Come hang out on Twitch! www.twitch.tv/finnmckenty

@xp8969

2 жыл бұрын

Imagine thinking Ska (the genre that Reggae is a subgenre of) is a subgenre of Rock 😂☠️😂☠️

@xp8969

2 жыл бұрын

Imagine thinking 2tone was where Ska started ignoring 30 years of prior history from Jamaica

@xp8969

2 жыл бұрын

And he even mentions Desmond Dekker like he was part of 2tone, learn music history Finn 😂

@xp8969

2 жыл бұрын

🤔 And how can you call MMBT "good" skapunk when they're not even skapunk, they're skacore

@xp8969

2 жыл бұрын

🤡 And you ignored all the REAL good ska punk bands like Operation Ivy and old Less Than Jake

Finn: *hates nerds* Also Finn: Descendents are the founder of pop punk

@viscountrainbows2857

11 ай бұрын

Milo be like 🤓🎸

@ItcamefromtheVorrh

10 ай бұрын

Finn is a nerd too

@jesseaharris

8 ай бұрын

both those things can be true

@BorislavVeselinov

6 ай бұрын

Some nerds are chill and likable.

@r.b.rozier9692

5 ай бұрын

​@@ItcamefromtheVorrhI came here to say this LOL

Finn’s nerd hate is his biggest boomer quality lmao EDIT: I KNOW HES GEN X, THIS CANNOT BE THE FIRST TIME YOU HAVE ENCOUNTERED THE CASUAL USE OF BOOMER TO REFER TO SOMEONE WITH DATED OPINIONS OR PERSPECTIVES

@radshoesbro

2 жыл бұрын

Dude makes his living off talking about subgenres of subgenres and has a one man slam band. He knows he’s a total dork and is clearly including himself amongst those nerds.

@FinnMckentyPRMBA

2 жыл бұрын

Technically it’s like 1.25 people since I don’t do the vocals!

@Spoon8lld

2 жыл бұрын

@@radshoesbro I think that would be more valid if he didn’t use nerdiness as a reason to dislike genres/bands

@radshoesbro

2 жыл бұрын

@@FinnMckentyPRMBA well done.

@ashleybrown4754

2 жыл бұрын

@@radshoesbro He listens to Olivia Rodrigo and wears a Cerebral Incubation shirt. He's a nerd for sure.

As a doom metal fan, watching you struggle to find the vocals on Dopesmoker had me rolling 😂

@slayerfan2

10 ай бұрын

Dopesmoker is an amazing song or album or however it's defined

Finn: "I hate gatekeepers" > Nerd breathes Finn: "YOU FUCKING LOSERS!!!!!"

@robertsteinberger5667

2 жыл бұрын

He doesnt like elitists but looks down on many music fans.....

@Huddle_House56

2 жыл бұрын

Robert Steinberger it’s a schtick..

@sethtrey

Жыл бұрын

Finn carries his gate around and hits whomever he wills with it.

@djentrification1631

Жыл бұрын

@@robertsteinberger5667 It's a joke, dude

@leahflower9924

Жыл бұрын

@@robertsteinberger5667 he doesn't like elitists ha that's why he likes fat mike but not Ben weasel fat mike is a notorious elitist

Finn: "Butt Rock doesn't have nerds in their fanbase." Me wearing a D&D hat and playing Skyrim for my sixth time while listening to Breaking Benjamin: "Hey wait a minute!"

@Loathsome_Lynx

2 жыл бұрын

Theres a difference between liking nerdy shit snd being a nerd.

@frog_king8383

Жыл бұрын

I doubt your smart enough to be a nerd.

@richardlarkin4550

Жыл бұрын

Liking nerdyshit and being a nerd are different. I like anime but I'm not a weeb. There is seperation here.

@danielflanard8274

Жыл бұрын

@@richardlarkin4550 I think geek would be more accurate for most people. I've never been smart enough to qualify as a nerd.

@richardlarkin4550

Жыл бұрын

@@danielflanard8274 it's subjective what a nerd is.

As a butt rock fan I can confirm we’re too busy having jobs and being 40 to get mad about music on the internet.

@sawtooth808

Жыл бұрын

I still listen to and appreciate Jesus And The Mary Chain and Catherine Wheel I’m in my 40’s, and yeah I’m busy with a job mortgage and being married to give a damn, I got bigger concerns than someone opining on music they don’t like. You do you people.

Bro is in his 30’s and still calling people virgins 💀

@lewisb85

Жыл бұрын

40s and its funny!

@BreakneckTV

Жыл бұрын

He wishes he was in his 30s lol

@andrewmaximo4485

11 ай бұрын

Not a virgin, but will listen to prog rock over butt rock any day.

@mike04574

10 ай бұрын

its sarcasm

@boomertuxx

2 ай бұрын

48 year old Virgin here.... I thank Finn fkr getting me into hick hop and Nintendo core

I love how for Finn the world ends with US and Europe, sometimes Korea. Psychobilly had a moment in Latin America. Also Skate Punk has always been huge here. Bands like Millencolin, Nofx, Offspring and Bad Religion always have succes when they come.

@gonzalozamora5715

2 жыл бұрын

And btw, is the US that has to answer for turning ska into whatever the fuck mustard plug is

@holidayonion

2 жыл бұрын

Psychobilly is great, idk what people are on about. Just rockabilly with a high tempo. Living End, Koffin Kats, motherfukin Reverend Horton Heat. Awesome sound with the upright bass slaps and southern edge. Plus, Koffin Kats are a sight to behold live with some of the things Vic and Tommy do with the bass.

@joshabreu1156

Жыл бұрын

Majority of psychobilly fans in SoCal were hispanic kids

@RobVanDelay_WholeFnContest

Жыл бұрын

Im from Latin America and i remember those two weeks

@luca12377

11 ай бұрын

Bad Religion has more Spotify monthly listeners in São Paulo - Brasil than in LA

The shoegaze community is honestly really chill and welcoming. Nice people.

@soundofominous4646

2 жыл бұрын

@ghost mall Never got Jam Bands. Just endless jams that never go anywhere but i suppose that's why it's named like that.

@iaminyourwalls4553

2 жыл бұрын

From my experience I’ll have to disagree. I’ve been listening to mostly just Shoegaze for a while now and most of the people I’ve met who also like it are really toxic and get really rude over simple stuff

@timoratus_music

2 жыл бұрын

@@iaminyourwalls4553 I'm sure there are pockets of toxic people in every genre regardless. But, in our experience in our own shoegaze band (Color Crush) they've almost all universally been very kind to us.

@xxcrysad3000xx

2 жыл бұрын

What's with everything being a "community", that is weird. Back in the day we had "alternative rock" and it was so broad a category that it'd include shoegazers, britpop, post-punk, goth, new wave, indie rock, indie pop, post-rock, post-hardcore, math-rock, ect., and noone was so defensive about the genre they loved the most. There was tons of cross pollination. And i think that's healthier if you're trying to make rock relevant again. Stop siloing off the sub-genres! They're all rock and they're all okay!

@timoratus_music

2 жыл бұрын

@@xxcrysad3000xx Well I completely agree for the most part, it's just natural as there's more genre mixing that each one kind of creates its own little group. You've got stuff like rap rock, blackgaze, and I seemingly endless collection of genres that would seem to have never been able to fit together. More often than not it's just people looking for something that is similar to what they already love which is where these communities spring up and create a bit of an echo chamber. I would too like to see more umbrella terms, but with everything being a little bit of everything else these days I just don't realistically see that happening.

I genuinely really love Shoegaze, it's a really relaxing genre for me and it genuinely calms me down and makes me happy and free. I get why people hate it like Finn, but overall it's helped me a lot be a better person

@brettveldboom2296

2 жыл бұрын

Anything that’s near indie Finn just will not like it, nothing wrong with that just means I’m gonna disagree a lot with this man

@user-bd9ng6je5t

2 жыл бұрын

we do not care

@theabacross1581

2 жыл бұрын

@@brettveldboom2296 I feel like Finn does not like a lot of music that he talks about for some reason. It's weird, I think the only band really likes is like Attack Attack!

@chernobylcoleslaw6698

2 жыл бұрын

Spiritualized FTW!

@Corykurk

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed, shoegaze is amazing

"Hippies are fake chill, and fake nice" TRUE SHIT, never better explained

I will never fully be able to understand if Finn is actually serious or just trolling us! Knowing him, that's just how he wants it to be!

Finn: I love stripper fight music Also Finn: shoegaze is bad

@gavxmas

2 жыл бұрын

How is that a surprise?

@Thundertats

2 жыл бұрын

That's why it's always important to consider the source of any criticism.

@davidwinn2575

2 жыл бұрын

His channel has been blatant click bait for years now.

@stg_tmc

2 жыл бұрын

from MBV to Turnover… wow his knowledge is diverse lol

@simonegigliotti3215

2 жыл бұрын

It's just HIS taste. I love shoegaze and I don't listen to trap music. Doesn't mean I have to hate the guy or I can't enjoy his videos.

The description of Ska as "Getting shoved into lockers-core" had me lol-ing.

@whenfatkillsfat803

2 жыл бұрын

Ironic, since I graduated high school in 99 and a lot of people who bullied me listened to that shit even outside of Sublime. I bet they listen to 5FDP now.

@petergabriel8961

8 ай бұрын

It’s funny he hates the genre but listen to some of the band s

Shoegaze on its own can be pretty dull and underdone sometimes but I feel it’s the spiciest genre to mix something with

@jahime

Жыл бұрын

Ong.

@sadmarinersfan8935

8 ай бұрын

Agreed like with black metal is fantastic

@stewiegriffinfortnight2160

6 ай бұрын

@@sadmarinersfan8935 sunbather being a perfect example

@ilovefuzzycats

Ай бұрын

@@sadmarinersfan8935alcest does it right

Hi. Columbus Ohio here. Was in a Psychobilly band in the middle 2000s. One of my favorite genres. Thing is, it fit (still fits) well enough in punk scenes to not need a dedicated scene to have bands. Yes, just like rockabilly its always gonna be way bigger in Europe. Yes, you run out of songs you can write about zombies pretty quick. So you move on to aliens and keep goin. ;)

@coreybycraft2223

Жыл бұрын

He doesn’t know anything about Psychobilly, Psychobilly is way better in Europe and uk

@psychobillydemon

Жыл бұрын

For sure ! Calling psychos nerds love to see that happen dude would get stomped

@andrewmaximo4485

11 ай бұрын

I was about to say, there has to have been psychobilly acts that have played at Ace of Cups or Newport in Columbus. I don't think any other venues would cater to the genre.

@reverendrevolver6341

11 ай бұрын

@@andrewmaximo4485 newport has. Unsure on AoC, I'm pretty sure Bernies was the easiest place to get booked for anything punk adjacent before it closed. But back then, the punk/hardcore shows at legion halls and such were the most common places to play anything like that.

The funny thing about the jam band scene is that they have their own DIY ethic. It's a largely self-made subculture. They don't try to appeal to a mass audience, they just focus on goofy noodling jams and open air live performances. They may seem annoying, but I can respect their ethos and I can think of far worse scenes.

@matturner6890

Жыл бұрын

It's very welcoming, no "too cool for the room" nonsense, just people who love good music.

@rmaxtpmx

Жыл бұрын

Best shows I've ever been to are jam bands. Just a purely good time. They're only annoying if you're not experiencing it yourself.

@sammy-whirl8500

Жыл бұрын

Great shows

@1travstone

5 ай бұрын

I totally agree and I do not listen to any of the music.

Damn. I like shoe gaze. Finn just knocked on my door and punched me in the gut without even saying why. Then he called me a cuck and I was like… how did he know?

@atrainbrady3208

2 жыл бұрын

I like shoegaze alot and I'm pissed at Finn for putting it on this list.

@xavier4519

Жыл бұрын

imagine the rage when i'm a massive psychobilly fan

I once sent my high school band director a video of me on tour with my metalcore band. I guess I wanted him to know I was still playing drums and to thank him for the short time I spent under his wing. His response was basically “But check this out!” and it was a local ska band. 😅 sometimes you just gotta take the L

If your a bass player ska is incredibly fun to play. I got into it because learning my instrument to Metallica songs and then learning ska, the lines were actually interesting and fun. Also Suicide Machines were amazing ska punk!

"I'd rather listen to fuckin psychobilly" is my new favourite musical insult.

God bless whoever said shoegaze is “thrift store core”, that killed me

@sixty2612

2 жыл бұрын

My favorite was calling hick hop “college game day core”

@MrShenanigans28

2 жыл бұрын

@@sixty2612 I saw that too😂 so true

@swarler

Жыл бұрын

it's so fucking true

Literally only clicked to see if Prog was featured, so that was fun. Prog and fusion are by far my favorite genre of music, and I will never understand why it's not more popular. It's just all the genres at once, often with a sincere effort to be more artistic and adventurous. But, I think more people would enjoy prog if they really dug into it--and realized how much "non-prog" is actually pretty proggy: The Beatles, Funkadelic, Primus, Soundgarden, Radiohead, Muse, Deep Purple, Led Zeppelin, and many, many others were often (or always) very prog.

For some good grind, there's Pig Destroyer. The earliest days are really noisy and violent, which I personally love, but Prowler in the Yard and Terrifyer have more of that hardcore edge, plus grooves and are improved in song structures. You might like that

Shoegaze is GREAT. Shouldn't even be on this list.

@lovo356

2 жыл бұрын

i love that shit man, but i laughed my ass off with this!

@lobesmcgee

2 жыл бұрын

@ghost mall it’s not low effort and it depends on the band, just like any genre.

@iaminyourwalls4553

2 жыл бұрын

In what way is Shoegaze lazy?. That’s one of the genres that allows for the most amount of creativity.

@xenos_n.

2 жыл бұрын

@ghost mall I don't think laziness equates to if music is good or not. There's spectacular minimalist music that is objectively lazy because it barely takes any effort to make.

@Brenno_860

2 жыл бұрын

But shoegaze is not supposed to be super technical or complex, its a genre fundamentally based on atmosphere and dreamy sounds and vocals. You cant judge a genre for not being what it never compromised to be.

"Doom metal fans don't wipe" is my takeaway from this. May this line be immortalised.

@lghjsdtugfkgfjgtru

Жыл бұрын

best quote for sure

@MikhailDaken

Жыл бұрын

@@lghjsdtugfkgfjgtru been a whole year, but as soon as the notification popped up I KNEW it was referencing this. Don't know if that's a bigger indictment of me or doom metal fans.

I didn’t realize turnover wasn’t considered shoegaze, I’d rank them A tier easily. They released a couple of fantastic albums.

Shoegaze is nice, the frequencies of most songs just naturally connects really well. It’s something to chill to.

Thanks Finn for the horrible discovery of “Hick Hop”

@IOxyrinchus

2 жыл бұрын

My life is now significantly worse just knowing it exists

Psychobilly isn't really that bad, it's not great but it's not bad. I think the fans are probably worse than the music. And no you don't blame the Misfits for psychobilly, you blame The Cramps.

@grimmseti

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely this. I went to a psychobilly show once and had fun KINDA, except there was this dumbass greaser dude who dubbed himself the sheriff of the pit and took it upon himself to prevent me from trying to start a mosh pit. His idea of fun seems to be combing his hair. What a nob!

@sickofitall8486

2 жыл бұрын

Hey, it spawned Reverend Horton Heat, so no complaints there.

@ericridenour5506

2 жыл бұрын

I would never pay to go to a show but it can be entertaining in small doses.

@Daeis138

2 жыл бұрын

The Stellar Corpses are a great band.

@brettkihlmire573

2 жыл бұрын

The brains, nekromantix, and koffin cats are pretty good

I'm in Columbus, Ohio. There have been fairly decent sized goth and rockabilly scenes here that had overlap and you can guess what that meant. My friend TJ was in Thee Invaders, who started out in Columbus and moved to Chicago. They billed themselves as "a Psycho, Surf Punk, Garage Rock-n-Roll Space Case with a Hunger for Brains." - Let's face it, that's pretty much psychobilly, they just never had a stand-up bassist nor did they need all of the fancy outfits. Then again, this was 2002-2010. The fact is, I know people here from the goth scene who eat this shit up. Next misclassification of my town where plenty of cool shit happens?

@FinnMckentyPRMBA

2 жыл бұрын

Huh? I lived in columbus for 4 years

@MyPPSad

11 ай бұрын

What a cringe comment

Honestly I enjoy all of these sub genres. I wouldn’t classify any of them as bad just because of them not following the typical song format.

But Finn you forgot the portion of Midwest Emo where it's just 1 guy and an acoustic guitar where he plays riffs that would sound a lot better plugged in.

@benjaminwatt2436

2 жыл бұрын

is that like dashboard confessional?

@andrewr7982

2 жыл бұрын

@@benjaminwatt2436 American Football

@shaolinotter

2 жыл бұрын

the weakerthans count here

@thebiolithic

2 жыл бұрын

Nooo...I had to suffer through dozens of that growing up. I'm sick of emo

I used to love HORSE The Band. Grew out of them as I got older, still listen to a song here or there, but I’ll always respect their world tour documentary. They scrimped and saved to have the once in lifetime opportunity to tour the world on their own terms. Great work ethic, they had a huge goal and they did it. Also I can’t hate Ska, just gives me those childhood memories of watching Nickelodeon vibes.

@poppunkcovers

2 жыл бұрын

Earth tour is life

@Thegreenestemu

2 жыл бұрын

I saw them headline in like '06 and the vocalist was so drunk he fell over on stage and threw up.

@m1k3l1f3

2 жыл бұрын

Hello fellow HORSE fan! I still like I Fight Dragons tho

@OngoGablogian487

2 жыл бұрын

HtB's music aged terribly but New York City still kinda rips

@MrShenanigans28

2 жыл бұрын

Shape shift by horse the band is a masterpiece. And same, ska punk will forever hold a place in my heart. If you want a real blast from the past, look up "reel big fish rice Krispy commercial 2003"...thank me later

my favourite bit about candlemass is they were put forward as 'good music' suggestions when i was first exploring the metals as a teen. Heard the song well before seeing the video so I didn't get they were a bit tongue in cheek. Love them so much, they're like a My Dying Bride that doesn't take itself at all seriously

"I can't imagine what it's like for a woman who wants to make metal." Halestorm, Nightwish, Beyond the Black, Temperance, Within Temptation, Delain, Crystal Viper, Amaranthe, Sleeping Romance, Ad Infinitum, Metalite, Anette Olzon/ The Dark Element, The Pretty Reckless, Shadowside, Sinheresy- I think it must be easier in Europe, for some reason.

@proudHughesfan

2 жыл бұрын

Yet he constantly shits on Europe. Funny cos you would think someone with a broader view and knowledge like him would understand that it's actually America that's stuck behind.

@proudHughesfan

2 жыл бұрын

Btw, not a fan of particular genre I'd say, just like what I enjoy, which can be anything from the most commercial pop/rock thru ska, rap (not the current, most definitely) to terrorcore/speedcore (been my favourite for a few years now). It's funny to me listening to it cos it sounds like he has a license to know what you should like and what not lmao. Not hating, its his right to have opinion and feelings, but also cannot really take him seriously. Its like that Henry Rollins video he made where he criticises him for not following his own advice :p Same can be applied here I guess.

@Sumoniggro

Жыл бұрын

Arch Enemy, Otep, The Agnonist, Epica, Leaves Eyes, Lacuna Coil, Spirit box, JINJER just to add a few

I always love it when Finn helps me realize, that even I have had an above average sex life and social life generally up until this point, and even now that I' m married with 3 kids, that because I love prog and "nerdy" music, I'm actually a friendless virgin. I've seen the light finally!

@gkezele

2 жыл бұрын

@Gondola Isekai oh I’m not really mad or offended or anything, I still love Finns content, I just think he oddly fixates on the social and sexual status of fans a bit too often.

@off6848

2 жыл бұрын

I wish I could take back 3/4th of my fucks ngl

@Meshuggapeth

2 жыл бұрын

@@gkezele Gary, it’s a joke. It’s not about you.

@HeavyMetal-jy4vj

2 жыл бұрын

Although to be fair, you should really try to have a good amount of sex before you get into prog, so that you can be that confident dude with that one weird hobby that makes you charming to women so you can have more sex.

@gkezele

2 жыл бұрын

@@HeavyMetal-jy4vj I just got married and then revealed to my wife that I like prog, that way she’s stuck.

When you can effortlessly go from "This shit can only be popular in Europe and southern California" to "ok let's talk about hick hop next"

I think butt rock fans suffer the same fate as jam band fans as far as being “fake chill.” If you look like you’re one of them they’ll welcome you with open arms but the second you say something they don’t immediately agree with because you thought you were in good company they’ll kick you right the fuck back out again. They’ll both start shit if you tell ‘em they gotta move their car, it’s just instead of a beige 1998 Subaru Outback covered in Grateful Dead and “Coexist” stickers it’s a black 2013 Dodge Charger with a red claw-mark sticker across the passenger-side headlight.

There's a TON of different styles of Nintendocore. Everyone from Atari Teenage Riot to I See Stars has done it. Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas has really done some actual bangers with chiptune and MIDI.

@sawtooth808

Жыл бұрын

I just discovered Die Antwood at where I work.

@LexaLite

Жыл бұрын

Man I loved Atari Teenage Riot

@copsarebastards

Жыл бұрын

Man atari teenage riot is truly unlistenable from what I remember in high-school.

@MusicaObscuraX

Жыл бұрын

Atari Teenage Riot is awesome

@MusicaObscuraX

Жыл бұрын

Try out SkyEatsAirplane

The fact that I can't separate the sarcasm from the serious judgment makes it fucking hilarious to me

@FinnMckentyPRMBA

2 жыл бұрын

I cant either

"I Hate Fun" the tier list.

I've always been into extreme metal and even played in a couple bands.. but the way these neckbeards fans have treated me over the years has made me despise it on a visceral level. Black metal, slam, doom, metalcore, all of it. Any time I look through pictures of shows I played I can just smell the misogynistic condescension and bad hygiene. I still listen to the music of course but I don't play in bands and I keep it to myself to avoid fedora fucks harassing me in public about my band shirt v

@ashleighsalinas8526

2 жыл бұрын

Btw thanks Finn, I feel a lot better now because so few guys will acknowledge this let alone validate women when we talk about the blatant, rampant sexism in rock and metal (or in general) I can still recall being speechless when dudes would come up to me while setting up my rig, like my ovaries rendered me too feeble-minded to plug in a cord or push a button or something, ha! If they actually wanted to help they could have helped me carry in those heavy cabs because I appreciate genuine attempts to help and/or break the ice. I could rant forever so let me stop now lol. Like I do get that it takes nerve for anyone to approach a stranger and talk to them but let's all think more before acting or speaking.. please? If you wouldn't say it to/about a man then stfu basically lol I want to add that my all male bandmates showed me nothing but respect, just like anyone else with no special treatment either, AND dealt with plenty of ridicule for having a skinny little girl in their bands and being accused of only letting me in because they wanted to fuck me, which was insulting to us all but they never once shidded on me to fit in with the douchebag elitists

@yew8707

Жыл бұрын

I think metal is unmatched in-terms of how many neckbeard misogynistic assholes there is. Hopefully in time that changes, woman have made some of the most kickass metal I've heard!

I used to work with this dude who was the biggest metal “elitist”. He would only listen to the most obscure bands and only on cassette. Nothing cool or redeeming about that guy

So spot on when you were talking about women in scenes like modern prog, midwest emo, and the guitar community in general. Whenever you find a band with a female member you see an uncomfortable amount of losers speaking up. Like you say, sometimes they try and mask it as a compliment of her ability but always have to add in some cringe comment about finding her attractive.

@Default78334

2 жыл бұрын

One of my minor obsessions is Japanese girls rock, and dear god are there a ton of creepy weirdos in the fandom.

@MakisKotzampasis

2 жыл бұрын

You are gay. Literally.

@paveantelic7876

2 жыл бұрын

@@Default78334 dont pretend you're not one of them lmaoo

@RevStickleback

2 жыл бұрын

@@Default78334 I'd say at least 1 guy in 50 in society is a creepy weirdo, so it's not surprising. One thing being into Japanese bands does give you, it's the ability to NOT be surprised that a woman can play an instrument well. I've heard reactors make comments like "Wow! She can play better than me!" as if a professional musician playing at a higher level than their pub band is a shock.

@noname-mn9nm

2 жыл бұрын

lmaoo that's literally in every scene

Hick Hop is the car accident of music. It’s awful and really unpleasant, but you can’t look away for some reason. Some mesmerizing shit right there.

@FinnMckentyPRMBA

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@JoinMeInDeathBaby

2 жыл бұрын

Hoods + Woods is the force to be reckoned with💪🏻💪🏿

@GordonSlamsay

2 жыл бұрын

it's so fucking bad. I would have put it below f tier... but it's something you need to experience

@psychotropictraveler514

2 жыл бұрын

Cmon yal, Cowboy Troy is the man!

@off6848

2 жыл бұрын

Have y’all heard that Lil Durk ft Morgan Wallace cut tho? It’s actually good

Regarding My Bloody Valentine specifically, I think you should listen to their first album, "Isn't Anything". Much more raw and noisy and less spacey and dreamy than Loveless, and there's some genuinely catchy songs on there like "When You Wake You're Still In A Dream", "Cupid Come" and "You Never Should". The "You Made Me Realize" EP is also great - "Thorn" and "Drive It All Over Me" are extremely well-written indie pop tunes. Give their earlier stuff a try, you might end up liking it a bit.

@cantbanme8971

Жыл бұрын

I kind of know where you're coming from but Loveless is a masterpiece, if you don't like it you probably just aren't going to like MBV

Finn: “I don’t like hippies, reminds me of my parents.” ::MORGAN FREEMAN NARRATOR VOICE:: “It was then that we all realized that Finn just needed a hug very badly.”

Finn not realizing he’s a nerd as well is my favorite. MMA nerd making fun of music nerds. I love it! 🥰 it’s like a 2000s teen comedy! Soundtrack will be all Ska and Nintendocore! 🤣😂 Good video! Love when you do tier list!

@TheMisfits7783

2 жыл бұрын

I see him as a waaayyyyy more successful version of myself So yes your correct

@BigOwl51

2 жыл бұрын

I think he’s aware of his nerd status. He’s acknowledged it in the past

@FinnMckentyPRMBA

2 жыл бұрын

I used to think I was a nerd but now after meeting so many actual nerds I realize I'm not at all

@BiggityBoggity8095

2 жыл бұрын

@@FinnMckentyPRMBA what is a nerd? I always thought a nerd was just someone who was really interested in something. If you’re into MMA so much that you’ve actually fought then you’re an MMA nerd

@tonypguitareok1

2 жыл бұрын

Finn is definitely a nerd, but hates geeks and dorks which is understandable

Horse did a 10hr documentary called Earth Tour. I can't knock them after that dedication going to a country that Americans were forbidden from. They consider themselves 'future punk' and would likely refuse the nintendo core label. To me they are just diy hardcore through and through.

@poppunkcovers

2 жыл бұрын

100%! The examples in this video is their old stuff, which has its charm. Their 2009 album is really great. If somebody says it sucks they're just being dicks on purpose.

@TheMutantMindframe

2 жыл бұрын

def a terrible take on horse the band. they're one of the greatest to ever do it. a natural death, desperate living, and the your fault EP originals are all amazing

@poppunkcovers

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheMutantMindframe For sure! 100% agree

@codynoeller2551

2 жыл бұрын

Was just watching earth tour vol2. The beginning speech by the Chinese translator they were with is touching af

@commondog3956

2 жыл бұрын

NIACIN!! Long live Horse.

Once saw Phish(had a friend that we would go to each others shows,punk for me) and their encore was almost as long as their concert was.Crazy stuff but a fun crowd.And not to mention grilled cheese and cilantro cooked on an engine so they can get to the next show.Good stuff

How did you put Godsmack and breaking benjamin in the same category?

Shoegaze is when you discover that mixing effects pedals sounds so great that you stop taking guitar lessons

@peteacip

2 жыл бұрын

This.

@eboethrasher

2 жыл бұрын

Who the fuck needed lessons? You can learn everything you need on your own, that's the punk spirit.

@whenfatkillsfat803

2 жыл бұрын

The irony considering your avatar of bald Chicago Morrissey.

@oozeman23

Жыл бұрын

Best description of the genre I've heard so far ...

@lolitaexpress

Жыл бұрын

Guitar lessons are for 36 yr olds trying to plagiarize sweet child of mine or motley moo riffs

Three things I love: midwest emo, shoegaze, and Finn Mcenty! Thanks for a good roast, made me laugh!

@xXChaosChelleXx

2 жыл бұрын

@Lucas Logg I like you, Dude!

Finn! What is that typeface you use? I love it! I want it! I did a quick scrub through the timeline, but I couldn't see the fonts toolbar in Photoshop there.

@FinnMckentyPRMBA

Жыл бұрын

Its called Liberator

@YOYOTh1s

Жыл бұрын

@@FinnMckentyPRMBA thanks.

I think there is some new doom/stoner stuff that is coming out that is pretty creative. High priest of Saturn comes to mind, though they broke up their keyboardist really made the band super unique, I haven’t found anything that sounds like them since I’ve started listening to them. Spaceslug is also a really good band.

@pavelmakarov3565

Жыл бұрын

Pigs x7 are killing it too

@jetaimemina

9 ай бұрын

and Elder, who won 2022 doomcharts album of the year

I’m gonna be that one annoying genre parser. Dream pop =/= shoegaze and stoner =/= Doom. There’s plenty of doom bands that don’t sound like Sabbath.

@jakeybball

2 жыл бұрын

Pallbearer is not rehashing Cathedral or Sleep whatsoever in my opinion. Agree on the EHG shit though even though I love the Nola sludge scene.

@LuciusGeronimo

2 жыл бұрын

Dream Pop is Shoegaze without the distortion

@off6848

2 жыл бұрын

@@jakeybball I’m from Nola and have kicked the dog food 11 times in my life it just hits different when you’ve lived it and I love God but it’s that good

@youngtundra478

2 жыл бұрын

@@jakeybball Heartless by Pallbearer was such a well rounded metal album.

@user-xg6zz8qs3q

2 жыл бұрын

Why the rigid categories!? The "good" shoegaze albums don't squarely fit into shoegaze. I mean the Cocteau Twins bridge shoegaze and dreampop. Albums that squarely fit into one unique genre are generic and boring. And shoegaze gets really generic, especially with newer releases. Same could be said about Post Rock and Prog.

The butt rock fan base is to busy working making big money with a 2022 Ram truck Diesel engine with a POW MIA bumper sticker and possibly an American flag on the cab glazing through the fresh freedom wind of the US while saying "HELL YA BROTHER! AMEN BROTHER!"

Midwest Emo is so fun. I get why people call it shit but it's genuinely such heartfelt music

Finn’s commentary about nerds had me laughing so hard that I messed up the dragon miniature I was painting

Finn never fails to show his ignorance when he claims to love poppunk but fails to realize the massive influence midwest emo has had on pop punk.

@atfagent4208

2 жыл бұрын

Ok

@eboethrasher

2 жыл бұрын

Ya could have just put the period after ignorance and stopped there.

@Pescasaurus

2 жыл бұрын

@@eboethrasher touche

@oopsydaizi3s824

Жыл бұрын

That’s crazy

Watching your channel is a really unique experience for me. Somehow watching a guy talk about music isn’t insufferable when our opinions on music couldn’t be different

Definitely agree with the "Doom Metal" commentary. I prefer the more Stoner Rock slice if the genre. I like Kyuss and Queens of the Stone Age. Drone and Post Metal is cool too, but definitely creatively bankrupt.

I always get a kick out of a music nerd shitting on other types of nerds for being nerdy

@Grapesoda-is7ti

2 жыл бұрын

He talks about subgenres along subgenres, wears a Cerebral Incubation t-shirt, simps over Linh and has a Slam solo project. Quite a nerd to me

Respectfully disagree about Propagandhi. They put on a sick show, have good songs, are genuine guys, and truly believe in what they say.

@spider-scott8438

2 жыл бұрын

Idk if you haven't noticed, but Finn hates any band that doesn't align with his hyper capitalist grind set point of view. RATM, Propagandhi and so on.

@kohhna

2 жыл бұрын

@@spider-scott8438 Yes, and thats what I'd credit his strange dislike of SOAD whilst being a ride or die Slipknot apologist.

@off6848

2 жыл бұрын

Man I love that Propaghandhi album that and Carlos Jobim are the only two vinyls I’ve ever owned

@spider-scott8438

2 жыл бұрын

@@kohhna totally.

@spider-scott8438

2 жыл бұрын

@@diydylana3151 shitty grind core isn't the opposite of capitalist. It's not about the music but about the message. He hates propagandhi and RATM politically, not sonically is my guess.

I mean, it's not an everyday listen for me, but psychobilly has a really cool sound. Horrorpops are great, Necromantix are great, and just anything with a upright bass in it has a really good sound to it

@shaolinotter

2 жыл бұрын

tiger army is worth checking out imo

@corycox618

2 жыл бұрын

Koffin Kats ftw

@TimBitten

2 жыл бұрын

Zombie Ghost Train did it well too. “Buried Next to the King” is a fuckin banger of a tune.

@humanbutchery9412

2 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/mq1_w7Rmg9fHhs4.html fuck nekromantix and horror pops check out some pure psychobilly

@KaosProject21

2 жыл бұрын

We all discovered this guy because he put punkrock in his name, only to be unpleasantly surprised by the misadvertisment... he canned psychobilly and ska, then worshipped five finger death punches cock like a little girl... his wife would probably love to cheat, but she's afraid of getting her other eye blacked...

What kind of sub genre does the song Mr. Jones by Counting Crows fall under?

@tylerbasham1491

2 жыл бұрын

Mom picking you up from middle school music

Chill out Henry Rollins, just because you were bullied as a kid by nerds doesn't mean you need to lash out.

Shoegaze is the genre most affected by whether you're stoned or not when you first hear it. Then it clicks and you love it forever, basically living the flashback.

@banyarling

2 жыл бұрын

@ghost mall kind of a joke, because Loveless would have been a revelation and changed my life either way. I haven't blazed in years and still listen to it.

@atrainbrady3208

2 жыл бұрын

Shoegaze is a very good genre and I'm a pretty big fan of it.

@banyarling

2 жыл бұрын

@@atrainbrady3208 same. Saturated with soundalikes but what genre isn't.

@eboethrasher

2 жыл бұрын

@ghost mall yet what you are clearly not intelligent enough to realize is that a lot of Grateful Dead has the same effect on people. You know who bought the very first e-bow shown at NAMM? Jerry Garcia.

Loveless by My Bloody Valentine is on of the greatest albums of all time

@rorz999

Жыл бұрын

It's better than Finn will ever achieve so I'm not sure why he was so hard on it

@abyssosque

Жыл бұрын

@@rorz999 fax lmao this just seems so conceited, you cant rank something thats subjective and try to pass it as fact

Pop punk can be VERY ANNOYING! But it really depends on who the band is. Billy Idol's old punk rock band GENERATION X was sort of viewed the same way GREEN DAY, GOOD CHARLOTTE, and BLINK 182 is now by certain people in the punk scene (what's left of it). LEMMY KILMISTER of MOTORHEAD was once asked in an interview if rock n roll was going to live on in future generations and he said ,"of course, but you're not going to like it and that's the way it supposed to be." Each generation has there own sound, and naturally gen x'ers like myself tend to cling to what we know and the younger crowd might see BLACK FLAG or MINOR THREAT as oldies music or something. By the way I have to disagree about Psychobilly music. The Cramps were awesome!

You literally started talking about Hippies and being high at minute 4:20 LOL how ironic - Love your stuff Finn! Such great content. Keep up the great work.

shoegaze is definitely nerdy. i love it😁

@IOxyrinchus

2 жыл бұрын

Unironically the Chaddest genre of music

@user-xg6zz8qs3q

2 жыл бұрын

The shoegaze genre is just too specific to evolve beyond the 5~10 great albums. I unconsciously branched out into Dream Pop, Folk, Post Rock or Psychedelic music.

@atrainbrady3208

2 жыл бұрын

Shoegaze is definitely one of the best genre's.

"Who leaves foot related comments under Yvette Young' instagram posts" As a fan of Yvette who also follows her, I've seen those comments way too often

@YumiVanherck

2 жыл бұрын

Same. She's one of my guitar heroes and I respect her so much for what she went through but her fanbase, or at least the male part, is gross.

How would you rank hybrid music (bands that don't stick to a single genre)

I think going through the rabbit hole of metal, towards the deep core, it’s hard for me to decipher which band is grindcore, slamcore, and deathcore anymore. Bands like Signs of the Swarm and Within Destruction are being tagged as Slam and Deathcore, while bands like Analepsy and Visions of Disfigurement are teetering between Slam and Grindcore. That’s why this tier list is a bit confusing, and why I have some genres in other spots. Lol.

This one made me laugh out loud multiple times. Thank you for just being real and taking the piss out of the audience 😂 and I love shoegaze and grindcore!

Not gonna lie.... I really love psychobilly. Like, a lot. I love it. It is quirky, weird, and I love it.

me tuning into anew finn vid i havent seen :D me finding out why we 're never getting a what happened to nintendocore video :(

A friend of mine said shoegaze is "background music", which I took as a dig and a compliment ahaha. When I want to passively listen to music, shoegaze is one of my go to genres, I love it. I used to be that guy who would go on and on about how amazing My Bloody Valentine were - looking back now I cringe so much. Fellow shoegaze fans, don't be old me, please, it's embarrassing when you think people care about your music taste just as much as you do ahaha.

@phaaaze9984

2 жыл бұрын

This was me with progressive metalcore like 10 years ago with bands like Protest the Hero and BTBAM. I still love those bands but realize literally no one else cares and they don’t have to. PSA to high school and college aged peeps: don’t make your favorite genre your entire personality. No one will like you haha

@benkendall5562

2 жыл бұрын

@@phaaaze9984 It's literally the same thing as wearing t shirts with cheese on all the time and always talking about cheese. It's one aspect of the entirety of you, an aspect that not only barely represents you, but a boring aspect to 99% of people ahaha. I'm 26 and still see people way older than me make music (primarily metal/djent) their entire being and it's so sad.

@flyingdart9819

2 жыл бұрын

@@phaaaze9984 I use the technique of listening to so many genres I can't make one genre my entire personality.

@eboethrasher

2 жыл бұрын

@ghost mall If you have a pedalboard full of Strymon pedals, you are a) a newer person into shoegaze or b) someone who has too much money to blow on pedals. I'm still using the same Boss pedals that I've been using for goth/shoegaze for the last 20+ years. I don't have the money nor the desire to switch it up. The only thing I've done since is made a separate pedal tray for my bass and that was 12 years ago. Some of those pedals sound great, sure, but I'd rather spend less money on pedals and spend the rest on other stuff. Seriously, my entire Boss guitar effects rig probably cost less than one or two of the "boutique" pedals that people jizz over these days. And I wouldn't trade it.

When Finn said he can’t imagine someone listening to doom not smoking weed. I feel this, but also, here I am 💁🏻‍♀️ straight edge & vegan for almost 20 years & I loooove doom metal 😆😅. (& this channel🤙)

@Jonathan-gj1rl

2 жыл бұрын

Had to throw in vegan for no reason at all 😂 definitely a vegan move

@rainbowslushy223

Жыл бұрын

Non if orange goblin smoke weed either

@RockLibertyWarrior

10 ай бұрын

Good on you, I'll go get a nice, juicy steak now and after I'll listen to Electric Wizard.

Turnover's Peripheral Vision album is incredible. One of the rare occasions where I can listen to it start to finish without skipping a track. 10/10

"they're virgins, that can be annoying" lmao im dead

Finn really seems obsessed with not being labeled a "nerd" and making sure the stuff he likes is "cool" (makes sense why he likes shitty "boss bitch" rap) which is so sad as a man that's clearly +30. I stopped caring about that shit when I was 14.

@ilikedeadstuff

2 жыл бұрын

Him hating on psychobilly surprised me. Such a self promoting super underground scene that doesnt wanna be part of mainstream culture. Pure DIY. Thought he would have a little respect for that as a musical know it all.

@Grapesoda-is7ti

2 жыл бұрын

What's "boss bitch rap"?

@Luissv72

2 жыл бұрын

@@Grapesoda-is7ti Doja Cat, Cardi B, Megan Thee Stallion, etc

@s3lfFish

2 жыл бұрын

hahaha totally true

@Grapesoda-is7ti

2 жыл бұрын

@@Luissv72 So mainstream female rappers?

Horse the band is Awesome, especially Desperate Living. Kinda salty about it, but we all have different tastes lol.

@todd_halfacre

2 жыл бұрын

I also LOVE horse the band. Just started vid so I’m assuming he talks shit. Gives me a sad. But to each their own

@todd_halfacre

2 жыл бұрын

Ok Horse is unlistenable…. And also Five finger has some bangers. K.

@jamesfinch1706

2 жыл бұрын

It was this point where I dipped out.

Whereas I would've placed Midwest Emo in the S Tier musically, you're 100% correct about it's fans. They're so awful they can't even have a civil shitposting/meme group about the genre.

@lemonscented7703

2 жыл бұрын

Literally being from the Midwest I can definitely agree, and I think that extends into Indie Pop too. You get a lot of folks that seem like just misdirected and awkward but well-meaning and ultimately harmless outcasts, and then you get to know em better and wind up finding out they’re some of the most elitist, manipulative, emotionless folks you’ve ever met. No amount of internet memes featuring sarcastic Word Art captions in all lowercase font could ever be self-aware enough to excuse how awful some members of the community can get.

@thedappermagician6905

2 жыл бұрын

Weird. Maybe being in Chicago I'm isolated from that because much of the Midwest Emo fans are also Hardcore fans. But the Midwest Emo fans tend to be the absolute chilliest in comparison.

I love shoegaze, ska, and midwest emo! My SO doesn't like those genres, but really likes doom, grind, and slam. He likes jam bands, which I also like, the most. We're both into older prog bands like Jethro Tull and Yes. I have to say that Propagandhi is my favourite band of all time, and it saved my life when I found it in my teens. You'd probably hate me and my friends if you were to ever run into us at a bar, but I'm still a pretty big fan of your videos. Some of the things you say about the fan bases of even my favourite genres are just too true and hilarious; I won't deny that they apply to me sometimes. I'm a fairly pretentious nerd, but I must admit I'm FAR from being a virgin; I was a major whore until I decided to date this guy.

Great video dude! I love these tier list videos. The key to enjoyment is always keeping your ego in check and just have fun with it. Thanks bro!

I don’t like the idea of lumping classic 70’s prog fans with modern prog metal/djent bands. I feel like they’re two separate sub cultures. I love Yes, King Crimson, Genesis etc, but couldn’t care less for Polyphia or Periphery. Most of the people that I know who prefer old school prog aren’t really interested in the modern scene. best!

I'm just wondering why I'm sitting in middle of the middle-east watching this video at midnight

I absolutely love shoegaze, and am in a shoegaze project, but it’s totally cool if you don’t dig it! Love your videos! I did feel a bit called out for playing my jazzmaster in my chuck taylors, because that’s me at literally every gig I play hahahaha

Damn I feel so attacked as a fan of ska, psychobilly, Midwestern emo while drinking craft beer and sporting a beard.

I didn't like Nintendocore but we needed that moment to get Electronicore, which I LOVE. Same with Crunkcore. I knew it was bad but unironically loved it because it was fresh and new and different and I could hear the good well-produced song that was intended. As you, Finn, mentioned before I believe, we needed Crunkcore to have Hyper Pop today. I feel that way about both Electronicore and Crunkcore, we needed those genres to get Emo Rap, Trapcore and Hyper Pop today. Does that make up for the music originally being bad? I do think so, at least a little. I think a bad genre that influenced many popular genres years later deserves to be given extra credit.

@mediahits9683

2 жыл бұрын

yeah nintendocore happened in the 00's, lots of noise kids, ex-ravers and lo-fi hip hoppers had their hacked gameboys making their one man/woman noise projects. It was very one layered but it went on to add to other genres of music. For sure it is dated. Yes, Finn is correct people still make this, but it's only the biggest fedora hat tipping, neckbeards, late to the game.

@ayranbarbarian

2 жыл бұрын

Kids who like crunkcore are named Cael

@justsomeguywhocommentsonev4741

2 жыл бұрын

Nintendo music is actually amazing though. How did they screw it up?

@nuancedhistory

2 жыл бұрын

@@mediahits9683 Nintendocore is WAY older than that. The first Nintendocore bands were in the late 70's. HorsetheBand just coined a term that gave it a name. It's actually quite a huge subgenre and tons of bands have done it, and some have done it really well.

@K0sm1cKid

2 жыл бұрын

@@mediahits9683 Yo, nintendocore is better than it's ever been. Check out Starcutter or Nuerra. Or the most recent Zombieshark album. Some nintendocore OGs are still in the game.

I absolutely love ska and I laughed like a dumbass during the ska section! I've been loving your content man, keep up the great work and keep being unfiltered!

@FinnMckentyPRMBA

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks man!

@thebiolithic

2 жыл бұрын

Ska rocks! Don't give it up!

Finn, it’s not endurance. It’s called LSD 😂😭 as a dude who played in a jam band. I FUCKING AGREE.

"Grindcore is bad, this is the grind im into" *plays the worst false grind on the internet*

@Abasedbymygrief

Жыл бұрын

Meat shits are racist too lmao

@dono2926

5 ай бұрын

What, Brutal Truth? That's a great band.

I think u could do an entire episode about the countless self-coined sub-sub-sub-sub-SUBgenres of Black Metal 🤣

I love midwest emo. I completely understand why people meme on it but I think deep down everyone else likes it too

Wrong when it comes to shoegaze, it's the ambient sound of the brain.