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Primary kitguns - perfect builds for each type | Warframe

Find out here which kitgun builds gives you the most power in your primary slot. I've combed through all 256 combinations - before you even mod it! - to get the very best, mathematically assured, tool of destruction.
Don't forget, it is absolutely mandatory to give your kitguns cool and well considered names. I'd love to see what names you've got for your kitguns and what inspired them, so let me know down below.
For me personally, I really enjoy getting into the deeper details of weapon stats to bring you these builds today (and I was shocked to see the implications for Tombfinger). If there are other weapons you'd like me to do a similar comparison for, I'm all ears.
Timestamps:
Introduction: 0:00
Kitgun types: 0:33
Catchmoon: 2:12
Gaze: 4:19
Rattleguts: 5:55
Tombfinger: 7:15
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  • @George-vv5ok
    @George-vv5ok3 жыл бұрын

    Your mathematical analysis is a god send in a game this complex

  • @ArchDurandal
    @ArchDurandal3 жыл бұрын

    As an Engineer myself, I love the statistical multivariable approach to analyzing the Primary Kitguns.

  • @twinarcher8123

    @twinarcher8123

    2 жыл бұрын

    When I get older I wanna become an engineer is it worth it

  • @jonaskonrad

    @jonaskonrad

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@twinarcher8123 If you're into technology, math, suffering, physics, and sheer unending frustration - sure. Tho not every engineering major is created equal, some are way easier than others. If you love a challenge you'll definitely find it there. I specialize in numerical geotechnical simulations and no matter how smart you are, you'll find something to bite your teeth out.

  • @Rompelsteelskin
    @Rompelsteelskin3 жыл бұрын

    Good god! Thank you for explaining and testing all those kit guns.. Saved me a lot of time testing it myself.. Tha k you

  • @paradoxobscure2210
    @paradoxobscure22103 жыл бұрын

    Perfection indeed, thank you for your time and effort

  • @frankchisowsky7475
    @frankchisowsky74753 жыл бұрын

    Dude... I am an aspiring Data Scientist and have clocked over 2k hours in Warframe... This is two of my favorite hobbies crammed together and I'm sooo glad I found your channel, this is freaking amazing. If possible, please consider making a video walking through how you did this! I would love an instructional video so I can try this out to decide whether or not I want to remake my Tombfinger primary or pick which prime mod is worth the 20,000 endo I'd need to use to max it out (the latter being a prospective video topic, like which has more DPS, Primed Heated Charge or Primed Pistol Gambit?). Again, I just love how you were able to take raw data to help inform decisions. More than just Warframe though, I want to see your approach to this problem since this is exactly what I want to be able to do with data.

  • @billyjeanfiles8408
    @billyjeanfiles84084 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! Your time and sacrifices are greatly appreciated. I am a more fun type of guy. For gaze, i like to be the longest reaching laser. Not necessarily high damage. I like super fast firerate and fast reload, again, not necessarily highest damage. Your calculations are helping me GREATLY.

  • @lordeggo
    @lordeggo9 ай бұрын

    Something to note for anyone making Vermisplicer Primary. The beam propagates within a set time. Regardless of beam range the time to reach max distance remains the same. A longer beam takes less time to hit an enemy within it's max range.

  • @RunningShovel
    @RunningShovel2 жыл бұрын

    So I came back for the New War having stopped just after maxing Solaris U, and I hadn't messed with any of the Kitguns. This video is my primary source and I've had great fun trying them all out. The numerical analysis and graphing is an amazing help. I decided to max the firerate on the Rattleguts primary I made, and I named it the MK7-BRATON to mess with people. The day I max it I remember I have a Kitgun riven to unveil from 2018. I catch 4 fish without missing, and it's a Rattleguts +Magazine +Firerate -Impact. Ah, I remember now why I play this game. 😎

  • @Tomotozaki
    @Tomotozaki4 жыл бұрын

    Another excellently informative video my man! Good work

  • @TheKengineer

    @TheKengineer

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @TomMRickert
    @TomMRickert3 жыл бұрын

    This was so helpful and informative, thank you!

  • @TM-wm7om
    @TM-wm7om4 жыл бұрын

    This is the perfect video.

  • @TheKengineer

    @TheKengineer

    4 жыл бұрын

    This is the perfect comment!

  • @New_Wrench
    @New_Wrench Жыл бұрын

    11.2022 I like this explanation! I hope it's still relevant. That catch moon build packs a wallop

  • @boombeartree
    @boombeartree4 жыл бұрын

    I do really like the gaze i made a status short range build one first think im also going to make a crit long range one too see which one i like better. great video thanx for making it

  • @TheKengineer

    @TheKengineer

    4 жыл бұрын

    Glad you liked it :) Shrewd and Brash Splat will both make good long range beams, for 26m and 30m base range each. Brash loses around 7% DPS vs Shrewd. Here's hoping the Grineer pay you well for their mandatory laser eye surgery!

  • @boombeartree

    @boombeartree

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@TheKengineer lol

  • @guillermogerrycabrera7625
    @guillermogerrycabrera7625 Жыл бұрын

    I browsed yt after getting a tombfinger riven mod from sorties. And i have no idea about kitguns. Thanks for the info!

  • @Niki_Parvanov
    @Niki_Parvanov4 жыл бұрын

    Exactly the info I needed, thank you

  • @purrrp6114
    @purrrp61143 жыл бұрын

    i went for the gaze :D a crit beam weapon sounds amazing

  • @lee_mill3712
    @lee_mill37123 жыл бұрын

    I put on captions cuz there was a lot of background noise, captions did you dirty when you hit the "Gaze" section

  • @user-cu3il3ji7q
    @user-cu3il3ji7q4 жыл бұрын

    Great video! Now i need a kitgun for myself!

  • @TheKengineer

    @TheKengineer

    4 жыл бұрын

    Go for it! If you have the resources, they only take an hour to build too.

  • @user-cu3il3ji7q

    @user-cu3il3ji7q

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@TheKengineer I just got blueprints for parts. Next step is resources. I can't start doing Orb Vallis. Least favourite place rn for me

  • @lo-fidevil2950
    @lo-fidevil29503 жыл бұрын

    "Let's solve a practical problem" involving space ninjas. Gotta love that desicated british humor. Anyway thx for the info, great channel.

  • @applecorc
    @applecorc2 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Would love an updated one with Palmaris factored in.

  • @Jaimazin
    @Jaimazin2 жыл бұрын

    I’m not sure if this will be noticed but shooting my shot here. I’ve watched all your videos starting from the most recent ones. That being said, I love the zaw and the newer kit guns. I’m hoping you can give more data regarding this to utilize getting the mastery rank, mainly just for fodder.

  • @ThePopeOfAwesomeness
    @ThePopeOfAwesomeness3 жыл бұрын

    The MIGHTY SEER is the best kitgun

  • @yanasitta
    @yanasitta3 жыл бұрын

    Wish I would have seen this before investing so much in my kit gun.

  • @Ghork1
    @Ghork1 Жыл бұрын

    personal preference, but i preffer killstream over splat. rarely will you fire all the time, and i find having my weapon on relead is where i'll be in trouble, so having a faster reload is better for me, also means i can reload between enemies easier, or start charging faster with pax charge

  • @m3rc743
    @m3rc743 Жыл бұрын

    Regarding the infested kitguns parts. For tombfinger, is brash still the best for charged shots or palmaris is better

  • @R4ZORLIGHT
    @R4ZORLIGHT3 жыл бұрын

    Can't wait for the Infested Kitgun builds!

  • @wolfgang6442
    @wolfgang6442 Жыл бұрын

    Yoo thanks you so much for this guide like ima literally gon start building myself a kitgun which I feel I should build two both being primary fire for the catchmoon and rattle guts for those fit my gun type for shotguns and assault rifles

  • @wolfgang6442

    @wolfgang6442

    Жыл бұрын

    Also while watching your video I was even writing down some notes on what combinations I should mainly craft for

  • @gustavosalles7943
    @gustavosalles79434 жыл бұрын

    A question. Was thinking of making a tombfinger with steadyslam and splat, since the tremor gives a good amount of damage, but charges to slow

  • @TheKengineer

    @TheKengineer

    4 жыл бұрын

    Steadyslam Splat ranks 11th/64 for charged shot DPS, and has a sizeable quick shot DPS too. I still favour the Brash/Splat to be honest though as what it loses in quick shot damage it more than makes up for with how fast it can launch charged shots. If you need the ammo economy or rely on quick shots, Steadyslam/Splat is a good bet.

  • @jonjhav123
    @jonjhav1234 жыл бұрын

    Thanks a lot!

  • @joak410
    @joak4103 жыл бұрын

    I would love to have all this data on an excel sheet please

  • @Ypulse
    @Ypulse3 ай бұрын

    Damn i am surprised and sad steadyslam didnt made into top 3 with catchmoon. I cant even understand why so low performance.

  • @ddssrr1614
    @ddssrr16143 жыл бұрын

    This still the best combos even after the new kitguns parts at demios ?.. I was thinking of one of the infesting loaders to give 28% status & 28% Critical chance. Seems like a good build,

  • @TheKengineer

    @TheKengineer

    3 жыл бұрын

    I've not done the check on these primary weapons yet, but so far none of the new loaders/grips made the cut for the new infested Kitguns. At a glance though I don't think any of the new loaders work out better overall as none of them really stand out (again, only at a glance).

  • @ddssrr1614

    @ddssrr1614

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheKengineer OK thanks.. I got 2 rivens for the gaze & 2 for catchmoon i wanted to build primary's for & roll the rivens. thanks for the quick reply. appreciated.

  • @nicoxdundeex1861
    @nicoxdundeex18613 жыл бұрын

    I love you Kengineer

  • @JASVEENsNETWORK
    @JASVEENsNETWORK Жыл бұрын

    this video is made before galvanized mods so can u update this also after ammo nerf i think kitguns are coming top also they have pax charge arcane

  • @emanuelstornello8009
    @emanuelstornello8009Ай бұрын

    so when in doubt always go brash/splat

  • @rocketpunch12210
    @rocketpunch122104 жыл бұрын

    Nice overview.

  • @TheKengineer

    @TheKengineer

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks. :)

  • @honestmistake8167
    @honestmistake816710 ай бұрын

    I just made my first kitgun, a Catchmoon Brash Bashrack. Is that any good?

  • @i_nvade8098
    @i_nvade80984 ай бұрын

    How do you unlock these guns i wwnt tried to do it but its all locked behind a vendor

  • @Lyoshiiro
    @Lyoshiiro3 жыл бұрын

    Will there be a video for secondary builds?

  • @Ry852
    @Ry852 Жыл бұрын

    All this info was completely glossed over after seeing that you could turn the hex tiles @7:22 clockwise AND counterclockwise... it's cool though only 2k hours in before seeing that pro tip

  • @HAM-qi6de

    @HAM-qi6de

    2 ай бұрын

    Well using cipher is faster

  • @chrishoward4515
    @chrishoward45153 жыл бұрын

    Do you get mastery points for primary kit guns.

  • @TheKengineer

    @TheKengineer

    3 жыл бұрын

    You get mastery points once for each chamber once gilded, primary or secondary. So a primary catchmoon gives mastery, or a secondary catchmoon can, but not both.

  • @wolfhound146
    @wolfhound1463 жыл бұрын

    So I use Wukong a lot because I don't have very many friends. Sad as that is that is beside what I am about to ask. Which of these kitguns would you recommend as the best set and forget for the Twin?

  • @wolfhound146

    @wolfhound146

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think I might just make them all and cata the one I want. I would still appreciate your input though because I might get it before I decide!

  • @TheKengineer

    @TheKengineer

    3 жыл бұрын

    All of them have their pros and cons for a Wuclone, so whichever you're happiest putting a few forma into really. Wuclones don't really understand weapon ranges like with Catchmoon so can get stuck shooting at things they cannot hit. On the other hand, Rattleguts is easier for them to understand but with less potential power. So yeah, pretty much the one you've put the most forma/resources into building. That said, if you're able to run a secondary+melee loadout, or secondary only, the Sporelacer would be my pick of the six there.

  • @wolfhound146

    @wolfhound146

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheKengineer Okay thank you for the input! I will look into the Sporelacer.

  • @CasperDaWhiteBoy
    @CasperDaWhiteBoy10 ай бұрын

    Do u have a mod build for the catchmoon tremor and splat?

  • @CasperDaWhiteBoy

    @CasperDaWhiteBoy

    10 ай бұрын

    Ik you might not see this since this video old xD

  • @giulianosnk
    @giulianosnk3 жыл бұрын

    I love it

  • @Bobbysmith54999
    @Bobbysmith549992 жыл бұрын

    Best gun to proc pax bolt?

  • @originalrr3800
    @originalrr38003 жыл бұрын

    are these viable in steel path ?

  • @toxicsneeze
    @toxicsneeze4 ай бұрын

    Can u redo this video wit all the new parts?

  • @Meowsamurai

    @Meowsamurai

    5 күн бұрын

    There aren't any new parts besides sporelacer and vermisplicer, which got their own video, however, game mechanics noticeably changed, namely galvanized mods and weapon arcanes

  • @MM-ry9mo
    @MM-ry9mo2 жыл бұрын

    Hye, I'm new to warframe is this build still good?

  • @TheKengineer

    @TheKengineer

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yep, no change to the recommendations I've made.

  • @zenomight9274
    @zenomight92743 жыл бұрын

    those are just level 20 mobs you should have also showed proof of effectiveness on enemies

  • @coma2plays319
    @coma2plays3199 ай бұрын

    Showing guns on lvl 20's 🤣🤣🤣

  • @Meowsamurai

    @Meowsamurai

    5 күн бұрын

    There was no steel path when this video was made