Honour based abuse. The term should be changed. There is no Honour in taking life. None whatsoever

@Ruby-qr3gc

4 ай бұрын

No honour in abuse either so how does that make sense?

@kaystar1844

4 ай бұрын

@@Ruby-qr3gc who said there's honour in abuse? Are you okay?

@monicanath4859

4 ай бұрын

@@kaystar1844🙏🏼

@ivydickson7596

4 ай бұрын

This is stalking and coercive control. Nothing to do with honour.

@bloompublishinguk

4 ай бұрын

I think you’re missing the point. Of course there’s no honour, but people commit these actions in the ‘name of honour’. It’s the motive.

My heart goes out to this family. I watched this documentary yesterday and Fouziya had such a beautiful personality, any family would’ve loved to have a wife or a daughter in law like her. She looked so vibrant, full of life and fun to be around sort of person. He destroyed their family because of his ego thanks to his parents

@Angels17743

4 ай бұрын

like and agree with your comment but it has nothing to do with his ego

@samirah.rafaqat

4 ай бұрын

@@Angels17743 he was a narcissist, egoistic person who thought that he was right in every way and was greedy for her money too

@AishaKhan-fo1jr

4 ай бұрын

And her parents, there were enough red flags for them to stop her returning to his home.

@Kiwi--nk6dq

4 ай бұрын

@@Angels17743It has everything to do with his ego. He felt threatened by everything about her, he knew she was too good for him. He was an evil narcissist

@islamicreminders3090

4 ай бұрын

Islamically, there is no shame in wanting a divorce . The pressures come from our backwards culture. Fozia should have divorced him, and she would have been in her right to do so! But what will the ppl say , what about my ego !!! May Allah bless her soul and grant her the highest ranks in jannah

RIP Fawziyah and thanks to her mother for having such courage

@AishaKhan-fo1jr

4 ай бұрын

What courage, she failed her only child

@lamusica1592

4 ай бұрын

@@AishaKhan-fo1jr nope. She didn't know her daughters husband was a killer, not everyone is aware how this form of abuse escalates

@AishaKhan-fo1jr

4 ай бұрын

@@lamusica1592 from the evidence presented it is quite clear her family new how violent and abusive he was, there were plenty of red flags, but instead of pulling her out of that situation, no ifs , no buts she was put at risk whilst pregnant. Just awful.

@sistagirl15

4 ай бұрын

@@AishaKhan-fo1jr The only person who could leave was the wife. Her parents couldn’t force her to do anything. It’s annoying that she went back to get £12k and paid for it with her life

@Electronicalengineer

4 ай бұрын

​@@AishaKhan-fo1jrAre you for real? She had been trying to convince her but Fawziyah was a grown up woman. Nobody but herself could take that step. She was planning to come back on her birthday next day! Forever! If anyone can be blamed it's him!

Fawziyah was a beautiful lady inside and out. Fawziyah was an inspirational lady . Fawziyah stood for justice and humanity. Fawziyah was full of life and positivity. I hope the monster that did this never comes out of prison. I am sending my love to Fawziyah's family

@tahirmahmood5966

4 ай бұрын

Its awful especially for the family.

May the mother find peace and comfort Ameen

@islamicreminders3090

4 ай бұрын

Ameen

It sounds wrong to call ‘The Push’ a true-crime documentary, but it was one of the best documentaries I have ever seen in that genre. Educated the viewers without showing too much, and focused more on the victim rather than the murderer which is right and compassionate. My heart goes out to the family, keep fighting the good fight ❤

@lindaaitken7679

4 ай бұрын

It was very impactful.

@456coolkid1

4 ай бұрын

@@lindaaitken7679 Absolutely. Hopefully it will bring legislation, or at least education to those that need it.

My MIL said to me “once a girl gets married only her dead body goes back” I emotionally abused for years until I walked out. However now I suffer chronic anxiety as a result

@jar1041

4 ай бұрын

thats a disgusting thing for your mother in law to say to you, I am so so glad you were able to get out of that situation and are still with us today. I am so sorry you are suffering with anxiety, its horrible thing to go through and I hope you have people in your life who respect and value, and love you.

@esthellakomerl8084

4 ай бұрын

😢

@abidakausar4426

4 ай бұрын

​@@jar1041unfortunately it's a common saying in our community. It's taught since childhood, that's why so many girls take their own lives instead of going back to her parents home cuz that's considered Shameful 😢

@PepperstoneGB

4 ай бұрын

*most of you wives hate a disciplined life and dont want to show respect towards in-laws. Discipline is barder in military. Learn to be empathetic to husband's parents .*

England has a huge problem with this particular type of crime

@ArsenalGunnerHesh

4 ай бұрын

No Muslims and Muslim countries do

@shakesinthehouse

4 ай бұрын

Not just England. There were multiple stories here in Italy as well. Most of the time, the mothers/wives joined in with their husbands.

@catfink4710

4 ай бұрын

Because of immigrants

@babdullah5025

4 ай бұрын

​@@catfink4710because of your ignorance

@meriamhaq123

4 ай бұрын

Because of the laws in this country

I remember this Sikh lady Nina Amoulak, she went through the most horrific abuse from her own family and she said herself stop saying honour in the crime, instead say what they really tried to do to her which was attempted mrdr. When it gets tagged as a culture thing, the sentencing is always less.

@agnescraig2912

4 ай бұрын

Am an Indian migrant and fed up to the back teeth with this cultural traditional values. Just an excuse to keep everyone under control and the need to maintain communities. Why have they chosen the UK or West. Stay home and practice your culture. Arranged marriage another tradition amongst Asians a brazen scam so that extended families communities and entire villages use it to get out of poverty and Western citizenship.

Be careful about who you marry. It is better to be single in your 30s than be in a toxic marriage.

We need to STOP this and well done to Karma Nirvana

@ggunga7764

4 ай бұрын

Yes definitely

He asked why women don't leave, but didn't ask why men are so abusive to women 😐 Previn Karian is a psychotherapist based in the UK. He addresses this problem very well and has great insight.. Rip Fawziyah 😔🌹

Disgusting you can treat someone like that. Some people aren't right in the head.

As one Mother to another.....Yasmin you are someone I truly admire. I'm truly sorry for the loss of your beautiful daughter. May God grant you and your lovely family healing.

Watched the documentary last night and it was so incredibly emotional. I was in floods of tears so I can’t imagine how her family are feeling. Their strength is incredible and I hope that her daughters story saves the lives of other women. More needs to be done to raise awareness about this issue

@igneousfury7864

4 ай бұрын

I was the same. As a mother I feel her pain, I have a daughter and pray God keeps evil like this away from her

@shannonpayne9415

3 ай бұрын

Where can I find the documentary

The father in law is moaning about the engagement ring which he states he paid £3000 or £6000. But what about the money they stole of £12,000. Absolutely disgusting people

@anadantas1527

4 ай бұрын

How much they stole from government in benefits? This is disgusting

@amarielake

4 ай бұрын

Totally disgusting...The apple didn't fall far from the tree.. His Father is evil also

@scartwright9350

4 ай бұрын

Crazy. That was such a crazy thing to say. ON TV.

@sharonkaur7907

4 ай бұрын

I thought the same, most importantly never mind getting the ring back how about been sympathetic regarding the death of your daughter in law, he was more concerned about he’s ring then a loss of a innocent human

@ajones6169

4 ай бұрын

You can't steal from your wife. You each own the money each other makes. It may have been discourteous to just take it but it wasn't just her money in a marriage.

I suffered honour based abuse, no help from the police, lost home job respect, on top facing racism, it's never ending 😢

@hamzaTVNetwork

4 ай бұрын

Sorry to hear this I hope life is on the positive for you bless you

@mah3223alia

4 ай бұрын

I'm so sorry you had to experience this. I'm ashamed that our country does not take your situation seriously. I hope things are better for now?

A friend of mine was in a relationship with a man not from the same faith or culture and her life was threatened. This is unacceptable, in Britain every person has the freedom to choose who they want as a partner without having to face hostile treatment.

@agnescraig2912

4 ай бұрын

Am and Indian migrant believe me it is very common and acceptable to parents and communities. Sikhs marrying Sikhs, Hindus marrying within their caste, Muslims ditto and so it goes. All arranged marriages are scams for one thing only to get Western citizenship and money or better life.

I urge everyone to watch ‘The Push’ which was released on channel 4 recently. I send my love to her precious family ❤️

Dua for the fawziyah and sabr for her family 🤲🤲we nearly went down that road we had the same with our daughter too but thank god our daughter took the step of enough was enough thank god ours is alive with us we support her all the way through thick and thin.sad very very sad for mam and dad of fawziyah RIPs no parent should go through that anywhere in the world ..

My best friend got abused at 18 i witnessed her fella beating her up..the bruises which she denied..sadly she died in a car crash with him in the car till this day i will never know if he pulled the wheel off her..he used to do it all the time when she was driving..he survived and has moved on..hes an evil person..he took my best friend away from me

My brother in law was a narcissistic sociopath, we saved our sister from her ex husband thankfully with the help of Bedfordshire police. I'll never forget how the emerald team took swift action when we needed them. My advice to anyone going through abuse, LOG IT. From the moment the first abuse happens, make a note of it so you have a timeline, because it escalates VERY fast and if the police have the timeline they can do something.

@user-js6tg6fm5u

4 ай бұрын

If the person who is suffering dont have the courage to tell it then what should they do

Whoever coined the phrase "honour based killing/abuse is extremely wrong. Absolutely no honour in abusing or killing your spouse.

Fawziyah's mum, bless her. What a brave woman.

I am gobsmaked that honor based abuse is still tolerated

@user-bk9fk2tq2z

5 ай бұрын

Me too

@halfpakichick

5 ай бұрын

It’s really heartbreaking

@hmmmmm2634

4 ай бұрын

Who tolerates it? A tiny minority maybe but definitely not the majority.

a mother who loved her and was on her side every step of the way, even in death ❤

Listen to these women!!!!!

So proud of this mum!

I see mum is going all they way! Amazing women! Make sure you protect her she is courageous women I wish her all the best and my condolences on her family loss. I also agree with commentators here we should stop using honour based abuse, there is no honour in abusing!!! Those responsible for abuse are criminals and should be punished!

@hmmmmm2634

4 ай бұрын

Abuse is abuse whatever name we give it and completely unacceptable

My Heart goes out to Fawzia's Family May she rest in peace, I too have suffered Domestic Violence in the past Really badly, My Family was very supportive and got me out of their asap.

Beautiful Mother 💔

Watched this the other day on TV on c4 and the mum is so so brave

@shamz-261

4 ай бұрын

What’s the name of documentary??

I was in a abusive marriage for 19yrs years, people need to be educated on this because people have said to me y did u leave it so long and should have just left first thing ur not in that situation u dont know how it feels to be in that situation, until u go through it u will never know how it feels, rip angel 😢❤

@zaftra

2 ай бұрын

you still dind't answer why.

Such a brave lady for speaking out ❤

Having watched the documentary Yasmin is a lovely strong woman - I cried all the way through this clip, 😢

@nxfiza.1

4 ай бұрын

😢😢😢😢

So sad. You are in our thoughts Sr Yasmin. Do take care of yourself ♥️♥️

Narcissistic abuse

Welldone to Fozia’s mum for bringing up the interview that the murders father gave during the documentary on channel 4…. What that man was saying was clear abuse he was using honour based language… he was more concerned about a diamond ring that belonged to Fozia rather than her death.

How terrifying that the Interviewer, who says he is from the same community, hears of this all the time and from many families!! I find that really shocking, the women of this community need to make a stand against this! My heart goes out to Fawziyahs family, may she rest in peace!

@MishaVlogz

4 ай бұрын

Sometimes it is hard.

@noreenbi9079

4 ай бұрын

It happens in every community. White men beat there partners when there football team loses

@liszaf3976

4 ай бұрын

@@noreenbi9079 yes but their in-laws, parents, brothers and uncles are not normally complicent in the abuse as is often the case in Honour killings, these are 2 different things!

@noreenbi9079

4 ай бұрын

@@liszaf3976 So it makes it OK.?

@noreenbi9079

4 ай бұрын

He was the 1 who pushed his wife no1 else

It's not just stigma, it's financial issues

It's ridiculous that the poor woman went back to her husband after abuse, to try to talk him in to returning 12,000 pounds. Her parents should have told her, "Forget the money, just get out of there!". And the police gave her poor advice.

@ZAY4NI786

5 ай бұрын

I agree with this. Cannot believe they did not stop her from going back.

@hinaz85

4 ай бұрын

Her parents clearly wanted her back. See the documentary

@sabztaskhant

4 ай бұрын

They still should have not let her go back, they knew what he was capable of, she had a good job she could have easily earned that money back

@Fhfhdjdksks292i2

4 ай бұрын

People complaining the parents should have done this and done that ....who wants their child to be killed?? None so these pathetic comments need to stop you cant tell a 31 year old woman whos married to come home no one knows the present if they did they wouldave stopped her just pray for the family thats all we can do as human beings

@IqzZed

4 ай бұрын

It's not about the money it's about the principle. And its not as easy as just getting out of a marriage, especially as a woman due to the emotional attachment and 'wanting to make their marriage work'. The ifs and buts won't make the situation any better for anyone. Women are wired differently than men. Alot of it is brushed under the carpet in hope that he will see her love eventually . It's a shame. A young life has been taken due to a controlling typical narcissistic man who couldn't control himself, let alone be capable of respecting someone who takes the most amazing title of being your wife. Inna lilahi wa inna ilayhi rajioon. May Allah grant her and her baby the highest of ranks, grant her family sabr, and reunite them in His eternal gardens. Ameen. May our society wake up and learn from this!

Its such a shame because unlike some other families, fawziyas parents and family really wanted her back... but she had been so coerced to feel to stay.

@AishaKhan-fo1jr

4 ай бұрын

Who was coercing her stay? that does not make sense, she was there only child, greatly loved, at the first red flag they should have broken off the engagement, if not then there where multiple incidences when it was clear this guy was extremely abusive and violent and capable of being violent and vicious.

Natasha is an angel. She is the voice of reason.

I wish I knew this charity years ago. I wish I had someone to help me when I was alone.

I cried watching the documentary such a lovely soul was Foziayah, she's in junnah now with her child

Like father like son.

I'm sorry but how was this anythjng ro with honour? Just because they were Asians, doesn't eman it was honour, I'm offended, it was all abt DOWMSTIC ABUSE

@QueenOfSheeba187

4 ай бұрын

It’s known as an honour killing when multiple family members are in on it. Domestic is one on one. Her mother apparently had ample opportunity to intervene.

@anadantas1527

4 ай бұрын

Rifar knows but wants make others stupids

@anadantas1527

4 ай бұрын

Rifat not rifar

Very sad victims must speak up and be safe the mum is brave hopefully this will help many others.

Mom am so sorry what u have being through 😢😢

I am so relieved mother is speaking publicly and brave move. This will encourage to do the same Rest in peace

MAY SHE REST IN HEAVENLY PEACE🙏

Utterly heartbreaking….no one deserves this

Culture needs to change and the new couples need to live in their own properties not with their parents. It is easier for anyone to walk away without dealing with/respecting the in-laws (controllers). Let’s start there and see what happens.

Incredibly difficulty to understand alot of unanswered questions here. Why did he throw a wedding party 4 months after the wedding? Did he use the 12k to throw that wedding party? He was abusive swearing when they went to get rings why was he allowed to think thats acceptable? Why does his dad think hes entitled to the ring? He put a pillow on her face and punched it why did the mother allow her daughter to go back to this abuse. That 12k was not worth the damage it done. Why did the uncle send a message saying dont tell us about your inlaws keep stuff to yourself. Why was a thourgh investigation not carried out by the family to find out what kind of guy he was when they saw him swearing in the car. Too many unanswered questions

Agree. There is no honour is abusing women in the name of honour.

The parents of the husband were on it too. And they should been questioned

Mother such a beautiful person.. That beautiful kindness was also passed on to their daughter. Hope the arranged marriages and so called honour killing-(I would call it leaving an abuser killing) needs to stops now , would love to see statutory definition for "Honour" based abuse enacted, sadly more protection for our "progressive society" is urgently needed for woman and young girls today.

Opening up to family members is never easy by any stretch, especially when children are left behind to pick the pieces up , if all perpetrators are not convicted? They will do it again to others , there has to been law in place to convict enablers too to prevent it happening again

How on earth can any "religion" accept death of a family member for ridiculous "honor" reasons or arrange marriage for a young girl?

@Flyingtoohardtofly

4 ай бұрын

It’s not an Islamic issue it’s cultural.

Great movement! I hope it grows.

Wonderful interview GB news

Devastating! Very brave lady ❤

So sorry vasmin panji for your loss could not hold back tears all way through documentary fouzia went to gateways school with my daughters my older daughter was heartbroken wish your brother had said something to me l live in leeds your brothers my friend from hyde park

The guy kashif's Shameless family was still taking their sons side. That part made me really angry and sick that evil people like them still exist. They should be ashamed of themselves

That's horrible, cant even imagine. Hope tou are doing okay

I dont know how she did it honestly just made me cry just following this story ...just heart breaking 😢

Our prayers are with you, you're most courageous woman, after loosing your daughter the way you did is not easy to do amazing campaign the way you're campaigning. May Allah be with you sister. ❤❤❤😢

Such a brave and strong mum 🩷🩷

Just heartbreaking 💔💔

'.…she would be so proud of you being here today...' :')

When is part two avaliable to watch i was in tears watching it

@Stor506

5 ай бұрын

If you are in the UK, it's on the channel 4 website. It's even sadder than the first part. Excellent, but you will be in tears.

@user-kv4fn7mu5t

5 ай бұрын

@@Stor506 I do live in the UK I will look for it now thankyou

@Stor506

5 ай бұрын

No problem

@user-kv4fn7mu5t

4 ай бұрын

@@Stor506 well I watched it and you were right I was in tears because I thought he was going to get away with it

@Stor506

4 ай бұрын

Ik...the pain of the mother was devastating.

On occasions one cannot prove if the family member was murdered? Lack of appropriate law and time limitations to looking into the case? When incidents happen families are emotionally upset losing loved ones , only as time passes you begin to question ❓ what could have happened and why? unfortunately by then it's way too late to open the case

She is denying that culture has nothing to do with it but culture do affect the social behaviour of people.

@islamicreminders3090

4 ай бұрын

Culture has everything to do with it.

May her soul rest in peace ❤

Why let her go back to a dangerous situation because of money? Use Police and Bank systems to make claim and stay away from abusers.

Heartbroken 💔 I feel so sorry for the entire family 😢

Thank you, this is widespread and more needs to happen to prevent this from happening. Yes thete might be nuances and specifics but across culture there are dangerous toxic perpetrators who are either brought up to have a disregard for women and girls or could be victims of their own trauma. Lets not be short sighted about that. This is everyone's business because it can happen to anyone.

The saddest thing is that the murderers parents won’t give fouzias things back to her parents. They still have all her property and won’t return it. They are just as guilty as their disgusting son.

Although, domestic abuse is prevalent in every single county of the world. The particular of honour based killing is specific to the Muslim and Indian communities

@misspollysdolly

4 ай бұрын

As a muslim you're right. Me and my sister just consider ourselves blessed to not be born into one of these families. There was a girl in my aunts village back home that I was friends with as a kid. When she was a teenager a guy sent a video of her and himself kissing to her brother to embarrass her and her family almost threw her off a cliff. If it wasn't for my aunts family stepping in and saving her she'd literally be dead. It's so scary

@BLOXKETCHUM

4 ай бұрын

It is culture nothing to do with muslims.

@islamicreminders3090

4 ай бұрын

Honour killings have nothing to do with islam . It is a cultural thing its barbaric and it must end. Islam came 1400 years ago and gave women rights to divorce ,in a time where ppl were burrying alive their infants ,if they were female. Muslims please know your rights in islam ! Don't worrying about the ppl ,you are only answerable to Allah!!

May Allah grant fozia jannah, may Allah swt make it easy for her parents and family, so sad by this news so awful how her own husband could do this, abs awful and disgusting, just because he wanted to have control and power over her, my heart hurts even listening to it all❤

Very sad😢

Aww bless 🙌 so so sad 😢

Did they check his computer or mobile devices of how he planned the trip only this particular mountain in Edinburgh, Arthur's seat. Or did he plan to take her another place

So sad 😢

Beautiful woman...❤RIP...

This poor girl was in a violent relationship with a Narccisst, who co-erced her. It's happens to women all over the UK from different communities and socio economic backgrounds. It's not an Honour Based. If her parents knew why did they let her go back.

She is an amazing mother. Father God from Heaven, comfort her and reveal Yourself in her life. R.I.P

Stop calling it honour!

The husband should be kept behind bars until his death no parole whatsoever. What do these guys mean by honor killing it seems only the men can go out and enjoy themselves but the wife has no reason to confront her husband

why do they not go and live by themselves ,i could never never live with my inlaws .thats abuse in itself ,what changed him after marrige ,or was he like this before

This is so sad 😭

The ❤ mum 😢 Allah she make me cry I feel her pain stay strong

It's awful...

Honour based abuse? In Britain 🇬🇧? wow 🤯🥸😳🫨😵‍💫🥴

So thats why he gave her his phone, so it can fall with her with evidence of his messages he might have.

In Islam no such thing as honor killing its the culture

Her mum looks shattered bless her

Thus sister would have been same age as me. I hopes and wishes be with all family and friends

Full respect to you dear sister, for standing up to these disgusting family, may Allah SWT grant your daughter a special place in Janat ul Firdous Ameen Sum Ameen ♥️, stay strong sister, your in my prayers ❤️

A very brave lady ❤