What strikes me funny is the Repulsor doors are smaller than the Rhino and Land Raider doors... I can only figure that they must enter and exit the vehicle prone by diving head first thru them

@markbrigandi7497

6 жыл бұрын

gstealer11 nice! Do they do a somersault also, upon landing inside?

I could never afford an army when I was 12-13 so I'm making up for it now I'm in my mid thirties.

@Sup3rSaiy3n

5 жыл бұрын

David Miller I had 3 armies at that age and now I have 17 so I have expanded some what.

@bestestmichael

5 жыл бұрын

And I'm 14 and thinking about 3rd army :)

@mjburden8086

4 жыл бұрын

Michael'Studio I’m 14 and I’m starting primaris plus death guard with the dark imperium so technically 2 armies

@watts18269

4 жыл бұрын

David Miller exactly the same here. Lockdown has also given me the time I’ve not had in the last 15 years to paint them all :D

@RoozyyK

4 жыл бұрын

And here we are just a day after they pumped the prices up again ^^ Not sure if these guys are really that arogant or just dumb.

Nearly all the youngsters who come into the GW store in Durham seem to come from middle class well to do family's. Price won't be a big issue for them, but working class kids would struggle getting into this hobby. Limit the range of your younger customers, limit future growth as older customers fade away.

@Sup3rSaiy3n

6 жыл бұрын

David Martin Well said.

@draen13

6 жыл бұрын

so true man, i just made it into the hobby after 15 years wanting to buy those eldar guardians, i am now 30 and can afford it but all the ppl i want to convert (i live in a remote area, nobody even knows what 40k is) check the prices and immediately walk away due to the horrible pricing... maybe i have to have children so i can find someone to play with lol

@davidmartin1793

6 жыл бұрын

Αntonis B. Children cost more than Primaris space marines 😆

@draen13

6 жыл бұрын

Totally agree and i would like to avoid dealing with little chaos gods in my life but i really want to use those biel tan some day!

@davidmartin1793

6 жыл бұрын

Αntonis B. Just bought a box of Necrons for my 5 yr son to have a go painting. Washed and dry brushed 3 then wanted to paint the rest day glow colours. Good fun 😆

Nice work covering the Primaris releases over these few weeks/months Super. I'm always looking forward to your uploads!

@Sup3rSaiy3n

6 жыл бұрын

Kai Wen Thank you so much Kai. I really wanted to cover the DeathGuard releases too but oh well, maybe next time. 😊

@eoinmccormack1940

6 жыл бұрын

Seriously dude... you do a similar amount of work for the DG release so. Super has a space marine chapter, can't use the DG with them.

@eoinmccormack1940

6 жыл бұрын

No. He said he isn't in a position to do so. He wanted to primaris more. I don't care if you want to play 8th, shag it or never touch it. I just don't think it's fair to give the guy stick over the amount of effort he put in to something. If you want to see the models, get them yourself or find some other channel that will review them. Glad you've a game you actually play but 8th is good gas to be fair.

This video is 2 years old but all of your views on the prices etc are still spot on

Nice review mate, I'm a fan of the Primaris, working through Dark Imperium now, the Aggressors will be my next addition definitely, I prefer them to the Centurians. But I do agree about the issue of high prices, £35 for 10 as a lot!

I do think (and hope) we'll see boxes for new sculpted Captain in Gravis Armour, Ancient and Lieutenants. The Repulsor kit is perfect for a different varient option down the road also

taller, bigger, more expensive...doesnt sound like GW at all!Hahahahaha. Great job mate

I was 100% priced out of this hobby as a kid, at 10 years old I would spend entire days at GW chatting to the guys there, watching games, learning to paint minis, I even started joining the local painting competitions whenever I got a model, but ended up having to ditch it because I couldn't afford anything there and started feeling really self-conscious about it, it made me pretty depressed in my early teens because I had something I was really passionate and invested in but couldn't actually take part in it. I'm getting back into the hobby now at 25 and its not been easy; paints, brushed, minis etc. it all adds up. I've bought a squad of intercessors, some Kurnoth hunters and the paints to paint them "properly" and its easily broken £200.... for 1 squad of marines, 1 team of kurnoth hunters and some paints and brushes. as far as I remember WH has had a reputation for being an expensive hobby, and I know several of my friends who never looked into it because of this.

Love your vids

I personally think the Repulsor tank is just a variation of the Anit-Grav Land Raiders that the Dark Angels Legion had during the Great Crusade. Maybe Cawl found the specs on Mars??

Awesome army I’m building mine and love !!! Costs aside it brings me tooooo much joy

Love the black and gold color scheme hoping that one day I can pick some of the lads up

For the reivers I had not a single problem having 10 totally different poses with blades and bolt guns, you just don't have to follow the rules to build em different.

Random tip for anyone watching this in 2020: If you buy a box of intercessors and a box of hellblasters, there is enough extra guns in the intercessor kit to just make 20 intercessors, with more varied poses (assuming you don't actually want hellblasters, as they're not very good rules wise). Two of them will need to have the grenade launcher (which is nice option to have anyway) and you'll have to use a mix of bolt rifle types as there'll only be enough attachment bits for a max of 10 each kind (I'd go with a mix of normal and auto bolt rifles, if you wanted all normal bolt rifles then stalker bolt rifle attachments look pretty similar anyway).

@Ed-ss1uh

3 жыл бұрын

Good tip

“You’ve painted them over two days....” Meanwhile I’m staring at hundreds of hours of painting I never finished. By the emperor why?! Why does this plastic crack torment me so?!

@deez420nuts69

4 жыл бұрын

Bro tell me about it. I play Dark Angels and I give them a super badass scheme, and it takes me 2-3 hours per tac Marine. It's a fucking nightmare, but they look fucking amazing.

I'd never replace my army, these would be added to it. I've only got the Dark Imperium set, can't justify it yet

I enjoy 40k for the modeling, and not being able to customize them is a huge drawback for me. I did get a Redemptor bc I wanted to put it with Leviathan legs, but otherwise I'm not interested other than the anniversary releases. I think the sculpts are really nice, but so are my DW where I have an almost infinite number of possibilities.

Hey dude love the videos. Have any of your thoughts changed about any of these models? In general not just primaris.

@Sup3rSaiy3n

5 жыл бұрын

Jay J Still really like them. Wish they had expanded the range but I’m pleased they got a super heavy tank. Just waiting on their flyer.

i like the 30 year anniversary veteran sergeant, hes like an aspiring captain

So what do you think of using the Intercessors with the Stalker rifle? Worth it or no? And How do you feel about the Reivers? I think they need more AP. With only a -1 on their bolt pistol won't they struggle against any heavily armored opponent in CC? As for the Aggressors they only have AP on their gauntlets. It seems like the Primaris should be great at mowing down horde armies but I wonder about using an all Primaris force against heavier targets. Hellblasters are of course great at that but every batrep I have seen with them the enemy murders them immediately. And without them the Primaris lack a lot of anti-armor. Anyway, just my thoughts on an all Primaris force.

Regarding the flash sale, I think these releases are specifically Easy Mode for newbies. I'm fully expecting more poseable kits in 6 months to a year, when they also release a heavy weapon toting squad to replace the Devastator squad.

isnt there going to be more primaris space marine models? and im not talking about chapter variants im talking about like a new attack bike etc etc etc.

A friend of mine was really keen on getting into collecting space marines after looking through my stuff, then as Primaris started to come out he really got into the idea... Then he saw a single figure for £20 odd and never looked again. Shame really.. :/ but helping him search ebay for cheaper Primaris trying to get him into it got me a tyranid swarm set for £60 and a dark eldar wych cult shardstorm for £50! both brand new! every cloud an' all that! :D :D

@Sup3rSaiy3n

6 жыл бұрын

Inverted Sweet! You can also grab a good bargain on the eBay I guess and the models rarely go out of fashion.

Just been to the GW webstore, and I see thgat the predator is " sold out online " and " No longer available ". Dunno whether this means a new model for it is coming out, or if they are deleting it altogether ( my money's an a new model, but I've been wrong before ). So... Primaris ( only ) Predator variant on it's way ?

Hey Sup3r, are you going to the Warhammer 40,000 open day in November? I'm wondering if that's when Forgeworld will do a reveal and early release of the Primaris super heavy. Another great video, cheers.

@Sup3rSaiy3n

6 жыл бұрын

D ST Yeah they could do. I'd love to go.

@dst5596

6 жыл бұрын

I'm sorely tempted although not sure if it'll be worth it so soon after the Forgeworld open day as I don't normally get the early release miniatures. Might go on the Sunday to see the Golden demon stuff. Can't quite figure out why the tickets are £12.32 rather than £12.50, lol.

Do you think they'll update the primaris not fitting into land raiders?

Well Warhammer ether fantasy or 40k have been expensive AF here in the States ether way so price doesn't really bother me. I'm still paying 65 USD for a dreadnought and 34 USD for a Rhino. What's a five dollar increase from the base price anyways? I do like the new scale and some of the armors and the models aren't that bad ether. My only question is if this new scale is only for the primaris or all 8th edition models? I've see gray knights about the same scale of the primaris,but I only have the Dark Imperium box set and all my 5th edition models. So I've got no clue.

100% agree mate shit here in Aus aswell.

very niiiiceeee cannonfodder for a bunch of PLAGUEBURST CRAWLERS)))))

@hotgamerboy6240

5 жыл бұрын

HERESY

Repulsor has a ton of weapons. Those weapons and their ammunition take up space in the rig. Transports are transports because they aren't filling up the vehicle with firepower. It's essentially a light tank. Maybe the rule should be space marines can ride ON the vehicle?

The dreadnought is my spirit animal.

Great looking range of figures but I'm not liking the mono-pose design and the price puts me off plus I have a lot of projects on my workbench already, good luck, GW.

I just started my third Space marine Chapter, Imperial Fists, using Primaris models ;)

I would personally buy two redemptor dreads intstead of a repulsor. While the repulsor is a faster way to carry your troops across the table two redemptor can easily clear a path to safely move your marines.

The main thing with the pricing of the Primaris range I'd say they are universally £5 too expensive. Literally the reason I'm only buying, at most four kits, not counting Dark Imperium. Two intercessor kits, captain, dreadnought. Then I'm going to ignore the range, no matter how much I love the aggressors. A shame really, but the range is just far too expensive compared to my main army, AdMech. £22.50 for a captain or £23.50 for a box of Skitarii Rangers/Vanguard. Seems a clear choice for me. A shame really as I love pretty much all the models, except the repulsor turret. As for the transport rules issue, I'd treat is as such: primaris can go in everything, except for rhino/razorbacks, which only reivers can ride in taking up 2 slots each.

i think GW went completely the wrong way with pricing because if they priced the models alot lower so they had less profit on them they would sell more, attract new people and also would make people that usually buy all their armies on Ebay or second hand more likely to buy new. per model they would make less but over all they would sell a lot more

@Warhamer116

5 жыл бұрын

10% decrease in price requires doubling of sales to compensate in order for revenue to stay unchanged, and that is if you can supply the increased demand. It's sort of why Tesla is struggling to deliver their cars. It is also why GW rather sells fewer models for higher price than more models for lower prices- easier to manufacture, supply and deliver and nets comparatively more. Raw economics are cruel and unfeeling- and the only way for consumers to win against it is to boycott companies that lose vision of the more humane aspects of their trade as it is the only way consumers can truly deliver a message. I've gone from GW minis to alternative producer minis or even manufacturing my own through 3d-prints (hint, reprap is cheaper than a 10 man tactical squad box and makes pretty much all tanks to fairly good degree of detail) and plasticard templates. Are they equal in detail to GW minis? Not really, but as long as GW keeps pricing themselves out of sensible price ranges, they'll do. Of course I'm just one amongst the masses, but masses are composed of individuals as well...

My dad paid a few grand for a 4 stroke engine once as he flies RC planes with his pals during the summer months. Don't get me started on the money he spends on turbine jets for jet aircraft. Lol. I can justify spending the money on hobby stuff if he can afford to spend that on a small engine for a model plane. All hobbies are expensive. I think you get more enjoyment out of GW than a computer game. By the time you build and paint the models, you can sit back and say I did that, they'll last you longer as well than a game, you can reuse them on table top games as well. Once you complete a video game, you trade it in. I love GW, it's a great sociable hobby I find. Great looking army you have there.

@manga3040

6 жыл бұрын

Steven Holt I agree 100%. My best friend and I each have a son and we are excited to pass on the hobby.

@Parabueto

6 жыл бұрын

I'm just getting into RC aviation, starting out with a foam chuck glider conversion to rc, wouldn't want to crash something expensive :-p close to the bits for that in my room is a small model sub that I've sunk (pun unintended) over £1500 into at this point and it still isn't working properly after two years of on and off tinkering so by that yardstick the new primaris army is a steal :D

@E40kGeek_Tactical

6 жыл бұрын

Couldn't agree more, my father is into RC planes just like your father and he has spent much more than I ever have on 40k. My friends are into offroading and the parts for their trucks are insanely expensive whenever something breaks. In comparison to those two hobbies 40k isn't too bad especially if ypu know where to shop. 40k is a great hobby, weather it be playing the game or the modeling aspect..or both.

Simply because Games Workshop releases a new model doesn't mean that as a gamer/collector you have to run out and buy it! Collect your models at the rate that you can assemble and paint them for display or for the tabletop in game. The idea that a player needs to drop over £400 on an army immediately is ridiculous. I think it sends the wrong message to would be new players. My motivation to paint another unit is that then I can reward myself with the purchase of the next unit I want. I collect and paint two 40K armies and I build scenery/terrain using this process.

@crocgator3693

4 жыл бұрын

I agree with you. People always just rush out and buy new models when they are released and then complain about the prices. At least save up your money first and then buy that newly released model. Or finish painting the models you currently have.

Does anyone know of any reliable websites which I can buy 40k miniatures from. I live in Australia and the prices here are bordering unreasonable, $100 for a 10 man squad of Primaris Space Marines (not including paint and other equipment). Any advise would be appreciated.

I got one of everything except the repulsor and have no regrets. I just don't like Space Marine tanks, but instead, I think I'm getting one more Redemptor Dread, so I have one of each weapon.

I wanted to start with 40k for years but unfortunately no one is playing around me in my shitty country and as you mentioned the prices i see why. To start board games (even dnd) you need time, load of money for accessories, paints, kits. Which was easy for me as tank and aircraft builder. I offered few friends help with painting and even printing them minies on my new resin printer, no change at all.

Fair play for covering it all Super, serious amount of work. I agree that the prices are steep, but the models in the 10 man squads are far superior to the older sculpts. I think they're a nice looking bunch, but it's going to be hard for youngsters to get in to the hobby now. Maybe that's what they're after is an older playerbase, but then some of the more cartoon-y elements they've been using recently is a bit weird. Also, the whole transport rules thing is bullshit. In my head, Rhinos are a no-go for primaris, but the land raider/flyers can.

@Sup3rSaiy3n

6 жыл бұрын

Eoin McCormack couldn't agree more. Thank you for leaving a comment.

@bill9163

6 жыл бұрын

Eoin McCormack also the primarch of the ultramarines cannot fit in any vehicle!! How did he ever get around places, I think his boots were made for walking 😅

@hakeera1908

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah, Primaris should be able to take anything except rhinos, even drop pods, and especially Land Raiders and the Storm Raven. As for Guilliman, honestly if you take him off that huge base, G-man himself isn't that much bigger than a Primaris, pretty sure he could fit in a Storm Raven(definitely a Stormbird or Thunderhawk), count as like 5-6 models, but physically he should be able to fit.

@eoinmccormack1940

6 жыл бұрын

Didn't know that about the big g-man. Isn't there a bit in one of the books where he's bopping around in a land raider? He's hardly bigger than a dreadnaught and they fit in a stormraven

@hakeera1908

6 жыл бұрын

well to be fair the Stormraven carries a dreadnought in the rear grapples, it's not actually inside of it. But yeah he definitely has rode in vehicles before, pretty sure the Primarchs can enter vehicles in 30k rules, don't know 100% though since I don't play 30k. But yeah if a Stormraven can carry 3 centurions, it can definitely carry G-man.

Please do an update with the new Dreadnought like thingy and the new executioner coming soon

@Sup3rSaiy3n

4 жыл бұрын

Trickish-spark39 Of course! Coming soon.

You would think they would come out with new models or bit sets for all the lines to boost sales everywhere. Cadians REALLY need more bits for support weapons and melee... As it is all the older molds are pure profit for them.

30 yrs from now all your wafflin will be for nowt, life evolves forward at a pace and so do models im afraid if there wasnt any new types you wouldn't be chuffed, everybody is good at sayin what should be in the box and this model should be yaddy yaddy ya! Do you know how much tooling costs for plastic injection models, consider yourselves lucky chaps as model railway fans are promised this n that n it takes years for them to be manufactured, GW in my eyes are fucking wonderful bringing you something new every week, tooling costs upwards of £1.000.000 even for a single model n they have to recoup that outlay to make a profit, if you dont like the price nobodys putting your arm up your back to buy them, its your choice I know id rather buy a Ferrari than a kia......look into how the toolings made, 50 yrs ago it was a man with a chisel n banana wood that carved the models out, so stop whinging about price and you of all people have a hard neck to moan about it as you buy everything there is whith a GW or FW badge on it....

What vehicles can intercessors use?

I try to avoid paying for primaris non-monopose because they are too dam expensive. 45€ for 10 Intercessors or Hellblaster, etc. It's insane. I bought Dark Imperium and Know no Fear with a friend so i spent 76€ and that could cost me 200€ (only couting Inceptors, intercessor and Hellblasters) so I saved (more than) 124€. I'm sorry but I feel that they want to cheat me.

Next thing u know only primaris marines will be allowed in the redemptor dreadnought, oh wait...

GW have lost an official sale of a Repulsor. I'd want to use it for my Inquisition force. But they aren't allowed to be carried. Of course house rules ;-)

@Mikey__R

6 жыл бұрын

Steve Foster Inquisitors can ride in any Imperial transport. Check page 117 of Index: Imperium 2.

@foznoth

6 жыл бұрын

Mikey R Yep, they can change or ignore Faction Keywords, but not the other ones. It means they can ignore Chapter but not the Primaris keyword.

@Mikey__R

6 жыл бұрын

Steve Foster Doh!

@Mikey__R

6 жыл бұрын

Steve Foster I've not seen the new Codex, can the Replusor only carry troops with the Primaris keyword?

@foznoth

6 жыл бұрын

Mikey R Yep, currently Repulsors are limited to Primaris Infantry. Inquisitors can ignore Faction keywords, so can only cancel the keyword.

Just got back into this hobby "after 30 years away" - 14 characters and an Redemptor Dreadnought about 25 paints gave me the price - "Bank Card Cried" - £170.00 = Damn' those prices have gone through the roof..... LOL 🍻🍻🍻🍻😊

Honestly, been tempted to get a Chinese recast of certain units, love GW. But I honestly feel sour after buying guilliman recently as he doesn't come on his own!!! What a gimmick to keep the price high, I could get a good sized vehicle kit for the same, and there's far more parts / transfers weapon options etc etc, Bought the new codex and guilliman and you barely get change from 200!!!!

@theemperor-wh40k18

5 жыл бұрын

B?

throw away the boxes? Give them to a new player so they can cut the pictures out on the back and stick them upright on cut out round cardboard bases. They get a whole fully coloured army for just some hobby crafting time!

See ya at the game workshop store !

I brought the Dreadnought for my black templars mini marines as it fits straight in my army but didn't buy the Repulsor as It can't transport my infantry and I have no interest in the primaris infantry.

The drivers can smell the betrayal on the primaris. And they don't want that stank in their vehicles.

Release fatigue eh @Sup3rSaiy3n?

They should have just revamped and resized the existing space marine lines and updated their chronically underpowered stats. No need to change the lore, and inventing entirely new space marine units was a cash grab. I'll be fielding my primaris in tactical, assault, devastator and terminator squads!

Are they any way to convert primaris squad with chainsword and bolt pistol?

@Sup3rSaiy3n

6 жыл бұрын

Fabien MORGAN you could cut hands off of bolt rifles but even then the pistols and chainswords would look small.

GW now reached the point where their products have the same price of Forge World models, but with one big problem. GWs models are not Premium. Yes the detail is nice, but compared to FW or other Premium Companies? Far from that level. I can not imagine that anyone with experience would buy GW Models if he could buy an FW equivalent.

@mytriex1720

5 жыл бұрын

I buy GW models, but for 21% off ;) Because I dont like FW, because of..Resin...oh and they have even more higher prices today ^^

@smegg9676

5 жыл бұрын

GW's artistic style is top notch. FW is pretty meh in that department. This is the main reason why i've never had an interest in FW products. IMO GW's stuff is *THE* premium product line in the mini market. I think the general consensus amongst the community is that GW's stuff is top notch. Their prices hurt tho.

update?

For my house rules any space marine can fit in any transport

The transport constriction is the single most frustrating thing about the whole Primaris ordeal, game-wise. It really does ruin some of the fun. I love a lot of the details, but I also think there are too many of them. The amount of grenades, panels, belts, little packs and other details the Reivers have drives me nuts when painting. It's a first world complaint, but painting the mini marines was a lot more satisfying compared to the effort put into them. Overall it's a good thing, I'm glad the Primaris came about and I'm even more glad that they're trying to fix the lore.

Looking at the price of this stuff, its nearly the same cost as getting into HH. If you take the money that someone would spend on this you could probably get both the HH box sets and something from forgeworld. Now that to me is mad :/

@andy7666

6 жыл бұрын

True. I've been out of the hobby for many years and thinking of getting back into it, its just the eye watering prices that are putting me off - the Horus Heresy sets are looking very good for what they are though, two VERY good starter sets.

To be perfectly honest I think a small custodian force would be far better choice than a Primarus force. Considering they can use land raiders and have similar stats, though the weapons are more limited I feel like they'd work better with a space marine army.

Hellooo and welcome :)

It just doesn't make sense imposing transport restrictions. I know they did it to try and 'push' sales for people collecting Primaris armies however as you said I don't believe that without the restrictions they would have sold less, in fact quite the opposite IMO. GW have been really on the ball so far this year IMO, and have been trying hard to do better however this is reminiscent of their past, not all habits die easily I guess. It doesn't bother me enough to not get the kits as I'm a collector primarily and the units I'm using in game don't need a transport however I fully understand why people were pissed and it felt like a bit of a low blow. I think the models are really very nice, I actually prefer Primaris to normal marines. I think they look better and are nicer to paint too. The prices are a little on the high side (except the redemptor which I think is good value), the single models are too pricey but the rest of the range is ok. Interesting thing, in 7th edition a 1500pt army from GW would cost around £400. I found this across 7-8 armies I priced up. Haven't done it for 8th yet but maybe I should and see where a primaris list fits. Maybe a video there for you Sup3r :p. A good honest review which is what we need more of. Good job as always!

@Sup3rSaiy3n

6 жыл бұрын

A pleasure to read. Thank you so much for your comment and the suggestion and kind words.

Ehhhhhh... When a repulser tank is $140 or a single miniature is $60... a group of 3 aggressors is $92. Yuck

@heppidonald6551

5 жыл бұрын

@Dylan Koch Not in Australia.

@darkstorminc

5 жыл бұрын

Aussies get raped with that spikey pineapple by GW.

@richardkocksworthy8423

4 жыл бұрын

Not even metal mini!

I'm just wondering what chapter you play as I'm a ...dark angel

@redsampler2017

4 жыл бұрын

black consuls is his chapter. and im a dark angel/salamanders successor chapter. called CORE(yeah heresy i know, but i fight the good fight).;-)

I'm refusing to buy the pulser tank for that reason. Love the rest of the range other then the chaplain

3:45 And GW rules guys tried to say that they don't make gimmicy rules to try and sell models - they were referencing the kharadron overlords from AoS, I think it was the enginriggers only having 1 special weapon type per box but the rules said the squad could take 4 of each. They totally make rules to try and sell models. Maybe in the kharadron overlords it was a legit mistake because they want the box contents to match the rules.

Towlla.. Bigga.. moe-wa EXxpen-sive! So Land Raider still cannot carry the new 8th edition Primaris units? WTF? Why?

i like what they're doing in making the units inflexible on their weapon options. I would however like to see them add some form of anti-vehicle squad. As of now the only real anti-vehicle they have would be the tank or over charging the plasma incinerators, which can work but at great risk to the expensive weapon wielder. I know that there is nothing stopping you from including a regular space marine dev squad....but if you're looking for primaris exclusive force, facing heavy vehicles could be a problem.

100% agree. I play with family and friends of all ages and we all agree the Primaris transport rule is rubbish and just class Primaris as terminators and Gravis equipped as Centurions. Super heavy Primaris tank, tell me more! I was putting some money to one side for a Mastodon so timing could be spot on.!

@Sup3rSaiy3n

6 жыл бұрын

Matt Surrey I think it might be worth keeping that money to one side for the moment. I haven't got any other details on it other than they've finished it. Should be out in the next couple of months I guess. Maybe for the November FW event. Although the Mastodon is a fantastic model the Primaris will be less transport focussed.

@mattsurrey6138

6 жыл бұрын

Cheers Super. Will be trying to head to the Nov event anyway so guess if we dont know before, we will find out then. I was looking for a big centerpiece for my army but couldn't really justify the Thunderhawk. Hopefully its priced between the 2.

Price of this release is super steep. I also make model boats, another famously expensive hobby but for the price of one box of intercessors I could buy a six channel programmable transmitter or almost everything to make a RC slope soaring glider, which is nuts.

Primaris Rhino and Primaris Land Raider

Hey can anyone of you nice peeps give me some imput on how to expand my Ultramarine force? I got a Tactical Squad, a Scout Squad, a Cap'n, Tigurius, 5 Man Heavy Plasma Hellblaster & 5 Man Assault Plasma Hellblaster, a Veteran Assault with jetpacks and a redemptor. I have started recently and have thus far just bought units i thought could be useful and look cool xp. I have had a few games against eldar and one against tyranids and I'm not sure if I#m bad or my army just ain't that good. Thanks in advance :)

@ethanphilpot7643

6 жыл бұрын

Get 2 or 3 Rhinos. They are the single most practical model that the space marines have. Not only that but they even come with bits to make razorbacks which can be extremely deadly

Apart from maybe the Dreadnought & Hell Blasters, think they look crap - Much prefer the Devastators, Tactical, and Terminator squads....

Even the gaming hobby is expensive, console gaming is the cheaper end of the spectrum as you don't have to keep upgrading the parts like a PC. But even then a console upon release does cost a fair bit, then on top of that you add the price of the games, extra controllers and headset etc. Then you have games that are half complete upon release which are then patched up with pricey DLC

@gozewstuffnthings5837

6 жыл бұрын

You don't need to keep upgrading pc parts unless you buy budget parts.

today they dropped the combat squad boxes

@lund5869

6 жыл бұрын

West Side what??!

@MurderHoboRPG

6 жыл бұрын

Brad Lund theyre on triplehelixwargames preorder for 15 pound per combat squad

The Dread, is not Primaris, check in the codex. Just the name Primaris!

@Sup3rSaiy3n

6 жыл бұрын

www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Space-Marines-Primaris-Redemptor-Dreadnought I rest my case.

@jocebar6451

6 жыл бұрын

Yes but in the codex i ad no the key word primaris!!!

@Sup3rSaiy3n

6 жыл бұрын

Joce Bar oh right lol

Primaris is a big NO for me. Having smurfs running around giant people will look odd

@Sup3rSaiy3n

6 жыл бұрын

Sunshine Starcraft i dare you to say that yo Guillimans face.

@Warhamer116

5 жыл бұрын

There aren't tens of thousands of Primarch's running around the galaxy, accompanying other marines at 1:2 ratio though.

I have killed 10 of Primaris Marines by 15 tac Marines in fight phase

Transporter troble id say.

I swear the land raider used to be 80 to 85 pounds

@Sup3rSaiy3n

6 жыл бұрын

Sam Peat 🤨 when first released it was £30

@thesenate957

6 жыл бұрын

I never knew that.

You throw the boxes away? Dude that's where the money is!!! The printing cost is why the things are so expensive!!!

@Sup3rSaiy3n

4 жыл бұрын

Richard Kocksworthy I believe the highest cost is the metal moulds they use to punch out the sprues. Probably over £100,000 each.

The point about value (video games vs space marines) was the opposite of what you suggested imo. Parent buys 10 marines. Built and painted in a week. Child wants more already. Video games these days, especially fortnite as it's free and addictive as hell, will kill far more time and far less money than an interest in building warhammer armies.

@Sup3rSaiy3n

6 жыл бұрын

TheGlobuleReturns I disagree. No one will be playing Fortnite in 20 years time. However space marines will still be around and playable. Not all games are free. The majority cost money and now include micro transactions, even single player ones. Also you’d have to include the price of an ipad/phone, console or PC. I’m an avid video gamer with hundreds of videos games and Warhammer enthusiast. Technology improves much faster than model soldiers. I cannot play the majority of my games from 15 years ago because of this, whereas I can still use the models. I do understand your point about short term value in not paying for specific games and the amount of time kids can sink into them. On top of that it’s social interaction via a headset. Imo I don’t think it’s right to encourage such a thing or as a substitute for parenting.

@TheGlobuleReturns

6 жыл бұрын

Let's be honest.. Anyone who still plays with their space marines 15 years later, has probably made a vast number of additions to their collection since. I've never heard of anyone who buys one army and ignores every subsequent release from GW, while also remaining interested in the hobby. Also, games from 15 years ago to me are single player games that just require a pc to download again, but that's a digression. The main comparison there is that games age much in the same way that warhammer models do. When we load up an old game for some nostalgic goodness it's almost impossible not be disappointed and think 'wow, how times have changed'. A similar feeling is often applied to old models. They may have great sentimental value, but with newer ones coming out, there is a period where they begin to look stale and out dated. Not just in terms of looks but in terms of fashion (I know, not a term widely associateed with Warhammer, but you see the implication). I'm not sure you disagee on the main point. I'm not saying space marines don't have sentimental value, re-sell value, or unlimited uses in games on the board. It's more that 1 £45 video game doesn't equal £45 worth of miniatures/paintsbooks etc. To get a solid army and paints you're easily talking more than the price of a console. You get more out of the console for the money, in regards to the amount you have to spend to get the most out of each past time. I'm saying the fact that children often want more and more once they're bored with something, combined with the addictive nature of warhammer collecting, means they will cost parents more over time than modern day video games. Fortnite may well be gone in 20 years, but by that time the kids will have grown up. I do believe, however, that Fortnite will be around for many years. The micro transactions are optional, and parents with tight budgets may not wish to shell out money for uneccessary add ons to a game. Despite this I'm sure most kids do end up purchasing micro transactions. I certainly do. Their is no optional aspect to warhammer if you're heavily into it. The price of the console (around £200 nowadays), is a one time purchase that should last for years. More and more games coming out are free to play. Whereas no aspect of collecting warhammer will ever be free. The game itself is free, as with many video games, but warhammers 'console' is games workshop, which is an ever changing and growing collection of miniatures, paints, books etc. Don't get me wrong. I often argue that Warhammer is the perfect hobby for young people to get into today. Kids don't read anymore, other than social media feeds. I think that has strongly stunted literary acumen amounst the younger generations. Many of their attention spans are so poor that they can barely get to the end of a movie never mind a book! If they can read and enjoy reading, they will greatly increase their chances to excel far and above their classmates when it comes to proccessing information on paper. The social intereaction that warhammer can offer is great too. I do feel that online chat can be a great way to stay connected with friends, and even meet new people, but I agree it can be a double edged sword when it's treated as a replacement rather than a supplement. The instant gratifcation and quick dopamine releases that kids crave nowadays can be well supressed via the painting element of the hobby. Working towards something, and not expecting an instant or easy reward for little to no effort, is something I feel many kids (and even young adults like myself, 22) struggle with too. I'm sure training a young mind to enjoy and appreciate the value of hard work can be a massive help to their studies, and even their overall approach to life. I just felt that tiny little bit of your video could have been put differently is all. The money/value argument is better put when it refers to the opportunity cost i.e all the things that the hobby can potentially do away with, the worst of these being things like drug use and spending all your money on drink (if you're into Warhammer, you aren't likely to have the money required to be binge drinker haha). The video game argument doesn't seem to work when it refers just to money saving and time investment. The time frame is the main reason for this. If you're talking about 15 years of warhammer and gaming vs 15 years of only video gaming I'd say the biggest 'savings' will be for your mind and progress with life, rather than money. I believe this to be the best way to sell the hobby to parents and/or the kids who might be thinking about getting into it. Just my 2 cents.

@Sup3rSaiy3n

6 жыл бұрын

TheGlobuleReturns When people start to quote me and use it in their argument I totally switch off, as it gives the impression of intent to defame. Thanks for watching and for the comments.

@TheGlobuleReturns

6 жыл бұрын

Not at all. It was simply to provide context for the opening reply. The argument is still as valid or invalid with or without the quotation, is it not? No attempts to defame. Are you implying that I was patronising you and assuming you wouldn't understand the specific part of your comment I was eplying to? This wasn't my intent. In fact, I'll edit the reply, the quote isn't even needed. The reply had one quotation, and that was at the very start. There was absolutely no malice intended in my comment. I'm just giving my opinion. It disheartens me that you would brush it off so harshly simply for the use of quotations for context. The way online communications work means that it's not always obvious to see which part of the original comment each part of the reply is referring to. With the risk of sounding even more patronising, I'm actually going to assume you saw how long the reply was and quickly came up with an excuse to dodge having to deal with it. Fair enough, if that's the case. Quoting has nothing to do with defaming (if it isn't out of context and/or paraphrased to imply something different to it's original meaning), because the only one doing the defaming is the original speaker. If you assume your own quote is defamation, you are insulting yourself. It's how the quote is dealt with, that decides if is it or isn't defamation. You can't possibly ever know if you 'switch off' as soon as you see your own words..

@crocgator3693

4 жыл бұрын

TheGlobuleReturns 1. 40k isn't only for kids, and a lot of kids these days now find money buy doing things such as mowing lawns for their neighbors and other jobs instead of begging their parents to buy them stuff. 2. You can't judge another person's hobby and expect them to immediately switch to the one you think is better. People enjoy what they want to enjoy, and not what you think they should enjoy.

During watching this video and people complaining prices etc...gotta say GW princes "that" bad if taking for comparison ice hockey hobby, some people might spend 1000-3000e here for a year for kid/teenager to play hockey and not everyone become next Wayne Gretzky or Teemu Selänne that does not have it becoming superstar. So i can guarantee could spend less in year for this hobby then ice hockey. And for final every hobby is expensive, some are just much more then others.

gw have ruined my own chapter with their prices of the inceptors being £30 for just 3...not happy

@UnleashdaBarista

6 жыл бұрын

Which chapter you running?

@maukka1545

6 жыл бұрын

Don't buy the primaris

That's the biggest thing GW has done, They are coming out with stuff like Primaris that are "new better and cooler" then your normal marines. All the stuff you said is true and closing the door on the rest of the marine line is a very very dumb move. Its forcing the hand of the consumer to choose, and with the prices going up on these new marine is just dumb! Its very sad that a company can bone the people that want to buy and play this game. Its so expensive that i can see the sales dropping. The local store here in town is always empty unless people are playing a game. But were not the only ones that say the price is to high for what you really get. Price per ounce of plastic to shelf price. This is one reason why China recast is on the up and up. Hate saying that but you can't even go on ebay anymore with out thinking is this recast or true GW or true FW.

and nothig paint, very good, leave fall ur money

the repulsor can not carry normal space marines, oh well is a game between two players , just ask if you can change the rule, is no like that will detroy de balance of the games, unless you are playing with a tryhard, ps most of the kid dont play this game unless his parents do, no outsider will ever buy set of this quite obscure game( most of the people dont now that this even exist) over a video game the main problem is that the princing is atificial, is due to stats, well what if i dont give a dam about them, i just want the models, why a normie should pay a premium for a figure that has the same amount of manterial than other that is cheaper.

The deesdnot id want

Full range until they release the fw super heavy :D

@Sup3rSaiy3n

6 жыл бұрын

Schwills or the super heavy flyer 😉

@schwills413

6 жыл бұрын

Can't wait. My imperial fists will make it into a flying fortress! :D

They write great rules for their new models, you have to have them, next edition they get nurfed. The make new models with new rules that will own your old army. You have to buy the new stuff to remain competitive, and the cycle continues. "The rules are great (for this model) so (they are justified in) it costing more". Shut up and take my money lol

@theemperor-wh40k18

5 жыл бұрын

James Bigglesworth, I just buy the models for the models themselves, I don't really care a lot about the competitiveness of them cuz I play only with my mates.

£22.50 for one fucking model? What?!

#8:06 HERESY those are agressors XD

Generally I agree with you a whole lot but I've come to the resolution that Warhammer is just an expensive hobby and that if I want to be a part of it , I'll have to bear the brunt of their extortionate prices and enjoy it as much as I can while it lasts and while my wallet can sustain such a horrific bashing.

I would buy more than 2 Repulsors if they could transport mini marines too, But as it stand i don't need more than 2 for my Primaris, So good job GW, your dumb rules have actually made you lose sales. I don't know anyone planning on getting more than 1-2.

I refused to buy a Repulsor because I saw the greedy strong handing with the rules. I vote with my wallet.