Performing a temporary repair on a Goodman condenser coil that was leaking refrigerant at a very high rate.
Жүктеу.....
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@stangaloski4208 Жыл бұрын
Lol, you did great dude. These guys talking about red hot don't know shit about how thin condenser tube is. If it gets red hot you just punched a hole. I thought your torch control was spot on. Keep up the good work.
@ApartmentMaintenancePro
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Stan appreciate it!
@honestman2768 ай бұрын
Thanks from Bangladesh.
@gankstar20002 жыл бұрын
Well done, Dave! Got to do what you got to do... God bless!!!
@ApartmentMaintenancePro
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Truth :)
@ebaum1000 Жыл бұрын
Back in the day when I worked for some apartments they had all of these same Goodmans. Great units but this is the same leak I would run into. I would also fix them. Good times.
@ApartmentMaintenancePro
Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear that! Crazy how they manufactured so many of these leakers
@techfive72022 жыл бұрын
You are good at what you do man
@ApartmentMaintenancePro
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks TechFive, I try :)
@LexVance2 жыл бұрын
Good idea with the wasp spray. 😆 I'm going to start carrying. Great video Dave! Go Noles.
@ApartmentMaintenancePro
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Lex!! Hope the football team can be competitive this year!! 🤞
@mastertechnicianmindset2181 Жыл бұрын
Good video. And good repair! That's how we do it
@ApartmentMaintenancePro
Жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy 👍
@frediszamora3800 Жыл бұрын
I had one just like that but l replaced the whole condenser l usually don’t repair them but if there’s no budget you do what you have to do to make it work great video than you so much
@ApartmentMaintenancePro
Жыл бұрын
I would always prefer to swap out the coil or the condenser but I’ve now done so many of these it’s almost just as fast and much more cost effective for smaller unit that don’t require a lot of refrigerant
@JP-zz5rm2 жыл бұрын
Right on Dave!
@ApartmentMaintenancePro
2 жыл бұрын
:)
@Lorenzo699 ай бұрын
Love the video 😊
@ApartmentMaintenancePro
9 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@jamminwrenches860 Жыл бұрын
Good work. I have done many the same way, some I just braze the hole closed. If it can fill a pencil sized hole because I had the torch too hot and close then it can fill a crack.
@ApartmentMaintenancePro
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching 🛠🛠
@zueszues3178 Жыл бұрын
Helll yeah great work
@ApartmentMaintenancePro
Жыл бұрын
😀 Thanks for watching Zues
@mazenkano1811 Жыл бұрын
Real service technician
@ApartmentMaintenancePro
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Mazen !
@cardelelizalde42011 ай бұрын
what is that blue stuff you use to test for leaks?
@juansilicom Жыл бұрын
well done
@ApartmentMaintenancePro
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Juan ⚒️
@erpwnpsn5506 Жыл бұрын
I got a question. I have an Amanda unit similar to what you showed here. I was opening the side doors to clean out the fins. I noticed the top of the condenser fins are pretty banged up. Is that common or normal?
@ApartmentMaintenancePro
Жыл бұрын
They technically should be but I see that a lot on condensers and usually happens when shipped/installed.
@hagakuru Жыл бұрын
Hey Dave, How much would a fix like this typical cost? I have a coil leaking (no longer manufactured) and need a similar type of fix. Just a ballpark figure?
@ApartmentMaintenancePro
Жыл бұрын
All depends on how much refrigerant you need and tools you have. Refrigerant is gonna be the main expense if the system is empty
@LifeWavePatchАй бұрын
Do you live in Las Vegas Dave?
@BridgeWater94 Жыл бұрын
Your they guy in my SkillCat exam stock photos lol
@ApartmentMaintenancePro
Жыл бұрын
I do a little modeling here and there :)
@robertficek75869 ай бұрын
Do Goodman condensers tend to leak? I am considering them since they are readily available but dont know their reliability
@ApartmentMaintenancePro
9 ай бұрын
Depends on year and model and location
@kobie42384 күн бұрын
I installed literally the same exact unit and its leaking from same spot but on the right side of the electrical panel🤦🏽♂️
@MrFunkadeIic Жыл бұрын
My tech just told me that the accumulator and condenser coil are leaking on my MarvAir Mod Pac II. They are gonna order parts. Do you know how much that cost? And would you recommend just getting a new A/C unit instead? This MarvAir Mod Pac II is a wall mounted one and 5 years old.
@ApartmentMaintenancePro
Жыл бұрын
This question is very hard to answer as this is a commercial unit. I dont deal with these anymore but if the coil has a leak most professional companies wont repair them, as there's a liability. I repair leaks because Im in apartment maintenace (residential equipment mostly) and save them a crap ton of money when I do the same repair all the time. I know this answer isn't going to help much but depending on the urgency I would get a second opinion. Then weigh the options.
@MrFunkadeIic
Жыл бұрын
@@ApartmentMaintenancePro The unit is on a 1 bedroom 1 bath unit. It's around 680 sqft. Not really commercial. It's a 2016. But I am thinking the same thing. Why replace parts when there is a chance that during the repairs, something will be done incorrectly and I will have to fork out even more money. Ugh
@user-vu1jv1mw8w10 ай бұрын
a quick question. did it last days or 2 years?
@ApartmentMaintenancePro
10 ай бұрын
This is at an apartment complex I still work at a few days a week. This unit has had zero issues since this fix it’s a solid braze and still holding
@damnitdang Жыл бұрын
You're just cold brazing. Heat it up more and then braze it. You're just melting the rod Onto a colder copper
@ApartmentMaintenancePro
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching !
@borshardsd
10 ай бұрын
@@ApartmentMaintenancePro tech to tech: perfect response to a customer. Ty for the content.
@dcmoor4662 Жыл бұрын
How does this repair effect the system, doesn't it reduce the surface area?
@ApartmentMaintenancePro
Жыл бұрын
I doubt it makes much of a difference
@jamminwrenches860
Жыл бұрын
Technically yes but it's less than 1% of the surface area. A dirty coil has a much larger effect than this kind of repair so I wouldn't worry about it.
@lilmg4444 Жыл бұрын
How is this not a permanent fix? You found and fixed the leak?
@ApartmentMaintenancePro
Жыл бұрын
Your right. This unit hasn’t been changed it’s still holding strong 💪
@Josieman543 Жыл бұрын
When brazing copper aren't you supposed to make the copper red hot then apply the brazing? Not melt it with the flame?
@ApartmentMaintenancePro
Жыл бұрын
Please time stamp the section your referring to so I can answer your question thoroughly.
@damnitdang
Жыл бұрын
Yes,I notice that too. And had commented on it. Need to heat it until copper is at right temp and not just melt the rod onto a colder copper... improper braze that sadly I've seen 80% hvac guys do
@ApartmentMaintenancePro
Жыл бұрын
@@damnitdang ah yes I see what you are talking about now. This is 1/4" to 3/8" something i very rarely ever braze. So easy to burn a hole through that's why Im using the solder prematurely. I know for a fact I'm not the best brazer or even close but alway open to feedback. If it's 3/8 or less I never get it 'red hot' I just dont' see the need with the risk of how easy it is to put a hole through the copper. Which I have done many times. I've been doing this on an off about 20 years now just for reference.
@damnitdang
Жыл бұрын
@@ApartmentMaintenancePro you did much better than the most I've seen. Think of the whole pipe as an heat sink. Don't be afraid to spread the head to an area even if it's not getting sober. It'll help disapate the heat a bit and give you time. Trust me residentail and commercial hvan you have way more room. I work on reefer units. And they are tight. Not open like home ac
@damnitdang
Жыл бұрын
@@ApartmentMaintenancePro once it's kinda red.. and if you stay in that particular area longer.. you can burn through. But even then. It still takes awhile. Or your flame tip is way too close. Once it's red you can back it off acouple inch.. or direct the flame away from the joint. But at the pipe still... disapate the heat while keeping it hot... then that rod will flow into the joint easily.. and Fuze together..
@andersonwinston5361 Жыл бұрын
What is best way to find leak I can hear it
@ApartmentMaintenancePro
Жыл бұрын
soap bubbles
@buddyd.irishsr.564610 ай бұрын
Why didn't you clean up the area below the soldering before he went ahead and melted aluminum around the coils? At least clean it up and make it look better by cutting you back evenly and then putting a heatproof blanket in between aluminum and a piece being soldered! If you want to do a professional job something that you'll be proud of and other people can say you did a good job do it right the first time even though I can't be seen it looks like poop!
@ApartmentMaintenancePro
10 ай бұрын
Hi, thanks for watching. I am very proud of this job as it is still leak free to this day and saved my company about $2000 in vendor costs and $1000 in parts costs..for a couple hours of work. I don't know which video you watched, but there was absolutely no soldering done in this video, again, thanks for watching, if you watched?
@buddyd.irishsr.5646
10 ай бұрын
@@ApartmentMaintenancePro the video I watched it a torch on that piece of pipe that was replaced and heating up the cooling fans attached to the Copper. Soldering or brazing either way there was a torch involved melting the aluminum coils that dissipate the Heat in that video. Other than a Scavenging pards shows that you're very adaptive and very smart and concerned about the customer by saving your money. Other than the George Melton your cooling coils on the copper pipes that's all the rest of the video was perfect
@whodo4893 Жыл бұрын
Clean it up and put some JBWeld on it, let it dry for 24 hours and then turn it on.
@ApartmentMaintenancePro
Жыл бұрын
Nah
@whodo4893
Жыл бұрын
@@ApartmentMaintenancePro Done a few of them and I never had a failure and they lasted till they died.
@GRgaming786 Жыл бұрын
I am Ac mechanic. Please I need the job please sir
@ApartmentMaintenancePro
Жыл бұрын
We are hiring apartment maintenance personnel in Denver Colorado let me know if interested
@sterrname58244 ай бұрын
3:03
@johnnyb86292 жыл бұрын
jesus, you butchered it! The way I repair coil leaks on the tube sheets like that is by using a small hole saw, 5/8' , turn the drill bit around in the hole saw backwards and use a drill. Unsweat the tube going in and then stick the drill and hole saw combo into the open tube and the hole saw will cut a nice round metal slug from around the tube. The crack will be exposed and you can simply expand the tube and reconnect and paint the hole tube with brazing rod and its fixed and doesn't look like you took a hatchet to it.
@ApartmentMaintenancePro
2 жыл бұрын
I can’t picture this in my head can you link to anything similar? Also checked this the other day as I work this property often, repair is still covered, still leak free
@lonestarstate1981
Жыл бұрын
@@ApartmentMaintenancePro omg you butchered it lol you got it done bro and it ain't leaking. Where abouts are located at as far as state or city
@cooldude22458 ай бұрын
Techs can do this but I got the it’s not worth it, just buy a new one
@mbrawn650511 күн бұрын
Why waste time video taping how to if you don’t show ever step!!
@Alejandro-vb2fx Жыл бұрын
Yikes man, need to do a little practicing on your brazing technique, you’re supposed to put heat into the pipe or fitting and the rod will flow into the gap you don’t melt the rod with the torch, I understand it’s a small diameter pipe but there’s a way to do it properly, it will probably leak again and Goodmans are cheaply made that’s all I used to work on when I was a maintenance tech. And yes I know kinda what I’m talking about, I’m currently a residential HVAC tech and have been for 3 years and am also former property maintenance supervisor for a large property management company that owns many large multi family housing properties (apartments). I’m not trying to belittle your work I would just hate for you to have to do that over again because of a failed braze joint.
@ApartmentMaintenancePro
Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the critique it’s all good. It’s been two years since this repair was made and it’s still holding. It’s almost impossible to get a perfect braze on film out in the field with the wind blowing and trying to film at the same time. I can assure you the braze joint is good and will not leak. I’ve done it thousands of times - I’ve been doing AC repairs for almost 20 years now and worked as a professional for 5 of those years along side of some of the smartest techs I’ve ever worked with. It’s not the prettiest and sure there are flaws but that condenser coil isn’t leaking at that spot again (I would have preferred to replace the coil of course but you budget stuff from management)
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Lol, you did great dude. These guys talking about red hot don't know shit about how thin condenser tube is. If it gets red hot you just punched a hole. I thought your torch control was spot on. Keep up the good work.
@ApartmentMaintenancePro
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Stan appreciate it!
Thanks from Bangladesh.
Well done, Dave! Got to do what you got to do... God bless!!!
@ApartmentMaintenancePro
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Truth :)
Back in the day when I worked for some apartments they had all of these same Goodmans. Great units but this is the same leak I would run into. I would also fix them. Good times.
@ApartmentMaintenancePro
Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear that! Crazy how they manufactured so many of these leakers
You are good at what you do man
@ApartmentMaintenancePro
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks TechFive, I try :)
Good idea with the wasp spray. 😆 I'm going to start carrying. Great video Dave! Go Noles.
@ApartmentMaintenancePro
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Lex!! Hope the football team can be competitive this year!! 🤞
Good video. And good repair! That's how we do it
@ApartmentMaintenancePro
Жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy 👍
I had one just like that but l replaced the whole condenser l usually don’t repair them but if there’s no budget you do what you have to do to make it work great video than you so much
@ApartmentMaintenancePro
Жыл бұрын
I would always prefer to swap out the coil or the condenser but I’ve now done so many of these it’s almost just as fast and much more cost effective for smaller unit that don’t require a lot of refrigerant
Right on Dave!
@ApartmentMaintenancePro
2 жыл бұрын
:)
Love the video 😊
@ApartmentMaintenancePro
9 ай бұрын
Thanks!
Good work. I have done many the same way, some I just braze the hole closed. If it can fill a pencil sized hole because I had the torch too hot and close then it can fill a crack.
@ApartmentMaintenancePro
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching 🛠🛠
Helll yeah great work
@ApartmentMaintenancePro
Жыл бұрын
😀 Thanks for watching Zues
Real service technician
@ApartmentMaintenancePro
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Mazen !
what is that blue stuff you use to test for leaks?
well done
@ApartmentMaintenancePro
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Juan ⚒️
I got a question. I have an Amanda unit similar to what you showed here. I was opening the side doors to clean out the fins. I noticed the top of the condenser fins are pretty banged up. Is that common or normal?
@ApartmentMaintenancePro
Жыл бұрын
They technically should be but I see that a lot on condensers and usually happens when shipped/installed.
Hey Dave, How much would a fix like this typical cost? I have a coil leaking (no longer manufactured) and need a similar type of fix. Just a ballpark figure?
@ApartmentMaintenancePro
Жыл бұрын
All depends on how much refrigerant you need and tools you have. Refrigerant is gonna be the main expense if the system is empty
Do you live in Las Vegas Dave?
Your they guy in my SkillCat exam stock photos lol
@ApartmentMaintenancePro
Жыл бұрын
I do a little modeling here and there :)
Do Goodman condensers tend to leak? I am considering them since they are readily available but dont know their reliability
@ApartmentMaintenancePro
9 ай бұрын
Depends on year and model and location
I installed literally the same exact unit and its leaking from same spot but on the right side of the electrical panel🤦🏽♂️
My tech just told me that the accumulator and condenser coil are leaking on my MarvAir Mod Pac II. They are gonna order parts. Do you know how much that cost? And would you recommend just getting a new A/C unit instead? This MarvAir Mod Pac II is a wall mounted one and 5 years old.
@ApartmentMaintenancePro
Жыл бұрын
This question is very hard to answer as this is a commercial unit. I dont deal with these anymore but if the coil has a leak most professional companies wont repair them, as there's a liability. I repair leaks because Im in apartment maintenace (residential equipment mostly) and save them a crap ton of money when I do the same repair all the time. I know this answer isn't going to help much but depending on the urgency I would get a second opinion. Then weigh the options.
@MrFunkadeIic
Жыл бұрын
@@ApartmentMaintenancePro The unit is on a 1 bedroom 1 bath unit. It's around 680 sqft. Not really commercial. It's a 2016. But I am thinking the same thing. Why replace parts when there is a chance that during the repairs, something will be done incorrectly and I will have to fork out even more money. Ugh
a quick question. did it last days or 2 years?
@ApartmentMaintenancePro
10 ай бұрын
This is at an apartment complex I still work at a few days a week. This unit has had zero issues since this fix it’s a solid braze and still holding
You're just cold brazing. Heat it up more and then braze it. You're just melting the rod Onto a colder copper
@ApartmentMaintenancePro
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching !
@borshardsd
10 ай бұрын
@@ApartmentMaintenancePro tech to tech: perfect response to a customer. Ty for the content.
How does this repair effect the system, doesn't it reduce the surface area?
@ApartmentMaintenancePro
Жыл бұрын
I doubt it makes much of a difference
@jamminwrenches860
Жыл бұрын
Technically yes but it's less than 1% of the surface area. A dirty coil has a much larger effect than this kind of repair so I wouldn't worry about it.
How is this not a permanent fix? You found and fixed the leak?
@ApartmentMaintenancePro
Жыл бұрын
Your right. This unit hasn’t been changed it’s still holding strong 💪
When brazing copper aren't you supposed to make the copper red hot then apply the brazing? Not melt it with the flame?
@ApartmentMaintenancePro
Жыл бұрын
Please time stamp the section your referring to so I can answer your question thoroughly.
@damnitdang
Жыл бұрын
Yes,I notice that too. And had commented on it. Need to heat it until copper is at right temp and not just melt the rod onto a colder copper... improper braze that sadly I've seen 80% hvac guys do
@ApartmentMaintenancePro
Жыл бұрын
@@damnitdang ah yes I see what you are talking about now. This is 1/4" to 3/8" something i very rarely ever braze. So easy to burn a hole through that's why Im using the solder prematurely. I know for a fact I'm not the best brazer or even close but alway open to feedback. If it's 3/8 or less I never get it 'red hot' I just dont' see the need with the risk of how easy it is to put a hole through the copper. Which I have done many times. I've been doing this on an off about 20 years now just for reference.
@damnitdang
Жыл бұрын
@@ApartmentMaintenancePro you did much better than the most I've seen. Think of the whole pipe as an heat sink. Don't be afraid to spread the head to an area even if it's not getting sober. It'll help disapate the heat a bit and give you time. Trust me residentail and commercial hvan you have way more room. I work on reefer units. And they are tight. Not open like home ac
@damnitdang
Жыл бұрын
@@ApartmentMaintenancePro once it's kinda red.. and if you stay in that particular area longer.. you can burn through. But even then. It still takes awhile. Or your flame tip is way too close. Once it's red you can back it off acouple inch.. or direct the flame away from the joint. But at the pipe still... disapate the heat while keeping it hot... then that rod will flow into the joint easily.. and Fuze together..
What is best way to find leak I can hear it
@ApartmentMaintenancePro
Жыл бұрын
soap bubbles
Why didn't you clean up the area below the soldering before he went ahead and melted aluminum around the coils? At least clean it up and make it look better by cutting you back evenly and then putting a heatproof blanket in between aluminum and a piece being soldered! If you want to do a professional job something that you'll be proud of and other people can say you did a good job do it right the first time even though I can't be seen it looks like poop!
@ApartmentMaintenancePro
10 ай бұрын
Hi, thanks for watching. I am very proud of this job as it is still leak free to this day and saved my company about $2000 in vendor costs and $1000 in parts costs..for a couple hours of work. I don't know which video you watched, but there was absolutely no soldering done in this video, again, thanks for watching, if you watched?
@buddyd.irishsr.5646
10 ай бұрын
@@ApartmentMaintenancePro the video I watched it a torch on that piece of pipe that was replaced and heating up the cooling fans attached to the Copper. Soldering or brazing either way there was a torch involved melting the aluminum coils that dissipate the Heat in that video. Other than a Scavenging pards shows that you're very adaptive and very smart and concerned about the customer by saving your money. Other than the George Melton your cooling coils on the copper pipes that's all the rest of the video was perfect
Clean it up and put some JBWeld on it, let it dry for 24 hours and then turn it on.
@ApartmentMaintenancePro
Жыл бұрын
Nah
@whodo4893
Жыл бұрын
@@ApartmentMaintenancePro Done a few of them and I never had a failure and they lasted till they died.
I am Ac mechanic. Please I need the job please sir
@ApartmentMaintenancePro
Жыл бұрын
We are hiring apartment maintenance personnel in Denver Colorado let me know if interested
3:03
jesus, you butchered it! The way I repair coil leaks on the tube sheets like that is by using a small hole saw, 5/8' , turn the drill bit around in the hole saw backwards and use a drill. Unsweat the tube going in and then stick the drill and hole saw combo into the open tube and the hole saw will cut a nice round metal slug from around the tube. The crack will be exposed and you can simply expand the tube and reconnect and paint the hole tube with brazing rod and its fixed and doesn't look like you took a hatchet to it.
@ApartmentMaintenancePro
2 жыл бұрын
I can’t picture this in my head can you link to anything similar? Also checked this the other day as I work this property often, repair is still covered, still leak free
@lonestarstate1981
Жыл бұрын
@@ApartmentMaintenancePro omg you butchered it lol you got it done bro and it ain't leaking. Where abouts are located at as far as state or city
Techs can do this but I got the it’s not worth it, just buy a new one
Why waste time video taping how to if you don’t show ever step!!
Yikes man, need to do a little practicing on your brazing technique, you’re supposed to put heat into the pipe or fitting and the rod will flow into the gap you don’t melt the rod with the torch, I understand it’s a small diameter pipe but there’s a way to do it properly, it will probably leak again and Goodmans are cheaply made that’s all I used to work on when I was a maintenance tech. And yes I know kinda what I’m talking about, I’m currently a residential HVAC tech and have been for 3 years and am also former property maintenance supervisor for a large property management company that owns many large multi family housing properties (apartments). I’m not trying to belittle your work I would just hate for you to have to do that over again because of a failed braze joint.
@ApartmentMaintenancePro
Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the critique it’s all good. It’s been two years since this repair was made and it’s still holding. It’s almost impossible to get a perfect braze on film out in the field with the wind blowing and trying to film at the same time. I can assure you the braze joint is good and will not leak. I’ve done it thousands of times - I’ve been doing AC repairs for almost 20 years now and worked as a professional for 5 of those years along side of some of the smartest techs I’ve ever worked with. It’s not the prettiest and sure there are flaws but that condenser coil isn’t leaking at that spot again (I would have preferred to replace the coil of course but you budget stuff from management)