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@SayNoToDemocide1

29 күн бұрын

I address right-wing Christians in my video "Is it possible to be a Right-Wing Atheist?" A few examples of arguments I make are to show atheist nations or at least secular states that hold values that right-wingers have. For example, Japan being strict on immigration and a tough-on-crime law and order society, and Singapore being a strict law-and-order society. Or the Czech Republic and Estonia, which are strict on immigration, and have pretty permissive weapon laws by European standards, having shall-issue licenses to own semi-auto rifles, shotguns and pistols, and having shall-issue licenses to conceal-carry firearms. Czechia is also very permissive towards non-firearm weapons (other than maybe tasers), such as knives, police batons, and pepper spray. I've also pointed out how recent age of consent laws are, and that until a few years ago actual child marriage was legal in many U.S. States. I also have a complementary video aimed at fellow atheists on how to deal with right-wing Christians. One doesn't have to agree with their opponent's values to appeal to them. A problem I see with religion in politics now is contrarianism. For example, right-wingers identifying as Christian and violating scripture such as wishing ill on their opponents. This has been talked about by Lauren Southern and a guy whose video I reuploaded. Over all, I'm tired of sociopolitical echo chambers.

@JonManProductions

29 күн бұрын

Hmm, since you have done this wonderfully clickbaited video on the concept of Projection, could we possibly get a video on more research done on how politics and religion effect each other with other religions beyond Christianity?

@PrivateSi

29 күн бұрын

Before I even watch this I have to congratulate you are the perfect clickbait title to pull in USian viewers! I look forward to watching as I like your pretty unbiased approach to religious information and analysis.

@shzarmai

29 күн бұрын

Who would the Prophet Muhammad vote for? and who would Buddha vote for??

@joshuataylor3550

29 күн бұрын

​@@shzarmaihonestly, none of them could even conceive of a democratic vote.

Jesus would TOTALLY agree with everything I say and do...

@lakrids-pibe

29 күн бұрын

Buddy Christ gives you a thumbs up

@arnulfo267

29 күн бұрын

"Look, there's some Bible verses where Jesus says things that somewhat sound like my political ideology".

@dr.victorvs

29 күн бұрын

​@@arnulfo267"and if there aren't, I'll point out to when he allegedly said that the old testament was valid as well and find something THERE that agrees with what I say, even if it conflicts with an explicit Jesus teaching".

@chompythebeast

29 күн бұрын

"God told me this is my land so actually geno side is ok for me! Anyone who disagrees is a bigot"

@azazel166

29 күн бұрын

Jesus' will is always what my will is.

He'd run as an independent and end up crucified by both parties

@divideby4billion

24 күн бұрын

Funny you say that... because the same people responsible for Jesus' crucifixion are the same people sponsoring both parties.

@JosephWolfson

24 күн бұрын

@@divideby4billionthe Romans?

@divideby4billion

24 күн бұрын

@@JosephWolfson heh heh, good guess; think to who was constantly badgering the romans to persecute Jesus. Think to what religious order they belonged to.

@JosephWolfson

24 күн бұрын

@@divideby4billion the high priests

@JosephWolfson

24 күн бұрын

@@divideby4billion also, bud, I’m Jewish, as was Jesus.

I think if you asked Jesus a question about today's modern politics, he would give you a response in the form of an elaborate side story which would make you question what were your motives for asking this question to him in the first place.

@DavidJamesHenry

27 күн бұрын

Yeah the man loved to answer questions without answers

@UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana

24 күн бұрын

Probably with a violent/controversial meaning, which cannot be said bluntly, because humans are drama queens 👸.

@gjhartist3685

24 күн бұрын

He loved his metaphors and allusions!

@Idkpleasejustletmechangeit

23 күн бұрын

He's more concerned with killing a random tree than with whatever this "Mexico border" you're talking about is.

@jeremymcfly9508

23 күн бұрын

If you asked Jesus a question he probably wouldn’t understand you because he speaks Aramaic and English didn’t exist yet in that timeline. He probably wouldn’t be able to comprehend the level of technology we have now let alone our politics.

"My concern is not whether God is on our side, but whether we are on His" - Abraham Lincoln

@nothing26375

15 күн бұрын

That's good one

@McLovin_2007

9 күн бұрын

Democrats want secularism. They are not on God's side.

the classic phenomenon of "famous person from long ago agrees with me completely, and therefore my opinion is more valid than yours"

@azazel166

29 күн бұрын

Since I believe in Him, He agrees with my ideology.

@monsieurdorgat6864

29 күн бұрын

Yes, the person from a completely alien society said this one thing which, I repeating out of context, will use to validate my point!

@MissRora

29 күн бұрын

"God is a liberal, God is a Democrat, God wants you to vote Republican" -Aurelio Voltaire, "God Thinks"

@Testimony_Of_JTF

29 күн бұрын

I mean God agreeing with you is very important from what I know.

@comicomment

28 күн бұрын

even better: "famous person I invented"

As an illegal immigrant, he'd be unable to vote 😊

@alesanchez87

29 күн бұрын

Best answer so far.

@LarryInNM

29 күн бұрын

Even if he were here legally he can't vote if he is not a citizen and registered, and only humans can vote, not gods.

@rawrsince718

29 күн бұрын

This is one of the issues with comparing timelines. Jesus was not a citizen of Rome so he couldn't vote, but he was a citizen of the Roman Empire. He is quoted as saying, "Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's," which would be approval of the taxes that Judaea had to pay to the empire.

@luisoncpp

29 күн бұрын

@@rawrsince718 there is another dimension to that parable: the coins were considered idols, so just carrying those coins in the temple could be seen as a blasphemy.

@BenjaminExequielReyesGaete

29 күн бұрын

XD

Anyone who says Jesus would support the death penalty doesn’t know anything about Jesus.

@Enden31

23 күн бұрын

Like... The way he died (1st time)

@FleurPillager

18 күн бұрын

@@Enden31 and the way he preached about mercy and turning the other cheek.

@peestrem31

17 күн бұрын

"Whoso sheddeth the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed" -Bible

@shaansingh6048

15 күн бұрын

@@FleurPillagerand how he literally saved that one prostitute from the death sentence

@theintelligentmilkjug944

14 күн бұрын

Same with abortion.

So I suppose asking “What would Jesus do?” is a much more complex question than my bracelet I had in the 90e seemed to imply.

@alexrothwell2053

13 күн бұрын

It certainly rules certain things out

"And Man said, Let us make God in our own image, after our likeness."

@ecurewitz

29 күн бұрын

And there was much rejoicing

@josephkoester3217

29 күн бұрын

And let Him have dominion over those who disagree with me

@carloswater7

28 күн бұрын

Yep, Man said that.

@playdischord1791

26 күн бұрын

@@carloswater7Was he stupid?

@carloswater7

26 күн бұрын

@@playdischord1791 Probably

Normally would stay far away from this content, but given the creator let's give it a go!

@richardwatson5437

29 күн бұрын

My thoughts exactly

@INXS1985

29 күн бұрын

Was just telling my mom, “no this guys a theology student, this’ll be good”

You see this a lot in art!!! How Christians have depicted Jesus artistically has never tried to be accurate, it’s always reflected the thoughts and feelings of the Christians in that society.

@billdecompsa4705

6 күн бұрын

Except never in its entirety has Christian art reflected the society's thoughts and feelings, you can easily go from a cstholic church in western Europe to an orthodox one in Eastern Europe and would find very little difference. What you might be talking about Is how many cultures depict Jesus as white. But can you give me some evidence that they have NEVER depicted Jesus accuratly? Christian art has always been universally recognizable going from culture to culture, so what exactly do you mean by this statement of absolutes.

I think Jesus would find modern politics sinful because of all the corruption of lies told by various politicians

@nothing26375

15 күн бұрын

Right

@nothing26375

15 күн бұрын

True

I'm here for the civil and well-articulated comments

@QuantumHistorian

29 күн бұрын

I've got popcorn, want to share?

@richardwatson5437

29 күн бұрын

Haha, yes!

@janvanhoyk8375

29 күн бұрын

the long time viewers will be great and the people attracted just for the title will be monstrous lol

@ShirleeKnott

29 күн бұрын

@@QuantumHistorian

@wildlightarts

29 күн бұрын

🤣

Oh buddy the can of worms you’re about to open (I’m so excited)

@Robbiebert14

29 күн бұрын

Lol that was my first thought! Dipping his toes in some spicy water! 😋

@Windrake101

29 күн бұрын

Eh. The internet is a much bigger place these days. Anybody who would likely start a flame war is off in their own private channels, whispering sweet evil things about "them others peoples" there. KZread comment sections are more segragated now then in time past where any mention of Politics/Religion lead to muti-paragraphs flame wars.

@derekstaroba

29 күн бұрын

WWJD

@Ethan54136

29 күн бұрын

I, too, came straight to the comments before watching the video lol

@PandoricaLost

29 күн бұрын

Lol, first thought that popped in my head also. 😂

It's a worthwhile question, because Jesus would undoubtedly choose to live in Las Vegas to address the amount of sin that takes place there, and as a Nevada resident, he'd be voting in a swing state.

@coolkorners181

24 күн бұрын

Vegas locals 🤝

@bagthecadran

23 күн бұрын

I would think he’d probably live in Palestine or Israel considering that’s the land he’s from.

@AmericanIdiotPolitics

13 күн бұрын

yall need to vote trump lol

@coolkorners181

13 күн бұрын

@@AmericanIdiotPolitics Name checks out

@jacobwest4771

8 күн бұрын

@@bagthecadran If the question is whether he'd vote R or D, then he would have to be a US citizen.

Thumbs up for ground news. Been using them for the last few months. They make it super easy to identify bad information and outlets and avoid your own biases while evaluating current events.

Least controversial video title

I think we can all agree that Jesus strongly would disapprove of the existence of Arbys.

@ReligionForBreakfast

29 күн бұрын

What about their jamocha shake?

@hive_indicator318

29 күн бұрын

Not only jamocha shakes, but curly fries! He'd have to respect that

@rainbowkrampus

29 күн бұрын

@@hive_indicator318 Transubstantiation through a curly fry... maybe I'd still be going to church if that was the body of Christ.

@lakrids-pibe

29 күн бұрын

So would Pythagoras, who was what we today would call a raw-food vegan. Edit: He would also isapprove of Arbys. In case it wasn't clear.

@wendyleeconnelly2939

29 күн бұрын

The real question would be his disapproval of Chick-Fillet

so fascinating ! and your voice and energy in the dialogue makes this even better! thank you and keep doing these videos....it looks at these topics from a different lens -- -we need this!

Mad spicy title. Was waiting for you to drop something and it is straight heat

If you asked him he'd probably tell you a parable about how neither side really helps the people and you're asking the wrong question. 😆

@eldritch3465

29 күн бұрын

So are you disillusioned with both political parties?

@crane8819

29 күн бұрын

I guess. Politically I'm more like Treebeard: I'm not altogether on anybody's side because nobody is altogether on my side.

@wendyleeconnelly2939

29 күн бұрын

@@eldritch3465 and/or familiar with Jesus' preference for parables

@chompythebeast

29 күн бұрын

Anti-imperialist Jesus

@trombonegamer14

29 күн бұрын

I'd probably tell him that that's a major oversimplification. We're facing one of, if not the, hardest challenge humanity has ever seen in climate change, and one side staunchly refuses to even acknowledge its existence.

Weird. In my social history class in highschool they asked us to present a research project on any social topic we would like. What I presented was basically this field of study applied to ancient cultures (mesopotamia, greek, rome, medieval catholicism). I even ended the presentation saying, "I would like you to ponder, do we shape our religions according to our society or is our society shaped by our religions?" I was 15 at the time and didnt even knew that this was actually studied in academic research, but I was already huge religions nerd at the time. 😅

@MaryamMaqdisi

29 күн бұрын

Neat!

@azaria5419

29 күн бұрын

I think it's fair to say that religion shapes society more than the other way around. Ie the Protestant Work Ethic created capitalism

@heterian97

28 күн бұрын

@@azaria5419 I would say so too. Actually, Weber's book on Protestant Ethics and Capitalism one of the first academic books on religion that I read. It really helped me to see how religion was more than belief, and how it could change and affect society in such an intricate manner.

@azaria5419

28 күн бұрын

Great. Out of curiousity did you study the subject in college? Would feel great to know someone with formal education on the topic also agrees

@arturogonzalez-barrios8206

25 күн бұрын

​@@azaria5419 you could say it's a feedback loop between environment and ideology. Environment creates rules for survival, these rules reinforce a worldview which then is no longer supported by the environment. I guess that's what the ban on pork was, it spoils too easy in the middle east, thus unfit. Also the Fremen on Dune show how environment influences ideology and ideology loops into itself.

Wow great video I was just talking about this the other day! Thank you very much for making this video!!

Fantastic video as usual, thank you.

When I saw the title I hoped, knowing the channel, that the given answer would be that we couldn't possibly know bc he lived in a different context, and that it'd be instead about how it's more a politically motivated question than a theological one - glad to see it was that and more!

@ShirleeKnott

29 күн бұрын

👍👍👍👍👍

@drownedzephyr

14 күн бұрын

This is so sad. Living in a different context should not change your view on things. The only reason people think this is because the right is very reactionary. And since both the GOP and DNC are mostly right wing, people tend to ignore real leftism. Your politics should be based off of your morals and therefore should be very predictable. Which is why Jesus, in theory, would hold beliefs of kindness and love. In short, Jesus was a socialist.

Well, Jesus he knows me. And he knows I'm right. I've been talking to Jesus all my life! He's been telling me that everything is all right.

@Pangui008

29 күн бұрын

I wonder what's the origin of that way of thinking... I mean, it's etiology, it's beginning, it's gene--- oh! ;)

@TheBfutgreg

29 күн бұрын

Yeah well HE's been telling me that everything is alt right

@garanceadrosehn9691

29 күн бұрын

It's good to see people returning to Genesis.

As always, very well presented and good scholarly reference. And, way to dance a fine line LOL

Full honesty, I cracked up laughing when I saw the title to this video. Hoo boy is this going to get messy in the comments.

@ReligionForBreakfast

29 күн бұрын

YUP

@xxiloveitallxx

29 күн бұрын

​@@ReligionForBreakfast so just how many comments have you had to delete for absolute batshittery? You're braver than me for sure!

@QuantumHistorian

29 күн бұрын

@@xxiloveitallxx I find this channel normally has very articulate and sensible comments. It's the reply to those comments where the nutjobs hang out.

@bannanaboy8

29 күн бұрын

Yeah I was so surprised to see this sort of video on this channel, but the content is totally on brand: balanced, academic, and well thought out.

@MicaiahBaron

29 күн бұрын

@@QuantumHistorian That's definitely thanks to the moderation, let's be real.

I'm so glad you covered the causal direction issue. I was about to throw in a comment making the same point about 1 minute before you got to it in the video, but I decided to give you a chance, and you did not disappoint! That's one of the reasons I love your channel. You do an excellent job of covering opposing views. Keep up the great work!

@ReligionForBreakfast

29 күн бұрын

Yeah it was an issue that came up several times in the study, so it was definitely on their mind.

Great video as always RFB

Johnny Cash told us this ages ago “your own personal Jesus”

@kingdavid7516

28 күн бұрын

that's actually a Depech Mode cover, and the original writer wrote the song to mean you can be someone's personal jesus. not necessarily in a religious or sacrilegious way, but "someone who's there".

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28 күн бұрын

​@@kingdavid7516there."

@billdecompsa4705

6 күн бұрын

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I think he’d just be shocked that the world didn’t end yet

@Alverant

29 күн бұрын

Don't worry. His minions are working hard to do just that.

@imaadhaq540

28 күн бұрын

"I think it's time to come back..."

@ssesssusman9417

25 күн бұрын

Why would he be shocked?

@thescoobymike

25 күн бұрын

@@ssesssusman9417 he thought it would end in his lifetime or at least the lifetime of his disciples

@darklion451

24 күн бұрын

He knows when the world ends??? Why would he be suprised

Jesus wouldn't vote, but he would start lots of food sharing mutual aid centers, and show up to the presidential debates with a whip.

@jameswheeler5260

29 күн бұрын

I think he would vote. Biblically speaking, he did teach about the importance of civic responsibility, at least insofar as taxes are concerned. Probably wouldn't be willing to volunteer who he voted for, though.

@oceanusprocellarum6853

29 күн бұрын

​@@jameswheeler5260 I don't think there's really a basis for 'the importance of civic responsibility' as a virtue. Rather, it reads more as not incurring undue trouble with the structures that rule above you. In general, this fits better with the larger movement of apocalyptic Judaism that Jesus was most certainly a part of: the systems and structures of this world are temporary and worthless. They will soon be washed away and replaced by the eternal kingdom of god, the true kingdom to which we belong. But until then, we must simply endure in our foreign land, even if it means paying taxes to someone who is not our true ruler. He might have viewed voting somewhat favorably as it is a means by which to lessen the present suffering of the faithful while waiting for the coming kingdom of god, but there would probably still be there general apocalyptic skepticism+apathy ('don't expect too much, the nations of this world are ruled by forces of evil' that sort of thing). And I definitely don't think it would be a matter of virtue or loyalty to the state.

@chompythebeast

29 күн бұрын

He's just like me fr

@rebeccaanne9863

29 күн бұрын

I think you’re just saying that to increase viewership of the presidential debates.

@andrewnordstrom3565

29 күн бұрын

@@jameswheeler5260 do you think it's fair to say that the bigger context of the "render unto Caesar" passage is that Jesus was pro-civic duty? I read Mark 12:13-17 as a whole much more that the things of earth are insignificant in the greater context of eternity. And that He phrased verse 17 to outsmart the Pharisees who were trying to anger either the Roman occupation or the Jewish resistence.

very good video, I love your approach to the issue

Thanks this is exactly the video I was supposed to see.

This is like asking if he would have voted for the Romans or the Temple Priests.

@MaryamMaqdisi

29 күн бұрын

Go priests!

@Dinofaustivoro

29 күн бұрын

YES THIS

@garydeforve5055

29 күн бұрын

What would be the plan to replace those entities had he been successful? Who was in charge before rome conquered Judea? Wouldn't they go back to that?

@loganleutwyler

29 күн бұрын

​@@garydeforve5055 Herod the Great's family ruled Judea before the Romans conquered it from his son. Herod and his lot also wasn't really liked by the Jewish populace for not being an ethnic Jew (Herod later converted and rebuilt the temple to gain favor with the Jews but it wasn't successful), but an Edomite. If Judea came back fully under Herod's family's control, there probably still would have been many rebel groups like there was under the Romans. Even then, whoever was controlling Judea still would of been a client of Rome unless they wanted to be reconquered by the Romans. So pretty much the Romans would still have a hand in the affairs of Judea no matter what.

@jsmcguireIII

29 күн бұрын

@@MaryamMaqdisi The temple leaders were deeply corrupt. Read Mark 11:15

Consider the political diversity of the men He called to be His apostles. On the one hand you have Matthew who is collecting taxes for the Roman government. On the other had you have Simon, a zealot who wanted to rebel and fight against the Romans. I'm sure Matthew and Simon had some interesting discussions.

@wes4736

29 күн бұрын

If you wanna see some creative writing that does more than just quote the Bible and also doesn't go out of it's way to be blasphemous, might I recommend the Chosen? There's a couple of scenes between Simon and Matthew I actually really enjoy, they get at the angle you're talking about a little bit.

@mollof7893

24 күн бұрын

Wholesome

He would say, "Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's."

Neither. He wouldn't participate in man's kingdom, he would be preparing for his father's kingdom.

OMG! Is that a Lego Great Pyramid in your background? No, it's not my big takeaway, but it's still too cool.

@ReligionForBreakfast

29 күн бұрын

It is indeed!

@MisfitKotLD

29 күн бұрын

@@ReligionForBreakfast awesome! Great work on the video, too!

@reddevved

29 күн бұрын

it's a cutaway half pyramid if you want to get one, if you want a full pyramid you need 2 sets and ikd if they still stock it

@MisfitKotLD

29 күн бұрын

@@reddevved Good to know, but it's still awesome.

"If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn't help the poor, either we have to pretend that Jesus was just as selfish as we are, or we've got to acknowledge that He commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy without condition and then admit that we just don't want to do it." - Stephen Colbert

@ziploc2000

29 күн бұрын

Or we can pretend that people are deliberately poor/homeless, and don't really want to be helped.

@chompythebeast

29 күн бұрын

Jesus looking at 16 million+ unoccupied homes and 30-40% of all food brought to market being thrown out like "where did I put that whip..."

@andrewnordstrom3565

29 күн бұрын

Stephen Colbert is not a valid source for how Jesus would act. Neither is my opinion or your opinion. If it's not from the Bible, it literally has no bearing on this question.

@Rynewulf

29 күн бұрын

@@andrewnordstrom3565calm down the Bible isnt even from the lifetime of the Apostles, let alone Jesus. It took a few centuries and several councils of bishops to decide what books were officially confirmed or not, and it was entirely a man made decision not something Jesus passed down in any way

@chompythebeast

29 күн бұрын

@@xunqianbaidu6917 This sounds like a capitalist version of a Hasbara take lol, it's ridiculous

This was good. Thanks!

Jesus wouldnt vote, he would be spreading the good word.

...This title is one of the most american sentences I've ever heard (or rather: read). As a non-american, it always amazes me anew how often I say that...

@jameswheeler5260

29 күн бұрын

Yep, we definitely do now how to drive internet engagement. The "likes and comments" cup on this one is going to overflow.

@lowenzahn3976

29 күн бұрын

In my country (Germany) I don't recall anyone ever publicly posing the question "Would Jesus vote SPD, CDU/CSU, FDP, Greens, Linke, AfD, Volt, or die PARTEI?" in my lifetime.

@MaryamMaqdisi

29 күн бұрын

​@@lowenzahn3976hopefully anything but AfD, heh

@leifcasanova3097

29 күн бұрын

@@jameswheeler5260add a k

@solar0wind

23 күн бұрын

​@@lowenzahn3976 Also from Germany, and that sounds hilarious. Have never heard this question either.

Jesus would vote for Vermin

@chompythebeast

29 күн бұрын

Supreme!

@ssesssusman9417

25 күн бұрын

VERMIN SUPREME 24!!! ❤❤❤🎉

@egg_bun_

24 күн бұрын

Absolutely

@Kaede-Sasaki

20 күн бұрын

Lord buckethead in the 🇬🇧

Such a ridiculous premise for a video! So I def had to watch lol 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

A very interesting take!

Would The Holy Spirit be an FPS gamer or an RPG gamer?

@alexandergutfeldt1144

29 күн бұрын

Definitiv NPC!

@wes4736

29 күн бұрын

Sims, for familiarities sake.

@rida-18

28 күн бұрын

​@@wes4736You have me laughing so hard man🤣🤣🤣

@Llortnerof

25 күн бұрын

Probably mostly eroges. All about coming into people, you know.

@UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana

24 күн бұрын

Probably a demonic-style game where you control someone's actions with your own intentions rather than who you are allegedly playing as. Since the Holy Ghost controls his vessels virtually completely, including being able to speak his own words directly. Like EU4 or CK3. Basically any game where your intentions in game have nothing to do with what you are controlling wants to do.

You clever Son Of A-click baiting me to watch a video about the concept of Projection and how it effects people and the way they process their political and religious beliefs based on recent research done by sociologists. The best clickbait I've seen all week XD

Hey, new sub here. love your vids. Can you include more of the books you read in preparation for these videos and where you typically find them? Thanks, keep it up!

I really liked this episode and think it was a good meta discussion about the question itself and what our individual answers mean. That being said, I honestly do want to see framing from a textual lens. Maybe doing a political compass on “behalf” of Jesus with the rule that you have to have two red letter citations for every choice in the quiz.

very thought provoking video , thanks as always

Great video with excellent varying viewpoints. Your presentation is so well done, sir.

@ShirleeKnott

29 күн бұрын

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😮 Very interesting, thank you! 😃

Would've skipped this one from any other channel, but you did not disappoint. I hope this video catches some momentum outside your subscriber base, since the kind of people who would click on these titles really need to hear what this video has to say.

This has to be a late April fools video

OMG. Put on your asbestos suit, folks. These can comments are gonna be fire…. dumpster fire. 😅

Pretty sure Jesus would be a convicted felon for the money changers incident.

Along a similar but different line, I would really love to get your take on Costly Signalling Theory. I've only just learned about it and have been reading up. Surprisingly, I learned about this from a KZread video titled, "How Dune Gets Religious Psychology Exactly Right", speaking about the new sci-fi series based on Dune. The video is from Genetically Modified Skeptic. I've always enjoyed your videos. Between you and UsefulCharts, you're a great resource. Cheers!

That people construct the ideology of authoritative figures (with unknown views) to match their own ideology must be the least surprising sociological result since that survey asking about the preferred defecation locations of the Ursus genus.

Jesus: "What you mean democracy?😮"

@rainbowkrampus

29 күн бұрын

"WTF kind of nonsense have you guys been getting up to? Anyway, time for monarchy!"

@chompythebeast

29 күн бұрын

Then looking at our "democracy" He'd just be vexed

@chlorophyllphile

29 күн бұрын

​@@rainbowkrampusAnd who'll be the king, Jesus? Let me guess, you?

@cloudsofsunset7323

29 күн бұрын

@@rainbowkrampus a like for the giggle that made me have this comment

@rainbowkrampus

29 күн бұрын

@@chlorophyllphile I get a lot of weird responses. This is one of them.

I was hesitant when I saw the title. I'm glad I gave it a chance.

Ah! I can't remember which channel had a video about this (on KZread) but somewhere I watched a video countering the idea that the polarization came from the echo chamber effect of social media, saying that it actually had more to do with being exposed to too many things. It sounds counter-intuitive, but it presented a strong argument and was citing some recent research.

He wouldn't vote. He would preach that the end is nigh and the world is ending and that doesn't matter. Still waiting 2000 years later for that nigh end.

@chimeremnmaozioko17

29 күн бұрын

The Jews waited long for the coming of the messiah. Christians are waiting long for Christ's second coming. Of course, as humans, 2000 years seems so long. But to God, it's hardly a blink of an eye.

@rainbowkrampus

29 күн бұрын

@@chimeremnmaozioko17 "Truly I tell you, there are some standing here who will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.” Unless you're trying to tell me that some of those dudes are still alive somewhere and can confirm all of this, I kinda think he was just wrong.

@Alverant

29 күн бұрын

@@chimeremnmaozioko17 An omnipotent god would have better timing than a "blink of an eye".

@chimeremnmaozioko17

29 күн бұрын

@@Alverant many cultures are just coming to the knowledge of Christ. If Jesus had come again in the first century or maybe 11th century or even 16th century. So many people would not know him.

@thescoobymike

29 күн бұрын

This is the correct answer

I think part of the problem is that so many different people wrote so many different things about Jesus, there are things that support both arguments. For example, Paul and Peter and other followers might emphasize adherence to law, either strict belief in Jesus for salvation or adherence to Jewish law for salvation. If we look at something Jesus said himself from Matthew 25:31-46, we can see that Jesus seems to think that just being virtuous is enough for salvation, belief may not be required. It's important to remember that Jesus was a jew, modern Christianity is the religion about Jesus, not the religion of Jesus. Scholars spend a lot of time trying to figure out exactly which quotes from the bible can be attributed to Jesus and which ones are probably later additions. I think it's fair to say that Jesus would be in favor of strong social welfare programs, judging by his supposed actions (healing, feeding the crowd, etc.) and his talks about giving up wealth for ascetism. edit: I'm an atheist, not a Christian

As always, great scholarly take on something inherently irrational and absurd. Great content

I just KNOW this will be a great and not controversial video/comment section *equips flame shield vicariously*

People worship the image in the mirror and bend scripture to fit that image. That is why I stopped identifying myself as a Christian many years ago.

@bertrandaime4921

29 күн бұрын

Who do you identify yourself as then?

@mysticwanderer4787

29 күн бұрын

@@bertrandaime4921 I am a follower of Jesus which means I take his teachings for what they are. I also have a degree in religion from a secular university and have studied and written papers on his teachings from an academic perspective.

@mysticwanderer4787

28 күн бұрын

@@bertrandaime4921 A follower of Jesus who is Christ. I have a degree in Religion and have studied his life and teachings from an academic as well as a spiritual perspective. I am confident I know who he is and his theology. Unfortunately, it does not look like the reflection in my mirror nearly as much as I would like.

@bertrandaime4921

28 күн бұрын

@@mysticwanderer4787 thank you so much for the clarification. If I understood you well, you are a follower of Jesus Christ but not a Christian because when you look in the mirror, you do not reflect Jesus Christ as you would like?

@bertrandaime4921

28 күн бұрын

If that is the case, it is challenging me also to think about who I call myself.

Jesus said "render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's". He was the original separation of church and state guy.

@wes4736

29 күн бұрын

Talk about extrapolation. All he said was that you should comply with laws so long as they don't also conflict with faith. The context of the passage is that the Pharisees are trying to trap him ideologically as either an enemy of Rome or an enemy of Judea by asking if you should pay taxes or donate to the Temple.

@azazel166

29 күн бұрын

That can't be right, the local boomer told me that Jesus believes what he believes.

@easy8690

29 күн бұрын

No that's not what that means. God demands people to submit to his righteous will. Jesus is a part of the God head so therefore he agrees.

@tonymarzocco8962

29 күн бұрын

The PREMISE of the video is a fantasy, it cannot be done. The extrapolation is really Jesus being in our time, country and facing a decision to vote.

@Dinofaustivoro

29 күн бұрын

He was equally against both

Finally, about time someone started asking real questions

As a 1) political science major, 2) person from a Christian background, and 3) an amateur religious studies enthusiast, I love the concept of this video.

Can tell you without watching: neither!

@cabot100

29 күн бұрын

Your answer is incorrect, thanks for participating.

@solitarymystic4672

29 күн бұрын

@@cabot100 says who, an ideological savant?

@Mr.scooter-le8yo

23 күн бұрын

If you watched the video you would know.

@Itsmerveille125

12 күн бұрын

@@cabot100but it’s true

@cabot100

12 күн бұрын

@@Itsmerveille125 Do you not know Jesus? Repent and seek salvation.

I always wondered what kind of video would get viral in your channel lol. Prolly something like this. Cheers

If Jesus heard about American politics today, his first question would be "Sorry, what's America?"

@FleurPillager

18 күн бұрын

He's watching and he's not happy with us.

As a retired person who was trained in the social sciences, I tend to believe that there are important elements of truth in both hypothesizes. We do tend to see our religion as reinforcing our own world views both personally and as a society; yet we also seek to go deeper to uncover the "true" meaning and wisdom of our religion. There causal relationships is very nuanced and goes in both directions.

"Now the whole group of those who believed were of one heart and soul, and no one claimed private ownership of any possessions, but everything they owned was held in common. With great power the apostles gave their testimony to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus, and great grace was upon them all. There was not a needy person among them, for as many as owned lands or houses sold them and brought the proceeds of what was sold. They laid it at the apostles’ feet, and it was distributed to each as any had need." (Acts 4:32-35)

@stephenwells6434

17 күн бұрын

That sounds suspiciously similar to... COMMUNISM.

Pfft. Everyone knows Jesus would think exactly like I do!!!

What an innocent video that surely won't conjure any hate or strife

Seeing as Jesus's homeland is currently being bombed back to the stone age, he'd 100% be down to overthrowing the whole system entirely

Isn't it common to find that most people's personal beliefs don't align with what the religion teaches anyway? I'm thinking of that Pew Research study that mentioned how like 70 % of Catholics don't believe in Catholic dogma. Like we all definitely shape our gods with our own biases but as long as there are sacred texts and authorities and dogma (which most religions have) there will be a level of tension between what the religion supposedly stands for and what I want to project onto it.

@MaryamMaqdisi

29 күн бұрын

From a Catholic background I say yes

@UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana

24 күн бұрын

Humans use religion to justify their already existing morals 😇 and worldview 🌍👀. They don't base their morals and worldview on their holy texts, unless they were previously neutral on the subject.

Jesus was an apocalypticist that preached that the end of the world would come in the lifetimes of those who heard his words, so I don't think he'd of bothered with voting at all.

@easy8690

29 күн бұрын

Did Jesus ever say that the people that heard him would see the apocalypse? He never did. The apocalypse was a vision another dude had.

@lmeeken

29 күн бұрын

@@easy8690 Arguably, yes, he did. At least in the Gospel accounts. E.g. “For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and will then repay every man according to his deeds. Truly I say to you, there are some of those who are standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.“ (Matthew 16: 27, 28) and “Then they will see the Son of Man coming in clouds with great power and glory. And then He will send forth the angels, and will gather together His elect from the four winds, from the farthest end of the earth to the farthest end of heaven. Now learn the parable from the fig tree: when its branch has already become tender and puts forth its leaves, you know that summer is near. Even so, you too, when you see these things happening, recognize that He is near, right at the door. Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place…“ (Mark 13:26-30) and many more. As with anything in those books (and any books apart from maybe technical manuals) there are multifarious potential readings. But there are enough recurring statements about an impending end to the world put in Jesus's mouth, and in the occasional writings of other NT (pseudo-)authors, that it was at the very least a frequently-used rhetorical device if not an explicitly prophecy.

@ArakkoaChronicles

29 күн бұрын

@@easy8690 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom. He didn't use the word "apocalypse", obviously. But he absolutely believed the world was about to end, or at least whoever wrote that did.

@azaria5419

29 күн бұрын

Agreed. Frankly I find Jesus a bit of a nut, I don’t really get what’s so great about him. I’d rather be a Jew than a Christian if I had to choose a religion

@pv3764

28 күн бұрын

@Arraka, this is Matthew 16. And 6 days later in Matthew 17 you see the son of man coming in his kingdom.

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I would like to think he would throw the vast majority of politicians out of office, especially the ones most vocal about following him.

What a title! *hats off*

@ShirleeKnott

29 күн бұрын

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Well we know one thing he definitely wasn't an American considering he would have had no knowledge of the existence of the North American continent or Senegal West Africa or Korea.

@joefilter2923

29 күн бұрын

And yet he had blonde hair hair and blue eyes

@grapeshot

29 күн бұрын

@@joefilter2923 😄😄😄😄 yeah in some Victorian water painting.

@sniedendepoes

29 күн бұрын

@@joefilter2923Romans said he had blue eyes though

@thorpeaaron1110

29 күн бұрын

Fr lol

@rebeccaanne9863

29 күн бұрын

⁠@@joefilter2923figuring out what color Jesus’s hair and eyes were would be dependent upon what race he was and determining his race would be as difficult as figuring out how he would vote. This is made harder be the fact that the near east was then and is still now one of the most ethnically diverse areas of the world.

Jesus: "What is voting?"

Everybody knows ol JC is a straight up Commy

What a phenomenal video idea haha

@ShirleeKnott

29 күн бұрын

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Before watching, bold topic

I think the "directional cause" here is both ways, religion shapes society and society shapes religion, it often leads to feedback loops that breed extremism if religion institutions aren't put into check.

7:25 Makes sense. Most of us get our religious beliefs secondhand, from our parents/elders/society. So, God is often whatever it’s long been established to have been for usually centuries.

This is perfectly timed. We are talking about authority, projection, and politics in class this week and next!

sigh ::goes to the comment section::

@mrvincentmarcellus

29 күн бұрын

This should be fun

That Genesis song, "Jesus Knows me" comes to mind...

“My kingdom is not of this world.”

It’s only logical to assume that Jesus was radical for his time. If he was Conservative (= wanting to “conserve society” and have very little and slow change of the society) he wouldn’t have gotten all the attention he got! However his ideas may have become the norm after 2000 years and by today’s standard they could be anything but radical. So it would depend on if you consider actual political hard facts or a person’s state of mind when saying “liberal/left” (which is not at all considered the same except in the US 🙄) and “conservative/right”.

@wes4736

29 күн бұрын

Very well articulated. I think a big part of why he wouldn't be a radical is that so many of our baselines of what's right and wrong have origins in his teachings. Not entirely of course, because we're far from a hardline Christian society and have been for decades at this point. But because it's been a relatively recent development, even many of the radicals either way have retained some cultural cues that if you squint and look back far enough have a touch of what he's said.

@BigBadWolframio

29 күн бұрын

​​@@wes4736I'm not sure I agree. We humans tend to twist and bend to fit His teachings to us (those who believe) and we constantly reject him. He'd show us how wrong all of us are. Are we truly closer as a society to God now than 2000 years ago? Do we need Him less now? I may be wrong, but I think He'd be forever radical no matter the human society we live under, because we'll always have flaws and so will any system we put in place. Just to clarify: this is not a nihilist take, I do think that it matters to try to make this world better and to right wrongs and injustices at both personal and social levels, what I'm trying to say is that we'll get things wrong/or we'll get lost in the process and that's ok, that's what He came to do: to save us, redeem us, and point us in the right direction if we allow it.

@wes4736

29 күн бұрын

@@BigBadWolframio - in some ways, yes, in some ways no. We sure would be properly admonished for how we run things, and in regards to our own sinfulness, we're still just as eternally distant, yet eternally closer with Christs sacrifice on the table. I suppose what I mean to say when I say that he would be less radical is that others would SEE his words as less radical than how they were seen at the turn of the Common Era. I'm a bit of an ancient history buff, but really more of a nerd if anything, but when it comes to ideals of the BCs, they would be so foreign to someone living in most places today by how comparatively backwards it seems. If people think that God is a strict being in the Old Testament, we gotta look at what people were doing to see how radical God's been from the beginning. Abram came from the City of Ur, so let's just say he was an ethnic Akkadian living either during the time of the Neo Sumerian Empire or soon thereafter for convenience and considering his Semitic name. Before the Neo Sumerian Empire, when the Akkadian Empire ruled over Sumer, its founder and the first emperor of the world (so long as we don't count Lugal Zagesi) and his successors would innovate on the art of subjugation. Whenever a city would rebel, punishments would become increasingly harsh until a cities population would eventually decimated of its inhabitants and replaced by loyal Akkadians, and previous Sumerian inhabitants would be grouped up, and sent into facilities where those very kings described the deliberate punishing work, withholding of food, and even became the first to ever record an exact tally of people who would die. Sargon of Akkad, the pinnacle of what a good King was until Cyrus the Great 1800 years later, if he did that in the 20th century would be castigated as a VERY specific kind of politic KZread does not like to see in comments. The first Dynasty of Egypt had their court officials buried with their ruler, whether willingly or forced is unknown. This thankfully stopped by the 2nd Dynasty. The Sumerians of the city of Ur, the same city Abram came from, after Agade fell held a similar practice. The Canaanites, and by extension the Phoenicians (Canaanite trading colonies basically) their child sacrifices weren't only recorded by the Hebrew Bible. Later Greeks and Romans would also account these things entirely seperate from any Hebrew influence, and it's not as though Latins had clean hands either. Before Jesus, domination was the norm, entire cultures and genetic populations being wiped out in mass slaughter was the norm and seen as the right of the conqueror as consequence for refusing submission. But since Jesus, this idea has now become an approach so radical only the worst of the worst of men could even consider it, let alone try to implement it. In that old world, loving thy neighbor, thy enemies, praying for your persecutors was unfathomable. Today we're simply too used to it to see the radical nature of those ideas.

@BigBadWolframio

28 күн бұрын

@@wes4736 I get what you mean and agree, I just wanted to point out that, although his teachings have changed the world, I'm sure it would be radical in different ways. Thank you for your response! ^^

@U1TR4F0RCE

27 күн бұрын

I think it would be a bit more complicated, one element is that a lot of the stuff we associate with Jesus is stuff that comes from him being a Rabbi in the second temple period. So a lot of the elements of his teachings are a bit of a reach from what life is like for most people almost 2 millenia after the destruction of the Temple.

Jesus would vote neither and have both parties vote for him.

@jj9393

28 күн бұрын

Jesus for president 2024?

I'm so glad you got to the causal direction question. I was sitting on my hands most of the video thinking why are they (you and the study researchers) only talking about it as only one cause then effect? I wonder if there is correlation between having a generally positive view of Jesus, regardless of religiosity, and thinking he agrees with one's politics; or more the point, if there is correlation to the opposite effect.

Disappointed you didn't actually tackle the question from the title, but it was still an interesting watch