QD-OLED Price Drop? Will LCDs Remain Relevant? 1440p 240Hz or 4K 144Hz? December Q&A

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00:00 - Welcome Back to Monitors Unboxed
00:51 - How Much Does Refresh Compliance Matter?
05:33 - Do Overdrive Settings Matter At Fixed Refresh Rates?
07:41 - Should Monitors Include USB-C?
11:14 - Will IPS and VA Remain Relevant Up Against OLED?
13:48 - Will QD-OLED Monitors Drop in Price?
15:50 - Do I Prefer High Refresh Rates or Good Colors and HDR?
19:13 - Where Will Monitors Go In the Future?
23:38 - Capping Monitor Hz When No Single Overdrive Mode Experience?
26:34 - Steps to Improve Out Of The Box Calibration?
30:45 - 1440p or 4K at 32-inches?
34:47 - 1440p 240Hz or 4K 144Hz at Same Price?
38:36 - Why Aren't sRGB Modes Enabled By Default?
42:32 - Outro
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  • @redrock425
    @redrock425 Жыл бұрын

    Just waiting for a nice affordable 32" 4K 144Hz+ OLED now. Nothing else makes sense going from a 1440p 144Hz monitor.

  • @genocidehero9687

    @genocidehero9687

    Жыл бұрын

    1440p 240??

  • @Jeriks

    @Jeriks

    Жыл бұрын

    1440p 240Hz :-)

  • @GewelReal

    @GewelReal

    Жыл бұрын

    1440p 360Hz 4K 240Hz

  • @admiralsc1

    @admiralsc1

    Жыл бұрын

    Ultra wide doesn't make sense?

  • @spraynardkruger6426

    @spraynardkruger6426

    Жыл бұрын

    @@admiralsc1 ultrawide 1440 160 is my preference slash sweet spot so I jumped on the alienware. Saying nothing else "makes sense" is..... just plain stupid.

  • @rodhester2166
    @rodhester2166 Жыл бұрын

    I got my daughter the MSI MAG281URF, 28" for 599 U.S., she plays ps5 fps , I bought myself the gigabyte m32u for 649.99 because I use it for work, youtube, movies and more single player games. We are both happy with the choices made. Thanks for all your reviews, it helped out so much.

  • @DarthChewie

    @DarthChewie

    Жыл бұрын

    Daaaammnn. You're daughter has a cool dad!

  • @dildojizzbaggins6969

    @dildojizzbaggins6969

    Жыл бұрын

    You let your daughter play frickin' SHOOTERS on console? With a game-pad? And you buy her a freakin' PC-MONITOR for that?! Either you should disown her for playing like an idiot (does she eat soup with a fork as well?), or she you for raising her to play like an idiot (did you teach her to eat soup with a fork?). Biggest ouch in a while. Oof...

  • @rodhester2166

    @rodhester2166

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dildojizzbaggins6969ugh.. She also has her macbook connected to the monitor and will soon have my current pc once my new build is complete. Do you recommend her using a giant tv in a bedroom for a laptop. pc and ps5? Or would it be better to use a monitor with hdmi 2.1 that is excellent for a ps5 and a Dp for a pc. It is also faster and easier to react in fps when you do not have to scan a large TV sized screen. As for the personal attack on how I raise my daughter. hmm. your name says it all.

  • @slappjacks4050

    @slappjacks4050

    Жыл бұрын

    Do you need a son? LOL

  • @larion2336

    @larion2336

    Жыл бұрын

    @@slappjacks4050 lmao

  • @RedfernYT
    @RedfernYT Жыл бұрын

    Looking forward to your thoughts on LG’s upcoming 27” 1440p 240Hz OLED, been waiting for one for so long and hope it lives up to expectations.

  • @I_Am_Hateful

    @I_Am_Hateful

    Жыл бұрын

    same boat as you, even the matte coating isnt putting me off from it. would prefer glossy but with a dual monitor set up glossy might be a bad thing cause youll see yout 2nd monitor screen more than anything.

  • @iamfrog6747

    @iamfrog6747

    Жыл бұрын

    If this is a big investment for you Id personally wait for 2024 and see what samsung displays offers. With the introduction of blue pholed and a single substrate design the panels will be: -More efficient -Cheaper to produce -Have a standard pixel layout -Bendable but probably up to the manufacturer Although I cant guarantee that there will be 27inch 1440p 240hz options it might be wise to wait a bit :)

  • @Eli-zb2yj

    @Eli-zb2yj

    Жыл бұрын

    I got a samsung odyssey g7 neo for 800$ in black Friday it's very close to oled

  • @RedfernYT

    @RedfernYT

    Жыл бұрын

    @@iamfrog6747 Ah well I’ll be waiting a while either way since I very recently bought the 1440p 270Hz ROG XG27AQM (maybe should’ve waited a bit longer for the OLEDs at the least but I’m happy with it), appreciate the info though, wasn’t aware of much of that.

  • @edmundddd

    @edmundddd

    Жыл бұрын

    Was going to comment the same thing, please make a video covering this monitor if you can get your hands on it early

  • @Dan____
    @Dan____ Жыл бұрын

    Been waiting for your input on this OLED monitor.

  • @tuntitommosille
    @tuntitommosille Жыл бұрын

    With a lot of people now working from home, it's actually really useful having a USB-C connector on the monitor with support for DP alt mode, PD with enough juice to power a laptop and preferably also USB hub functionality, so that you can just plug in your work laptop with a single cable and easily switch between your home/gaming system and the work laptop. Automatic input switching is also nice to have (looking at you LG). Not saying all monitors should have this, but it would be really nice to see more monitors with both gaming and productivity features.

  • @spawndli1410
    @spawndli1410 Жыл бұрын

    Still worried about Burn in ...even if it happens after5 years. I still have ten year old monitors...Making all monitors OLED however would be a good way for the manufacturers to introduce planned obsolescence...which scares the hell out of me

  • @mattgreenfield8038

    @mattgreenfield8038

    Жыл бұрын

    I love glossy glassy OLED. The picture quality, contrast is 2nd to none. Even QD-OLEDs use the blurry grayed out mess of a screen, ruining the perceived picture quality. All things get old and break. If anything, it gives you a reason to go out and get the shiny new OLED, when your old trashy tv/monitor should be thrown out anyway. The picture quality it too good to ignore. If you really have burn in problems, just get another one. They are cheap right now

  • @alishams4496

    @alishams4496

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mattgreenfield8038 you probably have too much income to understand his worries. not everyone has enough income to justify replacing things faster and faster

  • @paulcox2447

    @paulcox2447

    Жыл бұрын

    @@alishams4496 this guy has sold his soul to corporate hell. New iPhone every year lol

  • @serjavul4635

    @serjavul4635

    Жыл бұрын

    @@paulcox2447 yall just broke bums

  • @milesennium
    @milesennium Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for answering my question Tim! It's an exciting time for monitors and can't wait to see what 2023 holds 😆

  • @onboardlotus
    @onboardlotus Жыл бұрын

    That first question was kinda a banger thank you :D

  • @Drewtheelder
    @Drewtheelder Жыл бұрын

    Thanks, Tim for a great show, so much info clearly and logically explained, my goto channel for monitors.

  • @spacemanonearth8830
    @spacemanonearth8830 Жыл бұрын

    My MSI MAG M274QRX arrived today, I wanted get the recent cooler master one you reviewed but they were sadly not available in my country. So I had to sacrifice true HDR but still its a great monitor regardless, well within my budget and I'm happy to use it for the next however many years! Thanks for your reviews they helped me out a lot!

  • @user-bonk
    @user-bonk Жыл бұрын

    Thanks, those later half are exactly what i need.

  • @thesteampunkinc
    @thesteampunkinc Жыл бұрын

    Hey there’s my question, thanks for the in depth answer Tim!

  • @halrichard1969
    @halrichard1969 Жыл бұрын

    I bought the DWF version. Thanks for reaffirming your choice of gaming monitor for personal use.

  • @foch3

    @foch3

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah I probably should have waited for DWF but I jumped on the DW and I'm really happy with it.

  • @igavinwood
    @igavinwood Жыл бұрын

    I wish I had some of this info before I, just, bought my 32" monitor :) Great info, good questions. These Q&A sessions are the most helpful. Probably the best on YT. Thanks for doing these Tim.

  • @tomvandongen8075
    @tomvandongen8075 Жыл бұрын

    Hey Tim, thanks for answering my question! I play a lot of from software titles, so unfortunately 60Hz performance will always be critical to me!

  • @krandeloy
    @krandeloy Жыл бұрын

    Only reason I can think of to cap refresh rate to below what your monitor is fully capable of (taking into consideration it's full capabilities like you mentioned) is for consistency from the GPU. If the 5% lows are too low, that hitching can be incredibly distracting and annoying, so just capping the refresh rate to what your GPU can handle with the game can keep such bad performance from being so jarring. I'm thinking about Callisto Protocol, very recent game runs like garbage on many PC set ups.

  • @Eskoxo

    @Eskoxo

    Жыл бұрын

    not sure that would help with anything i would cap it in software not on monitor hz setting.

  • @LutraLovegood

    @LutraLovegood

    Жыл бұрын

    Also useful for SVP to hit a multiple of whatever you're watching with 0 extra frames with odd timing, or even just for youtube (144/165/175 don't divide evenly by 30/60)

  • @RedfernYT

    @RedfernYT

    Жыл бұрын

    @@LutraLovegood I capped my 270Hz to 240 for this reason (though I also don’t often get 270fps anyway), not sure I even notice any difference but 240 divides into pretty much everything nicely.

  • @sneedsneed460
    @sneedsneed460 Жыл бұрын

    I went to a GP950 from 1440p 240hz and don’t regret it, 4k 160hz feels almost as smooth and in lots of multiplayer games the extra clarity does help.

  • @deadmanwalking1930
    @deadmanwalking1930 Жыл бұрын

    I have a 1440p 165hz dell monitor, but recently got a Samsung S95 and use that to game on. QD OLED is incredible. I still love my monitor but would be well happy to use my tv as monitor all the time, but dont want to get burn in so I keep to occasional use and make sure no static image stays on for too long.

  • @12lippylucy
    @12lippylucy Жыл бұрын

    Great monitor guide. I bought my 1440p monitor about 7 years ago for £650, still using it today, but my next buy will be a 4K model.

  • @lewisrobinson3380
    @lewisrobinson3380 Жыл бұрын

    19:15 Pretty sure the answer here is getting 4k, 1000Hz + pixel response time to match that with full HDR capability in a ~24-32in monitor is pretty much the goal. We might see a resolution upgrade to be slightly beyond 4k (2880p maybe) but I doubt anyone is going to care about 8k in the monitor/desktop/laptop space.

  • @Jamesified
    @Jamesified Жыл бұрын

    4k is fantastic for coding. Love 4k 27 high ppi with 150% scaling.

  • @liamness

    @liamness

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, my M28U pulls excellent double duty between work and play.

  • @andrewcross5918

    @andrewcross5918

    Жыл бұрын

    Agreed although I went 40" and run at 100% scale. Easy on the eye and great for having lots of screens open.

  • @SuperYtc1

    @SuperYtc1

    Жыл бұрын

    Can you recommend me a good 4k monitor? I’m also a coder and after looking at a MacBook I can’t code on anything less sharp.

  • @condorX2

    @condorX2

    Жыл бұрын

    Good to know. 5:38 on OD really helps me understand how my $200 laptop with a RTX 1050-Ti able to run Red dead redemption 2 and GTA 5 on max settings. This prove you can save a lot of money by investing in an good affordable laptop. Check my latest video upload for proof.

  • @RolandsSh
    @RolandsSh Жыл бұрын

    For the questions about where the monitors will go in the future - I completely agree that all of the areas that you mentioned have a massive room for improvement. However, none of the things are easily marketable like "4k" or "240 Hz". Do you expect the industry at large to move towards more strict certifications and standards in order to differentiate their newer and improved products? For example, in 5 years your average buyer will see two monitors with "4k 240Hz HDR10" on the box and think they are exactly the same.

  • @MagiofAsura

    @MagiofAsura

    Жыл бұрын

    Hdr already has the displayvesa certification so there already is a range of "hdr10" monitors ranging from we are hdr10 in the sense that it accepts the signal but does nothing to effectively display it to displayhdr1500 monitors that can beautifully blind you when you look at the sun in game with WCG, 1000+ zones, and a stupid high contrast ratio.

  • @laggingdaze
    @laggingdaze Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for taking up my question-glad to hear your thoughts on it! I do agree that USB-C cables can be quite convoluted given the amount of variation of capabilities a cable can have without any obvious indication of those capabilities; I wish there were more specific indications on the cables for the capabilities they were rated for. Would be nice as cables usually just get bundled up and put away in a similar location without labeling while also tossing away the original packaging, in my case at least. My question was formed from seeing the AMD reference models for the RX 6000 series having a USB-C display out. It was also formed while thinking about surpassing the need for a hub/dock for devices like tablets, phones, handhelds, and thin laptops that only have USB-C ports since most of them are relying on USB-C to output a display signal but monitors usually don’t natively support USB-C for display in. Having this feature on monitors would drop the need for a hub/dock and be more simple with only one cable if you’re only looking to get a display out from the device. Anyway, glad to hear your thoughts on this question and on the many other questions you answered in this Q&A session. Will definitely like to see more of these in the future!

  • @CIARUNSITE

    @CIARUNSITE

    9 ай бұрын

    I was very confused to pull a USB-C to DisplayPort cable out of my AW3423DWF box. It's so short it won't reach my tower so I just used my regular DP to DP cable. I'm wondering if I'm missing something by not using it since Dell went to the lengths of including it.

  • @hiddenusers
    @hiddenusers Жыл бұрын

    looking forward to your thoughts on LGs upcoming 32 inch and above 240hz OLED

  • @_clorp
    @_clorpАй бұрын

    Thank you for clear thoughts on the 32" monitors. Literally trying to figure rhat same thing out now

  • @IRQ1Conflict
    @IRQ1Conflict Жыл бұрын

    Been using a 1440p 144hz monitor for years. Still quite happy with it.

  • @SeVeN42095
    @SeVeN42095 Жыл бұрын

    The gigabyte m28u is really really good budget 4k monitor, especially for ps5 or xbox series x. Only reason to update to $800-$1000 monitor range for console is to get a better hdr experience imo.

  • @someguy1286

    @someguy1286

    Жыл бұрын

    the acer nitro xv282k was on sale for as low as 400 bucks on Amazon for Black Friday. That's a tad nicer than the m28u

  • @etmargallo

    @etmargallo

    Жыл бұрын

    I got 2 of them, I love ‘em

  • @rawrj
    @rawrj Жыл бұрын

    Having owned 2 OLED TV's that suffered burn-in that is my biggest concern about making the switch. When they all come with built-in active cooling I'll consider it.

  • @Apollo-Computers

    @Apollo-Computers

    Жыл бұрын

    I played a ton of final fantasy 14 on my Alienware qd oled for a good 6 months and still have zero burn in.

  • @christophervanzetta

    @christophervanzetta

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Apollo-Computers cool story bro…

  • @gmcanepa
    @gmcanepa Жыл бұрын

    A question I constantly have when watching reviews is "Is there any way to know if monitors of the same family as the one reviewed behave similarly? So, for example, the 32" version if you reviewed the 27" one? or maybe the white version of a black monitor? or the curved version of the flat one?

  • @simptrix007
    @simptrix007 Жыл бұрын

    I got myself 32 inch QHD 270Hz monitor this week. Only slightly cheaper than 32 inch 4K 144Hz options but I was afraid of losing good motion clarity. Similiar pixel density like my previous 24,5 inch 1080p 240Hz monitor. My focus were MMORPGs but it handles MW2 and CS:GO pretty well.

  • @Thebmanboss

    @Thebmanboss

    Жыл бұрын

    Can you give me the name of that monitor I’m looking for a 32 inch high hz monitor also what is the resolution of it?

  • @jasielmireles2052

    @jasielmireles2052

    Жыл бұрын

    im between Lg 32gq850-b and Gigabyte M32u which one do you recomend?

  • @gaurd3
    @gaurd3 Жыл бұрын

    I’m more of a single player narrative gamer. I recently got an LG G2. I’m never paying the inflated price of a gaming Monitors again. Looking at you Asus 32 pq32uqx. The LG does everything I need. 100ish FPS is perfect for me in single and multiple player.

  • @mike_abramyan
    @mike_abramyan Жыл бұрын

    I just got the LG C2 :) Oled supremacy!!

  • @MSJChem
    @MSJChem Жыл бұрын

    Waiting for a 240Hz 4K 32 inch OLED

  • @erikvasquez9997
    @erikvasquez9997 Жыл бұрын

    I got a Samsung G7 32" earlier this year for $450 and can't complain but hopefully in the next year or so I can upgrade to an OLED panel as I do love those pretty pretty colors. For now though the VA panel ain't bad.

  • @ianfitchett2768
    @ianfitchett2768 Жыл бұрын

    I ended up getting a aw3423dwf to replace my fried Asus PG27UQ (rip). Kinda validating to hear that you're gaming on that display as well lol. I do miss the 4k and the peak brightness, but the contrast, colors, and semi gloss coating on the Dell are the best I've ever seen, and the hit to resolution and brightness are a little offset by the ultrawide aspect ratio and qd-oled technology

  • @delenius1
    @delenius1 Жыл бұрын

    Great answer on the future of monitors! I hate it when tech reviewers think we've already reached the pinnacle of technologies. There are indeed lots of areas of improvement left for many years to come.

  • @omgvague

    @omgvague

    Жыл бұрын

    Our "tech" isn't even that old. Hell, the industrial revolution is considered new by historical standards and we've come a looong way from steam trains and crank cars. The only thing that will stop the advancement of technology is ourselves.

  • @brandonbeckham8803
    @brandonbeckham8803 Жыл бұрын

    Speaking of future monitor tech if you haven’t already you should look at light field displays. I’d like to hear your thoughts

  • @BrotherO4
    @BrotherO4 Жыл бұрын

    regarding single Overdrive, if the monitor in question does not have a single OD setting. if your monitor is 240hz or more than you can in fact turn off Freesync and you wont see any Tearing. i tried this going as low as 40ish fps. my monitor (gigbitye m27 X) has it turn off so i dont have to deal with any over/undershoot at any Refresh rate.

  • @Erniebern06
    @Erniebern06 Жыл бұрын

    Amazing video. I feel the questions were really in line with the dialogue I had going on in my head. Especially when shopping or watching your reviews. I got beat out to buying the last MAG274QRX, for 500 usd, at my local microcenter. So I just ordered a MAG274QRF QD (it's in hot demand) as soon as it came into stock for 350 usd, and using a 50 dollar gift card to cut it down to 300. I feel great about my purchase still despite not having the 240hz I still like the numbers the QRF QD puts up. Not playing nearly as much fast twitch as I used to play, so now I love the more demanding 1 player stuff but I still mix it up. I can give it to my nephew in the near future anyhow. 13700k/3080 12gb/6400 ddr5 here so I have room to stretch. I'll save the change to 240hz for another day. I'm barely moving from an 1080p Acer Predator TN panel that served me well in my fast twitch days.

  • @omgvague

    @omgvague

    Жыл бұрын

    I just got the same monitor. I can't get into battle royales the same as I used to get into arena shooters but likewise, the 1p stuff is gorgeous.

  • @roscoejones4335
    @roscoejones4335 Жыл бұрын

    I just bought a punch of parts for my first ever pc build, a 1440p gaming rig. When getting down to choosing the monitor I didn't like the ips glow / low contrast of ips and don't want a curved VA and have to compromise motion blur and have a curved screen to achieve contrast. LG announced this new monitor for me specifically, coincidences do not exist. This thing will sell like hot cakes , hopefully the longevity and build quality is decent at this intro price point. LG know this market is there and salivating. Smart play.

  • @roscoejones4335

    @roscoejones4335

    Жыл бұрын

    Wondering if you will get to test and review the LG 1440p OLED before it hits the market. Really hope so.

  • @tylerthere5832
    @tylerthere5832 Жыл бұрын

    Really hope they up the sdr brightness on these oled monitors. I’m glad there’s no abl active but 200nits is too dim for competitive for me and hdr is too inconsistent.

  • @king3213
    @king3213 Жыл бұрын

    Id like to hear your thoughts on the processing delay blurbusters said comes with OLED monitors

  • @dagnisnierlins188
    @dagnisnierlins188 Жыл бұрын

    Upgraded from qnix led dp10 to a gigabyte m32q and was disappointed at first with the colours, they looked the same , until I realised, they both are colour calibrated, of course gonna look close to each other, big ooof from me.

  • @steverupert6988
    @steverupert6988 Жыл бұрын

    32” OLED with 165hz (or higher) would be absolutely perfect. 💯

  • @KPAki1Ler
    @KPAki1Ler11 ай бұрын

    Ok so I'm adding a new monitor to my setup soon. My current one is (u2713hm 1440 60hz IPS) 9 years old! It's going to be replaced as my main monitor by the AW2723DF 1440p 240hz/280 oc, nano IPS. I think it'll be a great upgrade for me! Not sure a 4K monitor at the same price will be worth it, figure a decent 4k monitor is around £1k.. I should mention OLED is fantastic for TV technology watching films etc bought mine in 2018 no issues. But as a PC monitor I'm not sure.

  • @emeraldcelestial1058
    @emeraldcelestial1058 Жыл бұрын

    jumping straight in without the music is a good idea imo

  • @hrod9393
    @hrod9393 Жыл бұрын

    I am fine with MiniLED, they can keep improving quanity of dimming zones, but it's already pretty good with the Neo G8. Until they get better text clarity, and don't use dimming protocols to protect burn in, OLED/ QLED is not fully viable for 24/7 PC monitor. Also none can do 240hz 4k yet either.

  • @zanblr

    @zanblr

    Жыл бұрын

    Qled is a variation of LCD as opposed to qd-oled

  • @noemedmedia
    @noemedmedia Жыл бұрын

    Highly engaging!

  • @douglaspianta4187
    @douglaspianta4187 Жыл бұрын

    The one future tech i want is for oled to solve burn in. If that happens it will be the default monitor tech going forward for me. As it is it is just restricted to my tv where movies and games can be played, but not general long term desktop.

  • @l3v1ckUK
    @l3v1ckUK Жыл бұрын

    I'm interested in when we'll see QD-OLED laptops.

  • @tonac13
    @tonac13 Жыл бұрын

    Waiting the 40-42" 5k2k 144Hz OLED and I will buy that no matter the cost :D

  • @scottcondie1363
    @scottcondie1363 Жыл бұрын

    Top pick for me would be the aw3423dwf, but if I wait long enough maybe they will have a 4k version

  • @MaddaxxxE
    @MaddaxxxE Жыл бұрын

    27” 1440 240hz is my dream display.

  • @stephaneduhamel7706
    @stephaneduhamel7706 Жыл бұрын

    ICC profiles tend to introduce color banding even on properly dithered color gradients (I think it's because the ICC profiles don't change the response curve of the display, but simply changes the color signal to trick the display into outputting more accurate colors). Is buying a monitor with perfect out-of-the box accuracy the only way to get accurate colors without banding, or is there more "low-level" way to do calibration?

  • @Alauz
    @Alauz Жыл бұрын

    27" 4K 240Hz OLED, I am ready!

  • @RJMin2
    @RJMin2 Жыл бұрын

    32-34" 1440p or 40-45" 4k, 200+Hz qd-oled, 16-21:9, 800 +nits. I'll wait for this. Hopefully CES wont disappoint.

  • @DuBstep115

    @DuBstep115

    Жыл бұрын

    4k 120hz 42" oled is just perfect. Under 800 bucks

  • @stillmoms

    @stillmoms

    Жыл бұрын

    Is there even any OLED television that can hit 800+ nits full brightness? I think we’ll be waiting until micro-LED becomes economically viable to hit brightnesses of that level.

  • @DuBstep115

    @DuBstep115

    Жыл бұрын

    @@stillmoms bits or nits? If nits, then yes, yes there is Lg g2 has +1000

  • @RJMin2

    @RJMin2

    Жыл бұрын

    @@stillmoms they are coming, eventually. Recently read about a breakthrough with blue phosphorescent tech. Might take a few years to see that though. They can still marginally improve in the meantime by better heat dissipation.

  • @stillmoms

    @stillmoms

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DuBstep115 Not sustained, and not anywhere close to full-screen though. These are the weaknesses of OLED.

  • @wiedapp
    @wiedapp Жыл бұрын

    Just pulled the trigger an a cheap Samsung U28R554UQR (28", 4K, IPS, 60Hz), it was on sale for €200 (incl. VAT & shipping). As I am not really gaming, I deem that thing enough for my needs. Beyond the occasional game of building cities and societies and the like I consider it out of the ordinary to play a round of some shooter against some bots... I'll put that thing to use in CAD, without the need for absolute color accuracy. Otherwise it'll only see office and mostly the web browser with some YT clips in between. Considering what I otherwise work with (15.6" TN, 24" old TN and newer VA, all 60Hz) that is still a humongous upgrade. I was totally blown away when I unpacked it and set it up for the first time to check for defects. Forgot to mention: It will be fed mostly by Intel IGP or AMD APU, low tier dGPU at most.

  • @tafarimakonnan1763
    @tafarimakonnan1763 Жыл бұрын

    When will you cover portable oled monitors?

  • @KristianKumpula
    @KristianKumpula Жыл бұрын

    I've been holding out on getting an OLED because of the prices being north of a thousand, thinking I could never get one that fits my budget, but I recently got an LG C2 at a discount for 900. Now I can't go back even if I have to get another one for more than that. I hadn't realised how much I disliked having a backlight until I experienced those perfectly dark blacks, infinite contrast, and extremely wide viewing angles that come with OLED.

  • @BedBug1984
    @BedBug1984 Жыл бұрын

    As long as the OLEDS have horrendous burn-in issues(which they objectively do) + insane brightness and color degradation in less than a year with normal use, LCD's will be relevant for quite a long time. There's a reason samsung abandoned OLED tech, sold it to LG and now use some of LG's(old samsung tech) OLEDS just to keep with the hype train. As someone who has tested over 100 gaming monitors in the last 5 years, as of this point in time MiniLED/FALD monitors are HIGHLY superior to OLEDS(not in contrast but in longevity and they are close enough in contrast and color quality).

  • @WiseSilverWolf
    @WiseSilverWolf Жыл бұрын

    When are Displayport 2.1 monitors coming out?

  • @Regxar
    @Regxar Жыл бұрын

    Looking at either the LG Flex or the Corsair Xeneon Flex. Waiting on a comparison before release.

  • @rodhester2166
    @rodhester2166 Жыл бұрын

    for office work usb-c is great. laptop to monitor and then the second monitor daisy chains to the first monitor via usb-c, also the usb-c from monitor to laptop is charging the laptop.. way less cabling. With the speeds of usb always increasing who knows ..

  • @liamness

    @liamness

    Жыл бұрын

    They're pushing up against the physical limitations of copper, it seems. The usb-c cable I use to connect to my M28U monitor is a little under a meter long. If it was longer then it would either not offer the same bandwidth, or it would have to be a hybrid electrical / optical cable which drives up the price significantly. My hope is that eventually, optical connections become part of the usb-c standard, then cheap and extremely high bandwidth cables with long runs would be possible.

  • @rodhester2166

    @rodhester2166

    Жыл бұрын

    @@liamness Agreed. Hopefully optical takes over. For now work doesnt require as fast of response time ect.. Today, USB-C can support various data transfer rates, from 0.48Gbps (USB 2.0) all the way to 40Gbps (USB4, Thunderbolt 3, and Thunderbolt 4). Things are only about to intensify, as today the USB Implementers Forum (USB-IF) published the USB4 Version 2.0 spec. It adds optional support for 80Gbps bidirectional bandwidth as well as the optional ability to send or receive data at up to 120Gbps.

  • @brianbaker3400
    @brianbaker3400 Жыл бұрын

    Just got my m28u fired up. Getting close to maxing it out with 4090 on high setting in Cod and Tarkov. Very nice. Not real thrilled with brightness coming from LG27GN850

  • @brianbaker3400

    @brianbaker3400

    Жыл бұрын

    I ended up returning the M28u and went the LG 27gp950-b. M28u was lacking brightness. I tried to play Escape from Tarkov and couldnt see anything on some of the maps. its a dark game as it is. The LG appears to be much better for me

  • @gabrielst527
    @gabrielst527 Жыл бұрын

    A good video would be testing the black frame insertion features of monitors at 60 fps since fighting game players have the fps locked at 60 for balance purposes. Would be cool to see the best monitor for emulation / fighting games that way.

  • @fullclip_nz
    @fullclip_nz Жыл бұрын

    msqx vs msqu.... buy the 4k if you play controller, buy the 2k if you play mnk for multiplayer fps. if you play single player titles the 4k option is the one, taking into account that your system esp CPU & GPU can handle the jandle

  • @666thsense
    @666thsense Жыл бұрын

    both monitors and hardware unboxed should be in the millions of views. the most useful and informative channel. unfortunately most gamers don't seem to care much about facts.

  • @scimitar4211
    @scimitar4211 Жыл бұрын

    Are icc profiles enough to adjust settings or do I need to tweak the monitor settings as well on top of icc profiles?

  • @Kizzster
    @Kizzster Жыл бұрын

    4K 240HZ OLED MONITORS NEEDED NOW AT ACCEPTABLE SIZES!! LG I'm looking at you...

  • @Slimmeyy
    @Slimmeyy Жыл бұрын

    I personally lock GTA (or more specifically FiveM) to 60 fps for fair racing. On PC GTA, higher fps still makes your car faster. Hopefully we get whatever update was done to the PS5/XS release so I can let it run at 175 or something (would be nice if the engine limit of 188 was gone to so I can do 200+)

  • @ActionBrother
    @ActionBrother Жыл бұрын

    Since my new work laptop only has USB-C ports, I do really appreciate monitors that have a USB-C DP-alt port. I do think new monitors should at least have 1 USB-C port. And if not, provide at least 2 DisplayPort ports so you can at leat eaily use a USB-C to DisplayPort next to your DisplayPort to Displayport for your desktop.

  • @lyianx
    @lyianx Жыл бұрын

    Curious of your thoughts on the new Viewsonic ultrawide Elite

  • @austintse5719
    @austintse5719 Жыл бұрын

    You can get a display port or hdmi to usb-c adaptor and also dp to usb-c cable's. I'm using them on my Samsung 28" 4K so I can connect my Asus rog strix laptop with a dp to usb-c cable to get the max refresh rate as well as my RX6800XT PC to my LG C2.

  • @liamness

    @liamness

    Жыл бұрын

    It's so handy to just be able to plug in with one cable and get access to video, audio, charging and also connect to any attached peripherals though. Very handy to be able to easily switch my M28U between my work laptop and Steam Deck for instance. Neither will fast charge as the wattage isn't high enough, but it's good enough to keep it topped up for general use.

  • @lorefx1648
    @lorefx1648 Жыл бұрын

    Hello! Could you help me? Can you tell me what you think about the benq mobiuz ex2710q? I can't decide between this and the lg27gp850. Thanks

  • @JDHitchman
    @JDHitchman Жыл бұрын

    Tim, I currently have two MSI Optix MAG274QRF-QD monitors and would like to find a compatible 32" monitor for a center display in a three monitor setup driven by an RTX 3080Ti FE. Do you have any monitor recommendations or perhaps general guide lines for how to go about selecting a good compatible monitor?

  • @justinvoye8967
    @justinvoye8967 Жыл бұрын

    Great video! What if I need a monitor for both professional work (sRGB) color accuracy and for gaming? Do I run the AW2423DW next to a color accurate monitor? I can only have one work station.

  • @summoner1451
    @summoner1451 Жыл бұрын

    What i really want is a cheap 4k 144hz monitor with good HDR that won't take away from my GPU budget. I know that i can't afford a GPU that would allow me to game at 4K. Best i can get is most likely going to be a mid range AMD card from their next gen release when ever they plan to release them. The thing is that i use my PC for all my media consumption though. I don't own a TV. So watch Movies, TV, KZread etc on my monitor. Since most content is moving to 4K, it would make sense to move to 4K as well. At the same time though. I don't wanna pay $1000 to get decent HDR performance and would most likely have to turn the games down to 1440p on the monitor anyway to get decent frame rates with the GPU that i plan on getting in the future.

  • @Yellowswift3
    @Yellowswift3 Жыл бұрын

    I went from a 27" 144Hz TN (very good for a TN panel to be fair - Dell S2716DG) to a 32" 1440p 170Hz IPS (Acer XB323U GP) about 18 months ago, and more recently I switched to another 32" 1440p 240HZ IPS (Gigabyte FI32Q-X) due to the Acer unit having terrible scan line issues. I thought the extra screen real estate would be enough (or significantly better) for having multiple windows open when creating content/learning new skills and doing work, however, I now wish I had upped to at least an ultrawide screen in size/resolution, though, of course, the graphics horsepower required is more significant, especially in scenarios where FSR or DLSS are not available. Having to Minimise a window while watching something in order to make an adjustment say when learning something new, e.g. when using some design software, becomes tiresome very fast. That is where another 32" screen or ultrawide/4K monitor would be ideal. As for the picture/gaming quality when currently using a 32" 1440p screen, however, I find that to be very good.

  • @KLiNoTweet

    @KLiNoTweet

    Жыл бұрын

    I use the same Dell, still a good monitor. I wait till 4k 144hz or more are available and affordable. 😊

  • @mrpeeng9503
    @mrpeeng9503 Жыл бұрын

    I've had my B7 OLED from 2016 and i've watched extended hours of sports and news channels. I've never once had an issue with burn in. There were also reports on r ratings that showed you would have to leave a static image on screen for over a week before any noticeable signs of burn in. I know for my version of the TV had pixel shifting and some other safety measure built in and this was over 6 years ago. Are you telling me that in all those years, there hasn't been more refining to prevent possible burn in?

  • @GingerRuss75
    @GingerRuss75 Жыл бұрын

    Tims been lackin, get that stache growing!

  • @Skylancer727
    @Skylancer727 Жыл бұрын

    Personally I even bought the fancy PG27UQ, the first Nvidia G Sync Ultimate display, for the ridiculous $1,200 it was on sale. It even came with the factory calibration paper and everything, and I immediately went into the settings, turned on the wide color gamut, HDR brightness in SDR content, and punched up the contrast. I personally think color calibration looks ugly and drab. There's a reason people always bought the Samsung over LG displays at the store. Yeah LG is more color accurate, but Samsung's vivid mode just looks so much better. Plus personally I actually prefer the SDR with HDR brightness over true HDR. It means I can have the dynamic range with colors how I want them. That's what I wanted in the first place. Only thing you lose is the rare times games actually support 10 bit color. Otherwise I've honestly noticed that the fake HDR looks more accurate to what it should than real HDR. An example being Final Fantasy 7 Remake the menus are all grey in HDR which they shouldn't be. Every Final Fantasy game shares the exact same deep blue menus and turning HDR off fixes it yet I don't lose the contrast. Some games like Forza Horizon 4 honestly looked more crushed with HDR on with the entire image dimming making the whole image just look bland.

  • @grammy2838
    @grammy2838 Жыл бұрын

    Regarding the "where will monitors go in the future?" discussion I think a really obvious direction is improving the housing and form factor. Maybe in 5 years we'll get desktop monitors which have no bezels and are as thin as laptop lids. Monitors are still clunky plastic monstrosities and there's tons of room for improvement.

  • @SuperYtc1

    @SuperYtc1

    Жыл бұрын

    Monstrosities. 😂

  • @christophervanzetta

    @christophervanzetta

    Жыл бұрын

    Imagine just a thin panel with no bulk 😮

  • @uhurunuru6609
    @uhurunuru6609 Жыл бұрын

    As someone that runs three 1440p Monitors, one bought [2021-07-07] ASUS ROG Swift PG329Q 32” Fast IPS, 1440p @ 175 Hz OC, VRR: 50-175Hz FreeSync+G-Sync Compatible The others two bought [2013-04-03] Dell U2711 A12 - 27” IPS, 1440p @ 60Hz, even for a main video gaming monitor, I'm extremely wary of OLED because of burn in, and £1000+ cost In Black Friday sales, I passed standby power negated at purchase by a master plug extension switching off all with my PC + Cooler Master Tempest GP27Q not sold in EU yet, if ever? Standby was a factor for 2011 Samsung TV, went with LG G2 55'' 4K, 40% off £1,400, over LG C2 55" 17% off £1,080, so I will see how good OLED is that way before deciding on a monitor.

  • @dustm4664
    @dustm4664 Жыл бұрын

    I bought rog 27in 2k 270hz monitor during black friday. I just want a smooth game experience. Maybe I will get another 32in 4k monitor in the future for static content and productivity.

  • @alvinxsingh
    @alvinxsingh Жыл бұрын

    Hope you guys get the LG 240hz oled before it comes out because I'm going to preorder

  • @Overonator
    @Overonator Жыл бұрын

    What's a low cost monitor calibration hardware that for a use case where I want to calibrate like maybe twice a year?

  • @brett20000000009
    @brett20000000009 Жыл бұрын

    "Difference between each frame" isn't a good way to explain sample and hold blur. It's all about the frame/pixel visibility time in milliseconds, that's exactly what mprt is. on sample and hold mprt = frametime in ms blur reduction tech like backlight strobing or bfi is reducing frame visibility time without having to increase framerate+refreshrate.

  • @BlackJesus8463
    @BlackJesus8463 Жыл бұрын

    DWF is $900 on Amazon right now.

  • @smudlicko
    @smudlicko Жыл бұрын

    Great content…HDR is years old thing and yet still important Yeah…buy nice or buy twice 😂

  • @h4x0rz32
    @h4x0rz32 Жыл бұрын

    where do i buy hardware unboxed gear? like mouse pads, having a hard time finding the store

  • @shiraz1736
    @shiraz1736 Жыл бұрын

    Are the handlebars coming back?

  • @MsD0V3R
    @MsD0V3R Жыл бұрын

    i wans't knowing the refresh compliance stuff, how to know the value i can't find it on my monitors

  • @skykingusa
    @skykingusa Жыл бұрын

    Steve, I'd love to hear more about your background (education, work experience, personal life - family, married, etc.). It sure seems like you know a lot about monitor technologies - I'm just wondering who you are and where you come from. Thanks!

  • @Rainquack
    @Rainquack Жыл бұрын

    The calibration discussion always feels so weird to me. I have a Omen 25 which completely messes up colours when switched to its FreeSync mode, which feels irreversible thru calibration, yet I've never seen any mention of that and I feel like ICC profiles won't fix general colour reproduction across the board anyways.

  • @eltripaseca4514
    @eltripaseca4514 Жыл бұрын

    Hey, just wanted to ask your recommendation for this build. Rtx 4090, i913k, 32 corsair dominator, 2tb m2 black sn850x. Asus prime z790 a mobo. Looking for a good 4k monitor less than around 800 or 900. Has to be flat and 32 or 27 inc

  • @allgot1
    @allgot1 Жыл бұрын

    I've been using an ASUS PG35VQ for the past 2.5 years, recently ASUS & LG announced OLED 240hz monitors and I've been thinking switching back to 16:9 because I mainly play competitive games like CS:GO and Valorant. Do you think I would be dissapointed by the HDR experience on OLED coming from an HDR 1000 monitor?

  • @FJaypewpew
    @FJaypewpew Жыл бұрын

    Got a 42 oled Unfortunately that means unless it’s about high refresh for under maybe 600 dollars, I’m probably going to watch, to see what could be an alternate monitor, I was planning on this being my tv within 5 years but ultimately, it’s my primary screen I’ll replace it when something better comes along at a similar price

  • @FJaypewpew

    @FJaypewpew

    Жыл бұрын

    Actually my 600 dollars comment really applies to if regress from 4K to something lower I don’t expect 4K oled to be cheaper in the next couple of years, but yes I’m the next 5 I will expect this to be out classed, Samsung already did it it seems But I still got this because, oled legooooo

  • @darrooxx
    @darrooxx Жыл бұрын

    I have Gigabyte 2k monitor (G27Q) and the sRGB out of the box is gray and braun , how can i change the sRGB settings. ??

  • @wombraider6448
    @wombraider64489 ай бұрын

    I’m torn between what to get for a monitor. After watching this video I sorta fit both categories. I play single player games and competitive fps games a lot, and I spend a lot of time watching movies/tv on it as well. Should I get 1440p 240hz or 4K 144hz?

  • @zafert85
    @zafert85 Жыл бұрын

    Hey, could you please talk about gaming monitors and eye strain. No one talks about it. Could you maybe make a list of gaming monitors that are easy on the eyes? Would really be appreciated.