I love this video and could not agree more with all the conclusions! Greetings from the Shot Show in Vegas.

@jonmurraymurray5512

4 ай бұрын

Good to see you jeoge

@merdoch

4 ай бұрын

Come by the archery range Jorg!

@SirAtesh

4 ай бұрын

Your laugh never fails to bring me joy, keep up the great work good man.

@queirol2126

4 ай бұрын

Can't wait for the Interceptor @Slingshotchannel

@Cormano980

4 ай бұрын

Don't forget to visit our Tactical Gimp leather suits stand, it's close to yours and we know you germans love these It's got zippers all over, even in the back

The latch crossbow seems like the same idea as a modern, low powered, concealed carry handgun. People always argue over stopping power and ballistics but sometimes you just want something that's convenient to use while being just inconvenient enough to get shot by.

@tods_workshop

4 ай бұрын

Nicely put

@victorro8760

4 ай бұрын

And a tiny little 22 caliber is infinitely more effective than the desert eagle you left at home because carrying it is a bitch.

@robertbodell55

4 ай бұрын

The other thing to consider is the border reivers were mainly raiding on either side side of the Scottish border regularly so a bow like this would be useful since you could load or fire it while mounted on handed and as raiders you generally don't run into guys decked out to fight if you can help it. So the lower power wouldn't be to much a problem in that context.

@asmodiusjones9563

4 ай бұрын

There’s a joke response to people who say .22 is too small of a caliber, “point to the place on your body you wouldn’t mind getting shot by a .22”. It’s the same with this crossbow.

@QuantumHistorian

4 ай бұрын

The better analogy might be a carbine IMO. Reevers were not exactly civilian, more like state sponsored banditry, so I doubt concealing was the main use. Rather ease of use, tactical flexibility, and general lightness.

Tod was just innocently sitting there, contemplating his collection of medieval crossbows, as he does. But then the Adder bow began to whisper to him, calling in the back of his mind... _"You should show someone their features."_

@maasbekooy901

Ай бұрын

in a german accent, obviously

Honestly, for a civil usage, the latchet crossbow sounds just about perfect. What i'm thinking of is for example home defence, where you dont expect a heavily armoured knight to attack you, but rather a few outlaws or whatever. And there, it would definitely be beneficial to be able to shoot quicker, even if it comes at a cost to deadliness. It doesnt really matter if you kill with every single shot, as long as you can either get a few warning shots or a nasty wound, that should be enough to make the attackers change their mind. Plus, it is easy to use, pretty portable, probably quite simple to maintain/store, and you dont have any detachable parts to bother you in one way or the other.

@SuperFunkmachine

4 ай бұрын

The border reivers are know for quite light and limited armour.

@littlekong7685

4 ай бұрын

Plus, if a few villagers gather together at the town gates, that flurry of bolts, no matter how small or short ranged, would make it a pretty daunting task to close to melee. Half a dozen bolts every 2-3 seconds, no raider is moving up that quickly from the outbuildings to the town gate.

@tods_workshop

4 ай бұрын

At Andreas - my gut feeling is that you are right on pretty much all counts, but those with combat experience would be far better to comment than me.

@2bingtim

4 ай бұрын

Chinese repeating crossbow is best for that. 10+ bolts that can be shot at one every 1 or two seconds, reloads quite quickly too.

@JoeStuffzAlt

4 ай бұрын

I was thinking the same thing. The latchet bow looks really good for an untrained person to use. Maybe it's like how people own a shotgun.

Love to see Joerg's crazy inventions hitting the mainstream!

@Anonymous-ev5kj

4 ай бұрын

You could send him back in time and change history haha

@rhetorical1488

4 ай бұрын

he will show you its features😄

I remember watching Joerg making the prototype of that crossbow years ago 😊

@MonkeyJedi99

4 ай бұрын

FEATURES!

@michaeltempsch5282

4 ай бұрын

​@@MonkeyJedi99, let me show you its...

@Twistedmetallic

4 ай бұрын

Joerg made this for 400 years ago 🤔

@tods_workshop

4 ай бұрын

I thought about trying to say it, but there is only one and I would have looked daft

You should try making a magazine for that one. I'd love to see that.

@Fuerwahrhalunke

4 ай бұрын

I was just about to comment the same thing!

@LuxisAlukard

4 ай бұрын

Same

@Arkantos117

4 ай бұрын

Seems like it would be hard to mount with the way the mechanism works.

@tods_workshop

4 ай бұрын

Possible but tricky, but a bit busy for something so speculative

@tl8211

4 ай бұрын

Alofs reloading magazine, crossbow-style? kzread.info/dash/bejne/moJ9zcWaaM6XhbQ.html

If Jorge Sprave had been born in the middle ages I expect he would have invented plywood *and* weaponized it. He's a mad genius. I really love your craftsmanship Todd. Just beautiful work.

@2adamast

4 ай бұрын

Roman shields are plywood

@DalHrusk

4 ай бұрын

He would invent gold rubber and conquere the Europe

@StonesSticksBones

4 ай бұрын

He'd be the friendliest warlord

@SB-qm5wg

4 ай бұрын

LOL! 😆@@StonesSticksBones

@JanoTuotanto

4 ай бұрын

He did. Read the Bonaccorso manuscript

The 400-year-old design is such a lovely example of engineering (and Tod's craft). "Fun, war, civil defence?" That sounds like a great description of this channel.

I still find that clip of 20 Joe's blasting out a hail of arrows impressive, hilarious and terrifying at the same time 😂

The 800 lbs draw weight made me realise I want to see a collaboration with someone like Eddie Hall, just to see how fast he can reload that crossbow.

@efethecaptain6

4 ай бұрын

Yup, medieval and Eddie Hall sounds good both together 😅

@styxspeedrun

4 ай бұрын

As fun as that sounds it's more of a technique kind of deal more than strength

@bBlaF

4 ай бұрын

​@@styxspeedrun It's still a question, though, how much of the technique might be rendered unnecessary by someone as wildly outside the normal strength of a period crossbowman as Eddie Hall. And then, if he can learn the technique reasonably well how much might the system's potential be amplified by his greater strength.

@lscibor

4 ай бұрын

No reason to go all the way with Eddie Hall, I wonder just how heavy a crossbow could Joe Gibbs draw, with his strenght and considerable prowess in drawing "classic" bows. I imagine he could try to tackle the 600 pound area with some practice and good belt. Andreas Bichler draws 440 with a doubler belt, and he's bit older gentleman and as far as I am aware not able to draw 190 pound monster bows at all.

@jacksonterrance8833

4 ай бұрын

Are you guys talking about the guy that was on stan lees superhumans? He can roll up frying pans and tie horseshoes in knots.

the way you say Landsknecht has forever been hilarious: you're basically saying "land's snail/national snail". Anyway, I love the dagger and am considering getting another :D

@tods_workshop

4 ай бұрын

I know - I try and try, but I keep forgetting, but at least it amuses you rather than offends you

I bet there'd be a huge market for a Todd Cutler latchet bow with s "medieval style" magazine. No modern materials - a bow which could well have been built back in the medieval period, but unaccountably wasn't.

@foldionepapyrus3441

4 ай бұрын

Indeed. Though for all we know it may have existed and just not survived or been noticed in the archaeology or records yet. Though I think ultimately it probably didn't - if you really want a magazine fed system it is going to be put on the slightly larger crossbow IMO - the added bulk for the magazine makes that smaller easier to carry crossbow suddenly just as awkward to transport and carry as the bigger one anyway, so you might as well have the more effective weapon and just build in the goats foot. Though I expect I'd absolutely enjoy such a pretty little latchet bow with magazine and so might somebody wealthy enough to have it made even though its not that practical.

@Del350K4

4 ай бұрын

@@foldionepapyrus3441 I think all your reasoning makes sense, and I agree that you've probably put your finger on the answer to the question of why we don't find these things depicted in art or in the archeological record.

@QuantumHistorian

4 ай бұрын

I believe that there was a sort of primitive, magazine fed ballista built by Archimedes. Not really a crossbow because it's torsion powered rather than tension, but not a million miles away. Didn't see much use though, the extra complexity in the device, the reduced power, and the increased loading time were too big draw backs for the increase in shooting rate. I believe the same was true for the Chinese repeating bows, which were more court weapons than battlefield ones.

@Del350K4

4 ай бұрын

@@QuantumHistorian Yes - earlier in this thread I said that the fact that magazines weren't widely enough used to have left any trace was "unaccountable". But now I realise that there were good, sound reasons for the people of that period to leave them well alone. Bulk, complexity and the fact that magazines didn't let you shoot more bolts per hour, but simply let you deliver them in a succession of quick bursts, would top my new-found list of those reasons.

As a descendant of those Border Reivers, I am sure that my ancestors would have used the Adder, had it been available to them. They were a practical people if nothing else.

I was told the the Border Reivers (not Reavers!) Used to refer to the bow as 'The Latch'. And yes, mine is a Border Reiver clan name. I have one of Tod's excellent Dudgeon daggers. Might have to save for a latchet bow now 😊

@tods_workshop

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for the support and no hard feelings over the raiding I hope

@tobyrobson2939

4 ай бұрын

@@tods_workshop None - just don't mention the dudgeon dagger to the Armstrongs! ;)

@scottjefcoats6645

Ай бұрын

​@@tobyrobson2939 Or let one of us read it in the comment section.

Powerful enough being the key phrase

@huldu

4 ай бұрын

Exactly and this is the key point. If someone is barely wearing any armor that thing would get the job done, period.

Adder on paper looks like fantastic example of LTL weapon. It prolly wont kill unless you hit in the neck, or face. But on the other hand it goes pretty fast and will hurt even when hit just in extremities. As such I think it also deserves this "rethink one's options" kind of thingie. Also that footage of Joe with several other shots of himself in same screen... Sounds almost like a damn M60 over here.😆👍

One of those small bolts from the Reivers bow would certainly spoil your day if it didn't actually kill you! As always I enjoyed the video.

@SonsOfLorgar

4 ай бұрын

And if the bolt didn't kill you, with a week of festering, the wound infection most definitely could.

Now I want to play a siege level of a medieval spy game where you infiltrate a castle and then sneak around tossing all the crannequins, goats' feet, and windlasses into the forge to sabotage the enemy's defenses

@steemlenn8797

4 ай бұрын

LOL but true.

Holy crap!! That's scary! 😳 Joe Gibbs X 30 all equipped with "Instant Legolas" would have changed history! 😁👍🏼

"It's not a very powerful bow" Nope, but it's powerful ENOUGH to make a speculative raider 1) go down or 2) go away. It has exactly as much power as it needs, with a high fire rate to match!

@SonsOfLorgar

4 ай бұрын

And if 2, has a good chance to leave the discouraged raider with a deep festering wound that's likely to kill them within a fourthnight anyway...

@BazilRat

4 ай бұрын

@@SonsOfLorgar Yep, one that all his mates are going to see and think "Hamish died in a really ugly way we'd better not raid that spot again"

@BazilRat

4 ай бұрын

@@SonsOfLorgar I just had a thought too. Not just that; 3, 4 guys with one of these each in a semi-protected structure is basically a machine gun nest for the era. There'll be a bolt going out every 2-5 seconds and you're not getting close to that without a lot of people having bolts in them.

Dark Elf general -- you have my attention! For Malekith!

@michael3088

4 ай бұрын

Ah I see you are a man of culture as well. (Excited for the old world)

@kdavidsmith1

4 ай бұрын

I understood this reference.

I love the very British mix and match of imperial and metric units in the table. ft/s and kgm/s - not a problem 😂

@tods_workshop

4 ай бұрын

I try

One should also not underestimate the importance of beauty: If you are walking around with the latchet bow every day as a longer range self defence weapon, then you want something that also puts a smile on your face every time you look at it. And the sheer elegance of this nifty little design absolutely does that.

In the correctional facility I used to work in, we used pepperball guns (think paintball guns loaded with pepper powder) to break up fights. We had harder hitting less-lethal shotguns and 40mm launchers, but the sting of a pepperball was enough to gain compliance in most situations. Even if the majority of injuries caused by this crossbow weren't lethal, the pain of being shot would be enough to deter further hostile action in most situations.

This was really really interesting. And as you said, 400 years but still so similar. And we think we are advanced now, but just to come up with that idea 400 years ago and make it work as good as it did. That's advanced.

I'd love to see a latchet steel bow reworked to use a composite bow just to see how much extra power the new materials would have made a historic bow have.

One of the funniest things I ever saw was in the Chinese movie Red Cliff - they had these repeating crossbows, which were supposed to be a super invention. How did they use them? A couple of individuals (at different times in the movie) ran forward, stood out in the open, and pumped the handle back and forth a few times, firing from the hip. Never mind hitting anything.

@rooroo9216

3 ай бұрын

Yeah that’s right, it can shoot fast but they don’t really get to aim it because of that.

Would love to see a chu ko nu video comparing it to the other crossbows you have made. A general video comparing Chinese composite crossbows to European ones would also be cool.

@leeho8746

4 ай бұрын

我是中国人，我不知道你们的翻译怎么回事这个连弩的正确读音应该是“zhu ge nu”这个分解开，里面的“zhuge”等于“诸葛”是中国三国时期的蜀国的人物，传言他很聪明经常会有发明，这个连弩就是他的众多发明之一，其中的“nu”等同于“弩”就是十字弓的意思

@Iching100

4 ай бұрын

@@leeho8746 basic translation "i'm chinese, the transliteration chu ku no is outdated, it should be zhu ge nu thats how you write it in modern day. Zhu Ge was a famous strategist in the third kingdom, associated with many inventions such as the repeating crossbow.

@HistoricalWeapons

4 ай бұрын

He doesn’t show any asiatic crossbows. I understand he is based on England and allowed to make whatever content he wants. After all it’s a KZread platform where you post what your interested in

@firespark8455

4 ай бұрын

@@HistoricalWeapons I never said he has to make a video on it, I just gave a suggestion of something I thought would be interesting. Suggesting something isn’t forcing someone to do something.

So you invented the instant legolas thing and Jörg hopefully gives you a piece of the cake

it seems that with these inefficient steel limbs you can get more power if you use a heavier bolt. It would make sense to test most of these crossbows with heavy bolts of the same weight.

I've always had a soft spot for goat's-foot-lever crossbows. It just seems like such a nice compromise between power, speed, and rugged dependency. Belt or stirrup loaded bows might be too weak against an armoured target, while a windlass bow is more like field artillery and lacking in ease of use or flexibility. Goat's foot however, sits just in the sweet spot IMHO.

Back in the day the mini crossbows would be kept on your horse and if you were being chased by another horseman you could shoot their horse slowing it with injury allowing you to out run the pursuers.

@LandersWorkshop

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, but the other shot is they could be doing the same thing to the guy's horse who they are pursuing. :)

@andrewsock1608

4 ай бұрын

@@LandersWorkshop no the horses head is in the way

@LandersWorkshop

4 ай бұрын

Not always. Uphill, downhill, leaning off to one-side, making an angled approach etc. Cheviots area is notoriously hilly and undulating as well so the argument doesn't stand to the empirical. Down south in the flatlands more likely it's less effective. @@andrewsock1608

There is a crossbow of even more power which is called the arbalest I believe. They are usually very very powerful and rare to find an antique example. They were a bigger deal on the continental mainland (Germany in particular) and were like under-sized balistas (Usually not carried around on campaign but on fortresses and city walls for use by troops and city watch etc).

The deal with the modern bow (Jörg's design) is the magazine. That kind of changes everything about the concept, don't you think? If you're in a standing defence system you could make that a 90 arrow magasine which means constant fire, you could make it big to just push down on a wall which means power could be really great, you could make it a longer draw meaning distance shots... If you have a defence position and a crossbow with a magazine for the arrows and a court full of longbows you could take out basically anything along with the other traditional means. Anyway, my point is that reloading in combat is a mindfuck that takes ages longer than what you ever have and I should know.

I see you've taken a cue from Paul Harrell with the meat target, nice!

I love my adder. The adder is a perfect home defense weapon, particularly for those in Europe who can't own firearms like we can in America. Based on those numbers the adder is very, very good all around for the low 130lb draw weight.

Just the idea of a doohickey, that you do a thing to, then put a mini spear in it, so you can yeet it at someone or something is just so funny to me. The wobbling in the bolt in the footage of you shooting the cranequin and it just wobbling like that was really funny. Idk why.

I love these videos. I wish you were teaching at uni. One of our lecturers got us to do design and build mini projects on some mediaeval seige engines. But your specific knowledge and passion is unparalleled. Thanks Todd. These videos help keep my engineering brain alive.

Tod, you should do a follow up video in 400 years that compares the newest version with these two.

I just love these videos. Thanks Tod.

Considering the big difference in draw weight between the crannequin and the goat's foot, it's a bit surprising how small the difference is between them in terms of energy and momentum. It just goes to show that draw weight is not the be all and end all when it comes to how hard that bolt is going to hit.

@tods_workshop

4 ай бұрын

I probably just set the draw length or brace height a bit long on the goats foot or a bit short on the cranequin so the difference is slight in this case. I know the weights for the various bows I use so don't often weigh them. It is amazing how few mm can change the weight massively.

@2bingtim

4 ай бұрын

Crossbows generally are far less efficient than ordinary bows, medieval european crossbows especially so. Apart from compactness & quicker to train to use, why use 2 or 3+ the energy/strangth to shoot like a far lighter hand bow? Even a modern, more efficient crossbow takes c.175lb to shoot like a 70lb bow.

@jacksonterrance8833

4 ай бұрын

Yeah but you have to be trained and have experience for that to be true. If you got guys with no experience crossbows,spear, and maces or clubs make them a dangerous army fast.

@randalthor741

4 ай бұрын

@@tods_workshop I figured it was probably to do with the draw lengths, didn't think about the brace height. Obviously draw weight is very important to how a crossbow performs, but it's fascinating to me how many other factors also play into it!

@tods_workshop

4 ай бұрын

on my bows, a 1mm increase in brace height equates to a 5mm difference in draw length weight. Not sure how to explain it as I don't really have the words, without writing an essay, but basically tiny differences in brace height make large differences in the ultimate weight because the bows stack so rapidly.

Brilliant video, Tod. Thank you so much! Lots more data to add to my spreadsheets. The 800-850lb crossbow data is particularly helpful. You had done a range test on this crossbow in the past, and you achieved 217m with the 65 (1000-grain) bolt. This chrono test now supports my theory of the speed and weight needed for a 100lb bow (or fast 90-95lb) yew bow to reach that 200m (220-yard) statute distance in my last test. Thank you so much. Of course, I need to test with a bow as well, but this definitely puts me on the right path!

I counted 3 shots with the latchet in less than 30 seconds. Now that's soldiering!

Seems like bows went through a similar evolution to firearms. Obviously over a longer period. But today we use small, fast bullets because even though they may not remove massive chunks like say a musket would, it’s fast, accurate and will still more than do the job.

Learning that those latchet crossbows were used as civil defense weapons puts the asiatic reflex bow into perspective that I'm shooting for purely recreationally purposes. It has a relatively low poundage (35@33) compared to actual war or hunting bows, but it does manage to get roughly 60 J and 1.3 kg m/s which on paper would beat even the adder.

Fascinating! Thank you!

Another great video Tod. Thanks

jeorgsprave's got an even smaller faster crossbow now. its like a crossbow smg.

The latch bow was used by border horsemen and mainly used against unarmoured targets, and may have been used at Flodden by the border horse to slow the advancing shiltrons which almost turned the right flank of the English line

Very insightful!

Side note: there is a family business over at the Borders, it’s called Border Archery. If you’ve never seen their bows or know about their very rich history in making their recurve bows and crossbows, I highly recommend it. Take care Todd!

Lovely video, was a lot of fun to watch!

Gotta love an education ad! Well done Todd. Keep them in there.

It's like when people dismiss .22LR as a pea shooter round. You still dont want to be on the receiving end of it though

@robo5013

4 ай бұрын

It was the preferred weapon of Marine Corps snipers in Vietnam. It was easier to silence and dampen the muzzle flash.

I absolutely love it when you do experimental archeology. I would love one of those Latchet Crossbows.

wow I love the latchet

Interesting as always. Great to see the return of the Joe Gibbs Rapid Fire Group.

Great video as always ❤

There's a thing that always got me with these fast reloading small bows. If you can't reload before your - now thoroughly pissed off - adversary can reach you, the reload is a little moot. Different, of course, if you have a mate who is also loading theirs, but ideally you want that second bolt before the adversary can move from just in range to within sword's reach.

@hairychris444

4 ай бұрын

I dunno, the bolt has enough power to go in to flesh as far as the fletching at close range. That's an ugly wound which will ruin almost anyone's day immediately...

@Seelenschmiede

4 ай бұрын

But most propably will not kill him outright, so there is enough life time in him to run up to you and impale with his sword...

@steemlenn8797

4 ай бұрын

Don't be stupid. Someone bangs on your door, demanding you paying them the money back you won yesterday while they were drunk, you get the bow, and when they kick open the door, you put one in htem and then you run out the backdoor, laughing. All Crossbows are one shot things against someone running at you at full speed, which might be why nobody puts a magazine on them.

@LandersWorkshop

4 ай бұрын

For some fights and battles though the crossbow troops would be among spearmen, or even laying under screens or pikes, which would make it more a thing of potential. Granted that was more a Swiss and German thing but you get the vibe. @@steemlenn8797

08:15 ... the ancient people of Greece and Rome were just like us in our thinking and our enjoyment of having fun. Just as some of us here in the US who have a lot of property have friends over for a BBQ and bring out the .22 caliber rifle and plink cans for fun, I would not doubt if the ancient people of Rome would throw darts or small axes at old pottery, or the people of the medieval times would have a dinner and wine party and plink with a small crossbow at pottery or anything that would spread joy to observers when hit by a tiny little bolt. How do we know the people of ancient times were just like us? Graffitti... yes, in Pompeii was found a tavern, with the same type of bar we have today that we walk up to and sit on the stool to enjoy a pint or three. On the bar counter was found scrawled graffitti "Bob's wife is a loose woman" or "Jimmy is so fat the butcher thought he was a pig"... insulting and often risque graffiti has been found all over Pompeii... with the exact type of insults we would scrawl on a restroom wall. Ancient people of Greece and Rome were just a few thousand years back. Considering how long humans have been around, the ancient folk of Greece and Rome might as well be immediate family or friends. The tech was different, but the jokes were the same, the pranks, the laughter, dancing and music... we are no different, so with that, we know they enjoyed a backyard party where small weapons or wooden replicas would be used to goof around with, or later, low-power crossbows for parlor plinking. It's a fun concept to think about... some guy a thousand years ago having the same type of thoughts and love of sports as we have today... just with different technology. With a bit of explaining, they would know how to use a modern firearm or drive a car (after they get over the astonishment, of course)... but the ancient people we think are so long ago simply were no different than you or I today.

Another great video Tod!!! I enjoyed your video and I gave it a Thumbs Up

Great video!

Not sure it's the right niche but if anyone's in total fixation with hardcore Medieval Art of War (mostly collective tactics rather than individual weapons performance) I strongly recommend Schwerpunkt's videos series

The latchet crossbow has so much character to it, it's hard not to be fond of it. I realize a lot of time and resources would be needed, but seeing a magazine for the latchet bow (or attempting a medieval version of the adder) would be incredible.

Wonderful video, great comparison. Than you!

I agree on every point that you made, there is both a place for old school and modern.

I really appreciate the look at these items outside pure military. People tend to get so hung up on military they miss that people still wanted hunting tools or just fun gadgets back then.

That clip of the repeating longbow mag Im imagining You have two guys An archer and a support When the mag is finished you trade the bow out for a loaded one and the support loads the first bow Then repeats. Much like how it was sometimes done with crossbows. A line of those would be devastating.

So nice to see Tod enjoying the spring.

Beautiful. Even though it is small and low powered, being hit with that latchet bow would definitely make me want to be somewhere else.

Tour de force! Thanks.

Well... the obvious thing to do is to make your favourite but with a magazine 😀 . Looking forward to seeing how it preforms.

"historical people were no different from us" Hear hear!!! So rare for people to aknowledge this.

Reavers.... They did more than protect, they'd come south into England and go back with more people than they came down with... if you know what I mean... The North remembers...

@michaeltempsch5282

4 ай бұрын

Learned something today; only knew that term from the Firefly/Serenity universe...

Looks like the goats foot and the adder shot right , the others knock the bolt up in a unpredictable manner. I always encountered that problem when making mini crossbows too. The head weight and string thickness and precisely where and how the string contacts the bolt make huge difference in elevation accuracy. Sometimes you want it to bump the bolt up if it’s a low power crossbow but I like straight flat shots . Your bolt needs to be as thick as your string if you have a fat string.

@tods_workshop

4 ай бұрын

Mostly it is an issue with bows like the hunting bow that do not have a bolt groove, but a holder at the front because the bolt is already canted upward so does lift on launch, but as long as the lift is predictable there is no issue

@andrewsock1608

4 ай бұрын

@@tods_workshop it just makes it less intuitive to shoot.

Medieval people didn’t need a bolt magazine because they usually had two or more crossbows and someone to load one wile the shooter shoots the other one. It’s still practiced with shot guns by pheasant hunters in England

Love this thank you 😊

I would love to see a latchet with 'fibreglass' prod and dacron string to get an idea of how much improvement the modern materials make. The rest of the bow would be identical

Thanks I never knew about the lachet

You didn’t show any Asian repeating crossbows despite having the earliest archeological finds and the most historical quantity. They were also used during the medieval times in Asia.

Great Video, I would love to see this with the magazine feature.

I was waiting for you to say that you and Jorge were teaming up again to make a 6 foot wide carbon fiber crossbow with a 1 foot draw and a 1000 lbs windlass in order to take the record for worlds most powerful human charged crossbow.

I’d love to see you investigate and compare a classic Chinese crossbow. Not necessarily the crazy repeating one, but I want to know more about things change with their longer power stroke.

10 shots per minute? Onehanded shots? Minimal damage but deadly? That latchet’s the “Hand Crossbow” from DnD.

I finally have a good bow to keep in mind when ttrpgs talk about a hand crossbow

Awesome video as always

@tods_workshop

4 ай бұрын

Thanks

A magnificent example of convergent evolution!

Tod, the "K" in Landsknecht is not silent! And I agree, the latchet crossbow is truly beautiful, it's the first time I saw this and I love it already.

This is so cool. I love this.

I think this really shows that these "assassin's crossbows" weren't designed for actual assassinations, as something like one of these latching crossbows would be FAR more effective for an assassin (double the energy means they're powerful enough to kill an unarmored man much more reliably, plus you can at least nominally defend yourself with it afterwards) while being cheaper, easier and far more discreet to obtain.

@Duiker36

4 ай бұрын

I feel like there's a general misconception that "small" = "for assassins" because they're underhanded or unmanly or something. Most normal assassins just use normal-ass weapons. Using a tiny weapon mostly just makes it less likely you'll kill the target. Small weapons are for when you're designing for lightness and ease-of-use rather than range or lethality or whatever; they're the difference between being unarmed and armed, rather than being lethal and non-lethal.

I'm still working on the spring mechanism that gets lighter in force the more you pull. Do you remember? The assisted instant legolas? Yup, still working on that design.

@LandersWorkshop

4 ай бұрын

Like that guy in Hawk the Slayer with his Crossbow!

I also would love to own the latchet bow, just because of the history, the beauty of the materials . . . Your comment about the plywood and the gib being different measurements made me smile. My grandad built his holiday home from shipping dunnage he recovered from the beaches of Great Barrier Island. It had been thrown overboard from shipping that was leaving port, and the different Nations that shipped here, had different sizes and lengths of dunnage So when we went to put new roofing iron up, it was mindbogglingly difficult, none of the purlings and rafters actually matched up, and you couldn't find a single line for the nailing down of the sheets.

Very interesting, Mr. Todd thank you😊

@tods_workshop

4 ай бұрын

A pleasure

This video makes me really want a latchet crossbow.

Amazing content again, nice to see Joerg's invention. I'd love a discussion about the possibilities of compounds bows in medieval times.

I assume this is the type of crossbow that fantasy games like D&D use else players would use several turns just loading!

@joedoe7041

4 ай бұрын

I might be able to answer your question. so when saying DnD I'm not referring to 5ed(not touching that with a 5ft pole) but pathfinder 1ed(aka 3.9DnD), now Tod's videos have been a BIG help with homebrewing all sorts of new rules for weapons and armor. but to the point. the windless takes 20secs to load up, so in game with each round being 6secs it takes 3 turns to reload with the 3rd round being the shot. with a crannequin taking 14secs to load up, which is 2 round to load up. a goat's foot takes 6secs so takes 1 round to load up. and lastly the latchet only taking 3secs to load, so a shot every round. but I also take into accord how much energy they impart to their target and adjust the damage dice to account for that, so a wingless does 1D12 damage(off the top of my head) with less power going lower. I think the latchet does 1D6 damage.

@Deipnosophist_the_Gastronomer

4 ай бұрын

😁 Dual wielded hand crossbows

@Specter_1125

4 ай бұрын

⁠@@joedoe7041I’m gonna be honest, your comment about not touching 5e with a 5 foot pole comes off as condescending. Despite that, your pole isn’t even long enough. 10ft poles are ideal.

@joedoe7041

4 ай бұрын

@@Specter_1125 is it a sense of an attitude of patronizing superiority. no. but contempt, then yes. 5th ed Dnd is simply a bastardization of a beloved franchise and hobby, by people who couldn't keep their agenda and politics out of the writing or game. no bits or buts, end of story.

Great video! Jeorg has created some amazing things the guy is a modern genius. Similarly, our ancestors were just as innovative with what they had available to them at the time. I hope Jeorg is a made man after all of his hard work getting these design functional and to market, I know he's a humble man that wasn't in it for the money but he certainly deserves it with the effort he's put in ❤️👌

I have the Adder with a 7 shot magazine & a green laser/torch, amazing bit of kit.

Man, I can't believe they had G-23 Paxilon Hydrochlorate in late Elizabethan England!