I was all in until they said it’s not a winter travel trailer and it’s not Four Seasons. They need to make one four season so I can go snowmobiling with it.

@tannerhartl5175

2 жыл бұрын

Pretty confident it would be fine

After watching ATC site I saw the new gooseneck My suggestion would be for you to do a full review of their 32 and 40 foot trailer. Even tow it with you truck. Plus with this trailer your unbiased review would help future buyers as well as ATC in further developing this excellent line of trailers. Excellent video

I mentioned many times to review this trailer glad you did... my mother actually just bought that exact same 28 foot front bedroom with all those same options with the generator onboard and everything and she paid far far less then that so the msrp of that is up that high but it was in the mid40s when it was all said and done just throwing it out there

@kevinj8258

5 жыл бұрын

nick samay - so it can be done at much less than MSRP. $40k ish is reasonable but likely a fight with high profit sales greedy folks. Will look at used market too in ten years.

@nicksamay1514

4 жыл бұрын

Steban just call them and price one it shouldn’t be any where near the 70s and

@stgraves260

2 жыл бұрын

They have a ATC in Fort Worth off 121 and Beach street here in Texas. They are nice but they are literally twice the price and they do NOT save that much weight. I looked at the 24 foot and they wanted $80k for it and it was only 600 lbs lighter than a steel one. I’m looking at a Sundowner right now for $42K with a 12’11” garage 4960 dry weight and a 8050 GVWR 8’ wide garage. 3500 lb Spread axle and it will smoke this ATC in quality. It is also 1/2 Ton towable 3 season coach instead of a 1 season like this ATC . It is also a aluminum toy box trailer. If you know anything about sundowner they make high end horse trailer with full living quarters and are now in the business of starting to make toy box trailers. Sundowner used to make the trailers for the Budweiser Clydesdales back in the 90s and early 2000. I used to wash their trailer every year when they would come to Texas for the stock show and Pioneer days. You step into one of those trailers and you step into a ATC and you will literally ask this guy I thought you said this was nice? The 24’ ATC I looked at weight around 5800 lbs when compared to the sundowner at the same length I don’t know what weight saving they are talking about, specially when it’s over 1,000 lbs heavier . You can make your own conclusion but I would look at Sundowner if you are looking for a very high quality toy box hauler. Nice video though.

@BamaTraveller

Жыл бұрын

Amazing how the market has changed since this comment!

Thanks for highlighting quality. ATC, InTech, and Sundowner are built for the long-haul.

I purchased an ATC cargo trailer a couple of months ago.. and I converted it to a toy hauler camper. Its pretty awesome.

@D2O2

5 жыл бұрын

And probably a lot cheaper. I like the ruggedness of this trailer, but it is basically a cargo trailer with some sparse tool boxes screwed to the wall for a really high price.

Now put a 24 foot version on a F550 cab chassis and take your toys waaaaayyyy back in the woods.

About time some company is making a travel trailer made right! I think... Hey, seal it up a bit, you got a boat camper!! I'd love that. I take more insulation over carrying stuff. Y'all need to make these for REAL cold and hot weather like I camp in.

@bloodsweatandsteel.2749

4 жыл бұрын

Make it arctic rated so you can take your snow mobile way out there.

@jordanfleming6203

2 жыл бұрын

I’m in Alberta and that would be amazing!!!

World of difference in this and a typical RV. We had horses and spent many weekends camping with the horses but also used that trailer for lake and beach weekends at campgrounds. It was all aluminum except the torsion axles and gooseneck, even had extruded aluminum slat floor. 42'L x 8'W x 8'T, 12' slide-out, full living quarters with 16' short wall on slant load trailer. When not taking horses we put grill and outdoor things where horses ride, along with collapsible tack room which allowed driving a golf cart into trailer. That trailer had every option the latest fifth wheel campers had but held resale value and was a very solid trailer. My wife has been wanting a fifth wheel and I told her I prefer getting another living quarters horse trailer even though we no longer own horses. It is built to haul weight (no under-sized axles), all aluminum structure and exterior, features of RV, they tow extremely well and they hold value. We towed 2-3 horses all over the East coast and mountains for 8 years with that trailer, no idea how many miles we put on the trailer. Never had any issues with it. My Mother-in-Law has a 10 year old camper set up on a beach lot, has been towed approximately 200 miles total. I went to check it for her Sunday to see if it needs any attention prior to her going this Spring to spend most of the Summer. First thing I noticed was how soft the floor was throughout the camper, every step felt like walking on a sponge. She has been getting RV guys in there every Summer for the past 4 years repairing things that are falling apart and it's not even used as a towed unit.

We bought an ATC toy hauler. It arrived with all kinds of things wrong with it. We’ve spent the past year documenting (videos and photos) the issues, on the phone and on the computer (emails) trying to get replacement parts and/or arranging to have things fixed. After over a year, things are finally close to what they should have been for a brand-new unit. Whenever I posted to ATC’s Facebook page, I was attacked, bullied for being disloyal, accused of everything from inflicting the damage ourselves to identity theft. It’s been a horrible, horrible experience. We’ve performed all but two of the repairs ourselves because, if the experts couldn’t build it correctly, how could we trust a dealer, who just sells them, to do a good job? The one time we did take it to the dealer to fix one of the rainwater leaks, they replaced the wrong part, and made the leaking area even larger.

@elaineclguerrero5592

2 жыл бұрын

Buyer Beware. We spent over 70k on ours: the roof leaked; several windows leaked, the gasoline system had two leaks, several cabinet doors and drawers were crooked, bent, or scratched. There was a chunk gouged out of the shower and its floor was cracked. The stereo did not work. The upholstery on both couches was ripped. The Happijac was installed incorrectly with loose/ bent screws and does not work properly - we are afraid that someone sitting below is going to get killed if/when the upper bed fails. Although under warranty, they refused to fix it without charging us. The back door is missing a seal … and on and on. We spoke with the dealer and ATC, and then asked about fixes on the ATC Facebook page. We were accused of damaging the rig ourselves, even though our photos were dated the day the hauler was delivered, while the driver was still there. I was accused of making it all up and of identity theft. Again, Buyer beware.

This guy knew his shit!! Impressive trailer. Knowledgeable salesman.

Prices are reasonable considering what you get.

I just started checking into RV's with real intentions, and the market seems flooded with crap that mostly seems to try and look new/modern styling, but feel like they are pretty much disposable. Nice to see these. Quality is always worth something.

@user-du7pe6pm7d

Жыл бұрын

AHAHAHAHAAHA -- better check on the quality issue with lots of the yutube videos that are on here about the problems they are having with these so-called well built trailers - - and most don't ever use yutube - they are having plenty of issues - especially for the price they demand - very poor quality control- if yu really look into em - and getting them fixed seems to be an issue also - some have even had problems with the axles of all things - they surely have suppressed as much as possible about such issues - very unprofessional like for sure - as if their workers and supervisors are incompetent - I grew up in a supervision family 7 decades ago -- the all aluminum is all that is special as to what I notice after years of looking - I am disappointed at the price verses the quality - twice as much - with problems - that sometimes are very big hassles to deal with - they blame it on their dealers of course ! - and only intervene if demanded to ! * - Rich people seem to have those issues if yu have ever noticed -

That is a great trailer and I'm impressed. My engineer son-in-law would love the industrial looks but many women wouldn't. Many people question why we bought a King Aire when we could have gotten a same sized Tiffin, Entegra, and such cheaper. I said because you have to pay for quality and a High end components. Quality cost more but maintains its value.

So glad you reviewed this brand as I just started evaluating using an aluminum design. Thank you.

Jeff was very knowledgeable. Impressive video. Thanks!

Thanks JD. , That was a very Nice Toy Hauler,. I was even thinking on one of those but you did a good walk through. Thanks. ! 🇺🇸

I think I've found the best option for a trailer camper.

They're built very well, and you pay a premium price for that quality.

Thanks for showing ATC trailers! 😁

Well built TT toy hauler. Thanks for sharing JD. That is a awesome trailer.

Man I love those ATC trailers. Truly a lifetime investment, buy ounce, cry ounce. And they hold there value, try finding a used one. Saving my pennies...

This channel got 100 times better showing these crazy built RVs. I’m still stuck on that Australia black series RV

That's a sick trailer, love that they are using azdel throughout the entire trailer along with aluminum. So no rust and no delamination. No worries of your stapled together cabnets falling apart. Truely a step above at a very reasonable price point.

Used to seeing this in the race Industry. Great feature !! Thanks so much for sharing .

Like the air stream! Better to pay upfront, and have it last. Then keep paying!!

@missmymountain

3 жыл бұрын

I know it was a grammatical error but your statement of "then" keep paying is the truth. Buy one at a higher initial price and keep paying the same as you would with any other brand and construction type. These are very nice for certain uses but there are a different set of cons with all aluminum construction.

I am a full timer and I am pretty impressed with that unit. But, there are a lot of good products out there, esp now.

I managed a RV store for a little while. I saw many people spend thousands of dollars repairing shotty work by manufactures. I am under the impression most all manufactures are garbage. While managing the RV company, I vowed I would never buy any trailer other than an ATC. Your mileage may vary but IMO, ATC is at the top of the food chain as far as I'm concerned for toy haulers.

@elaineclguerrero5592

5 жыл бұрын

Our ATC arrived in terrible condition; we’ve spent the past six months making repairs - “bones” are good, but otherwise NOT worth the 70k

@rebellucy5610

4 жыл бұрын

They all suck except Newell, Prevost, Marathon Coach etc.

@Outdoor-Adventures

3 жыл бұрын

Rebel Lucy we are talking about TT not coach correct?

@GiftHorse123

3 жыл бұрын

@@rebellucy5610 Don't forget Newmar.

Hmm this could have great application for custom builds. That could be a game changer.

These seem very well thought out and designed. Impressive. I'm gonna have to check these out in person.

This is my new standard of what I want it’s a gorgeous trailer and very well made love it

I had an ATC and loved it. Phenomenal quality. I wanted to upgrade to a fifth wheel but at the time they didn't offer one,... so I went to Grand Design. :-)

ATC has been on my radar for the past year. Solid, thoughtful construction that doesn't weigh anywhere close to my current bumper pull toy hauler. The only downside is the lack of four season capability. It's not an option for me, it has to be able to function down to about 5° F. The track system in the garage is sweet. That would make securing my side by side a lot easier. Hose out the garage? I could get used to that. One thing I don't recall seeing in that trailer is a skylight - at least not in the bathroom shower. To me, that's a good thing. One less component on the roof that will leak. How well will that tongue take to a WDH?

Another awesome video brother 👊. Jeff was a good guy to interview...very knowledgeable about the company and their products. You both made very good points about buying quality/ longevity vs. just only buying at a specific price point. I think with most everything, you do get what you pay for. You know... they are making a specific type of trailer out of specific materials to do a job and do it well. If someone doesn't like the design inside or the price or whatever then keep looking for something that's right for you. If I were in the market for a new toy hauler I would definitely look into this one.

This type of trailer isn't specifically for me. However I appreciate the build quality ATC is put it into their products. Man I just have to say this video was very well done. Both you and Jeff did a great job. Thank you BTBRV for always giving us the straightforward, important information we need to make educated decisions.

Nice trailer.....I like the "just hose it out" comment !!

I'm in LOVE!!!! 😍😍😍😍😍😍 I'm even sold on the price!!!

Great!! Will take the heating and insulation. Finally!

If one is pulling these with vehicles in them over rough offroads, this looks awesome. I've seen toyhaulers litteraly torn apart offrosd. Well Done

Quality has a price. My kind of trailer! aWesome interview!

Wow, impressed...and it has the generator option in a bumper pull. Can't wait to see one in person

I actual like this one, now I'll have to look up the company. Thank you for taking time to film, edit and post this video

Really like the interior design of this trailer!

They now make a 29.5 footer bumper pull with a 16 foot garage. It will hold my E46 BMW, and it still allows access to the kitchen, bath, and bedroom with the car loaded. Pretty dang sweet.

This is one nice trailer.

@opb7749

4 жыл бұрын

$75k did he say? Better be nice...

My wife and I have been looking at RVs for a while and have been turned off on their overall build quality. We have ATVs but never considered a toy hauler until coming across this video. Our order has been placed with expected delivery at the end of January! Thank you for this high quality and thorough walkthrough! Exactly what we've been looking for!

Built for the long term of RVing, similar to the Airstream. 28+ continuous feet of aluminum sheet roof, hope they have calculated the expansion factor when that aluminum hits +150F. Great video, I appreciate your detail in describing and drawing out the sales details on coaches. Your experience matters!

@THEjasonTDI

5 жыл бұрын

They did. I've watched mine and it does fine. They have been building world class race car trailers for some time. I have a car carrier from them as well. 10K miles last year and not a single problem with it.

Now if someone could make tow vehicles as good as quality as this trailer!😄

@henryford2736

5 жыл бұрын

F150 is made from aluminum alloy.

@jasonlarsen3515

5 жыл бұрын

Ford.com

@benjaminrobinson251

5 жыл бұрын

@@henryford2736 No it's not. Also, not sure what Dicks expectations are of his toads? He wants them to fly and pay for their own insurance? Plenty of "good quality" tow vehicles available. Assuming you're a normal person with realistic expectations of the universe you live in.

@henryford2736

5 жыл бұрын

@@benjaminrobinson251 What do you mean no. Since 2015 the F150 is made from aluminum alloy except for the frame. That's high strength steel. Light weight and stronger than steel. You don't know anything about the F150. I have one.

@benjaminrobinson251

5 жыл бұрын

@@henryford2736 That's quite a different statement than " f150s are made of aluminum" You're much closer but still not accurate.

unreal! great content as always

Man am I glad I came across this video!!! I think by far this is the best video of yours !!!! Well mostly because I am dealing with the limitations of my current 5th as it ages and having to do some costly repairs that will just not happen with a trailer like this, if its what I'm hoping! Seems like their projected release will be right in line of when I will be ready to upgrade!!

Great review- that’s a trailer I never heard of but I really like it and will have to check them out before I make a decision- thanks

Wow, this aluminum trailer is great. Very impressive build. I didn't know about the quality and price point part. I mean, it's to be expected of course, but according to you, the concept of "you get what you pay for" is very legit in the RV industry, so thanks for that info. I'll keep that in mind when I buy my RV.

@BigTruckBigRV

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks. And you can find these for upwards of 20-25% off MSRP. So you can get one of these in the mid $40s

Very nice, competent review.

Thank you for putting this video out. I’m impressed with it, it seems to be my type of trailer should I ever get one. I dont like all the wood that goes into a traditional travel trailer.

Awesome! Kinda like a Airstream. I like it. Thanks for the review

@JupiterOverland

4 жыл бұрын

No, not at all like an Airstream. Airstreams are loaded with wood and weigh a ton. The ATC is much better quality than the Airsteams. I know because I live in mine full time.

We saw this at the New England RV Show in Hartford CT back in January and the ATC are very well made and eliminates all the water leak rot issues that you'll get in any other RV.... as every RV will have a leak or two in time! These even have duel-pane windows and very large tanks... but... Our biggest concern was the very low insulation factor... We'd rather loose 4" of interior and be able to camp more comfortably in less than perfect weather.. also the better noise reduction with more insulation is a must... Love Your Neighbor... but you don't have to love your neighbor's noisy kids or generator!!! I'm glad they now have shorter 5rs with the 36 & 32!! My ATC wish list for a 36' 5r would be... 1) R40 roof, R11+ Walls, R35+ floors with enclosed belly!! 2) Bedroom slides (Gives you more leg room even with a King, Larger closet space & Washer/Dry prep)!! 3) Wood cabinets or at least wood cabinet doors esp in the bedroom.. (We plan on going full-time so the metal cabinets are not very homey/warm feeling)!!

I lived in Indiana for a bit, right next to ATC plant. I delivered their trailers all shapes and sizes. Quality is ridiculous. Spot on. When I would deliver trailers, other hot shot guys were dropping theirs off at the same time or even at the truck stops they would always compare the aluminum trailers they were hauling vs mine (ATC). Always blown away by the quality.

@meatballnevaeh

5 жыл бұрын

I delivered to a RV dealer in Vegas. He said shhhhh all the RVs on the lot are pretty much throw away but the ATC will last forever

Very nice trailer! I would love to own one. Great video!!

This is a well built camper and this was an excellent review but I have to agree with Jeff. No vapor barrier between the garage and living space and I shy away.

Thank you for that I love your show I can't wait to Obama first trailer I watch you all the time so when I bought my 1st trailer is all going to be because of you thank you for your work keep up the good work and I'm always watching

This is great for those of us that love to carry our toys I love the fact it's got the perfect floor and cabinets. I can't wait to see their 40' filth wheel. The fact that a person can powerwash the inside of it makes a great thing.

❤️u do good interviews, asking good questions. This is really sweet.

@donnaocasio45

5 жыл бұрын

Expressive Pets I’m looking for something that I can accommodate my pack (8) of dogs , toy haulers seem to be the ticket. I’ve seen TH with the the back ramp that converts to a deck, it was awesome.

@expressivepets1

5 жыл бұрын

@@donnaocasio45 Great solution... I'm thinking the loft is ideal for my bunny... And I travel with only two dogs... Love the patio conversion idea.

Can't wait to see the 5th wheeler..

Woohoo. Waiting to see the new Ford 7.3 specs so I can get one of these.

ATC will change the RV market, Quality is back

I almost bought one of these they are beautiful and very solid they wanted 52k with the generator for the 28 front bedroom I want with the Keystone impact travel trailer toy hauler which was only 28 k the one issue that kept me from buying was the fact that I do about 90% boondocking and once you start scraping in denting that aluminum gets very expensive

@expressivepets1

5 жыл бұрын

❤️

It'd be really cool if you could get a version where the rear ramp instead turns into a fold-out deck with a glass screen door access

ATC makes a stacker trailer that is bad ass .

Very nice trailer. He is right, with aluminum you are talking decades not years. We have 1996 aluminum frame and skin Holiday Rambler. This type of trailer will last for long long long time.

Awsome !!Thanks

I swear to god that salesman was 2 seconds from proposing to you. You hit all the key selling points and factors before he could and all he could do was say yep, yep, yep lol

This is Max Stallsmith; I'm the gentleman who commented about the towing quite a bit ago. After seeing this trailer; I'm sure that you now understand the "why" I've decided to go with this company for my RV Trailer.

Just started looking at RVs and I can’t believe the complete junk they all are. I see so many videos of people with units that are new or only a couple years old and they are falling apart. It’s nice to see something that will actually last

Love it!

No front bedroom in mine, but my 24’ ATC trailer is awesome! Had it since 2016.

No way I was gonna message you about this and see what you knew and curious of your opinion based on price and all thanks BTBRV YOU ROCK

Wow pay once have it for a very long time.

Be nice to have that at 40 feet long .Great floor plan in it and design.

Great video.they make a 5th wheel aswell.

That is a nice hauler,

All aluminum!!! Get a couple of wings for it and really go places.

RV's and Trailers are like the old car sales market, start high and negotiate down, big discounts if you buy at the right time of the year because most manufacturers over produce.

I greatly value your videos and input on these trailers. The importance of structure build quality is overlooked by most RVrs. This unit being reviewed is without a doubt very well built. However not very roomy for a full timer. In your opinion what are some of the best Toy Hauler RVs for full time living.

ATC REP SAID, “tremendous”. Hahahahaha

Thanks for the vid. Been looking at these. What did you think? You mention some upcoming videos in the comments here. Any hints as to what those may be?

Wow! That is really nice. Too bad they don't build truck campers.

The Airstream of toy haulers!

@JupiterOverland

4 жыл бұрын

No, not at all like an Airstream. Airstreams are loaded with wood and weigh a ton. The ATC is much better quality than the Airsteams. I know because I live in mine full time.

I need this in a four season package will they make me one snowmobile ready ? With a better living area ? What time are they showing the new fifth wheels and we’re do we see them there website isn’t up to date

very nice rv

My dream hauler 😍

They make excellent trailers and i would gladly pay for quality, however 74K is good coin for a 28 ft bumper pull \ toy hauler

@THEjasonTDI

5 жыл бұрын

You'll never pay that for one even full optioned out.

With no slide outs, I would like to see 2 chairs with fold up table, and would love to see a wall between the kitchen and where the gas vehicle goes, who wants to smell gas….otherwise pretty well planned out

show one more thought came to my mind, if there is an electrical failure or by accident touching the electrical network, it will not expose the occupants to the shock.

Aka Airstream toy hauler. Sweet🇺🇸❤️

@JupiterOverland

4 жыл бұрын

No, not at all like an Airstream. Airstreams are loaded with wood and weigh a ton. The ATC is much better quality than the Airsteams. I know because I live in mine full time.

Nice quality

You have to do a video on those fifth wheels.... that they’re putting out very interested

First off, love watching your vids, always informative. One question. Would you take this toy hauler over Outdoors Rv toy hauler? Build quality, durability, etc? Thanks

The bathroom is bigger than my 1st college apartment BR

A different recipe. You mean coping the best

I know folks are concerned with winter...I'm curious how all that aluminum handles really hot weather? If your park loses power, does it become even more of a big oven? I have had that happen in a class c. I think this would be a wonderful rv for a mobility challenged person who needs a scooter and a lift chair. Just awesome!

Aluminum is a good construction material with several benefits, that being said, many years ago when they first started producing Aluminum livestock and cattle trailers they were very prone to cracking and you needed special equipment and welders to do repairs on them. In general Aluminum does not have the same flexibility as steel, at least the cattle trailers couldn't flex very much without cracking.