ZF is a damn good transmission.

@bobbyjfarms3681

4 ай бұрын

I agree. All the way back to their stick shifts in the older ford and Chevy diesels.

@JacobMoy-ij5om

3 ай бұрын

I think they are underestimate the T numbers to be safe . I bin waiting for this for a long time . I don't think they need a 10 speed

@melanehme3661

3 ай бұрын

Yes, it stands for "Zehr Fantastik" in German 😆

@johnnorvaisas

3 ай бұрын

The best

In Australia and South Africa, many people are swapping ZF 8HP70s into Toyota Land Cruisers and the results are very good especially with the Turbo Lamik controllers

Ram should of kept production of the g56 equipped trucks for the select few who like em

@bobbyjfarms3681

4 ай бұрын

Would you be interested in a manual 6spd vs auto (aisin) 6spd video?

@VHP7044

3 ай бұрын

Definitely would purchase manual transmission truck.

@bunsguns8222

3 ай бұрын

Heard they started not being able to keep clutches in them as the power kept bumping up.

@VHP7044

3 ай бұрын

Adding a capable clutch is not that hard. the aftermarket solved that issue years ago.@@bunsguns8222

@jowens4160

2 ай бұрын

@@bunsguns8222I have a 2017 Ram 2500 with a G56, stock the truck is detuned because it is at the limit of the stock clutch. Once the truck is tuned and deleted the stock dual mass clutch doesn’t last long. I have a twin disc Valair that holds the power fine. The main issue is that they just didn’t sell that well. From 2010-1018 manuals only made up about 3% of overall sells. It’s unfortunate but most buyers don’t want a stick shift anymore.

I used to hate the dial shifter in my Ram and My Jeep, but once I got used to it , its not bad. It actually opens up the cab and gives you more room. They have never given me any problems. It’s easy to turn. Crisp positive clicks.

I loved the Aisen transmission. Really stout and strong transmission

@abmtz8537

3 ай бұрын

Are they made in Japan by Toyota?

Sure wish they’d make several million extra Transmission’s to retrofit 68RFE’s ! Love 6.7 Cummins 😎🇺🇸

Zf builds awesome transmissions. Great video thank you.

My 2021 3500 ram with the 68rfe has hill stop . I heard on another transmission talk that the zf will skip first gear if loaded light. Awesome video. Denis from Santa Rosa CA. The 8 speed of could bring the tow capacity up higher .this transmission sounds like the automated 13,18, 10 speed transmissions in the over the road trucks. Kenworth, peterbuilt , freightliner trucks .I pull a 15000 lb with my 68rfe and I do need more gears.

@bobbyjfarms3681

3 ай бұрын

Hello Denis from Santa Rosa

One thing about zf that im not sure alot of people understand is zf builds alot of powershift transmissions for agricultural equipment and construction equipment and alot of that works flawlessly and takes alot of abuse and the shuttle operation of those takes alot of abuse and keeps going, so if clutches are made of same or similar material then hopefully this will be a bullet proof transmission with little to no problems. Zf knows power transmission and does it well!

I had a Ram 1500 with a dial shifter and before I got it, I wasn’t sure that I would like it. After a week I never gave it a second thought. Now I have a 2019 Power Wagon with a dial shifter and I love it in there too. Don’t worry you’ll never miss the column shifter.

@blakegriffis3462

3 ай бұрын

Same with my 2019 2500 6.4. That transmission really woke up the 6.4s capabilities.

@treeamigo8447

3 ай бұрын

I don't agree. I had a 2020 6.4 with the dial shifter and missed my column shifter. I just couldn't get used to dial.

@oldironguy

3 ай бұрын

You will get onto the dial and honestly never look back. It was one thing that bothered me buying an 8spd. Long over it now. The dial is not an issue.

My wife's '18 Ram 2500 4wd 6.7L had fluid issues. I changed the oil pan to a PPE deeper aluminum pan. With fresh Valvoline synthetic the shifting improved quite a bit. After a few months I drained the fluid again. So just having a pan that allows a quick fluid change is great. I had been budgeting to put in an Allison transmission kit. But the ZF is superior. My Jeep JLU has the ZF, and drives much better than the Mercedes 5-speed in the JKU.

In the Ram GT and the TRX, both had zf transmissions and had a center consol shifter, so they for sure dont need a dial shifter. But as a ram 1500 owner, i absolutely love the dial shifter. Perfect location, out of the way, and a great way to free up space. Im sure it will be a dial, but they do have the parts to make it either way. It's about time Ram puts a transmission in their Diesel HDs that is worth buying!!! Great video, btw!

@Sicktrickintuner

3 ай бұрын

Dial shifters are junk!

@jamespenner1412

3 ай бұрын

​best auto shifter location ever built, in my opinion.

@oldironguy

3 ай бұрын

​@Sicktrickintuner You have Zero idea of what your talking about. Love how the Ford guys all trash talked the dial, then the mustang got it! LMFAO

@Sicktrickintuner

3 ай бұрын

@@oldironguy try to be the mechanic and work on one, now try to put it in neutral and turn it off, not allowed and goes into automatic park as soon as the door is opened F’n junk! Manual shifters didn’t do that. Now you need to pull apart panels and grab cables and have neutral bypasses. Stupid

@oldironguy

3 ай бұрын

@Sicktrickintuner That was because some movie star opened the door on his jeep and drove into a driveway pillar crushing him to death.... You can't fix stupid so un fortunately, safe cards have to be put in place for idiots. Google it bud, true story......

Nice video. Being a stick shift dinosaur I’m still driving my 06 5.9. Clean and low miles but eventually I’ll have to get a modern truck with an auto, egr, scr and what not.

My Aisin has always sucked i hope we can retrofit the new ZF to 4th gens Love the ZF in my Hellcat

@theoldmanriverwalk9472

3 ай бұрын

You’re rich sir

@derekgoritz2053

3 ай бұрын

@@theoldmanriverwalk9472cheaper than buying a whole new truck

@justinbourgeois4685

3 ай бұрын

ZF is smooth as silk

Excellent headsup...I'm gonna do some Gunther research before I make my final purchase decision...

Great video sir, I'm an old slush-box Cummins guy from the late '90s/early '00s, it is astonishing how the trucks have improved since then. Can't wait for the '25 HD redesign, they are currently leaving so much on the table compared to Ford, hopefully this 8-spd is a homerun like it is in the 1/2 tons. The standard output Cummins needs a big bump in torque and power, hopefully 425 and 1000+ ft-lbs and HO pushing 1200 ft-lbs.

@harizon8862

3 ай бұрын

I’d say 420 and 1075 for Standard Output (current HO numbers) and probably 470 HP and 1300 for the HO

@truckguy6.7

3 ай бұрын

@@harizon8862 I'm hoping they are going to get away from multiple power plants and transmissions. Keep them all the same, help with dealer inventory, wait times, production will be faster and hopefully one set up down the assembly line will lower the cost of the truck.Keep it simple, sometimes I think Ram loves to confuse their customers.

@gwolf7716

3 ай бұрын

@@truckguy6.7 Then they can’t nickel and dime everyone for the probably unavailable higher grade trans.

The 8hp70/75 and 8hp90 are absolute beautiful transmissions to drive and own. You sometimes cannot feel the shifts they are that smooth,. Quick shifting is an understatement, they have lightning fast gear changes. The only thing i find is like you said for most driving in a pickup they could actually do away with first gear starts. Make it available obviously manually, but more so if tow haul is selected than first gear starts are part of tow haul. The 8hp70 which I currently own has a Lower second gear than my older 6spd had for 1st gear!! Ive been around the old 904s, 727s 46rh/re and 47/48s. These ZF 8speeds are a thing of beauty!

@bobbyjfarms3681

3 ай бұрын

Since making this video I've learned that supposedly 1st gear will indeed be locked out unless 2 conditions occur, tow haul is selected, or an abnormally high load on take off (think taking off empty, but on a steep incline)

Yada...yada...yada! Give us the same cab as the 1500 plus an 8 foot bed option with oversize Ram Boxes! Give us the new gas inline engine with 540 HP and 520 LBS. Ft. of Torque! Give us the Cummins with superior power and torque to any GM or Ford! Give us 4 corner extra heavy duty air suspensions like real big trucks!

After driving my 2004 dodge diesel auto and getting in my 2014 Audi 3 liter with 8 speed transmission, I am wishing my p/u truck shifted like my car. I’ve driven pac car Volvo and freight liners w/ auto shifting & don’t want to go back to manuals.this new transmission sounds great.

Honest,does his research! Been following for sometime.

If you are having issues with the Aisin transmission in your Ram it needs a free remap from your dealer. My 2017 four door, Ram HD one ton dually has the Aisin and when empty got over 20 mpg but always liked to shift up too early and was in sixth gear at any speed over 35. So I took it in for the dealer and found zero issues but recommended a transmission remap. This worked great with the transmission staying in the lower gears much longer however now my mpg empty is about 15.

Go to a KW or Pete dealer and drive one with the TX8. Quicker, crisper shifts, hopefully coupled with much less torque management, should yield a huge boost in performance, even without turning up the wick on the Cummins. Bring it!!

I was hoping this would be available for a 68RFE retrofit down the road, but it won't be quite so easy with the electronic shift replacing the column shifter.

It's about time, been thinking for a while Ram was behind on the transmission.

I an very happy with my '18 6 speed factory transmission.

My mom has a 2007 6.7 with original trans w/ 240,000 miles and towed 12,000 lbs to 14,000up and down east coast. Serviced every 30,000 miles. My buddy bought a 4500 (asin) 2021 and trans. Kicked the bucket at less than 28,000 miles.

@bobbyjfarms3681

3 ай бұрын

That's a rare bird to last that long. Aisin was a warranty issue

D to R and R to D. I experience this type of concept on a LeBlond lathe where a machinist could change rpm levels while the spindle was still spinning. The gear change would take place after zero rpm was sensed. The spindle drive motor had a set of fly weights working like a governor and the fly weights had brushes that would make contact on a rotor disc and when there was zero rpm’s the weights of the governor would allow the brushes to make contact with the rotor and wires attached to the brushes acted like a switch completing a control circuit that allowed the motor to change gears. Similar concept I think ZF will use but electronically.

I have a friend that works for zf and his program has been the torque converters for the 8 speed automatic that's going into the trucks

Back in the day I wouldn’t look at a Ram. But in 2019 I purchased my first Ram. Listened to a lot of people and seen some great great success. I chose the Ram for a few simple reason. Hemi and ZF trans. Both bullet proof really. Ya ya ya the occasional person had issues. But which brand doesn’t? But overall these two combined power plants is what makes it and dependable. That’s all I want… cheers

@bobbyjfarms3681

3 ай бұрын

Like I always say, if out of the big 3 (ford dodge gm) one brand really was THAT much better than the other two, the other two would be out of business. They all 3 have gains and drawbacks, success and failures.

The 68rfe is a swollen dodge caravan trans configured for a rwd truck.

@bobbyjfarms3681

3 ай бұрын

Exactly

@darrelwilcox8018

2 ай бұрын

Stop the crap.

@hondamojo1

2 ай бұрын

Worked for Dodge from '95-'11, that's exactly what the 68RFE is .

@darrelwilcox8018

2 ай бұрын

@hondamojo1 lol. I worked for a hauling company for years and disagree. What jokers we have on this site. Maybe you should stick to honda trucks

Great video. Lots of good info

I love the ZF in my 1500 shifts great compared to the Ford 10 speed that I’ve been in. Also, the dial shifter is fantastic. I hate consul shifters I find they get in the way.

It's a scaled up version the one of the most popular and well refined modern automatic transmissions. ZF seems like they are keen to bring the design to the medium duty market. I think it has potential to be an absolutely excellent choice.

Im into my 68 about 13k , its pretty good now but not perfect. My only experience with ZF was the HP90 in my Charger and it was so good. Hope this happens.

I have a 21’ 2500 with the 6.4 and ZF trans and I also have a 23’ 2500 with the 6.7 SO and 68RFE and I gotta say the ZF is so much smoother than the 68RFE,If my 23’ Cummins had the ZF it would be perfect to me,the shifter location I could care less,the only thing is I would not buy into the whole lifetime fluid thing with ZF because my 14’ 1500 5.7 with the ZF had to get rebuilt at 120k mi.

I have a ZF in my 2012 300. Pretty good, I think it was abused though. The fluid was never changed until I got it. 170K on it, now 200K miles.

I drove a 10 speed ford E-350 box truck with the 7.3 V8. Was constantly down shifting for no reason. I could see how maybe they’d work out if you’re pulling a shit ton of weight all the time but doesn’t make sense on a daily. I bought a new 23’ 2500 6.7 with the 68rfe a few months ago. Came from a 22 ram 1500. Best trucks on the market imo. The tranny seems to be pretty solid, but I think the rpm’s are high as shit when I’m doing 75-80 mph. Hopefully this new 8 speed will drop those rpm’s while you’re cruising down the highway. Again, these companies putting in 10 speeds in these trucks doesn’t make sense unless you’re trying to be a super trucker every day hauling really heavy loads.

@bobbyjfarms3681

4 ай бұрын

There will be no reduction in rpms. Infact, the powerline uses a .064 8th gear vs a 68rfe that has a .063 6th gear. Isn't the lowest gear set available for a 2500 3.73? If so you should be right in the ram sweet spot @75mph. Just above 2-2200rpm

@slidewide1999

4 ай бұрын

@@bobbyjfarms3681they could put the rear end ratio back to 3.42 like the 4th gens. The added lower gears and smaller steps in the ZF could maintain the towing capacity.

@HVTMuddvain

4 ай бұрын

@@bobbyjfarms3681thats what mine is 22 6.7 2500 SO and mine hard shift from 1st to 2nd but smooth the rest of the way take ofs not a chevy or ford speed obviously but i dislike 10 speeds as well i like the idea of the 8 but pretty happy for now for my use on my 68rfe gotta think about cost of replacement as well for simple daily drivers like me idk for sure but i would assume the 6-8 would be totally different in costs to rebuild/replace

Might have to wait a couple years before upgrading my 68rfe, maybe I can get a used 8 speed in the future instead.

if it runs anything like the 1500 zf you HD guys will be in heaven

Good review. 👍🏻

I hope the 8 speed works, Chevy and Ford feels way more powerful because of the 10 speed tranny.

I think the ZF is better than the Allison. The gears are more evenly spread. I’ve driven the 8spds and the Chevy and Ford 10spds. They seam to always be searching for gears. The 8spd seams to down shift better when towing. It also seams to run cooler and it shifts much smoother than the 10spds.

@jeraldhogan

3 ай бұрын

I question that searching when comes to the GM 10SPEED because you don't feel the shifts at all. A ZF in a car would be tuned totally different from one intended to do work in a heavy duty truck.

Great video

@bobbyjfarms3681

3 ай бұрын

Thank you very much

ZF will probably be the best to happen to Ram

I know it wss mentioned in an earlier video, but a stick shift would be wonderful

so if they put this 8speed in the 2500s the torque goes up to max 1000? also hp abit. also does the dial shifter come with it ? if so ill trade my 23 2500 68rfe for a new one or used , an if the cab is more spacious definitely signing up

GVWR and GCWR can be similar, but not necessarily the same. The 57k lb rating is probably for big box trucks. But your point is well taken, 1000 ft lbs at 57k lb GVWR leaves room for Ram to have higher torque in the pickup trucks.

@bobbyjfarms3681

4 ай бұрын

You are right, gvwr and gcvwr are not the same thing, but I think in the case of a transmission manufacturer putting a number on their product, I don't think it matters. 57k is 57k regardless if it's a truck/trailer or larger truck no trailer

Electronic transmission doesn’t mean it can’t have a column shifter. The shifter would just operate switches instead of cables. I hope they keep the column.

@bobbyjfarms3681

4 ай бұрын

Correct. I'm just assuming it's going dial

@pg8393

3 ай бұрын

Change doesn't have to be scary guys 😂.

They'll probably lock out 1st gear unless in TH mode, like my 23 GMC. Lifetime filter? Ye right until the warranty runs out. After that it's all on you

The ZF in my hemi 2500 shifts very fast and so smooth you can't feel the shifts most of the time.

I definitely think ram has needed to get rid of the 68rfe. But the aisin isn’t as bad. Aisin makes another transmission with 7 or 8 gears and that’s all the Cummins would need is 1 more gear. It has been a great trans over the years and was a powerhouse when it came to handling the performance of the Cummins HO. IMO I’d like to see the zf in the standard Cummins. And I’d like to see the aisin in the HO’s with either 7 or 8 gears.

@bobbyjfarms3681

4 ай бұрын

Well said

I have a 2022 5500 and have all the same complaints. I had a 2019 f-450 before this truck and I wish I still had that truck.

@truckguy6.7

3 ай бұрын

I was with a Ram store for 30 years. It was mentioned in the video and it is true. The 4500 and 5500 transmission programming is lacking compared to the Aisin in the 3500. They drive completely different.

@gravytrainoutdoors

3 ай бұрын

@@truckguy6.7 I had a 22 3500 HO and it shifted good. Other than being really clunky when shifting into gear or reverse and maybe more so than my 5500, I thought it had its shift parameters sorted out well.

6 spd manual or 9 spd manual 300k to 500k miles before rebuild. Get some.

@justinwam

3 ай бұрын

U R high sir

@Jon-O.

3 ай бұрын

@@justinwam on reality you don't have to believe what I'm saying but I just seen a original first gen 1987 Dodge Ram Cummins pass me by on the street don't see one dam Ford or Chevy that year that's a daily driver. In the rust belt salty ass roads

I hate dial shifters period

@bobbyjfarms3681

4 ай бұрын

My hopes are they retain the column shifter

ZF has been testing their powerline transmission on a Cummins 2500 since 2018. There’s a video of that exact powerline transmission being tested and driven on a Test Mule 2018 RAM 2500 Cummins (link below). It really wakes up these trucks in performance, will be better towing and has been tested and fine turning for 5+ years, a lot of win using this transmission. I’m glad they when with ZF they make excellent transmissions! kzread.info/dash/bejne/hXiqprV9pKW4eco.htmlsi=nvmFNNirBCmCYuY3

I know I’m old and stuck in the past but I sure do miss manual transmissions

@bobbyjfarms3681

3 ай бұрын

You are not old or stuck in the past. I miss manuals too, you'll like my next video!

@Jhollywood3698

3 ай бұрын

Well thanks I’ll be sure to watch your next video

@georgedoolittle9015

2 ай бұрын

A lot to be said for buying a Freightliner absolutely. What really kills these machines is DEF fluid imo with #irony a heavy displacement engine working at low RPMs is a far less bad "emitter" big time and of course a better engine if married with the right power train and suspension. Could start seeing some truly huge super duty because of the Dodge Powerwagon meaning much more "stout" robust build. Tesla Cybertruck is such a game changer if that works as basically is a literal Tank.

What about the new diesel?

Man the loss of the column shifter is gonna be hard to get used to

When can I order a 2025 Ram HD Truck?

I thought you were excited about a 7 or 8 sp. stick, now all you are talking about are automatics??

Might as well buy a class 8 truck and live the dream of towing 57k with ease. I think the amount of power currently is a reliability pipe dream. These trucks seem to be dying much faster than my 08 6.7. I am all for racing diesel on the track but this HP and TQ race will not be good for the consumer in the long run. Not to mention insuring a vehicle with this power is insane.

I'd love to have one of these, but I'd give it a year to work the bugs out of it. BUT... I will not own any vehicle with a dial shifter. No thanks. I'll keep my 2005 6sp manual. The column shifter doesn't have to go away. They can make it work just fine I'm sure.

A true automatic transmission like allison is always better not a skip shift . I drove a truck that would hunt you gears and stall .

Could they use a center console shifter? Because trx and gt halfton have zf with center console shifter. I can’t do the dial that’s just not user friendly.

@bobbyjfarms3681

4 ай бұрын

Traditionally, console shifters are also connected to a cable. I think almost certainly we will see some sort of dial

@scottapple2836

4 ай бұрын

@@bobbyjfarms3681 I know the hd with the zf only has a dial. I would just hope people would push for a console shifter if they can make that work. I don’t know anybody that wants that dial.

@bobbyjfarms3681

4 ай бұрын

@@scottapple2836 I'd vote to keep the column shifter if I had a choice

@speedshifter101

4 ай бұрын

If it's electronics I bet they could put a column if they wanted it would just be same concept as a dial, just sending signal between the two but I doubt they will.

@scottapple2836

4 ай бұрын

@@bobbyjfarms3681 anything is better than that dial

Only way to fix the 68 is REVMaX I’m at 900 hp and I have had a revmax 850 for 80k miles and no problems

If nobody can get into the newer ECMs, a great transmission isn't going to convince me to buy a new truck.

I hated the dial shifter and thought ah, I'll get used to it 3 months in I hated it even more.....so much so I sold the truck.... Having column shift since early 80s I am institutionalized 😂

Aisin might have its issues but longevity its proven to hit 500k odo and up

@bobbyjfarms3681

3 ай бұрын

I agree. I was a little rough on the ol aisin in my video but it has proven very tough and reliable. I'll admit, I'm 10% salty due to having 2 k1 snap ring failures

No thanks for a dial shifter and auto park. The 68 shifts fine and runs great, maybe someone towing a ton daily but for occasional towing and driving the 68 is fine,

Definitely don’t need 10 gears with these Cummins. And just like in the gm trucks they lock out 1st gear mostly so when you come to a stop you never go into 1st gear. The only time it will go into first is in tow haul mode and it is definitely needed as my 23 Chevy didn’t tow good at all with that 10 speed you talk about aisin shifting a lot. That 10 speed was always shifting.

@bobbyjfarms3681

4 ай бұрын

I agree. That's exactly why I think this 8spd will be good. Hopefully it looks out 1st too and skip shift function for the win

I think it’s funny that people buy Duramax because they think that 10 speed is Allison. It’s not an Allison. Allison endorses GM to use the name. The 10L1000 is made by GM. Not Allison. Nothing wrong with the 68RFE, I think people misconceive it for its predecessor. I’ve put plenty of miles behind the 68RFE. At least it doesn’t hunt gears, and parts are abundant, which makes repairs cheap, because let’s be real, every transmission will eventually need repair. Obviously, yes, ZF makes a hell of a transmission, but they ain’t cheap.

@jeraldhogan

3 ай бұрын

Allison tested and approved the transmission. I'm sure they didn't sit on the sideline and leave their reputation to chance.

The sm6.4 already have the ZF8 speed

@bobbyjfarms3681

3 ай бұрын

As I mentioned in the video, that is the 8hp75, not the bigger 8sp powerline medium duty trans that is about to hit in 25. Gas hemi will still have the smaller hp75

As someone who’s got way to much money in a 68. I can confirm that they are junk!!!

They should up the torque to 1300-1350 with the ZF. Ford is doing 1200 with 10 speed

@bobbyjfarms3681

4 ай бұрын

Eh, at some point there's got to be a ceiling on power out of pickup. Truth is they've got more power than we actually need already.

@tuffguy707

4 ай бұрын

Power is like money. You can never have to much of it.

@Math-zl8kq

4 ай бұрын

The ZF power line actually has a torque limit of 1000ft-lbs.

@bobbyjfarms3681

4 ай бұрын

@@Math-zl8kq did you watch all of the video?

@Math-zl8kq

4 ай бұрын

@@bobbyjfarms3681I didn’t but now I just did. Basically you are just speculating no real facts. But in the past Bentley has been able to modify the ZF8 900nm torque rating to accommodate a 1100nm application for the Mulsanne speed. I might be the case for this ram but this is only speculation. Maybe Ram will have to reduce their torque rating to accomodate the new ZF transmission.

That 8 speed is going to cost 15k to replace and "lifetime fluid" is such a lie don't ever think "lifetime fluid" is a real thing

@bobbyjfarms3681

3 ай бұрын

Lifetime filter.... not the fluid. That makes servicing easy. If it's a good trans, and taken care, should last a LOT of miles. Some guys are spending nearly that on trying to keep their 68 alive

@Sdukes001

2 ай бұрын

Now a days it’ll cost that much to replace a 68 or swap an Allison.

Good riddance to the column shifters. Have a '24 GMC and it covers part of the display.

SOMEONE MAKE A KIT TO PUT THIS TRANSMISSION IN MY 12 VALVE DUALLY PLEASE!!!!

@bobbyjfarms3681

3 ай бұрын

Haha that would be sweet

Really excited for this hopefully they add some power as well. I dont think any of these trucks need 10 speeds 8 is perfect i would be happy even with 7 even though im a 48rfe right now haha.

@bobbyjfarms3681

4 ай бұрын

Yeah I agree I don't need or want 10 gears

They are going have to detune the Cummings for that transmission. Stellantis is a disaster 😅

@bobbyjfarms3681

2 ай бұрын

What's a cummings?

Aisin is pronounced “I-Shin”. And I wish they’d offer manuals again

First thing they need to do is put Dodge and the crosshair grill back on those pickups! Then they need to upgrade the whole pickup. 15 years into this body style for the HD's is to long! I still drive a 2010 3500 because there is no reason to buy another one that looks just like the one I have! They need to option a manual trans for those who want one. More color options and 2 tone on all models with chrome front and rear bumpers need to be available again. If I have to pay 110K for a pickup it needs to look like a 100K pickup instead of a base model where everything is the same color. Then they need to bring the price down. 100K and more for a pickup is stupid!!!!!!!!

@bobbyjfarms3681

3 ай бұрын

The truth is, 2 tone paint isn't in style anymore, and hasn't been for a while. The sport look with everything match painted is what's in. I agree that they need to bring back the manual trans. I also hears ram actually lowered msrp a little

@skidoorulz4914

3 ай бұрын

@@bobbyjfarms3681 Ford still offers 2 tone and chrome. Painted bumpers suck for anything that runs rural roads. They are chipped and rusted after 6 months. The only reason Dodge is doing it is for production line efficiency! I know a ton of people who want chrome and 2 tone but can't get it Dodge thinks they know better. Give us the choice not that hard!. Gonna take a whole lot more than a different tranny to keep me in a Dodge, and I am about due for a new pickup.

@skidoorulz4914

3 ай бұрын

@@bobbyjfarms3681 Gonna take a whole lot more than a new tranny to keep me in a Dodge, and I am due. The only reason chrome and two tone is not in style anymore is they have taken that option away. For the first time since 1986 I am looking in the lots of other manufacturers.

They should stick with a column shifter. They can still be electronic. Those dial shifters are garbage.

I'll stick with my 6 speed manual with a gear vendors overdrive.

I don't think Chrysler could build 88RFT or other Ram's transmission. 🤔🤔🤔🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

The ZF will be a good upgrade over the Aisan, but it's still 2 gears short of the competition, so it's not all it should've been.....

@bobbyjfarms3681

4 ай бұрын

Politely disagree. Never actually short of gears with my 6 spd. 10 is just too much. What's next? 18spds?

@justinmartin8887

4 ай бұрын

@@bobbyjfarms3681totally agree with that. Most of the time the 8 and 10 speeds are skip shifting anyway

@okcmoparguy724

4 ай бұрын

Ask a Ford tech how reliable the 10r's have been in HD applications (teething issues). ZF builds rock solid transmissions, I think they'll get it right.

@bunsguns8222

3 ай бұрын

​@@bobbyjfarms3681Yep, 7 or 8 is perfect. 4.10 gears could use 1 more up top for fuel mileage for sure.

There is no such thing as a "lifetime fluid". They say that because it will usually make it past the warranty period. Change your fluid and filter every 50k if you want the transmission to last.

@bobbyjfarms3681

3 ай бұрын

I said lifetime filter, not fluid. ZF is claiming no need to change the filter, only fluid

@peterunderwood3447

3 ай бұрын

Ok. I misunderstood. We have a ZF 8 speed in our 2017 BMW X5 35 diesel. BMW says lifetime fluids. ZF says change the fluid and filter every 50k. More maintenance is probably better. I can't see a transmission filter lasting hundreds of thousands of miles like we put on our Cummins trucks. And if it does, how well it's it performing at that point? I understand not wanting to change filters at every fuel stop, but I want my equipment to last. So I'll change the fluids and filters on a maintenance schedule. I wonder if I could get that ZF Powerline behind the 5.9 in my 2006 Megacab?

If ram would just have Allison build them a trans that would be the best combo.

@justinmartin8887

4 ай бұрын

Allison is owned by General Motors. Doubt that’s gonna happen

@charlesc5983

4 ай бұрын

@@justinmartin8887 General Motors sold it to an investment company yrs ago.

@charlesc5983

4 ай бұрын

Following Allison's untimely death in 1928, General Motors acquired Allison Transmission in a partnership that would last almost eighty years. In 2007, a cash-starved GM sold Allison to Onex Corporation and The Carlyle Group for $5.6 billion, a move that preceded GM's bankruptcy reorganization in 2009.

You didn't speak about how this new transmission is effecting the exhaust brake. We know the more gears, the less effective the exhaust brake is.

@bobbyjfarms3681

3 ай бұрын

I have no idea, I haven't driven one yet

The aisin is the best transmission on the market

@bobbyjfarms3681

3 ай бұрын

I like the aisin too. One thing undeniable with it is the strength it's shown over the years. But, that's kind of where the fun ends. The overall design and function of the powerline appears to be a lot better. I see now likely 1st gear will be skipped unless in towhaul, which is perfect. 2nd is the perfect rario for takeoff gear in normal driving unloaded conditions. Wish the aisin did that, I'd prefer it be a 5spd (2-6) as 1st is too low when empty combined with the gap into 2nd

Aisin already has hill holder

@bobbyjfarms3681

3 ай бұрын

Fill me in on that one

@mr.ogpaint3086

3 ай бұрын

@@bobbyjfarms3681 according to the 2018 Ram HD Catalog they all have Hill Start Assist " When the vehicle is angled on an incline, this system keeps your Ram stationary for two seconds after the brakes have been released or until the accelerator is depressed." Appears it is built into the vehicle, not unique to the Aisin as I thought

No such thing as lifetime fluid, I’d do it at 30k, 50k max.

@bobbyjfarms3681

3 ай бұрын

I said specifically that zf is claiming a lifetime filter. Fluid still needs to be changed, but not near as often as an aisin

I'll stick with my Asian.

That new ZF trans has way to much going on it’s gonna be an electrical nightmare. Being able to shift from drive to reverse while moving is not a good on the drivetrain especially with a heavy load. Shifting from drive to neutral at a stop is very stupid, trans is gonna hit first gear hard under hard acceleration. Good thing they are putting it in a ram just another nightmare trans. I hope it works for them. I don’t understand why people even buy ram heavy duty pickups, the trans is garbage both of them and the Cummins isn’t reliable anymore. Most people keep there trucks 200k tops and trade them in so why does anyone care if it lasts 1 million miles maybe .1% of people will ever do that. 99.9% of people that buy these trucks trade them in before 200k. How many 2012 Cummins have you seen with 1 million miles? I’ve seen more duramaxs with a million. My Allison 10 spd is the smoothest trans I’ve ever drove. I can’t believe I’m saying this but for 99% of people buying hd trucks the ford is a way better option than ram. Yeah the engine is toast at 200k but who the hell cares lol. Also with all the emissions Cummins isn’t even lasting 200k. To each there own but GM and ford are much better trucks.

@bobbyjfarms3681

3 ай бұрын

L......O........L........ thanks for the free entertainment! I love story time

Well ya know when your tired of your dodge not doing dodge things you ram it into something and collect the insurance money.. get a quality truck that will last

@bobbyjfarms3681

3 ай бұрын

Sure thing slick

Nope, Allison or manual. ZF no such thing as lifetime fuid

@bobbyjfarms3681

3 ай бұрын

Never said lifetime fluid, I said, according to zf, lifetime filter

I love the 68rfe it keeps my friend and i busy at his tranny shop. I got to where i can pull a 4wd 68rfe out completely in 2 and half hrs

And Bobby, tell us why we should listen to you? You don't dress like you work for Stellantis.

@bobbyjfarms3681

Ай бұрын

Because when you know.... you know...

@55afishead

Ай бұрын

@@bobbyjfarms3681 If you think you "know" tell me what you know about the Cummins 6.7 liter gasoline engine.

@bobbyjfarms3681

Ай бұрын

@@55afishead nothing. I don't follow anything gasoline, not my scene.

@55afishead

Ай бұрын

@@bobbyjfarms3681 Thanks for replying. The project is called Octane. Keep an eye out for it.

Your whole talk on these trannies, the clutch surface area and gear hunting, and you said nothing know nothing about the Valvebody Poor design? No matter the surface area or TCM setup is all blocked by the Valvebody multiple design flaws. You better go do the research on the Valvebody bad design. It's like a bad heart in a man with a 400lb bench press and 150lb curl strength, no good of the fluid is leaking down pressure to the limbs.

@bobbyjfarms3681

3 ай бұрын

I'm sorry I didn't address every detail, and one that is important to you, but nobody wants to watch an 1hr long video either. It doesn't really matter anyway, it's about the new trans that's coming to replace everything, than so much about the stuff it's replacing. Thanks for watching

@AllAutos

3 ай бұрын

@bobbyjfarms3681 No worries here. You're certainly right about society's attention span and desire for complete information, just like it's not probable you'll want to read my entire comment here without being aggravated instead of inspired. But let's see... What you said is important too just incomplete, and the pursuit of excellence and complete identification of flaws and their fixes is what is good mechanics. Not just one point important to me or any one person, a whole pursuit of design and mechanics. It's really very well known of the Valvebody more than any other part of the trans, and yet so many just don't pay attention then don't get it fixed then go chasing out of order downline fixes rather than the head and then the rest. No other part of the 68 or the Aisin has more impact to making those trannies back as a HD unit should be than the Valvebody. With just it alone trucks go on heavy hauling as they should with no fixes of other things, it's literally the Achilles Heel. BTW no need to exaggerate it being "hour long video" for just mention of something as important as the achilles heel of a truck. Watchers actually would appreciate the info/warning. And Long Form Content is actually the new SM thing and will be for a long time, in case you didn't know that either. So don't be scared, push the "long" a little, it won't hurt your channel.

RAM....just offer a God dam manual 7 speed and 1 good scramblematic and be done with it!!!!!!!Offer it in a gas hemi as well...I miss big gas manuals....JUST DO IT

THIS IS WHY A CLUTCH PEDAL TRANSMISSION IS BEST...WHY ARE WE ARGURING ABOUT A JUNK AS FREAKIN AUTOMATIC????....I UNDERSTAND NOT EVERYONE CAN SHIFT OR PHYSCIALLY ABLE TO DO SO...AT LEAST OFFER THE MANUAL.....IT WILL SELL!!!