The OUTRAGE in Rich’s voice when he finds out that Terminator: Salvation doesn’t use the same future template as T1 and T2.

@Szokynyovics

2 жыл бұрын

Scrolled into the comments to find this comment when he yelled "WHAT THE FUCK?!" :D Thank you!

@TheDapperSwindler

2 жыл бұрын

Just like everyone who saw the film

@thebeggarsdice6020

2 жыл бұрын

I actually thought Salvation was a damn good Terminator movie, at least better than T3. It's not a popular opinion but I believe Salvation has its merits.

@TheDapperSwindler

2 жыл бұрын

@@thebeggarsdice6020 For me Salvation's original sin was throwing the previous films' depiction of the future war out the window. They had great source material to build off of and just went "naahhh, let's go with generic action movie schlock instead". Though saying that I really liked Anton Yelchin's Kyle Reese. Easily the best part of the movie.

@thebeggarsdice6020

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheDapperSwindler Yeah I miss Anton Yeltchin. Was a real tragedy what happened to him. I sorta had a head-cannon that the future we saw in Salvation was a transitional time period between modern era warfare and the blue tinted plasma gun sythwave apocalypse vision depicted in Terminator 1, though I was really really disappointed we didn't get to see the Resistance capture some phased plasma rifles in the 40 watt range and use them in the finale battle of the movie. Lotta potential like that was wasted in Salvation.

I love how this is around six years old and they're talking about Avatar 2 as if it's gonna come out any day now.

@MisterAnonymous1000

2 жыл бұрын

That's because James Cameron is constantly reassuring Hollywood that he's going to make it. I believe him some what, but I won't be disappointed if he doesn't deliver. I would rather he step away from the filmmaking scene altogether.

@mr.onethirtyeight5088

2 жыл бұрын

Is that still happening? There’s always conflicting info.

@Sireth

2 жыл бұрын

Current release date is December 16, 2022. Let's see if it holds.

@pjdolont9012

2 жыл бұрын

I love how the term "practical " has become meaningless .

@darricshhh

2 жыл бұрын

Any day now

One of the best things about the Terminator is that it’s an intelligent machine but it’s not intelligent enough to have soft skills like effective communication or subtlety. It’s pretty damaged by the second half of the film with white skin that’s rotting and no eyebrows. Everyone who sees it, recoils in fear but the machine keeps walking around like “I’ve got this. Nobody suspects a thing.”

@romulusnuma116

3 жыл бұрын

And no one does

@kingsleycy3450

2 жыл бұрын

Arnold's limited English really added to that. The Terminator could barely speak. It's humourous but also deeply uncanny.

@steeltimberwolf

2 жыл бұрын

Remember that the Terminator's outward appearance was designed to just get the Terminator into the door of the Human resistance locations in order to kill everyone inside. The Terminators really only needed limited verbal skills to just get their foot in the door before just starting killing every Human they could see. When Reese says that these kind of Terminators were designed for infiltration, he meant of his time period not of the modern world. Good enough for the war torn ravages of a post apocalyptic world but not really the best for a world filled with billions of Humans.

@Turtleproof

2 жыл бұрын

Eh, its pretty smart and defined by T2. Everyone whines about how humanized it becomes but that's the point, it is a learning machine that adapts and blends in to better exterminate people. There's even deleted scenes where Ahnolt is even goofier as it tries to mimic people.

@Lowclef

2 жыл бұрын

@@Turtleproof “I need a vacation?” Wtf was that line?

I like how Kyle Reese never turns on his headlights, because why would he? You don't dare drive with lights in the future. And since originally Skynet activated in 1997, using a phone book was not a skill lost in time as it would be now.

@lewislabuff8862

Жыл бұрын

Kyle Reese is excellent in Terminator 1, I like that the guy from the dystopian future is this incredibly spry, essentially crackhead, much like 12 monkeys.

@sweetreamer5101

Жыл бұрын

I wanted to double check this so I went back and watched all the car scenes where Reese is driving, and it seems you're right. Even when other cars use their lights he doesn't. However there is one shot where James Cameron fucked up continuity (or thought it looked better with headlights) where Reese pulls out of the parking structure after they switched cars and he has the headlights on just just a couple shots before they switch back off for the rest of the chase.

The endoskeleton is a T-800 and the Arnold skin/likeness is considered model 101 to clarify.

@KnuckleHunkybuck

3 жыл бұрын

He speaks the line in T2 saying "I'm a Cyberdyne Systems Model 101 Series 800."

@janefkrbtt

3 жыл бұрын

@@KnuckleHunkybuck u remember more from the movies than James Cameron

@KnuckleHunkybuck

3 жыл бұрын

@@janefkrbtt I'm sure I watched T2 more times than him, even though he had to watch it for editing purposes. I used to watch it at least once a week back in the early-mid '90s. At one point, I could quote every line right along with the movie in realtime.

@abstractdaddy1384

3 жыл бұрын

@@KnuckleHunkybuck He doesn't say "series 800".

@willardfasto4494

Жыл бұрын

Ñnnnnnnnnneeeeeerrrrrrrrrdddddd

7 entire minutes before Mike referenced TNG, this has got to be some sort of record.

The Terminator is an excellent stand alone movie.

@jimm7346

3 жыл бұрын

NUH UH TERMIN8R 3 IS DA BEST!!!1one

@DeLorean4

3 жыл бұрын

Star Wars and Indiana Jones are my favorite trilogies.

@CptChandler

3 жыл бұрын

So is T2

@mar10ssj1

3 жыл бұрын

What made Terminator so good was its simplicity. Killer robot from the future out to terminate young woman in the present. That's it. Sprinkle some backstory and BOOM, movie classic. T2 is the same formula just BIGGER. Everything afterward just takes the story and overly complicates it to the point of nausea.

@roarimatrex

3 жыл бұрын

Is this it ? Is it the review ?

Arnold is actually only 6 ft 1, but they always manage to make him look taller with boots and angles.

@tomwells8093

2 жыл бұрын

He's not that tall. He has listed himself at that height but in his early body building days he entered competitions at 5'10. I dont think he's growing 3 inches when he's almost 30 years old. He wears lifts in his shoes and was made to seem bigger for the Hollywood perspective. Hes 5'10 if not shorter now because of his body and age

@gnomeam

2 жыл бұрын

@@tomwells8093 No way he was 5'10. You can see plenty of footage and photos of him barefoot in bodybuilding competitions, standing next to other guys. He was definitely at least 6'. His earliest entries at competition (powerlifting briefly, and bodybuilding) happened before he finished puberty, so he could have grown a little.

@EpictheEpicest

2 жыл бұрын

He's 6'2", he's always been 6'2", they even say it in one of the first lines of dialogue in Pumping Iron. Where the he'll you get 6'1" and 5'10" I don't understand when you can just Google "how tall is Arnold Schwarzenegger"

@EpictheEpicest

2 жыл бұрын

@The Elder Agree ^ and the reason Ferrigno made a good 'antagonist' so to speak is that he was bigger and taller than the biggest guy (Arnold) at the time, and also a mr universe champion

@spillanegottleib1681

2 жыл бұрын

This is still debated for some reason, how hard was it to just get Arnie to stand against a wall for ten seconds and draw a line at the top of his head. I've met him and Lou in person, I'll guess he was 6 feet even at his peak, which is 9.5 inches taller than most male pro bodybuilders. Lou is a legitimate 6'5".

Terminator and Terminator 2 are both great. I wouldn't even say T2 is "the same movie" so much as it hits its action beats at the same times as T1. Sarah's arc in T2 is pretty different, IMO.

@YurrWhat

2 жыл бұрын

Its just like alien and aliens, where the first was a thriller and the second was an action movie lol

@muccmaster

2 жыл бұрын

I love the RLM guys, but they have some awful taste in movies and nitpick at the dumbest things.

@michaelbooth2890

2 жыл бұрын

I compare T1 and T2 to The Evil Dead 1 & 2. The sequels are what they really wanted to do if they had the budget.

@xpurplethighs7596

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I have no idea what they are talking about with it being the same movie.

@neurohack9038

2 жыл бұрын

It’s the same movie.

Man, Data VS Terminator would actually be a crazy fight.

@ourkeving

3 жыл бұрын

I want to hear more with them spinning the story and correcting each other.

@GeorgeGrekOFF

3 жыл бұрын

My money is on Data. He should be as strong as a terminator, i think, but a lot smarter.

@steeltimberwolf

2 жыл бұрын

@@GeorgeGrekOFF I don't know, Data has a edge in intelligence and that he's made with non-Earth materials, but we do have to consider that the Terminators were designed for combat where Date wasn't. I remember when Data was shot by a arrow from Counselor Troi, with a recurve bow that damaged his secondary sub-processor. If you watch that scene it looks like the arrow went in about 6"-8".

@GeorgeGrekOFF

2 жыл бұрын

@@steeltimberwolf You have a point. In any case, even though i love the first 2 terminator, i lika Star Trek more, so i am biased and id root for Data.

@logandh2

2 жыл бұрын

@@steeltimberwolf I don’t really know much about Star Trek and especially Data, but from what I understand he’s basically a supercomputer in human form, who is also much stronger and more durable than a human, so I think he would instantly be able to see a Terminator’s weaknesses and exploit them. Like the thing whoever did in Salvation, I genuinely don’t remember what it was or who did it, but I remember someone jammed a screwdriver or something into a terminator’s neck and made it go blind because it damaged a thing. Data would probably be able to clock any weaknesses like that instantly and have the physical capacity to exploit them while being smart and agile enough to keep himself from being damaged in the process

The idea of having guns inside of a body to travel through time was actually used in the Terminator Dark Horse comics that came out before T2 even existed. Those early comics are excellent, btw.

@PaulStringini

3 жыл бұрын

I don't understand why they don't just send the guns in a dead pig or something.

@KabukiKid

3 жыл бұрын

@@PaulStringini In the comic, there was a story with three terminators traveling back in time and they took a human prisoner and did quick surgery to him and implanted a futuristic handgun in his gut and brought him along. As soon as they got to the past, they ripped it from his gut.

@PaulStringini

3 жыл бұрын

@@KabukiKid Ah, I guess one should expect that comic writers would work out the possibilities a bit more thoroughly.

@PaulStringini

3 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure when that comic was out,, but when I was a kid, my favorite comic was published by Dark Horse (I believe). That would be Flaming Carrot.

@KabukiKid

3 жыл бұрын

@@PaulStringini I loved Flaming Carrot too! I still have my issues! lol :-)

They forgot that Christian Bale plays him too lmao

@wyattritter14

3 жыл бұрын

But that's a different guy!

@Vaporvice84

3 жыл бұрын

So did everyone else.

@ScarFace5566

3 жыл бұрын

That’s because Rich Evans was the crew member from Bale’s RANT!!!

@360.Tapestry

3 жыл бұрын

@@wyattritter14 ron donner?!?

@ever-openingflower8737

3 жыл бұрын

I want to know, when did Colm Meaney (Miles O'Brien) play John Connor? Did I miss something? The way this was edited, they are saying he played him too lmao

I don't know why you'd have to limit your love to either t1 or t2; both are excellent for different reasons.

@tylerdordon99

2 жыл бұрын

I totally agree. T1 is an action sci fi filmed like a slasher film and T2 is an awesome action Sci Fi adventure film.

@spillanegottleib1681

2 жыл бұрын

My favorite is T1.333, change my mind.

@darrenthetuber743

2 жыл бұрын

T 1000 is far more scary I think, cuz the Terminator in the first one is essentially a robot Jason, where the T 1000 is by more the original intention, an effective unassuming killing cyborg, he is emotionless, but unlike Arnold, there is relentlessness and pychopathic coldness to him. I guess the one flaw with T1000 is he seems more like a serial killer than a killing machine, but I think because the T1000 is far better at replicating a human than the Arnold Terminator, as he's an inferior model

@josiahbahuaud2294

2 жыл бұрын

Like Alien and Aliens.

@Teddyisoffline

Жыл бұрын

i think t1 is a better terminator film but t2 is a better action film

They should actually do a real Star Trek movie commentary with Jay. He'd probably enjoy The Wrath of Khan.

@nicholassingleton6488

9 ай бұрын

jay would probably even like the motion picture

Arnold is actually a T-800 MODEL 101

@FutureDeep

3 жыл бұрын

Yep. T-800 is the machine. Model 101 is the skin.

@MrMightyZ

3 жыл бұрын

@@FutureDeep In T1 he was just a “Cyberdyne Systems model 101” The T-800 designation and 101 referring to the model that looked like Arnie was all part of Cameron’s retconn so they could have Arnie in the sequel. JC never thought they’d make a sequel when he did T1. But JC can do whatever he wants because I’ll always buy a ticket🤓

@RazorsEdge701

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrMightyZ The fact that there's something called a T-600 is established in this movie with Kyle's speech about them having rubber skin and Arnold's series being new and more convincing, so maybe Cameron always intended "T-800" to be a term and just didn't put it out into the world until the second one

@MrMightyZ

3 жыл бұрын

@@RazorsEdge701 Yes that's right, Kyle said "The 600s had rubber skin, we spotted them easy" so it was either the beginning of the idea or a convenient building block to bolt "T-" on to but JC has said that all the other Terminators before Arnie were foot soldiers that might get within a 50 meters before being identified while the 101 (or later the T-800 101) was an "Infiltrator unit" and the first series made to say "Hello, my name is..." and walk in to a base before either killing a specific target or just going berserk and killing everyone. So the different number designation for an Infiltrator reflected the big difference. (One short story or novella included a 101 that tortured a dude to get his password then walked in to a base and managed to live there for several days before his target came back from patrol. Then it killed its target and went all ape-shit cyborg style and killed everyone including some it had befriended)

@pierrejeanf.dupuis4150

3 жыл бұрын

When you observe closely, this is all just a cover-up to throw enemies off their game. The original model is in fact The T2001ASO.

When they released the video saying this was on their Bandcamp, I didn't waste a second. My favorite commentary of theirs and I've probably watched this with their thoughts at least 6 times now. The Terminator is pretty much my favorite movie ever.

@lasarousi

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah these videos are good teasers for the complete track

The coolest thing about the Terminator is that he's not even there, no different to your toaster in terms of sentients. Dark fate - "oh wait"

@judgeomega

2 жыл бұрын

he sees everything. but doesnt concern itself with emotions, culture, and the inanities which consume our human lives. from its perspective, we are the ones whom arent really even here.

@KingRidley

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry, sentience* just so you're aware

What's criminal, is L.Henriksen and M.Biehn not being in more great films!

@TheElectricMayhem

2 жыл бұрын

Throw in Peter Weller too. He’s great.

@4Everlast

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheElectricMayhem I knew i forgot someone, great choice! Seeing him in Into darkness was something else.

@TheElectricMayhem

2 жыл бұрын

@@4Everlast I know that movie gets hate, but Robocop commissioning a GIANT starship is objectively rad. Also, PW is in my favorite episode of Fringe "White Tulip"

@4Everlast

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheElectricMayhem Yes it's more Star wars then Star trek, yes it's got more hear then brains, but It could off been easily fixed by 3 simple changes. #1 Call the bad guy ANYTHING but Khan, it was absolutely pointless, the character and the actor were great! #2 NO magic blood. #3 NO unlimited teleportation. Haven't seen Fringe in a while, don't remember the episode.

@jamesb.russell2942

Жыл бұрын

@onehotsiggy yeah I still quite like Into Darkness, and I love Fringe too.

As much as I love Terminator and T2, I have to agree with Rich, Data could probably beat a T-800 in a fight. Even thought Data isn't specifically built for combat, the gap in technological advancement is just too big. That's like an armored truck from the first world war trying to beat a modern supercar in a flat out race.

@djhenyo

2 жыл бұрын

T-800 was 21st century tech. Data is from the 24th century. No shit he would win.

What's funny here is they're ripping on T3 as being bad, but at the time of recording, they had NO freaking idea how bad things would get with Dark Fate.... ah, the innocence of youth....

@TheFloodFourm

3 жыл бұрын

Poor 80's Kids having their childhoods pillaged time and time again.

@TechnologicallyTechnical

3 жыл бұрын

eh, wasn't as bad as Genysis, but that's not high praise.

@HkFinn83

2 жыл бұрын

Dark Fate was better than T3

@texas-raider

2 жыл бұрын

That's like saying chlamydia is better than gonorrhea.....

@HkFinn83

2 жыл бұрын

@@texas-raider not really. Dark Fate is just better. You implied it was worse than T3.

That Avatar 2 talk is insane

I know T2 is the fan favorite but I’ll always love this one the most!

T2 changed the zeitgeist, GLOBALLY, for all time. It's the greatest sci-fi action film ever made. T1 is the film I personally watch more often. I love both.

Well, Mike was kind of right. Avatar 2 is huge at the box office.

"What are they armed with? Does Data get a phaser?" god damn I love Rich

"Came up with the idea for Terminator..." *Wink Wink nudge nudge*

@EmDub01

3 жыл бұрын

I have no plot and I must plagiarize

I wish they'd do Starship Troopers one day.

@JCMiniPainting

3 жыл бұрын

they did it in a Re:View already

@PuuberZ

3 жыл бұрын

@@JCMiniPainting I meant a commentary of the entire film.

@Fiveash-Art

3 жыл бұрын

Would compliment their Robocop commentary which is hilarious .. one of my favorites.

@JCMiniPainting

3 жыл бұрын

@@PuuberZ oh yeah my bad. That would be a good one. Tho idk how much more they'd actually have to say

@TheElectricMayhem

2 жыл бұрын

If you haven’t seen the ST rifftrax, it’s wonderful.

"That movie's gonna suck" Called that one.

@mar10ssj1

3 жыл бұрын

Everyone did. Except for critics that were on payroll.

@CarozQH

3 жыл бұрын

Even Cameron and the actress who plays the female lead thought Genisys was crap after it came out. What a dumpster fire

2:08 "Dee Uzi nein millimidah!"

Kyle Reese should have keastered a light saber for his time travel

@viljamtheninja

3 жыл бұрын

keastered?

@sageoz9886

3 жыл бұрын

viljamtheninja imagine how drugs get through airports or into prisons....

@gregorycalhoun3788

3 жыл бұрын

It's slang for storing contraband in one's asshole. Most often done in a prison environment.

@doctorbrown5957

2 жыл бұрын

@@gregorycalhoun3788 AKA, Prison wallet

they were wrong about avatar 2, made a shit ton of money

5:46 if someone was wanting more of “that future” presented in T1 and T2 the best place is the Terminator: Resistance game. Not the best game but certainly captures the feel of “that future”

@Venislovas

2 жыл бұрын

For me it really nails the feel of that future.

@parissmith5727

2 жыл бұрын

The best thing to happen to the Terminator franchise in 20 years was that game. Average as far as shooters go, but I've played it so many times. The license was used perfectly.

@davistoa

2 ай бұрын

Don't forget about the games Future Shock and SkyNET!

I will never say in a time travel story “don’t shoot the baby version of them” It’s just the best choice

I really wanted to hear more about "Data v. the Terminator". Now I will never know if Data gets a phaser.

T-800 Model 101. The T-800 is the type of endoskeleton, Model 101 is the human appearance.

I legit wanted to hear Mike & Rich talk about Data vs Terminator at the end there! Anybody else? Just me?

John Wick is one of those low budget movies that teetered between theatrical & VOD and they decided Theatrical and now it's a 1 Billion dollar behemoth series with a 4th and 5th movie in development. So yes...low budget movies can sneak into theatres and become a cultural phenomenon in some way. Paranormal Activity anyone?

@cpb5480

2 жыл бұрын

John Wick had a budget of 20 Million Dollars.

@YukiGibson

2 жыл бұрын

@@cpb5480 Which is really low compared to current blockbuster budgets. I think it should qualify as a low budget movie.

@criticalmas7770

2 жыл бұрын

@@cpb5480 exactly. 20 Million is barely anything

@Leon-zu1wp

2 жыл бұрын

To be fully honest the only thing separating John Wick from a VOD Action movie is the fact that everyone made memes about it. I'm willing to bet dollars to donuts that if they hadn't put the dog revenge element in it than it would never be talked about again.

@ladistar

2 жыл бұрын

@@Leon-zu1wp don’t forget the fucking pencil hahahha the pencil meme elevated the movie from forgettable VOD to cult classic status

T-800 Or cyberdyne systems model 101 is so distinctive in the way arnie says it

The whole fleshing out of how intelligent the Terminator is, how sound the assassination strategy is (very urgent and not willing to play the long game), are extremely touch and go. The logic functions around the thriller dynamics where an unstoppable monster (the reason time travel requires living tissue…so future weapons can’t come back, allowing the monster to be unstoppable) relentlessly pursues the protagonist. The causal loop thing can also be fun in a standalone context. Although the scene where the arm is found at Cyberdyne doesn’t seem to be included in many edits of T1. When you have to revisit this world, for any sequel, the weakness of the world-building is evident. The Sarah Connor Chronicles actually does much better in wrestling with questions of AI, sentience, because it has a lot more time to fill.

@MegaLaban12345

Жыл бұрын

This is not important

@Telorchid

Жыл бұрын

@@MegaLaban12345 come again? What is 'this'? Why is it not important?

These videos are a life saver ❤️

Jay was super wrong about Avatar 2. lol

Im an idiot, I literally had no idea that James Cameron made the first Terminator movie. I thought he was only involved with T2. Fuck, my mind is blown.

@BbNaB

3 жыл бұрын

Any time I try to mention James Cameron during a conversation about movies I totally blank, and name five different other directors and get frustrated.

@joshjames582

3 жыл бұрын

I think that's a common belief because he directed the second Alien movie, and people get them mixed up.

@AlexG1020

3 жыл бұрын

Its his best movie, dude.

@wmascolin

3 жыл бұрын

It's easy to remember because the savior of the entire world in Terminator has the initials JC just like James Cameron. And Jesus Christ but still.

@666FallenShadow

3 жыл бұрын

@@wmascolin james cameron is jesus christ confirmed

I'd buy Old and Bloated for a dollar!

Every time I rewatch this movie I just have one thing on my mind by the end. How did Michael Biehn not become a star after this?

@kevinschoenfelt6587

2 жыл бұрын

100%! Micheal Biehn is the reason T1 is so good. Micheal Biehn and Bill Paxton are the most underrated actors of all time

@LembeckIsStaying

2 жыл бұрын

@@kevinschoenfelt6587 When I was a kid, I rewatched T1 for Arnie. As an adult, I rewatch it for Michael Biehn.

@mytube650

2 жыл бұрын

Agree completely. James Cameron is the only director that seems to like him.

@tylerdordon99

2 жыл бұрын

@@mytube650 he did work with some other great directors though like William Friedken in two occasions (Rampage and Jade) sadly both were flops. He made a film with John Landis as well and that too was a flop. He just wasn't often very lucky when it comes to the films he picks. I heard he also turned down The Usual Suspects, Near Dark, Eight Men Out...etc and even auditioned for Dredd and Mad Max.

@mytube650

2 жыл бұрын

@@tylerdordon99 thanks for the low down Peaness

They should absolutely make that Old & Bloated movie!!! Rich and Mike can play the former child stars.

There's an infinite number of John Connors, because every time they fuck up history she ends up having a completely different baby (since he's not being conceived the same exact way twice) and she just names him John because that's what she's been told. That's my headcanon (but writers think your children are always the same ones when you keep changing the circumstances and timing of their birth, lol)

@walterhoward5512

3 жыл бұрын

What you're talking about the fundamental logic flaw of all the Terminator films after the 1st one.

Excellent, more RLM to watch!

Maybe Mike was too busy talking about Star Trek to remember T2?

Thanks for uploading this

hello. i'm from the future and i'm here to tell you Avatar 2 made 2.32 billion USD at the box office. that is all.

Piranha and Piranah 2 are both excellent candidates for BOTW. As kids we loved both.

@sparkfilms558

3 жыл бұрын

But the first Piranha is a legitimately good movie

@spillanegottleib1681

2 жыл бұрын

Piranha Mom : "Did you eat that human before dinner-time?" Piranha Child : "Gnaw"

I guess it doesn't make sense that you've had the terminator be a massive muscle dude in the future where everyone is starving but in the past I felt Arnie blended fine.

He had a fever dream while watching an overdubbed Italian version of The Outer Limits

@yuothineyesasian

3 жыл бұрын

That's why he had to pay Harlan Ellison royalties.

@billtree52

3 жыл бұрын

What episode?

@FormerHumanX

3 жыл бұрын

Have you seen that episode? It's a huge stretch to think James Cameron copied from it. There is barely any similarity. Harlan Ellison was just a notoriously litigious asshole.

@yuothineyesasian

3 жыл бұрын

@@FormerHumanX He was able to convince the courts.

@FormerHumanX

3 жыл бұрын

@@yuothineyesasian Maybe he had better lawyers. I don't know all the details of the case and I doubt you do either. Ellison sued and intimidated lots of people so it's no surprise some of the cases would go in his favor.

I watched T1 back in 1985 when it hit video in my country. I was blown away by it. To this day, it hasn't lost its charm for me. With T2 I was more impressed by the effects and the overall higher quality of the production - this wasn't a B-movie any more. However: Even though I must've watched T2 three or four times in the theatre, even back then I was bothered by the fact that they turned Arnold's character into a hero. Totally agree with Rich that this "twist" softened the character and somewhat ruined it.

@kevinschoenfelt6587

2 жыл бұрын

I saw T1 the same time as you and totally agree with you. T1 is still one of my favorite movies of all time. I never get tired of rewatching T1

@tadpolegaming4510

2 жыл бұрын

I have an original 1985 VHS

The only movie by James Cameron I didn't really care about is Avatar, but T1, T2, Aliens, and True Lies is my jam.

@TechniqueSan

3 жыл бұрын

It's insane how simplistic and preachy Avatar is, considering he made a handful of masterpieces beforehand. I know the gimmick was the CG technology, but damn, Avatar has a tropey ass embarrassing plot.

@cwinowich

3 жыл бұрын

the abyss and titanic are very good movies as well

@lasarousi

3 жыл бұрын

@@TechniqueSan it's the literal smurfs plot. Like beat by beat the plan of Gargamel. South park even made a joke on the same year about it. It's ok if it was hokey and preachy, but you gotta have something else that's not chastising the viewer about nature conservation and that betraying your race is ok.

@TechniqueSan

3 жыл бұрын

@@lasarousi Considering how many race traitors we have nowadays, I'd say the Hollywood agenda has worked to some degree.

@lasarousi

3 жыл бұрын

@@TechniqueSan well I specifically thought of humans as a species race, not just ethnicity.

the Terminator 2 show at Universal is fun and has some great footage of that future setting Rich loves. don't let Mike make fun of you for it.

Terminator 2 was the last film.

Thanks for the work!

3:14 Kind of funny to think that this might have been the origin of Patty and Selma's pet...

Aliens is his best movie... But Terminator comes in a very close second

“I don’t think people will care about Avatar 2” Lmao

@12ealDealOfficial

10 ай бұрын

Some inside baseball after the fact: China cares about Avatar 2 because the first one was shot there, and the Chinese love James Cameron, especially True Lies, T2, and Titanic (in that order). Most of Avatar 2's money was made in China and I don't think it was that popular domestically.

@JackTorrance333

8 ай бұрын

@@12ealDealOfficialit wasn’t popular here. We’ve had enough of all the bullshit.

12:30 To Rich's credit, the depiction of Snake on the cover of NES Metal Gear intentionally looks just like Kyle Reese.

@SimonBuchanNz

3 жыл бұрын

I thought it was Kurt Russell?

@lotus-prince

3 жыл бұрын

@@SimonBuchanNz The image on the box looks like Kyle Reese. Snake himself, in Metal Gear Solid on PS1, looks like Kurt Russell from Escape from New York.

@SimonBuchanNz

3 жыл бұрын

@@lotus-prince you are absolutely right! I was possibly thinking of him being modeled on Mel Gibson in MG2.

@lotus-prince

3 жыл бұрын

@@SimonBuchanNz Ooh, I didn't know about that one!

@TomVCunningham

3 жыл бұрын

The box art is literally a trace over of a Terminator production image.

Maybe he left her the Revolver to protect herself from other human threats, not the terminator.

@alwaysxnever

2 жыл бұрын

My head cannon is to give her a sense of security and not make her feel helpless maybe.

@josiahbahuaud2294

2 жыл бұрын

@@alwaysxnever Duck and cover. 🤣

The main little girl who directed the T1000 to "The Galleria" was a young Nikki Cox.

That's so awesome they let you use the content they created!

@spillanegottleib1681

2 жыл бұрын

In a way these videos are ads, someone titillated by the 15 minute version might shell out the buck to listen to the full commentary.

The time travel flesh/weapon argument, also known as Mauler's Badger Comment. "Why not just put weapons in a badger and take it with you?"

@MartKencuda

3 жыл бұрын

Or just keep sending back nuclear bombs in flesh sacks until you kill who you want to.

@KabukiKid

3 жыл бұрын

In the Terminator comics from Dark Horse, which actually predate any movie sequels, this was basically done. The machines did some quick surgery to an unfortunate human prisoner to implant weapons inside him just before doing the time travel jump. Then, when the terminators and human prisoner got to the past, the terminators simply killed the suffering human and extracted the surgically implanted futuristic weapon to use on their mission.

@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009

3 жыл бұрын

I mean honestly the only one needing the plasma weapon is Kyle I mean The T-800 can just a punch a hole into Sarah connor

@olotocolo

3 жыл бұрын

@@KabukiKid that actually sounds like a really bad idea. It draws attention to a plothole. As Mike said, why not send nuclear bomb? Why not targeted viral infection. Heck send dead body with evidence sara connro was murderer XD Sen diant tank in gigantic flesh sack!

@KabukiKid

3 жыл бұрын

@@olotocolo The Terminators already sort of have a tiny nuclear bomb inside of them. heh I think the idea behind all of the movies if that the time travel equipment was used in haste, so I guess planning wasn't their strong point. lol

I think the reason why Terminator and metal gear get confused is because the metal gear Box art picture directly references a picture of Michael Biehn as Kyle Reese.

So this was recorded back before Jake Lloyd went to jail, then went to a psychiatric ward, and was diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia, huh

@bentramer682

3 жыл бұрын

All that happened because he stabbed his mother didn't he

@viljamtheninja

3 жыл бұрын

Jesus Christ, poor kid. It ain't easy being hated by the entire internet.

@nakenmil

3 жыл бұрын

@@viljamtheninja Gotta hand it to the Star Wars fandom: they sure know how to ruin innocent peoples' lives because a movie wasn't the way they wanted it!

@malfattio2894

3 жыл бұрын

And I though Hayden had it bad

@thecianinator

3 жыл бұрын

Guys you deserve to know, schizophrenia is a genetic condition. The bullying over his Anakin performance certainly didn't help, but it didn't cause him to become schizophrenic. Sadly he was just always doomed to go insane. It usually manifests fully in your early twenties.

Brainscan is a really underrated Furlong movie from back when he was in his prime. It's dumb but fun.

Arnold and Jake Lloyd were in Jingle All The Way together.

Data would win. He would learn all forms of hand-to-hand combat beforehand while the terminator would just throw a single punch or throw him across the room. Imagine Data turning into Bruce Lee.

@doctorbrown5957

2 жыл бұрын

He can lose though. I just watched the episode the other day where the enterprise has to do a mock battle for this star fleet rep. Supposedly his race is known for their strategic genius, and the first time he challenged him he lost super quick despite knowing how to play. He learned his way around it, but he can still lose.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who has problems with T2

I could listen to RLM talk about anything. Without question the greatest KZread channel of all time next to my boy James Rolfe.

DAMMIT I wanted to hear the Data Vs Terminator convo at the end lol

that was the perfect line to end this video on

You are doing these guys a great service!

Arnold is a T-800 Model 101.

Arnold was with Jake Lloyd in Jingle All The Way.

I think, Arnold terminator is T-800 Model 101. Liquid terminator is T-1000 "advanced prototype". This makes me think he's post alpha stage and now in beta version. I don't think they say a model number for him.

@kegmonkey5648

Жыл бұрын

Since he can look like anyone, he wouldn't have a model number, since that designates appearance.

Rich is 💯 correct about 🐸 Frogman. I think it was "Bullfrog". Working title. OJ had 2 scenes with a 🔪. 1 was a fake scene, scare the 2nd was real. ☠ OJ did train with some Marines, SF guys.

haha that's one of the film equipment trucks driving in the background at the Tiki Motel

I don't know why you have the choose one, I love both of the original Terminator movies. And the 3rd one is not that awful, I agree that we didn't need any more after the first 2, but of all the terminator movies that were made afterwards, T3 is the least annoying.

Cool.

They went way too hard in the paint against T2. I imagine they just had not seen it recently when they made the commentary, because T2 is a great movie

@liama.c.lacthewatcher2590

3 жыл бұрын

It's weird how they see the T-800 becoming a good guy as a mark against the film when the whole point of the movie is to prove our destiny's aren't preordained and we can learn and change. Granted he was reprogrammed, but him going from monster to hero is what makes the movie interesting and he is still capable of learning and not being a souless killer

@SimonBuchanNz

3 жыл бұрын

I prefer T1 to T2, myself, for most of the same reasons. They're fine.

@Fiveash-Art

3 жыл бұрын

​@@liama.c.lacthewatcher2590 It still came off corny ... and Edward Furlong is annoying as hell .... The movie was also a bit too slick ... more action than sci fi horror .... The simplicity and 80's grittiness is why T1 is beautiful and T2 was just a decent tent pole action flick.

@HarryBalzak

3 жыл бұрын

@@liama.c.lacthewatcher2590 There is more to it than that. T2 disregards its own rules whenever convenient. T1 is far superior. T2 was made for broader appeal, which always means they make it dumber.

@self2self9

3 жыл бұрын

T2 was fine, even great, but it introduced a lot of elements that has caused the franchise to be in the sorry state it is today

*Jay Bauman was wrong about something in a movie!* Arnold was actually super excited that Cameron made him the hero in T2. So much so that he accidentally spoiled the twist during a prerelease interview to promote T2. IIRC, his exact words were, "But this time, I get to be the good guy!"

@MrStath1986

2 жыл бұрын

Bingo. Arnold was also particularly business savvy and knew that playing a hero would be the better move than being the vilain again; it's telling that the next time he really played a villain - in Batman and Robin - he got a preposterously huge paycheck for doing so.

@CERTAIND00M

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrStath1986 Yup. It's a shame too because he makes for an absolutely terrifying villain. At least when his dialog is limited and/or composed of something besides ice puns.

11:10 Jay ... you may not have remembered it ... but your brain did LOL

4:10 In the book, the terminator checks each Sarah Conner it kills for an orthopedic appliance in their leg because Skynet knew of an injury she had. But It's the injury she got whilst killing the terminator. So if it had gotten to her first, she also wouldn't have had the metal in her leg so the terminator wouldn't know that it completed it's mission

Very cool!

8:13 oof, that didnt age well 😂

Movies so good

damn The Terminator is a great movie.

I’m disappointed with this. They hardly even commented on the actual movie scenes… and Mike totally missed a big Star Trek reference, namely the police chief is Captain Terrell of the USS Reliant. Also it’s interesting that he dies in both movies due to the actions of the antagonists, who are both murderous monsters who will stop at nothing to kill the protagonists. I never thought about the parallels before until now. Cmon Mike!

@kingofsapi

3 жыл бұрын

what do you expect from Heck Frauds?

@K4inan

3 жыл бұрын

@@kingofsapi hack frauds lol

@kingofsapi

3 жыл бұрын

@@K4inan >.>

We need that Jake Lloyd Edward Furlong movie more then ever now

Salvation was originally meant to have a much more impactful ending in which John Connor dies and the Terminator takes his face and becomes John Connor to keep the resistance alive. Might've worked but the studio wimped out and went with stock movie ending instead.

@Telorchid

2 жыл бұрын

I thought they changed it because it was leaked. Did they wimp out because the response to the leak was perceived as negative?

@josiahbahuaud2294

2 жыл бұрын

@@Telorchid Could be a little of both.

@Telorchid

Жыл бұрын

@@josiahbahuaud2294 wouldn't surprise me.

If I recall correctly, the reason only one Terminator was sent back is because Skynet needed to stop the revolution, but also preserve Cyberdyne Systems. Arnold was technically a infiltrator unit, built strictly for assassinations. In T2, he was an infiltrator unit that John had captured and hacked, then sent it back in read/write mode.

13:22 didn't expect to see the goat here

storytime. when terminator 2 came out i was 3 years old and i LOVED the movie so much i watched it religiously, daily. my mom looks just like linda hamilton and i always thought it WAS my mom and she just never told us about it for some secret reason lol. i can't watch terminator 1 anymore for that reason too, cuz the sex scene. yeah i have to skip that part, its so fucking disgusting to me. i remember as a kid being enthralled by the movie. i was so amazed when the robert patrick terminator melted through those bars and im still amazed by it today. idk why i can't remember his name. oh i found out too recently, that robert trained to do that running scene in the mall parking garage. he did that, for real, it wasn't edited or some pro athlete look alike. that man ran that fast after that dirt bike. fucking commitment, bravo. its also one of my fav parts in the whole movie, its so chilling. he has the perfect robot face, its cold. i recently came up with a fun movie idea while high. i wont say what it is because just in case BUT i feel like it hasn't exactly been done before and if so i might be rich and famous soon lol, i wish. it really is a fun idea though and i keep coming up with ideas and dialogue for it. maybe it'll become something but most likely not but im still doing it. maybe when i die someone will find my idea for the movie and actually make it and they'll use that money for actual good and not selfish reasons for once. and would give me credit even though im dead. i know james is an asshole and thinks hes the best thing ever but because of that he gets his movies done and done RIGHT. he knows what he wants and he does whatever to get it and the result is always good. well like 90% of the time. hes like jontron, he only puts something out randomly and its usually years but when he puts it out? instant fucking hit, everyone loves it and goes apeshit, they give them all their money. its people like that though that make good things; they know what they want and go for it. only unconfident people and people who dont know what they want bend and make shitty movies with constant changes and personal narratives n shit like that. compare every big box office hit movie director to slightly less hit directors and look at their personalities and compare them. i bet the big box office hit people are assholes irl and have been married ATLEAST 3 times. so i agree with mike about the deserved arrogance; its like enjoying one of hitlers paintings; you dont like that you like it but you give credit where its rightly due lol.

t-2 was fun but The Terminator is a far better film overall in terms of pacing and writing.

Waiting for Piranha 2 to appear on Best of the Worst

Of course Jay was right - Arnold is a T800