The first line in Genesis that was later removed by an editor... "You're not going to believe this".

The hosts explain some massive flaw in Andrew's reasoning. Andrew: I understand. Then proceeds to demonstrate that he doesn't understand one single thing

No one has lived pass 120.... except that One 😂 great argument dude

@Girlhead

4 жыл бұрын

LOL IKR.. and we all know that the bible refers to all beings- men and women- as "man."

If Noah really existed, his words to god would be: "We gonna need a bigger boat."

@duncanbryson1167

4 жыл бұрын

Came across a cartoon of Noah with the partly constructed ark in the background with his thought bubble containing "I can't believe no one else has a boat".

@markmehlhorn2836

3 жыл бұрын

That boat really was full of SHIT.....plus the world was repopulated with Noah's family typical INCEST Bible story. 🙄 SO WHAT'S THE POINT Grimm's Fairy Tales? 🤣😂

@TWANDTW

3 жыл бұрын

"Crazy weather!" Noah - 2500 BC

@FourDeuce01

2 жыл бұрын

The problem was a boat built of wood the size of the ark(in the bible) could not float.

@siim605

2 жыл бұрын

@@FourDeuce01 Oh there are a lot more problems than that.

"I wanna talk about Noah's Ark"...(Tracie, quickly)"OK" LOL! I was already laughing out loud for what was to come!

@petyrkowalski9887

Жыл бұрын

Lol..me too😂

da bible says… da bible says… da bible says…

@ralfhaggstrom9862

4 жыл бұрын

I say I say I say ................

@SHAKA-NEU-LU

4 жыл бұрын

Xyander Right! Why the fuck do they say that and that’s the only answer they have to give? It says it in the bible, but where is the evidence? This seems to to be the believers only source of “logic”, which none of these people seem to have

@Arkloyd

4 жыл бұрын

@@kentonbaird1723 The bible also allows for the conquest rape of preteen girls who have witnessed their entire family murdered down to the last baby boy and old woman. It's a disgusting book to base one's morality on.

@Arkloyd

4 жыл бұрын

@@SHAKA-NEU-LU They have to keep going back to their bible and they have to continue shitting on science otherwise they get no eternal life, and to christians, eternal life is worth worshiping an obviously evil god, and belivieng the stories in a book that claims that animals get their markings from what patterns their parents were looking at while they were rutting.

@Capybarrrraaaa

3 жыл бұрын

@@SHAKA-NEU-LU I don't think people realise that the bible is the claim, not the evidence

Painting a target around the arrow.. good one Tracie!

Whenever he says, "I understand" I am pretty sure he doesn't.

@Arkloyd

4 жыл бұрын

His eternal life hinges on him *not* understanding.

@camcam8995

Жыл бұрын

@@Arkloyd wel he thinks it does😂alot of people don’t acknowledge how really fucking scary to live in the real world with no savior in the sky that’s going to give us eternal life

@Arkloyd

Жыл бұрын

@@camcam8995 I got over my fear of my eventual nonexistence after death with a "thought experiment" while I was still a torturer worshiper, and before my biology education cemented that humans are simply animals with complex brains: I asked myself "What would happen if we're just like the animals and we don't have souls?" It took some thinking, but I came to the understanding that I wouldn't notice that I'm not in heaven and all ready to worship yahweh for all eternity, because my consciousness wouldn't be… anywhere. In that way: Seven year old me was much more brave than any lifelong torturer worshiper.

And . . . . . . How did the Pacific Ocean manage to be empty during the Flood, so that the water could go there afterwards? Andrew is not a deep thinker.

@seasonedbeefs

2 жыл бұрын

The trees

@glebealyth

2 жыл бұрын

@@seasonedbeefs Those things which prevent him from seeing the wood? Gotcha!

@seasonedbeefs

2 жыл бұрын

@@glebealyth the trees

@fbxx9845

2 жыл бұрын

@@seasonedbeefs- Sage advice Leo, forget the debate team.

@glebealyth

2 жыл бұрын

@Ysabel Love If the flood was global, the Pacific Ocean was already full. Much fuller than it is today, in fact. Therefore, the waters of the Flood could not drain into it, as suggested by the apologist liars.

"I opened the window" Gilgamesh XI,135 "Noah opened the window of the ark" Genesis 8:6 "The dove went out and returned" Gilgamesh XI,147 "sent forth the dove and the dove came back to him" Genesis 8:10b-11 "I sent forth a raven" Gilgamesh XI,152 "Noah... sent forth a raven"Genesis 8:7 "The gods smelled the sweet savor" Gilgamesh XI,160 "And the Lord smelled the sweet savor..." Genesis 8:21 "On Mount Nisir the boat grounded" Gilgamesh XI,140 "the ark came to rest upon the mountains" Genesis 8:4 "The cattle of the field, the beast of the plain" Gilgamesh XI,85 "clean animals and of animals that are not clean" Genesis 7:8 "into the ship all my family and relatives" Gilgamesh XI,84 "Go into the ark, you and all your household" Genesis 7:1 "pitch I poured into the inside" Gilgamesh XI,66 "cover it inside and out with pitch"Genesis 6:14 "And offered a sacrifice" Gilgamesh XI,155 "offered burnt offerings on the altar" Genesis 8:20 "I shall remember these days and never forget" Gilgamesh XI,165 "I shall remember my covenant...I may remember" Genesis 9:15-16 "he touched our foreheads to bless us" Gilgamesh XI,192 "And God blessed Noah" Genesis 9:1

@jtg1972

4 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂

@MrFernando81497

3 жыл бұрын

Ohhhhhh see you’re confused! Satan was able to create that story so he could trick people!!!!1111!!! (Sarcasm)

@mojobag01

3 жыл бұрын

That's Led Zeppelin levels of plagiarism!

@electricc437

3 жыл бұрын

​@@mojobag01 Massive OOF.

@steverichardson8080

2 жыл бұрын

Discovering the Epic of Gilgamesh and noting the obvious plagiarism by the writers of the Bible is what caused me to lose what little faith I had left

Tracie: "Where is your demonstration that a god exists?" Andrew: "I don;t understand."

... The oceans would have already been filled with water... Where did all the EXTRA water go?

@dx1450

5 жыл бұрын

It evaporated, duh.

@Arkloyd

5 жыл бұрын

It sank to the center of the hollow earth. Natch!

@ralfhaggstrom9862

5 жыл бұрын

UP andrews ASS .......................

@FreakinFred08

4 жыл бұрын

Jon Quist Flat Earther: Some of the extra water fell off the edges of the Earth. Some of the extra water has been collected by NASA and is being used to drown my brethren in secret.

"According to creation scientists" is not really making a good argument, FYI.

@steveg1961

Жыл бұрын

In fact, using the argument "According to creation scientists..." immediately discredits what is being stated, precisely we already know how creationists get everything about the science they're discussing wrong, through misreprentations, distortions, outright falsehoods, and often a sheer inability to comprehend basic logic in regard to the glaringly fallacious nature of so much of their argumentation.

@annk.8750

Жыл бұрын

@@steveg1961 This guy actually lives within five miles of me. I'll bet he's one of the slower members of the human race I'm likely to run into if I go to Walmart.

@steveg1961

Жыл бұрын

@@annk.8750 But sometimes I run into creationists who are quite intelligent. Their problem is that they're not smart, in regard to having bought into a circular reasoning belief system that what they believe MUST be "true" because "That's what God said" - so therefore any and all of the science that shows anything different must be wrong in some way. (That's the circular reasoning going on there.) By the way, I happen to work at a Walmart currently. ;-)

@petyrkowalski9887

Жыл бұрын

An oxymoron at its best

It's estimated that, if the Noah story were real, the Egyptian pyramids were constructed about 100 years after that event. So where did all those thousands of workers, who worked on building the pyramids, come from?. After all, wasn't everyone wiped out during the flood apart from Noahs family.

@MrKit9

5 жыл бұрын

Stop it! Giving christians facts is like giving rocks to babies for food.

None of those believers can answer any simple questions. Having so much fun listening.

My question about the "flood" is how did our atmosphere hold that much water BEFORE it started raining? Presumably it wasn't going back while it rained.

@YY4Me133

Жыл бұрын

The god opened the windows in the firmament, the windows that separated the waters above from the waters below. Sheesh, don't you know anything? 🤪

@petyrkowalski9887

Жыл бұрын

God left his bath running and forgot to turn it off

I love you, Tracie! and the way you let them go on after the 1st argument then shorten the rope.

poor andrew, severely damaged by indoctrination, thinks he can explain things using his favorite book of fairytales

@seanjones2456

5 жыл бұрын

Or by eating paint chips, dropped as a baby, kicked in the head by a mule, any of these are legitimate causes.

@MrKit9

5 жыл бұрын

@@seanjones2456 No he was just indoctrinated like a hundred million others.

@petyrkowalski9887

Жыл бұрын

Like millions of christians

im sure that back in bible days, someone lived to be like 60 years old, and many people died young, so people would say oh man that guy has been alive since my grandfather was alive and then it ballooned to 900 years. very much as the big fish story people tell.

@deanrao7554

5 жыл бұрын

The "big fish story" being that whopper about Jonah?

@DangStank

5 жыл бұрын

Nah, people have had continuously increased life expectancy from the very beginning. Back in the Bible’s time, people definitely didn’t averagely live to 60

@AndyPhillips101

5 жыл бұрын

Troy Barnes iiiii

@troybarnes9061

5 жыл бұрын

thats why, there was that one person who lived longer than everyone else. and to everyone as they told the story of this one person, it turned to 900 years....

@dx1450

5 жыл бұрын

There have been theories that the Genesis accounts were mistranslated and an extra 0 was added to those ages. So instead of living to 900 years, they might have lived to 90.

This person admits all of these things dont prove a god exists yet hangs it off a worldview. Accepting conclusions before you have positive evidence pointing to them isnt a worldview. Its a falacious state of reasoning. Faith is not a virtue

Didn't the ocean have water in them all along? Regardless of the volume of the oceans, the concept of a global flood is still ridiculous

@laydieelle7069

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah exactly. The "where did the water go?" doesn't lead to "into the ocean" because it was supposed to already BE an ocean.

@seanjones2456

5 жыл бұрын

But it's in the bible! Fart sound

@MrKit9

5 жыл бұрын

@@gowdsake7103 water tunnels....

@jg3865

5 жыл бұрын

None of this proves the existence of god.

@PinkBlue_Spood

4 жыл бұрын

What bugs me is that nobody thinks of the fish and what would have happened to them during and after a global flood. Any type of water, including rain water that makes up a global flood would completely alter the water parameters of any body of water. All fish survive in a specific set of parameters (temperature, ammonia, nitrate, nitrate, PH, GH, KH, mineral levels, salinity for saltwater and brackish fish, etc). A global flood would cause every single parameter to swing so drastically that it would kill so many species of fish, if not all of them. Yet the fish are perfectly fine, and we’re fine during that timeframe.

Callie, you're sharp as a tack! Hope we see you more! :D

For millions of years, there were lots of grunts, which gradually evolved into words. At the beginning there were no words, no spoken words and certainly no written words. Words such as 'let', 'there', 'be' and 'light', are all words invented by humans. The Word(s) of God is/are actually the word(s) of humans. Very recent word(s).

If there was a global flood, wouldn't all the oceans have been full during the flood? Where was the extra room in the oceans to contain all the other water? This argument is, as usual, brainless.

@MrKit9

5 жыл бұрын

Geez...Everyone knows that god put the oceans on a diet and they all went to Jenny Craig and made room for the flood water. Don't you know anything?

@mr.d.8121

4 жыл бұрын

That is a good point.

@joelonsdale

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, that argument just doesn't hold water .... ;)

How frustrating was that call?!? 😂

@dx1450

5 жыл бұрын

I liked how the second half of the call was the two hosts asking questions, and nothing but crickets from the caller.

@ralfhaggstrom9862

5 жыл бұрын

VERY !!!!!!!!! ...............

@trevor4188

5 жыл бұрын

No more than the vast majority of calls on this show.

@ralfhaggstrom9862

4 жыл бұрын

VERY frustrating ......................

That was just painful

Whenever one of these Genesis literalists call in, I feel just like Sean Connery's character in "The Untouchables", when they were at the police academy trying to find un-bribed recruits, etc. and they got to Andy Garcia's character, "Oh, please, don't waste my time with that boolshit!"

We know the sun moves across the sky each day. There must be somebody moving it. That must be a god. Therefore a god exists.

The most amount of rainfall was in Maryland. Bless him, lives in a shack.

The bible says that god created the day and the night, and THEN he created the Sun to reign over the day and the Moon to reign over the night. So the light thing was probably just because the author needed a reason for the day/night cycle to exist, even without the Sun XD

Complete the freaking sentence. "So what does that prove?"

Rain for 40 days and 40 nights? Thats normal in Scotland!!!! ....and we don't need boats....skin is waterproof!!

@markfindlay8636

3 жыл бұрын

Hello I'm here and it's raining !

Jeanne Calment born 21 February 1875 died 4 August 1997 was 122 years, 164 days old ... Sorry Andrew...

If the world was completly flooded from the lowest point to the highest point would be covered in water. There would be nowhere for the water to go.

So, there was a global flood, where did they get fresh water after the 40 days?, surely all the water would've been salt water.

@TheRedwater357

5 жыл бұрын

I think the term is "brine" when salt and fresh water mix, but I could be wrong and it doesn't change your point.

"Proving Noah's flood is difficult, but I'm trying". Clearly he's not. The amount of proof that completely destroys the notion Noah's flood happened is overwhelming.

"The Pacific Ocean is huge... It is really huge..."

Really going to miss Tracie

The Aboriginal Australians go back 70,000 years and are still alive in Australia.

This man is a genius!

@davewilliams5102

5 жыл бұрын

Another Graduate of Oral Roberts University

Thumbnail Callie got that classic anime pushing-glasses-up-the-bridge pose 👌

The guy is wrong in his first 30 seconds. He says that the fact that nobody after the flood lived to be more than 120 years old proves that the Bible is right. But Genesis 11 lists all the generations between Shem and Abraham born after the flood, and every one of them lived to be at least 120, all but one lived to be at least 200, a couple of them lived to be over 400, and Abraham himself lived to be 175.

The Pacific ocean didn't exist before the flood? Was the planet a desert before the global flood?

@jillum89

3 жыл бұрын

Well, the Bible says the exact opposite: the world was only water all the way back in gen 1:2, even before ‘let there be light’. And then came dry land on the third day. So yeah, the caller is completely backwards.

"Where did the water go? It went into the oceans." OK, but Genesis says that the flood waters covered the highest mountains by (IIRC) thirty cubits. Assuming the highest mountain was then as now Mt. Everest, that's still a lot of water that needs to be accounted for.

I agree, the fact that the first two chapters don't agree is very solid evidence against Yahweh as described in the Bible. I actually just heard this broken prohecy just two days ago, amazing it happened to have been on the show without me hearing it lol

I can prove Genesis, I saw them in concert.

Everytime that dude quotes the Bible, they should troll hin by citing Hindu creation myth. That might get the point across .

The beginning of Genesis? Like creating plants before sunlight. Ok, proof Genesis and take some plants into complete darkness and watch them grow...

What in the whippet huffing, weed injecting, GE mold free windows and door caulk eating kind of call was that?

Just wait pal, people are going to be living for a very long time very soon. Some of the people born today may never die.

So much ugh! in that phone call.

"The water went into the oceans". But weren't the oceans flooded as well? Where did that water go? C'mon people, think this stuff through.

So...... no evidence...... again :-)

@MilkAndHoney

5 жыл бұрын

Liam de Ste Croix never is. Never will be. We slowly get farther and farther away. :)

@Arkloyd

4 жыл бұрын

It's so annoying! So many videos promise proof of a god, and *none* of them deliver.

If you believe in a god , you can believe anything.

Caller really only proved one thing with his call. Maybe two if you count the fact he fails to comprehend the word evidence.

Also Also, this caller explains how Drumpf was elected...

@Multi1628

5 жыл бұрын

And a whole lotta stupid with no cure in Amurika...

From watching years of the atheist experience and challenging peoples belief's on you tube for almost as long . I'm convinced most people in the world are willingly chose a comfortable delusion over evidence , logic and reality . Which is very scary and detrimental to our future .

My argument: the Pacific ocean is like really huge

why did I watch whole of this and why was it painful?

Mariannas Trench, not Mariner's.

If a man lives past 120 years will this caller give up his belief? I doubt it.

So you're an atheist now right? Maybe it was glib but still priceless. This guy had stuff to think about after this call. Almost got me misty.

Why aren’t they pointing out his arguments are logically fallacious? Layers and layers of appeals to ignorance and circular arguments.

@MrKit9

5 жыл бұрын

Cause he wouldn't understand?

Cue Eye Roll - 8 seconds in.

Maybe, just tossing this out there, maybe those 900 year old people were actually cat people, and their ages were gauged in cat years.

If the entire world was flooded, that would include the oceans, to a depth above normal sea level to submerge the land. How then would there be room for all the water flooding the continents to flow to the oceans, if the oceans were flooded to the same height?

But the bible said !

@MrKit9

5 жыл бұрын

If the Bible told you to beat your slaves would you? One of my favorite line for christians.

This dude is a prank right? Some please hold me

This discussion really highlights the chasm between critical thinking and dogmatic thinking. The caller cannot even fathom a world where people don’t need to argue about the events in the Bible because there is a more fundamental problem. Great way to frame the issue!

N.O.A.H.S. A.R.K. Nebulous Oral Authenticity Hilariously Shown As Rudimentary Knowledge.

I think he calls in to run out the clock wow

There are very few flood myths in Africa as with Australia not all native peoples had a flood stories.

The "circle" of the earth in the Bible verse is NOT saying the earth is round like a ball. The Hebrew word for "circle" is literally a CIRCLE, which is flat. The verse is referring to the earth as a flat circular object, like a pancake.

Tracie was not having it. Lol

On that prism didn't the ages drop from 10s of thousands of years? ?

I’m 40 mins away from Twinsburg and I’m saying WTF?!

The oceans would have been flooded as well to the height of the mountains.

Okay did they just let the fact that he said there was light before the Big Bang they let that slide?

Oldest person ever. Share. The greatest fully authenticated age to which any human has ever lived is 122 years 164 days by Jeanne Louise Calment (France). Born on 21 February 1875 to Nicolas (1837 - 1931) and Marguerite (neé Gilles 1838 - 1924), Jeanne died at a nursing home in Arles, southern France on 4 August 1997.

It's always funny to see when Christians give science a try

Standardize your standards for evidence and you'll be amazed at the reality your peers experience.

According to science, the first person to reach 250 has already been born. Take that, Genesis.

@h.w.6563

5 жыл бұрын

Source, please? Sounds like facebook nonsense.

@h.w.6563

5 жыл бұрын

@@joewillburn Sounds like four times the facebook nonsense as the original comment.

@gunsspirits

5 жыл бұрын

@@joewillburn --- I'm not going to waste my time researching something you claim to have but won't reference. If it's so easy, cite it.

@gunsspirits

5 жыл бұрын

@@joewillburn ---- An Incredible claim requires an incredible amount of evidence. The claim that anyone alive today will live to be 1000 just doesn't have it.

@gunsspirits

5 жыл бұрын

@@joewillburn---- You didn't pass on some interesting information; you simply made a wild claim. And you're right. I'm not interested in investigating wild claims. Now about Bigfoot....

It's about time the Christians / Muslims fought back and made a show called,say, "the religious experience" and take calls from atheists, that would be fun.

The water could not go into the oceans, because the oceans were already there, so if the water would went into the oceans, the world would be still covered with water.

Abraham and Jacob lived far past 120 years, according to the same book, Genesis 🤦‍♂️

Follow up questions to where did the water go are where did it come from and how, exactly, did it more to and from the oceans. If your answer is god magic then just go with that and stop trying to make sense of non-sense by alleging you have evidence.

I'm very disappointed. He said he was going to prove Genesis. He didn't say anything about Lot's wife.

@tedgrant2

5 жыл бұрын

@Fragarach Not all of her, one assumes.

@seanjones2456

5 жыл бұрын

How about the Lot's daughters story! Whoa! Don't read that at sunday bible school.

this guy is only as deep as a pool of his own palaver, which he drowns in.

A boat 440 ft, x 150ft x75ft. It's very small. Compare that to the titanic and the titanic couldn't carry 7.77 million species of flora and fauna plus stores feed and water.

BTW, X-rays and radio waves are not "light." And if you read Genesis literally, God created light before he created the sun, stars, or any other source of light.

i guess this man has not read his bible, at the time of the tower of Babel, it has people living passed 500 years old. This is the account of Shem’s family line. Two years after the flood, when Shem was 100 years old, he became the father[d] of Arphaxad. 11 And after he became the father of Arphaxad, Shem lived 500 years and had other sons and daughters. 12 When Arphaxad had lived 35 years, he became the father of Shelah. 13 And after he became the father of Shelah, Arphaxad lived 403 years and had other sons and daughters.[e] 14 When Shelah had lived 30 years, he became the father of Eber. 15 And after he became the father of Eber, Shelah lived 403 years and had other sons and daughters. This caller's argument is melting fast than an ice cube on the hottest day in death valley

How could the Earth be covered with water up to the top of Mt Everest if there was this huge depression (pacific ocean basin) that the water could flow into. Andrew needs to run a tap in the kitchen and leave the plug out and watch what happens.

The fact that he could gloss over a womans age shows he doesn't want to get it right he wants to be right.

“Well who else would cause a global flood?” I would.😈

One word answer to refute the Ark "Kangaroo"

This guy's voice is really good birth control.

but the oceans were there before the flood and the flood raised the level of the oceans to cover the land, then the water couldn't have gone back into the ocean the land must have raised to come out of the water.

"The Hebrew word is Mabu which means there was a global flood," might just be the most glaring example of a non sequitur that I have ever encountered. The italian word is gato (cat) which means there *was* a bottle of schnapps missing from my parents liquor cabinet.

"Noah's ark isn't the easiest thing to prove" Gee I wonder why. -_-

Replace "The Bible says..." with "Tolkein's Silmarillion says..." and it works pretty much the same.