Good stuff as usual. Interesting fact: 90% of all nervous system input is visual. Driving more input into the non-dominant eye shores up the opposite cortex and for a lot of people with a history of concussion/ PTSD stuff can actually improve the function of their brain. Because of science. Of course when it's time to slay go back to dominant eye. Because of freedom.

@KineticConsulting

3 жыл бұрын

Good to know. Thanks

@alfredknubble1958

3 жыл бұрын

That's not really true but okie dokie buddy. I guess blind people are just husks with 10% of their nervous systems active at any given time lolol.

@JordanVezinaactual

3 жыл бұрын

@@alfredknubble1958 No, they bring up other systems to compensate. You can find cool videos of blind guys riding bikes who have increased their hearing to match the lost vision. If you actually want to understand this and aren't just doing tequila shots while cruising youtube let me know and I'll send you some neuroscience articles from Pubmed. But you have to promise to actually read them.

@JordanVezinaactual

3 жыл бұрын

Check that. This is ground level neuroscience. No one is debating that the visual system takes up this much neural input. The internet is making my ass tired.

@alfredknubble1958

3 жыл бұрын

@@JordanVezinaactual That is an old wives tale. Blind peoples senses are the same as anyone else. "Ground level neuroscience" is apparently citing old kung fu movies about blind masters with heightened sense of smell and hearing ololol.

These are the videos that people should be making, thank you

@The_John_Galt

3 жыл бұрын

This

@KineticConsulting

3 жыл бұрын

I'm a teacher and a student. Not a KZreadr. So this is the content you will get from me man.

Take his classes yall. Worth it.

I was blessed to have a friend find me a gently used blemless Elbit Gen 3 thin filmed green phos PVS-14 for $1950 shipped. Low Light Innovations makes a terrific "white" filter that essentially mimics white phos in appearance with limited light transmission loss for only $25. To save money on the mount, he suggested an "Evolution Gear L4G24 NVG Mount Perfect Replica" for only $85 shipped instead of the $465 for the real one, and the quality is phenomenal. I also picked up a used Wilcox AN/PVS-14 Arm for $150 shipped down from the original $229 price. Botach has a Longfri Level IIIA ballistic helmet for only $199 that is around 3 pounds, good quality for the price and there are lots of ballistic test videos on them. I also went with the FCS AMP Headset that is a fully functioning Replica of the Ops Core AMP for only $175 shipped down from $999 for the real one. I plan on running a Disco 32 PTT with them to get my Comms squared away. Although all of this stuff is still expensive, there are ways of making NVGs and Comms realistically affordable instead of an unobtainable pipe dream. I highly encourage yourself and others to do the same. I was able to have just as functional of a setup for a little more than $2,500 that would have been $7,500+ if I had gone "Gucci" on everything.

I’m RH but left eye dominant. Just got my my PVS-14 set up so I’ll have to experiment both sides. Thanks for the video.

Thank you for the info. I just picked up an l3 white phosphorus and I’m loving life…

Thanks that was perfectly explained and things are much clearer for me now. Totally forgot parallax was a thing.

This is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks a ton!!

Thanks for all the great info! Quality videos!

I own the same setup you have on. its an awesome setup. great review..

I learned that squinting your dominant eye enough, transfers your dominance to the other eye.

More great content! The G24 works good for my 14s for now and I'm saving for duals but may pick up a Norotos and run it for now.

I bump into this right after ordering my first PVS 14

@jonaspittman6059

3 жыл бұрын

same dude! Can't wait for it!

@alexhdz512

3 жыл бұрын

@@jonaspittman6059 😎

Always excellent info man, thanks!

We are spoiled being able to get so much NV knowledge for free. Great videos on here

@KineticConsulting

3 жыл бұрын

You guys really are spoiled lol

Thank you for your wonderfully made videos. God bless you :)

In late 89' we started with red dots... IPSC and 3 gun. Before when shooting " irons " being left handed, right eye dominant for pistol, rifle, shotgun we used an antiquated ( In an advanced class with J. Michael Plaxco ) " transparent scotch tape patch " to train the non-dom eye before ... it didn't occlude, rather it " shaded " perfect vision (strength & picture) on the dominant eye, enough that it was visible, but just enough to allow the brain & the non-dom eye to become dominant by strengthening and the brain "seeing " perfect now... lol.. works today, 32 years later. Sorry for the length, enjoyed the video and the trip down memory lane. KUDO'S brother! Seth

@Wabaanimkii

2 жыл бұрын

I read, and then re-read your comment to make sure I understood it. Sounds like an awesome idea, and I want to try it. thanks!

@sethhughes2163

2 жыл бұрын

I forgot to add that after about 1000 rounds a week for a committed one year. One to two, sometimes three Oklahoma matches a month... you could shoot 5 matches a month Saturday & Sunday...) Effectively, my ND eye took over at around nine months... and that's when everything went waaaaay faster. Had the pleasure to start seeing up to 25yd bullets heading to the targets and seeing the cardboard IPSC targets tear as the bullets pierced them! Tachypsychia... was another result during intense training...( time appears to slow down, allowing you to put the pedal to the floor) the difference was that even though stress induced, it was almost controllable. .. around 20 to 25% maybe... research agrees with my claim... the window was very abbreviated, but when you hit it... it was that feeling AND result that there was no higher pinnacle. No B.S. ... have a great day when you shoot brother! Seth

@Wabaanimkii

2 жыл бұрын

@@sethhughes2163 I know the time stretch feeling. I havent been able to hit it often while gun blastin' but I've felt it several times while saber fencing and its great. thanks again. cheers friend.

@sethhughes2163

Жыл бұрын

@@Wabaanimkii You bet!

Thanks. As a poor that can't fund a dual tube, this was very helpful.

I got nvg norotos shroud, norotos lowering arm, and j arm used all usgi surplus, it's a little rattley, but it works I just used the cats eye band to put tension on my lowering arm, and used 550 cord for my pvs14, and extra tether as just in case, I prefer when shooting with nods I like the non passive aiming with ir laser, normally don't prefer binos because I like one eye under nods, and one eye which is gonna be my non dominant eye free. I see what you are saying train both, which is good idea

great video!

Great info!!!

Good video man. A lot of good info I would have liked to know before I spent all kinds of money with trial and error. My only recommendation is either use a mic on your body or adjust the volume when editing because the sound is pretty low. Thanks for the vid man!

To this day over 21 years now, I still close my left eye before leaving a bright room to a dark one. My right shooter side is still trained to follow the left in darkness.

thanks for sharing and thanks for caring. when you get a chance to talk to Chuck P on this subject I'd love to be there to see it. hope to see you in class in 2021 if things go right.

I get that w hardcore iron guys switching to red dot over vision probs,shootin irons is getting harder as im gettin older for sure even w glasses,great stuff ty

Solid info 🤙

"if you don't like either, go to duals.." 🤣🤣🤣

Any plans to make a video that demonstrates a full kit/weapon set up from the ground up to work with a NVG set up? If not, you should!

Very instructional

Great video, as usual. Would you ever consider making a video on the PVS-18? I cannot find a single video on it.

@KineticConsulting

3 жыл бұрын

If I had a Pvs18 I would.

I used offset eye typically used white light when clearing buildings they already new we where there.

Dude I’ve been having accuracy issues since I’ve been shooting and it’s only been with red dots or holos shooting both eyes open and this totally helps I’ll try out some of these things you are talking about and I bet this is what it has always been I just thought my eyes didnt line up like others but I think I’ve just been favoring my left eye(dominant eye) when shooting both eyes open even tho I shoot righty. I’ve never had issues with irons or scopes so this has to be a big factor. Thanks no one has explained this to me other than just telling me to shoot more often both eyes and “you’ll get used to it” if I can pin point the actual reason I can work on them better

@Heywoodthepeckerwood

2 жыл бұрын

My #3 son is cross eye dominant and when I was teaching him archery is when we finally figured it out. Since we learned this he as become the best shot out of my four sons. Tip with a handgun, if you are cross eye dominant, try canting the pistol at 45°. You can do this with a rifle as well but you may need a taller mount for your red dot.

@yzhou05

2 жыл бұрын

Canting pistol works day or night/NODs. Rifles with red dots can work with either eye during the day, but scopes not so much, especially under NODs. I find I either have to shoot rifles w/ non-dominant eye to put optic under dominant eye, or switch monocular to the non-dominant eye if I want to shoot passively. For me picking up the red dot on a pistol under monoNODs w/ my non-dominant eye is easy, probably because it takes over as the dominant eye. I do like the option of switching to white light fast (monocular on “non-shooting eye”, I shoot rifles both left and right), but not sure how to get the brightness of the optic to then be appropriate for brighter condition. I imagine this problem is still there with duals: if the dot is set for NOD use, it would be way too dim to see under white light, and vice versa… @KineticConsulting

Very informative video, thank you!

I don't know why I'm watching videos reviewing products that I'll never be able to afford.

@Vinnytwotime

Жыл бұрын

I saved $400 a month from not eating out. Took 10 months and now I just ordered a TNVC 14 gen 3 WP L3 tube. You'll get there bro.

First time here good video.

what ever eye you look through the scope with.

Oh jesus has answered my prayers

@jabr991

3 жыл бұрын

*mocha jesus

@KineticConsulting

3 жыл бұрын

@@jabr991 don't put me in that category lol

Thanks for the educational video. I am definitely going to sign up for one of your classes. If I buy my own helmet and parts but don't have the NVG yet, can I just rent the PVS14? Do you also rent binos too? Just to be clear, which side should the PVS-14 go on, if I am cross-eyed dominant (left), when shooting pistol and carbine primarily with my right hand? It seems like the PVS14 would go on my right side (non dominant) for pistol, since I can continue using my iron sight. (I have not switched to red dot yet, since I want to dedicate a Glock-19 for that, modify it through Agency Arms, but parts are scarce still.) For carbine, it sounds like I would wear the PVS14 on the right side still, since I would not be using my red dot instead relying on the IR laser. I recently bought the ATPIAL-C, gradually accumulating the components for night vision, as I save up and as they become available. This does raise an interesting question though: switch shoulders using an INV would be as cumbersome as trying to do so with a magnifier flipped off to the side...? It would seem like binos would be easier overall, albeit much more expensive....

@KineticConsulting

3 жыл бұрын

Yup, I have both to rent for my classes. As for which eye you will have to try both and see what suits you best. You can "what if" all the scenarios in the world and find a downside to almost anything. Look at what you mainly use NV for and set yourself up best to perform those.

This is my biggest question about night vision and cqb?? Being quiet enough for someone to not know where you are and also being in a pitch black environment… why would it be not as effective to go with white light ? Is it because they may know where you are but not exactly where you are and white light can give away your signature rather quickly ? Is that the only reason though I do a huge benefit to to being able to see in the woods or across a field and see thing might not otherwise see but in Cbq ? Is stealth that realists and or the true key is it as I would expect that speed and precision are most important? I guess part understanding what I’m asking about is what is then negative to night vision verses just going without it

@RunningWithSauce

Жыл бұрын

I take nightly walks with my Nods. When its very dark out, with little light pollution from city lights but is moonlit can see out a few hundred yards easily with no supplemental illumination. Last night on a trail in the woods I stepped off trail as 3 people approached from 200 yards out. It took them until about 10 feet to notice me. Two dudes and their mom out for a 10pm stroll in a wooded park. With a focused IR I could have lit them up way farther out and noticed their location. As far as use if needing to engage if they were an enemy force, I could theoretically step into the woods and ambush if that was not a stroll and instead actual interception of a patrol who had no Night vision. Likely they'd be using white light which of course would see you. The key is they likely wouldn't see you at distance before you see them and you could find cover and drop on them, etc. Its not likely someone is going to be using a high powered white light and catch you out from distance if you already know they are there and can move when needed. If you have nods go for walks in the woods carefully. You'll note if you can remain quiet without bustin sticks and crashing leaves, in very dark woods you'll be able to sneak up on quite a few animals, My favorite moment was in a poorly lit park getting the jump on a family of raccoons raiding a garbage. As far as not knowing where you are... people need to be careful with that. Theres a perception that because you yourself have NVGs that nobody can you see you in the dark in CQB. This isn't true. The human eye adjusts to the dark very well and often as people are backlit by small lights in rooms etc, their movement can be seen. Last is NVGs do not work in pitch black without supplemental IR illumination. For breaching - your guess is correct, you need the element of surprise for sure AND you want to cut power so the lights don't come on. Lots to consider there. Someone for sure could hear you, suspect you coming etc and light the place up with a surefire and easily get PID. Its not a superpower and requires a lot of tactic and training to be effective.

Yo can you do a video on comparing red dot sights through NV (passive aiming). Light transmission etc.

@KineticConsulting

3 жыл бұрын

I can try

How come you don’t discuss the INVG with the Wilcox Jarm? I have used that same setup in the past when I used a 14 and really liked that it gives both benefits of having the stowing of the INVG and ability to rapidly flip over each eye to maintain passive capability regardless of which shoulder shooting off of

@KineticConsulting

3 жыл бұрын

Truthfully, I forgot. I just posted a short video on Instagram about it. instagram.com/p/CLr_poXnJ4S/?igshid=1vzf1k9robzj4

I’m left eye dominant and right handed, so I’ve had to adjust my head angle to get a better sight picture with my left eye for handguns and I partially close my left eye to cause my right eye to focus in when I shoot rifles. I’m still trying to figure out which eye to run a PVS14 on but I’ll probably go with non-dominant/right eye.

@ILoveMortarHED

6 ай бұрын

Did you figure out what you prefer? I'm in the same boat and just ordered a PVS-14

@Joe_Friday

Ай бұрын

I'm thinking of trying mine on my right eye as I'm right handed but I'm left eye dominant. What did you figure out?

@Joe_Friday

Ай бұрын

​@@ILoveMortarHEDI'm thinking of trying mine on my right eye as I'm right handed but I'm left eye dominant. What did you figure out?

@musicman1eanda

22 күн бұрын

I'm right handed and left eye dominant too dude. Just draw the handgun in front of your left eye and you'll be fine. You don't need to change your head angle.

I’m a right handed shooter and L eye dominant. Are you saying that if my 14 is lined up with my L eye, then passive IR laser shooting from R handed, I should expect to struggle with my aiming due to parallax? I really prefer to keep a 14 on my L eye so that if the lights come on I can just switch to red dot shooting as normal primarily using my R eye

@christoperdevore3617

2 жыл бұрын

Laser is active aiming. Your rds is passive. Your setup is fine unless you try to use your rds under your nods.

How well does a PVS14 work for passive use through a quality optic like a T2/Eotech/etc. vs binos, where you have an un-occluded tube also gathering light? Is it really a big difference, or nah? Further explanation? Thanks a ton for your videos!!!

@KineticConsulting

3 жыл бұрын

Works just fine but there is an advantage of having the binos in certain environments/light

@talltale9760

3 жыл бұрын

@@KineticConsulting would you say binos stretch their legs the most indoors but not so much outside?

Hey Jon, great video as usual, which brand of PVS14 would you recommend?

@KineticConsulting

3 жыл бұрын

I use a L3 filmless WP Pvs14

Got any tips for adjusting a chin strap properly? I've never had my TW strap fit me super well. Not sure if it's just something I should get used to or if I'm missing something.

@KineticConsulting

3 жыл бұрын

I'll make a video on it. Thanks

i have a situation. ive been wanting to get into night vision. but im having the same issue i had when i wanted to get into scoped rifles. i am cross eye dominant. and i dont know which eye i should locate the nvg on any ideas? also im starting to wonder if i am truly cross eye dominant. because my issue is truly that i cant independently close my left eye. i can for the right. ive used the eye patch or blindfold trick (where you blind one eye with an eye patch) and i was able to focus and shoot great with both eyes. but when i try to shoot normal i get the cross eye dominance issue again. any suggestion.

@KineticConsulting

3 жыл бұрын

I've seen it once before. I suggest trying both sides and see what works for you. Or duals

So if I get a 2nd PVS-14 of identical specifications I can bridge them and they will function fine right?. I just have to get them " culminated " from what I heard?.

@KineticConsulting

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, culminating would be a "if necessary"

@yakivpopavich

3 жыл бұрын

@@KineticConsulting Appreciate it, I have one PVS-14 so far and once I am more financially stable I'm considering buying a second identical one with the same intensifier so I can pair them.

@nalinification

2 жыл бұрын

Collimate.... not culminate..

What are your thoughts on running a weapon mounted thermal scope and a single PVS14 on your non dominant eye?

@KineticConsulting

Жыл бұрын

I can see it as a solid way to hunt certain critters

Really appreciate the info John, have a pvs14 on the way and have been trying to soak up as much info as possible. Would it be possible to run the INVG hyper mount with the Wilcox j-arm? Thanks again.

@KineticConsulting

3 жыл бұрын

You can. Just did a video on Instagram about it. instagram.com/p/CLr_poXnJ4S/?igshid=1vzf1k9robzj4

@duvaldrummer

3 жыл бұрын

@@KineticConsulting thanks bro, just checked it out 🙏🏻

Can you attach the Wilcox J Arm to that? I swear I've seen something like that on the Norotos and they were switching from eye to eye like the J Arm. Can anyone confirm this or am I crazy?

@KineticConsulting

3 жыл бұрын

Yup. You probably saw it on my Instagram.

@AaaaandYerDhem

3 жыл бұрын

@@KineticConsulting Does it work well or is it sloppy?

@KineticConsulting

3 жыл бұрын

@@AaaaandYerDhem it works but I only have 1 sample size so I can't say it will for every single one.

What is your opinion of running a a pvs14 and a flir breach in a bino configuration

@KineticConsulting

3 жыл бұрын

Depends on what you're doing. I know some wild pig hunters that use that setup

I just got into the game with a PVS-14 and a standard Rhino Mount and USGI J-Arm. Do you recommend the Wilcox G24 and their J-Arm as the next upgrade? Thanks!

@KineticConsulting

3 жыл бұрын

I do. The rhino will work but isn't optimal

@LordNikku

3 жыл бұрын

@@KineticConsulting thanks!

Can you use the notorus invg, with a wilcox jarm instead of the notorus dual dove?

@KineticConsulting

2 ай бұрын

You can but there's no guarantee that all will work since they are different companies with different specs. Mine work together

Would it be realistic to piggyback mount a micro red dot above my lpvo and aim passively by canting the rifle in front of a tube over my non-dominant eye?

@KineticConsulting

3 жыл бұрын

You can but it depends on your scope and mount options. Check out the video I did on offset red dots.

@DaveSmith-cp5kj

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I use that setup and many other people do as well. You don't actually have to cant the rifle in front of the tube because you will have so much elevation (in fact it is specifically advised not to as the sight height offset will exaggerate your POI shift). Zero the red dot parallel with the scope POA so the POI will always be below the red dot which is easy to remember since that is our natural instinct when shooting with rifles at close range anyways.

Cool video. What is your experience with long term use of monocular and even binocular NV devices? No eye issues? Is the effect similar to looking at a computer screen for extended time? Thanks for the content.

@KineticConsulting

3 жыл бұрын

With a 14, there are a few different things that can happen. I prefer the dual system for less fatigue on the eyes and some other stuff. I think it's similar to the fatigue on a computer but definitely different.

@millerj.8448

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you. We got a unit to use at work and I tried it out scanning across fields at night and tried walking while looking through the mono and it was strange to the least. Love the added capability to see at night lol Ill be back to this channel.

@talltale9760

3 жыл бұрын

@@millerj.8448 most important thing is to make sure your diopter is set right. Makes a world of difference for eye fatigue

@millerj.8448

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the reply

@DaveSmith-cp5kj

2 жыл бұрын

It's closer to looking through a binoculars or spotting scope at day for a long period of time. Also most have a gain adjustment which lets you adjust the brightness settings. Although even on max brightness it isn't as bad as a computer screen.

Quick question, about eye dominance. I've tried several ways to determine it but I just can't seem to. Even with your method for me there is always shift when I keep both eyes open and close my left its slightly to the left and when I close the right it's also slightly to the right. I've used both eyes open as well as either eye closed to shoot and still had no issues. But this whole dominance thing just confuses me occasionally when it comes up in discussions.

@KineticConsulting

Жыл бұрын

When you point at something small on the wall, close an eye and see which one shows the finger on the object and which which one doesn't. The one that does is your Dom eye. There is such thing as both being equally dominate. If that's the case you may want to speak to an optometrist about it since I'm not a doctor.

@Dominik189

Жыл бұрын

@@KineticConsulting yeah both show it just slightly off and if I do try to focus even just a little I can do both. I've even had times when I can willingly switch somehow. I've been to an ophthalmology specialist for it, but they can't do much about it.

@KineticConsulting

Жыл бұрын

@@Dominik189 on the brightside it sounds like if you're able to switch, then just choose one and train it.

@Dominik189

Жыл бұрын

@@KineticConsulting yeah, that would be awesome if I could do it reliably. But it only occasionally works out.

If only I could afford a PVS 14 :(

@KineticConsulting

3 жыл бұрын

You create your own destiny...

@musicman1eanda

3 жыл бұрын

@@KineticConsulting My destiny is shared. I'm in the type of situation where I actually could save up the money within a year, but my wife would never be on board with spending that type of money on night vision. So I potentially could "afford it", but it's not my decision alone to make. Until Sionyx comes up with a reliable and cheap digital set I'm likely SOL.

@jyp4697

3 жыл бұрын

@@musicman1eanda Get a new wife (: hahaha

@alfredknubble1958

3 жыл бұрын

@@musicman1eanda You should probably take the "Man" part out of your username if your wife is deciding how you spend your money.

@tuongtran4862

3 жыл бұрын

@@musicman1eanda Also, start making your own coffee if you’re drinking coffee at a shop. Assuming that you are drinking it

Can't you just pivot the invg from one eye to another in a pinch without switching the dovetail?

@KineticConsulting

3 жыл бұрын

Nope

I went to use my cat crap for the first time , it's separated, is it still good to use ?

@KineticConsulting

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, just mix it.

@nck4888

Жыл бұрын

@@KineticConsulting thanks man, just had to check

Would you still experience parallax with an Eotech using the "occluded eye" method.

@KineticConsulting

3 жыл бұрын

Potentially

@AmazonWebService98

3 жыл бұрын

@@KineticConsulting can you make a vid on some good quality optics you recommend for shooting under nods ? I'm running a cz bren 2

@DaveSmith-cp5kj

2 жыл бұрын

@@AmazonWebService98 If he hasn't answered you yet via PM, you want clear glass (minimal glass tint) and NV setting in order to dim the reticle enough to see the target beyond your POA (not really necessary at close range under 50 yards though, especially if you are shooting under IR illumination in which case the dot has to be almost visible brightness in order to not be washed out). Aimpoint micro is best if you care about weight(buy used), any Eotech is best if you want a large window. However in truth most chinese red dots that are only $20 also work well, as they tend to have settings on the lower end of visible brightness which are sufficient for shooting under IR illumination, and don't washout the image without. The key issue is they have very low battery life of only 3 days unless you get something like a holosun. You want it mounted high and forward (I just mount the red dot on top of a scope, which also serves as an assist in daytime as I find target with my red dot and can engage, but if I think I may have to apply holdovers I just drop my head down and the target is right in the scope FOV (zero the red dot parallel to the scope zero, so POI will always be below the red dot and not some funky over under bs), or use rail risers stacked on top of each other, a rail mount adapter on an A2 carry handle, or gucci stuff like the Unity micro riser. Depending on this setup, you might choose a micro red dot, or a large one like a Eotech for the larger window so you don't have to get your monocular fully behind the gun to see your POA. Personally I stick with micro because again, I mount them on top of a scope. I have tried an eotech and while it is beginner friendly, if you plan to regularly use and train with your NVD setup like you should, you will find this advantage is negligible unless you really need to be able to cowitness iron sights with the naked eye (larger window allows the Eotech to use a smaller riser than a micro and still be night vision ready)

Second shout out to green line and Don. 👍🏻👍🏻 you don’t know what you don’t know.

Trying to get into the night game, and for now, financially, I'm gonna have to stick with a PVS-14. That said, do you have experience with ATN PVS-14s? I know lots of people run L3 or TNVC built units, but I have a pending deal with a ATN unit and cant find many professional opinions on it.

@KineticConsulting

3 жыл бұрын

Atn has commercial specs from what I remember. I only trust tnvc with my night vision

@evilcoco321

3 жыл бұрын

I have an ATN "nvm14" gen 2+ for roughly $1,300 on sale. It's ok, spotted an owl @200 yards with a good IR illuminator. I've never used anything else though. mounting ATN pvs14s requires a JDAM adapter for a helmet. Remember night vision is EXPENSIVE, plan of action would be get the cheaper ATN gen2+ -> milsurp eBay helmet+mounting -> russian PERST laser and you're gtg. Eventually you could sell the gen 2 tube and upgrade to gen 3

@The_Lundy

3 жыл бұрын

@@evilcoco321 Thanks for the reply. Thankfully the one I have a lead on is a Gen 3.

@dustyrhodes1655

3 жыл бұрын

So I am brand new to NV and was given a 10 year old(unused though) ATN NVM14-3 for free. It has worked great so far but I'm not a operator. The complaints I see about ATNnis their customer service sucks and almost non existent. I've also read there is no consistency on what components they use. My opinion is skewed because mine was free but if the price is really good jump on them. If the price is only a few hundred from what you could get from say TNVC I'd say wait.

@DaveSmith-cp5kj

3 жыл бұрын

@@evilcoco321 Dang for $1,300 even for a gen 2 unit that is a good deal (unless zone 1 blemished) if that was in the last two years. Let me know if you are ever interested in selling it for the 1 k range.

Coming to NJ/NY area anytime?

@KineticConsulting

3 жыл бұрын

Probably not. PA is more realistic due to the laws.

If you are a regular soldier with an acog/regular height m68 and pvs14, the non dominant side is the way to go.

@danielney6

Жыл бұрын

Why

@not_your_business666

Жыл бұрын

@@danielney6 because the gear you get in most conventional combat units is nearly useless for passive aiming and you can get in trouble for not using your peq15 while shooting under nods. So you are better off not ruining your dominant eye's night vision by NVG. Unfortunately the larp stuff you see on youtube is mostly being done by less than 1% of the military. On the bright side if we end up fighting russians exposing yourself with IR laser won't be a huge deal. Even some of better nato troops are poorly trained on night combat comparing to americans, let alone our potential adversaries who's night capabilities range from limited to non existent.

@nickadkins7765

11 ай бұрын

​@@not_your_business666 I get it if you're in the military. There are limitations to what you can or can't do. However, as a civilian I don't agree with that philosophy. Forget an ACOG. Run an eotech or a T2 with a 3x magnifier and you're good for close range and around 300ish yards pretty easily. Additionally I won't get in trouble for passively aiming and not using IR illumination as a civilian, and as he explained in the video the parallax would be a non issue either while using your dominant eye.

@not_your_business666

11 ай бұрын

@@nickadkins7765 Yea for sure. I am not trying to say that passive aiming is not viable.

@nickadkins7765

11 ай бұрын

@@not_your_business666 I mean even above the passive aiming aspect....The NVG on your dominant eye eliminates parallax while using a LAM under IR active aiming as well. Whereas you'd have parallax using a LAM under IR with the NVG on non dominant side.

what mount are you wearing though?

@KineticConsulting

Жыл бұрын

Norotos invg

What is that helmet ?

@crunchyknees3622

2 жыл бұрын

Ops-core SF

I use a G24 and Wilcox J-arm. Used to switch between eyes. But it took me about a week to determine which eye I wanted to use. And it ultimately came down to which eye is my dominant eye when shooting with a pistol. When the red dot optic comes up to my dominant eye (my right) im making hits just as accurate and just as fast as during the day. That was a deal breaker for me when using my left eye. Kept trying to find the dot and losing time. Also, passive aiming on my rifles is pretty easy with a lower 1/3 mount and the PVS14 doesn't get in the way of the optic if its mounted as far forward on the upper before the handguard. Hope this helps someone who has the same issues.

@rdsmith334

3 жыл бұрын

I struggle with passive on a 1/3 mount, and can't get consistent with it, much less fast. For me, an easy (cheap) fix was trying a dot mounted on top of a carry handle. Super easy passive aiming.

@pin_high

3 жыл бұрын

@@rdsmith334 interesting! It took some reps getting used to the 1/3. I thought experimenting with a 1.93 or 2.26 but I wanted to be able to keep in line with all my setups and adding 5 1.93’s to the collection wasn’t financially attractive.

@rdsmith334

3 жыл бұрын

@@pin_high same here. The financial issues of switching risers over is daunting. Plus holdovers, etc. But I would suggest throwing a carry handle on top, and a chinesium carry handle pic rail, just to try it out. I don’t know what riser height that combo equates to though. But now that I’ve got a decent handle on passive (with this setup), I need to give lower 1/3 another try.

What if one eye doesn’t dominate?

@KineticConsulting

3 жыл бұрын

Then try both and see which you rather. You will probably go towards the dominant hand side.

Being cross dominant is weird man. I've practiced shooting pistols left handed and rifles right handed to the point where my eye dominance depends on what finger I point with

@jawknee2

3 жыл бұрын

Yup

@KineticConsulting

3 жыл бұрын

Yup. There are some tricks I try to show people but it all comes down to practice man. Put in the work

@DaveSmith-cp5kj

3 жыл бұрын

@@KineticConsulting Yup. For anyone else having issues with eye dominance, you can change it. I used to be right eye dominant but the first time I did airsoft I realized how important it was to be able to switch shoulders to optimize use of cover. What I did was wink my dominant eye (if you can't wink, hold down the lid with your finger and tense your face until you isolate the muscle to keep the lid closed. "Smirking" can help until you learn to better isolate the eyelid) occasionally throughout the day and after about a week you will have more favoritism to the other eye. Then switch it back. Do this for about a month and then both eyes will stabilize to near equal dominance. Now I can shoot irons on handgun from either shoulder as crisp as day, and with a monocular setup I can mentally snap instantly from visible light spectrum to IR on command without any squinting or manipulating the mount. You will get a massive headache the first month you train this though. You will be able to see past close range objects easier than normal and that will really mess with your spatial awareness for a short period of time until your brain stops being drunk.

anybody knows what pvs14 bridge he used in the video ?

@KineticConsulting

3 жыл бұрын

Dude, I say it in the video

@elephantcheeze

3 жыл бұрын

@@KineticConsulting hahaha there's always one. Great video man.

*tuns off after every step* *has to continuously slap the side of it to turn it back on* *cant tell if the blob is a Bush or the dude in front of me* *kinda scared to take a step in fear of being taken down by the hole monster* *nice stars bro* *”Laser beams”*

What would I do if I'm blind in one eye?

@KineticConsulting

Жыл бұрын

I'm sure you can figure that one out

@skillercruz5539

Жыл бұрын

@@KineticConsulting haha true but it definitely complicates things

@GoldenDuck0

Жыл бұрын

@@skillercruz5539 well that means you don’t have a need to pay so much for binos

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Left eye for NVG. I shoot right eye. I want dominant side ready for when lights come on.

@KineticConsulting

3 жыл бұрын

Go check out my light sensitivity video. Light coming on isn't a big deal man.

@SheepDogNumber6

3 жыл бұрын

@@KineticConsulting I'd rather be set just like most training reps I have done, when lights go on or need to use my sights instead of my laser.

@KineticConsulting

3 жыл бұрын

@@SheepDogNumber6 you can still aim through your optic man.

@SheepDogNumber6

3 жыл бұрын

@@KineticConsulting With a further forward reddot yes. I run a LPVO and it seems too much. Thanks for the responses and vids.

Well thats a no brainer. I can barely see out of my left eye.

Single hole mount rec?

@KineticConsulting

3 жыл бұрын

I don't know what that means

@Millspecmoron

3 жыл бұрын

Norotos universal

All seriousness, why not both?

@epapa737

2 жыл бұрын

Money and sometimes seeing the world as under ambiant light whether is shadows, the color or disorientation up to you but in that case I'll always go for noisefighters

Red dots are nice and all, but I still prefer irons. Sorry mac. I've tried them plenty of times, but I just simply prefer irons. Not knocking the red dots, I can see how people like them.

@antsanchez870

2 жыл бұрын

I have astigmatism, dots turn into lines for me so I prefer irons or an etched optic

@Chicano_pistolero

2 жыл бұрын

How do you aim at night? Not insulting just genuinely curious

@vhfgamer

2 жыл бұрын

@@Chicano_pistolero When you use a rifle enough times, and you have trained yourself, it will naturally settle into the correct shooting position when you shoulder it. That means the sights are already lined up. Coincidentally, this is the same concept sport clay shooters use, because shotguns have notoriously simple sights. So combine that with the flashlight you're probably using to see your target in the first place, and you're golden. If you're not using a flashlight, then how do you even see your target? If there is enough light to see your target, there's enough light to see your sights. If you're using a night vision optic, then obviously the regular iron sights don't apply.

@nobodyspecial1852

Жыл бұрын

They're good for when your eyes act up; irritation, fatigue or migraines. Bad lighting on irons is always an issue, I hate glare and I don't smoke my stuff either.

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don't be a poor and get duals?

@SpecOpsGear

2 жыл бұрын

*correction: i opted to get duals and be a poor forever. :/

@tazthedevil22

2 жыл бұрын

@@SpecOpsGear good one 🤣 having money is just like having a Mohawk. It's just a phase.

@SpecOpsGear

2 жыл бұрын

@@tazthedevil22 Me: making some progress on paying off nvg Also me: "have you seen thermal scopes?"

@tazthedevil22

2 жыл бұрын

@@SpecOpsGear never heard of those. After having a kid, my wife installed some kind of virus on Google. Every time I lookup something expensive my phone/pc crashes. 🤣

@Vinnytwotime

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, cause poor people can buy $4k PVS14.

I have to question someone spending the money for a PVS14 if they don't even know their eye dominance yet

@KineticConsulting

Жыл бұрын

I think you missed the point. It's not about their eye dominance it's about which one you prefer based off of what you're doing.

Neither, just bridge it and run duals. Problem solved

@KineticConsulting

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for adding value to the conversation

@kamraam1464

Жыл бұрын

"Neither, just spend another 4 grand and run duals" wow so simple and easy!