Literally just bought everything out of your description. Wish me luck.

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

6 ай бұрын

Not a bad build. Just don't over tighten the plastic fitting & use Tru Blue. Thanks

@jettbales8172

6 ай бұрын

@@allproexteriorservicesllc5338 Thanks, just got true blue yesterday. Still waiting on parts. Had some bad weather where I'm at the delayed things.

@law0472

4 ай бұрын

What was your total cost for the proportioner?

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

4 ай бұрын

@@law0472 With the GF valves, the total cost is around $375. Thanks

@law0472

4 ай бұрын

Thank you I thought maybe us plastics was cheaper. I built one for about 295. On amazon. Thanks again

thank you, i wasnt expecting a significant difference honestly. but it was very significant.

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

Ай бұрын

That was my thoughts as well. It does matter when trying to dial the % in. Thanks

Nice test ! Thanks for going through all the testing. Excellent information. I guess it’s gotta be apples to apples. Thanks 👍🏼

This is the exact information I was looking for. Thanks a bunch.

I run a ball valve on the water side and two Pentair valves for soap and SH. Ball valve stays open for a house wash I dial the SH between 1-2 number on the Pentair. Works good. I throttle the ball valve back a 1/4 turn for roof washing. I run the SH between 4-5 number. I run a NorthStar 7gpm pump 12 volt. Going on my 3rd year with that pump. I buy my SH at 10 percent. Pentair valves are going on 3 yrs with no problems. I run 200 ft of 5/8s flexilla hose. My system works for me no issues. I will say I tried running a Pentair on the water side at first and it restricted my vertical distance by 10 feet when it was on. The 1/2 inch diameter proportional system is restrictive in my opinion when running a 7 GPM pump. Now a 5.5 gpm might work fine. But just wanted to share what works for me.

@Under_PressureSW

Ай бұрын

What I’ve gathered from the pentairs are they are honestly the same when it comes to percentage. All the way (if you’re using 10%) would be a 50/50 mix which would be 5%. Half way would be 2.5% and so on. The numbers tend to scare a lot of people cause they think the numbers on the dials are 1%,2%,3% etc lol

Thanks for doing this test, I just ordered 2 Pentair valves and planned on using a regular valve for the third. Now I know I need to order a third valve.

@mattspontiacta

3 жыл бұрын

See the above post I don’t run a Pentair on the water side. I run a a ball valve that is left open all the time. Since I switched to 12 percent SH I leave the ball valve open all the time even when doing roofs. Also a Pentair valve on the water side will restrict your vertical distance by 10 ft. It did mine anyways. But do what works for you. This is just my experience.

You got a parts list . Thanks alot . I setup an account with us plastics just because of this .

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

3 жыл бұрын

Jay, I have the parts list in the description. You just need to get your valves. Let me know if you need anything.

You Rock My Friend, Thank you so much for the info I'm going to build one and redo my softwash system.

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!! Let me know if I can help!

Great video. Thanks for the priceless info

Thank u very much for taking the time to do this test and video. Dont think u realize just how much time & money u have saved me as well as everyone watching this video.. Absolutely great helpful/ informative and educational video.. much appreciated my brother...!

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

Жыл бұрын

Danny, thank you for watching & glad I could help! I really appreciate the comment! Wash on Brother!

Great info! Thanks for doing the test, was always wondering what would happen.

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Very educational. This will definitely help. Thanks!

Thank you for your help, I got my parts in and built mine off your video, Seems everyone one else just want to sell us new guys an way over priced class.

Awesome great job on the video. Great explanation of the parts. Well done. Liked 👍. Southeast soft wash got me intrigued and learning a lot. You just helped me put it all together. 😂 I love it.

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

8 ай бұрын

Thanks! 👍

Great video. I liked your trailer build also.

Great info thanks for taking the time to do the test, I am ordering all the parts to build myself one. If i get to doing this full time i step up to the GF valves. But if you keep these clean and take care of them they might last and work just as good.

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed!! They have been holding up well so far. Thanks

Damn,that ball valve is flowin!! I see this set up is only for batch mixing for roof washing and such with 12v.Good info!!

Great content! Thanks for the testing. This is fantastic.

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!!! If you can, get the GF valves. I just upgraded to the GF valves because the Pentairs started leaking.

Super awesome video !!!! Thanks a lot friend and much luck with your business … thanks again!!!

Great test! I have the same metering valve just like that. Great content

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Damn good video man ! I always wondered about a regular ball valve for the water

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!!

Great content! Thanks for sharing.

Yep. I did that test a couple years ago. We utilize 3 valves because it’ll skew the ratios significantly.

@DougP1464

3 жыл бұрын

I found the exact same thing. with the valves all being the same metering valves it can be metered accurately.

@worth-fighting-for

3 жыл бұрын

@southeast softwash can I use 2 gf valves and 1 of the black and white ones (for water)?

@luxury65

3 жыл бұрын

@@worth-fighting-for use a regular ball valve for the water

@luxury65

2 жыл бұрын

@Steve Lagana yes I have

@frankpirrone6032

2 жыл бұрын

And if you have a broken valve, you can rob the water metering valve and replace with a ball valve temporarily

thank you for posting this!

Now that’s quality content. 👍 Thank you for sharing your experiments with the community. I just got a lead on a massive stucco house, downstream broke/sized up on my 4gpm and I’m seriously considering a soft wash 12volt system. This help me to have greater confidence in building my own little system.

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

3 жыл бұрын

DJ, good luck with the build and let me know if I can help!

“Hey catch up”.. I love it when you say that on your vids😂😂 Anyway there’s a brand ASAHI who’s metering valves design solved this phenomenon. By full open the metering valves practically the same inside diameter as the ball valves. If you look at the other metering valves the inside diameter at full open is way smaller than the ball valve, hence less flow! Wash on brother 🤘🏽

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

Жыл бұрын

Good info. I just made some changes to my 12 volt proportioner with Asahi valves. Vid will drop soon!! Wash on brother.

Great video….I’m building one soon!

Awesome content you got yourself a new subscriber 👍

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!!!!

Great test and content bro

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Great Vid! Thanks bubba

Great Great Great video. Big difference!

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!!!

Thanks for sharing

as someone who just took an interest in this trade, i was very curious how this setup worked, i was wondering if each tank had its own independent pump but i see now they do not by the looks of this video and use the same pump to draw each of the chemicals through the same pump out through to the main hose. so thank you for taking the time to demonstrate this and show how it all works and goes together.

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

Жыл бұрын

Glad I could help. Thanks for watching

Great video

Love that. Thank you my man.👍

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!!

excellent video

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!!

Great video thanks very much

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

2 жыл бұрын

Glad I can help!! Thanks

Good info-vid! 👍🏻

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Great tips....

nice trial i was cwondering also bout if it really mattered thanks ...channel pressure washing with love

Good to know

Great video.

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!!

thank you

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Awesome content

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks

Thanks for this video 🤘🏿💯

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

2 жыл бұрын

Anytime!! Thanks for watching!!

Great video! I subbed

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!!

The ball valve is full bore with a much higher Cv (Flow Coefficient) than the non full bore lower Cv Metering (Plug) valve at full open.

What kind of hoses do you use from the manifold to the tanks?

need video on now-watching you flush lines correctly

I have a REMCO 7 GPM pump what size hose should I be coming off the pump to the manifold ?

Great video! Do you know if the size of the inlet hoses will affect the ratio as well?

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

3 жыл бұрын

Not sure about the hose size. I chose to run 1/2" & 3/4" from the proportioner to the pump. Thanks

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You’ll have to use SH to get the actual ratios. I’m sure you know that SH is heavier than H2O (10lbs vs . 8.5lbs per gallon). It might be the same. Either way it would make another great video. Thanks for the content.

@chesterfieldjetwashing

Жыл бұрын

or just add salt to make the weight for testing.

For a 3000 CPM soap which vacuum pressure would you recommend to draw the chemical from the container. Great videos.

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

3 жыл бұрын

Either a container or tank. Thanks

Pentair valves is all you need. They are made for chlorine and the more expensive ones aren’t needed.

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

2 жыл бұрын

Every Pentair valve I had ended up leaking. In my experience, the GF valve hold up much better. Thanks

would you be willing to look at my setup and give me a opinion as to proper soft wash setup and im severly unhappy with my current pump for softwash?

Im still using a 4gpm and 5 gallon bottle.i use a 1/4" ball valve to turn my SH on/off.I also use the same valve as a metering valve if the house isnt too dirty to save a little $.I really want this set up you are showing though.

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

Жыл бұрын

It does help with accuracy for sure. Thanks

Do the lines from each tank have to be the same length going to the mixing valve? Will different lengths of hose effect draw?

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

3 жыл бұрын

No, my lines are different length. Once the lines are filled, then you are good. Thanks

Nice bro.Who has the best video on how to build a proportioner Im gunna want to build one next year?

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

Жыл бұрын

Me. LOL Thanks

Nice ! We need to build one before spring. Can you post a parts list ?

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

5 ай бұрын

It should be in the description. Also, make sure all fitting are schedule 80 & DO NOT use Pentair valves. Thanks

What a lot of people don't understand, is the reason for quality proportioning valves. One look at the cross section of the two valves tells you everything you need to know. That being said... in negative pressure application, it is CRUCIAL to use valves with REPEATABLE CONSISTENCY. Do you need a proportioning valve on you water pickup? Not necessarily. What IS important, is that YOU know YOUR equipment. Know your settings, and the results the produce. Also, know your chemicals. Density and viscosity will effect flow in negative pressure (pickup) applications. A high density/high viscosity foaming agent or surfactant isn't going to flow like a low viscosity solvent/detergent. Take a day and run flow tests on your equipment with the chemicals you use. Keep a cheat sheet with the various valve settings and flow rates.

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed!!!

Assuming the flow rates remained consistent day to day on the first test, wouldn't that result in about 3-4% mixture and more flow overall? Curious what the comparison would be in gpm for the ball valve/pentair vs 2 pentairs wide open.

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

3 жыл бұрын

Not sure about the GPM test. However, with a ball valve flowing more than the Pentair it would dilute the SH%. The pump is only a 5.5 GPM so not sure about the extra flow. Thanks

Do you have a video on the mix ratio for the metering valves? This is the only part I am lost on

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

Жыл бұрын

This video may help. Thanks kzread.info/dash/bejne/jKKO0M2HcafOf9Y.html

Hey brotha. That part 62119 (1/2”MNPT x 3/4” barb, would that be the same part I’d use where the hose comes in and out of the pump? I think those everflo are 1/2” in and out no?

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

2 жыл бұрын

I used the 1/2" x 3/4" from the proportioner to the reel. I know it reduces down but thought it may help. You could use 1/2" x1/2". Thanks

First off thank you i been looking for this! So basically in theory if the GF valves produce 1.4 gallons/min, if you find a ball valve to match the flow rate it should work.

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

Жыл бұрын

Yes, in theory. It would be easier I think just to use another GF valve. Thanks

I suppose I could use ball valves on all three to even it out or would that not be good?

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

3 жыл бұрын

The challenge with ball valves is the metering part. I would recommend 3 metering valves to be accurate.

Great video! Why not just slightly close the ball valve down to match the flow rate of Pentair when spraying with bleach? And when rinsing turn the ball valve fully open so as not to starve the pump and get maximum water volume?

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

Жыл бұрын

That could have worked, but I wanted a more accurate flow. Thanks

It's crazy how guys are out here charging close to $500 to $600 for something you build under $200 bucks. Good info brother we appreciate ya.

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. Thanks!!

can you do a test showing how you would mix ratio's to figure out how you want it set on the metering valves?

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

11 ай бұрын

I will try to get it done. Thanks

Will this proportioner work with a 5.5 gpm machine for softwashing? Or is this better suited for roof washing with a 12 Volt?

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

2 жыл бұрын

Better suite for 12 volt. Thanks

Nice test. I just asked this on a Facebook page today. How long did the Pentair valves last?

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

2 жыл бұрын

They didn't make it to long. I would highly recommend the GF valves for sure. Thanks

Does your flexzilla hose not flatten out and restrict flow when on the hose reel?

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

2 жыл бұрын

We always take the feed hose all the way off the reel to maximize flow. Thanks

Where do I get those Ryobi tips at? Can't find it on amazon

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

2 жыл бұрын

I got them from Home Depot. Thanks

Hey sir, finished up my system and did a job went to rinse off the house with straight water but it was very soapy like there was soap drawing but my valve was off and the soap was not moving. It does not have a check valve like my other 2 lines. I rinsed and rinsed but still same result soapy water. Any ideas ?

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

2 жыл бұрын

It sounds like soap got in to your water tank. You need to add check vales to the water line to prevent back flow. Thanks

Do you think 3/4 inlet from water and same from sh would make any difference in this exact setup?

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

5 ай бұрын

It may help a little bit, but it still a 1/2" on the 12 volt pump. Thanks

Do you have part list for all the parts that is needed to build a proportioner valve?

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

Жыл бұрын

It should be in the description. Thanks

What if the ball valve was smaller than the 2 metering valves? Maybe it would equal out then?

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

3 жыл бұрын

It may work. But if you are only doing roofs through the proportioner, then 2 ball valves would work for sure. You would just always have a 5% or 6.25% depending on your SH concentration.

How do you prime the soft wash system and then when you change the dials, how do you know when the new desired amount of bleach is coming out of the wand? Thanks!

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

2 жыл бұрын

It self primes pretty easily. It takes about 30-45 second to clear the line when changing the SH dial. Thanks

What type and size bulkhead fittings do you use? 1 3/8 to 1/2”

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

Жыл бұрын

1/2" Thanks

Have you try to us a ball valve on the SH and soap?

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

8 ай бұрын

I have not. I decided to just use the metering valves. Thanks

The biggest issue I was wondering about before getting a blend manifold was the size of the suction hose going from the manifold to the pump. I run all 1 inch suction hoses to my 5.5 pumps. I was always told to double the size to whatever size your inlet opening is for your pump which is 1/2 inch. I was wondering if you can do the same for the suction hose going from the manifold to the pump. 1/2 inch seems like it would be a lot of stress on the pump trying to pull through that and also trying to pull from 2 more separate 1/2 inch lines plus another 1/4 in line. Just wondering what the thoughts were on that.

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

2 жыл бұрын

I never tried anything bigger than 1/2" feeding the manifold. I did use a 3/4" from the manifold to the pump, but did not see any improvement. This is why I run a 3-way ball valve on my SH line. So I can convert my SH line to H2O without losing any flow. Hope this helps. Thanks

@Vulcan5911

2 жыл бұрын

@@allproexteriorservicesllc5338 Do you have any vids showing your complete setup and how it is plumbed using the 3-way ball valve etc?

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

2 жыл бұрын

@@Vulcan5911 Yes, I some of my older videos has the plumbing in it. Thanks

Hi Pro. This valves are not too bad, but my setup start leaking after 2 years of use. I'm planning to get the more expensive ones, the one with the orange valve. Did you have used them before? Greeting from Miami Fl.

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

2 жыл бұрын

The GF valve are much better that the Pentair valves. Thanks

And whats the soap line for? Is that instead of just dumping the doap in the sh tank?

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

Жыл бұрын

Yes sir! Also to control the amount applying. Thanks

Have you had any issues with having a bulkhead in the bottom of your chemical tank? I was told the SH will damage the fitting and leak.

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

3 жыл бұрын

I have not had any issues. But I plan to change the tank to a 100 gallon with no bulkhead fitting.

@rcl700

3 жыл бұрын

Why no fitting?

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

3 жыл бұрын

@@rcl700 Fitting in the bottom is a potential leak.

am I wrong in thinking you could just use all ball valves? wouldn't both h2o and sh being set on full open be 5-6% mix, set h20 full and sh to half, now you got 2.5-3% and so on. as for surfactant just crack it open till you like the draw.

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

8 ай бұрын

I think you are correct. We wanted the ability to change the % when needed a little more accurate. Thanks

What was the total cost for the fittings and valves for this proportioner? I see them advertised for 300+

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

3 жыл бұрын

It was about 250 with the Pentair valves

Good job man can you please put all the parts list?, Thank you.

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. I will add the links to all the parts. Thanks

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

3 жыл бұрын

Parts list added! Thanks for watching

I'm not the brightest light bulb, but is there a need to meter the water. Can you just run the ball valve for the water fully open. I understand it has a different flow rate from the pentair valves. But does that really matter. Please clarify. Also wouldn't more water flow be an optimal scenario. I don't know anything, I'm just trying to learn to set up for myself. Thank you

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

3 ай бұрын

Yes, more flow from the ball valve will not give an accurate mix. Knowing the percentages with accurate valves equates to applying to correct solution & chemical savings. Knowing your chemical draw is key in the industry. Hope this helps. Thanks

Use a sweeping 90

Great information. Do you have a parts list?

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

2 жыл бұрын

In the description. Thanks

Have you add a blend manifold to your system?

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

10 ай бұрын

Yes, for both 12 volt & AR45. Thanks

What about if you used ball valves for all three lines?

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

8 ай бұрын

It would work but hard to get an accurate mix with a ball valve. Thanks

Where did you buy those and how much was that setup please I need to know

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

Жыл бұрын

You can get the parts from US Plastics or another vendor. Not sure of the cost in today's market. Thanks

Just subscribed b/c of this video. Thank you! Curious thing, Mike V said a ball valve is more restrictive than a gate valve. Are GF valves gate valves? If not, what is configuration of "metering" valve? Thanks!

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

18 күн бұрын

The GF is not a gate valve. They are metering valve that allow the flow to be metered. We now use the Asahi metering valves on all out or proportioners. Thanks

What is the enter dimension of the ball value vs the metering value?

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

Жыл бұрын

I do not know that dimension. Thanks

Do you have a part number for the metering valves you recommend? I searched the ashai metering valves and they are selling $175 - $225 each. Does that price sound right?

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

2 ай бұрын

Yes, the price seems correct. The part number for the 1/2" is 160521005. You could also go with the 1" & reduce it to 1/2" for future upgrades. The 1" is the same price & the part number is 160521010. I purchase my valves from Indelco. www.indelco.com/products?s=asahi&f%5B0%5D=category%3A522&f%5B1%5D=pipesize%3A29

With the check valve do you have to keep them up right? Or can they be sideways and still work fine?

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

15 күн бұрын

You can mount them upright or sideways. Thanks

Sorry for silly question, but shy do you use a check valve?

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

2 жыл бұрын

So you don't get back flow into your tanks. Thanks

So if youre using 12.5% sh, with both valves open would that be your 6% mix and the more you shut sh valve off the weaker the mix?

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

Жыл бұрын

Correct. Turn the SH valve to half way to get 3% etc. Thanks

@joshuapoche5137

Жыл бұрын

@@allproexteriorservicesllc5338 thanks man

Has me wondering what the difference in pull from Pentre value VS. GF valve is, if any.

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

3 жыл бұрын

Good question. I may order Omer and do a test. Thanks

@worth-fighting-for

3 жыл бұрын

@@allproexteriorservicesllc5338 I just built one with TWO GF valves and ONE of those black n white ones (for water) you think this will be ok?

@allproexteriorservicesllc5338

3 жыл бұрын

@@worth-fighting-for You should be good. I’m thinking about doing the same thing when my valves go bad. Thanks