I feel like I can't hold it correctly. (yes, it's completely empty when I tried it in my apartment) I can't wait to try this at the range. Thanks for the tip, I'll definitely be working on it. 😎👍

@TacticalHyve

Жыл бұрын

Make sure to dry fire a lot before trying this live. Do not go live until you are comfortable and confident. Also, it helps to load only one round at a time for safety. In other words, insert a mag, rack one round, remove the mag, then execute the drill. But again, only go live when you are very comfortable with holding the pistol as demonstrated.

@brandonmullwray9924

Жыл бұрын

@@TacticalHyve Copy that. I recently bought a lasermax system to help improve my aim. I'm going to use it in tandem with your advice. 😁👍

@rudolfosuarez9470

Жыл бұрын

Good luck man. I have this same issue.

@mycaddigo

Жыл бұрын

Dude I hope it was unloaded

@gossettcd

Жыл бұрын

@@TacticalHyve Indeed. I completely missed this. Curious, maybe one hot round followed by a snap cap? In case the slide locking open has an impact. I am probably over thinking this. Great video!!!

I had a friend who was always a little high and to the left, but he was from California .....

@transcend3507

Жыл бұрын

Outstanding! 😀

@janfranceschi8458

Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣

@Rid_Of_Thee

Жыл бұрын

HA

@roundone7954

Жыл бұрын

Bro that was a great underestimated comment!

@Cocoflava

Жыл бұрын

🤣

In my experience as a former instructor this was generally the major problem with many shooters. This is an excellent exercise in learning to overcome it. You did a great job in explaining and presenting this training technique thank you.

@leonardjones9753

Жыл бұрын

So, don't secure the tool but hold it in some fashion as so that under recoil , you cannot control the tool ? I am sorry for those persons That think that this is of anything of use in any contact scenario ! Do not support improper handling of possible tools !

@mcm542

Жыл бұрын

@@leonardjones9753 Agree with you 100% re don’t do this drill live fire.

@davideterminidubbings

Жыл бұрын

Hi, can you please tell me which fingers have to make pressure in each hand? I read thumb and ring finger on left hand, right? And only thumb for right hand? Thanks

@swanben11

Жыл бұрын

@@leonardjones9753 He’s decreasing grip variables to isolate the technique of the trigger pull itself. No one is telling anyone to grip a firearm this way in normal circumstances. This is an exercise, not a combat grip.

@artstrutzenberg7197

10 ай бұрын

So I'm a new shooter---This exercise seem to play fast and loose with the safety principal of keeping your finger off the trigger until you are ready to shoot? Would this be something that range masters might take exception to if doing this with live ammo at the range?

Beginners, intermediate, even pro's. This is a great way to practice without a range and ammo. I have struggled with low left shots my entire career and this method helped improve my pistol marksmanship.

Yes I have a problem with this. Always had some dexterity issues with my fingers. This is a great drill. Another thing that helped me was one dude said to not grip so tightly with my right hand and grip more with the left, that also helps stop this problem.

If someone had taught me this most basic step 50 years ago... Well, let's just say I would have been miles ahead. Thanks!

@jmfa57

Жыл бұрын

AMEN, Robert. I was about to say the same thing, except for me, 45 years. I just started shooting again after a 4 year hiatus, with a brand new CZ75 D PCR, shooting low and to the left. I drifted the sights all over Creation until I ended up where I started again, hitting along the center axis of the target. In my defense, I would periodically bring out my old Hi Power clone, hit the ten ring every time, and still blame the poor CZ. Sigh...

@QuantumMechanic_88

Жыл бұрын

Shoot with Both eyes open .

@brianx04

Жыл бұрын

Myles ahead

Just about every range session I start with a “one hole drill” - 5 shots in a one inch square starting at five yards. It’s not always pretty. Sympathetic movement is a given, natural occurrence and it takes patience and practice to overcome it and it doesn’t matter if you’ve been shooting for five minutes or fifty years. It can be very humbling at times and at 8 or 10 yards sometimes downright embarrassing. You’ve given me a different approach to the drill and I’ll work on that tomorrow. Thanks.

@crimbullet

Жыл бұрын

Interesting. I’m going to start doing that from now on.

@odinzraider591

Жыл бұрын

Just a suggestion. If self defense is your primary reason for carrying, your first drill of the day should be some type of scorable(to track progress) combat related drill. Done cold for obvious reasons. Then get into your lesson plan for the day.

@stevepauley2437

Жыл бұрын

@@odinzraider591 you mean like a “Bill Drill”, or something similar, correct? If so, I agree.

@baileyboy5253

Жыл бұрын

I share your frustrations. Been shooting my whole life and have yet to overcome this damnable low and left. This drill, however, has me pumped. I hope we are both successful!

@nohemitoobad

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I have had to retrain myself due to strokes from the coof. Non jabber but my lady is… jussayin.

Very good technique brother. Such a clean and professional instruction and demo. Just enough detail without sounding like a lecture. ❤️

@kelvinsim9863

Жыл бұрын

very true

You’re a life saver or at least a gun saver. Got a new CZ and had this problem. Went through your drill and exercises and saw vast improvement at the range. Thank you!

@johnspartan3405

11 ай бұрын

Did you have the issue with any previous guns? I ask because I have never had this issue until I had a new PDP out at the range yesterday and was low left.

Wow! I was wondering why my pistol tends to shoot low and left and I was adjusting to that by aiming higher and to the right! And I stumbled upon this video! Thanks for the explanation and tips.

@stanbarrington9698

Жыл бұрын

And in a panic situation you will probably still have a low and left POI (like me) so I still aim hi right and hope for EITHER of the two POI’s.

@qtyogini7486

11 ай бұрын

Me too! I was aiming right and higher

@EricLafferty-jn4pj

6 ай бұрын

That's known as Kentucky windage.

I have shot low left most times when I start at the range then move my aiming point to adjust. Now I understand the cause! Many of my friends have the same issue but I’ll share this video with them and would bet it works for all of us! Thanks for the explanation and how to correct the problem.

This is one of THE best training drills I have seen on the internet. I use this frequently w/ folks that shoot low left. Also, when I'm checking the accuracy of sights. Thank you for the great content!

Served for 26 yrs as LEO & Sergeant & this video is probably the best Tutorial practice , I've ever seen ! I've always been exceptional with about any rifles or long gun ,,, But just average with a hand gun ! I'd always score 100 on the range or maybe throw 1 ,,, but never grouped, like I should have been or rather could have been !

I've known about the phenomenon, but hadn't seen a way to train for it until now. Thank you very much for this.

This is the EXACT problem I’ve been having!! Thanks so much. Can’t wait to try this drill soon

Quickest way I found to solve this problem was the crush grip. Squeeze the shit out of the gun line you're trying to break it, then back off just enough that your muscles aren't trembling. That's your sweet spot. Any more, involuntary muscle tremors throw the shot wide. Any less, sympathetic muscle movement throws the shot instead. It's worked for decades, still works today. Take it for what you will.

Excellent job explaining this. I have been shooting for 3 months and have this low and to the left problem. I will definitely practice this trigger pull drill more often to become a better shooter. Thank you for the advice.

Thanks for the educational support. I feel like this video was made for me. Lesson learned and shared with others with similar challenges.

I found when I relaxed a little bit on my grip instead of intensely presenting forward to fight the recoil, my shots were both where I aimed and recoil was absorbed through my elbows into my shoulders rather than violently flipping at the muzzle. Consistency is the hard part

I'm a pretty fair shot with my revolvers, but have always had this mental thing against semi auto pistols. Trying to get past it, and finally found someone who spelled it out as plain as day. Thank you.

This exercise is amazingly effective. I just tried it for ½hr with a softair, and it improved my accuracy in no time 😃 Thx for sharing

So went to my indoor range and spent quality time with this drill.. incredible how well it works. You really get to concentrate on separating the trigger finger from the hand. Crazy how much better I got. Thank you!

Thank you young man . This was the best advice I have seen thus far.

Great video can't wait to put this into practice.

Clear, complete, and organized verbal instructions is so rare these days. Most appreciated. EXCELLENT VIDEO INSTRUCTIONS.

Great video. I always knew the physiology of why it was happening, but couldn’t find any reliable exercises to help correct it. Wonderful demonstration and explanation. Keep up the good work. Thanks for the info.

Great analysis of low/left shooting! Thanks for this exercise! Can't wait to try this out.

Big thanks. Appreciate breaking down that sympathetic 3 amigos tendency and then isolating the trigger finger. This is really going to help my clients. I cannot help but mention your explanations are simple and to the point. Peace Be The Journey!

of all the instructor I've watched in videos you are the only one that actually know what you are talking about in this specific problem shooting process. you nailed it like a boss, thanks you kind sir!!!!

I get the feeling that this is similar in concept to the 'washer on the barrel' drill taught during M-16 Basic Rifle Marksman classes in US Army basic training. It teaches you to isolates the finger and trigger and eliminate unwanted muscle input from other parts of your body.

@Dale21B

Жыл бұрын

That's funny you say that. I've been trying to take that drill and apply it to pistols so when I saw this video, I said to myself "This is it!"

@letaz77

Жыл бұрын

What is funny, is people saying the Army actually teaches solders to shoot 🤣. One shot, one kill is a Marine thing.

@howardwmoore

Жыл бұрын

2019 USASOC International Sniper Competition, first and second place positions were held by U.S. Army Special Operations Command (USASOC) teams while third place was claimed by a Marine Scout Sniper team

@Dank_Farrik

Жыл бұрын

@@letaz77 One crayon one meal.

@ronaldbryant5691

Жыл бұрын

My local range suggested a coin on the barrel end for dry firing practice does make a difference but i will still try this method

This is a fantastic drill. One of the ranges I got to has targets that are divided like a pie chart. Each section has feedback for what's happening when you hit that section. It's a great tool, but your video displaying what's actually happening puts a concrete aspect to it rather than just an abstract phrase. I can't wait to try it. Thanks!!

Thank you for taking the time to make this video. Great advice

In all my years of handling a handgun, this video is the first I've seen with the thumb and trigger finger technique. I had to immediately dry fire practice it on my HK USP .45 and the drill works great! Thanks for the tip.

This video is spot on to all of my issues shooting pistols, for some reason I don't have that issue shooting shotguns or rifles. Thanks for the advice and for the explanation

I hadn't shot a handgun in years. Maybe 20 rounds in 10 years. Got a nice backstop and began shooting again. Besides weak forearms (I'm gettin' up there in years) I noticed I developed the low left problem. Didn't matter what handgun .22, 9 or 45. I'm going to try this and see if I can get rid of the problem. I used to be good now I'm eh. Thanks for the tips.

@seangoddard5800

Жыл бұрын

agreed

great explanation and demo. looking forward to practicing this

Awesome instruction. Thanks much.

This is some excellent instruction. I am excited to start using this technique. I hope it allows me to produce similar results. Thanks.

As a former instructor, I found this to typically be anticipation of recoil. 30 years ago everyone was shooting revolvers and it was easy to only partially and randomly load the cylinder so that the student could see what they were doing when the hammer fell on an empty chamber. We would then shoot on partial cylinders for a while until they learned to overcome it. It didn't normally take long. Since a magazine fed pistol doesn't have the same ability for partial/random loads, that solution doesn't work. Happy to see someone come up with another method. Nice work.

@urged5089

Жыл бұрын

Some people will just have a friend load dummy rounds in randomly with live rounds to give that same effect

@rickrebouche354

Жыл бұрын

I do something like this by scattering ammo and snap caps on a table, and loading mags with my eyes closed. Not perfect, but I'm not able to tell them apart by feel so it works.

Awesome video. Thanks man

love these Videos! Kyle is the best educator around/

This is a great drill that I too have been teaching for years. This takes practice and discipline and I have noticed that depending on the handgun and the hand of the shooter, this helps more with some gun "fit" issues more than others. For example, some shooters can shoot fine with certain guns in certain hands but do the low-left with others. For those who simply don't have the time to constantly train, I will also see which handguns shoots best for each person naturally and recommend them as well. It is not perfect but I have found most casual shooters simply don't practice enough to make this training work when they need it to.

Fantastic - finally someone explains it and a retraining drill - thank you!

Man this is the best I've seen on KZread on how to fix this issue

I've consistently grouped left and tried this drill today with great results. Thank you for posting!

I was at a training class this past April and this drill was introduced and it was insanely helpful. You can truly feel every aspect of grittiness within the trigger. Great drill

@TacticalHyve

Жыл бұрын

Great to hear!

Great video as always...please keep up the great work.

@TacticalHyve

Жыл бұрын

We will!

Just back from the range after using your Technique. Finally solved my low left shooting. I can't thank you enough. My targets are no longer embarrassing.

Great video- I’ve seen lots of Tactical Hyve videos and this one that got me to subscribe.

It's hard to do on some pistols even with proper motion because of the geometry of pulling the trigger. Your finger often can't simply move backward but has to close as if gripping, and that torques it to the side. Depends on the LOP vs your hand size.

@IHWKR

Жыл бұрын

I've got a big hand and longer fingers.

@DeathByLego

2 ай бұрын

@@IHWKR unlike popular belief, the little finger on the trigger isn’t the best. I wrap my entire finger around it, so my middle phalange is on it. It helps me keep it consistent- and doesn’t rack the tip of my finger against the frame after shooting.

Great drill and explanation of why I as a right-hander, always shot low and to the left in the beginning. Drove me nuts. I thought my sights were off. So I adjusted my point of aim, high and to the right. Bingo! I’m on target. (Damn iron sights) Then I installed a red dot on my pistol. Zeroed it at the range at 25 yards. I was right back to shooting low/left again so I slowed down and focused. With the red dot, I could easily see it move low/left as my “sympathetic fingers” moved it on the trigger squeeze. (Damn sympathetic fingers). The red dot helped me see the slightest movement so I made sure it didn’t move at all as I pulled the trigger. Somehow, my shots were dead on now. With the iron sights, I would never have seen that slight movement and just blame the sights. I’ve been shooting pistols for decades (never professionally), and considered myself a good shot. So did my friends. Mostly shooting at friend’s properties, home-made plinking ranges, I could easily nail a quarter at 10 yards. Why? Relaxed atmosphere. I didn’t know that then, but I definitely do now. The reason being, I moved out of State, hadn’t shot a pistol in a few years, now I’m in a different state where I don’t know anyone. I bought a pistol at a local gun store and then googled shooting ranges in my area. (See the stress level rising?) I found a very nice indoor range with cameras everywhere, nobody has ever seen me shoot before, I’m a stranger who has to prove I’m safe. The cameras are pegged on this stranger and I shot like crap. (I was safe though) Maybe a little rusty is all. Nope, that wasn’t it. I wasn’t relaxed. I know about human physiology and sympathetic movement. Especially in the hands. Our most intricate of tools. When you squeeze something, all fingers naturally want to be involved. Squeezing a trigger on a pistol is unnatural and you have to leave the other jealous fingers out of it. Not hard to do when you’re relaxed and focused. Now add to the equation that you’re new to this city, this range, cameras on you, and the range masters fully expect you’re going shoot out the ceiling lights. Or, screw up muzzle awareness at any second. Now there’s an atmosphere conducive to shooting very poorly and I did. I realized that my hand was pulling left and low after the red dot proved I was. I should have known this but it’s something my fingers forgot under stress. My second visit, they new my name. Not because I was good but because I was safe. By my third visit to the range, I didn’t give a crap about the cameras, it’s time to shoot as accurately as I’m used to. Bam! Bullseye after bullseye. I didn’t get better than I once was, I relaxed and got as good as I once was. The range master ordered over the intercom, a cease fire. Came to talk to me. “Wow Sean, you’re nailing it! Way better than you were at first. You’re a friggin marksman!” (This is a kid more than half my age so I was gentle) “Here’s how this works, Bob. This is your father’s range. You grew up here. It’s your backyard. This is a second home to you, right?” (Bob nodded) I continued, “When I first walked in this door, never been in this State, didn’t know anyone, I knew I’d be under extreme scrutiny. I had to fill out and agree to all the safety protocols of this range and I KNOW, since I picked an off day of the week, and I was a stranger, all your cameras were locked on me, looking for the slightest screw up. I knew I wouldn’t screw up but you didn’t know that, so I spent most my first visit performing for the cameras. Shooting accurately was a distant second. I’m wanting YOU to relax with ME so that I can relax. You did that and I appreciate it. Then I could focus. Now you’re here commending my marksmanship. I understand and appreciate why you scrutinize strangers to your range, it’s imperative to safety. I needed to prove I was safe in every move I make and you coming out here to personally welcome me to the range is appreciated my friend.” So, I’m back to not allowing sympathetic finger movements on my pistol. During stress, your body and mind take over, clouding focus. Your drill of leaving all the other fingers off the grip is a great way to exercise denying sympathetic movement of the other fingers involved in the grip. I apologize this story is so long, but I wanted to impress on all the other stressful barriers that would definitely lead a shooter to shoot badly in a brand new and stressful environment. Prove yourself safe on a brand new range and then you can relax enough to remember those other fingers on your grip conspire against you. Peace and aloha to all of you. Be safe, shoot well, have fun.

@jonkirkwood469

Жыл бұрын

That's a lot to think about. Thanks. Beyond the range, I'm beginning to understand the importance of tactical training. I've never spent time thinking deeply about a defensive situation. Now that crime is skyrocketing, the Supreme Court restored my 2A rights, and I have entered the "slow gazelle" stage, I must get serious about defensive scenarios. Since a defensive use of a firearm will necessarily be the most stressful situation I encounter, does proximity (usually

I've been having this exact issue! Looking forward to practicing many dry runs, and seeing how live goes. Thank you!!

Gonna give this a try tomorrow. Thanks!

Hey, this vid really helped me a lot. I've owned a Sig P365XL for a couple of months and I've got a bad tendency to shoot low and to the left. I think the video is right as to why I was doing this. My last trip to the range went A LOT better!

@TacticalHyve

Жыл бұрын

Right on!

Going to try this out with my S&W shield, I've been having a Low and to the Left issue with it. Thank you for the insight!!

@tommys2979

2 ай бұрын

The shields are tricky also because of the skinny frame. Ask me how i know lol. Spend some time with it and focus how youre shooting youll learn it eventually!

This addresses the #1 accuracy problem I have. It all makes sense. I'm looking forward to applying this at the range! Thanks!

This simple and effective training tip is the best one I have come across on KZread to improve my groupings. Thank you.

I've watched a couple of your videos and you do a great job w your presentations. Thanks a lot. Keep up the good work. Purchased a SW Plus a couple of months ago and had very little range time w it. Went yesterday and shot 65 frustrating rounds low and left. Right handed, so I'm gripping really tight, attempting to fight that w my left support hand almost like a battle, which is counterintuitive. I mean it shouldn't be this difficult. I click on this video and you are shooting w two fingers. I mean I know it should be easier than what I'm doing and bam, there you are with hopefully my answer. Going again Monday, so I check back in after some practice over the weekend. Again, thanks.

@jamescharles4904

Жыл бұрын

How did the return trip yo the firing range turn out for you?

Thanks for putting this out there. You identified my problem firing my SIG P365XL. It is a smaller handgun and I was shooting consistently low and left. I looked at your method and didn't feel comfortable trying it. I was concerned that I'd lack enough enough control over the weapon with such and light grip, and really don't like my finger on the trigger with less control at the same time. I found another way. So I signed up for a grip and skill enhancement course with instructor one on one time. My guy suggested a very loose grip with the three amigos (three grip fingers on the shooting hand), while supporting the weapon firmly with the support hand. This was the key for me! You both identified the sympathetic movement of the 3 amigos, but I preferred the second approach for me. Wanted to share this with you, since you did such a great job presenting the content, and it is important.

Very helpful for me. It now seems so obvious. Great instruction.

Very useful information and I’m going to give this a try next time at the range. I always like practicing my fundamentals and this is yet another tool to hone my skills.

Tried this drill using my single stack 1911 and I'm quite sure it'll improve my groupings. Dry fire became challenging and exciting now considering the weight of the pistol also.

@onpsxmember

Жыл бұрын

In youth Olympic pistol shooting camps there are also holding regiments, to get the arm used to hold steady and not fatigue early on. So base one handed shooting benefits there as well. Try your non dominant hand as well.

I was thinking about dry firing today and your video posted at the right time. Thanks

That was excellent! Thank you! I appreciate everyone that takes the time to inform others and help with problems they may be having!

As a member of a marginalized group who doesn't even get acknowledged by those supporting all other marginalized groups, I want to thank you from the bottom of my shallow heart for being inclusive towards us persons of left-handed abilities. Can you also do a video on the proper way to use non-inclusive scissors so we can stay on target while cutting paper? Thanks for another great video 😊

@18wheeler77

Жыл бұрын

Haha.

This is very good. I have been doing a similar drill for a few weeks and I saw improvements already. This will improve further, I am sure. Thank you so much for sharing! Also, which sights are you using on the Glock? Very interested to know.

@rickp.1522

Жыл бұрын

Those sights he had I believe are Dawson Precision fiber optic sights. I use those on every Glock I shoot in GSSF competition, they are great sights!

@pewpew9193

Жыл бұрын

@@rickp.1522 Either that or the Ameriglos. I buy those for all my non-optic Glocks. Fiber optic front & blacked out rear.

I needed this video! Thank you keep up the great work!

Great presentation. Made a lot of sense because of a slow detailed approach. Been practicing at home. Will be going to the range next week now that my buddy is back for the winter here in FL. Sent him this so he could practice it dry this summer. I look forward to seeing some more of your videos.

It is also known as mashing. The best cure I found is to put a laser on the weapon and practice dry firing for hours until you can do it without moving the laser dot on the wall. It is difficult to master, but will train your hand and body without having to think. That is the only use for a weapon mounted laser in my opinion.

@duxdawg

Жыл бұрын

I used to play tournament level paintball. As quickly as someone turned on a laser, I hit it. May as well have a big neon arrow pointing at yourself.

@pewpew9193

Жыл бұрын

I use my red dot handguns for the same thing. Do my draw to first shot practice while trying to not move the dot

Well explained! Looking forward to adding this exercise. Thanks!

Excellent demonstration and training. Thank you!

Thank you, Tactical Hyve!

I’m a one year pistol rookie and this has been a major issue for me and my instructor. Hadn’t been introduced to this so is definitely helpful. Thank you

I just found this Instructor addressing a common problem! As a firearms Instructor for over 12 years... this was amazing and your delivery is top notch!

I have seen videos on this but this is the best so far. I have this low and left problem so much appreciate the insight.

I am a new gun owner and I tried this the other night at the range. It definitely worked! My arm/hand did get a bit sore from holding the gun in one hand, but definitely worth it. Going to keep working at it. Thanks so much for a great video and great advice!

Thank you! I needed this.

Thank you. Great information. I'm going to try this when I go to the range

Thanks for much can't wait to try this live!

Significant improvement yesterday at the range shooting 2 of my 1911's chambered 45 ACP at 5, 10, 15 and 20 yards. Changing my left hand grip (making it higher) was the major change that did it. Sweet! TY!

Man I needed this. I was at the range on Veterans Day, and it’s almost like I forgot all my military training and couldn’t hit crap. This got me back on track, thanks bro.

Your passion shines through in every video! 💖

This video has tightened my group 67 still learning

Well said and demonstrated! Very helpful and really describes why I sometimes shoot left no matter how many adjustments I make to the rear sight.

Thank you, brother! I just subscribed and am looking forward to more awesome advice!

Makes sense. Very good instruction. You articulated the mechanics very well. Thank you

that’s my issue at the moment made some adjustments on holding it more firm and totally help but now having this information I will put it into practice. Can’t wait to take it out and try it. Thank you for this video

Thank you for making this video. I can't wait to try this technique. I have shot for years,but cannot seem to break the low left problem. This video makes perfect sense to me. Very well done and clearly delivered.

That’s an excellent training for accuracy. Thank you

Low and left has been my issue for a long time, never seen this approach. I can't wait to try at home and the range. Thank You!

great tip. i got my first pistol and went to the range with it for the first time yesterday and as a lefty, nearly all my shots went right. i know know how to adjust! the three amigos are trouble makers!

Thanks a lot Myles!!!!

Great job Myles..

Thank You. I have been Shooting for over 40 years now. But still working with the trigger practice.

A great tutorial. I was having that same problem, but compensated by aiming high-right. After watching this I tried pointing my index finger straight out and squeezed my “three amigos” and yes! My finger moved left-low! Now I need to get to the range and try this for real. Thanks!😊

Great info, thank you, Myles...

Thank you for this extremely well taught lesson that I didn’t think I needed but was happily wrong. I can fairly easily with time patience and practice correct my thankfully minor mistakes.

Hartelijk dank voor deze les. Dit is precies wat ik nodig heb. TOP!

Excellent advice! Thankyou.

Thank you for including the southpaws.