About indoeuropean Dueus Pater in the Lord's Prayer: kzread.info/dash/bejne/nX6c2dacotXJcbw.htmlfeature=shared and MIDDLE Polish and Polish Voices. What do you think about its?

As a Proto-Balto-Slav, I understood 100%. Great job!

@TarebossT

8 ай бұрын

lel

@PolishSound

6 ай бұрын

I am your creator;)

@druginys

6 ай бұрын

Nieko tu nesupratai. Anei žodžio

@Ryan-oh2om

6 ай бұрын

@@druginys as supratau. taip

@PolishSound

5 ай бұрын

​@@Ryan-oh2omZapraszam do nowego filmu: kzread.info/dash/bejne/nX6c2dacotXJcbw.htmlfeature=shared

The numbers made me think “So, it’s just an old form of Lithuanian.”

@PolishSound

8 ай бұрын

IT is understandable. "dva" is more similar to slavic and vedic. Thank you for comment :)

@PolishSound

3 ай бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/YmyMm5iOosnVkZs.htmlfeature=shared

most likely, there were proto-German-Balto-Slavs, then the proto-Germans separated from this community to the northwest, the southern part of the community was influenced by the Italics and Proto-Iranians and became proto-Slavs, the rest moved north and became the Balts.

I think proto slavic is a dialect of baltic mixed with indo-iranian That would make a lot of sense

@user-bh9pv5hp6y

4 ай бұрын

mixed with iranian and some italic

Yes, Proto-Balto-Slavic almost certainly existed - historical linguistic evidence all points to this.

@Oberschutzee

3 ай бұрын

There weren't, there are practically no evidence for that just theories

szkodz ze nie dodałes opcji tłumacznia z angielskiego na polski

@PolishSound

5 ай бұрын

Do nowego filmu dodałem ale muszę jeszcze ręcznie poprawić. Zapraszam

Nice one. New subscriber. I wanted to do one for Proto-Indo-Iranian. You have good deep voice. Will you able to help? I do have sample.

@PolishSound

8 ай бұрын

O... I AM not good in others languages, I recorded slavic and PBS because I am Polish. Which texsts?

@rtam7097

8 ай бұрын

@@PolishSound Proto-Indo-Iranian. I will guide you. I believe you will be apt as you have a Slavic accent. So, it won't be that far away to Indo-Iranian. The sample is for Proto-Indo-Iranian and I want to do a realistic hypothetical recreation of Proto-Indo-Iranian

@PolishSound

6 ай бұрын

Which texts? Show me

@rtam7097

6 ай бұрын

@@PolishSound I have that in Telegram. If you don't mind can I share there if you have?

@PolishSound

5 ай бұрын

​@@rtam7097In new video I recorded texts in Pali and Sanskrit. You can check it. What's name of telegram channel?

Greetings. Dobre den'. Thank you very much. Shiro dyakuyu.

@PolishSound

3 ай бұрын

Thank you for your kind words. I invite you to new videos, for example about Indo-European numbers, about middle Polish, and Lesser Polish dialect. .

Wondrous truly wondrous!

@PolishSound

6 ай бұрын

I invite you to New film with slavic Voices: kzread.info/dash/bejne/hIynlZaCf5PKmto.htmlfeature=shared

Wiele slow brzmi jak tzn Lacina kuchenna .na zasadzie : Kra mija kre a ja nos tre,Tam to ryja spi tu lis,baby tu prajta deskom plaskatom , albo to wez widlantus ,idz na polantus ,rozczes gnojantus..Kazda mowa jest prawdziwa kiedy mozna sie dogadac. Jedna z najstarszych jest chyba od Sorbow .tam np sklep spozywczy to zywidla ,serce utroba ,kot koszka ,bagna blota .Po krotkim osluchaniu mozna wiele zrozumiec.Pamietam Jak tzw Koledzy z wojska ciagle nam dokuczali z powodu naszej gwary .A slowo Gwarek to ktos kto mial szyb do gory.

Интересно.

How it could not exist if there is a reconstruction of it already? Is it a ghost reconstruction then?

@Deywos-zs2sq

8 ай бұрын

having of Altaic, Nostratic, Balto-Slavic (etc.) reconstructions doesn't mean that those languages really existed.

@Bdrbs

7 ай бұрын

Reconstruction doesnt prove that language existed. Its just a guess based on sound laws how that hypotetical language could sound. But its still the best we have when we are talking about languages which never been written or written late. For example written Lithuanian is pretty young, around 16 century. So if you want to have a grasp on how old Lithuanian language was like, you have to reconstruct (it wasnt very different).

The w sound was probably /w/ since it survived into Old Prussian and parts in Ukrainian/Belarusian

@PolishSound

Ай бұрын

IT od true.

Oh, so you’re the person behind the epic proto Baltic Slavic voice in the video of Ilovelangauges! I love your voice. You sound like a mighty east european ancestral warrior

@PolishSound

5 ай бұрын

Thank you. IT is normal Polish voice. I invite you to other videos. What middle Polish or leader Polish Sound for You? And where are you from? Greetings.

@PolishSound

5 ай бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/hIynlZaCf5PKmto.htmlfeature=shared

@PolishSound

3 ай бұрын

Numbers Indoeuropean Look for This: kzread.info/dash/bejne/YmyMm5iOosnVkZs.htmlfeature=shared

As a czech why is 9 nevim ? 😂 in Czech nevím mean "I DON'T KNOW" 😅😅

@PolishSound

6 ай бұрын

Já téż nie wiém ;)

@nadirhikmetkuleli7335

6 ай бұрын

In Slavic Languages Devem/Devim is a later development. Originally IE inherited word was Nevem/Nevim. N turned into D in early stages of Proto-Slavic.

@alexandergel2001

6 ай бұрын

Може, тому що чехи могли рахувати тільки до 8, а далі говорили «nevim”, тобто «не знаю»😅

@siyacer

6 ай бұрын

​@@nadirhikmetkuleli7335turk

Ena, dio, tria is probably from greek since the slavic alphabet is a made up alphabet (like all of them) from 2 byzantine high ranking individuals that went to the area to establish friendly relations. Since within the borders if Byzantium Greek was the official and dominant langauge makes sense they would borrow these very commonly used words

@gideonros2705

4 ай бұрын

No it doesn’t make sanse. New genetic studies show that Southern Slavs have older presence in the Balkans then the Greeks. In fact the Haplogroup-I is the only genetic group that is autochthonous to Europe in other words it originates in Europe. Any similarities can’t be only interpreted as ‘Greek’.

@PolishSound

3 ай бұрын

​@@gideonros2705Comparision of IE numbers Look for This: kzread.info/dash/bejne/YmyMm5iOosnVkZs.htmlfeature=shared

Labai įdomūs pamąstymai. Ačiū

@PolishSound

6 ай бұрын

Muzyka: kzread.info/dash/bejne/hIynlZaCf5PKmto.htmlfeature=shared

@PolishSound

5 ай бұрын

Zapraszam do nowego wideo z porównaniem...

@PolishSound

5 ай бұрын

Where are you from?

@PolishSound

3 ай бұрын

Look for This: kzread.info/dash/bejne/YmyMm5iOosnVkZs.htmlfeature=shared

Where are the Proto-Indo-Europeans?

@PolishSound

8 ай бұрын

Nobody knows

@PolishSound

8 ай бұрын

There are several hypotheses: that it is in Anatolia (today's Turkey), that it is in Ukraine, that it is on the Danube, that it is in Poland

@TarebossT

8 ай бұрын

In tumuli.

@Nastya_07

7 ай бұрын

@@PolishSound But most scholars believe it was in the Pontic Steppe (Ukraine, Russia), also, from what I have seen, the Danube/Poland hypothesis doesn't have much support, the 3rd most supported hypothesis is the Armenian hypothesis.

@pia_mater

7 ай бұрын

Right here. We are their descendants

Вот что бывает, когда реконструешь прародину индоевропейцев исключительно по лингвистическим сопоставлениям, будучи полным нулём в археологии и генетике, а также в письменных источниках.

Никто: Пра-балто-славяне когда надо сказать шесть: шииииииишь

Interesting,

@PolishSound

8 ай бұрын

Thank you. Welcome to my channel :)

@PolishSound

8 ай бұрын

Możemy gadać po polsku. Pozdrawiam

@UbysatoShineko

8 ай бұрын

@@PolishSound ta? To zajebiście bo chuja zrozumiałem co tam pierdolisz. Chyba za bardzo po polsku 😅

@UbysatoShineko

8 ай бұрын

Również pozdrawiam.

It is true that the lack of biological, archaeological and anthropological evidence is one of the main facts and premises against the idea of the existence of a common Baltic-Slavic language. The disciplines of biology, archeology, and anthropology play important roles in studying the origins and development of languages, and the lack of evidence in these areas weakens the hypothesis. When it comes to ancient languages, linguists often rely on linguistic evidence, such as vocabulary similarities, grammatical structures, and phonetic changes over time, to trace relationships between related languages. However, this linguistic evidence is not always sufficient to establish the existence of a common ancestral language. The absence of relevant biological, archaeological and anthropological evidence limits the ability to support the idea of a common Baltic-Slavic language. As a result, the prevailing view among linguists is that the Baltic and Slavic languages do not share a distant common ancestor. For now it is nothing more than a conjecture, without evidence transformed into theory, for now a fallacy, because it has no support in anthropology, biology and archeology between these cultural and linguistic groups, which has been proven so far that both descend from the European Proto Indo and the Proto Baltic and separate from Proto Slavic, there was never a supposed Balto-Slavic language, what there was was linguistic contacts between Baltic languages and Slavic languages.

@SmilingShadow-jl5tr

7 ай бұрын

Neither biology nor material culture has anything to do with ethnic identity precisely. 30% of Poles are of direct Germanic decent and Polish material culture changed dramatically after acceptance of Christianity, but the ethnic awareness remained the same. Just looking at archeology, without written records, everybody would assume Slavic people suddenly vanished between 960 and 1280 and were completely replaced by Germans.

@Oberschutzee

7 ай бұрын

🤣@@SmilingShadow-jl5tr

@TSGC16

6 ай бұрын

Do you also believe this is the case for the Indo-Iranian and Italo-Celtic theories?

@marians7364

6 ай бұрын

This is true. I think that wrong theory of Balto-Slavic conjecture is based on wrong theory of Slavic origin somewhere in Belarus area. In the East there were Goths, Huns, Hungarians, Mongols and many more, but Slavs were in Europe long time before middle ages.

@SmilingShadow-jl5tr

6 ай бұрын

@@marians7364 One fact, often overlooked, is that right after Germanic people successfully invaded Western Roman Empire and sacked Rome in 476, only 60 years later, in 535CE there was a significant and successful invasion of Slavic people of the Eastern Roman Empire (Greece). It would seem that, just like Germanic people, Slavic people were in the area and simply revealed themselves when Rome was weak enough to be successfully overcome militarily. Considering that right after the conquest Slavic people stayed in the area (and are in the area to this very day), they were sedimentary rather than nomadic. That means they had to have a staging area in sufficient proximity, from which they moved South-West (or straight down South). It is also worth noting, that only Germanic people are known as “Nemcy” (the ones who do not speak / barbarians) to the Slavs, suggesting that Slavs lived somewhere, where aboriginally the only non-intelligible people they knew were Germanics (please note that in ancient times Northern Germanic - Porto-Scandinavian - was not that much different from the Western Germanic, so Nordic people would also be “Nemcy”). Very high mutual intelligibility between Sanskrit and Baltic languages and a large common vocabulary base (but somewhat different grammar) between Sanskrit and Slavic languages is something I always wondered about. Also, both Baltic and Slavic languages are grammatically closer to PIE and Sanskrit than other Indo-European languages (for example the elaborate declension with 7 cases, that Romance and Germanic and Hellenic languages lost along the way). Even if Baltic and Slavic languages never had a common Balto-Slavic language, they had to somehow be connected to Sanskrit, and further develop under conditions, where there was no need to change dramatically, allowing to retain many of the ancient features that are common with Sanskrit.

Read something about praha-korchak archeological culture - and then you will understand the origin of Slavs. Read about the stepp DNA expansion to Europe and Corded Ware Culture - you'll learn something about Indo-European languages origin

@PolishSound

3 ай бұрын

I read about this and many other studies and concepts and realized that the current interpretations of the data are hasty and insufficient. hence I agree with the opinion of researchers who believe that there were no Balto-Slavics. Even Wikipedia lists a lot of references to the work of researchers who think similarly to me.

czyżby jakiś polski kanał

@PolishSound

5 ай бұрын

No przecież się nazywa Polish Sound. Pozdrawiam

Poljski i Srpski jezik su veoma slični. A postoje i genetski dokazi o sličnosti i zajedničkom poreklu. Da li ste poredili polski sa sanskritom. Srpski ima dosta sličnih reči sa sanskritom.

@Krlowanigu-mg6eg

6 ай бұрын

Tak! Polski i serbski! Pozdrawiam!

@aleksandarnikolic2743

6 ай бұрын

@@Krlowanigu-mg6eg Pozdravljam i ja tebe!🖐

@user-bh9pv5hp6y

4 ай бұрын

genetic analyzes show that the Balkan Slavs have little in common genetically with the rest of the Slavs, but more with the peoples who previously lived in the Balkans.

@user-bh9pv5hp6y

4 ай бұрын

@@Made_moiselle89 genetic analyzes show that the Balkan Slavs have little in common genetically with the rest of the Slavs, but more with the peoples who previously lived in the Balkans.

@aleksandarnikolic2743

4 ай бұрын

@@user-bh9pv5hp6y 40% Slavic and 60% Balkan.! Y dna ,but mitohondrial dna ??????

🤣🤣🤣

Baltic cope

@PolishSound

5 ай бұрын

Zapraszam do nowego nagrania

Что за текст на сайте Энди? Вот этот ближе к протоиндоевропейскому. PROTO-SLAVIC (IE IIIa-b), 1 AD Ovis esvu-ce. ovis, ceso vlina ne jazit, esva speset, inu zaruo vozu vezote, inu-ce meza boru, inu-ce zmonu jasu berote. Ovis nu esvomu vjucet: “Srid aznute me, esvu agotu viru videti”. Esva tu vjucot: “Sludi, ove! srid aznute esmi videtmu: ner, podis, ovjemi-ri vlino sebi germu vestru crinjuti”. Ovjemi-ce vlina ne jaziti. To sésluvŭ óvĭs ágrŭ bugĭt.

@PolishSound

8 ай бұрын

Nie wiem, co jest na stronie Andy. Tu jest moja propozycja. W sieci są w pdfie teksty z różnymi wersjami. Moja propozycja: Owica i ekuńi. Ovica jeż w velne ne est zezerawa ekune vóz velig vezonte....

@vladimirmagnusson9364

8 ай бұрын

@@PolishSound, Я про канал "ILoveLanguages!" и новое видео: PIE & PROTO-SLAVIC kzread.info/dash/bejne/a4aAxJt_dLy0gps.html

@PolishSound

8 ай бұрын

I invite you to film about Polish dialects and middle Polish. How it sounds for you?

@PolishSound

8 ай бұрын

Dziwne, ze trudno znaleźć autoryzowaną przez specjalistę rekonstrukcję. Powyższa była w pracy "A Storm of Words vetera verba, priscae linguae Carlos Quiles with contributions by Fernando López-Menchero" dostępnej w internecie, ale w tej pracy wersja prasłowiańska jest podana za Wikipedią natomiast w wikipedii nie ma podanego autora rekonstrukcji. Jest ewentualnie autor modyfikacji. Dlatego ta wersja wygląda bardziej jak tłumaczenie niż językoznawcza rekonstrukcja szukająca podobnych rdzeni

@vladimirmagnusson9364

8 ай бұрын

@@PolishSound, в польском особое произношение гласных и носовых звуков, но в целом многие слова вполне понятны.

Well anybody is free to prove or disprove any theory, so you do not need to be linguist to do so. But they still need to do it proper scientific way and not make fringe arguments and results. I do not speak any of the Baltic or Slavic languages, but i still see these are obviously quite close to each other, so thats an argument for they had a common proto-language. So denying the potential existence of proto Balto-slavic language seems to be more politically motivated rather than based on actual truth and seeing something wrong on the theory. Great example i would tell how you prove your languages maybe related to something interesting is Armenian. I saw a in a blog great examples and arguments including protential cognates and even grammatical similarities in Armenian comparasion Hurro-Urartian languages. So that's how you prove things.

@PolishSound

5 ай бұрын

You are so hipocritical. I show my theory without attacking anyone, and by blaming me for posting the theory, you make up suspicions without any proof that attack the other person by attributing political motivations to him based on your own assumptions. Hypocrisy

@bvbv6603

4 ай бұрын

If you do not speak the Baltic and Slavic languages, you cannot appreciate the degree of similarities and differences. As a Russian speaker, I can say that there is no more similarity between Russian and Latvian than between Russian and Italian or Russian and English. The names of relatives and body parts in Russian coincide more with English than with Latvian. In general, Baltic and Slavic are different language groups, and the existence of the Baltic-Slavic language was initially only a hypothesis. As a Slavic speaker, I partially understand other Slavic languages ​​by ear, but I absolutely do not understand any Baltic

Razumem- Srbija

It didnt

No, protoslavic is baltoiranianian.

@Ana_Al-Akbar

5 ай бұрын

Maybe. But is there any proof?

@Vil9876

5 ай бұрын

@@Ana_Al-Akbar , The ancestral home of the Slavs is the territory of the south of Belarus, the north of Ukraine, the north-west of Poland, where Baltic and Iranians mixed 3 thousand years ago. In the Slavic pantheon, only two deities (Perun and Veles) are of Baltic origin, the rest of the pantheon is Iranian (Dažbog, Stribog, Mokoša and so on). (At that time, the Baltic and Indo-Iranian languages ​​were different, like dialects).

@Ana_Al-Akbar

5 ай бұрын

@@Vil9876 Even if they mix, it doesn't make them a baltoiranian language family.

@Vil9876

5 ай бұрын

@@Ana_Al-Akbar , A new culture emerged in the Indo-European language family, which strengthened over the course of a thousand years, and appeared in history as Sclavins, Veneds, and Anti's. And 2 thousand years ago, they began to assimilate neighboring nations.

@Ana_Al-Akbar

5 ай бұрын

@@Vil9876 You know the video is about languages? There is no language family called baltoiranian.

If you judge by the living languages, the Baltic is closer to the Indic (Sanskrit), whereas Iranian is closer to Slavic.

@PolishSound

3 ай бұрын

IT depend Look: kzread.info/dash/bejne/YmyMm5iOosnVkZs.htmlfeature=shared

Не было таких. Слишком разные языки, даже на уровне корней.

Slavic shouldn't be in ie family, sounds and looks a way different

@Nach956

8 ай бұрын

I disagree. The only slavic language I decently know is russian and could see the cognates with sanskrit, latin and germanic languages.

@PolishSound

8 ай бұрын

most romance languages lost their declension, but most Slavic languages have retained it to this day. it is similar to Sanskrit, Latin, Baltic. and this is a difficult linguistic feature that is usually lost when the language is imposed on new peoples. This would rather indicate the Indo-European nature of the Slavic language.

@kriwient

8 ай бұрын

Slavic is the most conservative IE family after Baltic.

@tocharian_reincarnated

8 ай бұрын

@@kriwient very first time linguists came to india and saw the similarities named the Language family as indo_germanisch while those European linguists were close to their slavic neighbors but no relativities between germanic and slavic family was bedeviled, later slavic and baltic beheld to be cognate. All the way talking the hole pie is just a hypothesis nobody really knows if they were ramfied of one language or their all creole languages and share similarities...

@ghenulo

6 ай бұрын

That's true, but its vocabulary and grammar can be traced back to Proto-Indo-European. It just underwent different sound shifts than other branches (but eh, so did Germanic, but I don't see the claim that the Germanic languages aren't Indo-European).

Протобалтославянский язык это родственник валирийского, эльфийского и других выдуманных языков.