Really loving the recent editing style. Great transitions!

nice efforts again! when my ps5 started to shut off while playing from overheating there was no message. i had to remove the power cord and then do a hdd repair on both drives and read the message that the unit was not shut down properly . it ran for 16 months 24/7 and the fan was quite dusty and heatsink was plugged with dust. i didnt check the liquid metal since the cleaning of the fan and heatsink fixed the shutting down.

I found you can rotate out the main board assembly to about 75 degrees angle leaving the metal shielding undisturbed. Once there, you can easily blow out the heatsinks and PSU with an electric blower. To do this you need to leave the IO ribbon cable attached and IO board installed. Just be careful that you don't put the IO ribbon under pressure. If you are careful and maintain observation with the still attached ribbon cable, you can easily rotate out the main PCB for heatsink cleaning. I tend to put a little contact cleaner on the PSU spikes once air dusting is complete to ensure best PSU connectivity.

Nice editing job, Steve. I love the zoom animation. 👍

Whenever you mentioned ifixit tools, you reminded me of the time when I cleaned and repasted my old laptop several years ago. Thanks to their instruction video and tools, I did it very well although it was my first time. I got more comfortable cleaning laptop and doing thermal paste since then. Also cool shirt you got there.

The PS5 was fine, it just REALLY didn't want to play Horizon Forbidden West.

@Tronicsfix

Жыл бұрын

Lol, apparently!

@thedoomslayer108_YT

Жыл бұрын

What's wrong with Horizon?

@Olibelus

Жыл бұрын

It’s just the trial version and he has 0% progress and 0 trophies so he just turns it on and let’s it run I assume.

@ingkwameasamoa879

Жыл бұрын

Can I substitute the liquid metal with thermal paste ????

@MrCallmevader

Жыл бұрын

My friend had the same problem with the launch spider man

That transition was fire!

Mine has been having this issue for about a month and a half now im glad there is away to fix it

I'd love to know the amount of times you've undone those 40 completely necessary screws.

@Alirezarz62

Жыл бұрын

Man even thinking about it annoys me. It's not all about doing it tho it's the fact that you have to be careful you don't lose these 43 screws

@Malinkadink

4 ай бұрын

get a magnetic white pad you can write on with sharpy, draw a diagram of where each screw came from and you never lose a screw@@Alirezarz62

@WebSurfer447

3 ай бұрын

@@Alirezarz62 if u get a magnetic tray it will change your life :)

I have not had any problems with my console. And I believe it's one of the original launch models. I've never seen a single overheating message. I guess I am a bit OCD when it comes to cleaning game consoles and keeping them running cool for longer game sessions.

@dailygamer6630

Жыл бұрын

Yea me either plus my stuff never gets dusty, but then again I don't use consoles that much anymore

@Tronicsfix

Жыл бұрын

I think keeping it clean is going to really help its longevity

@betrion7

Жыл бұрын

@@dailygamer6630 time to change that user name then ;)

Great video, thanks for sharing your knowledge!!

Bro I loved this video SO MUCH. I really hope you do more

The thing is is not all parts of the die have thermometers so if there’s a dry spot and thus a hot spot it may not detect a high temp but detect too many errors that result from a high temp and turn it off, similar to how bsod’s are triggered on windows

I just got my ps5(owned before by someone else). It immediately had this problem. I have it fixed for now but once I get the tools I’m definitely giving it a good cleaning. So helpful 😊

Got it and thank you! I posted a video on my channel about the potential of a leak. Lots of comments there saying I’m fear mongering. I don’t want to spread false information. I may have to take my PS5 apart. I’m going to watch your cleaning video again first lol. Thank you for your help.

Great video! Do ever add liquid metal or are you always spreading what is already there?

I would assume based on the 1st PS5's symptoms that the PSU thermal protection was kicking in before the APU, hence no overheating message and just plain shutting down.

@TheChzardian

Жыл бұрын

This seems very likely in my case. Never seen the over heating message, but still the same symptoms.

@zmman9243

8 ай бұрын

Explain? My PS5 is a launch model and it’s suffering the same symptoms, no message at all. Just POOF! power off.

@SmallPaul.

7 ай бұрын

A got the same at the weekend no message just turned off and wouldn't turn back on so changed fuse in plug and she came to life but you could feel the heat coming off it so went on amazon bought a small precision set with security torx and just striped the ps5 down today took me 3 hours as its my first time and my fan heat sink and power supply where full of dust and cat hair cleaned it all out and she is running really quite so quite that a had to double check that I reconnected the fan lol so if you guys are having the same issue strip it down and clean it 1 tip you don't need to take the shield off or the heatsink once you have it striped down enough flip it over and take the 2 screws out so you can remove it in one piece to clean and not worry about the liquid metal running everywhere

@wREXTIN

6 ай бұрын

@@zmman9243 same launch model. Just had same issue. Did you end up sending yours back or did u find a fix ?

Nice one. This is reminding me that I should do a good cleaning on my PS5. Mine is a launch disc system that’s been horizontal the whole time due to the space I have for it. No problems and runs pretty quiet during play. Fingers crossed it stays that way.

@angelogalileo

Жыл бұрын

Hi could tell me if your working PS5 is a 1000, 1100 or 1200 model please? (It's written under the PS5

@ColdFuego-

Жыл бұрын

He mentioned that he had the ps5 since launch. So his ps5’s definitely the 1000 model. Also the most recent ps5 model is 1200 so I don’t know where your 1600 came from

@neojeets

Жыл бұрын

@@ColdFuego- Yes, its a CFI-1015A.

@angelogalileo

Жыл бұрын

@@ColdFuego- (edit July The 3th) Thanx : Investigation results still now : Investigation results still now : 12XX without problem : 7 gamers 10XX without problem 7 gamers 10xx shut down after 2 years (fixed by cleaning the internal power supply from dust) : 2 gamers 1116A without problem 2 gamer 1116A/B WITH CRASH SHUT DOWN PROBLEMS : 8 gamers (!!!) 1115B (digital version) without problem 1 gamer It's not a lot but it's intéressant to see that the most gamers (almost 100%) who have issue are on the 1100 model for the moment.

@angelogalileo

Жыл бұрын

@@ColdFuego- (1600 was a mistake I wanted to write 1200, I've edited)

i learned so much from this thanks man. thanks for sharing.

I see alot of people asking. Yes vacuuming the holes helps but it's minimal I guess it's peace of mind only. I've vacuumed the holes on mine but it was still caked on the fan. Cleaning the fan is not fun it really gets caked up even if you dust it off. I have hepa air purifier in every room it helps but still gets dusty and caked up. I blow my ps5 out as well as all the pcs/laptops every 3 to 6 months. I've cleaned 8 PS5 for people as a service in my town and the fan is always caked in each household the heatsinks are usually not that bad seems like the fan design just loves collecting lint and dust.

@MGrey-qb5xz

Жыл бұрын

you use a leaf blower on ps5 without taking it apart?

@robreich6881

Жыл бұрын

The issue is the PS5 so massive and unwieldy it’s hard to put somewhere efficiently. Hope a slim model comes out ASAP.

@nicklespale22

3 ай бұрын

I'm just glad people everywhere are taking to regular maintenance of their systems nowadays instead of just letting something die and assume it's reached the end of its life cycle to just get a new one. Cause if there's one thing we all know, these companies aren't making the devices we love for long and when something goes wrong, you'd typically want to start again with the same product you had before.

Depends where the temp sensor is. It could be some place else than the dry spot, so no overheating message, just thermal protection kicking in at last second, before APU burns itself

@ceramicmagic4169

Жыл бұрын

then It's a poor design if that sensor is not catching actual overheating

@MGrey-qb5xz

11 ай бұрын

@@ceramicmagic4169 this is the ps3 all over again, ps4 pro was perfect yet sony messed everything up again for their inventive fetish

@giggity4670

11 ай бұрын

@@ceramicmagic4169 That will be on AMD side of things for the sensors as it is there chips not Sony's they cant change the chips. But the problem of it has gone away so it must of been a way Sony was applying the liquid metal or brand of it as this problem only affected early models so Sony did change something to fix it.

What type of tool would you/anyone recommend to clean/reposition the liquid metal with?

I'm not surprised, seems like launch systems have issues. I bought a launch PS1 and laser was a poor design and eventually failed. My PS5 controllers have stick drift, I tore them apart and cleaned the sticks with electronics cleaner.

Thank you for the video, very useful.

Do you think that people who keep their PS5 vertical are at greater risk of the liquid metal moving about? LOL, I see that you answered this at the end of the video....I thought so. Thanks!!!

From watching your buddy The Cod3r, I have gotten the impression that the liquid metal gets out of place largely due to dropping the unit. The shock makes it splatter. It gets all over the place and shorts things out. If you lay the PS5 horizontally, it is in a more stable position and is less likely to get knocked off the entertainment center onto the floor. So whether it is just gravity or dropping that causes the problem with the liquid metal, laying horizontally is an improvement.

Can you do a video on what equipment you use?

It looked like as you cleaned oxidation off the APU that the remaining liquid metal looked "chunky". Was oxidation being left behind?

I have a suggestion. Try Honeywell tpm 7950 thermal pad. I used it on my PS4 Pro and framework laptop. Both are now super quite. LTT tested it, and the conclusion is, it is on par with liquid metal. As I don't own a PS5 yet, I can not try it myself.

@ibrahimhalil9251

Жыл бұрын

Normal thermal paste can't conduct better than liquid metal.Liquid metal Thermal conductivity: 128 W/mk(average) Normal thermal paste max:14 W/mk

@MGrey-qb5xz

Жыл бұрын

@@ibrahimhalil9251 liquid metal is expensive and also requires dust filters

5:10 that noise gives me goosebumps

Day 1 first batch ps5 here and no issues at all

43 totally necessary screws got me laughing pretty good lol

is the liquid metal dry on the same area of the apu every time? Could it be gravity?

Love the Christmas-Shirt!

Any video involving Steve and a PS5, my favorite moment is the "43 totally necessary screws" lol.

ive kept my ps5 horizontal since day one cause i think it looks better, everyone always asks me why i keep it that way instead of vertical, now i have another reason

@tyr573

6 ай бұрын

Its designed and marketed to be vertical and all the PCs that use liquid metal are vertical so your reasons are poor

@nutshed

6 ай бұрын

@@tyr573 yeah bro my preference on how it looks is a poor reason LMAO

@kevinbernatek7875

3 ай бұрын

Same!

@cocoslangos

29 күн бұрын

@@tyr573 no? Less dust comes in the air vents if i keep it horizontal

It definitely does not give you the heat error message all the time,(never did for me) after watching your breakdown vid, i did a cleanout (stage 3) and lucked out with just a dusty heatsinc. Sper drty.....i do alot of GT7 series racing and ps would shut off after 20 to 30 min, the full clean saved me, no liquid metal issue this time🥵, love your vids! 🤜🤛

@MGrey-qb5xz

Жыл бұрын

yeah this time but the heatsink being dusty means it could damage the liquid metal to not working fully, attach dust filter , no dust should be allowed in there

What is that little brush you used to spread the Liquid Metal around? Or was it just a black qtip?

that dry spot is where the heat sits when you shut it down immediately after hours of playing. i make it a habit to cool down my consoles for like 3-5 minutes before shutting them down. my 14yr old ps3 slim 6 yr old ps4 slim runs like new on their stock thermal paste. now that i have the ps5, i'm making sure to cool it down before turning it off to disipate the heat inside.

Isn’t it possible that the PS5s just sitting and not being used is what’s causing the dry spots? I think you need a control case, meaning a vertical PS5 that’s actively used or at least in sleep mode in order to see how the Liquid Metal behaves.

Hi there, thanks for sharing. I've been watching your videos for a while and don't remember you addressing the possibility of switching from liquid metal to a good thermal paste. Is it really necessary to exclusively use liquid metal? Wouldn't a good thermal paste do the necessary heat transfer and avoid all the dry spots and splatter from people bumping their consoles?

@pabben03

Жыл бұрын

He already made a video on that. Search it up. He put thermal paste on the ps5

@saucyBot

Жыл бұрын

He did a video about that, iirc the conclusion was the metal liquid is necessary

It was the power supply on first ps5. If the power supply overheats you won’t get a warning message first. If it’s the APU it’ll pop a warning message or the board in general

Pumpout issue like with low-viscosity thermalpaste on GPUs? Seeing the the PS5 is also heatsink on direct die similar to GPUs.

i really love your videos sir as its always informative BASED on your different experiences on your repairs..sharing your knowledge and experiences to all of us lessens the tendencies of broken or unrepairable game consoles because of not carefully handling them..best example as always is cleaning the console..for me its always the key to prolong a game console's lifespan... though we all know the YLOD and other light of death on other consoles that is always inevitable at least in their lifespan we took good care of them before their demise,,,, Nice Video Sir!!!! ❤❤❤❤❤

it's interesting to see that Sony decided this was the best way to cool the system. given the series x and PS5 basically use the same APU I wouldn't expect their cooling solutions to be so different even given their form factors, Sony obviously knew about the limitations of LM and decided to use it anyways

@MGrey-qb5xz

11 ай бұрын

and soon other companies will follow cause they can sell soon to be defective products and the masses would be more then happy to buy cause liquid metal sounds hip to them. Disposable income is disposable indeed

@dc2akira

11 ай бұрын

It all comes down to cost. MS used a custom vapor chamber, but also don’t mind selling the Series X at a significant loss. Sony can’t afford to do that anymore.

@giggity4670

11 ай бұрын

I think Sony ran in to some problems with the design of it as the heat sinks are kind of a odd set up and spaced out like it was put in a later date as i think it struggled with heat problems as the fan itself is having to pull air from the front of the case when it is on the side blocked by the silly panels. That why so much heatsinks and liquid metal instead of normal paste while Xbox used the vaper chamber and good fan placement as the AMD chip can pump out some good heat when under load maybe that is why Sony clocked the chip down a bit from Xbox as they both using the same chips but Sony one is clocked down a small bit. Just what i think i have both consoles so not saying one is better.

@Uzishan

9 ай бұрын

@@MGrey-qb5xz that is very questionable. Liquid Metal is actually a better cooling solution overall

@5ivetimes1

8 ай бұрын

Liquid metal is far superior at conducting heat vs. thermal paste, several times better than the very best pastes, so is a more efficient interface between the chips heat sink and the cooling block.

I had the same issue with my ps5 keep shutting down recently and then I checked the psu for dust and since I cleaned it I haven’t had any further shut downs

My PS5 did the same thing. I have the day one and all I had to do was clean it With a shot vat cleaning kit and it worked just fine did not spread or open my p s 5 once Has been working normal ever since. It cost me 50 bucks to get the vacuum cleaner kit. Around the heat sink and that was it

is it really necessary for a PS5 to use liquid metal ? normal thermal compound does not cool it enough ?

I had a customer last week with the same problem. His PS5 had about 8 months, very clean inside and still getting overheat. After open up, i noticed this same issue, one part of the APU was dry of metal liquid. After move around the metal liquid to cover that area, closed the PS5 and the customer had no problems at all anymore.

@samuelgregr8451

Жыл бұрын

I have a little problem with mine it working but it doesnt showing on the monitor sometimes it showing a white light but when i tried a ps remote play it working on the remote play but not on the monitor it is because of the ac adapter ? i leave my ps5 on yesterday and when i came back then it happend thanks for reply

@kensm2

Жыл бұрын

@@samuelgregr8451 If it's working on ps remote play, the console gpu itself is fine, i think its something wrong with the hdmi output ci.

@Zsolt_

Жыл бұрын

This means that basically nothing horrible can happen? If there are errors, just check and fix the liquid metal? I'm keeping my device vertical. Does it make any sense to check the metal without having any issues? It is over 2 years old.

@kensm2

Жыл бұрын

@@Zsolt_ If there is any problem with the liquid metal heat transfer, the console will only shutdown itself.

@Zsolt_

Жыл бұрын

@@kensm2 thanks!

You should do one system and just replace the thermal past either regular thermal paste...bet it works just as good

Which tool kit do you favor for a full (All Models) PS5 cleaning or tear down? Liquid metal, and everything else too.

Ive had my PS5 since launch but since i heard that story about the liquid metal i been using it vertical and its staying that way to be safe since my warranty is out. Keep them vids coming👍

@benterry28

Жыл бұрын

I though vertical use was the issue

@MGrey-qb5xz

11 ай бұрын

@@benterry28 dust also causes liquid metal to pool up and dry and collect on the cooler parts of the apu, both ps5 and xbox series are huge dust magnets but ps5 suffers the most from it, L console

@MisterSeanR

8 ай бұрын

You must mean horizontal wright 🥴😂

How useful/helpful do you think those ‘vacuum holes’ are on the PS5? Would vacuuming them every now and then actually help stop any significant internal dust build up?

@AgreeableDetail

Жыл бұрын

Just anecdotal, but I was having the same issue where my ps5 was shutting down, a lot, while playing ps5 games. I read about the vacuum holes and tried it. No more shut downs. Now I do it every couple of months and I haven’t had the issue come up again.

@angelogalileo

Жыл бұрын

Hi. Could you tell us if your model is a 10000, 11000 or 12000. I try to see if these shut down problems are specific to the 11000 model...( Mine is a 1116A)

@MGrey-qb5xz

Жыл бұрын

no , take it apart to clean it and then attach dust filter

@bpowick

Жыл бұрын

@@MGrey-qb5xz Plenty of websites out there have recommended not to install aftermarket dust filters after they tested them as they restrict airflow and cause the PS5 to run hotter. Regularly cleaning your PS5 is probably the best thing to do.

Can you tell the tools you are using please and thank you

Awesome video ,thanks for your knowledge.... was wondering if the first ps5 that had the dry spot was an 1115a or an 1215a.... you didn't mention which one it actually was , you only mentioned the second and third ps5.... thanks again....

@mastercollector2891

Жыл бұрын

Mine is the 1215a model.. that is the latest edition so far. Bought mine last Thursday and sooooo far np overheating with runs at times playing over 3hrs. Plus I have mine at vertical stance.

@angelogalileo

Жыл бұрын

Could you tell us if Overwatch 2 version PS5 works with your 1215 model PS5? If yoy've tested the game...

Have you tried replacing liquid metal with good thermal paste or the difference in temps will be too much?

@matthewward5849

Жыл бұрын

I was actually thinking of doing this.

@ServuloAraujo

Жыл бұрын

@@matthewward5849 You will be able to use it for a maximum of 10 minutes and you will be warned of high temperature, the recommended is liquid metal and not thermal paste.

@damianshafer7308

Жыл бұрын

Either he made the video or someone else did on replacing the liquid metal with thermal paste and it does not work

Sold my PS5 about 3 weeks ago as I've moved back to PC gaming but still this was very interesting, thanks!

@stevesgaming7475

Жыл бұрын

@@juliuscaesar7715 Since I got a new PC and a Steam deck I switched back to pc gaming and I just wasn't using my PS5 at all, not even an hour a week, so I decided to sell it.

Where did you get that tool you use to spread the Liquid Metal?

Mine has been on since it came out. Never had a problem with it, never cleaned it. Been almost 3 years and purring like a kitten with 9tb of memory.

Do you think that keeping the PS5 vertical contributes to the dry spot forming and better to keep it horizontal or does that matter? Also how long should we wait before checking the liquid metal on our systems? Thx! I see you answered my question at the end of the video I should have waited until it was finished before asking. Thanks for the information I am now keeping mine horizontal just to be on the safe side.

@vongotpacked4455

6 ай бұрын

Wondering this myself

I'm just curious can you buy liquid metal much like you could thermal paste?

is it a dry spot? have been wondering. is it not just a clamping problem where there is direct contact between the silicon and heat sink that squishes the liquid metal away. however the oxidation is not good as it will damage the mounting surface on the heat sink

Man i wish i could be ur apprentice! This is literally everything i want to do for a career! Im going into IT this fall and hope to be where youre at someday

I'm curious cause I haven't seen a lot regarding it, but what about the vacuum holes Sony put on the case to clean the dust out. Would this help if dust is already caked on the heatsink?

@neu318

Жыл бұрын

Also, I know you attempt to fix them for content and show us the inner workings but could you send them into Sony for repairs since they are still under warranty?

@MGrey-qb5xz

Жыл бұрын

no it be useless, take it apart and clean it, then attach dust filter and pray that liquid metal didn't get damaged

@BenFilley

Жыл бұрын

@@MGrey-qb5xz now I see you just have no clue what you’re talking about, and are just regurgitating incorrect talking points. Liquid metal doesn’t get damaged. I’ve had the same application of it on an i5 4670k since the cpu launched, with zero degradation. I’ve been building computers for over 25 years.

@MGrey-qb5xz

Жыл бұрын

@@BenFilley casing

@BenFilley

Жыл бұрын

@@MGrey-qb5xz is a word. Which means nothing without some sort of context.

Yikes,not great news to see this. Definitely concerning for a $500 console.

I've seen videos of people putting the Grizzly Carbonault Termal Pad and another putting the PTM 7980 Termal Pad and both say they solved the problem of preventing the Ps5 from turning off due to overheating. Have you tried to do this? How about trying and talking to an agent?

I have no idea when it comes to this stuff, but love the videos!! Question though, Can't you just replace the liquid metal with thermal paste and be done with it? Or is it designed to only accept liquid metal??

@kensm2

Жыл бұрын

Only liquid metal.

@TheUnsureFox

Жыл бұрын

Steve answers that question in this video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/fpaMwbejmMrWd7g.html

@MGrey-qb5xz

Жыл бұрын

@@kensm2 L

I am sure this has been tested before, but I would love to see you do a few different tests on a PS5 with all liquid metal removed and replaces with varying tiers of thermal paste. Kryonaut, Artic Silver, Noctua branded, the stuff you purchase by the bucket, etc. I am going to assume Sony engineered the PS5/heat sink so it would not work, but a detailed analysis would be REALLY cool to watch and learn from. Just a thought, Steve! PS: if anyone knows of a TY channel that has done what I am describing here, please let me know their name and the name of the video so I can go check it out!

@jstone1

Жыл бұрын

Steve did that in a previous video! kzread.info/dash/bejne/fpaMwbejmMrWd7g.html&ab_channel=TronicsFix

@Leemillion_xM

Жыл бұрын

I’m sure he has done it. It basically doesn’t work.

@Tech3604u

Жыл бұрын

Apu is hotter than thermal paste that’s why they used liquids metal

@MGrey-qb5xz

Жыл бұрын

@@Leemillion_xM L console

@conwa23

11 ай бұрын

LM will always give better thermal results then any kind of paste.

Is that what my issue is? I’ve had a PS5 since launch and my console will run PS5 games for about 30-45 minutes and then turn off. I’ve tried deep cleaning, rebuilding the database, wiping the console clean etc. Has anyone else overcame the overheating issues or should I just purchase a new model?

I kept mine horizontal since I got it until I wanted to switch it up vertically and then I learned about this issue and placed my PS5 back horizontally.

I got silly question. Can we just replace the liquid metal with normal thermal paste?

I asked a friend of mine, who works at a game store, about the whole ‘dripping liquid metal’ thing and he said that one of the guys at the out-of-warranty repair place they use said one of the most common issues with PS5s is dry spots on the chips like this video states. The repairer thinks that most vertically placed moderately used PS5s, especially launch ones, probably have a lifespan of about 3 to 4 years before they’ll encounter dry spots on the APU. He thinks that Sony didn’t really plan for longevity with the design of the PS5. If this turns out to be true it won’t be a good look for Sony, especially considering that all of their marketing for the PS5 has it placed vertically. I’ve had mine for just over a year now and have it vertical due to lack of space in my entertainment unit. I’m curious to see if I run into any issues in the long term.

@CDRaff

Жыл бұрын

Have you forgotten the RROD? I was burning through 360s in months not years(I went through 5 of them all told), and I wasn't alone. Every single solitary person I know who had a 360 had at least one RROD. As long as a platform has good games, and eventually owns up to their mistake(MS denied the RROD problem for nearly a year) "gamers" will be very forgiving of that platform.

@MGrey-qb5xz

Жыл бұрын

tell your friend to inform people about attaching dust filters, any dust in the console would wreck the liquid metal and there will be thermal imbalance, L console

@MGrey-qb5xz

11 ай бұрын

@@CDRaff ps3 was worse

I’ve been watching your content for years, I’ve learned so much from your videos. Continue the great work!

@Tronicsfix

Жыл бұрын

Great to hear!

@TimidSylveon

Жыл бұрын

This guy honestly inspired me to learn soldering and I’ve fixed a tonne of stuff I would’ve just replaced since then. Hopefully more people get inspired to do this from these vids.

@marcusphoenixish

Жыл бұрын

My mate vince is also a great channel 👍

I’ve seen cleaner shop vac filters than that power supply air intake.

why would you put liquid metal on the heatsink and the APU? Isn't that too much which causes more issues

A dust clogged serially overheating console probably bakes the thermal interface material regardless of what it’s made of. You need to revive and re-spread it if it’s metal, or clean it off and replace it if it’s traditional grease. I can see the excess outside the two mating surfaces pooling over time towards one end, but not the material between those two surfaces due to capillary action and surface tension. My guess is that it’s a neglected console that went through many cycles of overheating until it was thrown away, instead of just being cleaned out. The oxidised spot is probably a result, not a cause, which is why sorting it made no difference but cleaning the ventilation and heatsink fixed the problem.

I posted this video on the PS5 Reddit and of course the mods removed it, the censoring on that sub is unreal. My day 1 PS5 died about two months ago, would just randomly shut down…..started happening more and more frequently until graphical afrifacts started so bad it was unplayable.

Yh I still have that bug where it switches of playing ps5 games so I need to give this a shot in the holidays when I have time

I use MX-6, Thanks!

Nice tutorial Steve. I think the best position for PS5 is in horizontal position rather than having in vertical one. Keep it up!

@princegroove

Жыл бұрын

That’s just your opinion, but show me the empirical data to back up your assertion.

@BRGKasumi77Main

Жыл бұрын

@@princegroove you can find it anywhere not from me, bro.

@12345.......

Жыл бұрын

@@princegroove consider the exhaust vent location and how heat rises

I was taught close to 30 years ago that if the thermal compound is being squeezed out you've applied too much. It's only there to bridge between the die and the heatsink and fill any gaps. Ideally the gaps should be as small as possible. When I started overclocking way back when I used to wet sand and micro-polish both surfaces to get them as flat and as smooth as possible and then apply the compound with the edge of a razor blade. Never a ridge of compound left after they were married together. I think people have gotten the misconception that thermal compound has some magical properties where more of it means more heat being pulled from the processor but that's just not what it does. As soon as liquid metal came around the first thing I thought of was the fact that it remains so fluid will mean it will have to flow away from where it needs to be. Now with the board being vertical and it's just got a gravity assist to drain away. The one thing I don't see anyone try here is to remove the liquid metal, thoroughly clean both surfaces and replace with something like arctic silver and then compare temps and stability. Too many people seem to be on the "if it's new it has to be better" bandwagon.

@Garage_gg

Жыл бұрын

Thermal compound has been tried and tested and its thermal conductivity is nowhere near liquid metal

@TheBreadSliceMaster

Жыл бұрын

Actually it's been tried. You can find it on youtube. Thermal compound overheats it and the ps5 turns off. It can't handle it. Liquid metal is the only way.

@Enjoymentboy

Жыл бұрын

@@TheBreadSliceMaster Oh...no dispute that thermal compound has less thermal conductivity than liquid metal does but it also has WAY less negative drawbacks. I've never had it run out and short anything out. I've never had it flow away and leave dry spots like shown here. I've never had to make it a routine to go back in and reapply or spread it out over and over. Frankly I think a bigger issue is the cr*p poor heatsinks and horrifically minimal venting they put in these things. So little mass to absorb the heat in the first place. But this is what happens when you employ designers instead of engineers. Get rid of the aluminium and put in much thicker and larger solid copper heatsinks and you'll be able to pull far more heat. I used to deal with with servers all the time when they would thermal and shut down. We had multiple xeons at one of my old jobs and once we replaced all the low mass aluminium heatsinks with copper (and did nothing else) the heat issue went away. It became a standard part of the builds we would do where thermal issues were a real concern. But copper is expensive. It's also a huge waste to use so much thermal compound or liquid metal if it is leaking/running out and not doing anything to facilitate the transfer of heat from the heat spreader to the heatsink. But it would seem people are happy to deal with a system that is plagued with thermal issues and dies because of them than to spend an extra $100. Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining about it. People can spend their money however they want, but it seems incredibly short sighted. And if you have to rely on something like liquid metal that means that you've overlooked something critical along the way. Then there's the foam tape they used as a stop-gap measure. That's honestly ridiculous for a company supposedly as advanced as sony. A full o-ring surrounding the die with a milled channel in the heatsink face would have fully contained the liquid metal and avoided all of these issues. But then that would have added cost and they know that most people would rather deal with a system with issues that costs less than one that is more expensive but lasts longer. Sony, and all the other console manufacturers, are playing their customers for fools and the customers just keep getting in line again and again. It's almost masochistic.

Seems the 1215a is a superior variant, cleaning is key. I am not the best with tech mind you. I feel the 1215a cooling Shown is the better way of cooling & life extending.

Nice Steve 😀

I've heard that easy fix is to keep your console horizontal all the time, so liquid won't move

@MGrey-qb5xz

Жыл бұрын

dust would still damage it , L console

@Herendill

Жыл бұрын

@@MGrey-qb5xz dust damage every equipement

@MGrey-qb5xz

Жыл бұрын

@@Herendill dust build up reduces performance, you have yourself a very fragile machine if it folds from dust

@Herendill

Жыл бұрын

@@MGrey-qb5xz dust damage machinery over time. Not right away

It shows again that Sony really cheaped out on the cooling, especially the heatsink, of the PS5.A nd as the consoles grow older, that problem will only get worse. Not an XBOX fanboy, but that thing stays cool at least. Guess they learned their lesson the hard way during the "Ring of death"-scandal with the 360...

@CrimsonGear80

Жыл бұрын

Liquid Metal is “cheaping out???

@Thommygun-qv7um

Жыл бұрын

@@CrimsonGear80 Indeed. Liquid metal is not that much more expensive than a decent thermal paste. Especially if you buy large amounts in bulk. And it is for sure way cheaper than a bigger thermal solution with more copper and aluminium. Rumors have it that Sony NEEDED the liquid metal as kind of an emergency solution after they figured out that the PS5 would overheat with that heatsink when using normal TIM. Also, the APU on the Xbox Series X is really similar. Why do you think Microsoft is using that massive vapor chamber if it would not be necessary? Also, that is not a new behavior from Sony. A have an OG PS4 and a phat XBOX One, sitting next to each other. You may have a guess which one runs cooler and more quiet... And to prove, that IO am not a fanboy (in fact the arguments above did not reach you), I like that Sony consoles for the easy and relatively cheap storage expension. Something the XBOX never really had... Also, I mostly use my PCs, which is also how I learned about cooling electronics properly.

@angelogalileo

Жыл бұрын

Hi could you tell us if your model is a 10000, 11000 or 12000 one? And if you have any crash issue (shut down with Only PS5 games) I'm suspecting a problem only with the 11000 one (I've 1116A) (it's written under the PS5) Thank you

@tyr573

6 ай бұрын

​@@Thommygun-qv7umits literally been proven by many people that xbox runs hotter wtf are you on about 🤣

I fix it is located 30 mins from my house! Pretty cool

I never understand how devices can get dusted up on the inside like shown in your videos, and others here on YT. I'm very lazy and only clean occasionally, but my devices never look like that lol

@christophluger793

Жыл бұрын

Probably depends where you live. In a city you have more dust than in rural areas. That's at least my observation since it gets dusty all around fast.

So glad you made a video about this. It's so blown out of proportion. The original user had it taken apart and I'm assuming used way too much liquid metal. I've had GPUs vertically mounted with liquid metal for years and not a single issue. That's why the foam is there lol. P.S. anytime you remove a high pressure heatsink, liquid metal and thermal paste will look like a dry spot as your pulling the interfaces apart. I've had direct die liquid metal, more intense heat, and it never dried after 3 years of water cooling.

@princegroove

Жыл бұрын

Facts! However, trolls will be trolls.

@Medsas

Жыл бұрын

he still recommends to have it horizontal tho 15:40

@princegroove

Жыл бұрын

@@Medsas That’s an opinion and not scientifically proven, genius.

@ekspatriat

Жыл бұрын

The foam won't stop a dry spot. Dry spots will absolutely cause 'hot spots'. My PS5 is going flat from now on.

@sebastianalhares

Жыл бұрын

Aren’t most boards in PC towers vertical anyway?

My problem is i hate to void the warranty sticker even though alot of people do it but if you send it to sony they have to void the warranty sticker when they take it apart too

Can this be due vertical console use?

with liquid metal usually less is more the amount you put on at the end is quite scary

@ravencrovax

Жыл бұрын

Even the initial 2 beads that he put on would have been more than enough for both the heatsink and chip. Also, he didn't even remove the old liquid metal from the chip and heatsink. To properly apply the new liquid metal, he should have used the old liquid metal or a small bead to get the oxidation cleaned off, then cleaned everything off, then used a very small bead of liquid metal on each surface and spread it as much as you can to cover the surfaces. This would create a good contact between the heatsink and chip with no risk of squeezing out liquid metal all over inside the unit. This is based on my expirence of delidding and using liquid metal on my old 6700k, 8700k, and watercooling my 3090 and I have never had any issues with liquid metal seeping out or degredation of parts in over 5 years of use.

@KkevrockK

Жыл бұрын

@@ravencrovaxoh wow…that’s way more experience then him hey?! Jeebus

@ravencrovax

Жыл бұрын

@@KkevrockK I never said that I was more expirenced than he was, did I? No. I just listed my expirence with using liquid metal on my own equipment. Also, just because someone has a lot of expirence with something, that doesn't mean that they are doing it in the optimal way. If someone is truely interested in learning about a topic or skill and sharing what they have learned with others, they should always be willing to listen to outside suggestions and take logical advice.

If my launch model doesn’t randomly turn off and have had no issues with it, you still think there is a chance it has a dry spot already purely from heat cycles?

@Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism

Жыл бұрын

That's what the man says. 16:20

@SimonSays-

Жыл бұрын

Launch model has larger heatsink and runs 3C cooler than newer PS5 (CFI-1100) so there is bit more headroom.

@6reen6uy

Жыл бұрын

I just don’t believe the liquid moves *that* much when pressed up against the heatsink, unless of course it’s been dropped. Especially with factory seal on xclamp I’m curious but not enough to open it.

@Tronicsfix

Жыл бұрын

Yes, I think there is a chance that it has one. No way for me to know for sure though.

I have a ps5 too. I was wondering how much u charger for a repair like this or just and repair on a ps5 in general? I haven’t had any problems with mine yet but in case I do I would like to send mine to you. Thank you for your time.

Surface tension between the APU and heat sink prevents the liquid metal from moving at all when PS5 is standing vertically.

As soon as I found out they were using Liquid Metal I was never going to have mine vertical.

I wished there was an easier way to clean a PS5 without almost fully taking it apart.

@86LukeM

Жыл бұрын

They have vacuum ports on the inner case. There’s two holes on the fan side, that to put a vacuum hose to. I use to use them, when I lived in a very, very dusty area with a dog.

Does this problem only occur with the original day one model ps5's? I have the god of war bundle, just curious if I can put mine vertical.

Fall or drop... Like in shipping?

The first reason of liquid metal leakage is the fact that sony put too much on apu and heatsink, if you simply suck it up a little and re-spread you will be absolutely fine.

@Tronicsfix

Жыл бұрын

I actually think that there isn't enough on them.

@christopherbolis2048

Жыл бұрын

@@Tronicsfix pobably you're right, but if there is the right amount i don't think it should run around when the clamp is attached, but maybe i'm wrong, after all i've only seen 5 ps5

@ravencrovax

Жыл бұрын

@@Tronicsfix I doubt it is a problem of too little. It is more likely that the contact patch between the heatsink and the top of the chip is either not completely flat or there is not enough pressure to keep the surface tension between the liquid metal on the two parts. Adding more liquid metal will just increase the chances of leakage on to other components, imo. A pressure map of the contact surfaces would be a much better starting point than just add more liquid metal.

@brunogm

Жыл бұрын

The allowed gap between barrier and die is too much. If it was halved then the amount of extra LM that could "leak" would lower. The other issue on oxidation is probably fail/ defect in the amount or time in production of the níquel barrier on the heatsink. Without níquel barrier LM or its main component Gallium will " soak up"/ diffuse in the heatsink leaving dry metals like indium, bismuth and so on. Gallium alloys need strong acids to break oxidation.

@UnBoundBeatz

Жыл бұрын

In the PC building circuit where LM was first introduced by Kryonaught for replacing the thermal paste between the CPU and IHS, less was more. Too much LM and you risked leakage. Part of the process was to coat the surrounding CPU solder with nail polish to prevent the LM from damaging components. Having a "dry spot" is indicative that the contact pressure between the APU and the heatsink isn't flush due to flatness or the heatsink isn't actually torqued down properly in the right places. Pushing it away from the die and creating the voids. You know there is too much LM on that APU because it's actually pooling around the APU. That extra LM is doing nothing for cooling.

If Sony and Microsoft intended to design consoles with the primary purpose of accumulating dust inside, they couldn't have designed consoles better that the PS5 and Xbox Series X. The vents on these consoles, when the consoles are stood vertically, are perfect for allowing dust into them. As soon as my consoles arrived, I was straight online looking for dust covers designed specifically for them. Just remember to remove the dust cover when using the console, because it's easy to forget, only to be reminded when the fan has to work so hard that you can hear it over the audio in your headphones.

@aad9108

Жыл бұрын

Xbox has no problems.

@patrickallen4374

Жыл бұрын

Yea both systems have issues. I have both. Especially when you have a limited area for them such as an entertainment center. The series x is a DUST MAGNET. I had to buy screens and a top for it that came with fans....now it runs cool as ice. The PS5 is much better dust wise... But I have fan vents with screens and an exhaust fan on it that keeps it cold too. Without all the accessories.... Ive never overheateded either.... But they have been way hotter than I was comfortable with. I've already replaced my series x once. It was a 1st gen..... Notable disc drive problem. New one seems to work better. I'd advise to purchase insurance on your machines. Saved my from buying the second x box. PS5 has been a champ the whole time

@majorasspain5341

Жыл бұрын

That's why Sony started letting us have access to the fan and part of the heatsink so we can clean them . They started doing this with the PS4 slim and pro. You can pop the top plates off and remove the fan to clean it and get some compressed air Into the heatsink to blow any dust out. Same with the ps5

@MGrey-qb5xz

Жыл бұрын

@@patrickallen4374 wait as in for when console is off or running, can you tell the name of thing u bought?

@ShaBoy-di3vl

11 ай бұрын

@@patrickallen4374how long you’ve had your ps5 for and is it still running good?