Good to see they are using our veterans for the production.

Great, now quadruple that production rate please.

@aenorist2431

Жыл бұрын

You mean 200x it? Because quadruple of nothing is still nothing. At 3 (or 12) a year they will be 20 years outdated by the time they can be commissioned into service.

@alangordon3283

Жыл бұрын

@@aenorist2431can’t you count 🤔🤷‍♂️

@bangdobrich

Жыл бұрын

Oi mate after each part put we drink a tea and paint the british flag on the back, LONG LIVE THE QUEEN

@mattatherton6969

Жыл бұрын

3 x 12 is 36 per year for 1 factory.

@Bigdangleebles

Жыл бұрын

I don’t agree that it’s positive news it will take another 7 years to fulfil the order. To the contrary it’s dreadful news and the procurement team need sacking! So, an export market would be totally out of the question then? Any capacity in the UK to build new indigenous light armoured recce/utility vehicles that could compete with the Hummer Sabre? ...Or You could buy 4/5 of them for the price of a jackal...

I've been out of the Army 20 years this May, and the new vehicles in service now look amazing 👏

@zhufortheimpaler4041

Жыл бұрын

"new"..... have been in combat service with the german army since 2011....the UK is just 14 years late to the party

@strippins

Жыл бұрын

The German army by all Accounts is hardly in the best shape either …

@zhufortheimpaler4041

Жыл бұрын

@@strippins well... the Bundeswehr is not the best in shape but the Heer got equipment that is decades ahead of the UK army.

@SuperChudley

Жыл бұрын

@@zhufortheimpaler4041 UK looked at these in 2007 as part of a project started as TRACER way back in 1989. The project changed names e.g. SCOUT or FRES and decided on ASCOD which still isnt in service.

@zhufortheimpaler4041

Жыл бұрын

@@SuperChudley it was between 1996 and 2003. But yes, the UK is setting Benchmarks on how to fail at procurement. Similarly the Challenger 2 LEP Programme, wich only took 20 years to get moving.

Nice to hear some positive news about the British army, let’s just hope that no one cuts corners and theirs enough of them

@dudududu1926

Жыл бұрын

Instruction unclear, the budget will be cut by another 60%

@Steelninja77

Жыл бұрын

@@dudududu1926 Where did you get that. Our defense spending is increasing not decreasing.

@madeanaccounttospillthebor9568

Жыл бұрын

@@Steelninja77 that was a joke. Instructions unclear is a beginning of a meme. (100% sure)

@alanfrost4661

Жыл бұрын

Westminster will give them away

@gustavmeyrink_2.0

Жыл бұрын

Kinda nice that the UK now builds German IFVs under licence but the dude is right: The GTK Boxer is the best. It is fast and incredibly versatile, you can change a Boxer ambulance to a 155mm howitzer or anything in between.

I am a Dutch soldier, we use Boxers already and I've got to say: You won't be disappointed! This is a good vehicle.

@bojanvukobradovic2504

Жыл бұрын

So your judgment is from real war experience?

@bobsjepanzerkampfwagen4150

Жыл бұрын

Pantsergenist?

@donbow450

Жыл бұрын

@@bojanvukobradovic2504 Is the judgement of the airbag in your car from real crash experience?

@bojanvukobradovic2504

Жыл бұрын

@@donbow450 dont blow what can i say?

@Korporaal1

Жыл бұрын

@@bojanvukobradovic2504 No, of course not. No-one has taken Boxers to battle yet. But they are being used in the Baltic, on missions like eFP, and perform well.

There will be 2 factories producing Boxer in the UK. WFEL based in Stockport and RBSL (this video) based in Telford.

@scratchy996

Жыл бұрын

The UK alone has ordered 600+ Boxers, the more production facilities the better. Now there is the new tracked version of the Boxer, that will add to the orders.

He used the phrase ‘bond of trust’ - fantastic

Excellent ex UK military are involved in the build of the Boxer 👍

Australia is building 325 Boxers for its army and recently contracted to build 123 extra for the German army.

@pepe_6931

Жыл бұрын

are they buildung the ifv variant or the "normal" one?

@patta8388

Жыл бұрын

​@@pepe_6931 The ones for Germans will have various mission modules, from 30mm autocannons to 155mm howitzers

@uncle7162

Жыл бұрын

So the Bushrangers are made in Victoria while the Boxers with Turrets is built in Queensland

@ad.6472

Жыл бұрын

They killed all thr manufacturering in Australia. No more Toyota, Holden and the likes. Raises a lot or questions about the quality.

@seanlander9321

Жыл бұрын

@@ad.6472 No questions on quality raised when it’s Germany asking for the supply. But yeah, the Conservatives have always despised Australian industry, they have an import mentality as they’re knuckle-draggers.

3 a month, well that will really show our capabilities off to our ancestors.

@TheRst2001

Жыл бұрын

There is a Stockport plant to open as well , do hopefully will double to 6 a month 😅

@kristianmolloy8622

Жыл бұрын

@@TheRst2001 The stockport plant is already open and building them i live near it WFEL use to be Vickers they been building armoured vehicles and repairing western tanks for years

@isunlloaoll

Жыл бұрын

This is one of two productions lines (RBSL and WFEL). So the total is probably 6 or more a month, so 72 a year. The UK has order over 600 boxers in total, so 2030 sounds about right for all to be delivered.

@Joker-yw9hl

Жыл бұрын

Funny thing is I thought 3 a month was alright. That's one built every 10 days

@BangOlafson

Жыл бұрын

that's usually sufficient if no one is shooting at you :) Losses in peace times are usually limited to RTA's and other accidents and items which have been serviced poorly :)

It's incrediblie how modular this platform with the many modules is - transport, medic, leading, IFV, support(105mm), AA(Skyranger) and soon one of the newest 155mm howitzer the RCH-155. And there are modules from several manufacturers. So much more should be possible.

@philippeteranderl1669

Жыл бұрын

@@nathanielbugg7355 I am not sure if a turret has been made for that yet, but the capability is absolutely there

@dungu8180

Жыл бұрын

@@nathanielbugg7355 don't know if the 105 L7 will fit, but there are Boxers with 105 mm turret from the Belgian company John Cockerill.

@hagenlukas-kock2701

5 ай бұрын

The fact that there are modules from different companies is also very astonishing to me. I believe this will work wonders for the longevity of the vehicle.

I must add to the 'bond of trust' statement. Spot on - really impressed this industry guy gets it. Taxpayer entrusts industry to deliver best possible affordable equipment to the troops.

The Germans are as usual bad-ass-egnineers when it comes to building bad-ass machines like these!

The Warrior was produced up to 3 per day!

@23GreyFox

Жыл бұрын

And some companies producing 1000 toasters per day.

@thewomble1509

Жыл бұрын

@@23GreyFox A toaster is slightly less complex than a modern AFV.............

@teatanks6481

Жыл бұрын

Produced during the height of the cold war, exclusively in the UK. Boxers are also built in Germany.

@bigdevil73

Жыл бұрын

@@teatanks6481 and in Australia. Bundeswehr has ordered boxers from Australia. Everyone works together, whoever has free capacity produces. and each army decides how many vehicles and how often they want to get - it's also about training. If you want more - you pay more money and industry builds new factory.

@hdmccart6735

Жыл бұрын

@@thewomble1509 Which I believe was his entire point.

Rifles: fixed and updated by Heckler & Koch APCs: made by Rheinmetall

@thegoat11111

Жыл бұрын

I would rather have a German government as well. At least the Germans have decent social benefits and pensions.

@hartmutwrith3134

Жыл бұрын

Is it a problem? Problem for your soul or a problem for UKs army? I say it is an asset.

@BNP_-rb8ic

Жыл бұрын

@@thegoat11111 As a German. Trust me. You don‘t.

i live in the uk and saw a armoured military vehicle the other day just driving the road and it was the same size as a truck hope when these new ones get fully into production i can see some of these on the road aswell

Great to hear, we need to get more factories going, rebuild our tri-services and we’re back on track

Brilliant for local economy and the workforce, quality equipment as well

I’ve noticed the welders running beads to validate their skills in site using German Lorch welding machines

BOXER is the best 8x8 Wheel-Tank in the world with multifunctional possibilities. We are proud that our german tank will also build in uk from experts for the british army. It is interessting to know that the german army will change the strukture of field army. In future the german army have 3 different kind of troops. 1. light combat units (like paratroopers etc.) 2. middle combat units 3. heavy combat units. The middle combat units will only be equipped on wheel-based vehicles and the BOXER will be the main weapon system in various variants. From wheeled-IFV with a 30mm machine cannon, troop carrier and up to 155mm wheeled artillery (RCH155). It is a big change in german army but I love the new middle combat units. Powerfull and fast on wheel based BOXER.

Looks a brilliant bit of kit

Let's hope it all goes well 🤞🏻

260 in total and a build rate of 3 a month?? So the Army will get the last one in 2032, no wonder the US no longer consider us a Tier 1 power!

@splatoonistproductions5345

Жыл бұрын

@@theincrement4898 hah, can’t take it back from an Argentina that has no fighters in range of the islands, no navy to speak of, and probably still using children as soldiers. honestly that’s laughable

@splatoonistproductions5345

Жыл бұрын

@@pr7638 you’d think w the situation going on in Europe they’d have a bit more haste or have more locations building the same number of units per month, here’s hoping something gives them the right kick up their backside

@johnallen7807

Жыл бұрын

@@theincrement4898 Which is incorrect given the two new carriers but, more importantly, the almost complete down grading of the Argentine armed forces.

@johnallen7807

Жыл бұрын

@@pr7638 Indeed but it's the lack of production capacity that is the true scandal.

@itwoznotme

Жыл бұрын

do any of you live in the real world?

Stronger together!

Great work everyone, gotta admit would love to drive one around off-road, please build more and send some to us in NZ please! Good to hear positive news, good for jobs and businesses. UK/NZ

@zhufortheimpaler4041

Жыл бұрын

Buy some from the local production in Australia, they got spare capacity

@quizzical342

Жыл бұрын

@@zhufortheimpaler4041 might do that and go off road thanks!

@zhufortheimpaler4041

Жыл бұрын

@@quizzical342 I've sat in one in the back off road. It's amazing

@ljnouata9088

Жыл бұрын

@@zhufortheimpaler4041 is it like a dump truck

@zhufortheimpaler4041

Жыл бұрын

@@ljnouata9088 sure, its big. like every modern wheeled APC. Thats due to the Mine Protection and off road capability. And its better protected than the average tracked IFV

Nice to see you are now keeping up with germanys standards rather than the USA.

@MrSatyre1

Жыл бұрын

It's funny because you believe what you said.

@nospoon4799

Жыл бұрын

That's funny because that is basically a Stryker. A US vehicle that is near twenty years old.

@WAJK2030

Жыл бұрын

@@nospoon4799 no it is not. Its nearly double the size and has proper IFV protection

@hassyg4083

Жыл бұрын

F22 is better than anything the Germans can produce

@patta8388

Жыл бұрын

​@@nospoon4799 You just disqualified yourself from any discussion about the topic, my friend

Always liked the Boxer, aesthetically beyond it's versatility

Excellent.

The Boxer is a clear example of what two of the mightiest nations - the UK and Germany - can achieve if they work together towards a common goal. And the common goal is evident - protect our own european realm and civilizations from the ever growing threats of tomorrow and the rise of extremism and the unpredictability of the dictators and tyrants of the East. Huge respect from your humble NATO partner - Bulgaria

@leonardus6791

Жыл бұрын

You're looking in the mirror?

The UK seriously need to build up their military strength, especially their Navy which has been downsized since after the Falklands War.

@splatoonistproductions5345

Жыл бұрын

It’s going to be expanding, the mod confirmed that, and as far as I can tell intend to keep that promise, just taking longer than even I’m comfortable with

@PotatoSalad614

Жыл бұрын

@@splatoonistproductions5345 expanded to what it was 10 years ago

@wjf0ne

Жыл бұрын

Evil Fingers Nah! They'll be refurbishing cruise ships to facilitate illegal immigrants.

@cliffordwebb3656

Жыл бұрын

We've got two carriers, but only enough other vessels for one carrier group. And we also have to borrow F35s from the Americans to put in them!

@PotatoSalad614

Жыл бұрын

@@cliffordwebb3656 theyre still being delivered

Production of 3 a month is nowhere near good enough. We string out these procurements to spread the cost but it means 10 years where we'll be operating under our proposed capability. And this is a project that started in 1996! So nearly 30 years for it to first get into service and 40 before it's fully deployed. So the last unit to be equipped will receive a 'new' vehicle that should be about ready to be replaced.

@23GreyFox

Жыл бұрын

With the background that Britain closed down nearly every production facilities, it's a start. The British production sector is tiny compared what it was 30 years ago.

@LynxSwe

Жыл бұрын

Tax money then we milk out all we can mentality

@patta8388

Жыл бұрын

3 are only from this factory. There's a second one in the UK and Rheinmetall also has a line producing them in Germany

Three a month? You guys been paying attention as to what’s going on in the world right now?

3 a month doesn't sound like much, but consider that this is only secondary production, the main stuff is in Germany which outputs them much faster. At the very least it's keeping veterans employed.

@seanlander9321

Жыл бұрын

Australia is supplying the Germans with 123 Boxers in an 18 month contract as well as building 325 for its own use over two years. Britain can’t match that delivery schedule.

@teatanks6481

Жыл бұрын

@@seanlander9321 but we don't need to, the point isn't shifting to domestic production it's about providing jobs to veterans while also benefitting the total vehicle count.

In Forces News We Trust

Go Britain!

I think some of you don’t understand the reason for the production rates. 36 a year, so what rate do you want? How about 100 a year. Finish in 6 year, then factory closes then what! The reason production is slow is to keep parts and replacements available after 6 years then you got training and ammo production that needs happen too. Think about it, the factory closed in 10 years you need to replace 10 destroyed boxers. You will not have a replacement available either you spend a fortune reopening the factory or new versions from somewhere else. It is best to try and balance production to as close as possible the vehicle life span.

BRAVO !!!!!!

@aliancemd

Жыл бұрын

Finally allowed to build a German military vehicle in UK

the two welding in the beginning is awesome!! you know they are just doing that for the camera. If you know you know.

that welding two pieces together looks like welding practice to me =P

Woah 3 a month, big numbers

We need more than just three vehicles per month. They should be achieving a minimum of 5 to 10.

@DanTube2010

Жыл бұрын

It's possible they're making more than 3 per month. Always a good idea to lie about certain details. ;)

@regarded9702

Жыл бұрын

​@@DanTube2010 I don't think they can lie about stuff like this. They have to be open about what they are paying and what they are getting at some point, usually in a defence council meeting.

@TheRst2001

Жыл бұрын

There's a 2nd plant in Stockport to open up so hopefully at least 6 a month

@davidhouseman4328

Жыл бұрын

Production speed is generally based on order size rather than capacity. If the order was bigger they'd build up more capacity.

@hassyg4083

Жыл бұрын

hopefully they tell the german factories to seed up

I think they will be building well past 2030. West needs 100s of these.

We need to step up production

They're going to need to pull their fingers out on this one. In 7 years it could all be over. I'm the first to say build in Britain but when it's crunch time you have to compromise. I'd have said build half of them on the continent and half in Britain and do it as quick as you can.

@tinysaxon3826

Жыл бұрын

The Army don't need that many as we haven't got an army anymore

@i.jwilson2885

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, I believe the plan is to drag out defence procurement for as long as possible, so that when hostilities are finally over, the Government can just go back to cancelling expensive defence programs without actually finishing them.

@Pirate928

Жыл бұрын

@@tinysaxon3826 That's a separate but also serious problem. Although I suspect manpower would be the easier of the things to get sorted if we got into a war. It'd be the equipment that would take the serious time, that's why we need decent stocks in advance. Tanks, warships and so on can't be produced overnight.

@Pirate928

Жыл бұрын

@@i.jwilson2885 Sounds about right. I'm far from a lefty or a liberal but these lot even do my head in. They're useless.

@om7303

Жыл бұрын

​@@tinysaxon3826 Smaller economies cannot support a large scale military in the long term, its part of the reason NATO has been established. Our allies can help fill holes in our force and vice versa.

Turreted versions with a 30 mm are needed not just with gpmg’s, 50 cals and gmg’s

They produce 3 a month. They need to pump up those numbers.

Now they need to set a production line for Tracked Boxer.

Boxer has a massive advantage over Ajax -- it works and is fit for purpose.

@zhufortheimpaler4041

Жыл бұрын

The Ajax debacle is really mind blowing. The uk didn't even developed a new vehicle but decided to take a matured platform wich has been in service for up to 3 decades (ascod) and slightly modify it. And still they messed that up

@fizzyb00t

Жыл бұрын

@@zhufortheimpaler4041 Yes. UK should either buy military off-the-shelf, or have a nationally-owned capacity to design and manufacture armoured vehicles, which would be given continual orders. Of course, for ideological reasons the government are against nationalised industries. So if they wanted Ascod, they should have bought it as-is, not sought to gold-plate everything.

@zhufortheimpaler4041

Жыл бұрын

@@fizzyb00t lets put it like this: with BREXIT this ship has sailed and the UK will be relegated to license taker not license maker...^^

How many years has it been since the British pulled out of the Boxer programme? Now we decide to go back in.

@jureeratpholseela7508

Жыл бұрын

withdraw in July 2003 / March 2018 it was announced by the UK government that it was re-joining the Boxer programme, and in April 2018 it was announced that Boxer had been selected by the British Army to meet its Mechanized Infantry Vehicle (MIV) requirement. No details relating to quantity, cost, timeline or any contractual status was given. Basically they did nothing and are just buying the one that they partially build ... Artec had signed agreements with UK suppliers, this contributing to the fact that 60% by value of the MIV contract will be done in Britain, along with final assembly of the MIVs at facilities already owned by the consortium. Could have been better .

welding test plates... nice

Awesome

Good to see some ex REME representatives it gives confidence that construction will e as required!

This looks the business

That is ridiculous, the first production ones will be worn out by the time the last are delivered. We need at least twice or three times the number with the manpower to use them all and delivered in less than 3 years.

@cypeman8037

Жыл бұрын

They'll be worn out doing what? We'll need two or three times that number, for what? We need delivery in less than three years, why, what's happening?

@thewomble1509

Жыл бұрын

Originally, the number of vehicles was going to be 500+. When was it reduced?

@andrewholdaway813

Жыл бұрын

@@cypeman8037 Training Losses War

@zhufortheimpaler4041

Жыл бұрын

well, you see.... that happens if you shut down your factorys in 2004, due to failing at every export bid and at every domestic developement project since 1994. You just got no factories and trained personell to produce more and have to start from scratch. This is building armored vehicles with training wheels and from a foreign template

@cypeman8037

Жыл бұрын

​@@andrewholdaway813 If they wear out in training they're not very good. How do you lose a big thing like that? they're hard to misplace. Is a ear expected?

3! a month! 36! a year amazing!

@zhufortheimpaler4041

Жыл бұрын

thats more than the UK produced over the last 17 years. there is just no basis to build upon and all a fresh start. The UK has not build anything armored since 2004. You simply lack the facilities and personnel for a larger production or even domestic developement.

@TheRst2001

Жыл бұрын

Not quite true we still have the plants , expertise , and capability from weapons to Hull, but the uk industry has become too fragmented. Mainly lt because we have allowed industry to be bought out by foreign companies and poor hovt planning

Will they ALL have giant Union Jacks painted on the back?

The interchangeable boxes got me thinking... someone at RBSL has been watching some old thunder-birds episodes. Great idea nevertheless.

Coming from Strykers(RV, ICV and Dragoon) I wish I could hop on and drive a Boxer

I always thought Telford was in Shropshire, not the West Midlands Must had got it wrong then

I believe 300 boxers platforms are being precured

@AnthonySpringall

Жыл бұрын

Over 600 ordered

Looks like a large Saracen from behind.

Give our lads and lassies the best ,as they give theirs.

ONLY 7 years to get an existing mature vehicle into production, thats fast.

We need to expand production to include the tracked variant, to replace the failed AJAX IFV. Also, overall capacity needs to increase by a factor of at least double.

At that rate it'll take until the end of the decade by the time the paltry number are all delivered.

@danbatesy5492

Жыл бұрын

Just look at the challenger 3 that don’t start till 2030

@tankythemagnorite9855

Жыл бұрын

​@@danbatesy5492 it's actually 2027

@danbatesy5492

Жыл бұрын

@@tankythemagnorite9855 must have made it earlier then 2030 seem a article on the the government site saying 2030 and still my point is that’s still some time away just for 148 tanks we’ll upgrades.

@itwoznotme

Жыл бұрын

tell ya what, you arrange the tax hike and getting back in to power at the next election and all will be ok.

@danbatesy5492

Жыл бұрын

@@tankythemagnorite9855 yes I’ve just checked it is 2027 but it says from 2027 so that could mean anything from 2027 onwards.

If there was an emergency, and you had no choice, how much beer can fit in the back?

3 a month is a disgrace and the man stands there trying to make this sound positive. We should be building 20 a month.

read between the lines this is a riot veh

Has anyone ever tried making a 10 wheeled APC?

3 a month. Wow. They're killing it. Wtf...

@rid1bee

Жыл бұрын

Do you have any idea how complex these vehicles are? It's no more just mechanical engineering, these vehicles have got a lot of electronics as well.

I am glad the Britain is using the boxer and we need more of them and with the challenger 3 upgrade as well hopefully Britain can relearn how to build tanks again after losing that strategically important capability thanks to the Ajax program.

Looks like anti-tank brimstone launcher version there

623 Boxers, not 263 as stated.

3 a month , wow ...........the state of this country

Thats a mean looking bit of kit.

260? Doesn't sound like enough. 🤔

Produced in the Midlands?? Hopefully the quality is better than the cars which have been build there. 😁

1:01 I think they made the ambulance a bit too small. Not sure how they're going to fit anyone inside of that.

@ayylmao1558

Жыл бұрын

They put the stretcher in top

Britain needs to crank up the production. Germany decided to create medium heavy forces and are now surprisingly buying Boxers from Australia but it is not nearly enough! There is a lot of money to be made with the Boxer!

Still be online before the berated Ajax what a shambles that has been!

260 / 3 = 7.2 Years. Seriously? Sounds a bit long for delivery on the entire order.

Finally lets get to it guys! bet boxer will be better than Ajax in every way 😂

@aliancemd

Жыл бұрын

Well, it was designed by the Germans, and built and tested for over a decade, so obviously it will be better.

@chrisbacon3071

Жыл бұрын

@@brokenpotato438 mate the Ajax isn't in serves yet and of course the Boxers production is god awful it just started for crying out loud! look the British army says the Ajax will be in serves in 2040 but the Boxer will be a full fleet in 2030 what vehicle has had less problems over the last cupel of years because I can say with confides its not the Boxer the Ajax has been a waste of money time and recourses and the only way to see if it can come back from that is to keep it going which is still not good! (sorry didn't mean to make this long)

@dalejrose1287

Жыл бұрын

Ajax and boxer are for two different purposes. Boxer is the warrior replacement and Ajax is the cvrt replacement and all its variants

@chrisbacon3071

Жыл бұрын

@@dalejrose1287 yeah no the Ajax is meant not only to replace the CVRT fleet but all so the warrior fleet and the Boxer and Ajax will then work together but Ajax’s is still in testing and no production variance exist only the prototypes and the Boxer hasn’t even left the production line yet got a lloonngg time to wait 😢

@ackerkartoffel8627

Жыл бұрын

The latest German vehicles where overcomplexified which resulted in maintainance complications

I would love to take it shopping at asda😅🎉

While a capable vehicle they are absolutely MASSIVE. They dwarf a Challenger . Also , at well over 30 tons and with 8 wheels not exactly great in the mud.

@davidhouseman4328

Жыл бұрын

While they are massive they're a similar size to challenger.

Mount an automatic Gatling gun on the top as well.

3 a month starting from next year thats would take 7 years to produce all of them :)

@patta8388

Жыл бұрын

There's a second factory in the UK and Rheinmetall also has a production line in Germany

3 a month? You need to call the A team

Where was the Boxer 1st designed please?

Excellent hope allies also purchase them

@Iauchmitschlauch

Жыл бұрын

They arent for britain to sell. Its a german vehicle build with a license

@martinstock

Жыл бұрын

@@Iauchmitschlauch Germany ordered just 100+ Boxers worth €3B from Australia. The 2 British factories producing Boxers will be however busy for the next few years producing the numbers ordered for the British army. As long as they won't manage to increase the output considerably. Further customers would surely benefit all countries using the Boxer.

@davidhouseman4328

Жыл бұрын

​@@IauchmitschlauchThe UK rejoined the program rather than build on license so export are possible.

@Iauchmitschlauch

Жыл бұрын

@@davidhouseman4328 rejoined my ass. The UK dropped out early because they thought they could do better. Now the design is in use for over a decade. They "rejoined" by buying the license. Its not british in any way except being build there.

@davidhouseman4328

Жыл бұрын

@@Iauchmitschlauch they rejoined what else can I tell you, whether or not it's justified it happened.

I can't say I'd trust a brunmie with my wife, but I'd certainly trust one with a welding shroud.

Reportedly, Russia is producing 3 tanks a day, with plans to build another 2 tank plants. Producing 3 APCs a month just goes to show to wrong the UK government and armed forces have underestimated mass production of armour, weapons and ammunition. In this day and age, its extremely difficult to build or find funds for mass production plants.

@OleLeik

Жыл бұрын

A sober estimate is 20 tanks a month across the two Russian tank factories, and struggling at that. Can those Boxers be produced faster? Yes, but increased production capasity must have suffikent orders . A planned production of 50 annually for a order of 300 seems about right to me

@gerardyoung8982

11 ай бұрын

The Russians are refurbishing tanks not only building new ones so lots of old litchis being tarted up painted a bit and sent to the front They can build 3 T90s a day the question is will they work for very long

It's a bit of a shame we can't be designing and producing these vehicle in house.

Ridiculous it's taken 6 years of testing to start these vehicles... they were a no-brainer.

3 a month? That’s not many.

Made as many as possible

So where are all the rest getting built ? there seems to be confusion on the numbers also . £2.8 billion for 523 boxers or 623 boxers ( first batch ? ) , there was also a report from the NAO stating the British Army had a requirement for 1305 boxers and funding was only in place for 1016 boxers which seems a huge number for the 5 mechanised battalions , just as an example just under 800 warriors was enough to equip 8-9 infantry battalions .

@davidhouseman4328

Жыл бұрын

So as far as I know 523 was the original order for £2.8bn. That was to work along side a life extended warrior and was more of a mastiff type replacement. With warrior cancelled the order was quickly increased to 623. 1016 and 1305 are plans rather than orders and I imagine highly subject to change. There is a second UK site in Stockport as well as some being built in Germany.

3 a month? I hope production speeds up 'cos to fulfill an order of 628 will take 17+ years to final delivery ..

@davidhouseman4328

Жыл бұрын

There's a second UK site and also some being built in Germany.

Looks like updated saracen

More Challengers needed. Forget insurgent wars

Rolling down your British streets any day now !