“If people doesn’t like it, it’s their problem.” Well said my lady.

@NgocTran-nf5hr

8 ай бұрын

That’s right!🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️

In Australia we have Buddhist Theravada Nuns thanks to Ajahn Brahm

@EliasRykart

Жыл бұрын

How can they be nuns when the nun lineage died out?

@sayajinmamuang

2 ай бұрын

​@@EliasRykartthe nun lineage still continues to exist in sri Lanka

@wordscapes5690

Ай бұрын

@@EliasRykartBecause there is no reason they cannot take up the flame from so called males. You are not your body. You are not even you. You are not your genitals. How do you know what you were in your past life? How do you know what you will be in your next one? Only the body “dies out”. Dhamma is eternal.

@lukemckean6155

19 күн бұрын

@@EliasRykartloads of nuns in Mahayana tradition

@EliasRykart

17 күн бұрын

@@sayajinmamuang It was refounded…

May Venerable Dhammanandā live long and keep forging the path for bhikkhuni ordination in Thailand. Bhikkhuni ordination was such a significant step in my spiritual path and I am so grateful that in Australia we have such a strong and supportive bhikkhuni and bhikkhu community. Many people wouldn't realise that we have the largest English speaking bhikkhuni community the world just outside of Perth. Sādhu!

@bernardwood6070

11 ай бұрын

I wondering what they wear underneath their robes as Monks are pure and don't wear underwear? how do you manage a period when it's that time of the month with no underwear as it's one of the rules of monk hood. Do they follow the same rules as male monks? My wife is Thai and finds it hard to believe and like I say to her but it's hard to change their thinking as it's in bedded so I'm asking the question to you so I can give her the answer, I'm very accepting of it but even most Thai women are against it so it will be hard to change

@pasanna_bhikkhuni

11 ай бұрын

A strange question, given the context. I will give the benefit of the doubt that this is respectfully asked. There is no rule either for monks or bhikkhunis regarding 'not wearing underwear'. According to vinaya; underwear is 'determined' as extra cloth requisites, just the same way as socks or beanies are. Some bhikkhunis do not wear underwear and instead will use a hip-string arrangement to secure a pad. Underwear is a very new inventions- ask your grandmothers. The bhikkhuni vinaya has provision for an extra sabong to be worn during one's period (Bhikkhuni Pācittiya 47). In other vinaya traditions (Lokutaravāda Bhikkhuni Pakiṇṇaka 15 in Sanskrit) there is evidence in their rules for cloth tampons being used; this doesn't appear in Theravada though. There is a discussion on the SuttaCentral forum which explains all of this in more detail. SuttaCentral website contains the bhikkhuni vinaya and Paitmokkha in English if you want to read for yourself the rules for bhikkhunis (and Bhikkhus)

@bernardwood6070

11 ай бұрын

@@pasanna_bhikkhuni Thanks for the response I myself have no issues with women donning a robe, but my wife is Thai and they are generally brain washed into thinking that only men can do it as that's what Thai monks want them to think. she understood your answer so she said Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu. She has asked how many rules you follow as Thai monks follow 227?

@pasanna_bhikkhuni

11 ай бұрын

@@bernardwood6070 bhikkhunis have 311 rules. About 150 of them are in common with the bhikkhus. Some are different categories but the same offence.

'A system to maintain their power'... Sums it up. It's wonderful to see the empowerment of women in all walks of life.

@ConanOG

Жыл бұрын

The power of what? To abdicate everything and dedicate their lives to themselves? Not like anyone needed permission for something like that or that there's any power to get from that, except maybe personal one.

@mariamontis6922

Жыл бұрын

DAMA, 😄😂

@konthaijaidee3035

6 ай бұрын

"empowerment of women in all walks of life"? May be, that's misunderstanding to Buddhism. In Buddhism, nothing earthly belongs to us, not even our own physical bodies. The only thing that belongs to us is our souls. Our souls have no gender. So, empowerment of women is what makes us attach to earthly thing, which forces reincarnation and suffering to continue.

@user-dy7eg6dm6k

5 ай бұрын

We are not jealous of power like you say, we are just protecting against dangers that will come later. Like oil and fire, when it is near it will burn it up. But now in Thailand we already have nuns, but not at the present day. Same temple, different temple from Thai people. Amen.

Lord Buddha’s own mother and wife ordained as nuns and there’s no reason women can’t be nuns today.

@sophitsa79

Жыл бұрын

Women have achieved buddhahood. Enlightenment is not gendered.

@marthell6159

Жыл бұрын

The Buddha’s teaching is Sanatana Dharma, the Eternal Truth.

@marthell6159

Жыл бұрын

@Sonic The Hedgehog No, he didn’t. In fact, our scriptures have an entire sutra of verses of women who attained enlightenment, called the Theri Gatha.

@sophitsa79

Жыл бұрын

@Sonic The Hedgehog 😆😆😆😆😆

@sophitsa79

Жыл бұрын

@@marthell6159 thank you for that. I'm off to read about Theri Gatha.

For the record only Thailand and Cambodia impose laws against women ordaining as Buddhist nuns. It has been done for almost a thousand years in countries like Sri Lanka and Myanmar

@TheEmmaLucille

Жыл бұрын

And Korea, Japan etc...

@renatomatos90

Жыл бұрын

And Bhutan now

@abmong

Жыл бұрын

You’re wrong, women in Thailand can get ordained to become Buddhist nuns. They are not currently able to be ordained to become monks, that’s what she’s fighting for. It’s to do with the number of strictures monks observe, which are more than nuns observe.

@King_Neptune

Жыл бұрын

@@abmong well the term 'monk' is for male and 'nun' is female. In the Theravada context the correct term is 'Upasampada'. The white robed nuns exist in Sri Lanka as well with male counterparts who take less vows than saffron robed monks/nuns.

@user-Void-Star

Жыл бұрын

@@abmong it's not a monk. They are fighting for Fully Vinaya's vow. Because the Fully Vinaya vow for a nun is extinct because the fully Vinaya vow for nun lineage is gone.

Thank you for this story of Buddhist women in Thailand. Their gentle courage is an inspiration.

More power to you courageous and brave women of Thailand, from a fellow Sri Lankan-American woman ❤

Such a beautiful, inspiring and thought provoking documentary. It has filled my heart with warmth and respect for these wonderful women. I pray for their peace, tranquility and journey through life.

That's interesting that the monk says that if women are ordained in the monkhood then there would be sexual temptation and monks would break their vows of celibacy. The Buddah said exactly the same thing 2500 years ago. But he couldn't deny that all humans can equally become Buddahs, and that includes women. That's why he ordained his step mother which started the female order. So you can't deny the Buddha's teaching.

I love this report done by ABC. Besides the difficulty and obstacles faced by these aspiring Nuns their determination , persistence and courage to pursue their chosen path is equally inspiring. I truly believe their efforts will eventually make Buddhism flourish further in Thailand.I bow and prostate to all these ( eventual would be) Nuns and may Venerable Dhamananda continue to live long and her efforts and hopes be fulfilled _/\_ Sadhu X3

Wonderful. In Tibetan Buddhism H. Holiness the Dalai Lama introduced Geshema degree to the nuns. Originally this degree was given only to the monks. His Holiness would be very pleased with the initiative these nuns are taking 👏👍❤️

@withanianight8121

Жыл бұрын

Also check out Jetsunma Tenzin Palmo. She brought it up to the Dalai Lama about the gender inequality and asked if he could do anything, she also the founder of the Dongyu Gatsal Ling Nunnery in Himachal Pradesh, India since no one else would speak up for the women who wanted to devote themselves to learning but were unable to before.

Thanks for this report! The full ordination of Nuns is great news for women and also for the future of Buddhism. Otherwise, for example, if Buddhism has a reputation as being obviously sexist, many people would be embarassed to tell their friends how much they like it The claim of an increased danger of sexual misconduct is hard for me to understand. Firstly, I would think that as fully ordained nuns will have their own monasteries they'd actually be further apart from monks as compared with the current practice of Mae Chees often living in men's monasteries.. Secondly, monastics have been misbehaving since the time of the Buddha, so inevitable misbehavior is hardly a reason to deny ordination..

🙏 to the Thai Bhikkhuni from California. The Dhamma is for the benefit of all sentient beings.

East Asian Mahayana is the only Buddhist lineage which has been giving full ordination for women for thousands of years. Very generous to nuns as well. Maybe that is why East Asian Mahayana has become the largest Buddhist lineage with the most number of followers in the world.

Gautama Buddha was the first religious leader in human history who allowed woman to become nuns. The Buddhist teachings are so beautiful and helpful to see reality as it really is. If even a serial killer like Angulimala was able to become a Buddhist saint at the time of the Buddha, why should women not be allowed to enjoy monastic life!

@sankubanku1633

Жыл бұрын

@Sonic The Hedgehog Joining the Sangha isn't about trying to be a Buddha. Its about trying to attain enlightenment and the Buddha said Women are capable of attaining enlightenment.

@Chrisbbilger-yp4fz

Ай бұрын

I agree with you. Namo Buddhay 🙏☸️ Jay Bhim ☸️🙏 🇮🇳

How convenient that no matter what part of world or what area of life it's always forbidden for women, never for men 😡

Proud of these women!

During my stay as an Western layman at a Japanese Zen temple, some monks said to me that Westerners cannot achieve enlightenment. So what? Buddhism provides the opportunity to let go of worldly identity, eg, man or woman, monk or not, in order to remember who or what you are essentially, as who or what you are is not a character in a story created within a culture. Anyone can practise awareness and wake up, as consciousness is the nature of the universal mind, and this mind includes all. If women decide to be politically active within Buddhist traditions, of course, fine, but that makes them an activist with worldly concerns, which is not the reason to be a monk.

@stephenperry152

Жыл бұрын

Hopefully those monks as they developed, moved forth in their understanding of self and the letting go of beliefs.

More power to all these women! 🙏❤

thank you Foreign Correspondent I love this documentary - it makes clear that women are rising to become equal in so many ways and it is necessary and so shall it be love it, bless you all. SallyXXX

Great documentary

I congratulate these women and the community who support them- seeing them as equal to men in rights and spirit.

My main problem with religion is it's male dominated, this has to end. Male, female should be loved and respected and treated equal. I'm sick to death of misogyn in religion.

@stephenperry152

Жыл бұрын

anyone can remove oneself from the created hierarchical stuctures and live as Buddha, Jesus etc to the best of ones ability. No show, no robes, no preaching. Actions.

This is inspiring and moving.......

Very nicely.

buddha wouldn’t discriminate against men and women..

Thank You.

Inspiring

Many idiots try to romanticise Buddhism without understanding Buddhism.

May all beeings be free of ignorance, aversion and opression. Namo buddhaya

Much gratitude to these women for rebelling

The Buddha's female relatives and other ladies were ordained in His lifetime, and one's sex and gender is not a hindrance to Dhamma practice, thus there should be no issue to female ordinations. Only sexists and misogynists oppose bhikkuni ordinations. Sri Lanka, a Theravada heartland, revived the bhikkuni ordination thus Thailand has no reason to find issue with bhikkunis.

And people say the Buddhist religion isn't misogynistic.... All religions treat women as an anathema, this one is no exception. The Dali Lama has nothing but distain for women and he condemned an Australian women for opening a Buddhist monastery for women in India many years ago. When she came to Australia to specifically meet him on his visit, he refused to see her on the basis she was beneath him.

Absolute respect to these Thai women going against the grain.

If a woman can be a monk, then a woman can be a priest and not 'just a nunn'

@A.I.-

Жыл бұрын

How about just removing religion, so that's one less problem/argument/debate for humanity. Do you really need religion to tell you to be a good person?

There were Bhikkuni at the time of Buddha. Women attained Arahant level. If then, would Buddha object now?

@KP-sk9zc

Жыл бұрын

The roles of female monk was break down after Buddha pass away 500 years that why Theravada doesn't let female monk.

I am sure my Supreme Teacher Buddha would be heartbroken to learn about this discrimination against women... More power to the Nuns.

Namo Buddhaya! Sadhu! Sadhu! Sadhu! Go, women! Keep fighting! Stay Proud!

Buddha is, by nature, unable to be offended by women wearing the orange robe and assuming equal spirituality.

@A.I.-

Жыл бұрын

I'm 100% positively sure that Buddha also would disagree about making a Religion called Buddhism.

@marthell6159

Жыл бұрын

@Sonic The Hedgehog Nope

@DR-nh6oo

Жыл бұрын

@Sonic The Hedgehog Buddha probably never had the need to declare his gender, it was probably fairly well known. I hold no expert knowledge, but the other reply that states he would not have approved of his teachings being made into religious doctrine is correct, although I imagine that as the story goes when he slipped away from the mortal coil, he no longer had need, want or indeed capacity to do anything but accept things as they truly are, bias is a human foible that is transcended when one achieves nirvana. The buddhist religion that came after, apparently tells us that to achieve nirvana one must first achieve the highest form of humanity, which, perversely as it seems to me, is to be of make gender. The way we understand the world is informed by knowledge, that in turn has allowed us to see things that were once invisible and unimagined. Buddha made no commandments, only recommendations, none that can be read to invalidation transsexuality or any particular way of seeing oneself, all were to do with mindfulness of motivations and intentions and avoiding harm as much as possible. You can rant and rave and claim knowledge of moral absolutes, but that is your own desires and fears speaking, nothing to do with Buddhas teachings. Go well, don’t rest yourself on precarious comfort, does as Buddha’s teaching encourages, explore your mind, if you not understand your biases you are vulnerable to being manipulated against your own self interest, which cannot be separated from the interests all life. Judge not lest you be judged. All religions hold some truths, as all can and are misused to mislead to benefit particular agendas. Buddha knew this.

@poojawaldia8606

3 ай бұрын

​@@A.I.-Eastern religion are not similar to middle east or abrahmic religion.....the most imp thing for us is to do good work ,non violence etc

Satu satu satu 🙏🏽 I’m so happy that the women are fighting against the patriarchy

Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu 🙏🙏🙏🌹🌹🌹

🙏🙏🙏 Sadhu

Women can become "monastics" and referred as Mae Chee. I had meditation teachers and professor at the Buddhist College in Thailand. I don't feel women are denied place in the temple. They just can't receive an upasampada. It's just a technicality.

You go girls!

I really think both novice nuns look more beautiful with their heads shaved🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️Calm, serene and holy beauty 🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️

Satu Satu Satu 🙏

All Buddhists, whether monks or nuns; male or female lay followers, should study the Gotamisutta and take wisdom from the words of the Buddha as recorded in that sutta. As recorded in that particular sutta, the Buddha did not want to ordain Ven Mahapajapati Gotami even after she pleaded with him three times. Only when Ven Ananda pleaded to the Buddha on behalf of Ven Gotami did the Buddha relented. The Buddha imposed 8 conditions for the ordination of nuns (Bikkhunis) which must be strictly adhered as long as life lasts. Please read the Gotamisutta before making comments on this important issue. The sutta can be found in Anguttara Nikaya (AN 8.51). Please do not get me wrong. Personally, I am not against female ordination. All i am asking is for one to read the Sutta in AN8.51 before taking the life-changing decision. May the Sangha proper for the benefit of all sentient beings. Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu

Very nice documentary. Actually the reason women are not allowed to be ordained in a lot of countries is because the original lineage for nuns has been lost in these countries. Lineages need to be traced right back to the Buddha, otherwise they become a cause of greater harm than good. These lineages still exist in South Korea and Taiwan but have been lost elsewhere.

🙏🙏🙏🙏

Go Girl's...

I do not understand why the narrator keeps using the word Monk or female monk. What's wrong with just using the word Nun? That's like saying the female King Elizabeth II has just passed away. Sounds ridiculous. The white robed women are not Nuns. They are Mae Chee & take a lesser vow & have fewer rules to follow. Fully ordained women should be called Nuns, or bhukkuni. Yes, the lineage has died out in Thailand, but it has been brought back.

They are beautiful.

@Bluecheese1400

Жыл бұрын

They are white colonizers

From darkness into light. From fear to realization. From hate to love. From inequality to the completeness of the sexes

If the religion looks down on you, be smart and leave the religion

@livinginthenow

10 ай бұрын

Buddhism doesn't look down on these women. Women all over the world are ordained as Buddhist nuns. It's the misogyny and patriarchy in Thai culture that is the root of this conflict, and a bunch of old men in robes who don't want to let women into their all boys club.

Lord Buddha would be out raged if he knew his religion segregated women. Buddha loves both genders, this shit has to stop.

Sadhuuuu

♥️

Why cant they just have separate monastries😢

What is a Buddhist merge with minimalist called?

🙏🙏🙏🙇‍♀️🙇‍♀️🙇‍♀️🤲🤲🤲

Nammo Thassa. Women are mothers creators we have the power to attain Nibbana and practice Dhamma as good and even better than men. As more city lives are getting materialistic, more true strong women will enter the Sangha. With the spirit of Gotami, Yashodara, Vishaka, Sanghamitta, let many women raise to embrace Budhism. Nammo Bhudaya! Bhikuni Bhikuni Bhikuni

2024년 뉴진스님의 활약은 시대를 잘 읽고 그 연기자를 불교의 품으로 초대한 분들의 공이 첫 번째다. 그 분들이 주목 받지 못하던 변방의 불교 코미디를 잘 검증해서 다듬어진 일류 히트 상품으로 만들어 준 일등공신이다. 더불어 열린 마음으로 그들을 인정하고 박수쳐 주시는 든든한 한국 불교계 어른들도 힘을 보태주신 것은 물론이다. 나아가 앞으로도 우리 어른들이 계속 열린 마음과 손으로 Mz젊은 불교를 살펴주신다면 제2 제3의 뉴진스님은 머지않은 곳에서 무대 위로 등장할 것이다. 붓다 화이팅!

In the vinaya (monastic code in Buddhism) a girl can only be ordained as a nun by another nun. But the female priesthood died off, so no girl can be ordained anymore because there were no female nuns left to ordain anyone. Nothing to do with sexism. This documentary presented this topic like people in Thailand don't want women to ordain just because they don't like women. That's not the case lol. Anyways, I'm fine with fudging the rules in this particular situation and letting a male monk ordain a female nun. Buddhism needs both monks and nuns to compete with christianity/islam, and reclaim its spot as the #1 most practiced religion worldwide.

It is utterly ridiculous that these male monks interpret the CORE scriptures so negatively. It is SO against what the Buddha Himself would have wanted.

The second I hear the words "the patriarchy" I knew what this was about.

การปฎิบัติ​ธรรมะ​ ไม่จำเป็น​จะต้องบวชพระ​เสมอไป(ประเด็นสำคัญคือผู้หญิงเข้าพระอุโบสถ​ไม่ได้)​ 🙏🙏🙏

@ggwellplay2760

21 күн бұрын

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I love this lifestyle

The Lord Buddha himself ordained women. Good on these Ladies. Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu

Buddha is not a male or female Buddha has no form everyone is Buddha can practice buddhism

@starquant

Жыл бұрын

Misogyny is rampant in every religion. Don't imply it's not the case here either.

@CoolGirl007

Жыл бұрын

What are you talking about ?

@starquant

Жыл бұрын

@@CoolGirl007 Neither is God.. it doesn't stop the misogyny within Christian religions and neither does it in this religion. There are more rules for nuns (bhikkunis) than monks (bhikkus), 331 as against 227, because while everyone has to control their desires, women have the additional burden of not “arousing the desires of men.” Monks are advised to sleep indoors, not outdoors, after an incident where women had sex with a monk while he, apparently, was sleeping under a tree. Monks who do not wake up, or do not yield to temptation despite being accosted by women for sexual pleasure, are seen as innocent and not expelled from the monastic order. Monks who voluntarily submit to female charms are declared defeated (parajita). In the tale of Sudinna, a young monk breaks his vows of celibacy after his old parents beg him to give his wife, whom he had abandoned, a child so that his family lineage may continue. When this is revealed, the Buddha admonishes him thus: “It is better for you to have put your manhood in the mouth of a venomous snake or a pit of burning charcoal than a woman.” In one conversation, the Buddha states, “Of all the scents that can enslave, none is more lethal than that of a woman. Of all the tastes that can enslave, none is more lethal than that of a woman. Of all the voices that can enslave, none is more lethal than that of a woman. Of all the caresses that can enslave, none is more lethal than that of a woman.” Buddhist monks, unlike other monks of that period, are not allowed to wander naked for fear they would attract women with their charms, believed to be enhanced because of their chastity and celibacy. Monks are advised to walk straight, without moving their arms and bodies too much, looking at the ground and not above, lest they get enchanted by “the glance of a woman.” Monks are also advised not to walk with single women, or even sit in the company of men, for it might lead to gossip. In a conversation with Kassappa, Bakulla says that in 80 years he has not only not had sex, he has not even entertained thoughts of women, or seen them, or spoken to them. Once a woman laughed and showed her charms to Mahatissa, but he remained unmoved. When asked by her husband if he found his wife unattractive, Mahatissa said he saw no woman, only a heap of bones. In the story of Sundarasammudha, who leaves his wife to become a monk, the wife approaches the husband and tells him, in what is an allusion to the ashrama system of Hinduism, that they should enjoy the pleasures of marital life till they are old and only then join the Buddhist order together and attain nirvana (liberation through cessation of desires). The monk replies that he would never submit to such seductions which are the snares of death. The texts repeatedly describe celibate monks as embodiments of dhamma (the path of enlightenment) while the lustful insatiable women are described as embodiments of samsara (the cycle of death and rebirths). Sangamaji left his wife and son to become a monk. One day, his wife and son come to him and beg him to come back but he does not respond, and shows no sign of husbandly or fatherly instincts and so is praised by Buddha of achieving true detachment and enlightenment. A true monk, for whom “female sexuality is like the flapping wings of a gnat before a mountain” is a vira (hero). Buddha makes his half-brother Nanda join the monastic order but Nanda is engaged to marry the most beautiful woman in the land and pines for her. So Buddha shows him celestial nymphs who live in the heaven of the 33 gods (Swarga of Hindu Puranas). Buddha asks Nanda if his fiancée is as beautiful as these nymphs, and Nanda says she is like a deformed monkey compared to these nymphs. Buddha says that if he continues to walk the path of dhamma he would be reborn in this heaven and be able to enjoy these nymphs. Spurred by this thought, Nanda actively and diligently engages in monastic practices. By the time he attains enlightenment, all desires for the nymphs and the fiancée are gone.

@CoolGirl007

Жыл бұрын

@@starquant Buddha once said neither male or female has the equality of soul, so there should not be a problem for women to practice Buddha. One should blame themselves as one unable to control themselves, i agree that practitioner should separate because of gender but we have the same rights to practice buddhism... That's my point

@starquant

Жыл бұрын

@@CoolGirl007 Don't even get me started on how females are treated as inferior in this religion. Don't wipe away misogyny with the swipe of your hand because your deity "is not like that", that's the same ridiculous arguments Christians use in order for them to keep women marginalized and subjugated or the same arguments other main stream Patriarchal religions use in that "their religion" is beautiful and we would never kill a woman because she looked at a man walking down the street.

As for the Theravada Bhikkhuni Sangha, I prefer to let them decide for themselves, because each has its own basis. During the time when the Buddha allowed women to become bikkhuni, the Theravada Bikkhuni Sangha was formed But the Buddha also laid down the rule that a candidate for nuns must pass through the ordinations of the Theravada Bhikkhu Sangha and Theravada Bikkhuni Sangha. However, historically, the Theravada Bhikkhuni Sangha has long been extinct and the line of ordination has been broken, making it impossible to carry out Theravada Bhikkhuni ordination, the Theravada Bhikkhu Sangha argues. Meanwhile, the Theravada bikkhuni support group argues that the line of ordination can be drawn from the extant Mahayana Bikkhuni Sangha, because the Mahayana bikkhuni ordination was originally also from the Theravada line of ordination.

@EliasRykart

Жыл бұрын

They don’t care about this my friend. They could be lay followers like the mae chee in Thailand but I assume they care more about the status of being called a nun…

@richardhuang307

5 ай бұрын

There wasn't even Theravada at the time of the Buddha. There was just 2 sanghas at that time, Bikkhu Sangha and Bikkhuni Sangha. Current Bikkhuni sanghas are as valid as theravada male sanghas today.

so as they aged, they found their lives meaningless, then found meaning in buddhist tradition, then immediately 'rebeled' against buddhist tradition. sad.

I wondering what they wear underneath their robes as Monks are pure and don't wear underwear? how do you manage a period when it's that time of the month with no underwear as it's one of the rules of monk hood. Do they follow the same rules as male monks?

Silly me, I thought religions were supposed to be about love, peace and all people being accepted..

@milkybar06

Жыл бұрын

They are supposed to be. But as usual when people and politics gets involved the religion gets corrupted and starts corrupting others.

@mikelloyd520

Жыл бұрын

No. Religion about mass control of people.

@ConanOG

Жыл бұрын

Silly of you thinking all religions talk with each other to do the same things... It's almost like each one of them did their own thing, with different rules, some have gods, some don't, the ones that have may have different ones or even several ones.... Not even from one country to another they have the same rules even if they seemed to obey some unique philosophy, they don't.

@w.urlitzer1869

Жыл бұрын

well, these women surely are attempting love, peace and all people being accepted.

@A.I.-

Жыл бұрын

Religions are made of Human beings. Human beings are imperfect. And what do you think an imperfect human being will do?

Queen Maha Prajapathi was allowed 2067 years back, and women are more disciplined so what is wrong with that. Its discrimination as Lord Buddha was the first religious leader who considered and treated women as equal to men. Further, Lord Buddha ignored cast system and most of the other differences too. I suppose Lord Buddha questioned the belief at the time women were created from a leg of Brahma or similar idea. Pl correct me if I am wrong. So its very sad to see this discrimination as either its very rare or there are no arya monks to be seen now a day's who follow their paths strictly according to Lord Buddha;s instructions in vinaya pitaka and parajika palis etc.

Minimalist are also on the righteous path.

Indians are our spiritual restorers. 🙏♾️🕉️♾️✝️♾️🧬♾️🙏 🇳🇦👠🌞🌈🌍♂️♀️

Not in Mahayana though. Only in Theravada the ignorant and cult monks look down on woman as their equal spiritual counterparts.

Don't talk bad about the Buddha. He is a Sammasambuddha, the fully Awaken One.

How wonderful. 😁❤️🙏 Temple politics are so very divisive and unpleasant and most often are contradictory to the teachings of the Buddha.

Buddha himself had female monks why cant you people respect female monks.

Enjoy your life.

Most like became a female monk can you help me i am sri lankan

Thailand and Cambodia ban because in the past there too many forged monks between man and woman.

@phra-ie5un

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Also Laos.

The Supreme Sangha Council reminds me a lot on the Catholic Church. Both are run by old man who like living in the past.

But they all wear masks.... 🤮

Family

Any being even a chimp if it knows the teachings and understands it can awake to reality !!! massive repect to the women :) :) :) :)

these thervada buddhist completely lost the original teaching and story of Buddha...

‘Offence to Buddha’ hahahahahhahhahaahhahahahhahahahahahahhaha.

เมื่อคำสอนบอกบริษัททั้ง4 มีภิกษุณีประกอบอยู่ด้วย แต่ความไม่ทัดเทียมอย่างโง่เขลา ตามคำกล่าวอ้างต่างๆจึงย้อนแย้งสิ้นดี ไฉนจึงมีภิกษุณีไม่ได้ครับ

Those monk look goofy. In Burma they don’t care about masks

nope. not acceptable in my country.

People should talk about things they know well. Without critivising othets faiths buddhas doctrine is not releigeon or phillosophy iit is sort of science seeings knowing as they truly are nit the superficial layer as it looks cause and effect not a story about creation. And prayers to unknown creater.

Let females grow wit us .

No offence to Buddha but the patriarchal monks! Wise monks would not reject females for following the Buddha. What special about Buddhism is that Buddha ‘s teachings: all sentient beings have Buddha nature and we all are capable of enlightenment???

a desire for non desire!

I guess the film maker mis present and misinterpreted that the monk not allow women to be ordained. The true reason is that, the Buddha allow women to be ordained only if there is a Bikkhuni to ordained them. Only Buddha can start the Bikkhuni leanage. Unfortunately, the Bikkhuni leanage established by the Buddha was disconnected as time passes by. When it is disconnected, it need Buddha to establish the leanage again since there is no more Bikkhuni. Therefore, is not the monk's wish to allow or disallow Bikkhuni, is the Buddha lay down the system is like this . The monks need to follow the words of Buddha and act accordingly, is not fighting of power between sexes like what they said. If you go against Buddha rule, then even one is in the robe, they still not a ordained person. There is no sexual discrimination here. Hope everyone can study Dhamma more detail, and understand deeper, so that propagate the truth. If one have wrong view, their bad karma maybe accumulated over the future life time. May all these so call Bikkhuni be blessed and able to comprehend the true Buddha teaching, practice and out of samsara

Buddhism isn't for everyone, obviously. Buddhism is only for the ones who can follow it correctly. Following Buddhism correctly could be harder than deep-sea diving. Or one is no longer a Buddhist once not following it. Superficial Buddhists are Buddhists too. But one who is not willing to follow correctly, with disrespect of the teacher and his teachings, is a Buddhist by name only, so isn't a Buddhist at all.

@kori4580

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the Buddha taught the best path is the middle way. What you describe ( harder than deep-sea diving) is like the extreme ascetics the Buddha encountered on his journey and he tried fasting to the point of starvation yet he found that it only caused suffering. Was it disrespect of Buddha when he disagreed with their way of life? Buddhism is not orthodoxy and not dogma....it is a way of life.

@kickDustPedestrian

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@@kori4580 He sat for six years figuring out how to reach deathlessness. He found deathlessness in anapanasati. But if too easy, everyone would become enlightened. No, it's not for the lazy and the selfish.

@kori4580

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@@kickDustPedestrian and the Buddha did this whilst having compassion yet how you speak is anything but compassion. Again, you can be hard like the extreme ascetics the Buddha encountered but you will never achieve enlightenment….that is the teaching of the Buddha.

@kori4580

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@@kickDustPedestrian yes and what did he discover after six years? that the middle path is the best and the harsh asceticism only caused more suffering.

@kickDustPedestrian

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@@kori4580 He discovered his mistake and realized Majjhima-patipadā must be the way. He recalled anapanasati, the meditation method he practiced when he was 7 years old.

Buddha reluctantly endorsed the first nun-hood. Buddha believes that Buddhism will suffer for 500 years when his step mother and the group join the sangha.