Net Zero Fake Zero EVs are a waste of money and too dangerous 🔥🔥

@752brickie

Ай бұрын

We learned in 6th grade science back in the early '60s that CO2 was plant food and Plants give OXYGEN ???? Unreal ! If they want to save the planet- them first and set the example and we will fallow in about 10-30 years !

@rattusfinkus

Ай бұрын

EVs will reach price parity in 2025

@imtheeastgermanguy5431

Ай бұрын

Why they are waste of money and too dangerous?

@user-pi6cs3ue4s

Ай бұрын

@@imtheeastgermanguy5431 With any kind of flood damage or minor accidents they can be prone to catching fire so they are written off by insurers, the fires are also very toxic. The batteries are a structural component in many EVs now, and make up the majority of the cost of the vehicle, so if the battery needs replacing the second hand value is near. Also our electric grid can barely meet current demand, and all the green projects are 5-10 years behind schedule, meaning we do not have to capacity to double or triple or energy usage with EVs. As for price parity, if China drops its massive subsidies of its EV industry we will not reach parity with ICE vehicles until 2030.

@imtheeastgermanguy5431

Ай бұрын

@@user-pi6cs3ue4s other cars are broken as well when they got flooded and in the long run a fuel powered engine is pretty wasteful and produced also very toxic Gases and materials like oil. I'm pretty sure that electricity is also very needed to make fuel and to transfer it to the patrol station is carried by a lorry. So electricity you can use for almost everything and it's much easier to transfer but not to store yet. But there are methods which can store renewable energy over a pretty long time. Ev's can also be a storage for electricity and some cars can give the electricity back into the house or so which is great. And yes they can burn but test shows that they are actually pretty safe but the time to get the fire out is more. No matter what, even a half burned car is just trash.

It's been obvious for years that second hand EVs are worthless. Beats me why people still buy a new EV. Obviously they have more money than sense & don't care about the environmental impacts to produce one EV.

@Gazza-rv8ud

Ай бұрын

EV's are great. Yeah, the guys pumping out carcinogenic diesel exhaust are the true environmentalists.

@Debby659

Ай бұрын

​@Gazza-rv8ud If you own one good luck with that. And have fun if you go on long trips. Oh, and if they do it to airplanes and you travel by them good luck with that too. Just like our soldiers in battle using them for tanks and other vehicles. Wonder how far they get on those charges. And what happens to them when the charge dies and they're stuck on the battlefield? Oh well....

@ilguitaro

Ай бұрын

@@Gazza-rv8ud .....the guys pumping out carcinogenic diesel exhaust aren't any worse than the EV charging stations; most of which run on diesel generators....!!! Give your brain a chance!

@vivrowe2763

Ай бұрын

​@@Gazza-rv8udYou really don't know how they are made? You are a damn fool

@d3ezz_nutzzz344

Ай бұрын

​@@Gazza-rv8udWow your IQ level really is below room tempreture.

When he said they are taking 70% of land for windmills, he omitted to tell you it's all farmland they are taking. That is to reduce food. Just another part of the plan, starvation.

@peterparker9540

Ай бұрын

100%.

@carolinegodden4364

Ай бұрын

Whoopsie

@stoneageart9965

Ай бұрын

Just like Gates and the WEF promised You will own nothing and be happy or else

@user-yn4ni8km2t

Ай бұрын

Maybe they should take aborigines land as most of it is just desert. Got to be careful of it being suddenly scared land.

@IngloriousGlueBombs

Ай бұрын

@@user-yn4ni8km2t that's why they wanted the voice to pass so desperately. They pay enormous amounts in mining royalties and needed a workaround via a carefully selected 'advisory panel'.

EV's are just disposable appliances like cheap power tools you get from bunnings, straight to hard rubbish scrap heap when battery stops working. So much for them being environmentally friendly.

@agentsmithmememe

Ай бұрын

Yes but they aren't cheap

@Srekwah

Ай бұрын

Play things of the rich and subsidised.

Just like the climate cult.

@oldbloke204

Ай бұрын

All sorts of cults aren't there?

@rhyno1740

Ай бұрын

@@oldbloke204 Sure is.

@kilburn1313

Ай бұрын

A to Z@@oldbloke204

@oldbloke204

Ай бұрын

@@rhyno1740 I would suggest that some on here think that others are in cults whilst they are also.

@wallyheindl3270

Ай бұрын

That's why the cult of nuclear has to end. (shall we put the waste in you're back yard?) Take a look at South Australias renewable setup and learn. @@Matthias_Fischer

The wind farms are going to totally destroy all the farmland in Australia the way they are going. The landscape is an eyesore already. And the EV's are already on the decline in a huge way.

@theend9494

Ай бұрын

Nissan Qashqie hybrid 60k are they kidding

@richardcox3713

Ай бұрын

The destruction of farm land and production is deliberate on the part of Labor and the Greens.

@levismith7444

Ай бұрын

Those turbine blades kill all of the large birds of prey too

@markae0

29 күн бұрын

Hate those windmills grinding grain down.- Don Quixote

Only the rich will buy them and not worry about their resale values. Others are just plain gullible and stupid to buy an EV.

@joseeduardo2299

Ай бұрын

Rich people don't buy teslas

@xenofonz7640

Ай бұрын

@@joseeduardo2299 Yes they do - not all of course.

@xenofonz7640

Ай бұрын

@@balthazarbulau4095 Those who generally buy EVs do so for virtue signalling. Often it has nothing to do with whether one is rich or poor. That's the whole point.

@Henry1965ism

Ай бұрын

I made a comment on another video saying something similar. That wealthy people buy them so they can brag about it to their friends. But YT deleted it.

@Timbuctoo

Ай бұрын

If my small businesses was taxed way less for leasing a small EV for city use only then perhaps. But that won't happen. If I leased one I wouldn't care about resale. You would be stupid to buy one privately.

maintain old cars and fit spares is way greener

@EssentialComment

Ай бұрын

Yes, thats is why my hilux now has 430000ks on it, it is very cheap to own, just a few parts now and then

@user-rf9ws7hp3e

Ай бұрын

And that’s a Fact

@brianmorris8045

Ай бұрын

@@EssentialComment And it gets you where to go on a tank of petrol, or diesel. Like the meerkat says..."Simple!" lol

@EssentialComment

Ай бұрын

@@brianmorris8045 it's got a range of about 700 ks on around 70 litres

@tomkimber9072

Ай бұрын

@@EssentialComment so 700km from 70 ltr doing the mileage I do living rurally would cost about $10,000 a year in diesel alone (at $2 per litre). Yeah will stick to the ev I think. Used to have a 75 series troopy and it was definately not a cheap car to run!

EVs were designed to be recycled every couple of years not a good thing for the emissions 🤔

@videofreak6047

Ай бұрын

Or for your pocket.

@rattusfinkus

Ай бұрын

LFP lasts 1 million kms

@rattusfinkus

Ай бұрын

EVs will reach price parity in 2025, then the fun begins

@dzcav3

Ай бұрын

@@rattusfinkus "LFP lasts 1 million kms" or your first fender bender, when the car gets totaled because it, or the battery, can't be economically fixed. Then it hopefully gets recycled. EVs are made to be disposable. That's one reason insurance rates for them are so high.

@rattusfinkus

Ай бұрын

@@dzcav3 no the insurance rates are high because there is no experience with EVs in the repair industry. They don't know what is repairable so they assume worst case. Also there are not enough repairers for EVs. What will happen is the repair industry and the insurance industry will catch up as well as batteries will get massively cheaper. In the bad old days it would have cost $60,000 to replace the cells in a standard pack now ii costs about $6000 and by 2025 it cost $3600.

Keith Pitt was asked if nuclear power could be ramped up and down to fill in the gap from renewables. The thing is there is no need to, if we have nuclear power, renewables won't be required. This is why the renewable industry is so scared of nuclear power because the gravy train will collapse.

@peterparker9540

Ай бұрын

In reality we need more carbon in the atmosphere!

@gregorymalchuk272

Ай бұрын

Nuclear energy has the fastest sleew rate of any prime mover. Reactors in the nuclear navy can slew 80% of capacity in 30 seconds.

@elastotec173

Ай бұрын

@@peterparker9540 100% correct

@sauronthegreat5799

26 күн бұрын

Where are we going to put all that nuclear waste that doesn't disappear for another 100 million years?

@gregorymalchuk272

25 күн бұрын

@@sauronthegreat5799 Where do we currently put all the chemical waste from the extraction of rare earth elements for wind turbines in China? Into village water supplies where it causes mass poisonings. And unlike nuclear waste, chemical waste never decays.

If an ICE motor wears out it is relatively inexpensive to fix it …if a battery wears out that’s up to $40 000 to replace it

@JeremyRogers.

Ай бұрын

That's right. Alot of American manufacturers obviously don't believe in EV's long term because they all have been designing and working on their next gen ICE engines.

@jasonstranthon5183

Ай бұрын

Best part about that is IF my LS7 ICE motor ended up blowing up I could buy a brand new crate motor LT4 (the new corvette motor) for less than $40k aus.......or rebuild the ls7 for even less...... EV's are junk.

@knight2425

Ай бұрын

You’re forgetting if you have a minor accident in an EV you should replace the batteries for safety because it could have ruptured a cell and be unstable, don’t need to do that with an ICE vehicle so what’s better for the environment?

@JeremyRogers.

Ай бұрын

@@jasonstranthon5183 love a good LS engine.

@rattusfinkus

Ай бұрын

LFP batteries last 1 million kms

Insurance companies write them off after a medium crash because it's too dangerous to repair.

@MT-lv3ls

Ай бұрын

Have a front end collision in your petrol/diesel car and see how it goes for you. A medium crash writes off almost anything these days, all those pesky safety measures sure are a pain.

@knight2425

Ай бұрын

@@MT-lv3lsRubbish, if y9u have the slightest hit in an EV you should be replacing the batteries as there is a risk it has ruptured a cell, you don’t do that in an ICE vehicle and last time I checked replacing a bumper some guards and an bonnet won’t write most cars off but damage just the bumper in an EV and it’s pretty like it will

@MT-lv3ls

Ай бұрын

@@knight2425 If you got a hit enough to just need a bumper replacement then you did well. Congrats, but as long as you don't impact the structure of the cells - you do not need to replace it. If you are only debating where impacts happen, then you are using stupidity to win an argument.

@oldbloke204

Ай бұрын

@@MT-lv3ls Rather a bad argument for you to get involved in given insurance companies will write off and EV if there's even a risk of battery damage and potential future problems.

@knight2425

Ай бұрын

@@MT-lv3ls any impact in an EV could rupture a cell and you won’t know about it until the car catches on fire hence why they get written off for even a small impact unlike an ICE vehicle and as for your first point, Most modern cars can absorb a decent hit before doing more damage past the front bumper, you might replace lights and grills and at worse blend in a quarter panel

Stop ALL energy subsidies

@DHW256

29 күн бұрын

And all vehicle subsidies, all compliance and carbon credits, everything attached to do-gooder causes like "climate change" and other frauds.

@msgmak1379

28 күн бұрын

But....all those 10 year old slaves will be out of work......

"Welfare for wind and solar " brilliant analogy

Meanwhile, China already has several small nuclear reactors and more are being built. Other countries, such as UK, US, Canada, South Korea, Japan, India, Sweden, Russia, etc. already have in development small nuclear reactors, either early in development or well advanced. It's the way of the future, not solar and wind. Australia as usual is a backward nation and behind the times.

@MT-lv3ls

Ай бұрын

Take a look at the populations of those countries. Australia only has 26 million and that makes it pointless. Go and take a look at how much one costs to build, existing sites and new - even those modular ones the Libs are on about and then you see why this is nothing but a fantasy. Because we sold power generation to a private entity, with costs determined by them - they will never spend the 14 to 30 billion needed, this before deciding on how much output is needed. Your fantasy is even more of a pipe dream than the ones you seem to think are.

@batmanlives6456

Ай бұрын

Bowen’s never heard of such places … He can’t even pronounce NUCLEAR ☢️

@henrylikesradios

Ай бұрын

Furthermore, we have lots of uranium used to fuel these reactors, we don't need to import it.

@anthonyfellowes8204

Ай бұрын

What towns do you plan to put these nuclear power stations? I'm just curious because my area is fighting a new coal mine for a power station. Maybe my local area would like that instead. It's the old saying " sounds like a good idea, Just not in my back yard"

@xenofonz7640

Ай бұрын

@@anthonyfellowes8204 I'd be very happy to work at a nuclear power station. Much safer than driving a car these days.

Billions of taxpayer's dollars will be wasted on subsidising EV's and chargers for wealthy people , to provide no benefits to average Australians. This money could have been far better spent on education , healthcare and productive infrastructure.

@elastotec173

Ай бұрын

100% correct

@backcountyrpilot

Ай бұрын

Netter yet, don’t spend it and reduce taxes.

Well, yea, who the fuck *wants* an EV?

@Prognosis__

Ай бұрын

Makes people feel good I suppose

@CapsizedCloud

Ай бұрын

@@Prognosis__ That’s all an EV is. A toy to make horrible people feel better about themselves.

@Gazza-rv8ud

Ай бұрын

EV's are great

@CapsizedCloud

Ай бұрын

@@Gazza-rv8ud Sure.

@videofreak6047

Ай бұрын

​@@Gazza-rv8udfor erupting in flames no thanks

Of course, you'd have to be mad to purchase a second hand ev, at this stage.

@j-1159

Ай бұрын

Expensive landfill

Like any used product that relies on rechargeable batteries, They’re useless, disposable garbage, my family have so many old phones and iPads that don’t turn on anymore because the battery’s are stuffed, That’s thousands of dollars down the drain

I was a submariner in the US Navy. The same people who were opposed to having nuclear power plants on land seemed oblivious to the 50+ nuclear powered vessels we already had docked in Norfolk, Virginia.

@terencejay8845

26 күн бұрын

I've said for years that the answer is a network of far smaller nuclear power stations serving regions, instead of these monsters that take ten years to build.

@tomnguyen9931

13 күн бұрын

So, when your Sub sink we don't have to worry about running a extension cord to power the coolant pumps. Or how about we just carry the Reactor to the ocean when their an accident?

Pull the Plug on Blackout Bowen

It's good to hear from a sensible parliamentarian.

I'd have to have more money than sense to buy an EV. Many buy them to signal faux environmental virtue.

@xpusostomos

Ай бұрын

If it's true they're worthless it won't cost anything to get one

I think AGL is a Chinese owned company so pro Labor.

@billyt69

Ай бұрын

Its ASX listed company. so is owned by Retail investor/shareholders 60%. Institutional funds 40% Largest shareholder holds 8%.

@bradcavanagh3092

Ай бұрын

It's Australian, just incredibly woke and therefore poorly run. I should know, I was a long suffering shareholder until I sold out last year when the price spiked back to just above what I bought them for.

@user-xo4rx8ov5o

Ай бұрын

Definitely a bad one

Will be sticking with my 1983 v8 Range Rover tanx!

@Timbuctoo

Ай бұрын

Until they pull the pin on fuel or start lacing fuel with metal shards. I wouldn't put it past the government. Eventually you won't have a choice and you will be happy 😂

@raoulheinrichvonmerten4851

Ай бұрын

83 eh ,in will cost you sooner or later , then it will be a garage queen while you drive your ev to work

It's Labor, money is nothing to them.

EVs are disposable cars.

@justice1902

Ай бұрын

all cars are disposable.

@sutfuf6756

Ай бұрын

@@justice1902 23 year old wrx still running, and in use. :-) It still holds 60 litres; EV battery wont last that long nor keep it's capacity no matter how well you treat it. Resale value is 0. WRX will get me 5-10k. :-) EV's are disposable batteries on wheels.

Considering how much labor pay AGL for renewables and also how much they can charge for power. It's no wonder they don't want to give them up.

@Olsnedzy

Ай бұрын

Spot on mate , it’s a proper rort.

Well what is powering Australia now 24/7 and has since we had electrification. It is called coal Ciaron.

Yeah. Only the self-deluded think EVs area good idea.

@user-vk4el9oy6m

Ай бұрын

I believe EV's are the future its simply a matter of refining the technology which is continually happening to EV's....The EV owners of today are the people who drive the industry forward they are the guinea pigs and we should be thanking them.

A man I know leased an EV for two years, when the lease ended the company didn't want it back! 😆😆 Seriously! They offered to sell it to him for almost nothing, because they literally did not want it back. So he did buy it because it was so cheap.

Industry needs power, running 10000 houses on renewables is not the same as powering a smelter. Once this industry leaves our shores it is unlikely it will come back.

Bowen doesn't care. The public PAYS FOR HIS EV 😂

Look at all the EV fires, scary stuff, firemen can't put the out.

This is true, also if you have an accident, panel beaters don’t want to deal with them

Wait until the novated leases expire on all these EVs that the early adopters piled into

'Valueless' is just not true. There's at least fifty dollars scrap value in any car, EV or not.

@urbanracer032

Ай бұрын

Pretty much. My Tesla needs a new battery to the tune of $17K. No dealers want it and the scrap yard offered $7K for it.

@topmarques

Ай бұрын

@@urbanracer032 I'm in the car industry and @90% of the dealers I know wouldn't take a working one in trade in. We could face a bill your size under dealer warranty or a 'goods not fit for the purpose' claim. Just not worth the risk. Also, who would want one on the premises with thermal runaway risk? Insurance companies are meant to store them 15m apart now. I'm sorry you got caught.

@urbanracer032

Ай бұрын

@@topmarques Eh, it's my fault for listening to the mainstream media instead of doing my own research on the pro's and con's of buying and living with an EV.

@urbanracer032

Ай бұрын

@@topmarques It's my fault for listening to all the mainstream media hype, not doing any of my own research on buying and living with an EV.

@majorlaff8682

Ай бұрын

@@urbanracer032 Take that $7k, hopefully in real money, i.e. cash, and run. You can probably buy a 10/12 year old Camry for that. My friend has a 2005 Camry Aurizon with over 400,000 kms and it ticks over like a Swiss clock.

Just driven past 50 wind turbines and not one was turning. That's what happens when the winds not blowing.

@warrensaillard7022

Ай бұрын

Or to windy

@stefanpredl6849

Ай бұрын

If it was very sunny it would overload the grid so they get stoped

They depreciate badly. Hertz USA dumped all their EV vehicles from their fleet. The cost to repair and then find someone to repair the car is a challenge in themselves. The batteries deteriorate and cost ten's of thousands of $$$$ to replace.

Of course AGL don't want nuclear on their sites when they won't get in money for doing so. I bet their viewpoint would be an entirely different if they were offered comparable money to do it...

Let me guess, they're like a toy where they're made to break and you have to buy one every 5 years?

Ecological Disaster. Where is all the Wealth? Muscle / Classic / Performance Cars!!! Why? They have Pedigree, performance and style!!! They were Forged on the Race Track!!! Imagine an EV Pit stop???

Hahaha "our vast supply of renewables".... Lets continue to ignore that Australia has 1/3 of the worlds Uranium resources 🤦

If the used car is going to need $20k's worth of new batteries, then yes, it's going to be pointless keeping it on the road. When petrol and especially diesels can do hundreds of thousands of miles, why would anyone in their right mind want to go electric?

@kgfgfg1

Ай бұрын

Because it’s cheaper to run ? Why pay for diesel when you can charge your car at home for free from your rooftop PV System.

Good to hear a political leader with insight and common sense

@Timbuctoo

Ай бұрын

He's just a politician, not a business person. I don't trust any of them.

EV cars just like solar panels and windmills are a waste of money.

How many EV's bought in the last two years were bought by Government departments ? Quite a lot most likely.

Well, I am staying with my old Toyota Tacoma that runs flawless ,no oil leaks no issues !

I’m still waiting to hear why we need to go backwards in wealth and lifestyles to change the planet which we have literally no control over whatsoever

@Aaronwhatnow

Ай бұрын

Of course your waiting to be told what to think.

@Prognosis__

Ай бұрын

@@Aaronwhatnowwhat is that supposed to mean?

@toddrohrlach8336

Ай бұрын

Got nothing to do with the planet man just socialism .

@Aaronwhatnow

Ай бұрын

​@@Prognosis__you cant think for yourself 🤦‍♂️

@Prognosis__

Ай бұрын

@@Aaronwhatnow you are not making sense little boy

Can see us being like Cuba in the future...with classic cars forty and fifty years old cruising our streets.

Hope you guys can reverse this madness when you get in

Nothing but boat anchors

Car dealers in the UK won't trade in EV cars, as second hand EV's drop in value very quickly, they lose too much value sitting on the showroom floor. Hybrids are OK but not EV's. The Macmaster KZread channel purchased a new Porsche Taycan EV 3 years ago for £120,000 and the most that Porsche will give him as a trade in on a new Petrol Porsche is £ 38,000.

Windmills should have most birds and bats wiped out in about 20 years

And ICE vehicles are not dangerous?? A few years ago in LA, an ICE vehicle struck the back of an ICE minivan; all seven of the minivan occupants perished in the resulting gasoline-fueled fire.

Internal combustion is good.. spontaneously combusting not so good.... Bawawaa

we purchased our gas powered lease in preparation for mandates. it a honda so it will last years

Unfortunately EVs are not green!

Cars depreciate (with come very rare exceptions), and the batteries have a lifetime of under a decade. The batteries cost tens of thousands to replace. Even if the battery was cared for and the car is like new, you're still buying a battery system that is in less than optimal condition and will likely need replacing in the time of your ownership.

Like the idiots in the streaming wars are finding out..... when everyone goes their own way...... no one wins. They need to standardize EV parts to lower costs from battery to charger.... this I got my own idea is just driving up costs/maintenance to impossible levels for the consumer and everyone loses.

You forgot to mention replacement batteries 20k to 50k depending on the vehicle

People need to get it into their heads that they will not be driving. The bulk of your income is going to be spent on electricity.

The only dependable electric car was the older Toyota Prius. How many coal fire or natural gas facilities will have to be built to produce electricity.

Nuclear power station is the main powerhouse with hydraulic power stations to adjust fluctuations of energy demand.

not spending 50k+ on a EV thats worthless after it has one bad cell ,rather spend 50k i dropping V8 6.1l Cummins into my Landcruiser ,

@imtheeastgermanguy5431

Ай бұрын

Stupid 😅

Soon dealers will be asking you to pay them to take EVs when you buy a hybrid, diesel or petrol car.

Government: "Buy a super expensive money pit. Take one for the team."

Wind and Solar is the most Expensive way of producing and delivering electricity known to man. It cannot exist without massive subsidies and baseload gas/coal fired power stations running in the background. France shows that the price of Nuclear Energy by comparison is magnitudes of order lower than Renewables.... There is literally no comparison in price or efficiency with Nuclear power compared to inefficient and expensive Renewables.... and of course if you accept that CO2 is not a pollutant, then modern, super critical coal fired power stations are THE best option for the cheapest electricity you can buy.

@MT-lv3ls

Ай бұрын

Wind and Solar is the cheapest method of power production. As long as coal and gas are at their eye watering market prices, you won't see any business paying this overhead that eats away profit margins. As for nuclear, look up how much it costs, the time it takes to become operational and then tell me a country with less than a third of the population of France is going to generate the income fast enough to warrant that immense outlay. But we all know a few billion dollars of tax payer money solves everything. It don't matter what it is, business will cry poor regardless. Coal has been subsidised well enough, 10 billion a year is a good bit of coin to make. When the only "emission" is a radioactive element lasting a few hundred thousand years, I guess it's a good trade off to have spent rods buried everywhere instead of a gas in the atmosphere.

@stefanpredl6849

Ай бұрын

who ever build atom now will big regret it good that there are non in ger and aut build at the moment whit energy storage and renewables atom will get outsold pretty fast

If it doesnt 🔥👈 first then you get 0 for it 😆

note ..... those gas generators may have to burn diesel due to the gas shortage

It’s the biggest con ever, wake up and smell the coffee. 🇬🇧

Yup

If they're worth nothing, I'll take one.

@TheSledgehammer205

Ай бұрын

Go for it! A chap in Canada picked up a used EV cheap, then took it in for a service to fix his range issues (go figure) ... the cost of the battery replacement was more than he paid for. Ended up scrapping it.

@jasonjason5184

Ай бұрын

Yep Australian Nissan leaf 2nd hand 15k no range left, new Nissan battery 30k Can get no name batteries cheaper but don’t last as many years as the Nissan batteries.

@xpusostomos

Ай бұрын

@@jasonjason5184 the leaf is a special case, they fucked up , they didn't have battery cooling and they didn't last

The government is covering 53% of new ev's, so when the Ev battery dies and it costs more than the original purchase price because a battery replacement is not subsidized the car becomes useless. Just imagine how expensive a car will be when they force gas engines off the market and the subsidies stop.

@Wahinies

27 күн бұрын

They are hoping to keep that hush hush before the mass failures start and there is junk EV like a scene out of Idiocracy

AGL are grifters.

Whats worse than an electric car. A. Second hand electric car

One thing I would really like to know as I'm sure most Australians would is are the coalition going to wind back these rediculous emissions goals that this idiot labor government are proposing for future vehicles that this country relies on. Its not hard, yes or no!

@MT-lv3ls

Ай бұрын

If it gets in the way of profits? of course. When closed pipe systems were required for chemicals, everyone screamed about that too. But we all know what happens when there is nothing preventing poisonous run offs into the water. People don't seem to think the air quality or the temperature of that little rock we live on is important either. At least until inconvenience hits home anyway.

@gregorymalchuk272

Ай бұрын

​@@MT-lv3ls Exhaust of current ICE vehicles is ridiculously clean. We don't need to collapse industrial civilization's logistics for marginally "cleaner" air.

@MT-lv3ls

Ай бұрын

@@gregorymalchuk272 Of course it's better, after all those years in operation I would hope so. The catalytic converter literally saved everyone too. But when you add that Australia has no vehicle emission or fuel standards, it could be a lot better than that. The fact ICE are only 40% (at their best currently) efficient by their design is hardly a matter too, this ignoring older engines that might only be 25% - which means for every 100 dollars you pump in, 60-75% of that fuel's energy potential is not even doing anything. As for the "collapse of industrial civilization", the whole point of EVs from the outset was for the civilian market.

Not only are they valueless when trading in, their valueless when they're new. I wouldn't give a box of dead matches for that utter rubbish.

Even just 20% of the population driving EVs would collapse national electrical grids

Well EV's are not only expensive to buy, own, insure, and maintain but are proven to be more polluting from manufacturing them, the road pollution form the special tyres, the waste from the batteries catching fire, and providing the power to run them. In my area of rural NSW they are not only an alternative to what we use now and for example the farming community relies on many fossil fueled vehicles to carry on their business and lives, and that includes the tradies who service our homes or even build them! This whole debate on nuclear is also so ridiculous given that the Labor fools are giving the "green" (no pun) light to those obscenely expensive submarines yet flatly refuse any nuclear technology on land - total hypocrisy!!.

Corporate virtue Signalling = tax write off

I foresaw this months ago when EVs started to take off. Depreciation is going to make these cars worthless. What about the toxic stockpiles of used batteries? How will they be recycled? If not, how will our tips be secure from battery fires?

There are an average of 10 million cars scrapped in the US every year. What are they going to do with 10 million EV's every year....? You can'r just crush 10 million lithium batteries.....LOL. Who is going to buy a used EV with 80,000 miles on it?

what is wrong with coal using clean coal technology.

Companies like Porsche are already committed to going EV but no one wants a Porsche EV. I really wonder what will happen to them in 5 years.

A 2022 BMW i4 EV does 120 miles on a 80% charge in winter conditions. It’s completely impractical as a car. Also it takes around 8 hours to charge on a home charger. Don’t buy an EV, they are 💩

We the people don’t want electric vehicles, we don’t want them!

They were valueless when you paid between 40 and 70 thousand for them.... Only a fool thinks they were ever the answer.. ...

I’m a dealer and won’t take a EV in to my business as a trade. Guy wanted a new diesel and offered a EV. Had to turn him away.

Battery powered vehicles looking for a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.

When the first PC's hit the market they were bulky, very slow machines ( by today's standards) that couldn't do much. But as time went by they improved and became the fast machines they are today. Most of us have a computer in our pockets nowadays with our phones EV's over time will get better too, they just need a chance to develop. What they don't need is people saying they never will be any good. Like with our computers, phones and all the other gadgets we have nowadays they need time. They will get cheaper and they will get better. They are here to stay.

If a "trade-in" vehicle is said to be worthless, then in America at least, it means you're paying the dealer to take it off your hands. Even with a good trade-in vehicle, you're just giving your vehicle to the dealer for free.

I just bought a new car and it was NOT an EV, it is a 100% petrol. New Alfa Guilia Veloce 😂

it take five minutes to fill with petrol, you can be fifty kilometres down the road by the time you fill an electric car, and petrol is cheaper.

The box behind him, the Cat Haul Truck one… that is a cool model!

I've always asked this question. Why would anyone buy a used EV knowing they will be stuck with a horrendous bill for new batteries at some point at a cost of more than the car is worth?

One should not have to pay more than 5,000 dollars to dispose of your used EV.

The coalition and labour may as well be the same party. If you are relying on people to vote libs then prepare for a long reign of labour.

You dont turn up to a gun fight with a pea shooter.

So it’s not ok to use gas for Australian electricity , but we sell it overseas for electricity production. Mmm not quite sure about the hipocracy on this