Hey everybody. I've had quite a few people ask me where to get the rack. If you are interested in this rack, you can buy it here: bit.ly/38sotFR . As far as install, if you are located in Arizona or have the ability to come to Arizona, Matt and I partnered to provide installs and vehicle mods. Just contact me on the 4XPEDITION website at www.4xpedition.com/about-4xpedition/contact-us/ for a quote.

@terrysullivan1992

3 жыл бұрын

The contact link for 4xpedition doesn't work "404" ERROR. What would the rack and complete installation cost ? email me, Terry Sullivan, at go2tms2@gmail.com

@4XPEDITION

3 жыл бұрын

@@terrysullivan1992 I launched a new website since this video was posted. sorry. The new link is 4xpedition.com/about-us/connect/

I removed the NA rails on my Gen 5 / 2015 outback (replaced with JDM rails) and will do the same with my Gen 6. It’s been 7 yrs since I did this and your video has been a nice reminder of process.

@4XPEDITION

2 жыл бұрын

Great!

Awesome upgrade! Last time we talked I was looking at the Crosstrek but you changed my mind and suggested the Outback, so my next vehicle will definitely be the Outback!

@4XPEDITION

4 жыл бұрын

The Crosstrek is an an awesome vehicle but the Outback is much more utilitarian. I can shove a couch in the back it is so big and I use it to haul all sorts of stuff from 2x4s to what ever. Plus it is long enough to sleep in. It is a very capable all around vehicle. Commuter, etc.. Good decision!

@PADDLECAMPFISH

4 жыл бұрын

@@4XPEDITION Thanks for reviews on the Outback, definitely going to be getting one soon!

@kuladeeluxe

3 жыл бұрын

@@4XPEDITION Long enough to sleep in. That will be the first car I own that I can get a night's sleep in, Going to keep a thermarest and sleeping bag in the car now.

Hey Scott - great video. I have been watching your videos from day 1 and this is my first time to post; I am really enjoying your content. I am currently living in the UK but went to school at ASU in Tempe over 25 years ago now. It is great to experience AZ again through your awesome adventures. Thinking of planning my own trip back to AZ one of these days - I might pick up an Outback along the way!! I really appreciate what you are doing with your channel. Cheers and all best from Rob.

@4XPEDITION

4 жыл бұрын

Hey there Rob! Wow, thank you. I really appreciate you watching and sharing the feedback. I'm glad I can give you a taste of Arizona while you are away. It is a remarkable state. What are you doing in the UK? You from the states or Britain?

@technotracer1

4 жыл бұрын

@@4XPEDITION Thanks Scott. I am a Brit but I am more of an American at heart :) After I was in AZ for a few years I moved to the Bay area and spent over a decade there. I am now back in the UK but always dream about heading back some day. To be honest, I find the UK a little too tame for me :) I am following your adventures on 4XPEDITION; they will be a catalyst to make my return dream happen. Your content really resonates with me as I love the outdoors too. Appreciate your time on it.

@4XPEDITION

4 жыл бұрын

@@technotracer1 Nice Rob! I am glad to inspire. Few places compare to the vastness of the West USA.

Followed the video to drop the headliner in my 2020 Forester. Had all panels and the ceiling dropped in under 2 hours. Very simple, just nerve wracking at first. Once you get comfortable working with the panels, clips and recommended tools (these make life so much easier), you'll cruise right along. If you have an eyesight, pop off the switch cover panel and remove the two 8mm bolts before simply unclipping. I almost returned my Prinsu out of technical uncertainty, but after a deep breath, watching this video a couple times and following the dissembly sequence outlined in the installation guide, I'm glad I followed through. Mounted a Roofnest Falcon up top for a sleek, unibody feel that can only be accomplished with the Prinsu rack. Thanks for taking the time to author this instructional Scott.

@4XPEDITION

3 жыл бұрын

You bet, Chad! Good for you to take on the project. Not that easy.

Great step-by-step Prinsu roof rack installation. I don't own a Subie but watched for educational purposes. The OEM roof rails would never be reinstalled thus the OEM rails would have been cut/drilled for removal instead of the tedious task of lowering the interior liner and risk breaking various parts, airbags or the expensive eye sight. No way would I have been that gentle on the OEM rails. But this was educational!

@4XPEDITION

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

i really want to get this on mine, don't really want to pay to get installed and i've watched the installation guides from prinsu and now after watching yours, i feel pretty confident in doing it myself.

@4XPEDITION

Жыл бұрын

Good on you!

Nice job. I might look you and Matt up on some upgrades on my Toyota Rav4 4x4.

I agree with your recommendations and suggestions. I installed a Prinsu on my Outback and had the same problems y’all ran into. Only thing I would have suggested, although a bit late now, is to coat the crossnuts with silicone before installing them for extra leak protection. As well as a bit on the neck section of the bolts to seal the bolt and spacer (not just the bace of the spacer) from water getting in.

@4XPEDITION

4 жыл бұрын

Ya, I thought of that as well the next day. I've resolved that with silicon around the heads and base. Had a hard rain yesterday and no leaking.

@nathanevin151821

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing this video. I’m planning to do this for my Outback limited. My only question is do I really have to remove that plastic panel by the dome light near the eyesight? The screws are located only on the side of the ceiling and it’s bendable. Please help.

@RandallW20

2 жыл бұрын

@@nathanevin151821 I had to remove mine. It wasn’t bad and I never touched the eyesight system.

This was a very fun project!

@chovue2363

3 жыл бұрын

Loved all the tools you brought for the project! Never knew such things existed.

I would definitely stick with the stock roof racks after seeing the hassle. Thanks. Very helpful.

@4XPEDITION

4 жыл бұрын

Don’t blame you one single bit. However the roof clearance can be a pain with the stock rails.

@jcoats5529

3 жыл бұрын

It's a piece of cake. But you could also hire someone. Stock racks suck

Those rivnuts are designed to be compressed more than just one pull of the handle FYI, that would help eliminate the bolt length issue :)

@nick_el

2 жыл бұрын

yeah, I'm betting the rivet barely moved on that one pull, and he's putting a rooftop tent on top of the whole thing; unless they went back not on video and finished compressing them, those rivnuts are barely holding on as it is, let alone with windsheer against the tent. yikes.

ty for the detailed guide and tools needed list.

@4XPEDITION

Жыл бұрын

No problem!

Your videos have definitely been insightful just subscribed ! I’m planning to get a sky camp 3.0 mini dialed in on my 2013 Outback and swap in a prinsu rack. Right now debating best and smartest way of installation. Your videos give me confidence In the task at hand in replacing the factory racks. I’m wondering If I were to opt for a shop to ideally handle the process all in one (removal of factory & install of prinsu) what kind of auto shop would be the ideal to handle? Auto upholstery? Thanks in advance !

I need to add this to my 2018 OB

Nice job guys.

@4XPEDITION

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Robert!

Great video! Digging the channel. What tow hook are you using?

@4XPEDITION

4 жыл бұрын

Hey there! Here is what I use. amzn.to/2SdZfFL

I think you've got the best Subaru headliner teardown video on KZread. I've got a Crosstrek and I've had serious trepidation about buying and installing a Prinsu rack because of the headliner.

@4XPEDITION

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I appreciate you sharing that. It was a commitment for sure. Time and trust. Note, too, that after this install I ended up having a bit of leaking in the far back two mounts on either side and had to re-silicone those. So, it wasn't done until it was done...if you know what I'm saying.

When you reinstall the panels etc, locktite on screws is advised. Cheers

@4XPEDITION

2 жыл бұрын

Good add.

Fantastic install video. I have a 2020 Subaru Outback and looking at the Ikamper Mini. Would you do the Prinsu rack again? I think I saw you had the RTT mounted on another rack before the Prinsu setup as well. Are there clear advantages of the Prinsu and what would those be?

@4XPEDITION

2 жыл бұрын

I definitely believe there are advantages to the Prinsu. It is a total bear to install though. If you have the confidence to do it, I would say do it. If not, either hire someone or use a Yakima rack with Landing Pads to join it with the Subaru factory rails. Much easier but doesn't look, or perform as well as the Prinsu. Would I do it again? I would if I wanted my RTT to sit as stealth as it does with the Prinsu. Plus, switching to the mini was a major difference. Visit my website and click the link in the overland equipment for the Prinsu and for the iKamper if you decide to buy. It helps support the channel if you use those links. 4xpedition.com/equipment/off-road-vehicles/subaru-outback-overland-road-warrior/

Hey Scott! So I'm leaning between the Crosstrek and the Outback, and although I want the Outback for the space, the stock crossbars are definitely a concern. Is there a weight limit for the stock Outback crossbars? How did you get around that for your iKamper? It seems the stock Crosstrek roof bars can hold a lot more weight. Thanks for the videos!

@4XPEDITION

4 жыл бұрын

Both are great vehicles and have their advantages. Much better lift kits for Crosstrek available similar to the Forester. The Outback though has tons of space inside to sleep two 6-foot tall people. The main thing to consider is dynamic load weight, not static. Be sure to look into that if you haven't. I recommend you watch this video on how I mounted my Skycamp kzread.info/dash/bejne/pYGll7NmerzIf8o.html ( that was before I switched to this Prinsu rack - kzread.info/dash/bejne/dn2LscxrqdPcmdo.html ).

Very nice!

@4XPEDITION

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks GFG! And, thanks for your continued support and viewership.

Loved the video, super informative especially since I couldn't find a lot of info about installation with a sunroof! I'm intimidated by this installation though, I'm located in SoCal but if I were to go to Phoenix how much would it be for you guys to do the install? Thanks!

@4XPEDITION

3 жыл бұрын

To be honest, we don’t do it. It’s too much work.

@alanrodriguez1063

3 жыл бұрын

@@4XPEDITION that’s a same to hear... what were you guys asking for when you were doing them?

@zackballantine9252

3 жыл бұрын

@@alanrodriguez1063 ever find someone to install? Could manage it myself but if it’s not outrageous, would just pay to be done with it.

@alanrodriguez1063

3 жыл бұрын

@@zackballantine9252 how long did it take you? I haven’t found anyone... there’s another company named Spider No Drill Rack

Well it looks bad ass

That;s a lot of finnicky work. Good you guys are methodical. I'd hate to pay a rushed hack to install that.

@4XPEDITION

3 жыл бұрын

It was a total pain.

Since you’ve had this on for a while do you have any additional thoughts about the rack? Wind noise etc? Would love to see a long-term review

@4XPEDITION

3 жыл бұрын

Installed it’s great. Awesome rack. Getting it installed is another story. Not sure I would do it again. Due to the install complexity.

heck, I'd drive there from Florida if these guys could do the install for me.

@4XPEDITION

2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, we no longer offer the install services.

I'm looking to increase the total storage potential on the roof of my 2020 Outback. I'm curious, how much additional usable/mountable width do you estimate this rack added versus the usable/mountable width of the factory crossbars? I'm looking at putting on a large Thule cargo box, I know with the factory cross bars that would take up all available space. I hoping that with a proper roof rack I could also free up additional surface area to also throw the Gazelle T8 up there for transport.

@4XPEDITION

3 жыл бұрын

I have used a Yakima Box the same way. If you watch my video about Engineer's Pass in Colorado you can see it in action.

Hi Scott, great video! I’m thinking about installing this rack on my Subaru outback, but I don’t want to try and tackle it by myself. Wondering if you know of somebody in the San Francisco area who does installation? Thanks, Adam

@4XPEDITION

2 жыл бұрын

Hi there Adam. No sir. I don't know of anyone in the Bay Area that works on vehicles. Sorry. It is a pretty big job.

what did you use for the rubber liner to seal the extra holes? At least I have 8 holes per side, and only drilling 5 per Prinsu install guide (I have a 2024 Outback). Prinsu recommends waterproof tape, or silicon. I saw a clip of the rubber you used. Curious how you sealed up the unused factory holes. What product? Would Gorilla All-weather tape at Home Depot work? Put silicon in the holes prior?

Can you measure and reply with the base width of the drip channel to see if T-slot roof rails will fit down in them? Thanks!

@4XPEDITION

2 жыл бұрын

If you don't mind, go on Instagram and find the account 4XSubaruOutback. That is my son's feed. He now owns the vehicle and can make that measurement for you as he is in AZ and I am in NM. Here is a link: instagram.com/4xsubaruoutback/

Scott, this video is awesome, one of my favorites. I have a stock 2019 Subaru limited. I want to take it to one place to have everything done at once. Would your guy be able to do a complete transformation including lift, tires rims, the roof rack, led’s ...similar to your current Subaru setup? Can’t wait to see your sky camp mini on that new rack. That looks so sick!

@4XPEDITION

4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely, Chris.

@4XPEDITION

4 жыл бұрын

Go to www.4xpedition.com/about-4xpedition/contact-us/ and fill out your information and I’ll get back to you. Cheers!

@BlackLabelGarage

4 жыл бұрын

Id be happy to help! Reach out through Scott’s site and we can connect!

@es0terra

4 жыл бұрын

Black Label Garage that’s great. It’s pretty cool to see local business and content creators team up like this. I was nervous when Scott said you would be pulling off the roof liner...and then seeing you own it like a boss was so cool!!

@BlackLabelGarage

4 жыл бұрын

@@es0terra Haha I love working with Scott. He always has a cool project to tackle

Question for you Scott: I see you’re lifted on the LP Adventure 2” spacer lift. With all of your trails and experience with the Outback in the back country...... If there had been a different type of lift available, like a Coil over lift suspension, available for your Outback, Would you have done that instead?

@4XPEDITION

4 жыл бұрын

Yes. I would have done coil overs but lifting the front would cause significant wear on the front CV joints.

@BowmanOverland

4 жыл бұрын

4XPEDITION As far as I have researched, 2” and under doesn’t cause that many problems, if any. The particular lift Im looking at for my 20 is a max 2”. How many miles are on your Outback?

Question on the removal of the factory rails: are the single swinging cross bar bolts, as well as the 2 tie down bolts, only a threaded bolt that can be removed and the side rails stay attached to the roof? Or are those bolts the ones that have a nut accessed from the inside? I am looking at designing a rack that utilizes the factory side rails and curious if I could remove those particular bolts and use them for mounting, without removing the headliner and accessing the bolt heads.

@4XPEDITION

3 жыл бұрын

The bolts that show on the roof are only for the cross bars. You have to remove the headliner to remove the front to back rails.

@JCasper-sq2vl

3 жыл бұрын

@@4XPEDITION thank you for clarifying that for me.

Question: What is the clearance between the rear of the rack and the liftgate when it is up all the way? I'd like to put a lightbar in the back, but curious about the space.

Hi guys, do you all have any recommendations for a Utah based installer for Roof Racks/Tents? I was about to do this by myself but realized I need an extra set of hands. Thanks!

@4XPEDITION

2 жыл бұрын

Hi there. Sorry, no we don't. Best of luck.

Any recommendations for a rack that will fit a 4th Gen?

@4XPEDITION

4 жыл бұрын

Not other than a Yakima or Thule.

about to go through this process on my crosstrek. about how long was the tear down and reinstall process?

@4XPEDITION

4 жыл бұрын

Well the first time takes longer of course but it took us about 6 hours. That’s also because we had to run to harbor freight twice.

@jamesdecaro7284

4 жыл бұрын

thank u. it's the only part of the install giving me nightmares before I start. haha

@4XPEDITION

4 жыл бұрын

Rightfully so!

What year is this Outback? I have a 2022 and am needing to do the same thing.

@4XPEDITION

2 жыл бұрын

2017

Does anyone know of a cheaper alternative to this rack? I cannot justify spending about $1,000 on a rack for my 2010 Outback that is only work around $8k. I am considering just making my own brackets and direct mounting a platform rack that I can find used, or just direct mount my Yakima Loadwarrior basket.

@4XPEDITION

3 жыл бұрын

One of our TEAM 4X Members designed his own Outback rack. Really cool design. You would have to create an account on the Team 4X Member portal and become a member to learn about it, though.

How much weight are you comfortable putting on this rack?

@4XPEDITION

4 жыл бұрын

I can't say really. I have a rooftop tent on top of my vehicle and with the Prinsu rack I also have a set of small maxtrax on the roof. I have had zero issues so far.

What is the dynamic and static load of the prinzu?

@4XPEDITION

2 жыл бұрын

Don't know exactly but considering the rack is bolted right to the unibody construction of the vehicle at about 8 different points (requiring the headliner come out to install) I assure you it isn't going anywhere and the load cap is significant.

Any issues with the wind shield rubbing on the roof. Just finished installing mine and its sitting right on it. (I guess I can always move it up to the upper hole) thanks in advance

@4XPEDITION

3 жыл бұрын

I there. Nope! mine hasnt caused much trouble.

@koreygilliland6423

3 жыл бұрын

@@4XPEDITION thanks for the response! Super stoked on finding your channel! Are you on IG as well??

@4XPEDITION

3 жыл бұрын

@@koreygilliland6423 yes sir! @4xpedition on IG and on Facebook. And, you might consider joining the new TEAM 4X. I just launched a whole membership portal on 4XPEDITION.com. 31 people signed up already and just launched it. People from all over the USA and Canada so far

@koreygilliland6423

3 жыл бұрын

@@4XPEDITION Thanks! I'll definitely check it out!

Hey Scott. I have a 2020 Subaru Outback Touring XT that I am going to add a Prinsu rack and an iKamper mini. I live in the Boise area so I'm a bit far from you to help with the install of the Prinsu. I will probably have to do myself with the help of your video. I am torn on whether to get the Rocky Black or Black on the iKamper. Which one did you get? Is $250 more for the Rocky Black worth it? Thanks.

@4XPEDITION

4 жыл бұрын

I got the black. The Rocky Black is more textured I think. You might like that. Glad the video helps! Did the video help you decide to do the rack and tent?

@4XPEDITION

4 жыл бұрын

By the way, my recommendation: the night before you do the conversion get all the tools and get it all set up and ready to do. Get up early in the morning so you have the whole day to just take your time. That's what will make it less daunting-- having all day and plenty of sunlight.

@maltoki89

4 жыл бұрын

4XPEDITION Thanks for your reply. It did close the deal for me. I had a Prinsu rack installed on my 2018 Tacoma TRD Pro and love it. Been looking around for a pop up tent for my Tacoma and came across your channel. My wife just got a 2020 outback touring XT a couple months ago. You gave me an idea to have both my Tacoma and my wife’s outback set up for overlanding. That way we can use either one depending on where we go. Been going back and forth btwn the bigger skycamper and the mini. After watching your channel, I’ve decided to go with the mini that way it’ll be easier to transfer to our cars. Also, we will save some space for other things. We are converting from RPod trailer camping to overlanding. Thanks for your channel.

@maltoki89

4 жыл бұрын

4XPEDITION Thanks for that recommendation.

@4XPEDITION

4 жыл бұрын

@@maltoki89 Hey there. This is exactly what I'm doing. I have the Outback all rigged up for soft-road adventure. I am looking to add a truck of some kind or a 4X4 sprinter. I kept my iKamper Skycamp 4 person tent and am going to put that on either the bed rack of a truck, possibly a Dodge Ram, or on the roof of a 4x4 sprinter for additional sleepers and maybe even on a trailer to pull behind the Subi for when I bring Amy's (my girlfriend) kids along. There really are good reasons to have both a Subi and truck rigged up for Overlanding. Plus, if you bring friends or family along there is another comfortable sleeping space. On top of that, the Subi is actually long enough inside to sleep two 6 foot tall people. Thus, you will have plenty of space to bring people along.

What's the video you mentioned at 15:25 for dealing with EyeSight?

@4XPEDITION

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly, Zach. I cannot recall since it has been a while. Sorry I couldn't provide more information.

I made a Prinsu Install video for my Gen 6 Outback. I linked your video. In my description as another reference to watch. I hope that’s cool. If not let me know and I’ll remove it.

@4XPEDITION

4 жыл бұрын

No problem! Always happy to see more videos on that kind of install. Wasn't an easy one if you ask me.

@chuckiep268

4 жыл бұрын

4XPEDITION no it wasn’t. It would be a lot quicker second time around. But I’d rather not! Lol

Did you have clean up the excess blobs from the silicone from the plus nuts and spacers, or just left them like that?

@4XPEDITION

3 жыл бұрын

We cleaned up as much as possible. We ended up covering over everything with waterproof tape

@deadbrainn

3 жыл бұрын

Covering over everything, post install? Or before you put the rack?

@4XPEDITION

3 жыл бұрын

@@deadbrainn Before screwing down the rack. So we ran thick black waterproof tape over everything in the trough. Then we cut little X’s Over the screw holes. Then we dropped the rack on with the risers. Then we screwed everything down which made it waterproof.

@deadbrainn

3 жыл бұрын

What about inside the spacers, did you fill it with silicone too?

@4XPEDITION

3 жыл бұрын

@@deadbrainn Yes. Did that as well.

great rack! any effect on mpg?

@4XPEDITION

4 жыл бұрын

None at all. Didn't go down and didnt really go up. I thought maybe it would go up as the rack and tent are now more aerodynamic but nope.

How did the light install go?

@4XPEDITION

2 жыл бұрын

Haven't installed a light bar on the top yet.

I want this rack.

@4XPEDITION

4 жыл бұрын

It’s a great rack. Very solid.

I would never waste my time with the Prinsu

@4XPEDITION

2 жыл бұрын

it is a nice rack but a tremendous task to install.

@collinis1

Жыл бұрын

But are there any other options?

Did you get your eyesight recalibrated after?

@4XPEDITION

4 жыл бұрын

Yes

@4XPEDITION

4 жыл бұрын

Though I should add that it really didn’t need it

So you took the ceiling liner out just to get to those nuts at the bottom... if only Subaru had put in riveted nuts instead of regular nuts, you would have save few hours easily. Something for Subaru to think about I guess.

@4XPEDITION

3 жыл бұрын

There were about 6 if I recall.

@aggrex

3 жыл бұрын

My Prinsu roof rack install only required installation of the push nuts or rivet nuts. This was a very good by-the-books Prinsu roof rack installation on a Subie but it took way too long. If I was installing the Prinsu on my Subie I would have drilled/cut or destroyed the OEM roof rails instead of tearing down the interior liner. The OEM roof rails would never be reinstalled and discarded.

How do you guys do installs for those in CA?

@4XPEDITION

4 жыл бұрын

You would have to bring your vehicle to Phoenix.

why the hell pull the headliner...to remove the garbage oem rails? just abandon the hardware. Pulling the headliner to install blind riv-nuts.....not really the idea there boys. Made this 90% harder / longer than it needed to be.

@The88ninjas

Жыл бұрын

How exactly would you do it? Cut up the oem rack? How are you gonna get the nuts on the bottom side? Cut the bolts and just let the nuts roll around in your headliner? Most people spend more time on their phone in 1 day than it would take to install this properly. Put down the phone and do it right.

@bjlanders

Жыл бұрын

@@The88ninjas yup, you got it, let the nuts drop..they will only roll as far as the nearest pinch, and then live there forever.

@The88ninjas

Жыл бұрын

@@bjlanders no way. I’m sure they would vibrate and buzz on something.

@4XPEDITION

Жыл бұрын

Yeah. I wouldn't do that. Off road they will bounce around and rattle. Off-road vehicles have enough rattle as it is than to unnecessarily add more.

Thank you for this amazing video. I have a 2017 outback and want to get the Prinsu roofrack before getting a RTT. Now this is a very daunting task and I would rather pay someone who knows what they're doing to do this. Problem is I live in WA! Do you happen to have any contacts in this area that can help me out? Thanks a bunch!

@4XPEDITION

3 жыл бұрын

You might look at my pals up at Northwest Overland. They do wrenching meetups. Look up Dan Cronin. He’s the founder. Tell him Scott sent you.

@skeeter5240

3 жыл бұрын

Did you get this installed?

@4XPEDITION

3 жыл бұрын

I do have some names for you Rei. If you go to my website at 4Xpedition.com And fill out the contact form I will respond with some names and phone numbers

@Rei-fl2vp

3 жыл бұрын

@@4XPEDITION thank you for this option :) I did end up having a frontrunner slimline installed instead so it all worked out in the end!