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@aaroncutting

Жыл бұрын

Can you guys send one of your researchers to the alternate world of Falling Skies? I'd be curious to see your take on it.

@pronumeral1446

Жыл бұрын

I noticed that the Aschen and Tokra were both absent from your rankings. Good video otherwise.

@jamesgaddis6189

Жыл бұрын

The Wraith are either a Superpower or still a Hyperpower. Labeling them a Great Power is premature. The Genii are still weak in comparison and the SGC left the Pegasus galaxy. There are no true rivals to the Wraith. However, the status quo will continue. But the SGC should always remember, "Wraith are never-ending". They know about Earth and are unlikely to give up. Todd (the Wraith) knows this, as does the SGC.

@myrddinemrys1332

Жыл бұрын

Asurans. Not Asurians.

@BlazingOwnager

Жыл бұрын

There's another factor with the Goa'uld not considered in the video unfortunately; most of the Goa'uld technology was basically stolen from the Ancients. Meaning most Goa'uld didn't even know how it worked entirely and could not improve upon it, just replicate it. It really explains why they were so stagnant and adds another big reason why they have virtually no industrial worlds beyond even technology suppression.

The Free Jaffa Nation in 1997 was just Teal'c. so clearly an undisputed hyper power.

@AGTheOSHAViolationsCounter

Жыл бұрын

Indeed

@AkalaTanara

Жыл бұрын

@@AGTheOSHAViolationsCounter -raises eyebrow-

@RockyX456

Жыл бұрын

Teal'c AND Master Bratac. It was Bratac who fostered the hostile Goauld sentiments in him to begin with during his years of training after all.

@barbiquearea

Жыл бұрын

@@RockyX456 There were other disillusioned Jaffa like Garek though they did not openly rebel against their Goa'uld masters until after Teal'c and SG1 had weakened the Goa'uld.

@AGTheOSHAViolationsCounter

Жыл бұрын

@@RockyX456 *speaks softly with great reverence and a slightly bowed head* Indeed. . .

I don't know if I'm gonna agree, but I'm just happy to see people make Stargate content.

@anarchosnowflakist786

Жыл бұрын

this makes me want to watch it again !

@Zeknif1

Жыл бұрын

Indeed.

@Dark__Thoughts

Жыл бұрын

Yeah. My opinion is simply that I miss Stargate. SGU obviously wasn't great but I think there was and still is a lot of potential left. The wraiths were also kind of a slow burn but the ori era was pretty awesome again.

@dadalablade

Жыл бұрын

Yeah i want to watch it again too

@Lomhow

Жыл бұрын

Totally true, I'm just glad people remember it existed

I always loved how Amanda Tapping reacted to Richard Dean Anderson horrible muzzle safety in the "This is a weapon of war" speech.

@Spartan1312

Жыл бұрын

Yeah given the right conditions he could have beaten Alec Baldwin to the shot.

@greganator111

Жыл бұрын

@@Spartan1312 At least Unlike Baldwin, RDA has proper trigger discipline.

@Spartan1312

Жыл бұрын

@@greganator111 Yeah and the production was not retarded and did not have live ammo on set.

@GRODON7

Жыл бұрын

I showed that video to so many people it's so funny

@lucascoval828

Жыл бұрын

@@greganator111 "ALEC, NOOOOO!!!!!"

Those Goolds are a pain in the neck. I don’t know how the Jaffa could stomach them for so long.

@revan0890

Жыл бұрын

Ha! Also Goa'uld

@TemplinInstitute

Жыл бұрын

*pain in the stomach

@NimbleBard48

Жыл бұрын

nooice!

@herdsire90210

Жыл бұрын

Goo's a hyperpower 👀

@roundbrick4890

Жыл бұрын

The Goo-Allds

I like the fact that when Earth sticks it's nose out into the galaxy, we just destabilize and wreak havoc on the powers that be.

@hulmhochberg8129

Жыл бұрын

Ofc humans are space orcs.

@stephenkenney8290

Жыл бұрын

Yup, SGC operations for many years could be summed up with two words. LEROY JENKINS!!!

@zobblewobble1770

Жыл бұрын

Yeah we were basically the Sea people in a Galactic version of the Bronze Age Collapse (for non-history-nerds, Bronze Age collapse was a 50 year period starting in 1200bc where several great civilizations were destroyed, Egypt and Greece had a dark age, and mysterious nomads known as the Sea people wrecked everyone)

@pseudonym9599

Жыл бұрын

Humans are space orcs.

@cheeseninja1115

Жыл бұрын

@@zobblewobble1770 that's probably the best way to describe the events of SG. Also love the fact that WE are the Sea People this time

This is one of the few show were Earth beating the advance empire actually makes sense.

@allengilbert7463

Жыл бұрын

The show put in the work, showing the characters experimenting with the new technology and incorporating it.

@TheArklyte

Жыл бұрын

Except it doesn't. Sadly authors dropped the ball heavily by just deleting all other galactic powers and gifting all the tech in one stroke. Universe was trying to be BSG 2.0, but main series was denied becoming new Deep Space 9/Babylon 5 with diplomatic focus. Asurans and hybrids should have been stuck in Cold War over Pegasus, while both fighting Wraiths. Meanwhile Goa'uld should have still stayed a threat in Milky Way, just with a set borders so conflict between Earth/Asgard and System Lord's would have gone through the Free Jaffa Nation and Lucien Alliance(should I remind you that Goa'uld were infiltrating SGC and Earth whenever they wanted with no problem?).

@Saiyan0X

Жыл бұрын

@@TheArklyte It makes sense, specially with the Goa'uld, since their whole structure was easy to be destroyed, since they are not unified and were at war with each other, and specially with the Replicators focusing on them, as the mayor power in the Milky Way. They began infiltrating Earth because they realized they couldn't beat them head on, which forced them to use methods they are not used to. Asurans would have been more trouble, but they decided to remain in one planet, and you know what happen in the end. The Wraith kind of have the same troubles like the Goa'uld in that they are not unified, but battling each other. Makes sense "smaller" powers like Earth took advantage of it and remained low, gaining new tech, and now that they hit the motherload with Asgard Tech, they become the top dog. Also, their R&D departments were VERY effective. They were not X-Com levels of research, but to be able to build a functioning spaceship using some alien tech (Prometeus) and then be able to reproduce Asgard-level tech after getting their technology in just a few years is quite impressive.

@TheArklyte

Жыл бұрын

@@Saiyan0X 1)just like authors you have no idea what feudal, caste and slave societies are and how they work. No matter how many Goa'uld leaders you'd kill, there will ALWAYS be someone right beneath them to take their place. Yes, their territories would splinter, but the Goa'uld in general would not lose territory. They're still controlling the galaxy at large. Jaffa aren't slaves, they're servants and sometimes slave owners. Jaffa and humans aren't on the same level in power hierarchy of Goa'uld and high position ones like Tealc were even higher then some Goa'uld. Have people forgotten existence of expendable Goa'uld assassins? Closer comparisons for Jaffa would be samurai and janissary classes(the latter ones ironically started as slave soldiers before rapidly turning balance of power on its head). You must also realize that damage done to Goa'uld colonies by Replicators translates directly to human and jaffa population and even basic biomes of Milky Way. Remember all those full of life and Canada looking worlds SG-1 visited, that were painfully slow terraformed by seeder ships like Destiny? They're all gone, devoid of life or completely devoured for raw resources by Replicators. Countless trillions dead... IF the show had remembered about that. It didn't. Nobody talks about aftermath of Replicator invasion. Goa'uld were infiltrating the show at any point they wanted. Snatch captain of Prometheus on Atlantis mission? Okay. And Lucien Alliance continued to do so after that. Meaning that Earth is simply incapable of defending itself from infiltration. 2)yes, show authors had written themselves into the corner and made Asurans the same as Replicators. I guess Wraith and Asgard are the same as they're both biological. So they killed them off just like all other inconvenient plot points. Show constantly did it. And then constantly returned killed off factions when authors needed them to resolve something once again. Asgard came back in Atlantis under other name, Lucien Alliance is just Goa'uld stand in because authors realized that they lack a season villain. 3)X-301 was impressive, Daedalus was impressive, Prometheus was impressive(though questionable in design as a ship). Getting Asgard tech for free WASN'T. It was undeserved. Haha, now you have most advanced tech ever. Without SG programm even becoming known to populace. Woohoo \/(-_-)\/

@Thuazabi

Жыл бұрын

@@TheArklyte cry harder. Every fictional universe makes use of contrivances, and your beloved DS9 and BSG we're full of just as many eye rolling examples.

The implication that our nonstop shitshow of warfare on Earth is actually very rare and puts us in a somewhat unusual position was always an interesting take.

@ausaskar

Жыл бұрын

Eh, there's been a few episodes with worlds with rival nation states like Earth. Like the uhh... "bad people" in the Fuhrerbunker and those people in a three way Cold War and the other world having a historical conflict as to whether the Star Gate actually existed or was just a myth.

@Jesus_Offical

Жыл бұрын

@@ausaskar man the bad pepole in the "fuhrerbunker" one i found so upsetting If SG1 had showed just a little patience they coud have had their cake and eat it two

@Grivehn

Жыл бұрын

@@Jesus_Offical They willingly gave up the technology they got for free essentially. Wasnt even the only time it happened, just one of the most egregious. Technology is technology, I always disliked how picky they were, and it was still rewarded in the end. Sure, its a moral story in the end, but we ALL know the US military (or any other earthern state) wouldnt bat an eye acquiring technology from space genociders.

@chrisbuckley7345

Жыл бұрын

In the context of the known galaxy of SG-1, it makes sense. The worlds where the Goa'uld had control weren't allowed to engage in ongoing warfare. Hard on the slave count, and teaches bad habits. And since they seeded the known human worlds and killed off most other minor powers, that pretty much leaves the other 1st-gen powers. The Asgard are so monolithic that even a "minor" criminal like Loki is a big deal, and the others are either pacifists-in-hiding or extinct.

@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547

11 ай бұрын

@@Jesus_Offical operation paperclip two, airforce boogaloo

I feel like the Tok'ra should have been included, especially over the Jaffa Nation or Lucian Alliance in 1997. However understand why they were probably left out. Other than that really enjoyed seeing Stargate content!

@alexanderrahl7034

Жыл бұрын

I mean, I'm only like, 8 or 9 seasons deep into SG1. But so far it looks like the Tok'ra are pretty much out of the race. It's never definitively stated how many or how big they are, just that they are small and covert. But the previous seasons have shown Anubis, Ba'al, and Osiris stomp the hell out of them something fierce, to the point where I genuinely thought they had pretty broken, but they kept coming up in the show. The Free Jaffa too seemed down and out, but Teal'c managed to keep recruiting them seemingly as fast as they died. Which felt a bit ex machina to me.

@KingOfMadCows

Жыл бұрын

The Tok'Ra have no way of reproducing since they don't have queens so they're probably going to go extinct in a few hundred years. Unless they figure out a way to clone their original queen or get a non-evil queen from the Goa'uld's original homeworld.

@JonathanLundkvist

Жыл бұрын

@@alexanderrahl7034 I would say the Tokra and Free Jaffa prob merged at some point.

@alexanderrahl7034

Жыл бұрын

@@JonathanLundkvist I know they tried to work together. But sometime around season 6 or 7 they broke their alliance with the tau'ri and split off because neither of them could stand working with the other

@seththomas3418

Жыл бұрын

In Continuum the Tokra are shown to have finally settled down in their own world with their own city. However, as the death of Selmec shows, the Tokra at this rate will be extinct in a few years to decades leaving only the human hosts to carry on their name.

Stargate was such a major part of my childhood, loved all the world building and lore aspects. It's so awesome seeing being kept alive by fans to this day!

I just wish they had had another season of Atlantis. Man, what a great series.

@cavveman

Жыл бұрын

Completely agree here. The last episode felt so rushed. That could have benefited from being 2 episodes or more to be fair. Also, I miss Destiny, by the time it got shut down it really started to become really good.

@Grivehn

Жыл бұрын

There was a 6th season planned, I recall even episodes were planned out for the most part. There are also a bunch of books closing down Pegasus story, so it did end, and I would think thats canon. Agreed on SGU. It had potential, and it was getting good.

@Khronogi

Жыл бұрын

All of them should have kept going. I even liked the 9th and 10th seasons of sg1. Sure it felt like a spinoff or sequel, but it was still fun.

@enderkool

Жыл бұрын

yeah stargate really went to an abrupt end. in 2008 ppl were expecting plenty of SG1 movies, 6th season of atlantis, and a new show. by 2010 the SG1 movies were scrapped, atlantis didn’t get a 6th season OR movie, and SGU was cancelled.

@chrisk3127

Жыл бұрын

if only MGM didn't go bankrupt

Loved the arc of SG-1 and Atlantis. All the progress the Tau’ri made felt earned over time

@Jesus_Offical

Жыл бұрын

Yeahs

For the most part I *indeed* would agree with most of the positions with 2 notable exceptions. 1.) In SG Atlantis, this is that one surviving faction of rogue Asgard who I'd consider to be a small power. 2.) There's still the question of post-Ori Human civs & whether or not they're unified (thus hyper) or divided (various levels) in their galaxy. This has been a delightful addition to the "Ranking Galactic Powers" series. I look forward to the next one.

@dominic.h.3363

Жыл бұрын

I highly doubt that the Ori even allowed the use of the stargates, let alone have any DHD if they can just dial using their staff. I think it's safe to say that they left a bunch of planetary societies with no way of contact between them, therefore they are not on this scale. As for the Vanir as the rogue Asgard were called, however unscrupulous they are, they are completely disinterested in any dealings but their own, so regardless of their technological capabilities, they are not a power, because they have absolutely no intention to project it on any scale.

@dominic.h.3363

Жыл бұрын

@@leodouskyron5671 In the entirety of season 9 and 10 I've never seen any off-worlder on any of the Ori planets who weren't soldiers or priors themselves. You dismiss how useful it is to keep communities isolated to keep any deviance from the preferred way of life to a smaller group. Once you turn travel into a galactic free-for-all, there is no way you can enforce order, and reacting to an undesirable occurrence after the fact with free travel leaves no way of knowing whether it has already spread to different places or not. For total ideological control, which the Ori were kinda big on, preventing Stargate travel is a very reasonable thing to do.

@occultatumquaestio5226

Жыл бұрын

​@@dominic.h.3363 ; I would point out that they would still have their FTL capable spaceships and knowledge how to use them. Even after _Ark of Truth._ So whether or not they have a Stargate network is not really relevant. And the Ori themselves are no longer around to prevent anything. Hence why any analysis of a Post-SG1 galaxy is speculative and hence my query on it. As for the Vanir, no intention of power projection is not the same as no ability. And regardless they still are projecting power over the entire star system they control. Which was more than what the SGC was capable of in 1997 and likely comparable to any potential Goa'uld remnants. So yeah, as I said, they are a small power.

@dominic.h.3363

Жыл бұрын

@@occultatumquaestio5226 No and no. The Ori ships were flown via mind control. Without being in possession of their now former powers as Priors, these people have absolutely no way of using that technology. If you don't see the level of restriction the Ori put on their technology and call it speculative, you haven't watched the show carefully enough.

@nobleman9393

Жыл бұрын

@@dominic.h.3363 I don't remember the Priors losing their powers.

Stargate Galactic Powers love to go for a walk. A very enthusiastic walk.

@Grivehn

Жыл бұрын

And SGC loves to take them for a walk and shoot them in a dark alley.

Got some symbols wrong here. For the Asurans you're using the Tau'ri symbol, I.E. the symbol for Earth (which would probably have been better to use for earth since SGC remains a US thing throughout, falling under Homeworld Command following other nations being let in on the secret) For the Free Jaffa Nation you're using Apophis' symbol. It may be the forehead brand both Teal'c and Bra'tac bear, but it's still a Goa'uld symbol. And for the Lucian alliance you're using Montu's symbol, a minor Goa'uld serving Ba'al. It's the forehead brand on Gerak, the Free Jaffa leader that got turned by the Ori.

@chrisbuckley7345

Жыл бұрын

Do any of those orgs have a known symbology? If not, the creator came up with something more-or-less reasonable for each.

@Stukov961

Жыл бұрын

@@chrisbuckley7345 Lucian Alliance has a flag. The other two have no known symbols. My suggestion would be to use Montu's symbol for Free Jaffa, as the only time we see the symbol in the show it's on the forehead of a Free Jaffa leader. For the Asurans, I'd probably just use a letter of the Lantean writing as seen for example on the steps in the Atlantis gate room.

Stargate is one of my all time favorite franchises I feel like it is not appreciated enough in our time I would love to see you make more content about it I would especially enjoy a video dedicated to the goauld and their empire

I love the "we have some... shuttles" clip so much

Can I just say my favorite thing about Stargate is how it developed the balls to completely upset the status quo? For the first few seasons it felt like they were going to keep hammering the reset button and repeating "Humanity isn't ready!" to make sure they kept things sticking to the premise. But then the show went for it and humanity ends up running literal fleets of warships. My only disappointment is they never actually revealed to humanity what was going on; I think by the end of the series, they really should have.

@Grivehn

Жыл бұрын

There was a movie planned (amongst like 3 others) where they would finally reveal things, and that'd have been basically the end of SG1. SGU would have likely included any new status quo, if it kept going. I agree, a shame people never found out. Although by 2010, most notable powers on Earth knew about it. Id imagine any government people who would sooner or later go civilian, coupled with all the 'conspiracy theorists' of that Earth, even notable ones like the billionare guy who Sam dealt with, would sooner or later leak enough critical info for the governments to have to step up and tell the truth.

@MDP1702

Жыл бұрын

agreed. I can only imagine the impact it would have. I envisioned something like humanity starting to expand a lot more. The stargate on earth being only used as a logistical gate linking to other earth controlled worlds with the goal of always pushing as much resources/people through back and forth, like at an important train terminal (and I'd even use train like vehicles to do so). The first worlds (ie the ones Earth would directly link up with) would be mostly logistical hubs that then would spread the resources/people to/from/between colonies (transit ports essentially) and SGC would also be moved offworld. Hell, I can't understand SGC wasn't moved offworld already. Afterall any potential breach would then be limited to another planet and people with hostile intentions wouldn't easily found out Earth gate adress. Even early diplomatic meetings should never take place on earth. Ofcourse it limits potential storylines, but the intrusions and dangerous tech going haywire was already done enough anyway.

@Grivehn

Жыл бұрын

@@MDP1702 Fair point on off-world bases. In later seasons, they did take some dangerous stuff to those first, though. Like Replicarter or the Ori bugs.

@MDP1702

Жыл бұрын

@@Grivehn Yeah, it just wasn't taken far enough. These bases usually were pretty limited.

@AlBoulley

27 күн бұрын

The Fifth Race - IMHO a top 5 episode!!

I definitely feel like this could have been a multipart video. There's at least a dozen strong contenders (that aren't just one-planet hermits like the guys we got naquadah reactors from) not included, like the Hebridians. Dividing it into a 1997 video and 2010 video, each with another few civilizations, seems warranted.

@robkemp598

Жыл бұрын

The Hebridians could easily have overtaken the Tau'ri and free jaffa. Sure their technology isn't Asgard level but they are stated to have other colonys outside of their homeworld. They could have used the stargate addresses earth gave them to set up mines, new colonys, orbital shipyards etc and outshined everyone without the gou'ald around. But hey Stargate exists to make the US air force look good not make sense 🤣🤣🤣

This has to be one of the few ranking videos, probably less than three, out of all the ones I ever watched, with which I fully agree on every single account. And the way you presented 2010 leaves some interesting things to consider. Like, can you really talk about a power vacuum when there is nobody left capable to fill it? The whole dynamics changed completely, not just the relative rankings.

@evilemuempire9550

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, you pretty much just have earth, the free Jaffa, probably some minor system lords, and the cartels left, none of which really seem capable or willing to exert much force around the galaxy

Would have loved to see a few more factions, such as the Tokra, Tolan, Aschen, Replicators, etc. I also really love this type of videos and would like to see more of them, especially for some of the Universes i care about, such as Babylon 5, Battletech and Mass Effect (all of those should obviously also use the same format as this video, ranking the powers at different points in time).

@pepps779

Жыл бұрын

Bit surprised the Tok'ra, Aschen, and Replicators did not make the list, when the Asurans, Genii, and Lucian Alliance were included.

@dominic.h.3363

Жыл бұрын

@@pepps779 Replicators were wiped out. Also they are technological vermin, a force of nature, locusts, not a power. Aschen still can't dial the gate beyond their local group and are in a heap of trouble depending on where they dialed the black hole from. Tok'ra have absolutely no identity that ever went beyond "we hate the Goa'uld", so they have absolutely no plan whatsoever what to do with themselves on a galactic scale with them gone. They all are symbionts descended from a single now dead queen, so they are just as much a dying species as the Asgard, because the rest of the Goa'uld are still homicidal maniacs. They literally made this a point, the fact that they can't replenish their ranks, in an episode. They were all missing from this list for very good reasons.

@spencersmith5949

Жыл бұрын

Weren't the Tolan the ones with the ion cannons that got destroyed by the Goa'uld?

@pepps779

Жыл бұрын

@@spencersmith5949 Yep

@UGNAvalon

Жыл бұрын

Weren’t the Replicators also fully destroyed by 2010? (Unless you mean including them in 1997.)

Ah, the Furlings. The faction that never showed up.

@allseeinghamster6001

Жыл бұрын

Well if you don't count the clip show episode....

@Jawmax

Жыл бұрын

@@allseeinghamster6001 Those Ewok ripoffs? Never!

@josephclark1139

18 күн бұрын

Do you remember that ship that disabled the prometheus in a nebula and Sam had to get the ship working again by herself? There's been hints apparently that that alien ship was the furlings

Appease the Wraith with Daniel Jackson, an inexhaustible food source.

@briankuczynski6884

Жыл бұрын

Set up qn Omelas situation with the Wraith, some convicts, and a sarcophagus.

I liked the genii or however you spell it lol. They were one of the few enemies that were smart, could innovate and actually felt dangerous.

@Quincy_Morris

Жыл бұрын

They were easily the least evil of the bad guys fought by the SGC.

@paulbeaney4901

Жыл бұрын

@@Quincy_Morris no i don't mean as in evil, i mean in competence. They new what they were doing, they were more professional.

@dominic.h.3363

Жыл бұрын

@@paulbeaney4901 Oh they were evil alright, they were just relatively harmless. Now imagine if they would be capable of speedrunning technological advancement like humans did (calling them by their Goa'uld name feels weird so no Tau'ri from me). That would be an interesting conflict to see.

@waynejuckts3008

Жыл бұрын

@@dominic.h.3363Goal'ud is even wi h those snakes removed, a common language on countless World in the milky way, but as the Genii are from. Pegasus, where they never had goal'ud influence.... Our own Name for us, humans like introduced by us is the right one to go..... In this context.

@waynejuckts3008

Жыл бұрын

Interesting picks for the rwces Symbols. If I remember right, as where was a triade at the question, who owns right to the body, Skaara the host, or klorell or how ever the snake dpells its Name...... The SG Team got some quarters on that Planet and a flag symbolize their factions, while that goal'ud got another and the Nox teptesentative also gots a flag behind him. On the ta'uri flag Was the origin point Symbol of their gate Adress the one you gave the adurans here. Well you gave us the sgc Symbol, a correct choice but oder that Symbol you gave away to the asurance, I ever understood Ta'uri as its meaning.

Awesome. Love Stargate content.

I think you should have included the Milky Way / non-Asuran replicators, as they directly affected the fall of the Asgard, as well as the Goa'uld indirectly. Otherwise, I found your analysis to be impressive and highly accurate! I do think calling the Goa'uld in 1997 a hyperpower might be a bit generous, but definitely within the realm of possibility. I can't help but thinking that their control of the galaxy was nearly a joke compared to that of the Wraith and the assumed control the Ori had over their respective galaxies though.

@GoranXII

Жыл бұрын

The Milky Way Replicators barely exist in either time. the Ida Galaxy Replicators OTOH...

@jackmorris7755

Жыл бұрын

In 1997, it was a stretch. In 1994, with Ra being Supreme System Lord, it wasn't. Ra kept cohesion through superior strength and the combined fear of the minor lords. With his death above Abydos, the Go'a'uld System Lords became far more fractured, and political infighting with occasional skirmishes between some few system lords became full blown conflicts.

I thought the Asurans were an interesting race. They were basically like the Replicators from the Milky Way only they took on human forms, with each body having their own personality, motivations and values like a fully fledged human being. And unlike the SG1 Replicators, they also used human technology, which in their case was the advanced technology of their creators, the Ancients. I really wish the show hadn't killed them off so quickly and almost effortlessly as they made for some very interesting antagonists. Also I feel bad for them because not all of them were murderous machines but sentient individuals who were fighting a war for their side (a war that the Atlantis Expedition forced upon them when they were just living in peace). I feel like the heroes of the show committed genocide when they wiped them all out.

@TheArklyte

Жыл бұрын

I'll upvote even if I find you assessment of Asurans wildly inaccurate. They're nothing like Replicators. Just as being biological doesn't make Wraith and Asgard the same either. Asurans are society of synths, whose culture and tech is that of Ancients. They're basically Ancients uploaded into nanomachine bodies(and robbed of psionics). Meanwhile Replicators is a devouring swarm of assimilators, Von Neumann machine gone wrong. Idk if you're familiar with Stellaris, but they're de facto two different outcomes of opening L-cluster. Gatebuilders vs Grey Tempest.

@GoranXII

Жыл бұрын

@@TheArklyte The Asurans _are_ humanoid replicators, but that's as far as the similarity goes.

@AeneasGemini

Жыл бұрын

Is it still genocide when it's unavoidably us or them? The problem with the Asurans was that individuality was technologically supressed when it went against the will of the collective. The only Asurans who didn't pose a threat to humanity were the ones with Elizabeth that wanted to ascend, and even they had to hide their wishes. I don't know whether you'd call it genocide or not, but there's no arguing the fact that peaceful resolution was absolutely impossible. If it was evil then it was a necessary evil

@TheArklyte

Жыл бұрын

@@AeneasGemini ah yes, necessary evil. The lie upon which all authoritarian regimes rest:D

@barbiquearea

Жыл бұрын

@@AeneasGemini Genocide is defined as the deliberate annihilation of a targeted race of people. Now the Asurans weren't technically people as they were advanced AI, but they were sentient nevertheless and had thoughts, feelings, dreams and desires just like us. Also like us they had their own culture and sense of community and felt protective to their own people. Sure I suppose the fact that they were massacring the human population in the Pegasus Galaxy did force the Atlantis team's hand. That being said back on Earth they were developing a weapon in Area 51 that could wipe out all Replicators on the planet. Which means they were planning to wipe them all out even before Mackay flipped the kill switch on them.

You know what, I hope Babylon 5 will have a video like this down the line.

The Tok'ra on the Milky Way side and the Travellers on the Pegasus side are the only powers I'd consider significant oversights (unless you wanted to break down the Goa'uld further to account for their own internal divisions. There's also the relatively new alliance of worlds in the Pegasus galaxy that was forming in Season 5, though they would probably fall under the Atlantis Expedition or Genii sphere of influence depending on whether Atlantis returned after the cliffhanger we got left on.

@the11382

Жыл бұрын

Tok'Ra were a great power that declined to middle or small status. Travelers are a middle power at best, they lack the resources and have become scavengers.

@Starsaber222

Жыл бұрын

@@the11382 Agreed on the Tok'ra. Travellers do have a higher technology level than most of the native factions in Pegasus (Ronan's gun was their technology for example), so that could count for something.

@the11382

Жыл бұрын

@@Starsaber222 They don't have the manufacturing capabilities.

@MDP1702

Жыл бұрын

I wouldn't really consider the Tok'ra, they are too small. They essentially are just a small group of infiltrators that have a different opposed ideology to the goa'uld. Even at the height of their power they are living in hiding and likely only number a few thousand from what I remember.

Just for some added flavor I would like to have seen these minor factions as well: Aschen, Tok'ra, Vanir, and the Tollans. Now let's do this for Babylon 5 Please.

@bobbun9630

Жыл бұрын

The Hebridans would be good to add to that list, seeing as they actually have an interplanetary society with more advanced technology than Earth at the time the cultures met. They're an interesting contrast to the Aschen in a way... The scope of their "empires" seem comparable, but the Hebridans obviously have interstellar ships while the Aschen are dependent on the gate network, despite the Aschen appearing to be more technologically advanced over all. Of course, the true masters of the universe are the Untouched, regardless of what the Tollan think of them.

@Vilfy

Жыл бұрын

Please remind me, who were the Vanir?

@chrisk3127

Жыл бұрын

@@Vilfy the rouge Asgard from Pegasus

@0011peace

Жыл бұрын

That has already been done and is on you tube

Earth/SGC had the best defense of all... Plot Armor.

I'd love to see a Galactic Power Ranking video done on the races of the Mass Effect Milky Way galaxy, including all known Citadel and non-Citadel races (such as the Batarians, Krogan, Geth, and Leviathans), but excluding the Andromeda initiative and the races of that galaxy. Also, it would be appreciated if the rankings of the various races were given as both pre- and post- Reaper invasion standings.

@crimsonsamuraiftw

Жыл бұрын

Hyperpower - The Reapers Superpower - Collectors/Protheans - The Citadel Alliance (ME3) Great Power - The Leviathan - The Geth - The Rachni (at their height) - Cerberus - Commander Shepard and Normandy/EDI Regional Power - The Asari (maybe verging on great power) - The Turians - The Systems Alliance - The Krogan - The Quarians Middle Power - The Salarians - The Batarians (before ME3) - The Volus + alliance species - The Hanar + alliance species - Aria + Omega Small/Minor Power - The Vorcha - The Elchor - Blue Suns - Eclipse - The Blood Pack Thats all pre-, as post- you can't really count since its a giant wasteland.

Ironic isn't it? The Goa'ulds most glaring weakness arose because they feared another uprising like on Earth, just for them to find their demise by the hand of the Tauri themselves. Also I'm surprised you didn't include more minor powers like the Tollans or the Aschens.

@hulmhochberg8129

Жыл бұрын

Aschen were super scary, bro. Maybe the most underrated villains of stargate

@Utubesuperstar

Жыл бұрын

@@hulmhochberg8129 an enemy with endless patience is the most lethal of all

@nuclearsimian3281

Жыл бұрын

The Tollan were completely annihilated by a single Goa'uld. They would only have qualified as a minor power. Likewise, the Aschen would have only qualified as a regional power, and a very weak one at that since they had never figured out the intricacies of the Stargate network and their advancement seemed rather stagnant.

@barbiquearea

Жыл бұрын

Hence why Ra banned reading and writing. He didn't want his Tau'ri to advance in any capacity so they would be kept stagnant and complacent.

@boobah5643

Жыл бұрын

@@nuclearsimian3281 The Tolan were annihilated by a combination of their arrogance and a kinda-sorta ascended Goa'uld. Not that I disagree with your ranking of them; you can't be a power if you don't project it, and the Tolan were so traumatized by that one time they gave cave men nukes they weren't willing to project any of their power.

I literally just started rewatching SG1. The timing of this vid is perfect.

Stargate... that's a franchise that needs more attention!!!!

I am so happy you’ve made a video on this beloved series

I'm in agreement with your post 2010 rankings except I'd list SGC as a Great Power rather than a Superpower. Our potential to expand is there to leapfrog in a comparitive eyeblink to hyperpower status, but between a disunified throneworld and colonial projection being fairly limited alongside a small current force? SGC only has limited capability to project themselves amongst the other noteables. Still. toppling outright two antagonist powers, with the third major power bequeathing SGC as their inheritor given SGC's basically nonexistant status as a power a decade prior? That is nothing short of jawdropping. Put into perspective: It'd be like King Kamehameha I's unification of Hawaii lead to a chain of alliances and comparitive small scale actions leading to the collapse of the great interconnected web of Europe and russia, china fragmenting. Africa unifying but also being rife with internal divisions, america evaporating and at best turning isolationist for the next couple centuries, all leaving Hawai'i being ascendant on the world stage as inheretors as they produce state of the art ww1 grade ships and weapons at the close of the 18th century.

@brainblessed5814

Жыл бұрын

All five of them.

@VTMMan

2 ай бұрын

Sounds like a wild game of Civilisation 5

I'm telling you, Furlings are still out there somewhere...

@Timjer92

Жыл бұрын

One of the (if not the) biggest mysteries and unresolved plot points in all of Stargate...

Happy to see some Stargate content. I think I would have had the list mostly the same with a few minor adjustments up or down one slot. Overall very good video

This entry was very intriguing! Thank you Templin Institute for being one of the few creative entities which provide us with such high quality SG content ❣️❣️❣️

Always love seeing SG content! I wonder if the new series that's been rumored will have us going back to Pegasus to get answers on the Wraith and Geni.

@lostShadowLord

Жыл бұрын

If I remember the novel correctly, The Genii get a drone ship, and start building some of the traveller's ships designs. I believe at one point they have some of the older Tau'ri design. The BC-02 and the not Asgrad upgraded BC-03. Granted the Tau'ri have dozens of ships in Peagus and the Milky-way at this point. The wraith are stuck in a major civil war, and the Human federation is taking back planets. In short the Genii are on the raise and the wraith are killing each other, get curb stomp by the federation, or living under Federation control/allied to the Federation because Tau'ri.

The technical detail HUD looks so great over SG-1’s chunkier, low detail graphics... it really balances it out!

stumbling across this is a highlight of my day.

dude you just favorite series was not expecting this

Personal Suggestions for Future Ranking Videos. 1) Battletech 2) KaiserReich 3) Fallout 4) A Song of Ice & Fire 5) Mass Effect 6) Vampire: The Masquerade 7) Babylon 5 8) Dragon Age 9) League of Legends 10) Elder Scrolls

@weldonwin

Жыл бұрын

Which Inner Sphere house is the best and why it's House Steiner

@nekostyan1975

Жыл бұрын

6) TNO: Last days of europe

@RabbitShirak

Жыл бұрын

Farscape. That is all

@sgtboom7

Жыл бұрын

Would certainly like to see a Mass Effect one and a KaiserReich version of this.

@0011peace

Жыл бұрын

B5 has been done already its on you tube

Interesting missing power that was featured so briefly that I cannot even recall their name: The massive galaxy spanning corporate superpower. The one that hosted the interstellar race between dozens of species. They seemed like they might be the single most functional faction in the galaxy, and sadly, we never really heard more about them once the Ori showed up.

@Dr_Mafia

Жыл бұрын

Marking this so whoever responds will let me know as well

@Big_Red1

Жыл бұрын

Serrakins? I think that was the species.

@the11382

Жыл бұрын

Pretty sure they were destroyed by the Ori.

literally so happy we get stargate content

Love this videos about ranking, hope to see morein the future

I would love if you added any of the following. The Tok’ra, Anubis, Aschen, Tollan, Nox, Hebridian, and Milky Way replicators.

@GoranXII

Жыл бұрын

Minor Power/Minor Power, Minor Power/dead, Moderate Power/unknown (possibly dead), Moderate Power/dead, unknown/unknown, Moderate Power/Moderate Power, Minor Power/dead. Honestly, the number of knlwn powers that had any sort of organisation in both years is pretty low, Earth, the Genii, the Wraith, the Tok'ra, and the Hebridians.

@septagram9491

Жыл бұрын

Not much information on them, but the Furlings and the aliens in SGU could also be added.

@Grivehn

Жыл бұрын

@@septagram9491 Nothing on furlings either. They could have brought them back in a big way in a new show if they wanted to, though. We dont know much of the blue aliens either of SGU. They seem to be space nomads (like Travelers), somewhat akin to Asgards who just follow Destiny with a fleet. A technocracy, it seemed like. But we just never found out if they have a home planet anywhere. The SGU drones were a big threat though, they seemed like a hyperpower of their respective galaxy, with capabilities to follow Destiny, too.

@JoeIPA

Жыл бұрын

@@GoranXII Anubis is not dead. Just locked in an eternal battle with a fellow ascended being. My theory was that Anubis was trying to gather as many worshipers as possible. As proven by the Ori worship increases your power as an ascended being. If Anubis ever gets worshipers again then Anubis could break free. I would argue Anubis was not a minor power. Super Soldiers, Shields and weapons capable of destroying an Asgard ship, almost took over the System Lords and his super weapon on his mother ship. I fully admit I’m an Anubis Simp hahaha.

@GoranXII

Жыл бұрын

@@JoeIPA Okay, not _dead_ dead, but never coming back. Also, we don't know the state of Anubis in 1997, but considering he's not mentioned for several seasons, it's a fair bet to assume he's just a minor power, handily contained by the System Lords.

I miss Stargate. Just imagine how disruptive it will be when everyone learns just how advanced the human race is. But I suppose every war we never imagine what weapons are hidden away til they are brought out for use

This a really good video with lots of on-point examples....perfect.

I pretty much agree with every ranking. Thanks for the vid

4:52 only christopher judge could cause a stinger to transform into an at4 no one else is so powerful

Excellent analysis on the galactic powers of Stargate. Have you considered doing rankings on the Gundam multiverse?

Woohoo! Keep the Stargate content coming.

You did well thinking out the different groups and obviously did your research. Nice job!

Well done and now I have to go watch the hole multiple series again soooo..thank you?

Can't wait to see the video when the Templin Institute tries to do this Galactic Powers Ranking series with the Star Wars universe. I hope they just make each era its own video with that verse or else we'll be there for ten hours.

@Grivehn

Жыл бұрын

Just make it Legends-based, please, for god sake. Id be down for that. A few largely stagnant powers, like Chiss Ascendancy, Hutts, or the Republic, but the constantly re-emerging Sith Empires make it intriguing. Post Return of the Jedi its also a pretty massive clusterfudge. So many change in just a few decades, more than in the past 5k combined basically. With the Hapan, Vong, Yevetha, Ssi-ruuvi, Empire of the Hand or Imperial Warlords emerging in a fractured galaxy for brief or longer times. Legacy times might also be neat to close it out.

Yes. Finally. Thank you so much guys

Really cool video~ Time to rewatch stargate! 😁

Definitely should have included some other civilizations like Tok'ra or Tollan and perhaps others, even if they would rank low, they still had an influence in the galaxy. One thing I disagree with thought is that Asgard and Wraith are technologically stagnant. We do see multiple examples of them progressing and coming up with new technology. Asgard for example coming up with new ships like O'neill and Daniel Jackson during the war with the replicators or the beam weapons when fighting the Ori. Sure their civilization was in decline due to their physical defects and constant wars that didnt help their population size, but when it comes to technology they kept advancing. With wraith we see the advancement pretty much just with Todd, but that doesnt mean there are no other similar individuals, its not like on earth everybody is a nuclear engineer and we still don't know much about how their society actually works. We also do see them stealing technology from the Ancients or just adapting on their own such us with the cloning facility during their war with the ancients, they just take their sweet time, since after the ancients were gone, they were unchallanged and were taking the long naps in between times of activity. But they are well aware of their weaknesses such as hyperspeed limitations and lack of energy to power up all their technology, but I can see them not really investing much into creating their own solutions since they had plenty of time and they knew about ZPMs and other ancient technology and were activelly collecting that, simply taking the path of least resistance. Their progress doesnt match that of Earth, but than again Earth has done very little progress on its own, they stole or were given technology from Goa'uld, Tok'ra, Asgard etc, but that still counts as progress, they just simply had more room to progress, while Asgard or Wraith were way ahead of them and meaningful advances weren't just handouts or such break throughs.

@aximili113

Жыл бұрын

One of the more interesting point for me about thier culture and technology is the comment todd made in one episode when he said everyone who grew thier ships and took care of them made a faction of thier own. As well as the hierarchy whit thier queens and how the queens are essential for drone production they were not willing to risk thier ships and crew.

I love Stargate. All the series. I'll always re watch them. You gotta do Babylon 5 one day👍

Stargate is great, it’s awesome you guys made this.

I didn't expect this in my recommended. Quite welcome

I was kinda surprised to see a few notable groups left out of this, but I can see why, as they barely if ever stepped onto the galactic stage despite having the capability. The Ashen certainly come to mind. I'm also curious about how the SGU compares to this, they had some interesting (albeit overly derivative) stuff.

@808INFantry11X

Жыл бұрын

Aschen, traveller's, Hebridan, Langara

@jankostrhun8725

Жыл бұрын

We know basically nothing about Aschen. And given their reliance and yet limited understanding of stargate tech, they would be pretty low on the list.

@eXpriest

Жыл бұрын

@@jankostrhun8725 That and their homeworld got ate by a blackhole.

@jankostrhun8725

Жыл бұрын

@@eXpriest I don't recall that happening.

@eXpriest

Жыл бұрын

@@jankostrhun8725 The gate addresses they brought as part of their treaty negotiations, the first one was a black hole, pretty sure it's mentioned in subsequent supplementary material too.

I think the Templin Institute was correct for not putting the Furlings on this listing. I believe there are a dead race. It's disappointing not to see the Tok'ra but I understand why with very little information about them.

Man, Stargate was so cool. Good video!

More Stargate! More!!! I don't agree with all ranking but I understand your reasoning. Great video!

Imagine being a galactic powers and most people on your homeworld don't even know about it.

@UGNAvalon

Жыл бұрын

“Hey guys, guess what. Aliens exist. Also, we conquered most of them within a single generation.”

@TheIslandDivision

3 ай бұрын

Google "Solar Warden". One of the more interesting conspiracy theories out there.

What I'm sitting here thinking is, why weren't the Replicators included? They were beating or at least stalemating the Asgard; they were clearly a powerful force, even if they weren't a 'nation' in the traditional sense.

@mitchell3593

Жыл бұрын

Because until the sgc did time fuckery and evolved the replicators by several thousand or million years, the replicators weren't sentient in any way.

Good segment. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾💯

Very unique and compelling video 🎉

I think the Asgard are severely underrated. I don't think any of the other races could have sustained an all out war with the replicators for as long as they have. We saw the Asurans completely steamrolling the Wraith the second they started trying and they were no where near as wide spread or dangerous as the version of the replicators the Asgard were facing.

@darkwolf4434

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely. The Asgard would probably defeat the Goa'Uld pretty easily if they were to succesfully defeat the Replicators. The tactics they used against the replicators were on another level. Like creating a black hole to destroy them, imagine those kinds of tactics against the Goa'Uld. When they did defeat the Replicators they could easily create weapons that could easily destroy even ori ships. But yeah, we can't really put the Asgard as a superpower since they put the weight of protecting galaxies from the replicators on their shoulders and therefore couldn't focus on lesser threats and keeping them under control.

Thank you so much for this video, Stargate is often overlooked, but that doesn't apply to this channel. ☺ As for the topic, I more or less agree with your view, I just think the Wraith didn't go through such a drastic downfall, in my opinion they still retained a lot of power in their galaxy even after all the peripeties like the SGC, the civil war, the Asurans and Michael which harms them even after his death, so I would classify them as a superpower in 2010. And a small note, it would be better to use different markings for some states, for Asurans some letter of the Ancient alphabet, for Asgard the symbol seen in hall of the Great Four Races on Heliopolis in the first season episode "The Torment of Tantalus" and for LA maybe the triangle they have on their uniforms where they have rank markings.

Woah love the star gate content!

The shuttle conversation is just gold!

Wish we knew more of the ori galaxy now.

@Grivehn

Жыл бұрын

The Ark of Truth movie was supposed to be an 11th season where they spend most of the time in their galaxy. I guess thats just a story we never got to see. Kinda doubt they'd have made up any enemies of Ori in their own galaxy (since Ori had the knowledge and capabilities to jihad them), but we'll just never know.

@bryanmcclure2220

Жыл бұрын

@@Grivehn I really like the oir as a faction If they ever do a new series I hope they come back somehow.

@Grivehn

Жыл бұрын

@@bryanmcclure2220 Well, the Ori as a faction were seemingly killed entirely by Merlin's weapon. Adria seemed to be neutralized by Morgan le Fey, too. Nothing is impossible though, especially since we dont really know many rules of how the upper spheres of existence works. Somi Ori could have survived, and just got weakened. Maybe some could 'last minute' switch into a human body, too, to survive. Id think that could be cool. The Ori appaering as actual people with godlike powers, even more powerful than the Priors. Setting out to re-convert their galaxy. Maybe under the guise of a new faith, even.

@bryanmcclure2220

Жыл бұрын

@@Grivehn I always like the idea that some of them managed to diascend at the last minute, Or Maybe some of their followers Could find a way to become ascended themselves as the new Ori.

I love how the SGC began as a pitiful lower power and rose up the ranks. Just like XCOM.

@boobah5643

Жыл бұрын

And there've been more than a few cross over fics; sometimes X-COM runs the SGC (which often comes off as "What if we replaced O'Neill with Maybourne?") and sometimes they're two independent secret organizations that discover each other by one stepping on the other's toes. The real trick is fitting the Ethereals into a galaxy full of system lords, Asgard, and everything else the SGC found.

How did YT not recommend this video to me until now? A Templin video abotu Stargate? The algorithm should know thats up my alley.

Amazing work. This made me yearn for more stargate so bad.

Not sure how canon it is but if you count the Genii in the 1997 list then you should also include the Satedans. The post-SGA books mentioned that they rivaled them and were the only Human faction in the galaxy during the current cycle that figured out powered flight.

You should do rankings for starcraft factions

Long have i waited

Thanks for the video.

Really good video! I would have added the Tok'Ra, Tolan, and Nox in there somewhere. I understand these would be hard to rate since two are secretive as all hell and the third is wiped out by 2010. E: AND THE ASCHEN! CANT FORGET THEM!

@Shinzon23

Жыл бұрын

To be fair the tollan kinda deserved to be wiped out for being Royal cunts to everyone who could have helped them, and then seeming really surprised when the gou'uld betrayed them, and didn't even have the decency to share their tech before being wiped out.

@charlestownsend9280

Жыл бұрын

The race who took over the earth and defeated the gau'old in the alternate future and the replicas would be two other larger powers.

@toeray5864

Жыл бұрын

@@charlestownsend9280 Duuuuuude the Aschen? I forgot about those guys! Great bad guys.

@charlestownsend9280

Жыл бұрын

@@toeray5864 that's their name, I forgot it, one of my favourite villains though, just by how patient and deceptive they were even though they could probably have just won by force. They had an entire empire without use of the stargate network and were advanced enough to make stars and were able to become the biggest power in the galaxy once they had access to the stargate network.

@PathsUnwritten

Жыл бұрын

Tollan were only a single-planet species and extinct by the middle of SG-1. Aschen presumably extinct from dialing a black hole. Nox seemed to be single-planet and Tokra were still around but severely diminished.

I think you'd need two or three categories above hyperpower to fit the furlings

Yes! I love Stargate!

This power breakdown of the various Stargate governments is very interesting.

I think you should have included the Nox.

@RabbitShirak

Жыл бұрын

”the very young do not always do as they are told".

I would love to see a look at threats with how dangerous and the type of danger they are.

Great video, despite omission of Tok'ra, Aschen, Tollan and other minor/regional powers. Would love to see Mass Effect next.

Great video! Probably gonna bingde SG soon... :D

I agree for the most part, however I feel the Tok'ra should have been added to the list.

Amusing that you mentioned the Firlings (sp?), since they were never touched on in any series, other than mentions.

@UGNAvalon

Жыл бұрын

They “appeared” in “200” ;D

I agree for the most part, I might have moved some one place but you even seemed on the fence for those.

Good video, needed those Furlings though.

Wondering what the next alternate universe will be analysed this way, needs to be one with Multipolar power structure

I REALLY THINK that Wraith vs. Ori was lost opportunity - one cull People other need them for Worship. In the meantime, Atlantis crew moving like rats in the walls....

@UGNAvalon

Жыл бұрын

I mean Ori >> Tauri >> Wraith. It’d be no contest, really. Atlantis would just be panicking as they desperately tried to prevent mass conversions, and the Wraith would be either in hiding or getting hunted down by roving motherships.

@spencervance8484

Жыл бұрын

@@UGNAvalon i beg to differ. Both wraith and ori fought the ancients on relatively even footing

THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!!

So glad to see Stargate content. I would have included Tok'ra, Replicators, and Tollan. I'd also include Jonas Quinn's planet since they introduced the SGC to Naquadria. Man, whatever happened with the Reetou. They really dropped the ball on that one. Oh! The Aschen. What ever happened to them, too? Also, many galactic powers still just called us the Tauri. Seeing humanitiy's slow but steady rise to galactic power is one of the best things about Stargate SG-1.

@Grivehn

Жыл бұрын

The Reetou were absolutely forgotten, I'll give you that. So were the aliens with the shapeshifting devices and fleshy suits. Oh, never mind the 'Fifth member' of SG-1 and his race. I think the series just couldnt really handle races based on inflitration more than a gimmick, especially when SGC were the main infiltrators of the show. The goa'uld spies, Ashrak I think they called, only had a few appaerances, too. Only the Trust was dealt with properly, and honestly not quite sure if they caught them all either. I think the Lucians took over what was left of it after Ba'al, seeing how they were infiltrating Earth and the Destiny in SGU. I think there was an Aschen book where it turns out, they did stop the black hole consuming their world, but they got beaten again. Not sure about its conclusion, whether they survived or not.