Best timing, it just got added to war thunder.

@ceoofdazn7615

3 жыл бұрын

🤔

@BarManFesteiro

3 жыл бұрын

why do you think he made a video about it?

@kokonidas_9873

3 жыл бұрын

it was his sponsor

@RAMMSTEIN4HIMMER

3 жыл бұрын

Lol right?

@i_nameless_i-jgsdf

3 жыл бұрын

Wow it is almost as if he is being paid by Gaijin to sponsor their game !

Its basically a faster T-72B3 with slightly better armor

@stilpa1

3 жыл бұрын

It has worse base armour, and far worse turret armour. It has better speed. And better era. That is it.

@AverageWarCrimeEnjoyer

3 жыл бұрын

@@stilpa1 Wrong. T 80BVM is based on t 80U hull and late production T 80BV turret, which is almost identical to T 80U

@tomk3732

3 жыл бұрын

T-72B armor is far better then in T-72A (aka T-72M1) and T-80 turret / other armor is same as on T-72A. Thus T-72B is better armored then T-80. Thus upgrades to T-72B make more sense.

@nemisous83

3 жыл бұрын

@@tomk3732 not even close T-80B uses an improved version of Composite K where as T-72A uses "Dolly Parton" composite K is better than Dolly Parton but a tad bit worse than "Super Dolly Parton" used on T-72B regardless you are talking about a difference in protection of about 50mm maximum which largely insignificant. That plus T-80BVM uses relikt where as B3 uses K-5.

@tomk3732

3 жыл бұрын

@@nemisous83 Video shows exactly same quartz as in T-72A and exactly same texolite as in T-72A. T-72A was designed before ERA was standard. Thus the emphasis of it was against both Kinetic and HEAT. T-72B mod 85 and later mod 89 had ERA as standard, first one Kontakt-1 and later one Kontakt-5. Thus their armor outside of ERA was strictly against kinetic and there was no textolite or no kwartz present. Are you saying video is wrong and T-80 this mod is based on had different armor?

The problem is arjun, it’s too strong against all MBTs.

@mrrexychomp9829

3 жыл бұрын

@The Chief Musician of the Gods a brief history of Cuba? are you a bot

@a.m.armstrong8354

3 жыл бұрын

My thoughts entirely..

@mochiisntbad6762

3 жыл бұрын

Bullshit Arjun just screams second place, bob semple is where its at

@Xcelcior6780

3 жыл бұрын

No Arjun Tank Can Destroy A Black Hole Dont Underestimate It🤪

@mrrexychomp9829

3 жыл бұрын

@@Xcelcior6780 the Bob semple tank could destroy this universe and travel onto the next

Russia's wasting time upgrading their tanks. They should just order Arjun and become unstoppable.

@milfshake6944

3 жыл бұрын

Haha!

@sneakycactus8815

3 жыл бұрын

LMFAO

@GTBANNA

3 жыл бұрын

Right!

@bintangabdullah1949

3 жыл бұрын

hahahahhahahahahhaha

@hospitaller100

3 жыл бұрын

Is arjun the new meme? lmao

I love how this thing just got added to War Thunder yesterday

@sampanyofella5832

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah they sponsor him. Pretty neat that we get to learn about the irl tank then play it in a game. ...well after you've played for 60 hours to grind the 1 tank out...

@killthemall55

3 жыл бұрын

@@sampanyofella5832 grinded it in 4 hours lol. Provided, i received 250k rp from module bonuses

@sampanyofella5832

3 жыл бұрын

@@killthemall55 oh that makes sense. I should stop spading things in that case :P

@jamegumb7298

3 жыл бұрын

@@sampanyofella5832 I wish I could do it in just 60 hours.

@TheArcticFoxxo

3 жыл бұрын

Goodbye 3BM42M... Hello 3BM46

It wasnt meant to be a perfect mbt. This thing can start its engine at - 50 degrees in cold arctic winter

@srelma

3 жыл бұрын

Is Russia expecting the next Napoleon/Hitler to show up at Moscow's doorstep in the middle of winter?

@neki203

3 жыл бұрын

@@srelma they have T 14s and T 90s for that

@csme07

3 жыл бұрын

@@neki203 and the T72 B3

@radonsider9692

3 жыл бұрын

@@srelma nope. They guard the extreme cold parts of their country. (Not Moscow or Western parts)

@spamstabber

3 жыл бұрын

@@srelma T-80s are used to defend their assets in the arctic because of their ability to operate in extreme cold. That is pretty much the only thing they are used for.

The poor T-80U's just crying out of neglect, wondering why the Ukrainians made the Oplot while papa Putin's friendzoned him for an inferior variant or the T-72 fam.

@dankerxd4108

3 жыл бұрын

Why dont they just get rid of the T-80s and make more T-90M

@johngezon1220

3 жыл бұрын

@@dankerxd4108 This is the real question. My only thought is perhaps they are keeping gas turbine around for artic opps where it may have an advantage vs tradition diesel but I can confirm none of it. Could be a political reason as well.

@jakub0447

3 жыл бұрын

@@johngezon1220 iirc they are indeed meant to be used in arctic regions where diesel engines do not perform so well. Then it kinda makes sense to have turbine powered tanks to guard these territories

@Silver_Prussian

3 жыл бұрын

@@johngezon1220 t 80 is probably the best tank for the cold, if any foreign power tries to invade from the east which would be suicide and its not likely that anyone would go to siberia

@Silver_Prussian

3 жыл бұрын

@Prince Harambe one man sead you destroy russia, you destroy the world, preaty sure its been made clear the russia can not be tamed but keep dreaming

Man its funny seeing these things abandoned due to running out of fuel in Ukraine

@jds6206

2 жыл бұрын

Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦

@Charliee_Woofy_Pz

2 жыл бұрын

Ukrainian farmers: hippity hopity this tank is now my property.

@martinbaldwin1906

2 жыл бұрын

Before the invasion and on the training, crews have been selling their diesel. That really was happening..

@Charliee_Woofy_Pz

2 жыл бұрын

@@TonyBustaroni cope,

@zagreus5773

2 жыл бұрын

@@TonyBustaroni How did conquering Kiev go for you guys?

Really wish they’d added T-80UE-1 or T-80UD instead of T-80BVM. But at least it still have the 1985 UFP. Edit for capitalization

@yosawin3018

3 жыл бұрын

Sadly the producer,(Omsktransmash,I think) went bankrupt(due to the decision to fund other company and Russia had bad time after the fall of USSR), otherwise Russia may come up with better tanks,since they did have some interesting projects.

@big_comrade

3 жыл бұрын

@@yosawin3018 yes they were bought by the company that produces T-72 and T-90 so the company still exists. Believe Red said in previous video that they made T-80BVM to milk money out of the modernizing the tanks instead of creating something truly effective.

@raff257

3 жыл бұрын

@@yosawin3018 yeah if Uralvagonzavod had the budget like General Dynamics they definitely gonna make some futuristic tanks

@Eire_Aontaithe

3 жыл бұрын

What about the T-80 U-M1 ? Would be a good addition too, I guess...

@matthiuskoenig3378

3 жыл бұрын

@@yosawin3018 UVZ had some good designs too, look at the object 187 for example, mutch better than the T-90. but the T-90 (object 188) got built instead due to late/post-ussr budgets

I won't play war thunder until the mighty undefeatable 10th generation Arjun tank comes

@FactsInto

3 жыл бұрын

lollllllllllll

@t-90atank35

3 жыл бұрын

Arjun is, supeeehr!

@HOVX.612

3 жыл бұрын

It is over power , so sadly they won't add it 😔😔😔😔

@FactsInto

3 жыл бұрын

@@HOVX.612 arjun is the one tank that can fill all the task, you can drop it in Ocean to kill submarines, it can shoot down satellites flying in space, it can even stop ICBMs, and ofcourse destroy all tanks in the world

@HOVX.612

3 жыл бұрын

@@FactsInto 😂😂 when it aim on the target , it get destroyed

I'm glad to see that the Soviets kept the "TURRET EJECT" feature in their new line of tanks. It's been a popular, sought after feature since WW2. An ageless classic!

@lostvayne104

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@james-im1sj

2 жыл бұрын

Is anyone else using that design

@Aaron-hk6st

2 жыл бұрын

@@james-im1sj Only the ones using the same reload system.

@ytkomar1141

2 жыл бұрын

@@james-im1sj Leopards also has this option.

@NKVD_Enjoyer

2 жыл бұрын

Is that a bad joke?

there is a tsunami of T-80BVM in War Thunder rn, great timing RedEffect

The biggest problem I see now, it's not protective AT ALL against NLAWS and Javelins. Those launchers are making scrap out of any russian tanks

@adrianotaylor7230

2 жыл бұрын

Put an abrams or challenger 2 or even a leopard 2 a7+ against russian kornet and you would get the same result

@misterputin8898

2 жыл бұрын

@@adrianotaylor7230 Maybe they will survive because NATO invest more in APS kits for their tanks while the russians just put a Wannabe Cage on top of their rusty soviet era tanks my dear Russian Bot :D

@youraveragehumanperson219

2 жыл бұрын

@@misterputin8898 sorry kiddo; a kornet flying a bit above the tracks would like to say hello to the tank crew OH also you can just switch aim up to the turret upon that missile getting close enough (and trained operators do that)

@chilliobones5348

2 жыл бұрын

Well multiple RPGs used to wreck western tanks as well and they're much cheaper to produce and carry

@adrianotaylor7230

2 жыл бұрын

@@misterputin8898 you mean the aps that yall buy from israel russian tanks had aps since the 90s t90 shorta system

Think the world is seeing how poor this tank is at the moment, I wouldn’t like to be using one if I was in a war

@tanner1111

2 жыл бұрын

Just goes to show how obsolete tanks are on the modern battlefield. A infantry fired missile launcher can completely obliterate a 2 million dollar machine.

@Nikowalker007

2 жыл бұрын

@@tanner1111 True , Javelins and atgm Hellfire equipped Drones made tanks pretty much obsolete

@knight2425

2 жыл бұрын

@@guyintenn yeah but they are still useful to cowards that like sending them in against civilians

@rxzesereniti9750

2 жыл бұрын

@@guyintenn not true if you pay attention Russia is sending its tank columns with no infantry support snd no sir support either, obviously your tanks will die in mass if you don’t cover there weaknesses.

@aaroncabatingan5238

2 жыл бұрын

@@tanner1111 Its not just about the quality of the tanks. Its also the quality of the tactics Russia is using, or rather the lack of tactics. Common sense and lessons learned from a hundred years ago suggests that tanks shouldn't be moving on their own towards a known fortified position. They should at least have infantry on their flanks or ahead of the tanks. Maybe have air support to keep their enemies heads down. But that's not what they're doing. They're Zerg rushing the Ukrainians with tanks with no close air support which gets them ambushed and annihilated. What's worse? They invaded in spring, which transformed the countryside into mud. Giving the Ukrainians an easy time setting up ambushes. If Ukraine have a more powerful air force they would destroy the Russian army in a matter of weeks and liberate Belarus in a month(because why not?).

Coincident? No way warthunder is on you

@Eire_Aontaithe

3 жыл бұрын

He already got sponsored by War Thunder a thousand times, just use your brain bruv.

@KleinerGrenadier

3 жыл бұрын

@@Eire_Aontaithe wosh

@justapanzercrewmanwithwifi1070

3 жыл бұрын

stinky redditor

@KleinerGrenadier

3 жыл бұрын

@@justapanzercrewmanwithwifi1070 actually i shower every day, also between my asscheeks 👀

@saint_alucardwarthunder759

3 жыл бұрын

@@KleinerGrenadier that's good to know, mate. Amazing intel.

Red: talking about T80BVM Comment section: Arjun meme🤣

They announced that all T-80U will be upgraded to BVM and they will improve firepower, armor and optics. I think that it has potential to become pretty neat tank.

@srbijairossiya3043

2 жыл бұрын

isn't it than t80uvm?

@redemissarium

11 ай бұрын

@@srbijairossiya3043 more like T-80UM3

@arstotzka9088

8 ай бұрын

Already announced, not only that, it's getting the Burlak turret, with the ammo carasoul being moved into the rear turret, laser warning and hard/soft kill systems, advanced infared and thermal optics etc.

Allegedly (based on footage from abandoned/destroyed tanks in Ukraine) the bagged add on armor pouches on the sides are cardboard filled on at least some of the tanks... I guess someone embezzled the funds before they managed to buy ERA inserts?

@Factao

2 жыл бұрын

It's proud Russian cardboard! How dare you imply it is not the best possible type of reactive armor.

@Shaun_Jones

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve heard that it’s the fiberglass spacers that hold the explosives in place. So yea, probably embezzled unless the theory about the explosives being taken out for training purposes and then the invasion order coming in turns out to be true.

@VladRadu-tq1pg

2 жыл бұрын

@@Factao this. Russian bots have a response for every misserable fail of their army and dictator, it's all plan of a masterplan..the big masterplan to flaunt your nukes since otherwise your army is hot garbage.

@arturturkevych3816

2 жыл бұрын

@@Shaun_Jones there are reports that they have cardboard filled in bullet proof vests and some old Soviet steel helmets have covers to make them look like modern tactical ones. The worst are their medical supplies. I've seen videos of their med kits and the bandages have been from 1970s

@Bustermachine

2 жыл бұрын

@@Shaun_Jones Yeah, explosives age out, and even if a tank is hit, most of the ERA charges would not be triggered. So it probably makes sense for the innards to be replaceable. That said, the Russians clearly didn't replace them.

That two-piece ammunition at 0:27 looks like it can start an another sepoy rebellion.

@amadeokomnenus1414

3 жыл бұрын

Haha nice reference

So, the questions that need asking here are: What is the Russian Ground Forces' strategic intent for this vehicle? and Where will it be deployed and against what? The Russian Ground Forces' statements on T-80BVM show that it is intended for service in the Arctic and Siberia. Two places where they will not likely be fighting against top of the line tanks with advanced passive thermal sights. The reason why the T-80BVM didn't get a fancy Commanders Thermal Viewer or Battlefield Management systems is quite simply because they don't need them. They did need the ERA upgrade because shaped charge warheads are a major threat no matter where you go. Why no APS idk, probably can't afford it for 3k tanks intended for deployment in secondary theatres. Thing is with the armor and FCS upgrades the T-80BVM are solid vehicles. They can receive further upgrades if a war does break out relatively quickly but won't be completely outmatched should they be pressed into service in a frontline role before receiving the extra goodies.

@CrowColdblade

3 жыл бұрын

Same stratedgy as always, enter tank, drive into enemy terretory, refuse to leave tank, gets taken out by a dude running around with sandals and a wool shirt. Rince and repeat untill the devision is gone, then declare victory because eho would even check?

@MikoyanGurevichMiG21

2 жыл бұрын

@@CrowColdblade the T-80BVM is still probably possessed by ghosts of tank crews who were roasted by Chechen ATGMs for this reason.

@docvolt5214

2 жыл бұрын

@@CrowColdblade that aged well

They have this problem of suddenly exploding after crossing into Ukraine. Really strange, the Russians should probably try and solve this asap. Someone told me that putting the tank in reverse might alleviate the problem though.

@joeking5679

2 жыл бұрын

This comment will look very stupid in about 2 weeks

@mrwong8584

2 жыл бұрын

@@joeking5679 why?

@TheStephaneAdam

2 жыл бұрын

@@mrwong8584 He's a Russian shill, pay him no mind.

@mrwong8584

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheStephaneAdam so true..lol

@ddandymann

2 жыл бұрын

@@joeking5679 And I'm sure you were saying exactly the same thing two weeks ago.

I cannot wait unit we see a Ukrainian farmer and his friends joy ridding in an Armata T14

@jetseat

2 жыл бұрын

Thats a real tracker pull contest....hahaha

@georgebonanza9487

2 жыл бұрын

What about Chechen Kadyrovites driving T-84s?

@cossack7679

2 жыл бұрын

@@georgebonanza9487 doesn’t happen

@yuricuber6212

2 жыл бұрын

@@cossack7679 because T-84s have been destroyed

@T33K3SS3LCH3N

2 жыл бұрын

That would require Russia to be able to both produce T-14 and bring them to the front line xD

The T-80 is a "Kluge" of old technology, still missing certain absolute necessities on a modern MBT. Ukraine is proving it's an easy victory using a top-attack ATM.

@Triggernlfrl

2 жыл бұрын

NATO's thugs in Ukraine you mean.

@remydaitch9815

2 жыл бұрын

Urkaine will fail

@asdsdjfasdjxajiosdqw8791

2 жыл бұрын

@@remydaitch9815 Shouldn't you be spending your monthly salary on a loaf of bread?

@Fantax92

2 жыл бұрын

@@asdsdjfasdjxajiosdqw8791 I love your reply haha

@remydaitch9815

2 жыл бұрын

@@asdsdjfasdjxajiosdqw8791 Urkaine will fail

This aged well... Though I suppose T-80BVM isn't that bad... as a farm tractor. :D

@mrMen-mo2kg

Жыл бұрын

M1A2 barn

@hasnicktir5310

Жыл бұрын

@@mrMen-mo2kg Leopard combine

@mrMen-mo2kg

Жыл бұрын

@@hasnicktir5310 )))

They seem rather lacking... Especially the turret when they roll into Ukraine.

@redbeard3923

2 жыл бұрын

Hahaha giant frying pans

@savejeff15

2 жыл бұрын

Javelin has entered the chat

the main problem is it tends to explode when hit by javelins or NLAWs.

@niimoo767

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣

@TB-zf7we

2 жыл бұрын

Bad Russian design habit of having ammo stored amongst the crew area.

@shakeypudding6563

2 жыл бұрын

Or panzerfaust3’s 😃

@Bababoy6969

2 жыл бұрын

Russia captured over 2000 javelin and nlaws btw also destroyed 1300 tanks

@TheDrummingWarrior

2 жыл бұрын

@@Bababoy6969 Ukraine doesn’t even have that many tanks but nice try Ivan

Man you make one of the most awesome military videos on KZread. Have you ever considered making video about Polish tank PT-91 Twardy?

Author forgot to mention the context in which Russians decided to upgrade old T-80 BV design into BVM model. T-80 BVM is a model meant for Arctic troops. Thanks to the gas turbine engine and comparatively light weight it is able to pass through deep snow terrain with ease,. Snow also means that enemy vehicles are easy to spot in IR and LLTV channels. Meaning you don't need superb optics to spot a typical US woodland camouflaged M1 against white background. This is even less of a problem since no other army in the world has arctic troops with fielded tank corps. Not even Canada... So in a region where no enemy armor is expected to operate in a nearby future T-80 BVM has pretty damn good characteristics...

@myopicthunder

2 жыл бұрын

all these pseudo expert channels leave out the most relevant pieces of information.

@Flankymanga

2 жыл бұрын

@@myopicthunder yes and i have probably left some as well. We are not experts. I don't intend to sound like one. I just hate when i see a video lambasting a experts decision....

@NocKme

2 жыл бұрын

@EndGameYTcaptain there plenty of examples of stupid designs that gone into production just because everyone was afraid to speak out. Tu22 for example

@NocKme

2 жыл бұрын

Are they going to use it against polar bears? Because no sane military would open a front in Arctic regions. Oh yes Mr. Brown you must be a genius! Lets deploy our paratroopers Novaya Zemlya hundreds of miles away from well anything and have them survive on snow. Those Russians won't know what hit them. Literally.

@99hockeynhl

2 жыл бұрын

To be fair all canadian soldiers have extreme cold weather training. Not to mention in the arctic canada relies mostly on light infantry for the reasons you mentioned. Im not sure what sure what portion of the us army has ecw training but I bet its nowhere near 100%

In WT it’s literally the best tank in the game,and vatniks try to deny Russian bias at all costs.

@number7red619

Жыл бұрын

True, so annoying

Amazingly well detailed videos as always, but could you do a video about the M8 buford AGS ( the US light tank project that got abandoned and restarted around 2016)? I love it’s concept, because the US lacks an armored vehicle more flexible logistically than the abrams while being better protected and armed than a bradley. Since the tanks are still being tested there’s not as much reference material, but I’m sure you’d figure that out. I discovered that tank because it got added as the top reward for the april fools grinding event on war thunder

@militaryanalysis5028

3 жыл бұрын

the M8 is quite a nice light tank, especially with the extra thicc ERA add-on armor modules giving it quite nice protection against RPG's and with the 120 mm gun giving it the same firepower capabilities of a heavy MBT, all combined in a relatively light vehicle to be air transported. It only lacks an independent thermal sight for the commander (CITV), but at least he can still use the gunner's thermal sight (better than nothing). Unfortuantely it also does not have a bunker with "blow-out blast panels" as the rounds are all stored inside the crew compartment (probably in some fire-proof canisters, but it still pose a danger). But I guess that's the downside for most light tanks.

@maplearrow1842

3 жыл бұрын

@@militaryanalysis5028 those are composite blocks and not ERA. I heard that there were plans to also have ERA armor but I am not a 100 percent sure. The 120mm smoothbore was only mounted on a single prototype if I remember correctly. Also the autoloader is completely separated from the crew, so there’s a blowout pannel. You’re right for the hu storage though, that doesn’t look very safe, but most of the shells are at the turret which is also the most likely part to be hit in a tank. I don’t think it needs CITV because 1, it’s meant to bring tank firepower to infantry/airborn troopers and so wouldn’t work independently. With the modernization of the buford m8 that is currently ongoing as the US asked BAE to produce around 20 more prototypes, they might include it. Overall it’s an amazing idea and I don’t get how the US could budget cut that and spend this long without something to replace the sheridan

@militaryanalysis5028

3 жыл бұрын

@@maplearrow1842 well tbh I'm not sure about the actual add-on armor design, all I know is that there are 3 levels of protection and the level 3 can apparently stop RPG's at least. Whether it's ERA or composite armor, it's still doing same result 😂. The crew is still inside the turret tho, even with autolaoder... so I hope the ammunitoion is at least is some fire-proof canisters, otherwise it would be really nasty. But what it really needs is APS that would really help a lot! Who knows maybe it will receive APS in the future (if it gets accepted into the army), everything's possible.

@maplearrow1842

3 жыл бұрын

@@militaryanalysis5028 due to it’s light armor it wouldn’t be dumb to develop a cheaper APS for it. Also I don’t understand what’s the issue with the turret, on one side you have the crew and on the other you have the autoloader. There’s quite a thick blast wall to separate both, and most of the roof above the autloader is made of blowout pannels, so in case of cookout it would never build enough pressure to do serious damage. The only downside with it is that if the turret gets shot sideways and it punctures the wall while there’s a burnout...

@maplearrow1842

3 жыл бұрын

@@militaryanalysis5028 by the way I found out that the two weird rectangles with lines on them on the xm8’s hull are actually the blowout pannels for the hull ammo. I never understood why that was there, but now I know that they didn’t just leave the hull ammo as a risk

I think Russia didn't waste money on developing a RWS & CITS on the T-80BVM since we are now finding out that they are dumping money developing the "Burlak" turret which they plan on mounting on the T-72, T-80, and T-90 tanks, fixing almost every issue they have which most importantly solves the issue with APDFS length limitations of the carousel autoloader, replacing it with a bustle type. I would be more worried about the drive-train, and upgrading the transmission to an auto.

@_b_x_b_1063

3 жыл бұрын

Бурлак давно отменили, это неудачный проект

@juadwhite1391

3 жыл бұрын

@CH Russia should seek help from India to implement Arjun technology in its future tanks.

@saint_alucardwarthunder759

3 жыл бұрын

@@CH3TN1K313 а есть пруфы поубедительнее просочившихся фоток? Потому как помимо них по бурлаковским башням никакого апдэйта не было.

@MonMalthias

3 жыл бұрын

Burlak is a dead project. The manufacturer Omsk is basically dead at this point with most of its military arm and design expertise folded into UralVagonZavod, if not sold off entirely. Nowadays it makes washing machines. I think it extremely unlikely that UVZ will be using anything from Omsk which had a history of unrealistic project costing and engineering specifications. All it would take is UVZ taking one hard look at the blueprints to most likely find many problems.

@CH3TN1K313

3 жыл бұрын

@@MonMalthias UVZ is exactly who is continuing the project. Look at the pics that leaked a few months ago compared to the one's leaked in the 2010's. The design of the turret has been altered, featuring a cover over the protruding ERA blocks which is clearly shown in the pics, what looks like a RWS under the tarp, as well as ERA mounted to the sides of the turret which looks like the Relikt blocks on the side of T-90M Proryv & newer T-80BVM turrets. These differences all seem to be made in the last few years, considering the time frame when they were introduced on the T-90M & T-80BVM, which dispels the idea that this new pic of the Burlak is "the old, abandoned project".

Been seeing a lot of these destroyed in Ukraine lately. Was the armor just incredibly subpar?

@mbtenjoyer9487

2 жыл бұрын

There not destructible you id iot It took 2 javelin to take them down That’s how good they are

@RushZ3r

2 жыл бұрын

@@mbtenjoyer9487 Wait fr? Where did you get the info it took them 2?

@mbtenjoyer9487

2 жыл бұрын

@@RushZ3r a t-72b3 2016 with roof cage armour Was shown taking 1 hit n surviving And got destroyed by the second hit

@icysaracen3054

2 жыл бұрын

To be fair, there were Shia militias knocking out M1A1 tanks with multiple RPGs

@cardboard_shaft

2 жыл бұрын

@@mbtenjoyer9487 lmfao yeah dude “id iot”

Arjun could one-shot this foolish tank.

@ImLiterallyYourDaddy

3 жыл бұрын

Cap

@bananabatsy3708

3 жыл бұрын

No. Even Leo 2A7 cannot pen the upper front plate at 1 kilometer. Only the driver port, lower glacis and breach.

@a.m.armstrong8354

3 жыл бұрын

@@bananabatsy3708 Arjun can penetrate from any distance.

@KingSpittusFactus

3 жыл бұрын

Arjun can't even hit shit. Arjun can't do anything.

@giorgiogalliano05

3 жыл бұрын

@@bananabatsy3708 it’s a joke...

Video was informative but I noticed a lack of fine examples of Imperial technology like the Baneblade or any titans 5/10

I guess it's a decent upgrade so that 2nd line of tanks have some chance in 2021 and onwards for a few years.

Thanks again for another informative and first class video. 👍

hmm War thunder adding t80BVM and red effect making a video about t80bvm You were the one how told gaijin to add the t80bvm Pls tell them to add t90m next patch xD

@jacklarkson4505

3 жыл бұрын

i want l2 a7.

@radonsider9692

3 жыл бұрын

Make----> Abrooms SEPV2, Leo2A7, T-90M, Chally TES, Type 10, Ztz 99A and Leclerc (revisited)

@hibojoe1477

3 жыл бұрын

@@radonsider9692 isn’t the challenger 2 2f a challenger 2 tes with a different name?

@schnitzel0330

3 жыл бұрын

@@radonsider9692 M1A2 Abrams is strong enough, Leo 2A6 is still overpowered, T-80BVM still is inferior against both mentioned tanks, the only tank to be really added from the list is T-90M. Type 10 and Ztz 99 can be debated.

@heliogonzalezsanchez8227

3 жыл бұрын

@@schnitzel0330 and Leclerc XXI or the Scorpion variant

javelin hold my ammo

I should mention something you got wrong, or didnt mention. The T-80BVM's hull isnt that of the T-80B/BV, its actually the hull of the T-80U. Therefore, it has the same hull composite array as the T-80U which is much stronger than the T-80Bs. This stronger armor array of the UFP, coupled with the Relikt, actually would suggest the Hull armor might be slightly better/stronger than the turret (Minus the drivers port, of course).

@nicolas8098

2 жыл бұрын

"The T-80BVM's hull isnt that of the T-80B/BV, its actually the hull of the T-80U." what's your source lmao

@TheArklyte

Жыл бұрын

It's not. It's T-80BV. 1)Russia has much more T-80B and T-80BV then T-80U; 2)you can't just replace the type of armor package T-80 uses without cutting down the whole tank to pieces. So T-80BV will continue to have armor package of T-80BV. The infamous "boob window" of T-64/72/80/90 is NOT just driver port. It's a significant portion of armor right in front of it since the cutoff is made vertically, meaning that while cutoff in external steel plate is rather small, there are significant areas where several layers or even the whole of "composite pie" are missing. Combined, it seems like you're either spouting nonsense that can be proven wrong with basic common sense and knowledge about these tanks OR(more likely) deliberately trying to spread misinformation. Feel free to provide your sources OR tell me where my logic wasn't spot on:P

@philipped.r.6385

11 ай бұрын

There would be no sense of removing T-80B turrets and putting them on T-80U hulls since the later has much better base turret armor than the B. The T-80BVMs are just T-80BV being given a deep modernisation because they have a significant number in storage.

@zvexevz

10 ай бұрын

Man why does this blatant lie have so many upvotes...

Would you do a video on tank upgrades? Say, a summary of T-55 upgrades, be it M-55S, Serbian T-55S, Tiran, Viet T-54M, AlZarrar, Durjoy, Chinese VT-3, Jaguar, Peruvian Tifon, T-55AGM, etc

Who will win T80 or guided rocket powered bomb stick

all of this to be turned into scrap metal by an NLAW or Javelin lmao

Farmers have this now

The conclusion I draw from your videos is that all tanks are vulnerable from the sides/rear/above with handheld anti tank weapons. The only viable solution being the very best active protection systems.

@yelectric1893

3 жыл бұрын

Soon™️

@emilsinclair4190

3 жыл бұрын

Well the best solution is to not get in a situation where someone shoots at your tank.

@enriqueouro9

3 жыл бұрын

Not if they have side era, also side turret armour is usually decent

@jds6206

2 жыл бұрын

NLAW and Javelin defeat active protection systems.

Hey RedEffect, great content covering T-80BVM. Can you cover the leaked “Bulrak” tank that has recently appeared? It looks very interesting.

@jakub0447

3 жыл бұрын

It would be interesting indeed, maybe only the amount of info available would be a slight problem

@MrMurder333666

3 жыл бұрын

Bulrak ? Where did you find that ?

@user-fn6ct6zb7h

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrMurder333666 Russia planned to change turrets on their tanks with Burlak turret in 2000s, Burlak can fit longer penetrators, has better armor and blast doors, but was abandoned. Then month or two ago they started testing it again, there are few leaked pics of it.

@Aes880

3 жыл бұрын

Bulrak is a revived project from the 2000s ,Red talk about it b4

@user-ld3zw1ng9t

3 жыл бұрын

Burlak you mean?

They should do a full recall on all of these. Lol👍

It is intended for arctic regions. If we consider tank versus tank battles (which are not the main task of tanks), then the T-80BVM is quite a worthy competitor to the Norwegian Leopard 2 A4

@ullldotten

2 жыл бұрын

T-80BVM against M72, Javelins and NLAW's* :)

@jayjay53313

2 жыл бұрын

@@ullldotten Russians answer to Javelin top down attack missiles is the T-14 Armata but because of limited budget, they did not complete the active defenses and put only small numbers into service. The originally planned T-14 is to have sensors to detect incoming projectiles from above and to fire upwards explosive pellets shotgun style. Also due to limited resources, old tanks being deployed to Ukraine for additional fire support. T-80BVM is just the old T-80BV refitted with newer ERA and added extra side protection, not total remake like the T-90 from T-72.

@ullldotten

2 жыл бұрын

@@jayjay53313 I'm aware. "Shame" it wont be any budget for T-14s for many, many years to come. My comment were not be taken too serious, was just pointing out how these performs against mostly javelins and NLAWs. No need to pull out our leopards' if the Russians (or more spesific their leader) descides to de-nazify Norway:)

@schlomogoldstien2171

2 жыл бұрын

@@ullldotten It is high time for the de-Nazification of Norway. Too many Quislings!

@1djbecker

2 жыл бұрын

@@jayjay53313 The T-14 would be at least as vulnerable to immediately brewing up as the T-72 and T-80 that have tossed their turrets. A brew-up of the autoloader that rapid isn't going to spare the crew. The Afganit active protection system is a paper shield. It's a list of specs. It doesn't exist. They haven't developed the simpler version intended for the T-90MS. I expect that the T-14 now has zero chance of being built. It's already seven years past the introduction of the prototypes. Instead it will be back to the drawing board to figure out how build a vehicle with better survivability when hit from above.

I have seen a few captured ones being reviewed and the Ukrainians were very pleased with them. They stressed the new Sosna U sight's quality as well as the ATGMs.

@bluudlung

Жыл бұрын

yeah because they're upgrading from the T-64 lmao "very pleased with them" what a weirdo

@enriqueperezarce5485

Жыл бұрын

Yes because it’s either the 72 or 64 that Ukraine mostly has. Compare to their supposed “adversaries” the Abrams outcompetes it

@bluudlung

Жыл бұрын

@@enriqueperezarce5485 the original T-72 has long since been upgraded. i hope you're not comparing an original T-72 to an original Abrams.

@olegbobrovskiy3244

Жыл бұрын

well its definitely better than the T64BV, and Bulats and Oplots exist in far too small numbers to make a big impact. Ironically the same is true of the T80BVM and T90M

@longyu9336

Жыл бұрын

@@olegbobrovskiy3244 T-80 BVMs appear (and get captured) in significant quantities. T-90M is true tho.

Arjun is meant for the star wars, nothing can be comparable to this marvelous tank.

I heard recently that they run out of fuel a lot and are vulnerable to LATWs.

This aged beautifully

Do you think it should get the cage armor in WT?

@the_burger

3 жыл бұрын

Not only that, it should also get its side skirts.

This is just an interim upgrade similar to T-72B3M to extend lifetime of existing fleet. Only several brigades (motor rifle and naval infantry) in the Far East and Arctic are armed with T-80BV(M)s. Besides that, only the 4th Guards tank division in Western MD is armed with T-80s (BVM in motor rifle regiment, U and UE-1 in tank regiments). And since its T-80Us have not gotten any significant upgrades in the last decade (despite widespread T-72 and now T-90 fleet modernization), the 4th GTD is probably one of the first formations in line to be rearmed with T-14s.

@germanboy7673

Жыл бұрын

They stopped existing 5 months ago

T80bwm with kontakt 5 side is marine version because relikt era side does not fit in landing craft.

@user-dl3nc4jx7k

2 жыл бұрын

everything is simpler, just the Ministry of Defense does not have the money to purchase a more expensive and better stopping effect relic, contact 5 is an obsolete defense. which was relevant to the year in 1995 , the relic is now also almost obsolete, it was replaced by the protection of malachite developed on that Armata. but apparently it is even more expensive, for the purchase and mass production of armat, the military department now has no money. all funds are spent on equipping the army with expensive hypersonic missiles

Suspicious video Drop after it released in war thunder Just joking;)

March 2022: Which is the worst modern Russian tank? Yes.

@apiFerrari

2 жыл бұрын

Putin doesnt like your comment 🤣

While most of the things said are true, one needs to remember that that was "soviet era" one and only exploration into a gas-turbine tank, having a sturdy and proven T-72. The whole project was a test, R&D, and was to test the engine and chassis concept, similar to the M1A1 Abrams. The T-90 came after, back to diesel-multi fuel, 3 modifications. Also the T-14, and several modification into ERA and APS, as well as sights and active and passive defense systems. This is why it's so difficult to keep up with Russian tanks, several projects simultaneously, at different stages.....and they do have like thousands of old samples to mess up with. ;)

@tankredzr

Жыл бұрын

The T72 was initially introduced as a temporary solution due to the issues encountered with the T64 and its slow production rate. As a result, the T72 was designed with a conservative approach. On the other hand, the T80 was not originally intended for research and development purposes only. The Soviet military had always been working on conceptual tanks, and once the T80 received its designation, it was chosen as the mainstay of the Soviet tank force. However, the T80 proved to be costly, gas-guzzling, and high maintenance. As a result, the T72 was retained as an alternative option. This is why there were three primary designs in the Soviet tank force. The T90 is essentially a renamed T72, and after the collapse of the Soviet Union, the production plant and thousands of T72 tanks remained in Russia, which is why they continue to be used to this day.

@nathanielweber7843

Жыл бұрын

I mean, maybe it’s difficult to keep up with Russian tanks by number of the sheer staggering variable designations from minor upgrade packages. But even if you look at the t-14 armata, the cutting edge russian tank has equipment they call cutting edge that was introduced onto nato tanks in the late 1980s. The thermal sights are literally the same model of sight the French Leclerc removed and upgraded from in 2006. Modern western civilian drones have better IR sights. And a test conducted with the Chinese concluded that all of its supposed hard kill and soft kill systems didn’t exist and were fabricated by the state to hype the tank to be more then it was. So in terms of keeping up with battlefield technology, Russian tanks can barely match what the west had in the early 90s. Nevermind current vehicles.

@dreci3001

Жыл бұрын

@@nathanielweber7843 I have to object here, this is no Serbia! While Russian tank designations and projects are out of bounds, even back in the Serbian war T-72s had night vision and thermals. I don't know what angle you are coming from, but Russian Armour has been significantly upgraded. The French were never good at anything, but keep gender neutral and carbon free Germany supplied by nuclear power plants, let's be honest. Abrams and the likes in excess of 50 tons, just can't function in mud and their operational costs are insane. Passive and active systems have been developed since the '80s. it's drones and hand held ATs now... "so I put a "curtain" so this 100,000 USD rocket scratches the paint" You're failing to understand that such warfare have never been fought before. All the issues we talk about here, have been considered. It's an economic and propaganda war..... T-72s with "grand momas curtains" are doing just fine, against Gustavs and top-down blowing AT rockets.....however in an environment like this most "western" tanks just bog down and when you take their sensors out, it's a sitting duck. Russian MBTs are usually less than 55 tons and can sprint @ 53 mph, it's not money, it's a doctrine!

@nihilistricebitches

7 ай бұрын

​@@nathanielweber7843well, consiidering the USSR's fall caused a lot of brain drain, the feds are very corrupt and their economy has mostly been dogwater they're doibg pretty well.

Russian fire-and-forget system: Putin fires his generals and forgets about his soldiers 🤣

@CorvusCorax.

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂👍

Does the chain slat armour at the back behind the ERA plates do anything against sabot or just heat and other types of explosives

Thanks for another interesting video.

If ur interested in one, u can go to Any Ukrainian farms house and purchase one. They are littered All over Ukraine right now. Most without any damage… except for the graffiti of a Z painted on it. The Z seems to represent a knock-off Swastika. U may also be required to Remove the empty vodka bottles left from the previous crews

@savejeff15

2 жыл бұрын

Also bring fuel. A lot of fuel. Otherwise you will run out of it and strand in the middle of an invasion like a total idiot. That would be such an embarrassment

@taelorpickel2830

2 жыл бұрын

The Z has nothing similar with the Swastika.

Bet it doesn't protect against Javelin and NLaw. Lol.

@izzad777

2 жыл бұрын

Javelin? NLAW? biatch cant even win against mud lmao.

I love ur vids dude!

I love the incoming projectile guiding system to make sure the base of the turret is an easy target.

@pavelslama5543

Жыл бұрын

you mean those angled panels? Well, even if they were a real steel slabs and not ERA panels like they are, they would not deflect the projectile into the base of the turret. Modern APFSDS projectiles dont bounce. If they dont penetrate, they shatter to pieces.

@426baron

Жыл бұрын

@@pavelslama5543 interesting. I must admit my knowledge about this is rather WWII. But are all projectiles it will encounter be modern enough ?

This tank didn't age well against Javelin and NLAW in Ukraine.

@goldman6506

2 жыл бұрын

A javelin would destroy an Abrams quite easily.Not sure if a NLAW would.probably.But honestly tanks are like battleships anymore in my opinion.Expensive and outdated.

@NKVD_Enjoyer

2 жыл бұрын

Okraine still lost more.

It's biggest problem now is being abandoned by it's neo-fascist forces and towed away by Ukrainian tractors. Oh wait, that's the opposite of a problem. :D

@AJ-happydad

2 жыл бұрын

Facts

@mattmark94

2 жыл бұрын

A week ago I watched a video of ukrainian farmers taking control of this tank, it was hilarious 👌🏻

@goldman6506

2 жыл бұрын

You know that an entire battalion of Ukraines best military in the south are literally nazis right?

@TheInfamousMrFox

2 жыл бұрын

@@goldman6506 Why does every single 55 Savushkina street troll bleat "but azov, but azov, but azov" Sure there's a single small unit of right wing fighters defending their homes. Funnily enough they're from the East of Ukraine and they're descended from the ruSSkie colonizers that replaced the Ukrainians genocided during the Holodomor. It doesn't change the fact that putler sounds deranged trying to pretend that the elected, centre left, Jewish lead government of Ukraine is somehow fascist, when 3rd world ruSSia is actually a fascist nation.

@TheInfamousMrFox

2 жыл бұрын

@@mattmark94 It's amazing, I've seen so many videos of invading fascist tanks, AA vehicles, BMPs, BDMs etc being towed away. 3rd world ruSSia is now officially the single biggest supplier of Ukrainian military vehicles.

Great video. Where is the external port for the gunner's sights?

Can someone tell me what that rack on the back of the commanders hatch is? Is it a counterweight?

Imagine how freaky it would be to try and tag a target with a laser only to have the turret instantly spin around and start pointing your direction. Time to crap yer pants :)

Congrats you now have an answer.

Did not know they kept the manual transmission. Thanks for the info

Almost all of this information is true, except the thing about protection. Late production T 80BV had the same armor layout as T 80U, making their protection identical. So, T 80BVM, not only has Relict at its front, it also has an added plate the material and thickness of which I can't remember

@Brother_Nihilus

3 жыл бұрын

Source?

@AverageWarCrimeEnjoyer

3 жыл бұрын

@@Brother_Nihilus I have a Russian post, but you will have to use Google translate

The problem with all Russian tanks are their allergic to the US Javelin

@ddandymann

2 жыл бұрын

And the NLAW, although they seem to get on quite well with Ukrainian tractors.

@NKVD_Enjoyer

2 жыл бұрын

🤡

T-80BVM aka the Conscript's tank

I was just thinking about Red effect and boom i refresh and a vid pops up

As a grunt, I sure as hell would not start a fight with one unless I had a javlen

Also don't forget, it throws turrets

I learned that this tank is meant for very cold environmet, because it's gas turbine is there favorable. Don't think to meet many western tanks at the nordcap or sibiria.

@okay2439

3 жыл бұрын

I'm not that much into tanks, I believe the Abrams has a turbine engine

@Trump-a-Tron

3 жыл бұрын

@@okay2439 Correct. You should also look up the Arjun tank, as per this comment section.

@dodgedemonsrtx

2 жыл бұрын

@@Trump-a-Tron ARJUN????

What is the big tube on the back of the T-80 tanks? I'm not talking about the added fuel tanks, just the big long tube mounted horizontally behind the turret, what is that?

@AbokaseeRed

2 жыл бұрын

Smoke generator, meant to cover assets traveling behind it.

@squgieman

2 жыл бұрын

its the snorkeling tube

Hey does the reverse gear work now ?

These tanks have been upgraded already. Now there is a putin's Z swastika painted on them!

@KingSpittusFactus

2 жыл бұрын

Zwastika

@Nick-fw5uj

2 жыл бұрын

Most of them also have weird burn marks and holes in them, not sure why they are doing that but Ukraine says it makes them much better

@Tremumbus

2 жыл бұрын

@@Nick-fw5uj the burn marks are from them sanitising them from covid so they can enter the country

@Nick-fw5uj

2 жыл бұрын

@@Tremumbus Ah that might be it, maybe the holes are for extra ventilation due to covid aswell.

They have been conducting successful field trials of their turret ejection system in the Ukraine.

Great Video !!! Super Informative 👍👍👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

what are those side skirt ERA cotton bags ?

hey, could you do a video on the new Vietnamese T54M, really interesting.

As long as this isn't against the T80 series as a whole. I Think the T80 is a great tank capable of combat today with speed and gun and armor.

Nice, it just got added to WT, I see what you doin m8 I see you.

Still not good enough against a tractor

Very interesting to watch your older videos after "the Lazerpig incident", especially after he basically called you "Russian Propaganda". But we can clearly hear how you're criticizing the flaws and that barely anyone is mentioning those.

This video aged unironically well.

Does anyone know how it stands up to NLAWs and Javelins? Asking for a comrade.

Redeffect in your opinion which mbt has the best base Armour? Love your videos

@user-pp7ud6oe1u

3 жыл бұрын

T-14 with crew capsule?

@kamilszadkowski8864

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-pp7ud6oe1u How about a tank that actually exists? At least in active service.

@patrioticpanda7618

3 жыл бұрын

@@kamilszadkowski8864 so. t-14

@kamilszadkowski8864

3 жыл бұрын

@@patrioticpanda7618 T-14 didn't enter serial production and is not in active service.

@militaryanalysis5028

3 жыл бұрын

@@kamilszadkowski8864 T-14 is in active service, just in very limited numbers because no seriel producion.

can survive against drones and javelin attacks?

So Relikt sideskirts as an armor upgrade modification in Warthunder.

@stalker5299

3 жыл бұрын

it was planned to come with this update but wasn't finished in time

this modification is only needed so that tanks are not thrown into the trash, it makes no sense to spend a lot of money on it, it's easier to build a T-90 with this money

Whats the steel block thing on the lower upper glacious?

@Kalashnikov413

2 жыл бұрын

the ''Relikt'' ERA

so basicly they did good job on upgrading for what they want it to be..you can drive it in extreme temperatures and actualy shoot trough something...that is well good job..

Shame it doesn't have its proper sideskirts in War Thunder yet.

@RedEffect Just wanted to leave I do enjoy your "sub, like" Banner without nerve-eating sounds. One of must-have subs on YT =)

That welding looks like my mum did it...