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@pyeitme508

4 жыл бұрын

Cause those made in China aren't really good? 😂

@wonkagaming8750

4 жыл бұрын

@Omen X X to fucking highly Doubt

@7249xxl

4 жыл бұрын

@Omen X even a steamroller would steamroll the arjun. That thing is a piece of shit.

@wonkagaming8750

4 жыл бұрын

@Omen X yes to the other way around

@sheevpalpatine7588

4 жыл бұрын

i guess they should add the ZTZ96B and ZTZ99A to war thunder????

RedEffect: "just pointing out their problems" Arjun: "do u have some time?"

@atanade7309

3 жыл бұрын

hahahah

@hafidza.p8584

3 жыл бұрын

Hello technical departement here

@gOtze1337

3 жыл бұрын

if u wanna purchase an Arjun tank, they only accept gift-cards :D

@Tenohekabanzai

3 жыл бұрын

😝

@HuangGengran

3 жыл бұрын

LOL

Last time I was this early is when M1 Abrams Tanks didn't have depleted uranium in its armour.

@matevz532

4 жыл бұрын

the last time I was this early the M-84 tank was suitable for combat

@MAG_1204

4 жыл бұрын

Last time i was this early, M1 Abrams still using 105mm

@loichenseen4658

4 жыл бұрын

Last time I was this early, Bradly was suppose to be a troop carrier.

@wonkagaming8750

4 жыл бұрын

The last time i was this early T 64 still uses the 115mm gun

@arya31ful

4 жыл бұрын

Last tine i was this early, Sherman tanks would've still exploded when a butterfly lands on it.

Some Doctrines to not want the Tank commander to have his own gun. The Leopard 2 for example, doesn't even sport an MG for the commander to operate. The reason for that is you can not command, while you shoot and especially young officers and NCO's can get carried away by operating a gun.

@Frontline_view_kaiser

4 жыл бұрын

@tvercetti1 We do. There is a pintle mounted gun on the Leopard. However, it's not for the Commander to operate

@Frontline_view_kaiser

4 жыл бұрын

@iqbal sahibil yes

@Guhonter

4 жыл бұрын

@tvercetti1 Leopard doctrine is to never operate alone, it is always accompanied by APCs which in turn support their dismounted troops.

@Frontline_view_kaiser

4 жыл бұрын

@@Guhonter Yes. Almost. It's an IFV, or SPz

@Stephanthesearcher

4 жыл бұрын

there is a variant of the leo 2 speciffic for urban warefare. it has the older, shorter l44 gun(shorter barrel-better in urban area) it has top side and rear armor vastly improved it has a remotly operated machinegun mounted on top

From what I've seen in Chinese military tv channels (yes Chinese military runs a full on 24/7 tv channel with nightly military news and documentaries), China is very keen on modularity, so their tanks might have different packages fitted on them for different scenarios, and also the Army just isn't getting a lot of attention lately, since the 2016 military reforms, the power of the Army was severely reduced, the Navy and the Air force is getting all the funding and attention. China is also in the process to cut 7 amphibious Army brigades and turn them into Marine brigades under the Navy. It'll be interesting for you to go over the new Chinese Type-15 light tank, it ditched the Russian style autoloader for the French style Leclerc autoloader with blast doors.

@hansyang1697

4 жыл бұрын

Also Type-15 Light tank comes with Hydro pneumatic suspension

@g43654

4 жыл бұрын

Just a way China hides its hands. Sun Tzu said to show weakness when you have strength, and strength when your army is lacking. Also, China is a master in propaganda. If they tell misinformation many times, people will start believing it. It's called "illusory truth effect", and you are just consuming it.

@christiandauz3742

4 жыл бұрын

America wished it had Modern Chinese Tanks... ...during the American Revolution

@laserst1547

4 жыл бұрын

@@g43654 well said. America is the one who keep showing their strength, aren't they?

@EmergencyChannel

4 жыл бұрын

China’s main enemies are thousands of miles away across a ocean, so of course they are focusing on their Navy and Air Force.

RedEffect: *makes problems with Chinese tanks* The Chinese Censorship: "Write that down, write that down" Edit: Wow, take a load of the replies down there (sorry no offense guys but it's just funny that you're all arguing cuz of a poorly made meme joke)

@the80386

4 жыл бұрын

Their engineers don't need to learn from youtube videos, they're well aware of the shortcomings. The lack of said equipment comes down to cost-benefit analysis.

@soapman8970

4 жыл бұрын

@Christian Bai well that China mainlanders...not Chinese...Chinese is a race China mainlanders do not included us and wasn't represent Chinese as. Well...for example my self was a Chinese as well...China propaganda corrupt my friend mindset....kind of shitty tbh...

@the-blues-three

4 жыл бұрын

@Christian Bai dude, we aren't dumb. Why would we ignore it, when someone points out the weak spots? It doesn't matter who says it. What matters it, that it gets fixed asap.

@WellBattle6

4 жыл бұрын

ture Every year, China will pay foreign university professors hundreds of thousands of dollars to migrate to China permanently to import knowledge.

@the-blues-three

4 жыл бұрын

@Christian Bai what are you trying to say?

Can you do like an evolution of any “tank line” I guess? Like Patton tanks and the predecessor. Or like T-34s. Or anything else that has enough history.

@Stalin99

4 жыл бұрын

Hello Comrade Putin

@imperialguardsman5929

3 жыл бұрын

Blyat

Could you do a video where you break down what a world class tank should be, please talk about things like fire Control system, armour and other factors

@Weisior

4 жыл бұрын

T-14 with 152mm gun would be the answer

@Saberjet1950

4 жыл бұрын

I second this.

@ServusIchBins

4 жыл бұрын

Whats in THE name I have to break your dreams, but the Chally 2 isn’t even close of being the best tank right now. And to be honest, the Challenger 2 was already obsolete when it came out. It’s 120mm RIFLED gun stands pretty much no chance against the armor of most modern MBTs, maybe some older T72B3s, but even then only up close. Most versions of the Chally 2 still don’t have a commander thermal sight and even the one on the gunners sight is outdated. The FCS lacks when compared to its competition as the strong Europe tank challenge showed. Nevertheless it got some all around armor that will stop RPGs, but the frontal arc lacks here too. The turret isn’t Safe against modern Russian APFSDS unlike the Leo 2 or the M1A2C and the lower frontal plate is horrible. The Challenger 2 could compensate for those shortcuts maybe in the British doctrine, but would have been decimated if the Russian/Soviet invasion would have really took place, simply because a tank designed to dig in and defend won’t work in modern times. Soviet Artillery would have a field day with their huge amounts of MLRS‘s, 122mm and 152mm guns when they would know the location of those Challys.

@Drownedinblood

4 жыл бұрын

A bolo....

@ServusIchBins

4 жыл бұрын

Whats in THE name That accuracy makes absolutely no sense, since modern MBTs completely rely on their FCS (Leopard 2 for example has the 120mm smoothbore Rheinmetall and the German FCS which makes it the most accurate tank ever fielded). Other than that you should know that the Chally 2s gun uses a system to minimize the spin caused by the rifled gun which completely neglects the purpose of a rifled gun. The only reason the Brits still use the rifled guns is because their love for their HESH shells to put it simply as that.

ZTZ-99 seems pretty good if the only real problems are the commander machine gun and slightly lacking side armor. From what I've read it has a hard kill and a laser dazzler turret that can blind enemy optics (including guidance for munitions) out to over 2KM. ZTZ-96 is meant to be a light weight cheap tank and it really brings a lot of bang for its buck. It's around 1/4 the price of an Abrams and is more importantly, lighter making it more accessible to China's tough terrain. It's got great armor in a narrow frontal profile, 60% the weight of an Abrams and a pretty decent sabot round. These tanks fit China's mission profile very well (produced in large numbers, light weight, electronically advanced, effective enough armor and gun). EDIT: -China's military is made to fight an American force where I don't think any amount of side armor will really help against the main threats of BGM-71, AGM-114 and the M829A2. I don't think shoulder fired munitions would come into play too much. Not having side armor helps with weight issues. -China's terrain is usually either tropical or mountainous. These are terrain types that needs lightweight tanks. Tanks like the Abrams would likely have problems traversing most of it at nearly 10 more tons of weight over the ZTZ-99.

@hzc8942

4 жыл бұрын

Problem is not about the technology. Its about money~

@nelsoncheng2674

4 жыл бұрын

GongoLongo the armor on the side is actually significantly lacking, instead of just slightly.

@tzeentchnianexaltedsorcero2041

4 жыл бұрын

@@nelsoncheng2674 I mean, adding era to side armour is not rocket science.

@leonardusrakapradayan2253

4 жыл бұрын

Where did you read the source? I just wanna know And also because I don’t trust any information from china

@tzeentchnianexaltedsorcero2041

4 жыл бұрын

@@leonardusrakapradayan2253 The only information is from China, so either that, or no info. deal with it

All tanks have their weaknesses. I'm all the way down here in Australia and I was raised in North America, but my favourite tank is the Russian T-90MS. (A tank with its share of shortcomings). For those of us who love tanks... we'll live with the weaknesses and emphasize the strengths. That's the great thing about loving armoured vehicles. That's the fun of it.

The star emblem be like: "shoot me here"

@Ryan-kq3vg

3 жыл бұрын

Lol

@leel593

3 жыл бұрын

and its not gonna pen lol

@ravenouself4181

3 жыл бұрын

It's just for the parade guys, sheesh, we all know the final version will have stars all over it.

@Ryan-kq3vg

3 жыл бұрын

@@leel593 let see

@dabo5078

2 жыл бұрын

Yep and hit the thickest part of the armour.

I knew it. I knew there’s major problems with the Chinese tanks, if they run into Arjun, they’ll get crushed. If you don’t believe me, great, you shouldn’t.

@leonardusrakapradayan2253

4 жыл бұрын

Archie Wei you got us in the first half there not gonna lie

@loganw.3520

4 жыл бұрын

I agree, id take these over the Arjun, but both the Arjun and the ZTZ99/ZTZ96 would lose against the likes of even a M1A1 or M1A2, the Leopard 2 series, or even Russian tanks like the T-72B T-90A, or T-80U

@LOL-zu1zr

4 жыл бұрын

Logan W. Not m1a1, or t72 t99 can take on these

@Bandit_Sudo

4 жыл бұрын

@@loganw.3520 The ZTZ-99A can actually compete very well with what you've listed. The base ZTZ-99 on the other hand not so much.

@wzk921109

4 жыл бұрын

Logan W. I think the T99 have its place among the best main battle tanks. It’s all China made from inside-out, the incremental upgrades would come much faster; another main advantage would be PLA have a huge cost advantage to upgrade/ mass manufacturing.

Very sexy looking shape of the tank after this add-on armor.

@jonseilim4321

4 жыл бұрын

The boxy shape reminds me of leopard tanks, which are gorgeous

Good job on making an objective video about China without any hate. These videos are hard to find on KZread these days.

@dailyrant4068

4 жыл бұрын

Yep, without obvious bias and just trolling comments rather than factual analysis.

@sheevpalpatine7588

3 жыл бұрын

many blend in politics with military hardware sadly :////

@timmteller871

3 жыл бұрын

Well propably because there are lots if reasons to not like an authoritarian nightmare if a state like China.

@jiaruiyan870

3 жыл бұрын

@@timmteller871 well I mean there are also lots of reasons to not be a propaganda machine and spread hatred and misinformation towards a nation like one’s life depends on it lol

@timmteller871

3 жыл бұрын

@@jiaruiyan870 Misinformation might be a problem, but some deserve hatred. And the CCP sure does.

I just did a bit of research and found out that the front and side turret armor of the ZTZ-99A are made of a combination of ERA and composite plates (no information on the side hull). As far as I know the whole point of ERAs is to offer at least some protection to the APFSDS rounds. With that being said, I honestly don't think the armor is too much a problem. Also, it is a trend in tank design to produce add-on modules to adapt different combat scenarios and threats. An example of this is the ZTQ-15 light tank, which has a variety of armor options to choose from depending on the type of mission (including different configurations of ERAs). Also, the remote controlled weapon station is mounted on the newer ZTQ-15 as well as the export versions of the tanks. But I think it hardly makes any real difference since the PLA did not think of deploying these tanks in urban warfare anyways, and that all military exercises involving these tanks are in prairies and highlands. I've also never seen these tanks being trained under urban warfare setting.

Since most of their focus goes to the Air Force, Navy, and Air Defence, I doubt we will see these issues fixed anytime soon.

@jamesricker3997

4 жыл бұрын

Fixing the problems does not fit well with the grabd strategy of a the People's Liberation Army. Which is to drown any foe in a sea of Chinese blood

@229masterchief

4 жыл бұрын

@@jamesricker3997 sauce: dude trust me

@ryohandoko1450

4 жыл бұрын

PLAGF is the largest branch of PLA. That put a reason on why CMC keeps concentrating on PLAN, PLAAF, and PLARF. Probably Type 99A issue will be solved in VT-4, a new Chinese MBT.

@zegzbrutal

4 жыл бұрын

@@ryohandoko1450 Nope, VT-4 is similar to Type 99. Type 99A is still better

@ryohandoko1450

4 жыл бұрын

@@zegzbrutal Seriously? Isn't the VT-4 a successor of Type 99?

Can't wait for -Blue Effect- Alpha Defense to make a video again.

@Simon-zf6uw

4 жыл бұрын

He would or else his mother-in-law would spank him. Like he said.

@StYLaZOo

4 жыл бұрын

@@joeblowme5427 Ok not all the Indians, I hate the Arjun too and RedEffect did the right thing pointing out its problems because many people in our country aren't aware that our military has a lot of flaws. Anyways I hope your opinion about us doesn't remain the same. Have a good day.

@wonkagaming8750

4 жыл бұрын

@P Maitra HESH is shit for modern era and rifled gun dont improve accuracy, stop listening to scottish koala or matsimus

@EvoSwatch

4 жыл бұрын

@P Maitra HESH is near useless against MBTs

@wonkagaming8750

4 жыл бұрын

@P Maitra HEAT is much more capable then HESH and rifled gun dont improve accutacy the chally 2 apfsds has a ring on it to prevent the round from spinning which will make the apfsds inacurate at long range, however the longest tank kill is by a chally 2 but not because of the rifled gun and rifled gun have shorter lifespan then smoothbore, chally 2 gun can fire 400 normal pressure round(HESH,HEAT, and FRAG) and less if you fire over-pressuere round(APFSDS), M1A2 abrams gun can fire 1.500 normal pressuere round and many more then rifled gun

Apparently, the reasoning behind the remote weapon station and lack of side armor is that the tanks were mostly aimed at intercepting Russia on the northern plains of inner/outer Mongolia, where the entire terrain is open flat ground, and tanks would be supported by other tanks/mechanized infantry on the sides and rear. This is why the new type 15 light tank designed for southern rainforests and Tibet includes the remotely operated machine gun present on the type96b export models.

@monkeylee4818

4 жыл бұрын

Tony Li that makes absolutely no logical sense

@colin.k6263

4 жыл бұрын

@@monkeylee4818 wym? That you cant have specific tanks designed for specific battlefields? Must we remind you this is China we are talking about. One of the largest countries with one of the largest militaries in the world. It makes perfectly fine sense for the Chinese doctrine

@tzeentchnianexaltedsorcero2041

4 жыл бұрын

Still, Russian tanks are meant to fight on the European plain, that doesn't stop them from getting CROWs on their newest tanks

@jeffpeng1118

4 жыл бұрын

lol, its a horrible reason then. Tanks should be multi-purpose. it shouldn't be designed to just fight in some specific conditions. And Russia(soviet union) isn't a threat anymore

@colin.k6263

4 жыл бұрын

@@jeffpeng1118 they have the capabuluties to field such a wide array, and if you think about it, yes they are. China and Russia are only friends because of a common enemy, they had fought within the last 100 years. and hust because they're friends doesnt mean they dont have a backup plan. You think America doesn't have plans on what to do in the case of an ally becoming not so friendly

My new favorite military channel, good info, good community with low toxic comments, and everyone here love tanks.

@wonkagaming8750

4 жыл бұрын

If you want toxic mate, watch alpha defense

@Simon-zf6uw

4 жыл бұрын

And watch blue effect...

@wonkagaming8750

4 жыл бұрын

@@Simon-zf6uw yep

@leonardusrakapradayan2253

4 жыл бұрын

Or any video that criticizes India

@wonkagaming8750

4 жыл бұрын

@@leonardusrakapradayan2253 red dosent make india look bad, until alpha

Hey RedEffect! Great video as always. Can you make a video about Soviet/Russian APFSDS evolution?

You know red has a point when even xi made an appearance in the thumbnail

Hey bro, I m a CHinese and fan of tank I can explain those problems~ VT4 and VT5 is for export and they got the things u mentioned which lack on 96 and 99, but according to Chinese logic the equipment that can be exported must worse than what the PLA using, so in the Chinese military fan community we all think that it can be installed if necessary becuz the equipment can be expensive and since nowadays most of the budget goes to Navy so~~~

@republic0_032

4 жыл бұрын

Is that a good way to treat your allies?

@naoyanaraharjo4693

4 жыл бұрын

@@republic0_032 ask every single heavy weapon manufacturer

@LOL-zu1zr

4 жыл бұрын

Naveed Anzum Musa no one sells their best weapons, export versions are always bad

@jinnanwu3926

4 жыл бұрын

@@republic0_032 ask the US if they sell their depleted uranium armored abrams to their middle east buyers

@republic0_032

4 жыл бұрын

@@jinnanwu3926 of course they don’t, but still if you want the edge you gotta be better 😒 I hear Chinese long range radars in Syria failed too, which was supposed to detect stealth aircraft.

watching your videos really makes me learn a lot, thx for uploading

"Crew needs to rely on maps or smart phones for navigation". You forgot to mention that crew also need to use SMS to communicate with other tanks.

Hello there.

@wonkagaming8750

4 жыл бұрын

General kenobi

@troopx

4 жыл бұрын

wonka gaming You’re a bold one

Hi Red Effect Team, Please review Type-15 or ZTQ-15 Chinese Tank in your next set of reviews. Thank you.

@xinyansun9174

3 жыл бұрын

@098765 Craper Type 15 seems to have added active protection and side reactive armor. The engineers must be watching red's channel!

@roj22fetals6

2 жыл бұрын

@@xinyansun9174 does it have a hard kill one?

Now I'd love to see your take on Japanese tanks, specifically the Type-90 and Type=10.

@Bandit_Sudo

4 жыл бұрын

Problems with the Type-90? There are none-

@arbeiterz8491

4 жыл бұрын

One problem for sure, way way too expensive

@arbeiterz8491

4 жыл бұрын

@Leopold I know. They don't mean to build them in massive numbers anyway

@Notmyname1593

4 жыл бұрын

@Leopold If it were to come down to it, China has a fair bit of mountains as well. Not to mention Korea, whom they may need to assist.

@goforbroke4428

2 жыл бұрын

@@arbeiterz8491 you need numbers with any weapon.

Dude I was glad to see a new vid while I chow down on breakfast. Nice!

The main problems with Chinese tanks is that the spring rolls ...sorry

@tk9060

4 жыл бұрын

@ivan ivanovitch ivanovsky Chinese have no trouble pronouncing R. Only Japanese swap them around

@ElliFong

4 жыл бұрын

Spring rolls is tasty

@c.j.cleveland7475

4 жыл бұрын

No, the problem with the Chinese tanks won't fit through the drive thu at Panda Express!

@edsalinas9996

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, and the eye sight is a little at a "slant".

@GJ67

4 жыл бұрын

ivan ivanovitch ivanovsky Are Yu bleeing fluckin flunny?? Me no feel good long time. 🤓😂😎

You should really checkout VT-2 VT-4 VT-5, those are the export versions of ZTZ96-B, ZTZ-99, and the new light tank they have. They come with weapon station as optional equipment and fixed most of the issues you mentioned. Because the sheer amount of armored vehicles PLA has and the defensive doctrines they adopted, some of the fancy equipment we see on western tanks are not really needed. The primary reason is weight constraints for tough terrains and weak neighbors (except Russia but they are allies). Most of the countries that China borders with has natural barriers/tough terrains that separate China from them, such as Vietnam and India. Western tanks that are built for European plains or deserts would have a really tough time traverse through mountainous terrains and move across narrow bridges that are not built to withstand 60 or more metric tons. Of course, these are the drawbacks that they can improve on, but honestly, such improvements could be costly and yield almost no benefit in real combats. Overall, great vids!

Thx for making this video . Your comments are very objective and good !

Type 96A is a 40-ton class tank meant to used in places heavier tanks cannot access. It is not meant to take on 60-ton class tanks.

Hey RedEffect. Review girls und panzer for the memes.

@wonkagaming8750

4 жыл бұрын

PTH already did that

@SwagmanKFC

4 жыл бұрын

wonka gaming I am aware of that. Not like a historical review because it’s already done but more like a reaction or show review.

@wonkagaming8750

4 жыл бұрын

@@SwagmanKFC i think red would not want to be lebelled as a weed

@SwagmanKFC

4 жыл бұрын

@@wonkagaming8750 He can easily use the excuse that it's about tanks. Plus, it's more historically detailed than a Michael Bay film so I don't see why not.

@wonkagaming8750

4 жыл бұрын

@@SwagmanKFC one word mate, *PHYSICS* Girls und panzer dont have it

Your videos are like 1min of warthunder advertising and 4 mins of content followed by funky music

2 hours ago, not bad. At least I get to see "last time I was this early" jokes while having the benefit of relishing the humor better by by being actually early. At least two hours early.

@Jrez

3 жыл бұрын

2 hours after upload is 2 hours late, not 2 hours early!

Nice job on a warthunder sponsorship! Hope that helped you out.

Anyone else hyped to get the ZTZ99A ingame?

Still, it’s better than the arjun

@wonkagaming8750

4 жыл бұрын

C1 ariete is better then arjun

@ilovemovies7848

4 жыл бұрын

Arjun mk 2 tried to look like leopard 2a5 😂😂😂

@tinn1134

4 жыл бұрын

@@wonkagaming8750 *than

@aydinali5381

4 жыл бұрын

My car beter than arjun

@Simon-zf6uw

4 жыл бұрын

@@wonkagaming8750 an infantry with a tow missile is better than arjun.

The type 99(modified)/99式改 uses a hardkill APS while the 99A's APS can be described as a warning system and a dazzler.

As a nation who doesn't intend to get into war anytime soon, with terrain so varied only the yellow river basin and north east are possible theaters for armoured battle, they really don't need a good tank.

Have you thought about doing a video on how each MBT fills it's role that the country designed it to fill?

Oh god here come the -99999999999 social credit comments

@yuluoxianjun

2 жыл бұрын

lol

Your video are great!! Thank you

I rediscover your videos about old tanks like sherrman vs panther or T64 vs M60. I really like it because there is more data and fight experience. Do you plan to do more videos of this type RedEffect?

Remote weapon station and other equipment are too expensive to put them on every tanks. And there are no street fight missions for PLA. I believe they will mod them if necessary. China will get there.

@ravenouself4181

3 жыл бұрын

They aren't really expensive, the main "issue" is the fact that as You stated, the PLA has no urban combat missions. The majority of it's forces are designed to fight against India in the mountains

@deaydpoawl8651

2 жыл бұрын

fuck you china the philippines stays sovereign

@dongmengze8161

2 жыл бұрын

@@deaydpoawl8651 It seems president Duterte is pretty willing to make comprises now. "Philip-China friendship never breaks" I quote.

3:39 it's fucking GLUED on there..

@ravenouself4181

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, because it's for the parade only and it's glued with silicone

4:26 tbf, no reasonable amount of side protection is going to protect against a 120mm or 125mm APFSDS round

Great content, keep it up

Message is edited because I no longer play War Thunder

@shugezhang4974

4 жыл бұрын

War thunder is quite lazy on the Chinese tree, made tons of copy paste and put hardly any effort on modeling.

@zhuravl-m2285

4 жыл бұрын

No... WT fucked the Chinese tree. Other nations get 3++ generation MBTs while China's prime MBT is still the ZTZ-96A, a second generation MBT. This thing is supposed to go against M1A2, Type 90, T-90A, etc.? Where are the proper Chinese counterparts? Never existed?

@MsZsc

3 жыл бұрын

there's a vietnamese anti air lol

@ravenouself4181

3 жыл бұрын

@@zhuravl-m2285 The ZTZ-99 [idk if it's the ZTZ-99A] is in the game now. And WT screwed over many trees, not just China.

@ravenouself4181

3 жыл бұрын

@@shugezhang4974 I mean, most of China's equipment was based on Soviet designs...

Driver: Right or left? Commander: Wait let me check on Baidu map

@noriakikakyoin6557

3 жыл бұрын

its sth called beidou satellite system.

Thanks Red Effect, it's very sensible stuff. How ever you realize that all of this is "On paper" analysis. Many problems won't be seen until the equipment goes into battle in a real campaign. Break downs and repairs, fuel consumption, manufacturing flaws etc.

@OtterTreySSArmy

4 жыл бұрын

I'd be willing to bet that China will find out their tanks are wholly inadequate. Especially if it has to go up against the battle tested designs of Russia, the USA, or the UK. I would be even willing to bet that the German tanks would give them significant troubles as well, even though they haven't seen a whole lot of combat.

@zidorovichburblyatya2862

2 жыл бұрын

@@OtterTreySSArmy Lol the Chinese are adapting foreign tech like the autoloader of Leclerc and they want their tanks modular so underestimating their equipment is such a bad move lol.

I really like the way that you used to start your videos,with the chemical suit soldier. And your work looks little bit familiar to matsimus

Red Effect: *points out problems with the PLA main battle tanks* PLA: *Sweats nervously*

@zamedoeswtever5267

4 жыл бұрын

And then work their asses off to attempt to solve them

@dailyrant4068

4 жыл бұрын

They probably know, but the leadership is putting all the money into navy and air force. It makes sense since they probably won't be seeing any large scale ground battle anyway.

@mickkrever4084

4 жыл бұрын

*Either you have vivid imagination, or impose your own feelings when you are scared on to others 👍Hope these are not your best assets.*

@Kirin2022

4 жыл бұрын

@@dailyrant4068 Exactly. It would be foolish for any country to attempt to invade and occupy the Chinese mainland. Much poorer equipped countries with smaller populations and less land mass have been able to bog down American ground forces for years on end (Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq). Any future war with China will be won and lost in the sea and air. If within the next 10-15 years, the only way the U.S. could turn a victory into a loss would be to take the fight onto land.

@limcharles9730

4 жыл бұрын

Alpha and his peepie: clapping with glee

Last time i was this early a man holding grocery bags was stopping these chinese tanks.

@albertkandhiwrahaspati948

4 жыл бұрын

What do you mean? That didn't happen. -I need my social credit-

@cleanerben9636

4 жыл бұрын

He was helping them actually by giving them directions like a good comrade.

@leonardusrakapradayan2253

4 жыл бұрын

Jastin 1437G what are you talking about? Nothing happened in -tiannamen-

@Simon-zf6uw

4 жыл бұрын

Ouh no...

@Ayy_Doll_Fiddler

4 жыл бұрын

@@leonardusrakapradayan2253 what does Tiananmen has to do with OP's comment? You hiding something, Beijing?

Great video. I think for 96b the reason is just simple: its price is mostly half of 99a as a massive produced MBT. You know, like T-34 or Sherman. Meanwhile the 99a does not have the remote control MG. The reason might the needs, since China does not need to engage single enemy. The strategy is to make grand attack with armored vehicles simultaneously, so the little defects on the MG become less effective.

This is a pretty fair assessment. I've actually read a paper that states type 99A's got a hard kill system, there were also pictures to demonstrate. It's in Chinese though, I'll try looking for it if I can.

Be great if it had a trailer to haul all the spare parts it'll need

Type99 uses an different type of active protection system: a two-mode active laser. Mode one seeks out enemy optics with a light ray to spot a reflection. Then upon finding it, it activates Mode two that sends a very powerful beam that burns out the optical matrix or the eyes of a person if it's a periscopic sight operated by a human. So a soft kill of sorts.

@bensmith6868

2 жыл бұрын

Hmm blinding people interesting

@d.o.g573

5 ай бұрын

Using lasers to blind people is forbidden

Hi I searched for your questions about the remote control machine gun station in the Chinese search engine. Some people said t99 does not have it because the tank was designed to counter potential conflict with Russia should there be any. There is a lot of open space and no tall buildings on the border. Therefore there is no need to put an remote machine gun station for practicality reasons. Great video!

the ztz-96b actually has it's hull fitted with FY-4 ERA, they removed them only for the tank biathlon because it will make the tank lighter. And compared to ztz-96a, it's hull is slightly improved with base armor.

Remember that time where the wheels get pop out on the tank biathlon race

@jiaruiyan870

4 жыл бұрын

Yes and it kept going. Unlike a Japanese tank I can’t remember the name of lost a wheel and was immobilised.

@sinachilles9086

4 жыл бұрын

@@jiaruiyan870 what do you mean?

@jiaruiyan870

4 жыл бұрын

Guiltia_sin Achilles have you not seen the race?

@sinachilles9086

4 жыл бұрын

@@jiaruiyan870 I've seen it but i don't think Japan take part in it

@jiaruiyan870

4 жыл бұрын

Guiltia_sin Achilles when did I say that these events happened in the same game?

"the crew needs to rely on maps or smartphones for navigation", did i hear that right?

@JohnNecirRebellion

4 жыл бұрын

Write that down, write that down!

@johngilpin122

4 жыл бұрын

Yup

@peekaboopeekaboo1165

4 жыл бұрын

Lowkey propaganda for bashing by Red Effect.

@JohnNecirRebellion

4 жыл бұрын

@@peekaboopeekaboo1165 I might say, China really does do things below things cheap or even free.

@peekaboopeekaboo1165

4 жыл бұрын

@@JohnNecirRebellion We're talking here of top of the line, frontline MBTs

Hey Red, I like your videos but could you add subtitles. Sometimes the accent can make it hard to understand. It's only rare, but it would really help. Plus my hearing isnt that good as well.

Finally new video

3:42 VT-4 had remote controlled weapon station .idk about the produced units

@joelau2383

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, China makes remote controlled station, but it keeps manual operated gun on their tanks because it is a backup weapon when the tank broke down. I mean some tanks don''t even have a mount gun on top.

@nighthunter9162

4 жыл бұрын

VT-4 tank could be a testing platform for remote controlled weapon station. I think they would put it on type99a2 tank in the near future

@shugezhang4974

4 жыл бұрын

vt2 and vt5 are also fitted with a weapon station, I actually don't quite understand why they don't install it on current mbts in service.

ZTZ 96B new T 54 in production numbers?

@arbeiterz8491

4 жыл бұрын

No, both of them don't have high production numbers for now. Totally around 2000 of them.

@shugezhang4974

4 жыл бұрын

Type 96 is actually a backup plan, cause the 3rd gen mbt under development back then was cancelled. So they made some modifications on export tanks to fill the vacant. combined type 88 and some features on type 85II, comes the type 96 (at first it was given the name type 88c). there were approximately 2500 type 96s produced. (including all variants)

One of the reasons why Chinese tanks don’t have CWS is that tanks don’t need it. It is a nice edition, but not necessary. For example, the Chieftain, ex Abrams TC, prefers to lock the CWS in place and fire the gun through commander override of the turret.

How about making a vid on the Leclerc s1 next I don't recall a detailed video of it

-50 social credit

@gavinguo3560

4 жыл бұрын

you really believe that propaganda shit dont u

The biggest problem of those two tanks is that they are not in War Thunder

@enzoz6928

4 жыл бұрын

草，，，，本反点分子不请自来

@jiaruiyan870

4 жыл бұрын

Lmao

@nima4797

4 жыл бұрын

why should they put 50 cent tank in there?

@kumakuma3335

4 жыл бұрын

老点！

@hzc8942

4 жыл бұрын

哇！~

I don't konw if you'll be able to answer this, but I was looking at a picture of a Leopard 2A5 the other day and noticed it has what looks like a scope under a tiny hood directly over the the mantlet. Now, I know the tank's main sights are to the right of the gun (from the interior perspective), so could it be an analogue back up? Regardless great work as always!

实际上96B是一种专门为“坦克两项竞赛”所改进的坦克，这也是为什么没有继续改进的原因，大部分合成旅依然装备着96A（you can play this in warthunder） 99改进型；看上去未来会逐步换装99A；遥控武器站出现在了ZTZ15上，未来也可能装上其他现役坦克

i was ready to see the chinese tanks get absolutely bashed like the arjun, however i am pleasantly surprised! Very informative video man, love it

@jonseilim4321

4 жыл бұрын

Probably cause the Chinese tanks aren't as bad as Arjun 😂 after all its copied of Russian tanks

@the80386

4 жыл бұрын

Unlike india, China actually knows how to make proper defense equipment. the indian impulsive response is always the superficial 'china copy! china copy!'. but the fact is, even copying high tech equipment require significant expertise on the side of the copier. otherwise every country would've done it. india wishes that they had the capability to recreate USA, UK, French, German, Russian etc technologies but unfortunately they simply don't have that technical capability yet.

@user-je9qp4hc9p

4 жыл бұрын

@@jonseilim4321 Hardly all copies from russia. While its true PLA tank design and combat doctrine is still heavily base on soviet thinking. Still the tank design have clearly start to show their own way of thinking, with mix of western ideas too.

@mhgao3250

4 жыл бұрын

@@jonseilim4321 Not only Russia, actually they got Leoperd2A4or5(I can't remember) and several second hand other western tanks (most of them were from Iseral). There are lots of western techs in their morden tanks, for instance they diesel of type99 is a copy of German Leopard diesel.

@the80386

4 жыл бұрын

@iqbal sahibil - no matter how many silly statements some indians make, we should maintain respectability. otherwise they'll use this as 'proof' that everybody is out to get them. as I'm sure you've noticed, indians are very emotional and get offended easily. so keep the discussion civil and argue specifically against their statements.

You forget the overlord tank...how could you lol ?

Hi @RedEffect I'm curious if there is any serious upgrade that allows old T-55 / T-62, using old 100 / 115mm guns, but modern ammunition and fire control systems to go through modern armor without using missiles, you have read something about it somewhere ?

@mxn1948

4 жыл бұрын

weird you should mentioned this in a video about chinese tanks, because china literally did that with the Type-59G, basically a good old t54/55 upgrades with a bigger gun and computers.

Type99 and its variants are not equipped with remote machine gun since they don't have urban pacify missions. Some newly models, like ZTQ15, equipped weapon station just for the urban situation (I mean Taipei).

China’s tanks are good enough. They don’t need the best tank in the world and wouldn’t benefit very much from having one - due to geography and politics, any major war China engages in will be primarily naval and aerial. Tanks cannot swim or fly, meaning the Abrams is unlikely to ever see combat with a type 99.

I had a good laugh. Too many things are incorrect. For example, Lack GPS, LMAO. Chinese military use Beidou, the Chinese Navi system. You can say almost all Chinese equipment lack GPS.

@yuluoxianjun

2 жыл бұрын

CIA:Thanks for answer

Some of the high tech improvement is just not installed on 99A or 96B. You may want to check the VT4 or other export tanks, they usually have the best and expensive high tech equipment.

May I ask where do you get your sources? As far as I know the Chinese military industry only publishes technical specifications of export model weapons, and most of the domestic analysis I saw within China about tanks and such equipped by the Chinese army are mostly form internal magazines and academic papers issued by the military industry sector themselves and those sources are only in Chinese. I would imagine it would be extremely challenging for a non Chinese speaker to find and analyze reliable sources of technical data due to this reason.

Hello RedEffect, another interesting video on Chinese tanks and a good followup to your first, which I left a comment on regarding some issues. Some thoughts on this video: 1. Why have you again focused on the Type 69B as one of the two primary tanks China operates? As I commented in your last video, Type 96B has not been serially produced and is not equipped with the PLA. An interview from 2018 confirming that the total short-run production of 96B was 5 units: www.jiffyse.com/shishicanyue/20181128/1105.html?fbclid=IwAR2eFWE5-9PYMPauATMybovkH0EQWhU2uCEuhFzeHbJnK2l37BP0ECDxCyU I understand you want to look at the most modern variants of these tanks that serve the PLA, but the 96B does not fit this category. You are a stickler for small details, so I don't know why this has passed over your head. Only Type 15 light tank and Type 99A are currently in production - why is the 15 absent from this video? 2. 1:32 "the tank also lacks digital display with GPS" - I refer you to this article which highlights the push for digitisation of Chinese tanks in service: kknews.cc/military/3m2q6na.html In the article you can see commander's multi-functional digital display fitted to many tanks, including the Type 96A tank (the actual most modern Type 96 variant in PLA service). 3. 2:18 - Hey thats not a Type 96B, thats an export derivative VT-2B! Its a little ironic you've included that since... 4. 2:37 "the tank also lacks remotely operated HMG" - but the VT-2B in the previous clip did! :D Anyway, a minor detail point but the 96B developers have fitted a remote HMG to a test vehicle, perhaps to trial the efficacy of its fitting to Type 96A: imgur.com/a/RCNkN0V I've heard nothing further about this proposed fit since 2018 so I assume the PLA weren't interested. Type 15 Light Tank has an RWS though, I believe. 5. 4:30 - regarding the Type 99A's APS, it is an improved version of the APS of the Type 99 - that is to say it is a soft-kill laser based system which detects when the tank is painted by a laser, locates the origin of that laser transmission and fires a laser shot of its own. This is designed to damage or disrupt the device providing targetting information for an ATGM, not to kill the ATGM itself. 6. 4:37 - While not the most detailed pictures in the world, there are images of the uncovered APS out there. Here's one: imgur.com/a/O0ZxEL3 Note that several pics out there (including some in your video) have a clear label on the APS, warning that the system contains a high-powered laser. While one might argue the system can contain a soft-kill laser and hard-kill elements, a look at the available pictures suggests this isn't the case. While China does have the technology of hard-kill systems (like GL5), to date no hard kill APS has been put into service on PLA tanks. Personally I think you missed the two biggest issues with Chinese MBTs: The first is that China has practically no strategic reserve of modern or semi-modern MBTs to call upon in the event their best tanks are used up. They have about 1000 or so Type 99 of all models, and about 2100 or so Type 96 of all models. Were this to run out in a major conflict they'd be down to a few hundred Type 88, 79 and 59D tanks of relative modernity. After that they're down to a ridiculous quantity of shit-tier un-upgraded Type 59s. The Yanks and Russians both have thousands of third-generation MBTs in storage, while China has no such stockpile. The second is that there is no evidence to suggest that Chinese MBTs have integrated blow-out panels and advanced protection for ammunition stored in the tank outside of their carousel autoloaders. You highlighted this as a key improvement for the T-90M, why is the lack of this feature not a problem for Chinese tanks? Also, your sources are kinda terrible. That one from Ausairpower was last updated in 2012... it literally predates the public unveiling of both the 99A and the 96B.

@mxn1948

4 жыл бұрын

i dont think having ~3000" of combined t99 and t96 is an issue. china has the greatest industrial capacity in the world, ahead of the us and leagues ahead of everyone else. if a war was so large that its eating through 3000 modern to semi-modern tanks, then its off to war economy they go, on full war economy, china can probably make tens of thousands of these a year. plus at that scale of a war, air force is probably more important, hence all the military money in china is going to the air-force and navy. pretty sure nothing short of a full scale nato invasion of china can be that dire for them(even a new korea war wouldn't be so pressing).

@powderedash7495

4 жыл бұрын

@@mxn1948 A valid criticism, doubtless China could indeed build more if it deemed it necessary. Still though the demand for modern tanks still isn't quite met within the brigades of the PLA, so they still have work to do.

@Brian7655

2 жыл бұрын

@@powderedash7495 PLAAF: new J-20 PLAN: New aircraft carrier 003 PLAGF: new uniform~~yeah!!

@dabo5078

2 жыл бұрын

@@Brian7655 They are getting new light tanks and rifles, machine guns (with the tacticool customization and everything) and Jeeps. Not as great as a new Jet or a new carrier, but still plenty.

@Brian7655

2 жыл бұрын

@@dabo5078 yeah, just like every other ground forces in this world

Love you from India ❤️♥️♥️ Carry on making knowledgeable content

@wonkagaming8750

4 жыл бұрын

Do you like alpha defense or red?. Serious question time

@hotsingleplaguedoctorinarea

4 жыл бұрын

@@wonkagaming8750 red, he uses credible sources.

@mkgaming990

4 жыл бұрын

@@wonkagaming8750 no

@wonkagaming8750

4 жыл бұрын

@@mkgaming990 ah, it you again

@wonkagaming8750

4 жыл бұрын

@@mkgaming990 indian keyboard warrior, what are you going to do today.

One small note: looking at the turret and the driver, it looks like the turret would block the drivers hatch if turned certain directions, which would be a major problem for the drivers survivability. Would it actually block the hatch or am I overlooking something?

@tonger7018

4 жыл бұрын

No, I know a guy who was a driver for the early 99, he said that there was an escape hatch on the bottom, and that the turret would never actually block the ability to open the hatch and get out

@redeffect whats your IGN in WT?

Conclusion: We know nothing

War Thunder- "almost fun"

for the APS of ZTZ99A, mmost sources claims it's an JD3 , and on wikipedia it's said it's an dazzler-like thing (so, an soft-kill)

Very good interpretation👍🏻

Long story, short: The problem with Chinese tanks is that they're, well...Made in China. It's hard to make anything of even vague quality, when your entire build process consists of stealing designs and/or reverse engineering EVERYTHING! As a result, China has absolutely no experience with very important things like the research and development, technical design and planning involved in the creation of amazing works of Engineering, Technology and literally anything else. This is why, despite a plethora of stolen blueprints, and warehouses full of Western and Russian Turbofan engines, China still can't manage to create it's very own Engine that is even remotely capable of comparing to that of the West or even Russia.

@accentedwanderer8623

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like MAGA to me. Keep up the good work

@snakeace0

3 жыл бұрын

I think people are seriously overestimating the combat readiness and effectiveness of the PLA. They have exactly 0 combat experience and the individual soldier is seriously underfunded. Their main Battlerifle is the worst one in use worldwide and they lack Bodyarmor , Communication devices, medical training and nighttime capabillities. I do not think that they will ever dare an escalation that would result in a real conflict. Their casualties would get real high real quick, wont be a good look.

In one of the Russian Tank Biathlons the road wheel came off X,D

@shijiezhuang6053

4 жыл бұрын

I seen that video but the tank still came in second place and beat the Indians tanks XD

@timothy1949

4 жыл бұрын

well it is the Tank Biathlons and Indian T90 engines broke down and could not continue. China actually won the second place for 2015, 16 and 18, third place in 2014, 17. whereas India for example has never been able to get into the top 3 in 5 years they participated in. So it just shows how naive you are trying to use this to make fun of chinese tanks without knowing what happened to other participating nations. and it was just a tank sport that little people care.

Interesting Thank you

waiting for your video on VT-4

They don't need best tank cause China doesntt war criiminal as west country

Hi Red, a couple of points and opinion and please keep up the good work, and it would be good if you could select HD footage instead, since many are available on youtube. 1. the chinese are too cheap to install remote machine gun stations on their tanks, the export version of type 96a/b (VT2, as seen in the video) and VT4 both have remote machine gun station as an option. The VT4 Thailand purchased come with remote machine gun station and AC (which again the Chinese are too cheap to put in their own tanks) 2. the thing on top of the type 99A should be soft kill active protection, you can actually see from this video of the parade they throw last year, the cover is open kzread.info/dash/bejne/aWdtl9OcdpWzd6Q.html 3. it appears that no chinese tanks in service is equipped with hard kill active protection, I only know there is a hard kill system call the GL5 and it is again an option to add for export customers, I think they are too cheap to add those on their tanks again 4. same logic apply to the completely unprotected sides, they are just too cheap, but by looking at the export version of VT5 light tank, they do have option to add heavy ERA side skirt for the tanks. I do think being cheap to their tanks is justified, since most of the budget went to the navy and air force and the probably of a massive land battle within China is not very high, not to mention some units are actually still rolling with type 88 tank from like the 80s. But I would love to see the type 99A with active protection and remote machine gun station and enhanced side armor, even in test would be nice to see.

@user-fc9cp1wo5t

4 жыл бұрын

timothy1949 you are right about being cheap. Their current mind set is that neither are we at war nor are we facing an imminent out break of a war, why bother putting things that increase our maintenance cost on? It’s like how pla soldier never appear to have plates in their plate carriers. It’s not because they don’t have plates, they just don’t find it necessary to use them at this time. Meanwhile in China, a few more typ52D, 55 DDGs and typ75 LHDs are launched. Can’t wait to see PLAN’s third carrier. :p

Remote fire machine guns. Only an 80 year old concept. Hell, Guderian, Rommel, Monty, and Patton, and everyone they knew wanted that in '43.

I heard the new Abrams tank ver 2021 can submerge into the sea and submarine itself near a ship to then rocket propel itself onto the deck. Quickly greeted by the Road Runner of course.😀

My personal guess: This is related to the operational requirements of PLA. 99A is designed as a large-scale field cluster operation. It is mainly deployed in the northern plains (99A is too heavy, and the southern hills and mountains are not suitable for deployment of 99A, so 96A / B, 15 / VT -5, 59). The performance of the tank mainly depends on its firepower, maneuverability, protection, and informatization, so 99A mainly strengthens armor, maneuverability, barrel, ammunition, and informatization, including laser blinding system. Automatic machine guns and GL-5 are more suitable for urban operations. Field operations have little effect. In the next few decades, it is unlikely that external forces will invade Chinese cities or China will transport their tanks to cities in other countries to fight, so let PLA spend money. Large-scale replacement of modules with little effect on tank performance is completely unnecessary. On the contrary, VT-4 and VT-5 are foreign trade tanks like the Russian T-90, so they can be equipped with automatic machine guns and GL-5 functions according to customer needs.

@d.o.g573

5 ай бұрын

Yeah it’s called a cluster fuck

NAAAAAA ARJUN BESTO TANKO IN THW WORLDLS

@Holydecipher

3 жыл бұрын

🤣

The Type 99 is a turbo beast.

Hey Red, why don't you showcase the MBT-3000?