Thank you for your opinion. I am very interested to see the outcome and you new opinion after any mods being done. Which Husky did you mention that you liked better and did you do a review of it?

@timberandtools

5 ай бұрын

I think I mentioned the Stihl 250. Maybe it was the 440 husky (I ported one and have a video on the channel) I mentioned I don’t remember haha. I like the 250 best for an under 60cc chainsaw.

I have had a number of 170s and 180s, and two 171s. I love the 171 for what it is- good anti vibe, light, little easier to work on than the 170s, bigger engine and more power. Does the 182 type have a cat in the muffler? prying that junk out and opening up the muffler sure wakes up an Echo 450 or Domar makita 4300, perhaps it might be similar.

@timberandtools

3 ай бұрын

No cat just super small holes ! Muffler mods always help any saw made in the last 20-30 years haha

how many ounces per gallon would your 42:1 mix be?

@timberandtools

2 ай бұрын

5 gal mix oil to 4.2 gallons of fuel or 2.1 gallons to a 2.5 mix oil jug

The old saws like the 170 and 180 and 181 CBE are flying off the shelves like hotcakes now

@timberandtools

5 ай бұрын

Guaranteed they are! This saw finally broken in I would say is comparable to the 180 for power but quite a lot heavier !!!! Which is my whole problem with it.

@jonnysnipes3123

4 ай бұрын

yup i bought two 170s just to hold onto as backups because those new models are legit dog crap

@timberandtools

4 ай бұрын

@@jonnysnipes3123 definitely not a step in a better direction

@georgedavall9449

4 ай бұрын

Love this comment

@josiasb1473

3 ай бұрын

​@@timberandtoolspeso de uma Ms 250. Comprei mais Ms 170, devido ser mais leve, está na caixa ainda nem funcionei.

I just got a ms180 as a early christmas gift and i was playing with it today for first time and im actually really impressed with it.. this is coming from some one with a 550xp mk2,372 o.e, husq 257 and a old practica 61. Its kinda brilliant for a little 30cc toy saw! I had a ms251 i muffler modded and liked that saw alot too but i sold it for who knows why

@timberandtools

7 ай бұрын

Yeah the ms 170/180 really suprised me too! Light and powerful for what it is. !! 550 and 372 are some of the best small husky’s

@georgedavall9449

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, I have the same 180, and I just got it out to clear up a small tree that fell across the driveway. It hadn’t been run in quite awhile, as its primary duty is light imbuing/ pruning, etc. It took about 7-9 pulls and once warmed up, ran well. These little saws love to smoke. My old Husky 345 only took 3 pulls to start, after sitting for quite awhile. Two different saws of course. I still kick myself I didnt pick up a one time buy of a 550xp Mk2, couple years ago, for $550.00, from the Stihl dealer. Beautiful saw as You know. Regrets… Take care

@Sparaco487

4 ай бұрын

@georgedavall9449 you should definitely buy a 550 xp! But ill warn you its a true firewood tree work saw. Its very angry high reving and fast for a 50cc, it punches very well beyond what a normal 50 sized saw is expected to be.. i can bury its 18in bar in hard wood and it just chews its way screaming the whole way threw it, pretty hard to bog it out even with my care free low rakers filed down and it is grabby and jumpy that way. Id say if you can make it fit and careful with your rakers it'll pull a 24 bar

@timberandtools

4 ай бұрын

@Sparaco487 550s rip! I have run them however I prefer my Stihl saws. I have basically all of em haha. My Ported 261 does a really nice job for a small saw as well! Stock 261 saws cut great also 👌🏻👌🏻

@timberandtools

4 ай бұрын

@georgedavall9449 550 is a great one. I have a 350 and a 346 ported husky 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻 love those ones too

Funny review. You use a chainsaw like my dead grandpa. I have never seen anyone try to starting chainsaw with the blade cover on it. I run STIHL 021 for over 25 years. Going to get a new STIHL. Thanks for the review.

@timberandtools

21 күн бұрын

@@chefgiovanni 🤣🤣🤣thanks appreciate it

@mariedolan-nq7zq

14 күн бұрын

U run chainsaws for 25 years and think a chainsaw has a blade

@timberandtools

14 күн бұрын

💥

You would've been better off buying an MS 170 or 180. These new saws, the MS 162, 172 and 182 are made to comply with current emissions standards, which means they are designed to run incredibly lean. I just bought two 170's to put away, since they're phasing them out.

@timberandtools

7 ай бұрын

I have a 170! And yeah they’re choking them out for sure

I know this is about the 180- but I just got my first Sthil 170. I’d only had a couple Ryobi’s and a craftsman before this purchase. The 170 I believe is the smallest, tier 1 model- but over $100 more than any thing else I’d had. Performance, reliability, strength -for its size- I can’t complain. However-user friendly, not so much. For the hype and notoriety of the name, I expected the Cadillac model- base Cadillac, that is. Instead, I find simply cleaning it, keeping the air filter unobstructed, sharpening the chain/ flipping the bar- to be frustrating and a cumbersome chore I’d always looked forward to doing. Putting it back together, tightening the chain, general maintenance-is anything but easy. I find myself asking myself if I shoulda stuck with what I know. The only positive I really have so far is I dint get the goofy looks when I break it out like I did with the Ryobi. Not sure I cared about that enough to have paid an extra $100+ for a name.

@timberandtools

4 ай бұрын

Interesting, I have never noticed a difference on that front! But yeah it’s a home owner saw for sure

I have a 180 it’s been a pretty good saw.i just purchased a 182 c saw it’s a good saw light and powerful for its weight.

@timberandtools

3 ай бұрын

Have you ever run a ms250?

@jefferywilson1840

3 ай бұрын

No but considering getting one.

These things are literally weighed down by European and US emissions standards, the 2mix engines are heavier. You can get a lot more power out of the 180 by removing the baffle on the carburettor and opening up the exhaust as well as raising the needle valve slightly to give it a richer mixture.

@timberandtools

3 ай бұрын

The ms 180 sure perks right up!

Nothing like a new toy, I have just as good of luck with the poulan or echo for cutting misquite wood

@timberandtools

7 ай бұрын

Personally like echo! Usually requires a muffler mod but I do like echo saws overall especially the 2511

I have very little time behind those homeowner saws. From what I experienced, open the exhaust way up and check for any restrictions on the intake. There’s usually some good restrictions built in that need to be removed with a dermal tool. I haven’t messed with the 182 though. How long have you been running Stihl Ultra? I lost 4 engines to it at 50:1 and I know a lot of people that have trashed engines at as low as 32:1. I’ve also known a few people who have run it for years and years without any problems.

@timberandtools

7 ай бұрын

Running up ultra for 7 years at 42-1 and yeah they have it choked out badly

@PurpleNovember

7 ай бұрын

@@timberandtoolsYep and yep! I figured that you’ve been running it a while. The guy that talked me into running Ultra had zero issues.

@timberandtools

7 ай бұрын

@@PurpleNovember what happend with your saws? Just p and c failure???

@PurpleNovember

7 ай бұрын

@@timberandtools yes, piston and cylinder failure due to insufficient lubrication. Three saws and a string trimmer and they all spent extended periods of time under a load at WOT. I run Amsoil Saber now.

@PurpleNovember

7 ай бұрын

@@timberandtools There was one that I used for milling that also had bearing failure.

So my friend which saw is better the 170-180 or the new 182-212 and why ;;

@timberandtools

7 ай бұрын

Well it’s going to be hard to say based on long term durability however I will say though they have their weeks the 170/180 were definitely a decent saw for the money. This platform 162/182 are heavier but I will say I like the adjustable carb and side tensioner from the factory. They each have good and bad points

I thought about buying one, ending up getting a Husky 120 instead, more power

@timberandtools

7 ай бұрын

Yeah these aren’t great unfortunately!

Maybe file a little off the rakers? It didn't seem to be pulling into the cut, from what I saw in the video? Of course with a few more tanks run through, and a muffler mod, maybe it would do better? These Stihl’s are definitely made to a ‘price point.’ Stay safe

@timberandtools

4 ай бұрын

Yeah for sure the chain is swiped a few passes already but this is before I muff modded and it isn’t broken in yet. Saw definitely picked up a fair bit but still dissatisfied about its weight vs power!

Nice saw. I like it. My local stihl mechanic is stoked to get rid of the old 170s and 180s and have a new saw to work on and sell

@timberandtools

7 ай бұрын

It’s really not very good tbh

No break in?

@timberandtools

7 ай бұрын

I break em in like I run em… never had a problem

@jeffrey9102

4 ай бұрын

Stihl breaks them in b4 they are shipped to the stores

@timberandtools

4 ай бұрын

@jeffrey9102 I am curious where you heard this? I don’t believe it is true

@jeffrey9102

4 ай бұрын

It's 100% true, I bought a kombi 94r and I was worried about reving it to high but I called them they told me they test each machine out b4 it hits the stores

@timberandtools

4 ай бұрын

@@jeffrey9102 that cannot be possible I have never seen or smelled gas in any new saw including in carburetor while disassembling new saws before modifying them. Seems impossible for them to remove allllll traces of fuel

Tree huggers invented those flippy caps

@timberandtools

6 ай бұрын

lol yeah I wish it was a flippy screw cap instead !!!

@bing12345678901

6 ай бұрын

@@timberandtools I phucking hate em. I just bought a holzforrma g660 just to see what's up with these Chinese saws. Once I saw the old style caps, I hit "buy now"

@timberandtools

6 ай бұрын

@bing12345678901 yeah the old caps were so much better!!! I have a few farmertec saws. They have been good to me so far especially considering the price.

@bing12345678901

6 ай бұрын

@timberandtools good to hear that. What fuel ratio you run in it?

@timberandtools

6 ай бұрын

@@bing12345678901 same as all my saws 42-1

Every sense I have 70cc saws that’s just about alll I run

@timberandtools

7 ай бұрын

I have 440-462-500 etc. I use the smallest size I can haha. Don’t want to wear out to soon 😅

I went to my local Stihl guy a couple of years ago with the intention of buying an MS170 as I wanted a smaller saw than my 261,462 and 660 and I had already obtained a stihl 14" bar and chain from a friend who didn't need it. He promptly steered me in the direction of an MS 211 and I have to say it has been a great little saw with the 14" bar and never let me down.

@timberandtools

7 ай бұрын

Never ran a 211 but the dealer was doing his job!! Personally I like the 170 after some small modifications 👌🏻 it’s a small little limbing saw!

@rphiliprogers

7 ай бұрын

FYI, Stihl is also replacing the MS 211s with the MS 212 C-BE (EZ Start and Quick Chain Adjust).

@timberandtools

7 ай бұрын

@@rphiliprogers saw that it’s sad !

What more could I possibly say, STIHL RUNS THE YARD. I don't care what you're talking about. 😊👍🏿 #stihlpower #stihlisyourdaddy #stihlrunstheyard

@timberandtools

7 ай бұрын

I LOVE Stihl but the 182 sucks lol

@patrickpoulard24

7 ай бұрын

@@timberandtools You better put RESPECT on Stihl's name. The Gold Standard in the chainsaw World. 👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿 #stihlpower #stihlisyourdaddy #stihlrunstheyard

@timberandtools

7 ай бұрын

@@patrickpoulard24 watch my other videos and you’ll see

У меня штиль 172. Для кровельных работ нам хватает. Для вырубки деревьев используем 372 хуску. Россия.

@timberandtools

7 ай бұрын

Yes 372 is a great saw !

Stick with my 135 mk2 best of the sub 40cc units in my opinion, use mine as my limbing saw for 3 years n hasnt skipped a beat 👍

@timberandtools

4 ай бұрын

Husky makes a good saw no doubt about it 👌🏻

@davt8615

4 ай бұрын

@@timberandtools 100% I've been using a 565 Pro as my main work saw (commercial forestry) and its a cracking all rounder 👍

@timberandtools

4 ай бұрын

@@davt8615 yes they’re very much so work horses!!

Open up muffler hole and get rid of limiter caps and readjust carburetor.

@timberandtools

Ай бұрын

Already done with a video up haha

She needs a non safety 14 inch bar and chain and open the muffler a tad.

@timberandtools

4 ай бұрын

Already muff modded it now, it’ll pull a 16” just a shame the made these so freaking heavy for what it is

Muffler mod it!😂👍👍

@timberandtools

7 ай бұрын

GOTTA happen it’s her only hope 🤣

And you're not impressed because? I somehow missed it in the video. Yeah, it is a homeowner saw, nothing 'pro'.

@timberandtools

7 ай бұрын

It is worse than my 170 as far as power. Maybe it’ll break in better but it isn’t great right now

@t4t4s0l

7 ай бұрын

@@timberandtools Thanks. Usually the saw reaches the peak performace after you ran out a few saw gas tanks. So, i would not judge the power immediately. The 182 should have more raw power so .. anyway, cheers

@timberandtools

7 ай бұрын

@@t4t4s0l yeah it will be better after break in for sure but just wish it wasn’t heavier with the same or so performance 😣

@jonnysnipes3123

4 ай бұрын

the 170 is considered homeowner but it should be classified above that tbh. the 171 is legit a crappy homeowner saw. stihl lower end model saws are no becoming the néw homelite and poulan of chainsaws

@timberandtools

4 ай бұрын

@@jonnysnipes3123 yes sad truth but truth none the less. If a saw can withstand daily use and isn’t underpowered it’s not a homo saw!!

Purchased a 182 today, ran for 5 minutes. Spent half an hour trying restart it. Took it back. Service couldn’t get it to run either. Monday their mechanic looks at it. Lasted 5 minutes!

@timberandtools

3 ай бұрын

Wowwwwwww

Total crap in my opinion. I know that not everyone needs a really nice saw. I get it. But for the same or less money, you have multiple choices of cheap saws that are better. For me, anything south of 40cc should only be top handle territory.

@timberandtools

7 ай бұрын

Yeah totally agree, even with a muffin mod it’s not really impressive in any respect haha.

For anyone looking to buy one of these for home use you'll be better of getting a china saw with a good chain does the same job for a cheaper price just my opinion 🤷

@timberandtools

3 ай бұрын

Yes a pro series clone saw would be money better spent !

Give me a GTA26 any day.

@timberandtools

2 ай бұрын

What’s a gta 26 haha

C'mon man, it's a little home owner saw that might need to be used a half dozen times in it's life . If you wanted a liming saw or something you should have stepped up to a 200 or 210 at least . If you wanted to be a real timber cutter, step up to reality . Get yourself a 362 or bigger made for a man . geeez . lol That saw is made for women . hahaha

@timberandtools

7 ай бұрын

Your funny buddy, I have ported 660s 440-462-500-400 you name it I have it as a Stihl pro saw. Just making this video to warn people cause this is not a great saw from Stihl. The 170-180 were better

I love my ms 170. Im not sure what you guys expect out of these tools. They cut wood, we stay warm and nobody gets hurt. Unless you are going to time some cuts, and get some data, your opinion and comparison is worthless to me. It runs, it cuts. So get a better chain if you dont like it. Im glad i dont exist off of views.

@timberandtools

7 ай бұрын

I love my ms170 as well a lot better than this 182!! Not the chain, this saw is weak

@charlierich9840

7 ай бұрын

@timberandtools wicked. I just read the comments and sounds good. I'm a part timer for sure. Second saw is the poulan 50 20. Working good for me so far. Brother just got a 561 for his second saw, he's liking it.

@timberandtools

7 ай бұрын

@@charlierich9840 I love all make of saw but prefer Stihl in my main production saws except the 2511 echo 👌🏻

@charlierich9840

7 ай бұрын

@timberandtools right on, I'll have a look at the 2511 for fun. Take care and safe travels.

@timberandtools

7 ай бұрын

@@charlierich9840 you as well! Ps if ya get a 2511 she needs a muff mod !

Chains way tooo tight

@timberandtools

7 ай бұрын

Only run a hair tight with a new chain they loosen right up

@allgood6535

7 ай бұрын

@@timberandtools can hear 👂 it’s too tight

@timberandtools

7 ай бұрын

@@allgood6535 it was tight yes also was the way I got it from the saw shop. I never over tighten chain, I will put it a hair tight on a brand new chain tho

@viperstrike3827

7 ай бұрын

​@@allgood6535​@allgood6535 Sometimes brand news bars make noise if there is still some paint inside the bar rail. They can make that noise loose. The chain still rotates when he lets off the trigger. The chain is not severley overtightened. It may be too tight, but it's not crazy.

Chains to tight

@timberandtools

26 күн бұрын

@@kai6265 yes it definitely was on there too tight. That is the way that I got it right from the dealer.

You never start a chain saw the way he did. That's how you get hurt

@timberandtools

3 ай бұрын

Hi, I’m “that guy” I appreciate your concern for my safety.

@rainbowlizard4736

2 ай бұрын

ah shut up the start on the ground method is bull shit and I sure as fuck aint puttin the saw in my crotch