of polish in its gameplay and player agency to be a proper game masterpiece.

@SaberRexZealot

5 жыл бұрын

nikos 90 nor did it take mine. I fucking loved the game dude, doesn’t make it immune to criticism, or that a lot of its features feel outmoded by other games over the last 9 years since the first game.

1:22:00 that quest with the oil for the train, you can actually miss this quest by progressing other parts of the heist and John tells you he had to do it because you took too long

@Fratzu

5 жыл бұрын

yeah, that happened to me in my 3rd playthrough :D

@thefreshprincer5587

4 жыл бұрын

"You never got that oil tanker did you?"

@cow4741

3 жыл бұрын

For something serious

@davidstinger1134

2 жыл бұрын

And thank god, getting that oil is a pain in the ass.

@karenamyx2205

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidstinger1134 I'm on my 3rd playthrough, and I always thought the oil was a pain too, because you gotta break into that guarded oil buisness, right? But this time, a 2nd oil cart was parked in the back of valentine. With just one guy. Gave him a head bonk and rode off easy peasy. Never saw that before.

Rdr2 is easily the greatest game I have ever played. Never before I felt so immersed in a game's world and its characters ever before. The graphics, the atmosphere, the sound design, the characters, the story telling, the voice acting, the world building etc are unlike anything I have ever seen in a game. Rockstar has raised the bar very high for how open worlds should be made. Yes game's not perfect but no game ever is. It has some problems but they don't matter a lot when you compare them to the amount of other amazing things that this game has.

@rajamb732

5 жыл бұрын

You are not alone my friend

@LauritzenLucas

5 жыл бұрын

It took me a month and a half to finish it because of how much there was to do, and i'm not talking about the side stuff, but how much depth everything had.

@raensaeck

5 жыл бұрын

I still havent finished it. Gameplay is so fucking booring. SOOO BOOOORING. And thats coming from someone who loved the first game. I cant believe why they had to make the controls even clunkier, and everything take 10 times longer. So stupid. @@LauritzenLucas

@UmerFarooq-db5gu

5 жыл бұрын

@@raensaeck that is the magic of Rdr2. Other devs are too afraid to leave players on their own in emptiness and making everything slow. I really love because the game is slow paced bcuz it really allows you to invest yourselves in the world and its characters.

@sablemae8853

5 жыл бұрын

The lack of freedom in main missions compared to the open world is the biggest flaw in the game. You go from doing whatever u want and being creative in the open world to do exactly as your told in main missions. I understand why they did it but it sucks they couldn't give us a little more freedom

There was a scene in the prologue where I heard Dutch being decent when talking to Hosea. He mentioned about sending someone to bury Sadie's husband and trying to decide on who to send.

I loved everything about the game except for the mission design. Rockstars Missions feel so outdated. drive/ride miles and miles to a location, stuff goes bad, shoot 100 people, rinse and repeat.

@Deeplycloseted435

5 жыл бұрын

React Much? Yes, and it was SO shockingly bothersome because the rest of the game was so well done. Literally, ZERO opportunity for attacking a mission in a different way, no flexibility, no improvisation whatsoever. Your only choices were which weapon? Dynamite? Fire bottles? Knife throwing? It really gave me no desire to replay any missions. I suppose when the game was beginning development, this style was more acceptable, but its really not anymore. The game holds your hand at all times. Go here, now go there, now approach this person, now shoot everyone, now escape. Its not terrible, just disappointing. The bar was set so high with voice acting, story, facial animations, world building, random encounters, music, audio design, etc.....the gunplay and mission design simply didn’t stack up to the standards set elsewhere in the game.

@sablemae8853

5 жыл бұрын

I would've like more freedom,more variety,less enemies that were more difficult instead of tons of enemies. The game is going for realism until the main missions. By the end of the game you've killed more people than lived in these towns.

@nate1735

5 жыл бұрын

I think the missions ar great, the problem is the slow controls

@sablemae8853

5 жыл бұрын

@@nate1735 there's no freedom in how u do these missions. It's a complete contradiction in the rest of the game. Are they good? Yes but they're severely restrictive

@nate1735

5 жыл бұрын

@@sablemae8853 Yeah i agreed

you never talked about Arthur's dead wife and son. They are mentioned twice in the story.

@RedBananas

5 жыл бұрын

Therriffic Gamer when was the first time??

@AdityaSathya

5 жыл бұрын

@@RedBananas One was with Sister Calderon and the second was with Rains Fall or vice versa depending on the order you do the missions.

@clippers7909

5 жыл бұрын

Not his wife, it was a waitress named Eliza who he got pregnant when she was 19. And he says how he would stop by for a few days, every few months. It was his son but Arthur and Eliza weren't married or in an intimate relationship.

@mrsspiritwolf

5 жыл бұрын

arthur was never married

@SledgeMain69

5 жыл бұрын

I feel like this is always overlooked and never see anyone acknowledge it.

I love this game. The one thing that I wish was different was honor effecting missions. Or the lack of. Arthur can go around the open world murdering, robbing and being an overall menace. But then he'll get mad at others for doing the same things. Part of me wishes that low honor Arthur had different cutscenes from high honor Arthur. I believe that high honor Arthur is the canon version, since most of the cutscene characterization of Arthur points to him being honorable.

@John-996

4 жыл бұрын

when dutch chokes the old lady he says maybe we have all gone rotten if you have low honour so it does have an impact.

@interestingperson7205

7 ай бұрын

there are small dialogue changes depending on your honour so rockstar was aware about his but I guess they didn't dive deep into full-on cutscene changes.

did you visit everyone's graves as John? i made a big thing out of it, put him in the nicest suit money could buy, got him a shave, bath, and haircut and took one long journey in order of their deaths. a bottle of brandy and a cigar and at arthurs grave i read the notebook.

@tetrafuse3096

4 жыл бұрын

I assume you now what happens when you 100% the game? You visit Arthur's grave one last time as John

@meysamsamadi7587

Жыл бұрын

Visiting Arthur's grave was the last thing I had to do to get the game to 100%. So as I visited the grave, the trophy showed up. It was fantastic.

I hate Micah so much that I nearly punched my TV everytime I saw his face. (Luke, Give me your Heart!)

@amazinglarry9920

5 жыл бұрын

Van The Gaming Man i didn’t finish the game why does everyone hate him?

@GhostOfVan

5 жыл бұрын

He's literally just a prick toward you always calling you soft, making fun of you and he is obviously meant to make you angry.

@salmanazhar88

5 жыл бұрын

Micah is very bad character

@amazinglarry9920

5 жыл бұрын

Alen ty for the response. So Micah kills him and not the tuberculosis?

@Ballinger71

5 жыл бұрын

@@amazinglarry9920 Why would you want it spoiled for you. Better yet why didn't you even finish the game??

RDR2 is easily one of my favorite video games of all time. I'm almost through my second play through of the game and am currently in Saint Denis. The story, characters, open world, graphics, and soundtrack all hold up. It's truthfully a stunning achievement in AAA gaming. However, there's a lot of gameplay elements that fall short. Rockstar doesn't want you to approach the missions in your own way, they want you to do it exactly their way. Sneaking in through a secret door or trying to approach the mission in a more tactful way almost always results in the Mission Failed screen. They don't give very much liberty or control to the player, everything is supposed to unfold in THEIR way. I wish there was more than just one way to complete a mission, this happens in almost every side mission as well. I feel limited in the world that they have created, none of the gameplay systems that they created allows player freedom. I play RDR2 for Arthur and the overall narrative, not for the gameplay. Which is a bit of disappointment bc there's a lot of promising aspects about the gameplay, but they aren't ever fully realized and feel incomplete. EDIT: I still love this game, and I understand that most of the gameplay is the way it is to serve the overall narrative. However I want freedom in an open world. Even in stealth missions you are limited by your approach and it's frustrating for new and veteran players alike. In terms of story, graphics, open world, score, the game is a 9-10/10. However in terms of gameplay, the game becomes a 6/10.

@maxim196

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe the gameplay will turn to 7\10 once the game comes out on PC ? better controls and smoother aiming with a mouse with no auto aim ?

@807D14M0ND5

4 жыл бұрын

@@maxim196 It's not just the aiming. The games takes control away from you many times during missions and it signals no confidence towards the player. Say I have to approach a character with my horse. A horse I've ridden on for hours and hours. You'd expect the game to just let me handle this but it doesn't. The game makes the horse slow down and stop near the character without my input. It doesn't trust me to do it.

to be honest id say Micah is the only one without a redemption/character arc as he is consistent throughout the entire game in his behaviour as opposed to Dutch who gets slowly worse into madness and has very good character development

@karenamyx2205

2 жыл бұрын

Dutch has an inverted arc to Arthur or John. They are on a journey of redemption ofc. But Dutch.. he starts as this amazing, charismatic, savior. And slowly becomes irredeemable.

@grogwire

Жыл бұрын

Micah is a snake rat. That’s all.

Luke this is phenomenal work. So watchable. The quality of the video (sound and video) is perfect, the set is the right amount of cosy and professional and your script (if there was one) feels natural and articulate at the same time. One thing though. I wish you use more anecdotal footage from gameplay and try to encapsulate the feel of enjoying the game. For example, I see that you have obtained the white horse in the game. Trying to explain the journey of doing that, while you show footage of Arthur walking in thick snow, would have been interesting. Similarly walking in Saint-Denis and letting the audience soak-in the ambience would have been great. Also, you should load the critique with more of the best scenes from the campaign. You have done that to some degree, but you could certainly sprinkle some other great scenes that would get us rdr2 fans emotional. All in all, though, this is quality work and a video that I will probably be recommending in a lot of other places. I love the idea of sitting down with a video like this, cosying up and reminiscing about one of my favourite games. This was the right amount of negative and positive too; you didn't nag about things to the point where a fan might get protective, nor did you use the kind of hyperbolic language that would make non-fans cringe.

@mysterio1967

5 жыл бұрын

He was probably trying to make sure that the video was like the game.

@Sharktankgaming

3 жыл бұрын

Considering his videos take many, MANY hours to complete, I'm sure we can give him a pass :p

@daverobson3084

2 жыл бұрын

Except where he shows a clip of Arthur and Dutch's interaction with the old lady in the cave, then proceeds to utterly mischaracterize the events in the clip he just showed. Or how he ignores Arthur's past of having a deceased wife and child. Or how he utterly mischaracterized the events on Guarma island as Dutch having the opportunity to live his life on a tropical paradise as he had stated was his plan as Dutch copping out on that dream, when actually his plan was to get the entire gang to paradise, not just himself, and that Guarma is in not actually a paradise as there is a war going on there and they had to fight for their lives nearly every second they were there. He actually isn't very good at this. I've seen much better.

@SirBartBartB

2 жыл бұрын

@@daverobson3084 Can you elaborate on the first issue? How do you read it otherwise then Dutch revealing his megalomaniac, psuedo-messianic and psychiatric mindset?

Reminds me of Breaking Bad when you were talking about how Dutch says he was doing it for the group. Same way Walter White says he does it for his family but in reality he does it for himself

I didn't notice Arthur getting TB but I did notice the first cough. It was the lightest, almost forgettable cough. But it came at the end of a scene and kinda caught me off guard. I said to myself "well that was weird", as the story went on the cough got heavier and more intense, I knew R* was going somewhere with it. When he went to the doctor and found out he had TB it took me back to that first scene where he coughed. That was amazing story telling.

@irishman7329

2 жыл бұрын

I think R* supposed to make you forget that cough to make you think that is nothing

I'm amazed by the fact that we got to a stage where 2 minutes between a stimuli that interrupts one's thought process is too long and makes a thing boring. Don't get me wrong, I (probably) percieve it in that way too, but realizing it, and thinking about it is... ...depressing, I guess?

Easily top 3 game of this generation imo.

@lilpp4791

5 жыл бұрын

Yea

"this is supposed to be critique, you're supposed to be criticising this game heavily" NO. That's not what critique is. Critique is analysis. Good and bad. As balanced and objective as possible. I don't know where people get this stupid idea that "critique" means taking something down. That's stupid.

@hidekihbr

3 жыл бұрын

so... isnt it easier to just call it analysis?

@Edax_Royeaux

3 жыл бұрын

How Wikipedia defines Critique: "Critique is commonly understood as fault finding and negative judgment, it can also involve merit recognition, and in the philosophical tradition it also means a methodical practice of doubt."

@hanselthecaretaker

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed it’s easier to leave analysis as just that. Critique: _noun. an article or essay criticizing a literary or other work; detailed evaluation; review. a criticism or critical comment on some problem, subject, etc. the art or practice of criticism._

@daverobson3084

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. This guy does not really understand the word " critique".

@zelestial1681

2 жыл бұрын

Could say the same about the logistics of cancel culture 😂

Yes! Everything I was hoping for in this critique, you covered perfectly. Now that I've had some time to get used to this new critique formula, I have to say, I much prefer this style over the old one. I love having the TV in the background for irrelevant gameplay, but switching over to full screen for when you are discussing that particular segment. (Although that glare is a bit annoying) Regarding the critique itself, you absolutely nailed it. I would say this one is on par with your Witcher 3 critique, maybe even better. My only complaint is I wish you spent more time talking about the rest of the gang, as well as all the other side characters like Milton. I would have liked to see you discuss about how the Pinkertons wove in and out of the story, and the ever present sense of dread the gang (and the player) feel, knowing that the Pinkertons could show up at any moment and destroy everything they have built. I don't know about you, but I felt quite a bit of anxiety near the end of Arthur's story. I knew it wasn't going to end well, and I could feel the dread the characters were feeling, knowing that the Pinkertons were just around the corner. One last thing: I've brought this up on the Discord before, but I would loooove to see a character study/analysis of Dutch. I find him to be a fascinating character, and remarkably complex. (That "you can't fight nature" speech is a highlight) Keep up the great work!

@LukeStephensTV

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! That's high praise, I'm so so so glad to hear that you enjoyed it so much! I actually do have a new series in the works that I think you will like a lot (more coming in the next few weeks). As for the glare, I totally agree. It wasn't that bad in the original shoot but the color correction made it much more pronounced. I'm working on a fix for this. Again, thank you so much for letting me know your thoughts! It helps me keep improving these, especially when there's specificity included!

Super interesting how Dutch assumes that someone else's plan may have landed them on that island, but then cant grasp the fact that Micah betrayed everyone at the end of the main story.

@karenamyx2205

2 жыл бұрын

Well, hed have to admit his fault. Not really in his character.

@grogwire

Жыл бұрын

“Gotta blame somebody. Otherwise it’s my fault. Fuck that.”

Idk if you noticed but the epilogue punishes you for going back to outlaw habits before you buy beacher’s hope. When you leave the first ranch for more than a few hours the game critiques you through Abigail who gets upset and frustrated. I always though it was a really cool little detail that I would have not thought of and adds to the immersion.

Definitely one of your best critique. Keep doing what your doing, because it's amazing

@jamesbell1186

5 жыл бұрын

If you like this you should watch Joseph Anderson. He does the best game critiques on KZread.

I also like how you can notice Arthur progressively becoming sick, you can see him coughing more and slowing down throughout chpt 3-6

@stuglife5514

Жыл бұрын

You can also see it in his skin too. Keep a close look on the skin around his eyes and the color of his skin

This was such a good analysis on the dynamic between Arthur and Dutch. When playing the game for the first time it really weirded me out how co-dependent and enabling the other characters are with Dutch. And that codependent relationship Dutch has with Arthur really leaps out in the examples that you highlighted, the Guarma chapter is so necessary to see Arthur with the blinders off and he is seemingly witnessing Dutch for the first time objectively. The writers did such a great job in building that moment up when Arthur just flat out asks Dutch if he is going to kill him next if it serves him. Foreshadowing what happens later in Chapter 6. That dynamic is just amazing from a story telling perspective, as it captures the essence of these really flawed human characters and their intense unstable relationships.

Great , your voice and the script is so flawless and smooth that I didnt realize that video was over an hour long . Great work keep it up.

I just listened to this whole critique through my the remainder of my morning shift, thanks for getting me by......MORE NOW!!

5:08 -start of video

@BEYONDTHESPIDERFILMS

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you

@toma-yb4gz

4 жыл бұрын

I mean you’re incorrect but okay.

@kurtcobain5466

3 жыл бұрын

0:00 is start tho

This game's ending felt so good it kinda makes me want to pretend the first game isn't canon

@vilevillain1059

3 жыл бұрын

all he had to do was not go after micah :(

What I really don't like about RDR is the "Snitch" Trope that ALWAYS appear in R* stories. All those games have an asshole character that betrays the main character (and surprises no one). I liked Micah as a villain, but I'd love him more if the subplot of the Snitch was just a lie to instigate conflict and fights inside the gang, and Micah was actually just a ruthless utilitarist asshole, that wanted to cut the weak ones thinking that it would make the gang stronger, and Arthur saw the end of the lawless era coming miles away, and wanted to move on from that.

@riccardomallardo9929

3 жыл бұрын

Well to be honest we can't really tell if Micah was a snitch or not, according to Milton he started to snitch after coming back from guarma, so who snitched on the saint denis heist? The more I think of it the more it seems weird to me that he is a snitch, I despise him sure, but I don't know...he doesn't make sense as a snitch, he enjoys way too much being an outlaw, Molly as a snitch makes more sense, or reverend swanson, hell even Abigail as a snitch would be more probable. People who wish or at least wouldn't mind leaving the outlaw lifestyle behind. Micah instead...I mean look at the epilogue, he just kept being an outlaw, I don't know what deal he made with the law but they sure wouldn't allow him to keep killing and stealing, in the first game they came after john who did much more for them and who turned his life around, micah instead not only gets away with it by simply revealing the gang's camp but he is even allowed to keep being a criminal? In my opinion rockstar left that quesion unanswered on purpose to let the player wonder wether micah is a snitch or not, we have no evidence, we just know what agent milton said, up to you if you believe him

@_spacesamurai

3 жыл бұрын

@@riccardomallardo9929 your theory actually makes a lot of sense dude.

@Karasugou_

3 жыл бұрын

@@riccardomallardo9929 Molly literally says that she told the Pinkertons about the Saint Denis Bank Heist. She says its because she wanted to see him dead, and then she's shot in the stomach by Mrs. Grimshaw, when you first make it to Beaver Hollow.

we really need a whole chapter dedicated to sadie would’ve bloated the game but i would love it

@wippyfr

5 жыл бұрын

I hated sadie so much by the end i started killing myself to skip her missions. I have nothing against tough woman, but the way she was written made me furious. I wouldve preferred getting more mission with Javier or miss Grimmshaw. She fucks up so many situations by becoming a bloodthirsty psychopath, killing people she doesnt need to, not unlike micah, but because shes a woman its suddenly okay. The final straw was when she killed the guy who ran with micah because he actually had morals. Fuck that bitch.

@MuddHutter1

5 жыл бұрын

I agree. But something tells me it will never happen as a DLC.

@thoremblem3625

3 жыл бұрын

@@wippyfr the difference between micah and Sadie is that Sadie is fueled by the rage and depression from her husband’s and closest friend’s (Arthur’s) murder. Micah is a coward fueled by greed for money and power, only caring about his own personal gain. Sadie is flawed but that makes her a better character, not a worse one.

@bobgunjoe2577

3 жыл бұрын

@@thoremblem3625 yes, but that is from a lore perspective. If you are dropped in without context, she is an annoying character with few redeeming qualities. Now most people aren’t dropped in without context so they understand her emotions, but when you finally get a mission where she kills her husband’s murderer, it gets disappointing when you realize it takes place at the end of chapter 6.

@KevinPetersdp

3 жыл бұрын

@@wippyfr same, I found her so annoying

You are hands down my favourite KZreadr. Love your videos and also that you always try to see everything from a business perspective as well as from the consumer perspective. As a business student myself I really like that.

The thing nobody seems to point out is at the end John asks Dutch why he’s here and Dutch reply’s same as you I guess. He was there to kill Micah he didn’t kill him just because John talked him into it he was going to in the first place. I guess you could say he really did get his redemption.

@tikkidaddy

6 ай бұрын

And then we move on to RDR where Dutch has gone full on nuts and starts mouthing off at John about Abigail being a prostitute, "We all had her* etc. I really wanted to see Dutch redeemed. I really did. But Dutch is unbalanced as an elephant on ice skates

You know one of the upgrades for the camp is improving the lodging and the description is"Dutch wants something more comfy"

Love to listen to these kind of videos while studying or drawing. This just made my day.

Easily my favourite gaming youtuber to listen to at the moment. So knowledgeable. Well done.

Finally, was anticipating this so much.

I can stress enough how iconic these characters are, almost all of them... At this point the accent and dialogue have become memes but its beacuse they are so well crafted that they stick on out minds and we just wanna keep hearing it.

@karenamyx2205

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe when your mothers finished mourning your father, I'll keep her in black, on your behalf -most gangsta line ever

Hey Luke,I'm glad you broke down at the start the process of making this sort of video,thank you for putting in So much effort to get this out to us💜

reading arthurs journal throughout the game does prove Arthur had thoughts of regret and doubt towards his actions and dutch's plus there is also the dialogue in a chapter 2 mission where you can tell he is starting to doubt dutch, a perfect example of his regret however is when you read the journal after the debt collecting missions.

The thing that always bothered me about Dutch killing that old woman was the fact that nobody took the gold off of her dead body. Dutch is obsessed with getting money, so why wouldn’t he take that money back!? He gave her a gold bar!

@donttrip49956

2 жыл бұрын

Because he isn't obsessed with money. Contrary to what most think, he's not greedy, he's a megalomaniac power hungry narcissist. He only used money as a way to manipulate others to keep on believing and holding on to him and to justify his crazy actions as he feels more and more pushed against the wall.

@FoulWeatherFriend385

2 жыл бұрын

Correct. That’s why Dutch walks away from the treasure after he *SPOILER* shoots Micah in front of John. He has lost his influence, which is worth more to him than the money.

I used to hate the Guarma section, and now I realize its importance, thank you Luke

I like how throughout the story and the epilogue it shows how John Marston becomes the person he is in red dead redemption. Showing what happened before the events of red dead redemption 1 and confirming what john says during the events of his own redemption story.

DUUUUDE. Absolutely love your channel and everything about the content. If I can just chime in as an actor who has worked in VO, some games, and everything else.. it’d usually be less of a one sheet and more of a full production for something like this. Each actor would probably get a full book on their character’s details and backstory. They’d spend hours of time in table reads and personal conversations with the directors and line producers. I had the pleasure to work with the actor who played Jimmy Brooks once here in NYC and he told me he got something more like a packet. Obviously not saying that these actors weren’t geniuses in what they brought to the role. But for something as big in scope as this, the table read and development process is VAST. Even MORE so than something like a film or theatre project since there’s just SO many ways this game can play out. Just thought I’d throw that in and hope I could provide some perspective! Really loving your content and so happy I found your channel. Keep up the awesome work.

46:07 You forget about him feeding Angelo Bronte to a god damn alligator

I’m kinda excited for Luke’s Cyberpunk Critique or even a full review because he was one of the people I know who was most excited for it. Even his earliest videos were about Cyberpunk 2077.

My one problem is you don't cover Hosea. Hosea was the glue. He kept Dutch largely in check and kept the group together. They butted heads but Dutch respected him enough to keep his ego in check. Once Hosea was out of the picture Dutch lost the check to his ego and the one person who he saw as his equal and that is why the group imploded.

I'm not sure I agree that Rockstar didn't take any risks at all. I think making this game as slow paced as it is, is very much a risky and innovative thing. Not many other studio's would dare make a game that might bore people (keep them engaged at all times so their dopamine dependency forces them to gives us more money!!!), even if (like with this game in my oppinion) it would actually fit the narrative, realistic and immersive nature of the game. I do still agree that they could have tried to innovate more when it came to freedom in missions and such, but on the other hand I'm not entirely sure it would fit this game.

@stuglife5514

Жыл бұрын

Sometimes though risks like this pay out, but yea I agree with you. I mean, look at the zombie survive genera, project zomboid did to zombie survival what RDR2 did for open world story games. It was a massive risk, but RDR2 is one of the best most well written well made story games ever due to its pacing and details

WTH, Sadie didn't burn her house down, Micah did! I swear he knocked that table over.. 😒😌 watched this whole video to correct you on that.

@Karasugou_

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah while Sadie was scared Micah flipped the table over to get at her, knocking the lantern over causing the fire.

@hanselthecaretaker

3 жыл бұрын

When in doubt, blame Micah Bell.

New viewer. Watched the entire thing while starting the epilogue (took a break since the game released). Really quality video man. So much dedication. You gained a sub today

It's interesting how just being able to greet and speak to every character you come across can make the entire world feel more alive. I think this IS where RS innovated and began to perhaps not reinvent - but certainly add to - the wheel. No other game allows you to interact with every single NPC. It took my 2nd playthrough, where I began to play dishonorably to even realise that you could make JOKES with PUNCHLINES to NPCs. That there was an contextual system there. And I hope people take that dialogue system and develop it further. Mission-wise, I think RS could have been a lot more creative and done things to give the play more autonomy and freedom, and I hope they take that criticism to heart for the next installment of this franchise. Having said all that, it's still my favourite game of this generation, and I'm still playing it 6 months on! (and I'm talking about singleplayer). Nice work, man.

48:14 I never got that point of view, that was one of the best chapters in terms of the story.

To be honest, after I beat the main game I waited 2 or 3 months before playing the epilogue and that seems like the best way to play

Arthur has a southern accent and In the beginning he is Dutch’s right hand man.

@celadon6554

4 жыл бұрын

Dutch also has some moments in the early chapters before he went off the deep end where he tells Arthur that he feels like Arthur will betray him, because he "seems the type." That could be something.

@Apparoid1

2 жыл бұрын

I don't think thats the case whatsoever, in that northern accents back then were a little closer to southern accents than they are now. Or atleast in perception, also locations is an important aspect here. Although both of those things are harmonious.

Today, today is a good day sir. Thanks for making my Monday great.

My favourite Side character was Charles. Nuff said

@zenxpopo2116

2 жыл бұрын

Mine where Sean, Lenny, Sadie

@tschaytschay4555

Жыл бұрын

Mine too. The opposite of Sadie, smart, calm, almost a bit wise. I love Charles. :)

Love watching your critiques, and would also love to see your thoughts on the now classic GTA 4.

@TheB0sss

4 жыл бұрын

Imo GTA 4 did not age well compared to most rockstar games. I prefer GTA 5 (single player) and GTA SA over 4

@jordandennis6794

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheB0sss I like Niko more than GTA 4 in general.

the fact that your channel has only 114k subs boggles my mind

@quarreneverett4767

4 жыл бұрын

Mom said that about dad

@kurtcobain5466

3 жыл бұрын

Boggle

@martimrosatmuller443

3 жыл бұрын

@@kurtcobain5466 boggl

@kurtcobain5466

3 жыл бұрын

@@martimrosatmuller443 BOGGLE BOGGLE BOGGLE

I love these long form critiques man, keep up the good work

Love you Luke! Thanks for doing a critique on one of my favorite games of last year!

"Red dead redemption played it safe" i don't think so, they managed to slow down things so much that everyone freaked out the game was "slow". Having all those animations, all those dialogue, all the slow pace that the game impose to you is a bigger risk in my opinion than making GoW like every other action around here, full of armors, upgrades, semi open world map, gems, bility, sidequest etc.. Yes GoW used to be an "hack and slash" and they changed it, but what we got was a more mainstream action game, and change is not always for good, nor brave. Also,I don't understand what you mean by "revolutionary" in a sequel like RdR2.

I spend two months during the main story alone. Three weeks so far on the epilogue and I’m about halfway through epilogue 1. I’m really trying to take my time with it as theres so much for the world to offer

Great video! I discovered your channel a few days ago and I've listened already to a good amount of your long videos while I play videogames. They are really interesting and well thought. Keep up the good work!

Waited all week for this. Lunch break material for the next 3 days.

I find this game so immersive that when I'm hunting i often find myself whispering so I don't spook the animals

It would be cool to have Dutch as a protagonist in a Red Dead game

@captaincbt

4 жыл бұрын

T-00 I can see where your coming from but I think it’s too late now, we not only know how is story ends but we also know his fall, and because we’ve seen him at his worst it would numb our experience and make the narrative feel very weak because of how we as the player already feel as Dutch

Don’t ever stop making videos. Your critiques are amazing and I respect you so much for the amount of time and passion you put into them. You make me think about and realize things that I never realized while playing some games. Great stuff, man!

I love listening to your videos when I play games. Sort of like a podcast. Thanks for the content Luke

I like chapter 5, change my mind.

@BrixAlive

5 жыл бұрын

Ashir Malik it’s okay

@maxcatanzaro3309

3 жыл бұрын

Its weird. Its really farfetched and out of place. 6 guys holding a beach from 100s of soldiers and a warship. Its very out of place and i think it could have been done differently. But it does not ruin or change the fact that this is my favorite game of all time

Did you know if you dont get the oil wagon fast enough John will get it for you. So you can effectively skip having to get that wagon.

@mrsspiritwolf

5 жыл бұрын

@Caleb Cotton, rubbish, arthur has to steal the oil wagon, i spent over 30 mins trying to work out how to do it to get the gold medal.

@electricattika

5 жыл бұрын

mrs spiritwolf1954 Can confirm this happened to me in my second play through. It takes away the stagecoach icon after too long and just pops up the John icon. He pulls you aside and gives you some trash talk about it before asking you to meet him at the wagon.

@mrsspiritwolf

5 жыл бұрын

@@electricattika i'm also on my second playthrough and it has never happened to me

@AdityaSathya

5 жыл бұрын

@@mrsspiritwolf I can second (or third) what the other two said. I didn't get the Wagon and just did other missions and free roamed. After a few in-game days, the icon disappears and you can directly do the train robbery.

@mrsspiritwolf

5 жыл бұрын

@@AdityaSathya hmmmmmm seems like a strange glitch to me, but might try it out for myself to see lol

You are the best KZread guy out there. I found your videos from your witcher in-depth review... ...this is absolutely fantastic work. Thanks for doing these man, i really like watching them. Mahalo

Always love these critiques and they never fail to entertain me, Keep it up man!

Minor detail, but John's idea was to put the oil tanker on the tracks, and the train would have to stop otherwise it would crash through it and blow up 🤪

I wasn't really surprised that Dutch was the villain but that's only because I played through Red Dead 1, which most of us did. But I imagine there were people who never played RDR1 who wanted to play this game but weren't interested in going back to a PS3/X360 era game. To Rockstar's ctedit he is the best example of a sleeper villain in any game I have ever seen.

@tracyrae4854

5 жыл бұрын

What do you mean sleeper villain

@MrDueltube

5 жыл бұрын

@@tracyrae4854 A sleeper villain is a character that is initially either on your side or if not that they are a non-threat originally only to become the main threat later on.

@tracyrae4854

5 жыл бұрын

@@MrDueltube oh yea I agree

I-WE HAVE WAITED FOR THIS MASTERPIECE OF A CRITIQUE!

You’re work process and ethic is how I and we should all be attacking life. Goodluck with everything. Love it!!!!!

I’d say the Gloria mission in guarma is the turning point of the game Arthur sees Dutch show his true colors And Arthur starts showing symptoms

It would be cool to see a video comparing different well written characters in games and see how they compare to one another. For example comparing Geralt from Witcher to Kratos to Arthur Morgan to John Marston to Joel from Last of Us. Basically comparing their acting performances, their depth, their moral compass perhaps, etc.

Congrats on this big work Luke, amazing, keep it up

One of the most memorable things for me was when I rode around, as you do. And out of nowhere the things I thought was big rocks turned out to be a herd of bison resting. They all rose up at the same time and it felt like a real life nature experience, it was magical and awestriking.

the way the game starts lays the ground for another sequel prequel (and the final in the red dead trilogy) setting the scene for how the gang came to be, allowing for multiple protagonists to be playable as the story leads to the events of blackwater.

@ks4793

5 жыл бұрын

Red dead 3 will be phenomenal If it happens

@huskytzu7709

5 жыл бұрын

David Rushe don’t want it if rockstar still sticks with the clunky and dated gameplay mechanics. They need to be more innovative in gameplay terms and mission design

@James-vq4jw

5 жыл бұрын

huskytzu Rdr2’s gameplay wasn’t that bad everyone exaggerated it

@drushe1983

5 жыл бұрын

@@huskytzu7709 i think that the limitation of the controller (i played on ps4) often let to frustrations between actions and commands. overall i adapted to it pretty quickly (once you get off the mountain) and found it overall to be an enjoyable experience. i think what rockstar could look at doing is ditching the scripted nature of missions and allow players to approach missions in a more flexible way (think watch dogs 1/2, metal gear solid 5) with player choice trumping setting up cinematic moments.

Dutch at the end there tied together why John was so pissed about having to hunt him in particular in the first Redemption to me. Yeah, he raised John. But why would he be so against getting Dutch if he left him for dead? It all makes sense now and thats very impressive given what little grey area they had from the first to make the second.

This is so impressive the amount of time, effort, calculation, editing, research, and thought went into this video just for us to enjoy. We appreciate your awesome videos Luke!

these critiques are so comforting just feels like your big brother explaining a cool game to you

"Knock on wood for cyberpunk" Me in 2021: 😪god why😭

"There's gotta be a term for this..." I'm a new fan, but I'm shocked you haven't heard the term ludonarrative synchronicity!

@jamesj6426

3 жыл бұрын

Shocker hey? I hear that phase almost daily!

I’m about to cry right now watching this just thinking about how deep the bonds were between Dutch and Arthur and how it was exploited and broken. As well as the impact Arthur had on John and then thinking back on the first red dead redemption and how that ended. Such an amazing saga