"Plunk test." I've never heard of that until just seeing your video. I will begin incorporating that tomorrow. I just got a few thousand Unis Ginex primers, and so far they are working great for me. Great video, thank you!

@DummyRound

2 жыл бұрын

Gotta make sure it will "plunk" in each barrel you plan to shoot them out of, for pistol, at least. This will guarantee you have proper room in any chamber those rounds will be going through. I don't think I've had any of the Unis Ginex primers fail out of 3000 that I've loaded and tried so far. For the money, I can't complain. Thanks for watching!

Great video and loading station. Sure outdoes my single stage and turret press, haha. Looking forward to your testing footage of these XTPs. Be safe out there.

@DummyRound

3 жыл бұрын

Thank ya, sir! It is nice, but I use my single stage press just as much. They all have their positives and negatives, this is just another way. Hoping to get to the range this weekend, so we will see! 👍🇺🇸👊

You can have my share of those Ginex primers. I find them to be oversized and very hard to seat with a lot of flattened out primers. I have experienced several misfires with them. Some seat fine and some don't.

@DummyRound

4 ай бұрын

Mine have always gone bang, but they are very annoying to work with. They're at the back of the stock pile until I have no other options 🤣

I enjoyed your video and appreciate you sharing the Bosnian primer recommendation. I guess I need a tactical primer flip tray.

@DummyRound

2 жыл бұрын

Haha thanks for watching! The Match Grade Tactical Primer Flip Tray is a must have on your bench - they're known to reduce group size by at least an amount!

Great video!

@DummyRound

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you and Happy New Year!

I would try those primers if I could find them. I love me some Hornady XTP’s!!🤠👍🏼

@DummyRound

3 жыл бұрын

On my way to test them now! 👊🇺🇸👍

Thanks for the video, although I mainly shoot cast lead in my 9's my local shop carries the XTP line of handgun bullets and I couldn't pass picking up a couple boxes of the 9 mm 115 gr. XTP bullets. I prefer the 124 gr. but for $17 a box I'm not picky, waiting on some nickel plated brass to arrive to load them up.

@DummyRound

3 жыл бұрын

I shoot 90% cast, but got these for free from their promotion. I would prefer 124 or 147 varieties, but we can find some of those later. $17 a box is a great price 👍🇺🇸👊

Plunk approved 👍🍻

@DummyRound

3 жыл бұрын

Total plunkage achieved 👊🇺🇸👍

Great vid ! ..."suck it nerd" that's what we say at work when someone screws up 😜

@DummyRound

3 жыл бұрын

Haha I say it at work too!

What were you testing when you dropped the ammunition in the barrel at 5:11

@DummyRound

Жыл бұрын

Called the "plunk test" to see if the round can easily chamber and extract.

Thanks for the video! I was wondering how Longshot would work. My goal is to reload an accurate 115gr round that performs well through a sub compact (3 inch) barrel. I also carry a Hellcat, and a Kimber Micro 9. I ran your recipe through my QuickLoad Ballistic program, and did a theoretical ladder test with other grain weights. Of course, you need to do an ACTUAL ladder test, over a chronograph, to verify these results. Since I can't post pictures, I will type out some of the results. 9mm Lugar, 3" barrel, 115gr XTP, COAL of 1.165" Small pistol primer, case lenght .754" MAX PSI 35,000 5.9gr Longshot: case fill capacity 57.4% Muzzle velocity 913fps, Chamber pressure 18,356 psi. 79% of propellant burnt. 6.5gr Longshot: case fill capacity 63.3% Muzzle velocity 305fps. Chamber pressure 22,638 psi. 83.57% propellant burnt. 7 gr Longshot: case fill capacity 68.3% Muzzle velocity 327fps. Chamber pressure 26,798 psi. 87% propellant burnt. There are gaps in the weight, which equate to pressure changes. My COAL is shorter, because it also increases pressure. I like to see case fill in the 80% range and muzzle velocity over 300fps, as thats the min needed for proper expansion. Tweeking the powder to 7.1gr kicks thing up into a better range, but 7.3gr starts getting dangerous. I believe the sweet spot is somewhere between 6.5gr - 7.0gr. !!REMEMBER!! this are theoretical velocities and must be ladder tested for safety. They are also estimated through a 3" barrel. Longer barrels will change both pressure and velocity, but still remain in the safe zone, in a 4.7" barrel. I have been pouring over these number for a week or two, and plan on doing my own ladder test in the up coming week. Good luck, stay safe and happy reloading!

@DummyRound

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the detailed comment. I seated them shorter until they plunked easily in both guns and went with 5.9gr as Hornady listed 6.0gr as max. The case fill was nearly at the bottom of the projectiles. Could probably work up a bit higher, but longer barrels would probably work better with this 'slower' powder for 9mm. It seemed like the extra inch of barrel only gave ~20-40fps gain in velocity between the two bullets. Also weird to note the shorter barrel gave better ES/SD numbers. Accuracy was as good as I could shoot it off hand. Cases were slightly dirty. My chronograph data from 5 shots were as follows: 115gr Berrys Plated w/ 5.9gr Longshot @ 83F -Ruger P95 1061fps avg 70fps ES 30 fps SD -Hellcat 1043fps avg 16fps ES 6fps SD 115gr Hdy XTP w/ 5.9gr Longshot @ 83F -Ruger P95 1099 fps avg 30fps ES 13fps SD -Hellcat 1058fps avg 30fps ES 10fps SD Thanks.

@Loader138

2 жыл бұрын

@@DummyRound thanks for the chrono numbers. I loaded 5 rounds of each, starting at 5.9, going up to 6.5gr. Hope to shoot them today. QuickLoad is very handy, but I do agree with your observations on case fill. 6.5gr seems to be the max full without compression.

@jacobwilbert1018

2 жыл бұрын

I guess im just wondering what reason somebody would choose this, not to mention out of a compact barrel. I could see if that was the only powder you really have in your possession, and in that case sure. There is really no other excuse unless you just dont know any better. I guess it is good for real world testing to know if you really had to for some end times scenario that it will work.

@DummyRound

2 жыл бұрын

It gave the best numbers from the powders I had on hand in GRT, and it's not the only length barrel I was testing it in. Not the best option, not the worst. What do you suggest specifically for a short barrel like the Hellcat?

@jacobwilbert1018

2 жыл бұрын

@@DummyRound obviously titegroup especially in lighter bullets but i could understand if those pressures make folks nervous or its just not getting you over the top but people leave alot on the table when it comes to titegroup. For plinking and defensive loads i would lean toward Power Pistol or CFE pistol. I know PP isnt always available but CFE is almost always. They are gonna give the velocity with a good clean full burn n not blowing half of it out all over ur chronograph. Winchester 231 is also a good all around but i find it leaves goldish colored grains in my brass n gear that i dont care for but it does perform. Also XTPs perform very well and dont require the rediculous velocities that some hollow points do. Im sure you probably know most of this by now

Long shot sounds simular to alliant powerpistol, were the primers cheaper and we're they an online order?

@DummyRound

3 жыл бұрын

Got them locally using the good ole barter system. I want to try some Power Pistol, but those Alliant powders are hard to find these days. Thanks for watching 👍🇺🇸👊

@leadbullets4life

3 жыл бұрын

About five years ago I bought 4 lb keg of power pistol for $110 and I still have over a pound left and it's work anywhere for my 32s all the way up to my 45 I used it for my 38 shorts my 38 Super police 200 grain loads and it's worked great in the 40 Smith & Wesson or my 10mm shorts and of course I have my hp-38 as my all-around go to powder. The weekends here and I have another 40 caliber shoot tomorrow with the power pistol so a new video tomorrow.

@DummyRound

3 жыл бұрын

@@leadbullets4life awesome! I'll be watching that. Hopefully your package will be showing up soon 😉🇺🇸👊

@leadbullets4life

3 жыл бұрын

@@DummyRound 😄wooo whoooo !!! Happy 💃 dance

Any input on those primers where you found them.

@DummyRound

3 жыл бұрын

Ancient Chinese secret 😉

Never seen those primers. How hard are they? Could maybe use in 223? 🤔 I lucked out the other day and found a brick of CCI 500 at Bass Pro for $65

@keithmilbradt8292

3 жыл бұрын

Been using some small pistol magnum primers in 223 and they work fine in mini 14, no punctures or over pressure signs,accuracy the same as small rifle primers.

@DummyRound

3 жыл бұрын

I'll have to test that and see!

@DummyRound

3 жыл бұрын

These aren't magnums, but I did read they were a bit harder than "normal" pistol primers. Whatever that means.

Sir I have that same press ,and I'm going to use that load . Ive been using the Dillon 550 for almost 30 yrs now . And I have always had issues with the seating die . So can you tell me what seating die you are using please ?

@DummyRound

5 ай бұрын

Lee Carbide Sizing die, Dillon powder through/expander, RCBS taper crimp/seater combo backed out to not crimp, Lee Carbide Factory Crimp Die in the last station. Hope that helps. You can probably work up a hotter load than I picked, but start low. Thanks! 🤘🇺🇲

@maduro169

5 ай бұрын

Thank you very much ,

@DummyRound

5 ай бұрын

@@maduro169 enjoy!

Do yourself a HUGE favor and get the roller handle. What a difference when loading in volume...

@DummyRound

2 жыл бұрын

It's on the list! Thanks brother👍🇺🇸👊

I have the "Para-Takedown-Commando" MK II , flip tray, lol.

@DummyRound

3 жыл бұрын

Top notch, sir! I haven't seen those anywhere lately🤣

Milk jug test? Great vid!!

@DummyRound

3 жыл бұрын

I wish!! My range doesn't allow anything fun like that 😪 Thanks for watching👍👊🇺🇸

Great video I’m totally new at reloading and i’m reloading 115 hollow point 9mm but my book says overall length is 1.169 and it just don’t look right! I see your at 107

@DummyRound

9 ай бұрын

1.169 is just the maximum OAL of the cartridge, Hornady calls for 1.075 for their XTP. They have a flat nose, so won't stick out as far as an FMJ/round nose of the same weight👍🇺🇲

@seanpacificrailroad3700

9 ай бұрын

@@DummyRound You rock thank you so much 👍

@DummyRound

9 ай бұрын

Yessir!

I've never heard of or seen those primers before . Is there some collusion going on ?

@DummyRound

3 жыл бұрын

I am in fact in bed with the Bosnians. Nothing to see here.

@reloader7sixtwo

3 жыл бұрын

Awhile back before everything went stupid Graf & Sons carried those primer. I have read good reports on them and if they were available locally I wouldn't hesitate to buy them.

@DummyRound

3 жыл бұрын

This is my first go with them. Traded for them locally, so I have no idea where they actually originated.

@reloader7sixtwo

3 жыл бұрын

​@@DummyRound If I remember you had to buy them in lots of 5K but they were like $25 a brick once the cost equaled out.

@DummyRound

3 жыл бұрын

The last 2.5c primers the Earth ever saw!

Ginex has poor quality control, some batches work just fine while others have several duds in them. For budget primers I buy Magtech or Sellier&Bellot. They say Magtech especially has hard primer cups but I never had any problems with those, maybe its only an issue when using reduced strength hammer springs in sports pistols.

@DummyRound

2 жыл бұрын

I haven't had any issues yet, maybe I got a good batch. I only read good reviews while doing a bit of research, but I'll keep an eye out. I have seen people get a box of 5000 loose primers with no sleeves or anything protecting them, maybe those are more exposed or something? Thanks for the comment 👍👊🇺🇸

who uses vihtavuori n350 slow handgun powder ? 9mm reloading . 115 gn 5.7 gn load AOL 1.140

@DummyRound

5 ай бұрын

I haven't used any VV pistol powders, but they all seem very capable👍🇺🇸

were these ever shot?

@DummyRound

2 жыл бұрын

I have a range report video somewhere... but chrono data on the phone with 5 shot strings Ruger P95 avg 1099fps SD 13 Hellcat avg 1058fps SD 10

@1717jbs

2 жыл бұрын

@@DummyRound Thanks!

@DummyRound

2 жыл бұрын

Yessir! Enjoy 👍👊🇺🇸

Where was the test?! Homie I clicked to see a test.

@DummyRound

9 ай бұрын

There should be a range report to follow up with the results somewhere. I think these were moving 1080fps?🇺🇲👍

If you would have just flipped the primers from the package into the top portion you would not of had to flip them in the bottom portion.

@DummyRound

4 ай бұрын

I never claimed to be a smart man👍

@thetexasrat

4 ай бұрын

@@DummyRound got to wonder why they made the tool.

@DummyRound

4 ай бұрын

@@thetexasrat very rarely are they all orientated the same way

@thetexasrat

4 ай бұрын

@ound So far all my Federal and CCIs have been oriented properly, but that could change. Anyway it is always a good idea to have a solution to a problem before it presents itself I reckon. Kind of like the bullet pullers and stuck case removers.

@thetexasrat

4 ай бұрын

@@DummyRound So far all of my Federal and CCI primers have been oriented correctly, but I know that could easily change without notice. Anyway I guess it is always a good thing to have a solution to a problem before it exists. Kind of like the bullet pullers and stuck case removers.

I don't really care about watching your dillon work. I clicked on the vid to see the performance of the round and recipe and didnt get that the the title led me to think i would. Thumbs down.

@DummyRound

6 ай бұрын

Thanks for the feedback