So basically this guy goes centuries into the future, and his favorite part was sitting in front of the TV. love it

@juliansanchezharris5773

23 күн бұрын

😂😂

@johnpooky84

23 күн бұрын

This is the best comment.

@lordkayx

22 күн бұрын

I know your being funny, but I liked his sincere hope that once the brutality, cruelty, and despair of war could be recorded through audio and video and witnessed firsthand it would either be enough to deter a person or at least know that they're a psychopath.

@sforza209

22 күн бұрын

Sounds like idiocracy.

@UdumbaraMusic

20 күн бұрын

@@sforza209 Sounds like what we're all doing right now.

It's actually impossible to think how the world will be different 1000 years from now. As 1000 years ago we would never even be able to think of such a concept as a phone or laptop.

@glov3box

Ай бұрын

That's just not true. Jesus predicted the iPhone. If you read scripture carefully this is obvious.

@pinchevulpes

Ай бұрын

Holtzman effect

@wowcplayer3

Ай бұрын

To think? Or to be right?

@Peaches.Gonsalez

Ай бұрын

We need energy and food. Sun offers lots of energy, most of it we don't even use.

@TomSistermans

Ай бұрын

1000 years in the future is easy to predict: Richard Nixon will be president

"Monarchs contributing to science rather than land conquered" no wonder this book was banned

@RogerTheil

8 күн бұрын

Much of modern science was developed by Monarchical funding. MANY monarchs loved the sciences and were eager to fund their further development. But yes, this opinion that governments should be more interested in the development of arts and sciences than wars and power was popular then as it is now.

@The1976spirit

3 күн бұрын

Remember Eisenhower and the International Geopphysical Year 1957.

I love how these old-timey 'utopian' societies all rely entirely on _everyone_ suddenly and unanimously agreeing with the author on everything and acting entirely selflessly all the time.

@levii4146

4 күн бұрын

True, it's almost as if everyone acted selflessly no one would even need to be selfish. These authors may be idealistic but at least they're capable of being optimistic enough to see the good in humanity

@theblingcycle

3 күн бұрын

@@levii4146 its almost as if such an idea goes against human nature and not just the "bad" parts, and necessitates cruel and total control over people's lives and the most pervasive propaganda you can imagine

@ryuunosuk3

3 күн бұрын

​@@theblingcycle these autors where gnostics, they believe in this obscure religion that dictates that a "gnosis" (knowledge) can elevate the soul and "unlock" your potential, essentially making you a god. It's the same seed that drives communism, that being: every human is a good person, but capitalism perverse their good nature, in a post-capitalist society everyone will have unlocked their godhood by the means of revolution (the gnosis of commies). They don't accept the idea of the original sin, that we are imperfect by nature, to them Satan was the good guy all along and he wanted to help humanity by giving the Apple to the humans (we have Apple now and they are overpriced products, Satan didn't know shit about technology).

@evar8071

Күн бұрын

in my humble opinion, i dont think humans will ever be capable of entire selflessness. although we have big developed brains we are still animals at the end of the day, we fight and squabble and we always have

@dogestranding5047

Күн бұрын

Utopia literally means “no place.”

Can’t wait to see people in 2440 react to this the same way we reacted in 2015 to Back to the Future II

@Ad-zk8nz

Ай бұрын

In our next reincarnations hihi...

@TiberiusX

21 күн бұрын

Plot twist it all comes true!

@DerHammerSpricht

20 күн бұрын

@@RockBrentwood Sounds like some vaguely Confucian fear-mongering.

@BigBrotherMateyka

18 күн бұрын

> implying there are people in 2440

@vulpo

18 күн бұрын

I'm afraid you'll have to wait.

This is some wacky french isekai

@samtendo6080

13 күн бұрын

This is literally a isekai!

@AmazingRebel23

3 күн бұрын

what is that

@kadenreed8603

3 күн бұрын

@@AmazingRebel23A quick search says it’s Japanese fantasy about a person transported to another world

@GaddafisPlug

3 күн бұрын

nahh broo just made a world full of chill folks

It sounds more like the writer is trying to write about how he thinks society should function rather than actual predictions about the future. I get the feeling the author wants to write about the ideal society so that people can dream about living in such a utopia so that these people would want to make changes towards enacting this ideal society.

@98Zai

Ай бұрын

Yeah, absolutely. It's like sci-fi, sowing ideas in people's heads sometimes bear fruit.

@Game_Hero

Ай бұрын

That was the trend back in the enlightenement era

@skyworm8006

Ай бұрын

Everything he says is a specific criticism of his society and what he personal thinks everyone should do. Even down to being annoyed about women talking too much about topics he thinks are beyond them. Or it's common political opinions and well-established medieval Christian morals like relating to the poor to say humble. Overall, it's insanity. What actually happens when you lend an ear to the self-styled Enlightened is incompetent authoritarianism and a level of control and intolerance previously impossible. These people's infinite arrogance would go on to produce mass suffering carelessly created by the state, with braindead thinkers like this at the helm, previously unheard of since such all-powerful states did not previously exist. Such as Communism and Nazi Germany. Surface-level sentimental thinkers who want power to impose their fanciful political projects will always end badly, since their only concern is their sentiment and rapid 'progress' by wiping slates clean, purely aesthetic self-satisfaction, not whether or not it actually works or is done carefully to avoid total catastrophe. That's every modern dictator. These people are legitimately mentally ill, or otherwise just cynical and power hungry, and we still have their acolytes, equally mentally ill, running around making life worse for everyone to feed their ego.

@arthurbriand2175

Ай бұрын

Just like Thomas More when he wrote about the island of Utopia or Roddenberry in Star Trek. It's a fairly common theme in optimistic speculative fiction.

@kingsandthings

Ай бұрын

In the book’s dedication Mercier implies that this is his dream, his best case scenario for the future, while the more likely outcome is described in practically apocalyptic terms: “August and venerable year! Thou who art to bring felicity upon the earth! Thou, alas, that I have only in a dream beheld, when thou shalt rise from out the bosom of eternity, thy sun shall enlighten them who will tread upon my ashes, and upon those of thirty generations, successively cut off, and plunged in the profound abyss of death … But what do I say? Delivered from the illusions of a pleasing dream, I fear, alas! I fear, that thy sun is more like to cast a gloomy light on a formless mass of ashes, and of ruins.” As aspects of his dream actually started coming true however, he claimed his novel as prophetic (drawing much derision from contemporaries). At the start of the 1798 edition of the book he writes: “Without forcing the meaning, and in a clear and precise manner, I unequivocally brought to light a prediction which encompassed all possible changes, from the destruction of parliaments, the nobility and the clergy, to the adoption of the round hat. Never, I dare say, was a prediction closer to the event, and at the same time more detailed about the astonishing series of all the particular metamorphoses. I am therefore the true prophet of the revolution, and I say it without pride; providence arranges for each author in this base world a good fortune and why attribute to writers who were vague or earlier (referring to Rousseau and Voltaire) what belonged openly and so recently to me.”

I've never considered a future without the industrial revolution, it's so cool to imagine a distant future like 2440 being so old fashion

@joshmnky

18 күн бұрын

It's far enough out for a collapse and reformation. He might not be as off-the-mark as we think, lol.

@Valentin-oc5nh

16 күн бұрын

@@joshmnkytrue omg! i hope so

@maxbielawski6745

14 күн бұрын

It’s crazy to think this could’ve happened. Human progress really wasn’t inevitable

@icy9308

13 күн бұрын

​@@Valentin-oc5nh u hope women are nothing more than companions for men

@samdasamoza

12 күн бұрын

@@Valentin-oc5nh you hope for a global societal collapse within the next 300 years?

This man had really peculiar viewpoint: the american and african colonies were abolished and the slaves freed themselves while colonizers begged for forgiveness. However, people in China were made to learn latin alphabet, Poles were thanking Tsar Katherine for 'taking care of Polish chaos' and Scotts and Irishmen were eager to be stripped out of their national identity.

@Don-ep4mx

16 күн бұрын

Well, the oppression olympics were somewhat different back then...

@laurenceneabeven-computerscien

12 күн бұрын

He had the best viewpoint

@colbyboucher6391

10 күн бұрын

Well, the idea was that freedom only extened to a point that education was supposed to correct. Everyone in his society would think the "correct" way... but. there's a big difference between "wrongheadedness" and the absurd suffering of slavery. He wasn't _that_ heartless.

@epicsmashman6806

9 күн бұрын

with respect to the chinese using the latin alphabet, I feel as if he was saying they willfully adapted the use of the latin alphabet because it was "better", no force involved. Just the authors personal view that everyone in the world would of course eventually use the latin alphabet.

@Vapor817

8 күн бұрын

to be fair chinese people today use english letters for pinyin in everyday life, it's much faster than having to write out characters

It's wild to me that even in this vision of an enlightened progressive future where a prosperous reborn Aztec empire rules North America and a black Spartacus has brought justice and peace for the descendants of slaves in the new world, the Irish and Polish are still considered incapable of governing themselves lol colonial era European prejudices are truly fascinating

@Mrpersonman0

13 күн бұрын

I'm not sure an empire of any kind ruling north america would be progress but sure.

@brianschmidt9919

12 күн бұрын

speak for yourself, you've been brainwashed to believe that - this platform is complict in it as is its parent company google and many others as well - dont buy into the lie that says white means weak. i know who i am and no amount of indoctrination could change the faith i have in in my abilities or my peoples. all i have to do is remember the incredible number of advancements and accomplishments that help make our world a better safer healthier more enjoyable place to live and know that they exist because we dreamt of them built them spoke them sung them wrote them wrought them and did them. im incredibly proud and feel fortunate to be part of a such a great strong and capable people and its from them that i rightly source my strength and confidence and so should you

@arlynnecumberbatch1056

10 күн бұрын

@@Mrpersonman0 i mean is colonialism progression?

@colbyboucher6391

10 күн бұрын

​@@Mrpersonman0Well, this dude was wishing for an empire in Europe, too. It was certainly his idea of of progress.

@MarteenHobbu

4 күн бұрын

​​@@arlynnecumberbatch1056 by definition, yes.

That is one hell of a nap

@stewiebalew6446

Ай бұрын

Reminds me of Ray Wiley Hubbard's Conversation with the devil 😂

@dannydetonator

Ай бұрын

He might have taken some.. ahem, dream enchancers like ayhuasca or something before bedtime

@orionbarnes1733

23 күн бұрын

my man SNOOZED

@Jakob.Hamburg

19 күн бұрын

@@dannydetonator The more DMT we release while dreaming, the more intense, realistic and visionary the dreams become. External DMT like from the usage of Ayahuasca forces it, but such dreams can also come incidental without psychoactive drugs. Also related: Archetypal dreams.

@BlackSupraC2

18 күн бұрын

@@Jakob.Hamburg just one hour ago I finished rewatching Inception and wonder if there are actual drugs/ sedatives out there that can enhance lucid dreaming...then I see this comment.

Sorry bro I cannot come today, I got sent to the Hell again for developing a warlike disposition.

@DerHammerSpricht

20 күн бұрын

"Under peaceful conditions, the warlike individual sets upon himself!" ~Friedrich Nietzsche

@Arvak777

15 күн бұрын

Bros like, evil people just play COD as punishment.

@nitsu2947

13 күн бұрын

I hear this part and suddenly goes "oh, you mean All quiet on the Western Front ?"

The Tower of Babel book burning and the mask of shame re-educators part was terrifying

@wyatttyson7737

5 күн бұрын

Its like an 18th century Brave New World with a heaping dose of 1984.

As a Pennsylvanian, the idea that we are the only colony that survived is *so* funny to me. Not sure a lot of us would want to survive if coffee was banned though!

@pierren___

Ай бұрын

Where did he said that ?

@RyRy2057

29 күн бұрын

@@pierren___ i was skipping through the video and at number 8 it says that about Pennsylvania soon after

@pierren___

29 күн бұрын

@@RyRy2057 number 8 ?

@RyRy2057

29 күн бұрын

@@pierren___ oh yeah sorry like, when you hit 8 on the keyboard it skips to 80% through the video

@pierren___

29 күн бұрын

@@RyRy2057 oh yeah i found around 32:00

The most unbelievable part of this story was the entire British Isles uniting together as Great Britain.

@margitwes6495

29 күн бұрын

Yup! The English will never live down what they did to Ireland/Scotland, not in hundred generations

@pierren___

22 күн бұрын

The uk does. Its one island

@gdplayer19

20 күн бұрын

@@pierren___ But they are only in a sort of mini-union, aren't they? They're still seperate countries.

@Helperbot-2000

20 күн бұрын

@@pierren___ go on over to scotland and call em english, hahahahha

@pierren___

20 күн бұрын

@@Helperbot-2000 no matter how far they twist it, they are

The book burning and author censorship via mandatory shame masks was so dark so suddenly 💀

@mitchellcouchman1444

Ай бұрын

The part its portrayed as a good thing too is interesting, idk if that's the influence of how its presented here or how its presented in the book tho

@jennysquibb7440

Ай бұрын

Poor Sappho was wronged!

@mazzyfart420

Ай бұрын

@@mitchellcouchman1444Yoooo does anybody else think this guy a shameful fool 😹🫵 I think we all know what time it is fr 👺🫳

@sagitarriulus9773

Ай бұрын

Right and the writer doesn’t seem to acknowledge how fucked that is lol. When George Orwell wrote about the memory hole he made it sound like the end of the world when something would be thrown down it.

@jennysquibb7440

Ай бұрын

@@sagitarriulus9773 one person’s utopia is often another person’s dystopia.

I could easily see how this "utopia" could be twisted into the most depressing dystopia ever imagined... geez what a great concept for a novel.

@lucieeatssnekkers2756

Ай бұрын

I agree, the bookburning was what made it click for me that it was a fascist hell.

@auangauthentication958

Ай бұрын

Mao also burned countless books , is he a Fascist?

@zwarga100

Ай бұрын

@@auangauthentication958 yes

@huwjonesification

Ай бұрын

It reminds me of the whole whole thing and self censorship that’s going on now

@Kay-kg6ny

Ай бұрын

​@mechupaunhuevon7662you're right about the formal definition of the term they happened to use, but I think the broader point they were trying to get at about it actually being a dark and oppressive society still stands

I love the fact that not having a sword when walking down the streets of paris was considered highly futuristic back then.

@francisdec1615

5 күн бұрын

You could buy firearms without a license in France and many other European countries like Sweden and Germany until about shortly after WWI and there were no restrictions on carrying, so yes, not carrying a weapon seemed a bit strange to most people in 1771.

Love how every depiction of the future just says more about the time it was predicted than anything. It's usually always "like our time, except now flying cars".

"Theology? Yeah, we use that as a memetic warfare agent"

This (the book) despite being very clearly intended to be read as an utopia of sorts, and thus being presented with very positive lens, has the feeling of having something very fundamentally wrong underneath the appearances. Although admittedly that is probably a result of how naively it presents the ideas.

This is the best recommendation the KZread algorithm has ever sent me. I usually find this quality of stuff by looking for a topic and searching until i find something good. This was my first recommendation today.

Our ideas of a distant future conjure up visions of massive technological change, whereas this 1771 author’s ideas of the distant future center around societal perfection.

@brianschmidt9919

12 күн бұрын

its ironic too that in order to acheive this eden like society where each person is oriented to the good of all requires a level of unity and compliance that could only be acheived by the complete suppression of all other ideas and a mechanism of state that system of either rewards those those who comply and punishes those who wont until they do and therefore by necessity it would have to be incredibly tyrannical and oppressive.

@EmilyTienne

12 күн бұрын

@@brianschmidt9919 I have to agree with your statement. This is pure socialism and suppression. The biblical heaven could be something like this, and I’m not interested.

@M.Alfonso

9 күн бұрын

It's interesting that we are so technology-leaning on how we imagine the future today. I love the idea of imagining distant future on a moral aspect

@EmilyTienne

9 күн бұрын

@@M.Alfonso Agreed. We, as a whole, have come to tie human worth to the acquisition of substance (money, property, things).

@Balajohn_

5 күн бұрын

​@@EmilyTienne well it is our thing after all. Humanity has the ability to manipulate and craft the world to her image like no other animal (that we know of) does.

This isn't a utopia. This is a dystopia under a thin veneer of utopia. This actually feels like the 'utopian' upper city in Demolition Man. People are brainwashed into a cult of pacificism and timidness with no freedom of thought. The most obvious cracks in the veneer, for instance, when it is stated that princes who inherently disagree, are punished by experiencing war for there entire lives. That is a worse punishment that being in prison. This society took down the bastille (that actually did take down crimimals) for being unethical but harshly punishes any thought that is out of line.

@ordinaryrat

18 күн бұрын

20:06 Holy shit this is wild. There is no way this guy was trying to make a utopia here.

@sluggastar2

4 күн бұрын

The book burning part definitely gives it away

The real retro-futurism. haha

@EkoFranko

Ай бұрын

necro-futurism

@a.r.c.001

13 күн бұрын

Classical futurism

23:03 "none of the meats had any particular seasoning" Nuke it

@NathanHigger

26 күн бұрын

Found the black man

@TheRealityWarper08

22 күн бұрын

​@NathanHigger I'm guessing by your name that you're white(creative btw)?

@SneedFeedAndSeed

21 күн бұрын

THIS IS WAY ICEY HERMANO! I CAN TOTALLY FEEL IT!

@francisdec1615

5 күн бұрын

Some meat, like Swedish meatballs or real Bolognese sauce barely has any spices in it, only a little onion, carrot and celery etc.

I love how 'imaginative' and 'out there' the futurism vision from people back then. Its so refreshing. Its so much better than contemporary era where people's imagination and vision seem to be stuck on old and tired popular scifi tropes, so its either star wars or blade runner.

THE 2 MONTH UPLOAD SCHEDULE IS REAAAALLLL

@kingsandthings

Ай бұрын

I actually thought I'd be able to get this out by early February at one point ... I never learn, it always takes longer than expected 😑

@Auglet

Ай бұрын

@@kingsandthingsdon’t stress about it, love the content and if it takes longer to make it so be it

@ayindestevens6152

Ай бұрын

@@kingsandthingsquality over quantity

Shows how limited our imaginations are compared to the grand scale of universe and time

Why is this novel not credited as the first science fiction novel? (Currently credited to Frankenstein) It is pure speculative fiction

@Apanblod

Ай бұрын

There's the story 'A True Story' written by the Syrian author Lucian of Samosata in the second century. Why isn't THAT credited as the first science fiction novel? 🧐

@charles_caermichael

Ай бұрын

If you’re calling speculative fiction the same as sci fi then there’s the source of the issue. I know they’re linked and held equivalent at times but if you count anything speculative why not count religious prophecy? Revelations and Ragnarok. No, no. Speculative fiction is a good word for this, a term I like is social science fiction. Books that reimagine the social and economic landscapes of the future. The Blazing World is a book written in 1666 by Margaret Cavendish, this too is a work that gives beautiful insights into a future only the past could imagine.

@DerHammerSpricht

20 күн бұрын

The first sci-fi story ever written was Gilgamesh lmao

@echopraxia4552

16 күн бұрын

As Apanblod mentioned, the first known piece of literature best fitting the “sci-fi” genre would likely be A True Story by Lucian of Samosata written in the 2nd century AD. Another contender might be Somnium (The Dream) by Johannes Kepler written in 1608. It has been considered to be one of the earliest works of science fiction by people such as Carl Sagan and Isaac Asimov.

@NecromancyForKids

9 күн бұрын

By the way, the very first book of a genre is not placed in that genre because it technically didn't exist yet.

This would be a dope setting for an open world video game

Very interesting, you can definitely tell that he is imagining a world in which the ideals of the Enlightenment are true but as is inevitably the case, it was impossible for him to predict social and especially technological advances in the future

@mitchellcouchman1444

Ай бұрын

What he could not favom is that man is not inherently good. There's clear precursors to progressivism in this text. A lack of understanding of what drove history to progress to where it was at that time. Obviously far easier to see in hindsight.

@micahistory

Ай бұрын

@@mitchellcouchman1444 yes

@pierren___

Ай бұрын

He predicted electricity and internet.

@pierren___

Ай бұрын

He litterally did and thats why he wrote this book. 🤦‍♂️

@names_are_useless

Ай бұрын

​@@mitchellcouchman1444 "Thou who are to bring felicity upon the earth! thou, alas! that I have only in a dream beheld..." It's moreso utopian fiction than speculative, what the writer dreams France will look like in the future.

The bit about attacking an enemy with religion/theology was pretty great.

@arcadiaberger9204

18 күн бұрын

Or as we call it today, attacking them with propaganda.

I think one of the saddest parts of modern European culture is that we completely lost the ability to write about the future in a hopeful tone. For us, all future nevels are dystopias, which just express our increasingly backwards looking, insecure, a hopeless culture

@pierren___

Ай бұрын

Thats because we INTERPRET it as negative. Social credit is very positive for example.

@erdachtzumuntergang

Ай бұрын

​@@pierren___ How so?

@pierren___

Ай бұрын

@@erdachtzumuntergang it allows to track fraud and scams. It encourages people in China to be altruist and patriotic.

@margitwes6495

29 күн бұрын

@@pierren___ Social credit could be positive unless it's in the hands of control freaks like our elected officials today.

@ldubt4494

28 күн бұрын

​@@erdachtzumuntergang in 1770 it would have been regarded as a great way to regulate and harmonize society, to create stability and progress, etc.

the glass harmonica sounds so haunting.

@arcadiaberger9204

18 күн бұрын

Needs a revival. It's called an "armonica", BTW.

Crazy how he predicted radio and tv

@DerHammerSpricht

20 күн бұрын

Crazy how long ago people were predicting AI/robots.

@victorpedrosoceolin3919

17 күн бұрын

@@DerHammerSpricht where, please?

@colbyboucher6391

10 күн бұрын

Yeah, there's some real sci-fi right there. They basically understood what vision and hearing were, so he could imagine a world where they're manipulated, even without industry to help it along.

@DerHammerSpricht

9 күн бұрын

@@victorpedrosoceolin3919 1927, Fritz Lang's METROPOLIS was the first mainstream movie to use AI as a theme. But there were discussions of the idea of an "automaton" and how to build one, going back to the time of Socrates.

@victorpedrosoceolin3919

9 күн бұрын

@@DerHammerSpricht well, metropolis was not that long ago, i can totaly see that And the greeks had some forms of automations if i remember, but putting people to do that was cheaper so they never really went on with it I am gonna search the automaton thing, it sounds curious

Predicting the future is a fun exercise, but we are all prisoners of our own time and thoroughly limited. Excellent video. Thank You.

One of the best history channels on KZread, no contest.

That’s a very interesting and well done video! I’d love to see some analysis of other old Utopian writings, maybe from Sir Thomas More, William Morris, Alexander Bogdanov or Alexander Chapayev.

Ever notice how often utopia is based on everyone agreeing with the utopian? The first casualty of utopia is free thought

@vaxrvaxr

13 күн бұрын

Well said.

@PeterSchmuttermaier

10 күн бұрын

So do you mean that free thought is the enemy of collective happiness?

@vaxrvaxr

10 күн бұрын

@@PeterSchmuttermaier We don't know enough about collective happiness to engineer it. Attempts at doing so at the cost of free thought are guaranteed to end in collective misery.

@colbyboucher6391

10 күн бұрын

​@@PeterSchmuttermaierI mean, in an absolute sense, it's certainly the enemy of agreement and therefore contentment, which is the best anyone can hope for. Problem is forcing people to conform doesn't eliminate free thought, and actually makes their discontent greater.

@goat9295

9 күн бұрын

A truly free society is a dangerous society. A truly safe society is a controlling society. There's no way of winning

I sense an opportunity for a book where Mercier finds himself in Paris of the 2020s after his ‘death’ and compares it to his own image of the future to be written…

What is referered to as Poland at 36:20 was in fact Polish-Lithuanian confederation. Calling it Poland is pretty much the same as refering to Great Britain as England. It was pretty democratic, if you're noble, which I guess counts as anarchy for those living in absolute monarchies like Russia or France of 18th century

@Game_Hero

Ай бұрын

reffering to the dominant nation of the "union of equals" is a very common practice that tells a lot about the nature of multinational societies.

@pierren___

Ай бұрын

Did you understood he elogise it ?

@pierren___

Ай бұрын

Most nobles were left wing progressists in the 18 century

@theaverageportugues4200

Ай бұрын

​@@pierren___ there was no sutch thing in the 18th century, the term right wing only came to existende in the 19th century

@pierren___

Ай бұрын

@@theaverageportugues4200 bro never heard about the french revolution .

"The Poles are still grateful to Catherine the Great". Me, as a Pole: pffffff 😂

@mistycloud4455

Ай бұрын

Poland is nothing

@piotrzagroba5301

Ай бұрын

@@mistycloud4455 idk, I'm there right now and it doesn't seem like nothing.

@krzypl5959

Ай бұрын

@@mistycloud4455 don't you just love to randomly spread negativity

@Big_Dolfie

Ай бұрын

​@@mistycloud4455 poland is a conspiracy! It does not exist!

@leroysanchino

Ай бұрын

@@krzypl5959internet in a nutshell

Very unique and creative vision of the future, charming by its intellectualism, respect for the common human, pastoralism and overall simplicity, even if I'm not a fan of how it glamourizes book burning (almost like he had a dent against non-philosophical litterature, especially romance, so much it's funny, "No fun allowed") or the condescendant view of the author on Scotland and Ireland for daring to exist as their own thing. I find it however deeply interesting in how ahead of the curve in mainstream opinion it was on realizing the cruelty of empires and enslaving people and how it treats with respect and sameness human beings of different parts of the world and their cultures (outside Scotland and Ireland), very rare in the 18th century.

@l4zrh4wk

Ай бұрын

Here here

@Shvetsario

Ай бұрын

@@l4zrh4wk Hee hee

@pierren___

Ай бұрын

Some things are really useless... some books are really useless

@Game_Hero

Ай бұрын

@@pierren___ so what? Still not a reason to burn them.

@pierren___

Ай бұрын

@@Game_Hero it actually is lmao. Back in the days you had to save paper

This was extraordinarily well crafted. Bravo! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

Your channel is one of the best of YT, I'm recent follower and I can't express how good this is man. Continue like this, please. Everything is perfect.

One of my favorite Future speculations ever heard, havent finished yet, but enjoying it so much. My favorite part so far is how everyone is still religious, even more so, but a more rational, benevolent type. It is far more interesting than the 20th century staple of "everyone is atheist"

@lempereurcremeux3493

17 күн бұрын

tl;dr - this is just the 18th century equivalent of "everyone is atheist" It makes more sense when you consider that deism (what you're describing) was the equivalent of today's atheism back then and occupied the same niche - an edgy antiestablishment belief adopted by bourgeois people who wanted to express their discontent with the stuffiness and formalism of state religion. The core motivation of deism is stripping religion of frivolous and irrational aspects, and making everything simple and unadorned; its attacks on the church establishment were nothing that low-church Protestants hadn't said about Catholics a century earlier and weren't still saying in the 18th century. Over the course of the 18th and 19th centuries, deism won out almost everywhere, and now found itself attacked by a newer, younger version of itself which fulfilled that same role in society: atheism.

@stegotyranno4206

17 күн бұрын

@lempereurcremeux3493 i guess that is true though. but if i memory serves, his ideas of neo-deism still contain culture and traditions, unlike most other forms of deism and atheism, which is why I find it interesting.

We are closer to the writing of the book than the date it speaks of. That's insane to think about!

Every time I open KZread and see a Kings and Things upload, I know it's going to be a great evening. I've been hooked since I discovered the rulers of Bavaria series.

Once again, every video on this channel just inspires me to create a more beautiful and pleasant world, thank you so very much king

I've heard a little bit about this book from Laurent Dubois' "Avengers of the New World," a book about the history of the Haitian Revolution which references and takes its title from that passage about the statue. Interesting to learn more about how Mercier envisioned the future!

Five centuries earlier Roger Bacon did predict self propelled vehicles and flying machines. Interesting that this Mercier did predict some kind of video display and sound playback kept separately. Or course fossil fuels are finite so by 2440 a lot of products of the industrial age may have been and gone.

Beautiful art collection. Thank you for your hard work! ❤

That was absolutely amazing, very interesting indeed. Thanks for uploading this!

I love your video/editing style, its really peaceful and intriguing to watch

Its interesting that all the buildings have rooftop gardens, a popular future city idea nowadays is rooftop lawns

Dear KAT, Thank you for this well presented piece, it is easy to understand why you chose it. I agree with other posters that the obvious basis for this work was to act as a Socioeconomic commentary on the writers own time. However it must be remember that "Futurism" as a concept did not even exist, nor was "Technology" a living part of that writers daily life. When Mercier published this work the late 1700's the primary form of information storage was The Book, and to understand ALL human knowledge, one man could read all the written material in those books, making a pile about as high as a man. In my life time alone I have seen the emergence of twelve ( 12) invented information storage systems ( and I am sure I am leaving some out that I have forgotten ), as result it has become necessary to create artificial memory-machines just to manage the explosive growth of information and knowledge, and this growth rate continues exponentially. Much like reading a prediction of what the creation of heavier than air machine flight would mean in 100 years per Scientific American circa 1890, there is the incredible failure see the development of thermonuclear destruction, or to understand functioning machines beyond the farthest reaches of their known space. The implication is that even our own "Futurism" of 100 years from today is woefully meager. However the interesting point, is that the futurism of the 1700's and the futurism of 2000's is in the differences of focus. Mercier was interested in exposing how advanced human culture and politics had become, where as ours is always based upon a "technological changes". Perhaps this difference is because ( unforeseen by Mercier ) we experienced the world shaking failures of created "Utopias" in the intervening years, and the terrible price created as a result. We have found out what Mercier did not know, that the enlightenment as he understood it, was not a panacea, and could even create greater horrors then was possible for him to ever imagine in his most unguarded nightmares.

@mitchellcouchman1444

Ай бұрын

I must say I disagree with your comment about the next 100 years, most is the 1960-1980s radically over estimated technology in the vast Majority of areas, the only really exception is computers but even in those spaces there is the prediction we would have true AI (not what we have today)

This is truly fascinating, and a wonderful video, thank you.

What a wonderful channel it makes you think about the past and how the future would be fascinating 😊

That's about 420 years from now. Pretty sure it's 100% accurate.

@thefunksbeats

Күн бұрын

After the nukes go off a few hundred years pass and people forget about the modern times and the industrial revolution 😅...😢 🍻

It is always amazing that no one in the deep past could envision a dramatically different APPEARING future. The city of Paris looks more ancient Greek than modern. Like this anecdote still has them in petticoats and living in 18th century homes with horse-drawn carriages. It isn't a huge jump to think that mabe the carriages would propel themselves in the future, or that lights would exist that weren't candles but gave off light "in the way of the sun" with no need to change it. How difficult it is to imagine simple trousers and the concept of the "t-shirt" which is absurdly simple. Or communication across the air which would be fantastic, but is not out of the realm of imagination. The ones in the more modern era predict the idea of smartphones, but they still retain bulky batteries and wires. It is interesting to observe the human imagination does not take dramatic risks with predictions.

@trudieangelica

Ай бұрын

This mindset reveals a great deal about our current society, and how we fixate on technological progress, as much as it reveals that people throughout history had different priorities.

@Rayrard

Ай бұрын

@@trudieangelica good point. Most likely the people in the late 1700's didn't even have the ability to invision (or even fathom) what we know later on as technology, so they focused on social progress or political matters as the future advancements that would matter most. It's likeif you asked a Neanderthal what the future would be like... they just wouldn't have a clue what was even capable of being created in 100,000 years. He'd probably say "the mammoth will be extinct and all of us will have different kinds of fresh meat and fruit year round, and the wooden shelters we make will be stronger and warmer at night"

@pierren___

Ай бұрын

​@@Rayrard the full book is not described here. He did predicted simpler clothing and electricity and internet

@pierren___

Ай бұрын

​@@Rayrard for the greek style it is explained by the improvement it brought since the renaissance + its pretty and natural

@peppermintgal4302

12 күн бұрын

​@@pierren___ Electricity was a known phenomenon at the time, I believe.

I was thinking about this just the other day, will be a fascinating video

I like how even an 18th century man recognized that synthesizers were cool

I swear I love this channel! Every upload is excellent in it's eclectic nature while maintaining the aspects of the historical theme of the channel. Always well done. Also, it's 40 minutes long!!! Perfect for sending me to dreamland

Mixture of Utopian and Dystopian ideas wrapped in a retro-futuristic package.

this was the most interesting thing I've seen in awhile, very well made

I would love to see what people 400 years from now will think of our Sci-fi and just how outlandish it was, I can imagine a lot of ridicule around how Star Trek portrays the 2300s - 2400s despite how good it would be.

@PRH123

Ай бұрын

They may have no way to watch it, if they are living by making stone and wood tools.

@xjohnny1000

Ай бұрын

I find predictions are getting better the more time passes. Many star trek technologies have already been invented, like video calling, ipads, and laser weapons. Teleportation is a thing (for single atoms so far), and warp drives are now a mathematical reality.

@ldubt4494

28 күн бұрын

While the Details probably wont be correct, space travel will 100% be a core part of civilization by then.

@arcadiaberger9204

18 күн бұрын

@@PRH123 Not a chance. Even if our current infrastructure-dependent civilization breaks down, too much is still known. People will still be able to read books, melt scrap metal and glass, draw wire, &c. We will be able to rebuild civilization from almost any imaginable collapse.

@PRH123

18 күн бұрын

@@arcadiaberger9204 think about it, in the 2nd half of the 19th century, long after the industrial revolution had already started, natural resources in many places were laying on the Earth's surface where they could easily obtained, for example the pure copper in northern Michigan, petroleum in Pennsylvania, coal seams near the surface, etc. Those easily accessible resources are gone, most significantly hydrocarbon energy sources that drove the industrial revolution. Those resources are now being sourced from deep under the ocean, or boiled out of oil sands. When humanity is knocked back to the wood and stone age, they won't be able to repeat those steps and easily access those resources again. Not to mention also that the knowledge of how such things are done is in the heads of a very tiny group of people, and each of them is an expert in their narrow field, none is a master of all of them. If those people are knocked off in the descent back to the wood age, the rest of us who can't hardly put together Ikea furniture are not going to be able :)

Funny how in this type of utopian decriptions (modern and, evidently, older too) the solution to religious intollerance it's always something on the line of "all the people are (more or less explicity) forced to belive the same, simple, things and dissuaded/prohibited to diverge from that". Where it's supposed to be the enlighted tollerance and liberty in that?!

@enriquesanchez2001

Ай бұрын

Just one person's view.

@DinoCism

Ай бұрын

"There are no atheists, *everyone* is religious... but they're all somehow super chill about it."

@enriquesanchez2001

Ай бұрын

@@DinoCism And so it goes... in that man's mind.

@elia9188

Ай бұрын

​@@DinoCism it's a full on contraddiction. Everyones is religious, but any actual discussion about it is frowned upon and nothing can go beyond simple governament approved beliefs. It looks more the dream of a particulary authoritarian medieval pope that an actual humanist utopia.

@elia9188

Ай бұрын

​@@enriquesanchez2001probably that's what happened, but isn't it a little iphocrytal? "Once my beliefs will be the dominant ones there will be true peace and tolerance". Thats legit how terrorist groups justify they're violence.

i was exited until I heard the "recreational math" part

@crimmy838

Ай бұрын

Factorio gamers seething

@DerHammerSpricht

20 күн бұрын

Bro predicted Sudoku!

Really good video I always learn new stuff on this channel

Love your vids. Keep it up!

Visions of the future alway tell you more about the time they were envisioned in than the future

This is a thought-provoking video about a thought-provoking book. Thanks so much for bringing it to my attention!

Okay .. Kings and Things is one of the best history channel names ive seen. Simple yet elegant

This guy predicted the video screen and CGI. What insane powers of speculation you must have to predict that and so many other things correctly.

@DerHammerSpricht

20 күн бұрын

Jim Morrison predicted EDM/Drum-n'-Bass

@francisdec1615

5 күн бұрын

There was a Roman author predicting space travels 2000 years ago, although his story was supposed to be ironic.

Bro we need a bioshock game in this setting

reading it right now, thanks for the introduction

Using forbidden religious texts instead of conventional weaponry? The author was definitely onto something there. The pen is far mightier than the sword in this day and age.

@gabrielaubry1334

Ай бұрын

This is what we call "memetic warfare".

Guy travels to 2024 "I see you have orderly traffic, everyone drives on the right. I bet you do not have a nobleman with 6 horse carriage racing recklessly through the city and plowing through people'' A red Ferrari flies into the view, takes out the light pole and crashes into some people. Guy ''Never mind...''

@hashkangaroo

17 күн бұрын

"Unfortunately, I see you still haven't burned all the books yet."

THIS is absolutely FASCINATING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ♥♥♥♥ Why haven't we heard of this before?

This is a banger Kings And Things Video.

Thank you for sharing the best information ❤❤

I enjoyed the video. One should always be sceptical about both futurism and utopian ways of thinking.

A hellish dystopia.

Really well made video

This just sounds like Gnosticism with extra steps

Very utopian, similar to pre-marxist socialist ideas. He imagined some kind of feudal-socialist society. Very modern ideas from a man from its times.

@pierren___

Ай бұрын

A republic.

@myowngenesis

Ай бұрын

​@@pierren___ a republic with a king? Sure thing buddy

@pierren___

Ай бұрын

@@myowngenesis litterally yeah, public affairs

@DerHammerSpricht

20 күн бұрын

@@myowngenesis "Senate" just means "Elders". AKA Gerontocracy. It's baked in to the idea.

@peppermintgal4302

12 күн бұрын

It's worth mentioning that at this time, protomarxism and protocapitalism were still the same thing.

How kind of everyone to have carried on with life around him without disturbing him, for the hundreds of years that he slept.

The thing that is most offensive to me is the book burnings lol

I'm gonna steal this for a multiverse story I'm working on

This is really specific and unrelated to the video topic, but I was really surprised to hear Beethoven’s op.18 no.6 slow movement at 2:40, a piece that I spent countless hours practicing and performing this year. Great find!

12:06 They invented black metal and used it as a tool to stop war!!!

This was pretty well thought out, not in the way its realistic but just good. Maybe that's what it takes to start a trend

Amazing video👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

What a superb documentary!

Man predicted cancellation

@hashkangaroo

17 күн бұрын

And endorsed it as an essential part of the new utopia.

@oskyys6853

16 күн бұрын

@@hashkangaroo lunacy

@hashkangaroo

16 күн бұрын

@@oskyys6853 20:10

@peppermintgal4302

12 күн бұрын

Did you never hear of what they did to Socrates? People have been "cancelling" eachother since we split off from the chimpanzee.

@oskyys6853

12 күн бұрын

@@peppermintgal4302 world never changed

I do love the idea of a world where princes are shown a war movie, and if they like it they are just locked in the theater so only people who find war abhorrent are ever allowed in power. But also he's imagining that in a world where the King only has ceremonial power, so I'm not sure it actually solves anything. Dunno how that slipped past his editor. I guess a wizard did it.

@silverhawkscape2677

Ай бұрын

In the end. It doesnt matter if the King doesnt want War when the one in power like Parliament can actually declare it.

@pierren___

Ай бұрын

Its called enlightened despotism, or "philosopher-King"

Literally 2440

Incredibly beautiful story, thanks for taking the time to bring this to today's reality. Truly a breath of fresh air.

@jfangm

Ай бұрын

Sounds dystopic and terrifying to me.

@enriquesanchez2001

Ай бұрын

@@jfangm The future and the unknown always are.

@pierren___

Ай бұрын

​@@jfangm whats dystopic here ?

@jfangm

Ай бұрын

@@enriquesanchez2001 No, they are not.

@jfangm

Ай бұрын

@pierren___ For one thing, there is no independent thought or freedom of speech. If you say something unpopular, you are imprisoned indefinitely. For another, they literally burn any work society considers offensive or useless, which are entirely subjective. How is that NOT dystopic?

If earth survives, I hope there is a world without war, poverty, hunger and corruption

@Gm-ce5kg

Ай бұрын

earth cant die

@germanyballwork5301

Ай бұрын

There is always going to be a new Alexander, war is inevitable. Pray your nation ans her leaders are ready for it.

@peppermintgal4302

12 күн бұрын

​@@germanyballwork5301 War isn't caused by Alexanders, but by material incentives for nations to militarize. Even an anarchist society will readily go to war. Otherwise, I largely agree, I don't see an end to the warlike nature of humanity anytime soon.