The biggest downside of the T-90M is the reverse speed, while the biggest downside of the BM-Oplot is that it doesnt exist.

@gerfand

Жыл бұрын

that is more of a Ukraine downside than a Tank downside

@user-te7rf8ik7z

Жыл бұрын

Also absence of longer rounds is a really important drawback

@YarIsGoober

Жыл бұрын

"while the biggest downside of BM-Oplot is that it dosent exist" Armata new competition????

@jarate8076

Жыл бұрын

@@YarIsGoober armata exists tho they're just afraid it'll get blown up and completely destroy their tech advantage as soon as it gets captured

@tasman006

Жыл бұрын

Yes there is a few examples they where going to produce them before Russia annexed Crimea. A lot of companies that made compentents for the T84Oplot where in Crimea and not available so Ukraine now has to start agian. Though with Challenger 2 tanks, Leopard 2s and Abrams tanks coming in I think the T90Ms Russia will have to bring more to the battle field or risk thier Arfarta tanks. Though depleted Urainium rounds will peirce the T90M not a problem.

7:25 T-90M: "I'm only human after all, i'm only human after all"

@obayalharbi82

Жыл бұрын

lmao

@vektor_2019

Жыл бұрын

😂

@benjaminpadilla1464

Жыл бұрын

LMAO

@thril1677

Жыл бұрын

LOLL

@slavicemperor8279

Жыл бұрын

T-90M after firing a 3BM60 on a Ukrainian hospital

The biggest problem of T-90M is the reverse speed

@mr.normalguy69

Жыл бұрын

It also goes boom 💥

@bigboy3206

Жыл бұрын

​@@mr.normalguy69 what

@Mgaming61

Жыл бұрын

​@@mr.normalguy69 you can kindly get out of here

@grimmerjxcts2206

Жыл бұрын

@@mr.normalguy69 every tank goes boom lmao nothing is indestructible kid

@the_burger

Жыл бұрын

Only problem

I think the only real downside of the T-90M is that its still using the old transmission giving it only a 4km/h reverse speed. The torque would be insanely high but that doesn't save you when your being engaged.

@Saxondavid

Жыл бұрын

Maybe there thought is forward only reverse is for cowards ! Lol

@memazov6601

Жыл бұрын

Go to say not one step back

@slavicemperor8279

Жыл бұрын

Yeah people complain about carousel but they added armor on it and chances of cookoff decreased significantly. Only thing hindering T-90M is it's horrendous reverse speed. I don't understand why are Russians so adamant to not fix it

@heyno3306

Жыл бұрын

​@@Saxondavid that's a bit over confident

@saucyinnit8799

Жыл бұрын

True. And the lack of APS (even if it's designed to have one), however that's still a luxury to most other tanks as well.

That one Clip of two T-90Ms reversing is so painful

@nekko5778

Жыл бұрын

its not a really good example ive seen them reverse much faster then this. In this spesific case the drivers just decidet to not reverse quickly

@kevlar2536

Жыл бұрын

@@nekko5778 T-72s does only have 1 reverse gear with 4 km/h max speed which is really bad even if the driver only drove 2 or 3 km/h it wouldnt make any big differenc

@milaro222

Жыл бұрын

@@kevlar2536 In the T-90M, the reverse speed has been increased to 15 km.

@kevlar2536

Жыл бұрын

@@milaro222 did you have a Source

@p40o

Жыл бұрын

​@@kevlar2536 Source: Trust me

I think the amount of APFSDS used in this war is extrmeley mininal. 99% of a tanks targets are not going to be other tanks, every war with tanks in it has shown this. Even WW2, which has had by far the largest tank conflicts in history, saw tanks rarely facing tanks, when compared to how often they faced other targets.

@Machine_Cult

Жыл бұрын

I wonder then if the tank training received by Ukrainian crews in the UK will be of higher value than initially thought, as modern British tank doctrine is arguably more centred around infantry support instead of tank v tank.

@rael5469

Жыл бұрын

Excellent points. Really.

@quan-uo5ws

Жыл бұрын

This is something that is very overlooked in wars.... probably the dumbest thing NATO has done tankwise was not issuing HE projectiles during the cold war, but only HEAT, APFSDS and HESH. (Thankfully in recent time they NATO tanks have extremely efficient airburst HE)

@igormsh14bidevisualizacoes45

Жыл бұрын

Lmao no, tank x tank combat despite not being that common is definetely not as rare as they say, as it is intuitive to deploy tanks to combat other tanks on the field of battle; and on ww2 tank x tank combat was extremely common, since the scale of that conflit. Keep in mind that mbts are designed to fight other tanks, if tank x tank combat was so rare they would focus much more on the infantry support capabilities. Don't forget iraq war, which was determined by huge tank x tank battles. It is not that tank x tank combat is rare, it is that having footage of those combats is rare.

@01Laffey

Жыл бұрын

@@Machine_Cult This has not been the case since just after WW2 when the Infantry tanks were retired. Challenger 2 is in armoured infantry brigdaes which is your standard mechanized infantry built around high mobility tank/armored vehicle warfare, rather then positional infantry fighting Soviets were the ones who still kept companies assigned to motorised infantry, and the US are bringing the concept back with MPF which will be assigned to Infantry Brigade Combat Teams and not Stryker or Armored Brigades

if there is one thing we have learned from this war, and we have always known this, it's not the vehicle it is the crew that really makes the difference.

@jaake6091

Жыл бұрын

Its not the machine its the pilot they said

@agentc7020

Жыл бұрын

Unless it's like a really really inferior machine, then the crew is just as good as lost.

@tankistrazumist

Жыл бұрын

In any case, the crew will be less effective in combat against an army with better intelligence, communications, UAVs, tanks with APS. The crew and soldiers in general are not the most important thing in the war. the most important thing is the actions of the command. Not even the best crew in the world can win in spite of their shit commanders.

@Pao234_

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, but that works for both sides, since the average crew will be about as good for both countries

@TheRezro

Жыл бұрын

Russians basically make same tank from introduction of T-64. Differences are marginal and hard factors are not as important as soft factors, despite what people think. Both tanks are obsolete.

Great comparison. One comparison I would love to see is the T-64BV vs T-72B3. Why? Because that's the tanks that have suffered the highest losses in the war on each side and I'm fairly certain they're the most used ones as well. They're the backbones if you will.

@voidtempering8700

Жыл бұрын

He has a comparison in his Russian vs Ukrainian tanks video.

@DiamondkeyOwO

Жыл бұрын

A WW2 light tank against a modern MBT? Just why?

@voidtempering8700

Жыл бұрын

@@DiamondkeyOwO The T-64BV is a MBT, what are you talking about?

@Juel92

Жыл бұрын

@@voidtempering8700 Oki thanks I'll check that out.

@Juel92

Жыл бұрын

@@voidtempering8700 Lol I just realized I wrote T-60 not T-64 lmao. Gonna edit it.

kudos to you man. Its so hard to find neutral takes on the conflict in this day and age.

@arandomperson5649

Жыл бұрын

Fr.U try to give some credit to russian equipment or pointing out western problems =russian/chinese bot

@cryptarisprotocol1872

Жыл бұрын

@@arandomperson5649 It’s more prevalent on Western media outlets channels or pro-Ukraine channels. I got called a Russian bot for explaining to someone the difference between KIA and casualties ;|

@Tamburello_1994

Жыл бұрын

@@cryptarisprotocol1872 That's why these type conversations should be taken with a grain of salt. Unless you can see, or hear the person? It's not a "real" conversation. Yes. I'm old enough to remember a world with no internet.

@gerfand

Жыл бұрын

@@cryptarisprotocol1872 well that is because KIA = russian Casuality, and WIA = Ukranian Casuality, since ofc nothing else happens.

@kameraldbahrul3432

Жыл бұрын

​@@gerfandnah just say Ukraine lost 5 and Russia lost 10000000000000000 they Will believe

Problem is BM Oplot is even rarer than T 14

@Grimshak81

Жыл бұрын

That’s why Ukraine announced to start production.

@AuntHazel

Жыл бұрын

dude Thailand has 49 of Oplot, how many T14 russia has?

@ThePppp89

Жыл бұрын

@@AuntHazel Probably something like 20-40 now.

@AuntHazel

Жыл бұрын

@@ThePppp89 i bet even less, but still - it's not rarer)

@RutakoVon

Жыл бұрын

​@@ThePppp89 15

If T 90 gets it's ERA improved and reverse speed issue fixed that would be a supurb tank

@rogue__agent5884

Жыл бұрын

Add to that a rear bustle auto loader

@rogue__agent5884

Жыл бұрын

@@cmdrmonkey it’s not useless

@vii7031

Жыл бұрын

@@rogue__agent5884 bustle loader would completely change the design of the tank. I think with better protection of the auto loader and the tank itself the issue will become a very minor one.

@rogue__agent5884

Жыл бұрын

@@vii7031 it’s not just extra safety that u get with rear bustle auto loader u also get to have longer projectiles increasing performance, as of now Russian tanks like T-72/T-90/T-80 have reached the peak length and they can’t increase the size of the projectile meaning the performance cannot increase

@phunkracy

Жыл бұрын

@@cmdrmonkey chobham armor is just a name for British composite armor. Its not magic or special really, actually by now probably outdated since its like 40 years old at this point. The first use of composite armor was actually by Soviets. T-90s already have composite armor of their own design.

T-90M just looks so damn sexy

@saucyinnit8799

Жыл бұрын

I agree.

@al1sa920

Жыл бұрын

I absolutely agree, even though I'm on Russian side, BM-Oplot looks really good, however nothing beats photos of T-90M during a parade

@alphanomad511

Жыл бұрын

@@al1sa920 I love the t90m but the oplot is just so THICC with armor I love it

@cpxbni

Жыл бұрын

​@@al1sa920Both tanks look absolutely goated, for some reason i like the design of post-soviet tanks more than western counterparts like leopards, abrams and challengers

@Dimitrije_Sukovic

Жыл бұрын

I know it'd be better if Russia had hundreds of T14's by this point, but hundreds of T90M's just puts a smile on my face.

I've heard about the Ukrainian ERA but never seen these footage examples thank you for such a well researched video

The reverse speed of the T-90 was 5 km/h, after the modernization of the T-90M, it was increased to 15 km/h.

@Skibidi24997

2 ай бұрын

Yooooo, that is epic

It really boggles the mind that the Russians haven't replaced the transmissions. I'm no expert, but it seems to me that if the Ukrainians can install a gear reverser, then the Russians should be well and capable of doing the same. Also as you mentioned numbers of T-90M, I've been trying to get a handle on how many have been produced since the Kherson offensive, and my best estimate is 320 or so. It could be as low as 250, or as high as 375. Just going off visible serial numbers and extrapolating, as well as collecting videos of tanks being delivered on trains. Not the most accurate method, but it's safe to say Russia is likely delivering about 2x as many tanks to the battlefield as Ukraine is receiving from us in the west.

@raulisrael7342

Жыл бұрын

Hahahah sell off spare parts go BRRR

@Insert-Retarded-Reply-Here

Жыл бұрын

I was a T-72 gunner with the 6th guards motor rifle regiment. The reverse speed might seem like garbage when performing maneuvers in combat, but once the tank gets stuck in mud or other unfavorable terrain (happens a lot especially during the mud season), the very high gear ratio in reverse allows it to either get itself unstuck or helps massively when another Russian tank is required to tow the stuck tank

@Pao234_

Жыл бұрын

​@@Insert-Retarded-Reply-Here Thing is, they could keep that gear and add a few more. Because the danger the tank is exposed to is probably greater than the reduced risk of it getting stuck and possibly lost. I mean, at least you don't risk the crew

@koskok2965

Жыл бұрын

@@Pao234_ I'm pretty sure that the engineers at UVZ have investigated this matter before making their choice. You can't imagine just how meticulous design processes can be.

@Insert-Retarded-Reply-Here

Жыл бұрын

@@Pao234_ it’s not that simple. To add more gears requires a redesigned gearbox, and though this level of technical specificity is beyond what I am familiar with, larger and heavier gearboxes are required to accommodate more reverse gears which may prove too bulky for the T-series vehicles unless the gear ratio was changed, and on top of that it would result in reduced components interchangeability with other Russian tanks, which is partially the reason why the T-80 program was abandoned. And you may think that reversing faster is more important than recovering a stricken vehicle stuck in mud, but the soviet/Russian doctrine has a pretty consistent track record of prioritizing logistical soundness over sheer combat performance.

1:39 That projectile is the Indian 125mm FSAPDS Mk-2 and not the Israeli one.

@soumyadeepchoudhury3201

Жыл бұрын

Didnt know that as a indian myself

Hi Redeffect can you do a video where you show example how you would modernise T-72 80 or 90 tanks i know it would be long video but it would be really interesting for all of us. Btw keep up the good work we really appreciate it

@slobodanmilosevic7487

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree

@birdman9860

Жыл бұрын

Better yet Gaijin should have a sit down video with UralVagonZavod showing them how to make a T-72B4

@VR-db2fo

Жыл бұрын

Every t90 Tank is a modernized T72. The t90 is not a New Plattform.

@LM-nb6eh

Жыл бұрын

@@VR-db2fo no one said it was i just wrote some options for him to pick if he ever would make video like that

@VR-db2fo

Жыл бұрын

@@LM-nb6eh didnt want to suggest that you said that. I just stated it as a fact. Sorry for the confusion.

Can’t wait for BM oplot to get added to the USSR tree in Warthunder 🎉

@esanahka9284

Жыл бұрын

I doubt they will add it. Russians don't like to be reminded of how badly their shithole country is being humiliated.

@ukuskota4106

Жыл бұрын

its riot in WT

@_YouTube-User_

2 ай бұрын

It is more possible for it to get added to Japan in the form of a Thai side-tree

I'm not a big fan of Russian tanks and ERAs in general but I have to admit both tanks are pretty impressive, the T-90M looks pretty badass and the ERA used on the Oplot is interesting

Russia has more T-14 that Ukraine has Oplots. Maybe you should have compare Oplot and Armata because of comparable amounts of tanks available

@dungeonboss8356

Жыл бұрын

TBF the biggest T-90 disadvantage still exists in T-14 (can't reverse). Other than that T-14 should be better in other scenarios except the ability to produce, since it used a lot of electronics which are now sanctioned and hard to get. But Oplots are not produced as well so I guess we can call it a tie in that regard, since having 20 T-14 without the ability to construct more is not very useful.

@iyhan1987

Жыл бұрын

@@dungeonboss8356 idk what specific technology blocks the production if it even true. The production struggled even before the sanctions were imposed. So maybe it's something else. Anyway I guess if you can produce T90M in numbers, you can produce T14 as well... May be a little downgraded, if there is really some kind of techno block, but nevertheless

@dungeonboss8356

Жыл бұрын

@@iyhan1987 the entire point of T-14 was being so "scientifically advanced" that the west would fear it, therefore they put a bunch of semi-advanced electronic stuff, which is not present in T90, I don't remember exactly what. If you are more interested in it LazerPig has a good video about it (although biased, you will still get a lot of information about it)

@iyhan1987

Жыл бұрын

@@dungeonboss8356 thx

@antares2767

11 ай бұрын

​@@dungeonboss8356 where did you get the information about T-14's reverse speed?

The Russians could’ve at least put the t80 transmission in the t90 to make it go 11kph issued of the 4kph

@squidysnose69

Жыл бұрын

Engine and transmission are connected together to form whats known as a tank powerplant. With t80s gas turbine engine and t90 piston engine i doubt the trannys are interchangeable

@jPlanerv2

Жыл бұрын

you cant just out t80 transmision in to t72 hull thats not how that works

@dexm881

Жыл бұрын

That's not that simple, there're huge difference between gearboxes and connecting modules

@dm1i

Жыл бұрын

All T-90M already have a 15 kmph reverse speed. It's still a downside, but not as big as for older modifications. Don't know where 4 kmph is coming from.

@_b_x_b_1063

Жыл бұрын

​@@dm1i нет, там те же 4 км/ч.

I would say they are pretty equivalent in combat power to one another, but the lack of availability of the BM Oplot is a major disadvantage.

@Gpo6-gj5sg

Жыл бұрын

49

Love the new extro music! And great video as usual. Thanks

Very informative as always, thanks

the problem with Nizh is that its effectivness depends on where the hit lands for example, if projectile hits last hollow charge, all 10 would affect it but if it hits first, it would be affected only by 1 Also, because of how big Duplet is, part of T-84's base armor is cut out to mount ERA

@sdrkrm

Жыл бұрын

That's why the lower sections have various angles of the charges - to maximize the hit radius. Same is with side sections for hull and the turret.

@dwarow2508

Жыл бұрын

Another issue is the single use. Once it is triggered, the tank functionally misseda solid chunk of armor while on the T90M it at least still has access to all it's plating.

@wawaweewa9159

Жыл бұрын

all era is like that, if the bottom of the block is hit less mass goes into pojectile, if it hit the top maximum mass is pushe dinto projectile, this si why era blocks including on nizh is long

@sdrkrm

Жыл бұрын

@@dwarow2508 The rod will be lucky to pen 2 layers of Duplet. But even if it does there is a 3rd level of traditional composite armor at the bottom.

@dwarow2508

Жыл бұрын

@@sdrkrm Yeah but still. Once it triggers, it's gone. Just composite armor minus the steel plate. That is a significant drop in protection as opposed to the extre steel on thr T90M

Wonder if they're planning on producing the 120mm version with the bustle autoloader instead of the standard 125mm one.

@_Admin_01.

Жыл бұрын

I thought that version was developed for export.

@wulfleyn6498

Жыл бұрын

@@_Admin_01. Doesn't stop them from building it for their own military. Might be a good idea with how they're probably slowly switching over mostly to NATO ammunition.

@squidysnose69

Жыл бұрын

​@@wulfleyn6498 but where will they build these tanks? Xtz was blown up by the russians and every other tank modernization plant in ukraine has ceased to exist. Also how do the Ukrainians plan to produce the duplet era. Also Ukrainians dont build tanks from scratch but they modernize old tanks. So how many t80s do they have to work with?

@wulfleyn6498

Жыл бұрын

@@squidysnose69 Well they're planning on having the built somewhere, since they seem to starting production again, might not even be in Ukraine for all I know.

@marselangjo2201

Жыл бұрын

​@@wulfleyn6498 They need the blueprints which they can reverse engineer but even then which country would suspend their own tank production to make a foreign tank. The USA makes about 100 new tanks a year and all of europe together probably makes about the same. Putting a new tank in production would be too costly and inefficient. If Nato makes 50 a year that would be surprising.

Problem with T90M? Shitty reverse speed Problem with BM Oplot? About as real as my wife's moans

@_YouTube-User_

2 ай бұрын

It exists in Thailand

I would like to point out about the T-90M that it uses a Catherine XP/LR Thermal Imager which is 3rd generation Thermals, Relikt ERA (as said in the video) which makes it so that APFSDS has 50% less penetrating power (M829A2 could not penetrate a T-90A which was fitted with Relikt while M829A3 struggled to be consistant), however it does have a "weakspot" in the turret which the T-90A doesn't have which is right ontop of the gun mantlet, where the turret is higher but where APFSDS should not be able to penetrate.

@haloguy628

Жыл бұрын

Thales Catherine XP/LR Thermal Imager - Made in France. Which means the russians may manufacture as many T-90s as they want but since the electronics are made in the west and so they are unobtanium for the russians after the invasion. So the new T-90s will be just a nice props for propaganda but worthless in combat. So your dissertation on US APFSDS rounds is pointless.

@MatteonixITA

Жыл бұрын

​@@haloguy628 While i agree that what i said about M829A2 and A3 may not sound realistic, but it is, as pointed from the manufacturer of Relikt and even a German document about it, which says that DM63 (and M829A2/A3 too basically) cannot penetrate modern Russian MBTs in the front plate.

@sigmaduck69420

Жыл бұрын

@@haloguy628 russia have managed to domestically produce it ... since 5 years ago

@handsomeivan1980

Жыл бұрын

​@@haloguy628 they produced the thermals themselves.

@handsomeivan1980

Жыл бұрын

T90m has a different turret and it's currently unknown if it's armor array is different

I like the BM for one reason, it doesn’t look exactly like a Russian tank which makes it both easier to identify and also gives the casual watcher an easier time knowing who is on what side in any rare tank on tank battles we see

I think it's kind of unfair to compare these two, oplot is made or still in existence in handful of numbers while t90m is in hundreds, the more fair comparison is oplot vs armata, or t64bv vs t90m...

@trololoev

Жыл бұрын

Armata? Why? This is different generations of tank. Armata can be compared only to abramsx if it ever being produced.

@Sveta7

Жыл бұрын

@@trololoev Because it's the pinnacle of Russian tank production like oplot is for the Ukraine and they're both in small numbers, meaning not really in active service, while t90m is.

@scatterlite2266

Жыл бұрын

There are not hundreds of T-90M. Most figure are around 100 before the war. If russian on paper figures were true this war would not be a stalemate

@dwarow2508

Жыл бұрын

There are also way more T14s and T90Ms then T64BVs or Oplots lol

@Dimitrije_Sukovic

Жыл бұрын

Availability of tanks doesn't affect the tank's technical category. Oplot is comparable to T90M or T80BVM; while T14 is a different generation.

Great video. Thanks for the info.

FINALLY OMG I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR A VIDEO ON THE OPLOT!!!

With how little of these tanks are there, it will be a miracle if they found each other.

Another cool and informative video from you. Thumbs up, like always! :)

Thanks for using my song in the outros brother 🙏

@fatcat4674

3 ай бұрын

Hi huge fan of your song! care to refer me to other similar vibe songs if u have any in mind? the vibe this song giving feels like oldish Russian type beat. very nice.

0:59 When turning the turret in a Ukrainian tank, the driver will be cut off his head or the exit will be blocked, as well as poor visibility around

I'm surprised at how effective duplet. It's very impressive and I hope to see it used more in combat

@user-dp4ok9ox5w

Жыл бұрын

It comes at a cost of being very heavy (and bulky).

@sdrkrm

Жыл бұрын

@@user-dp4ok9ox5w as it holds French 120F1 DU round at 100 meters with no scratch almost, I think I can live with that :)

@user-dp4ok9ox5w

Жыл бұрын

@@sdrkrm I mean the old 3BM42 still went in by 60mm, you only need to add some 20+ mm of penetration and it will go trough the side of a T80. The tank (Oplot) itself seems very sluggish and the additional weight won't do it any benefits in wear & tear. Making a good tank, is not just about making its triangle (firepower, mobility, protection) into a giant one, but it must be mass produced effectively and maintained for years to come. From what i understand, the Oplot has been plagued by massive reliability issues, due to its added weight and addition of components that have not gotten the necessary long term reliability testing.

@sdrkrm

Жыл бұрын

@@user-dp4ok9ox5w lol, the T84 modernization limits are much higher than that and additional 2,6 tons of weight makes no difference whatsoever. Sluggish? Yeah, right 😏 kzread.info/dash/bejne/eZ5oxriNqdjeerg.html

@koskok2965

Жыл бұрын

It's also great at maiming any infantry marching by the side of the tank.

Nice episode and info as always ain’t no one gonna mention the new outro

Being saddled with that "nursing home speed" reverse feature is terrifying. Great video, as usual!

Great vid but I would like to point out that T84BM oplot also can mount the KMDB 6TD-3 opposed piston 6-cylinder diesel (1,500 hp), instead of the 6TD-2E (1200hp) engine.

The BM Oplot is pretty damn good all things considered. The Duplet armor System seems super effective, and the mobility is excelent. Of course, it has a lot of oversights, and has reduced anti tank capability for a top modern tank. They are just TOO few to make any difference, and I doubt Rheinmetall could come close to UralVagonZavod's production.

@Lemosa3414

Жыл бұрын

Ok hoho

@Pao234_

Жыл бұрын

I would love for it to get some field experience, because the fact they had to remove part of the upper frontal plate to not break the suspension because of how heavy Duplet is gives me the feeling that the tank may not be as reliable as one would wish. Unlike Russia with the T90M, which seemed to modernize practically the entire platform (aside from the transmission lmao), the Ukrainians seemed to just build up on the old T84 platform, without really changing much from the basic design (aside from the turret ammo rack, that was nice). We may have something like a Panzer IV situation, where by the middle of the war, not much could be done to further improve it without redesigning things like the suspension or the general layout, something the Russians seem to have done with their original T90. I don't know, but the T90M seems just so much more practical and mass produceable to me

@esanahka9284

Жыл бұрын

@@Lemosa3414 Cope and seethe bot. How does it feel to know Russian Orcs are killing themselves off? Alcoholism, drugs, emigration and now wars where you are losing hundreds of thousands of young men for nothing have made sure soon Russians will cease to exist. Anyways we in the West are laughing at you Russians. Enjoy being a Chinese puppet

@esanahka9284

Жыл бұрын

@@Pao234_ Oplot has already seen battle. Russian tanks are everything than what the advertising makes them look like. This illegal invasion has proved as much. Russian tanks are downright dogshit compared to Western tanks

@phunkracy

Жыл бұрын

Why would Rheinmetall make T-84 if it has a decade worth of orders for Leopards. Which are simply better. The whole T-84 production is a hoax

People saying that it's strange that Russians aren't replacing the transmission. Keep in mind that this is still the nation that didn't wanna replace the KV tank with better and newer designs, and just slapped some armor plates all around to make it's armor more effective. The butt ERA on the T90M is the perfect example

@mosesracal6758

2 ай бұрын

The most probable reason is that theyre using the same transmission for so long that changing it would mean changing the production lines to the point where it could hamper the production of the tanks so much. BM-Oplot had the same production challenges when they were delivering tanks to Thailand.

Very good comparison!

I don't remember completely but wasn't there a video of a T-90M commander playing CS:GO in one of the computers (Idk much about tank electronics)? I remember seeing a video like that a while ago.

I would like to know if they could reduce the carousel autoloader detonation damage. They already have a shield on top so adding a sliding door like Abrams that automatically close after a reload is not that difficult. And blowout panel underside could be interesting but I don't think it could last a rough ride but blowout panels to the sides through the tracks can be possible. I wonder if they calculated it and come to the conclusion that energy release is too rapid for the crew to survive. Or it's one of those "possible but no money" situations.

@phunkracy

Жыл бұрын

It wouldnt be possible as the ammo carousel isn't isolated, so the pressure inevetably would still go to the cabin.

@alangordon3283

Жыл бұрын

Where would it blow out 🤷‍♂️

@derikWG

Жыл бұрын

Can't it have a blow out panel under the tank?

@phunkracy

Жыл бұрын

@@derikWG yes if you want a flying tank

@telurkucing5006

Жыл бұрын

​@@derikWG they might be able to do so but it had more complexity to autoloader mechanism and some new changes to tank side frame which they didnt like when T14 armata already answer all such weakness by isolate all crew away to the frontal part. It seems they just want to reuse all available part that already produced to create t72/t90 and just going to t14 for such better protection

A forward/reverse lever with lockout on top gears is a good idea. Our U1300L and U1700L Unimogs in NZ had a lockout for the top four (of eight) gears. The forward/reverse lever itself is handy when you lose forward momentum on a slope. Shortly after the Unimogs (mogs) came into service, a member of the RNZAF serving at Ohakea Air Base, removed the lockout pin from a Unimog transmission and reportedly got the truck up to 90km/h in reverse, on the runway, before he rolled it and killed himself.

Man thank you for finally changing the outro song!!!

In one video I seen there was a hundred t90m's in a muddy field somewhere in ukraine, they have defiantly ramped up production.

@knusern666

Жыл бұрын

link?

@renwoxing7788

Жыл бұрын

​@@knusern666 kzread.info/dash/bejne/ppyn2MStparWg9I.html

@korana6308

Жыл бұрын

@@knusern666 I think he meant not the hundreds , but 10's of tanks. There are plenty of videos online of that.

T-90M - mass production, Oplot- prototype?

@DaNuclearBomb

3 ай бұрын

Yes

@UnderTheBanner

17 күн бұрын

@@DaNuclearBomb no to nie ma czego porównywać

Thank you , it was very very nice , thanks for good and hard work ❤ from Denmark

"nož" means knife. English people cant read this but "nož" was the Ukranian ERA that cuts the heat.

Wouldn't Duplet ERA only be effective in countering kinetic and heat charges that are coming at an angle more than around 15 - 20 degrees of the armour? if the main principle of survival is using heat charges to dissect the penetrator, then the angle between the charges and the penetrator should be of vital importance. i can see the glacis being the best spot for it but for shots to the side and even from old RPG rounds that send a sufficiently small penetrator, this would prove ineffective if hit in the right spots of which the probability is around 30 - 50%.

@stingray-5863

Жыл бұрын

It's not that we have flying t90s shooting darts from the sky

@ibum4908

Жыл бұрын

@@stingray-5863 side aspect*

@dwarow2508

Жыл бұрын

@@stingray-5863 They do actually fire ATGMs and can hit a tank from the side easily

@Pao234_

Жыл бұрын

​@@dwarow2508And they often do (Though I've seen footage from a T90M shooting three *HE* projectiles onto a T64BV for some reason)

@ibum4908

Жыл бұрын

@Pao234 HE-F is actually quite potent on old tanks like the t64 if used on the Hull or turret roof. Since in reality life tabk on tank warfare, it isn't necessary to kill the crew or detonate ammo to knock out a tank. Simply tracking it, destroying the engine, destroying the optics, can render an otherwise perfectly undamaged vehicle useless.

They can expect a cruise missile incoming to the factory that resumes production.

@TheOnlyKingBee

Жыл бұрын

nah they always hit the malls

@user-dp4ok9ox5w

Жыл бұрын

@@TheOnlyKingBee Only if Ukr is using them as a base for their military or such a mall is next to a military site.

@TheOnlyKingBee

Жыл бұрын

@@user-dp4ok9ox5w of course why would they otherwise?

@andrew2353

Жыл бұрын

The factory will probably be in Poland, Slovakia or Romania.

@kennedytheretard975

Жыл бұрын

​@@andrew2353 HOI4 offmap factories..

2:08 One correction I have to spell out to you here. The thermal control unit on the left was made by Thomson-CSF (as depicted upside down in the still), while the one on the right is made by Thales. They're not copies of anything or anybody as Thomson-CSF (1968 - 2000) was the former trade name of Thales (2000 - current).

can you make a video why the shtora system (IR lights) are obsolete? i dont understand why no t90 in Ukr. has it. there is a tons of old atgm out there. i saw impressive results when used by the SAA, even homemade ones.

1:53 APFSDS is absolutely insane, those giant pieces of tungsten or depleted uranium move at almost 2km per second.

@Max_Da_G

Жыл бұрын

Maximum speed those APFSDS ever achieved in Russian service was just over 1700m/s which is muzzle velocity. As it travels down range, it loses the speed. So it's significantly less than 2km/sec. At 2km distance penetration is almost half of stated against "point blank" and even less so against angled plate.

@user-lz8qo2ie7s

Жыл бұрын

This is about the 2A82 cannon. About 2A83 I think we will not start a speech

Very detailed and unbiased video, keep up the good work. :D

bm oplot just renamed from - Т-80УД (1987) СССР. Its only things what you must know about it.

Excellent outro song.

Is there any guide on production costs of both? Because at the end of the day that would be more decisive.

@khoapham4670

Жыл бұрын

After doing a quick Google search: -BM Oplot: 4 million USD -T-90M: 1.6 million USD

@dhanu_4539

Жыл бұрын

Not really... During war times cost is not a factor. Only the the number of factories and the speed at which they are made. For example the US could produce thousands of the latest abrams if a war were to start even though the price of the tank is very high, but Briton couldn't produce even older challengers even if they are cheaper because of the limited production capacity

@squidysnose69

Жыл бұрын

T90m i believe is 4-5 million. Oplot on the other hand is only 3 tanks. So the price is higher most likely. If the Ukrainians produced more oplots before the war the price could've been on par or somewhat lower than the t90m price

@dhanu_4539

Жыл бұрын

@@squidysnose69 but as things are we are talking about comparing fords production rate to ferrari’s.

@dhanu_4539

Жыл бұрын

@@squidysnose69 I think it's like 20-60 tanks each month. With them expecting to increase that number even more. Russia has switched to a war time economy so there aren't any real restrictions.

Nozh/Douplette due to its design and function seem to need a pretty sharp angle to work, which might make it inable to stand hits not from that exact angle expected. So covering the roof might be nice for missiles comming in a ~30° angle, but not anything more directly top attacking, as this HEAT beam would perfectly go through the defensive projection from Nozh. Same with threats hitting Nozh from a ~90° angle, as these wouldn't affect the threat at all. As this might be irrelevant for (not top attack) hits on the frontal armor, this very well might be relevant on side armor. From teh space and angle of the side shield, you can tell that Nozh is single layered and either top/down mounted, so both ERA lines might have at least a bad angle left, or they're from front to rear like snake scales, offering good protection from frontal hits, and then gradually degrad protection the more the angle of attack shifts to the side. I also have my concerns about removing frontal armor for ERA cover. As ERA indeed offers better protection, and can be replaced/modernised way better, they still need to have something that have a indiscriminatly 'dumb' protection to catch the rest. Removind armor might make the whole degredation idea pointless. I know, its a coping strategy on top of copying strategys, but still i see some problems.

@nikitatarsov5172

Жыл бұрын

Addition: This limitations of Nozh rendering Oplot almost completley inable to protect against artillery fire, which is one of the main threats in the recent war. Maybe a combination of flat tiles (instead of the heavy armor they removed, as well as on top) with a single explosivly projected plate would make sense, and protection would be a bit less niche against KE from one specific angle.

can you compare the T-84U and the T-90a? since T-84U is the tank that is in active service in Ukraine

On top of every thing, both tanks look beautiful !

So Ukraine's "brilliant" idea is to field Leo 1's with a 105mm (L7 ammo), AMX-10RC's with a medium pressure 105mm (not compatible with L7 ammo), Challenger 2's with 120mm rifled ammo (2-piece not compatible with 120mm smoothbore ammo), Leo 2's & Abrams with 120mm smoothbore ammo, and are putting into production a design that has a 125mm 2A46 compatible ammo cannon? Whoever is the head of their logistics just walked over to the front lines waving a white flag, to hand himself over to Russian forces. Sounds like a totally sane, war winning strategy that could only be cooked up by NATO and Ukrainian officials.

@CH3TN1K313

Жыл бұрын

@ 15:33 "hundreds of T-90M tanks"... more like thousands. The estimate so far is 1000 since March 2022.

@RutakoVon

Жыл бұрын

​@@CH3TN1K313 Hundreds is accurate, why would you mobilize old stockpile if you had thousands of the best tank they have. Don't even mention the cope of that they are just using the old tanks for indirect fire, its idiotic to expose tank crews in outdated tanks unless you want to have less mouths to feed.

@mbtenjoyer9487

Жыл бұрын

Also Abrams n Leopard guns are a bit different You can’t put Abrams gun in leopard or leopard gun in Abrams so yeah it’s even more mess up ( M256 and L-44 )

@fabik805

Жыл бұрын

I mean they are able to wield all sorts of Artillery systems, both western and soviets, as well as an insane amount of fighting vehicles from around the world. Who says they can do that with tanks?

@ansonellis443

Жыл бұрын

@@mbtenjoyer9487 They may be different guns but they use the same ammunition.

Thx for another Great Video mr RedEffect, Both are great tanks, but unfortunalley to Ukraine Oplot is one of the rarest tank, losing only to stuff that failed like Osorio and AMX-40

@gerfand

Жыл бұрын

@@FullAutoWitch T-14 has more numbers under Russian Control (under less time as well, and this is adding the Thai order), this is a economical problem, I bet Russia has not focused on Armata... because of Ukraine, since everything seens to indicate an "armament campaing" starting in ~2016, with 2015 being the year the last year they tried to have minsk II upheld.

i saw the notification and though at first there was actual combat footage between the t 90 and oplot which i was really excited to see but its just a comparison video

love the new Geopold outro

It's funny how the best non-existent tank in Ukraine is compared to the main tank, which is produced in dozens of units a month. Maybe then Oplot against Armata or Abrams X?

If we talk about the effectiveness of the relic, during the entire operation, the tanks have never made their way to those places where there is this dynamic protection, which may indicate a high degree of protection.

Would it be possible to fit a T-90M turret onto a T-72 and update it to T-90 standards?

@BloPsy__

Жыл бұрын

T-90M is basically upgraded T-72, it's nothing special really

@pilotmanpaul

Жыл бұрын

@@BloPsy__ My man chose to type the most uninformed sentence to this date. Imagine comparing a T-72 to a T-90. Thats like comparing two entirely different SUVs to one another.

0:59 Oh my gawd.........that makes me claustrophobic just watching that guy squeeze into that hatch.

I really like the new outro song

isn't Leo2A6 the currently best ukrainan tank?

@wr0ng569

Жыл бұрын

Think he meant homemade best tank

@bicopgameryttm7266

Жыл бұрын

Yes and no No because its not a Ukrainian built tank and because it will probably destroy Ukraines logistics and yes because it's a leo 2a6

@squidysnose69

Жыл бұрын

Its the best tank in Ukrainian service but they have less than 10 i believe. Russia has hundreds of t90m

@Joe-og6br

Жыл бұрын

Only a clown thinks Western tanks are better than T-90M. Wait until they are destroyed of course they'll be excuses made. Wrong soil type for Leopard 2 and Challenger 2s or whatever the media says. Just like Ukraine still holds Bakhmut. 🤡

@georgethompson1460

Жыл бұрын

@@squidysnose69 MFW when they just drive them around a block with new numbers added like with cold war bombers.

I feel like the T-64 style autoloader does have one thing that you neglected to mention: It isn't inherently worse because the charges themselves are placed behind the main composite and explosive reactive armour sets of the tank, meaning that any shot that strikes them would have probably killed the crew anyhow, since they would have to have penetrated the upper front plate or the side of the tank. The T-72 style autoloader simply places them really low down, which makes them lower profile and thus harder to hit in any case, but that also means that the charges are not placed behind armour - if a projectile was to come in at a downward angle, enter the lower frontal plate, or a mine was to detonate below the vehicle, the T-72 autoloader is still equally vulnerable, if not more vulnerable. So, in a sense, I don't really think that it matters too much in this regard, and that the T-64 autoloader might just be a little better because of the speed improvement: if it's faster and has such a little impact on the vehicle's survivability, then it has to at least be able to be considered as a superior option, or at least on par.

@cherrypoptart2001

Жыл бұрын

i never seen a clip of a mine setting of a t72/t90 ammo tho.

@phunkracy

Жыл бұрын

The autoloaders are functionally the same, everything you said about T-64 autoloader applies to T-72 as well, except the T-72+ is more modern

@hellohelloington9442

Жыл бұрын

@@cherrypoptart2001 Well, i'm saying it's a /possibility/. A mine could easily set off a T-64 autoloader's ammunition as well.

@hellohelloington9442

Жыл бұрын

@@phunkracy The T-64-style autoloader and the T-72 style autoloader are entirely different designs? What do you mean by that? They're not functionally the same, and if they were, they would have picked one over the other instead of complicating things with two separate designs - there is /clearly/ at least some difference.

@ScruffyNZ.

Жыл бұрын

we're seeing a lot of top-down attacks in the current conflict. armour on top is definitely a bonus

many thanks

T90 has got to be the best looking tank ever, I still can't decide which variant looks better, the M has a very nice slope but I like the "eyes" of the others.

T-90 M has abysmal reverse speed i hope they can fix that problem.

@bicopgameryttm7266

Жыл бұрын

There is already a solution but it isn't used

@al1sa920

Жыл бұрын

@@bicopgameryttm7266 if there would already be a solution, this wouldn't be a problem. Having developed a transmission is not enough, you need to organise production, logistics and then meet demands of russian army. It's better to have 10 T-90M with abysmal reverse speed than 2 with good one

Отличный контент, продолжай в том же духе

I love that the battle management system has a picture of 2 panthers in the corners that is pretty funny

Can you make a video on the T-80UM2 and similar cancelled projects? The Black Eagle is particularly interesting because of the western-style autoloader

watching the t90m reverse is torture

@Skibidi24997

2 ай бұрын

Dont worry it got upgraded to 15kmh

Can you review the upgrade T54B of the Vietnamese People Army?

@annguyenlehoang7779

Жыл бұрын

I dont think they are that special :') better than stock one for sure but facing enemy modern tank then i dont think the outcome would be always positive.

@scorpiontdalpha9799

Жыл бұрын

@@annguyenlehoang7779 still worth a video though

Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the T-90M have arena aps?

@definitelyfrank9341

10 ай бұрын

Nah, it doesn't. They plan to install it, but so far no Russian tanks have it.

FINALLY SOME LONGER VIDEO

On paper, the T-90M is the superior tank (aside from the reverse issue). Of course, it isn't just the tank that matters, but the crew and supporting elements, so that somewhat evens it out. Perhaps in the future we will see a BM Oplot-2 which addresses these problems.

@neurofiedyamato8763

Жыл бұрын

If Ukraine is planning on producing the BM-Oplot now, it will likely get upgrades. Its over a decade old design that has barely any produced so they won't be upgrading existing vehicles, but making new ones. And if they are setting up a factory to make new vehicles, its a easy opportunity to upgrade its systems.

@Grimshak81

Жыл бұрын

And the reverse issue makes it on paper a worse tank. The other T90M advantage are very small and situational. The reverse speed is not, as the war in Ukraine shows. You’re much more likely to survive a battle in an Oplot with its reverse speed and better armor than in any T90M. Side armor in the carousel or not.

@korana6308

Жыл бұрын

@@Grimshak81 typical ukr. shill. It is absolutely not important , not as much as the ukr. shills led you to believe. On top of that ,nothing prevents you from turning around and using the full forward speed, as it only takes a few seconds. It is absolutely not the deciding factor in effectiveness of those tanks. As the absolutely majority of tanks are being destroyed while getting to the target and not while trying to reverse back.

@AugustSchroif

10 ай бұрын

The entire Oplot tank is on paper only.

@user-nb1nx2rm8x

7 ай бұрын

Чтобы сделать оплот надо 2 танка так как оба корпуса разрезаются не много в разных местах и потом свариваются😂 это для того что бы увеличить отсек МТО, а про защищённость вообще ничего нельзя сказать т к нет боевых подтверждений её эффективности, а то что Украина сможет из производить это вообще нонсенс

Thr bigest plus of oplot it's invisible because you never will see them.

I think Ukraine will try to produce BM oplot in subvariant 120 Yatagan to fix ammo problem. Because in majority Oplot and Yatagan have the same base but different gun and ammo storage. It possible that Rheinmetall will sell licence for producing Rh-120. That gun will be useful on that tank.

Cool thanks 👍.

Even if Ukraine had a wunderwaffe tank or a cheaper off the shelf one, I would question its production. Russia has historic and greater capability to produce tanks. So this video should just be seen as a fun one.

@RhomasTotevenaar

Жыл бұрын

If they have enough parts left to repair/more t90ms use of western imports means they can't get more parts. Perhaps they made their own replacement, otherwise good luck.

@akriegguardsman

Жыл бұрын

​@@RhomasTotevenaar chinese parts to replace western imports

@Misakimori_NM

Жыл бұрын

@@RhomasTotevenaar they already use newer domestic one on the new batch, the old batch still have mix components. yeah T-90 is so bad that still operating in the war and UVZ keep producing it in parallel upgrading the old one

BM OPLOT has better protection T-90M has better FCS and firepower

@bicopgameryttm7266

Жыл бұрын

And in reality both can't pen each other😂

@mbtenjoyer9487

Жыл бұрын

@@bicopgameryttm7266true 😂

@ac_pejk3113

Жыл бұрын

@@bicopgameryttm7266 that would be sight for sore eyes. Imagine the battle of steel

@Average_Slav

Жыл бұрын

​@@bicopgameryttm7266 "Yo guys wanna keep on shooting at each other until we ran out of ammo and we resolve the duel in a fist fight?" "Yes"

@KnightspaceORG

Жыл бұрын

@@Average_Slav Well, slavic blood runs through both sides, after all

the normal t-84 can also go more than 25 km per hour in reverse?

Hey could you make a video about the B2 centauro?

Lol "continuing BM Oplot production" I feel like there is a multiplication by 0 joke in there somewhere...

0:06 will be continuing ? when did it start ? come on Ukraine

3BM60 is more of an exhibition piece rather than actually being bought in numbers. We saw 3BM42 as recent batch as 2018 from this war.

@dwarow2508

Жыл бұрын

Except that it had been used in Ukraine as shown in this video

New outro music?

The t-90 is a sad tank when you realize it is a remodeld t-72 which is actually a better tank

@definitelyfrank9341

Жыл бұрын

T-72 is in no way better than T-90.

Royal Thai Army when they realized that they’re the only army that still have the Oplot tank in service now:😳

@vanos3488

9 ай бұрын

They refused to buy them, instead they bought tanks from China.

I've been using a t90m for 4 months now. It's a very good tank also it's the best looking tank in the world. but still can anyone suggest me a good fix for the ammo rack problem? Sometimes It's scary to drive in open fields.

The T-90M3 can weight up to 54 tons according to some valid sources, depends on the modifications. Additional reactive protection alone it makes 50t. Then you have all the other stuff.. I think 48t is accurate for the T-90MS in 2017 version.

@definitelyfrank9341

9 ай бұрын

Can you cite them please? I find an increase by 6 tons by adding some cage armor hard to believe.

@s4ss.m8

4 ай бұрын

​@@definitelyfrank9341 Not just cage armour dude. Carousel armour, cage armour, ERA, newer modern systems, 6ton on a tank honestly isn't much. Look at the TUSK Pack for the A2 SEP

@definitelyfrank9341

4 ай бұрын

@@s4ss.m8 He's saying that there's a 6 ton difference in weight between the T-90Ms in 2017 and the ones used today. What weight have they added to the T-90Ms since 2017? Just some additional cage armor for the most part, that's it. The modern systems, carousel armour, and Relikt were already on the tank.