Prinsu was a bit misleading in this video in regards to the ease of compressing the rivnut to put it generously. Using the coupler and washers is quite difficult and why they do not just install them at the factory with the proper tools is beyond me. Anyways after some trial and error here is the technique that worked for me - it is easier as a two person job: 1. Set up the rivnut, washers, and coupler as shown in the video. Use a 1/2 inch wrench to hold the coupler and a 1/2 inch socket wrench to turn the bolt. 2. The key to getting the rivnut to start to compress rather than hopelessly spin is to have have one person hold the coupler with the 1/2 inch wrench while the other person turns the bolt and as you begin to turn the bolt, tilt the rivnut slightly away from flush to help it grip and start to compress. 3. Once it starts to compress, flatten it back to flush. This may require a light tap with a hammer or rubber mallet depending on how much compression has started. 4. Continue having one person hold the coupler while the other turns the bolt until the rivnut is fully compressed. It will take a significant amount of force to continue to compress the rivnut. Hope this helps a bit and hope the rest of the install goes more smoothly than how it has started… Seriously, Prinsu, just pre install these rivnuts - it would be a breeze with the proper tool.

@alteredstates333

Жыл бұрын

Yea I’ve gone in circles trying to get the rivnuts in. Absolutely bent n destroyed coupler trying and now need to drive around town trying to find another. Absolutely ridiculous they made them this way or at least didn’t compress in shop. Funny how even in vid they cut to a completed compressed rivnut. Just ridiculous

Thanks for the video! I think an showing an awning mounted to the quick release mounts and the attaching and removal of the awning would have completed this video.

@aros702

3 жыл бұрын

This always do short videos that make it look easy. I had a hell of time installing the load panels with the plastic trim, they made it seem easy in video. I had to hammer it with a mallet. In the video they slide it in by hand like and just mention it can be hard first time.

Just had to do this for the second time - Figured it out last time after a lot of trial and error, and it was no easier the second time. The fact that this process is meant for the customer to do themselves, and this is the only instruction, is absolutely wild. And the cherry in top is that when you finally get the riv nuts compressed and the awning up, compressing the butterfly clamps is incredibly hard and the cheap metal bends with minimal pressure.

@adventuresnake7106

2 жыл бұрын

What’s the secret to compressing the rivnut?

@GKO33

2 жыл бұрын

@@adventuresnake7106 a lot of patience, and a lot of force. Pushing at the correct angle with your lower wrench to make the nut stop turning when you turn the upper wrench is key, but it's hard, especially on the non-level sides. I held them between my legs for more leverage.

@chrishusker3947

Жыл бұрын

I agree 💯. No physical instructions included so you have to comb their site or KZread for installation help. The plus nuts they gave me with my kit did not just drop into their holes. They were slightly too big. So I had to tap them in with a hammer. Why not just install the damn plus nuts or weld a threaded barrel already onto it so all we have to do is thread the retaining bolt on is beyond logic.

@Turtlemilk

Жыл бұрын

Is there a lock on this so I can lock up my awning or no?

@GKO33

Жыл бұрын

@@Turtlemilk there’s a hole so you can put a lock through it

Thanks for finally making this video. I had no idea what to do with Those rivnuts when installing my awning

After reading all these complaints about compressing rivet nuts .. I thought maybe things changed and will come compressed, well not the case. I am here fighting with them all day. Broke 3 out of 4 and pinched myself many times. Just ordered 100 pcs on Amazon I ain't giving up till I figure it out. Prinsu if you read this , please make another video showing the struggle how it's done .. not just done.

reading the downfalls of this mount is really scaring me away from the prinsu rack. I thought everything from you guys was top notch,

This is absolutely hilarious that they breeze over the rivnut process. Here’s what worked. -Setup is the same as in the video. - I have a ‘hex shanked socket driver’ adapter for my impact driver. If you google that term, you’ll see what I’m talking about. - Hold the hex coupler with your 1/2” wrench and drive the bolt into the rivnut. It should deform before it can spin. - Though a good idea, when I tried to lean the bolt at an angle for it to bite, I ended up with a angled rivnut and had to drill it out. Good luck. This is ridiculous that they just didn’t assemble the rivnuts before they send them out.

Thanks for making this video, looked at the bag of bolts and nuts and was wondering if it was for C3PO. I had no clue to crimp those rivets lol

Tons of comments on the rivnut install. Having worked with rivnuts before (lucky) I can say they work exactly as they are supposed to. Many people saying the install tool just spins. It’s important to hand tighten the install bolt first as tight as possible. Or it’ll spin. It’s a basic rivnut after all. I do agree that they should come installed. That’s a fail. Second fail is the common complaint that the space created by the tops of the rivnuts makes the clamping down next to impossible. This is absolutely correct. Horrible design. My awning hasn’t arrived yet but so far (considering the price) I’m very disappointed. My rack is fantastic. These mounts are poor. If I could do it over I would totally pass on these and just find a basic fixed mount. Don’t waste the huge money on these. Seriously.

How come the rivnuts aren’t installed at the studio during production?

@aros702

3 жыл бұрын

Right? Rivnuts so much easier with the right tools, this makes it more complicated then it needs to be...

@curtraso

3 жыл бұрын

This is so dumb

@stephencarrouth5291

3 жыл бұрын

Because they are a bit** to put in

@mariogiannini8609

3 жыл бұрын

Laziness

@stephencarrouth5291

3 жыл бұрын

Could be because they dont want to be reliable if they fall out and your awning flys off

So, I'm back to post how I made these brackets work. First of all it's going to take some gorilla cranking to compress the riv nuts. It's not as easy as the video shows. Secondly, throw those damn 5/16 bolts that go in the riv nuts away. The neck isn't long enough to allow the brackets to mate once tightened because there isn't enough clearance between the bolt head and the bracket body to allow the brackets to slide into position. You'll find the bolts at Lowe's. Just make sure to match the threads and ensure the smooth neck on your new bolt is longer than the oem. This will raise the bolt head taller in the bracket once tightened and allow the brackets to mate. As for locking the latches, good luck with that. I haven't been able to do it for fear of bending then. Piss poor engineering and the last purchase I make from Prinsu. Damn slugs don't care.

So finally got my mounts after waiting almost 2 months. Still no instructions other than this video. In the video they show the hex spacer slide over the bolt to install the rivnuts. The one they sent me did not slide over, it was the exact size of the bolt and screwed on. So it did not work, I had to find some other metal spacers I had from skid plates do the install... I don't understand why they are not pre-installed, then they don't even send the right part to install. Then in the video they show zinc bolts that go into the rivet nut, the threads on it only go so far so it will stop at the correct place when you put it in and stay in place. I did not get these, just regular bolts, which I don't understand how they will not back off without a nut just partially bolted in. Also in the video he mentions it works with the load panels. Well, I had to take everything completely apart to trim the plastic so the carriage bolts would slide in far enough in. Be aware of that, not as easy as the video makes it seem. So basically, wrong hardware, so only half installed. I suspect this was the reason for the wait and they sent different hardware to get it out, but clearly not the right hardware from the video. There is no parts list, so it is difficult to go buy my own hardware, and not wait, because i know it will take forever... Hope this helps someone

@BD323

3 жыл бұрын

"Then in the video they show zinc bolts that go into the rivet nut, the threads on it only go so far so it will stop at the correct place when you put it in and stay in place. I did not get these, just regular bolts, which I don't understand how they will not back off without a nut just partially bolted in. " Same exact issue. I'm having to run to the hardware store tomorrow to try and figure out the right part. The PDF instructions list it as "HEX CAP SCREW GR8 5/16” -18 x 1.5", so we'll see if that works or not...

@alteredstates333

3 жыл бұрын

Seriously needs to be some paper instructions with this and/or more detailed video with close ups of whole process. Would be such a simple n useful thing to include with brackets ....

@curtraso

3 жыл бұрын

I’m running into the same crap. The bolts aren’t even right. After we all spend our money on their crap they can’t even send $2 of the correct bolts. Jesus.

@sethkirschner4136

3 жыл бұрын

I am having the same hardware issue. Doesn't seem like sending the proper hardware is that hard to do.

"We've been getting tons of questions about the install" . Oh man you guys think that could be because you gave no instructions online or with the mounts? Some of it is straight forward but those rivet nuts are not entirely easy to figure out on first glance.

@bobbyfranco2185

3 жыл бұрын

I had the exact same issue with their skids... the online instructions are for a 2nd gen and their video is super vague

@aros702

3 жыл бұрын

I have been waiting over 2 months, and still no mounts or updates on my order. No reply to emails. That would of been cherry on top, especially with river nuts that is not common

@curtraso

3 жыл бұрын

Damn seems like a great company! 👎🏽

@alteredstates333

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly what I was going to write. After waiting months to receive with zero returned emails it would be nice to get some real solid paper instructions too. Jesus guys ....

@alteredstates333

3 жыл бұрын

@@aros702 I ordered mine two months ago as well and was told they would arrive 5 weeks ago. Wrote 6 emails and never got a response. Finally received bracket today and clearly no paper instructions n ton of bolts. Shouldn’t have to fight so hard for basic customer service shit.

What size are those rivet nuts? Didn’t come included when I received the brackets so I bought a set of 5/16-18 (matching the included bolt size) only to find out they were way to small to compress within the bracket?

What is the difference between the low profile mount and the standard one? I have a GX460 Prinsu rack and I’m mounting a standard ARB awning.

Has the design been improved on this? From the video and comments below it sounds like there is a lot of room for quick and easy improvements to the original design. I'm interested in buying but $140 is a lot of coin.

@fjnomad

2 жыл бұрын

I am about to find out , mine is in the way :)

@fjnomad

2 жыл бұрын

No improvement at all , this video is misleading. The rivnuts keep spinning and no way to hold them without smashing them.

@jbrewcomesthrough

9 ай бұрын

I received a pair today and there was no rivnuts. The studs were pre installed

Sweet so this allows me to keep my grab handles on my rack and run the awning ???

Do you have a video showing the 23 zero awning install using your mounts. What mounts do you recommend from your line. I have the Prinsu rack on my 3rd gen taco

What’s the difference of low profile and standard bracket?

@PrinsuRacks

3 жыл бұрын

It all has to do with the size and weight of the awning you're wanting to mount the standard is for bigger types that need more support while low profile allows a tent on top and a smaller awning.

@edgarpadron5012

3 жыл бұрын

Can the low profile bracket holds an Arb awning 8.2 X 8.2 ft? On top of my rack is RTT i hope there is enough clearance. Thanks

@amvirpariya

2 жыл бұрын

@@PrinsuRacks what is the wait capacity for low profile. I got ARB 8.2 ft which is about 45Lb .

I have a full prinsu rack for a 5th gen runner, cali raised light bar up front with an ikamper skycamp 2.0 on top. I also bought your guys’ awning mount but not this one in the video. My current mounts won’t clear the rtt, will these?

@PrinsuRacks

3 жыл бұрын

Depends on the tent but with the tent mounting feet and we do offer these brackets in low profile along with our standard mounting low profile and those should be able to clear.

How come when using the hex coupler it doesn’t actually compress… I noticed the video cuts to the rib but already being compressed…🤔

Whats the difference between the low profile and standard version

@PrinsuRacks

3 жыл бұрын

It all has to do with the size and weight of the awning you're wanting to mount the standard is for bigger types that need more support while low profile allows a tent on top and a smaller awning.

What’s the exact size for rivet nuts ? I bought bunch of 5/16-18 they are too small. I broke one of the 4 came with the brackets .

Can you have this quick mount awning brackets installed on the same side as the Baja scene light handles?

At the start of the video you had the grab handles installed, and at the end they had been removed...

Will this fit a uptop bravo roofrack? Thanks!

Nice brackets I would love to know what the weight tolerance of these brackets would be? The awning I’m considering getting comes from the Bush company 270° awning however it’s quite heavy weighing in at 62 lb. would love to know if these brackets are capable of holding it particularly when you’re bouncing around off-road the last thing I want is for the snap off.

@grn9209

Жыл бұрын

I have the same question!

@russellwood8750

Жыл бұрын

@@grn9209 I wish I could answer it for you I still don't know.

Why doesn't the kit come with hardware to put the other half on the awning

Why its not in the online site shop anymore?

These rivnuts have taken 10 years off my lifespan

Is there anyway to lock the awning to avoid theft?

@aros702

3 жыл бұрын

The brackets have tabs with a hole for which I can only assume is for a lock, not sure what else it could be for.

@chrisdaughters

3 жыл бұрын

@@aros702 which hole are you talking about exactly? Took a picture of the instructions of the hole I think you mean but wanted to confirm. photos.app.goo.gl/DcepEy8yAWbnPGbK7 I love www.boltlock.com/ for locks, they key to your ignition key so no extras or combo locks.

@aros702

3 жыл бұрын

@@chrisdaughters Yes that is the one. Never heard of those locks, cool idea.

Are these the low profile or the standard height ones? I realize it won’t change the installation process.

@PrinsuRacks

3 жыл бұрын

Those are the standard

You designed the cam locks to work when the brackets are flush face to face, and even that’s a pain. You add the rivnut bushings between the two and can no longer lock the cams to secure the two pieces !!

@asalvo124

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly this. It's like amateur hour over there.

@bullakay

3 жыл бұрын

@@asalvo124 I called and told them about the problem (I’m an engineer), and they told me to force the cams over with pliers….

@Treetopflyer777

Жыл бұрын

Same problem here.

@TheKingDorito

Жыл бұрын

@@bullakay using pliers on a “quick release” defeats the purpose of a “quick release”

Justin, how in the hell do you get the rib nut to compress?! I've watched the video, paused it, done the same thing you're doing, but all the damn thing does is keep turning and it won't compress. The only difference in the hardware I received is the 5/16 bolt I got is black, yours is silver.

@PrinsuRacks

2 жыл бұрын

If you tilt the coupler slightly while you turn the wrench, it will bind the Rivnut in the hole and as it grabs you push it flat against the bracket to compress it flat against the bracket.

Is this compatible with Roam awnings?

How do you know how far to screw the 'zinc' bolts into the rivnuts? Mine screw all the way in?! How do I create the gap between the rivnut and the zinc bolt head so that the two pieces slot together?

@BD323

3 жыл бұрын

Oh, I see.. Prinsu shipped me the wrong bolt / screws.. the PDF lists " HEX CAP SCREW GR8 5/16” -18 x 1.5”", and I got bolts with no sheath at the top. This, along with you all dropping the locking washers in your roof rack and not including the lock-tite... I'm done, last Prinsu product I ever buy. You guys really need to take a serious pause on selling/shipping stuff if you can't even get the correct parts in the box.

@curtraso

3 жыл бұрын

Then they can’t even answer people on their own damn KZread channel. WTF!?

@scm2710

3 жыл бұрын

@@curtraso dude, after some back and forth with their team I ended up just cancelling my order. Really disappointed in their customer service.

@curtraso

3 жыл бұрын

@@scm2710 yeah I’d definitely expect better. I had to go buy the right bolts and now it works. I think the ones they sent me they found on the floor or something.

will this brackets work on my Westcott design roofrack?

Does it for a 180 awning Smittybilt

lots of parts just for an awning. :/ no thanks I'll make my own. Wish I knew this before buying the rack. Thanks for the video,

this wont work with my Rtt, bummer..

What's the weight capacity? My Kammok awning is about 40lbs

Well mine didn’t come with any of that hardware!

Would be great, too bad the bolts sheer off every damn time you try to take off the cross bars.

Can this be installed with Ridgeline handles there already?

@CBIOFFROADFAB

2 жыл бұрын

Yes it can!

Does it for a 270

@PrinsuRacks

Жыл бұрын

Hey there! Unfortunately, our brackets are currently incompatible with 270 awnings. We are working our way around this issue and should have a fix released very soon! If you have any other questions you can contact our customer service representatives at 208-528-0664.

My rivets won't compress, the only spin when trying to tighten down the bolt

@thatwideangle9781

3 жыл бұрын

I found it useful to grab the rivnut from underneath with vice grips. With light pressure, the vice grips should keep the rivnut from spinning while you compress it. Once it is starting to compress, you can remove the vice grips and tighten the rest of the way.

Can these work on the same side as the handles or no?

@PrinsuRacks

3 жыл бұрын

It all depends on the size of the rack and awning but in most cases they usually interfere with each other

How far does this push the awning out from the side rail?

@PrinsuRacks

3 жыл бұрын

Around 4 inches

I think this design doesn’t work when having the rooftop tent.

@bullakay

3 жыл бұрын

It does with the low pro mount and their 1” tent riser feet.

These brackets stick out a lot, that's not a really flush look

For the love of god do not order these please I hope anyone considering buying reads this first again this is a DO-NOT-BUY item these guys make a good rack and that’s it run away from everything else absolutely brutal install just close out the website tab, remove from cart and forget about Prinsu other than the roof rack anyone who wants mine I’ll give them away for free and you can finish the riv nut install because it’s to difficult to have them done at factory…for those who haven’t yet if you didn’t get the memo by now this is a garbage product 170$ for nothing not including shipping

What would make this product better is if Prinsu would bite the bullet and recall this product and deliver a better one. This is garbage.

EXTREMELY terrible design. DO NOT BUY THESE. The cam locks that for the basis of the qd system are total garbage. The tolerance on these is such that the cam locks are extremely difficult to get to lock over center. As a result you basically need to put in a ton of force, or use pliers, to turn these cams to lock. The twist knobs on the cams are made of utter garage metal, that contorted and bent even under hand pressure as tightening. When using pliers to actually get the damn things to lock, the twist tabs deformed so much they were popping out of thier pivots. You might be able to install and remove this thing once, but don't get any ideas about "quick release". Save your cash.

Terribly over simplified instructional video. Missing many steps and close ups.

why wouldn't you pre install the Riv nuts for the customer? Would just make sense since they are finicky to do without a proper riv nut tool

NICE!!!