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A really intresting fact i remember about proto indo european : The specialists didn't reconstruct words for metals since in the many languages they are different roots ... Hinting that they probably didn't have blacksmithing ...
@C-Farsene_5
Ай бұрын
That said I have read papers that the suspected PIE culture, the Yamnaya spread out by introducing metalworking
@richotim
29 күн бұрын
@@brettforseth3276 well, it’s kind of not (though it could be incorrect). I’ve heard a theory the expansion was effected due to pack animals. You could expand through a series of migrations, and THEN develop metal … though I’d speculate they probably did have copper at least.
@RandomnessCreates
28 күн бұрын
@@richotim Yeah, definitely feels like it was a later on thing rather than the intial spread.
@richotim
26 күн бұрын
@@RandomnessCreates probably, but we can’t really know. We can only speculate. There was certainly some sort of expansion. What the bloke about metals said wasn’t crazy though; it’s a perfectly legitimate speculation.
@bobdole1105
26 күн бұрын
Hold up, you're telling me STONE AGE people didn't have metals yet?
You could say it was the PIE in-the-sky god.
@bradenswanson2653
Ай бұрын
This is amazing
@NovaSeven
Ай бұрын
👏🏼
@senmidesenmide109
29 күн бұрын
Genius
@josebravo5125
27 күн бұрын
Mmmmmm pie in the sky
@TheLyricalCleric
26 күн бұрын
Rolling eye emoji
Can we have a dedicated video on this topic introduced with all (atleast the ones recognised/discovered) gods from the proto indo European religion.
Crossover between an interest (science of religion) and my academic field (Indo-European studies/historical linguistics with an extended specialization in Indo-European) 🤭 Of course this is nothing new to me, but awesome to see it covered 😃
@silasfrisenette9226
Ай бұрын
If you ever need help with the linguistics of this, hmu! I'll be glad to help.
Really interesting topic!
Yep, they also track existing living languages like Lithuanian, my mother tongue. God is "Dievas" and sky is "dangus", they share a very similar origin or sound as some might call it. Same with fire being "ugnis" which is almost identical to other ancient languages, in this case sanskrit.
@rj9319
21 күн бұрын
I speak a pahadi language in the Himalayas. Good is Dyavta and sky is Dyo
@Bialy_1
6 күн бұрын
@@rj9319 I live next to Lithuania and God is "Bóg" and sky is "niebo" there is also "nieboskłon" that can translate as "sky" or "the heavens". Also in old Slavic times ach deity had its own name.
Very interesting. Thanks!
awesome content! please continue.
Jai guru deva OM
OwO! Deiwόs you say? OwO!
A little early for breakfast but never a bad time to learn about Sky Daddy🙌🏼
@PurpleRegina
Ай бұрын
Lol
Love that jacket
Imagine being the forgotten sleeping God who gets re-awakened by a KZreadr making knowledge of you prominent again...
If deus/dea etc. is rooted in PIE, what is the root of the germanic word “God”?
@samnjohnson
Ай бұрын
it’s not totally clear - it technically could derive from something like *ǵʰutós, which could be connected to Sanskrit hótar- “sacrificing priest” from the root *ǵʰeu- “pour out, libate”. If this is the case it would mean something like “one to whom libations are poured”. It could also be from the root * ǵʰeuH- “invoke”, as in “invoked one”. There just isn’t as much comparative evidence as deus that allows us to pin it down. The root of deus does survive into Germanic tho as *tīwaz, Old Norse Tyr.
@truecerium4924
Ай бұрын
@@samnjohnson Many thanks for taking your time for such a detailed answer, I really appreciate :)
@samnjohnson
Ай бұрын
@@truecerium4924 you are very welcome - i just love this stuff :)
@auzawandilaz6971
29 күн бұрын
@@samnjohnson Gapt or Gaut i would think
@samnjohnson
29 күн бұрын
@@auzawandilaz6971 based on what?
Interesting. "대" (dae) is the Korean word for Great/big. Daewoo, the company, is a Korean portmanteau for Great Universe.
@xXMACEMANXx
Ай бұрын
If I had to guess, it's probably related to the Chinese 大宇 (dàyŭ in Mandarin). That literally means "big universe"
@alhesiad
Ай бұрын
Dai means the same in japanese.
@daddyleon
Ай бұрын
That's probably a big coinsidence. Tooootally different language family. Currently Korean is considered to be largely unrelated to Japanese or Chinese or other Altaic languages. Language isolates are really really fascinating.
@victimclima
Ай бұрын
@@daddyleon it might be a coincidence, or it might hint to a motif carried from populations even older than PIE's
@PrimusProductions
Ай бұрын
Coincidence. It's really cognate with Chinese dà, Japanese dai and Vietnamese đại, all can be written as 大.
Is this why the WEF insists on meeting at Davos? like it probably has a different etymology but given that the attendees are typically indo-european speakers, does it give them even more feelings if grandeur.
Will you ever make a video discussing the topic
@tbq011
4 күн бұрын
The task of science is to deliver proven truths, not like nowerdays unproven theories that U have to refute with evidence. It's obvious that science, especially linguistics today, is corrupted by propagandistic dogmatic ideological pseudo-theories, like the Pseudo-Indo-european-theory!
Interestingly it's same in Hindu religion also.😮
so, "day", "deus", "god of the day"? 🤔😳
@xiuhcoatl4830
Ай бұрын
Yes, deiwos is the god of the sky, and literally the daylight
@ipand1011
18 күн бұрын
Kun (KZ) - Sun (UK)
I guess maybe that's the origin of the word deity
In portuguese God is Deus
Or maybe it was that God was associated with light, rather than the sky? As in the mystical non-dulistic traditions, rather than just a personified deity.
@silasfrisenette9226
Ай бұрын
It was specifically the daylit sky, but it is true that "light" was a specific association. The earth in many IE cultures are called "the dark one" or "the dark earth" which would be an amazing parallel to "the bright sky". The earth is of course also "the mother", while the sky is "the father", so the bright sky father and the dark earth mother (dark not as in bad/evil).
@chrysocolapteserythrocepha5915
Ай бұрын
▪︎Dyeus (Zeus, Tyr) - Day-sky god. ▪︎Welnos (Ouranos, Woden) - Night-sky god.
Indo European is thought to be the ancestor of most not all European languages and many on the Indian sub‐continent.
@Gab8riel
Ай бұрын
Also Persian
@rebeccaorman1823
Ай бұрын
@@Gab8riel true.
@hevnervals
27 күн бұрын
Yes they are original “aryans” Germany was on about.
@LunaDevaKitty
26 күн бұрын
@@hevnervalsKind of, they had a really simplistic view of them predicatbly, because they were stupid nazis. This is almost entirely because the early 1900s were the beginnings of interest in proto-languages and the history of reconstructive etymology, this is to say, nazis weren't the only ones going on about proto-indoeuropeans and they certainly weren't the ones to discover them.
@hevnervals
26 күн бұрын
@@LunaDevaKitty I don’t see your point. Seems like you’re making assumptions
But where did "God" and its comnection to Dieus come from?
@seanocarraigh7064
3 күн бұрын
english "god" ultimately came from PIE *ǵʰutós, which meant "a thing invoked (as part of an offering". eventually it became a word for any type of deity, and eventually, God
@kightsun
3 күн бұрын
@@seanocarraigh7064 I get that's the conjecture but that is seriously the only etymological history we know about it?!?
@seanocarraigh7064
3 күн бұрын
@@kightsun well deus actually comes from the PIE root meaning "sky"; there's an old anglo-saxon god named "Tiw" that is cognate with deus!
@kightsun
2 күн бұрын
@@seanocarraigh7064 again, technically conjecture. One I'm convinced of but conjecture non the less. Either way we can know what Deus means. It's odd that our much more commonly used term God is not as well known in regards to its history, meaning, and etymology
I'm pretty sure that its a hierarchical term. Like a leader that rules multiple kingdoms is an emporer. Its why the Egyptian rulers went from being deities to deity kings to kings. With the references to light and the common iconography of the most powerful being in the pantheon being symbolized with the sun I've taken the concept of deva, deus, whichever entomology you want to truly mean a being that is overflowing with energy like the sun. On a quantum level. Every aspect of their existence, referred to in Hinduism as chakras, are fully opened, aligned, and empowered. Taking into account science is the abstract examination of the natural world and science has the concept of quantum mechanics, the practical application of quantum mechanics would be the classical magic spoken of in mythologies.
Pseudo-Indo-european-hypothesis! Since years refuted, by ancient greek and its dialects.
That’s my issue with trying to describe African religions & deities with European words, like English. The context & meanings don’t match. There is no such thing as “Sky fathers” in African religions (example: if that is a sky-father, who is the sky-mother? Which exists in many African religions if not most. Ex: Onyame, Mawu, etc. Nevermind the fact many African religions blur the distinctions between monotheism & polytheism.
@puraLusa
26 күн бұрын
In pie u do have the duality of sky father and mother earth and a whole range of gods and deities. The monotheism arives as a semitic influence.
@johnw574
23 күн бұрын
Europeans don't currently have sky fathers either... your point makes no sense. It's just a rambling bitterness about European cultures.
Only jesus ❤
Have people done this for other languages and cultures?
@samnjohnson
Ай бұрын
yes - the methods of historical linguistics work wherever we have enough languages in a family attested to do the comparisons that reconstructions are based on. For example, I’ve spent a lot of time on Indo-European, but am starting to also learn about Proto-Algonquian and Algonquian languages.
@Gab8riel
Ай бұрын
Yeah, just Google major language families (I say major, because branches of a major family are also called families). Indo-European culture is probably the most studied, but no doubt that other proto cultures are also studied.
@somegnome3398
Ай бұрын
One very notable (and not entirely agreed upon) protolanguage is proto-Dené-Yeniseian. That’s the Na-Dené languages of North America and the Yeniseian languages of central Siberia.
Týr
Good video, but don't cinfuse😢historians for linguists
@ReligionForBreakfast
Ай бұрын
Yeah meant to say “historical linguists” 😭
And yet Greek kinda puts a spanner in the works, dunnit?
@WhyOhWhy123
7 күн бұрын
Nope. Theo, deo, deus, it's all related sounds.
@geraintdearnley4464
3 күн бұрын
Not really, they still have roots in proto indo European, their language likely just came about from mingling with the natives in and around Greece.
@Alice_Sweicrowe
3 күн бұрын
@@geraintdearnley4464 Y'all should keep up with current events in linguistics.
Dewuz wollt
in INDOnesia, we called it as „DEWA“ (masculine) and „DEWI“ (feminine) as supposedly to something that on par with „GOD“. some of minor beliefs did believing DEWA and DEWI as a linear part of celestial power before „the one true god“.
@shiltymilty
Ай бұрын
Yes, that's because we borrowed many Sanskrit words back in the pre-Islamic days
@chronikhiles
Ай бұрын
We still use deva and devi in Hinduism.
@justmoch8985
Ай бұрын
yep, a lots of hinduism still exists in Indonesia til now. I still remembered from elementary school history lessons, one of them was the name of „Bayu“ which if I’m not mistaken is the name of „God of Wind“ in which many parents still naming his Son „Bayu“ now, usually middle child for somehow. 😅
@shiltymilty
Ай бұрын
@@justmoch8985 "bayu" simply means "Wind", if I remember it correctly. Indeed, Bayu is also the name for the god of wind, but that's because he is the god *OF* wind.
@mindcontrol737
12 күн бұрын
Because of Indonesia's golden age The hindu empire called Majapahit empire
Europeans are definitely from India great job
@user-ms6ue6bj4b
26 күн бұрын
🧢
@-rate6326
11 күн бұрын
Everyone is from Africa then India. It's Himalayan region at work.
@ScroogeMcWhat
11 күн бұрын
@@-rate6326 for a long time they believed that what they could find of the Egyptian civilization was from India but it’s not
How did we get from Deiwos to Nāṯar in ancient Egyptian ??? Does it come from another PIE word or another proto-language ?
@xiuhcoatl4830
Ай бұрын
Egyptian is semitic, not IE
@Gab8riel
Ай бұрын
Egyptian is Afro-Asiatic, but it could be a loan word
@rebeccaorman1823
Ай бұрын
We didn't. Egyptian isn't an Indo-European language. Linguists theorize that all languages probably go back to an original first language. However, they can't trace them back further then various big language groups such as Indo-European, Semitic, Austro-Asiatic ect.
🕊️🧘🏼🌲Not truth. Deus is devil and asurah is angels and paganism is martial exorcist devil centered worship. Dao quickly come, ah! ❤️🔥👻👻🙏
German and Indian ate nothing alike
Believe in Jesus. Pray the rosary daily and you will find that peace that defies understanding quickly 🙏🏾🙏🏻🙏🏽
@ohiorizzler1434
4 күн бұрын
believe in gyatt
AIT BS
@xiuhcoatl4830
18 күн бұрын
no
@-rate6326
11 күн бұрын
@@xiuhcoatl4830 AMT isn't bs. AIT is bs. Schoolar have discarded ait.
No need for reconstruction. Have you read the American heritage dictionary?
Who cares?
@GodlessCommie
Ай бұрын
why the aggression?
@pingpong5877
Ай бұрын
I do. I'm using this knowledge to help with my creative writing.
@jmfana9154
Ай бұрын
The true history of the people
@arta.xshaca
Ай бұрын
Weird name. Knock off, orb
@faithfultrue6796
Ай бұрын
You ask why the aggression and get ten thumbs up...? Proof your audience is as worthless as you.
Ancient sky daddy