Checking out the benefits of the two different rifle platforms. Ruger American Predator in 308 Ruger Precision Rifle in 6mm Creedmoor
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@chrisrayburn Жыл бұрын
They're both beautiful. Grea video OFD. Absolutely lovely.
@TheOldFatDadGoober
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@bobcatforever3485 Жыл бұрын
TOFD G. Another good video. Great shooting with both guns. Thanks for sharing. Take care.
@TheOldFatDadGoober
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@dennisholle1005 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info. Great video.
@TheOldFatDadGoober
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@hamradio2930 Жыл бұрын
another excellent video
@TheOldFatDadGoober
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@stir_stick9 ай бұрын
Both cold bore 308 shots were hard left… you may want to make sure your stock isn’t pushing. You could have it zero’d with a warm barrel but when cool the stock can’t push the barrel to the right. A friend had that happen, cold bore dead on but follow up shots crept left. Gunsmith had him try sliding a dollar bill between barrel and stock. It bound up. He had to sand the right side out of the stock and it grouped sub-MOA after that. Cool vid, thanks for posting, and nice shooters!
@TheOldFatDadGoober
9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! I'll check the stock out.
@chainbenwa2713
8 ай бұрын
Yep def something drastic happening there for sure.
@hiltonmcconnell2563 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video, the 308 and the 300 win mag are bough great hunting rifles. But if you want something hunting and target try the Savage 110 Varmint in 223 rem. It has a 26" heavy barrel, and is a blast to shoot. Very heavy but carry over the shoulder not to bad. But a fantastic bench or prone rifle, Free hand for you younger guys but at 74 a little heavy for me shooting off the shoulder. Thinking of getting a try pod for mine so I can shoot standing up with it. Again love your videos but where is you buddy, like the ones with the two of you.
@TheOldFatDadGoober
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! And thanks for the suggestion, I'll check it out.
@BuckeyeBallistics Жыл бұрын
Not much of a comparison, but I still enjoyed the video! 6.5 Creed is inherently more accurate by design, plus you shot it out of a rig that was at least 2 classes higher than the .308 rifle lol. Excellent shòoting at 200 with both 👍
@TheOldFatDadGoober
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! It is actually a 6mm Creedmoor, one notch further down the hipster scale.
@BuckeyeBallistics
Жыл бұрын
@@TheOldFatDadGoober Ooooohhhh, I missed that part. I was wondering why you were saying it shot so much flatter lol! Need to get you a .22 Creedmoor next then 😉
@alfredocuomo15468 ай бұрын
They are both purpose built, one is long distance shooting & the other hunting, they both do what their intended purpose was designed to do. They will really show their design differences at a 1000 yards.
@TheOldFatDadGoober
8 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! Good point.
@milo555100 Жыл бұрын
A couple of observations: your .308 was sighted in about 1.5” lower than the 6mm Creed at 100yds. Makes a difference at 200. Obviously the 6 creed drops less at 200 but less significantly than this comparison leads one to believe…due to sight in. You mentioned there was “less swinging” w the .308. But you had something behind the chain on the .308 200yd test…..but it wasn’t there on the 6creed. Whatever it was it stopped the chain from swinging. These rifles are different animals. For hiking and climbing and going after hoofed creatures give me the short, light 308. For ringing steel at distance in a prs competition I want the 6 Creed. Thank you for taking the time to make this video. I like your style. Very grateful for this content.
@TheOldFatDadGoober
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Looking back, it does look like the 308 was low at 100. I thought it seemed to be a pretty drastic difference. There wasn't anything else behind the 200 yard target though. It was the same both times.
@milo555100
Жыл бұрын
Take a look. When you shot the .308 there was a purple square behind the chain. It absorbed some “plate swing energy”. Wasn’t there w 6 Creed. Look at 10:50 vs 13:09.
@TheOldFatDadGoober
Жыл бұрын
@@milo555100 I stand corrected, it does look like the second plate blocks some of the swing. I thought I mounted it far enough away to not have an effect.
@milo555100
Жыл бұрын
@@TheOldFatDadGoober Those 200 yd groups are excellent out of both. Im really surprised that the lesser expensive, lighter, expensive .308 turned in such stellar groups. Great shooting. Thanks again Sir. Subscribed
@daveshsb Жыл бұрын
Very good video The Ruger American in .308 will kill a deer at 100 and 200 yards...no problems. The precision rifle can win you a shooting match on a range and it is could be used for hunting...although it is a pretty heavy carry. Nice presentation of what each rifle can do.
@TheOldFatDadGoober
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@georgekasza729511 ай бұрын
I have a bagara b 14 in 6.5c shots clover leafs, with factory ammo, the only rifle I have that's not glass beded,thanks great video.
@TheOldFatDadGoober
11 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@georgekasza7295
11 ай бұрын
@TheOldFatDadGoober keep it up you have another subscription 👍
@tomritter493 Жыл бұрын
For a stand rifle I'd do the creedmore but I still like my 308
@TheOldFatDadGoober
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! I like both rounds, 308 is great for a do everything cartridge. That 6 sure is easy to shoot though.
@desmondmos9300 Жыл бұрын
Great video ! Epoxy bedding the . 308 action will tighten the groups considerably & hand loads (if that’s your thing ) , sub minute of angle easily . It already looks promising 👍!
@TheOldFatDadGoober
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Good ideas.
@haimchapaev4 ай бұрын
308 was printing low at a 100. Add 3" or so for drop and you miss the circle.
@TheOldFatDadGoober
4 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! That could be it. Still didn't see much drop from the 6mm.
@MrYour1Fan Жыл бұрын
Nice 👍🏼
@TheOldFatDadGoober
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@philipfreeman7210 ай бұрын
Maybeso sight through the bore & the scope before shooting .
@TheOldFatDadGoober
10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! I try to do a quick sight in, sometimes it works great...other times...
@justintaylor7013 ай бұрын
ONE U R USING A MUZZLE BRAKE AND OTHER IS A CAN. WHICH ONE WOULD U SAY HELPS WITH MUZZLE PUSH?
@TheOldFatDadGoober
3 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! I'm not sure, which one how with muzzle push?
@theoracleprodigy8 ай бұрын
Go past 500 yards and then you'll see the difference.
@TheOldFatDadGoober
8 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! I believe it.
@nickrobinson95036 ай бұрын
Kind of a hard way to compare calibers . That shoulda just been a scope review
@TheOldFatDadGoober
6 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! I think it was a little bit about the calibers and mostly about the experience of shooting the two different rifle platforms.
@joemalski8374 Жыл бұрын
Bullet weight is the key dnt forget the drop is far diff.💨💥
@TheOldFatDadGoober
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@jackdickenson5313 Жыл бұрын
Please do the same test with 20 grain ammo with the 17
@TheOldFatDadGoober
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! You would like to see 100 and 200 yard groups with the 17 HMR?
@jackdickenson5313
Жыл бұрын
@@TheOldFatDadGoober Yes, yes I would. Thanks.
@TheOldFatDadGoober
Жыл бұрын
@@jackdickenson5313 Sounds like a good idea, I'll get it on the schedule.
@djkashifjaved4 ай бұрын
11:11 you can be my president
@TheOldFatDadGoober
4 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! I've always thought I would make a halfway decent president.
@ryanschaff7234 ай бұрын
Lol, nothing should change at 200 yards for either rifle. 200 yards is cold pay. But a 2k rifle and won't shoot farther than 200
@TheOldFatDadGoober
4 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@Swearengen1980 Жыл бұрын
"The older cartridge" as you say, I find to be irrelevant. Under 600 yards, a .270 outperforms both of those. Just because it's now viewed as an "outdated" or "old timers" cartridge doesn't remove the fact that the .270 shoots flatter and hits harder than the .308. It's a damn shame that money and research is put into the 6.5 ammo versatility while the .270 is completely ignored. But the new fancy shit gobbles up the money from those who don't know as much as they think they do (that wasn't aimed at you, but it's a general truth among shooters).
@TheOldFatDadGoober
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! The 270 is a great caliber, definitely one that I'm hoping to try in the Future. One of the touted benefits of the 6mm is similar performance with much less recoil.
@Swearengen1980
Жыл бұрын
@@TheOldFatDadGoober Absolutely, recoil has a bit more "oomph" in .270....but for a grown man, it shouldn't be an issue. Would I want to shoot 500 rounds in a day with it? Probably not. But I wouldn't want to spend $500+ in ammo in a day either, which is the case with any of these cartridges lol. But as a hunting rifle, it's top notch. You just don't really get anything stylish or semi-auto options for it.
@TheOldFatDadGoober
Жыл бұрын
@@Swearengen1980 It is a shame their aren't more rifle choices in 270. After shooting that 6mm I am a believer in the lighter recoil.
@Swearengen1980
Жыл бұрын
@@TheOldFatDadGoober I considered the recoil and have been contemplating adding a Creedmoor solely for recoil + semi-auto (4+1 gets old). Then I realize in the SE U.S., I'll never have a 1,000 yard line of sight in the woods or mountains, so what's the point? So I went with a 9mm carbine for cheap ammo and just plain old fun. The 5.56 with green tips for "Oh F" scenarios, keep the .270 strictly for hunting. And now this nagging voice wants an AR-10 .308 that will give me the semi-auto, hunting power, and still a little less recoil with the AR-10 platform. Not a Creed reduction in recoil, but sacrifices must be made when you're not rich LOL.
@TheOldFatDadGoober
Жыл бұрын
@@Swearengen1980 I would pass on the AR-10. I've had a few and they are always underwhelming. A good AR15 platform is going to scratch that center fire itch for cheaper, lighter, and probably more accurate. But that's just my opinion.
@jedprice91227 ай бұрын
Fun to watch but the creed doesn't even stretch its legs at 200.
@TheOldFatDadGoober
7 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! You're absolutely correct. I wish I had some more space to shoot, but unfortunately this is all I have at the moment.
@jonathanm185411 ай бұрын
For the love of everything Holy, get lower scope rings
@TheOldFatDadGoober
11 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! I do love everything holy! That was just a temporary setup for the video.
@henryying8689 Жыл бұрын
Should have done both in .308....
@TheOldFatDadGoober
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Next time I'll do that.
@vgalea Жыл бұрын
Nice glasses. It would be a shame to waste them on PROTECTING YOUR EYES.
@TheOldFatDadGoober
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! I knew I was forgetting something. 🤦
@nodescriptionavailable3842
Жыл бұрын
It's to protect the hat, hard to find a good hat. Eyes are a dime a dozen lol
@russgaartexastrainingandbo949
5 ай бұрын
right bc we all hunt in safety glasses
@bobs1150 Жыл бұрын
With those purple fingers, I thought you had voted in an Iraqi election.
@TheOldFatDadGoober
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! It's been sticking around like that ink too. Can't get rid of it. 😤
@RikterZilla Жыл бұрын
308 is such a common ammunition that it's got to be in the top 3. The 338 Lapua is $10 bucks a round while it's out to 1200 yards. I'm absolutely dithering here. Opinions??
@TheOldFatDadGoober
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! I have tried out many rifle rounds, 308 is what I've stuck with. Always available and very effective, can't beat it.
@RikterZilla Жыл бұрын
I'm definitely fatter and older but I'm looking at a new gun. I like the Ruger Precision, just not sure I want to only shoot targets.
@TheOldFatDadGoober
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! It's great for shooting targets. Kind of a beast to lug around though for anything else.
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They're both beautiful. Grea video OFD. Absolutely lovely.
@TheOldFatDadGoober
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
TOFD G. Another good video. Great shooting with both guns. Thanks for sharing. Take care.
@TheOldFatDadGoober
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the info. Great video.
@TheOldFatDadGoober
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
another excellent video
@TheOldFatDadGoober
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
Both cold bore 308 shots were hard left… you may want to make sure your stock isn’t pushing. You could have it zero’d with a warm barrel but when cool the stock can’t push the barrel to the right. A friend had that happen, cold bore dead on but follow up shots crept left. Gunsmith had him try sliding a dollar bill between barrel and stock. It bound up. He had to sand the right side out of the stock and it grouped sub-MOA after that. Cool vid, thanks for posting, and nice shooters!
@TheOldFatDadGoober
9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! I'll check the stock out.
@chainbenwa2713
8 ай бұрын
Yep def something drastic happening there for sure.
Thanks for another great video, the 308 and the 300 win mag are bough great hunting rifles. But if you want something hunting and target try the Savage 110 Varmint in 223 rem. It has a 26" heavy barrel, and is a blast to shoot. Very heavy but carry over the shoulder not to bad. But a fantastic bench or prone rifle, Free hand for you younger guys but at 74 a little heavy for me shooting off the shoulder. Thinking of getting a try pod for mine so I can shoot standing up with it. Again love your videos but where is you buddy, like the ones with the two of you.
@TheOldFatDadGoober
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! And thanks for the suggestion, I'll check it out.
Not much of a comparison, but I still enjoyed the video! 6.5 Creed is inherently more accurate by design, plus you shot it out of a rig that was at least 2 classes higher than the .308 rifle lol. Excellent shòoting at 200 with both 👍
@TheOldFatDadGoober
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! It is actually a 6mm Creedmoor, one notch further down the hipster scale.
@BuckeyeBallistics
Жыл бұрын
@@TheOldFatDadGoober Ooooohhhh, I missed that part. I was wondering why you were saying it shot so much flatter lol! Need to get you a .22 Creedmoor next then 😉
They are both purpose built, one is long distance shooting & the other hunting, they both do what their intended purpose was designed to do. They will really show their design differences at a 1000 yards.
@TheOldFatDadGoober
8 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! Good point.
A couple of observations: your .308 was sighted in about 1.5” lower than the 6mm Creed at 100yds. Makes a difference at 200. Obviously the 6 creed drops less at 200 but less significantly than this comparison leads one to believe…due to sight in. You mentioned there was “less swinging” w the .308. But you had something behind the chain on the .308 200yd test…..but it wasn’t there on the 6creed. Whatever it was it stopped the chain from swinging. These rifles are different animals. For hiking and climbing and going after hoofed creatures give me the short, light 308. For ringing steel at distance in a prs competition I want the 6 Creed. Thank you for taking the time to make this video. I like your style. Very grateful for this content.
@TheOldFatDadGoober
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Looking back, it does look like the 308 was low at 100. I thought it seemed to be a pretty drastic difference. There wasn't anything else behind the 200 yard target though. It was the same both times.
@milo555100
Жыл бұрын
Take a look. When you shot the .308 there was a purple square behind the chain. It absorbed some “plate swing energy”. Wasn’t there w 6 Creed. Look at 10:50 vs 13:09.
@TheOldFatDadGoober
Жыл бұрын
@@milo555100 I stand corrected, it does look like the second plate blocks some of the swing. I thought I mounted it far enough away to not have an effect.
@milo555100
Жыл бұрын
@@TheOldFatDadGoober Those 200 yd groups are excellent out of both. Im really surprised that the lesser expensive, lighter, expensive .308 turned in such stellar groups. Great shooting. Thanks again Sir. Subscribed
Very good video The Ruger American in .308 will kill a deer at 100 and 200 yards...no problems. The precision rifle can win you a shooting match on a range and it is could be used for hunting...although it is a pretty heavy carry. Nice presentation of what each rifle can do.
@TheOldFatDadGoober
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
I have a bagara b 14 in 6.5c shots clover leafs, with factory ammo, the only rifle I have that's not glass beded,thanks great video.
@TheOldFatDadGoober
11 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@georgekasza7295
11 ай бұрын
@TheOldFatDadGoober keep it up you have another subscription 👍
For a stand rifle I'd do the creedmore but I still like my 308
@TheOldFatDadGoober
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! I like both rounds, 308 is great for a do everything cartridge. That 6 sure is easy to shoot though.
Great video ! Epoxy bedding the . 308 action will tighten the groups considerably & hand loads (if that’s your thing ) , sub minute of angle easily . It already looks promising 👍!
@TheOldFatDadGoober
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Good ideas.
308 was printing low at a 100. Add 3" or so for drop and you miss the circle.
@TheOldFatDadGoober
4 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! That could be it. Still didn't see much drop from the 6mm.
Nice 👍🏼
@TheOldFatDadGoober
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
Maybeso sight through the bore & the scope before shooting .
@TheOldFatDadGoober
10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! I try to do a quick sight in, sometimes it works great...other times...
ONE U R USING A MUZZLE BRAKE AND OTHER IS A CAN. WHICH ONE WOULD U SAY HELPS WITH MUZZLE PUSH?
@TheOldFatDadGoober
3 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! I'm not sure, which one how with muzzle push?
Go past 500 yards and then you'll see the difference.
@TheOldFatDadGoober
8 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! I believe it.
Kind of a hard way to compare calibers . That shoulda just been a scope review
@TheOldFatDadGoober
6 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! I think it was a little bit about the calibers and mostly about the experience of shooting the two different rifle platforms.
Bullet weight is the key dnt forget the drop is far diff.💨💥
@TheOldFatDadGoober
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
Please do the same test with 20 grain ammo with the 17
@TheOldFatDadGoober
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! You would like to see 100 and 200 yard groups with the 17 HMR?
@jackdickenson5313
Жыл бұрын
@@TheOldFatDadGoober Yes, yes I would. Thanks.
@TheOldFatDadGoober
Жыл бұрын
@@jackdickenson5313 Sounds like a good idea, I'll get it on the schedule.
11:11 you can be my president
@TheOldFatDadGoober
4 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! I've always thought I would make a halfway decent president.
Lol, nothing should change at 200 yards for either rifle. 200 yards is cold pay. But a 2k rifle and won't shoot farther than 200
@TheOldFatDadGoober
4 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
"The older cartridge" as you say, I find to be irrelevant. Under 600 yards, a .270 outperforms both of those. Just because it's now viewed as an "outdated" or "old timers" cartridge doesn't remove the fact that the .270 shoots flatter and hits harder than the .308. It's a damn shame that money and research is put into the 6.5 ammo versatility while the .270 is completely ignored. But the new fancy shit gobbles up the money from those who don't know as much as they think they do (that wasn't aimed at you, but it's a general truth among shooters).
@TheOldFatDadGoober
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! The 270 is a great caliber, definitely one that I'm hoping to try in the Future. One of the touted benefits of the 6mm is similar performance with much less recoil.
@Swearengen1980
Жыл бұрын
@@TheOldFatDadGoober Absolutely, recoil has a bit more "oomph" in .270....but for a grown man, it shouldn't be an issue. Would I want to shoot 500 rounds in a day with it? Probably not. But I wouldn't want to spend $500+ in ammo in a day either, which is the case with any of these cartridges lol. But as a hunting rifle, it's top notch. You just don't really get anything stylish or semi-auto options for it.
@TheOldFatDadGoober
Жыл бұрын
@@Swearengen1980 It is a shame their aren't more rifle choices in 270. After shooting that 6mm I am a believer in the lighter recoil.
@Swearengen1980
Жыл бұрын
@@TheOldFatDadGoober I considered the recoil and have been contemplating adding a Creedmoor solely for recoil + semi-auto (4+1 gets old). Then I realize in the SE U.S., I'll never have a 1,000 yard line of sight in the woods or mountains, so what's the point? So I went with a 9mm carbine for cheap ammo and just plain old fun. The 5.56 with green tips for "Oh F" scenarios, keep the .270 strictly for hunting. And now this nagging voice wants an AR-10 .308 that will give me the semi-auto, hunting power, and still a little less recoil with the AR-10 platform. Not a Creed reduction in recoil, but sacrifices must be made when you're not rich LOL.
@TheOldFatDadGoober
Жыл бұрын
@@Swearengen1980 I would pass on the AR-10. I've had a few and they are always underwhelming. A good AR15 platform is going to scratch that center fire itch for cheaper, lighter, and probably more accurate. But that's just my opinion.
Fun to watch but the creed doesn't even stretch its legs at 200.
@TheOldFatDadGoober
7 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! You're absolutely correct. I wish I had some more space to shoot, but unfortunately this is all I have at the moment.
For the love of everything Holy, get lower scope rings
@TheOldFatDadGoober
11 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! I do love everything holy! That was just a temporary setup for the video.
Should have done both in .308....
@TheOldFatDadGoober
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Next time I'll do that.
Nice glasses. It would be a shame to waste them on PROTECTING YOUR EYES.
@TheOldFatDadGoober
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! I knew I was forgetting something. 🤦
@nodescriptionavailable3842
Жыл бұрын
It's to protect the hat, hard to find a good hat. Eyes are a dime a dozen lol
@russgaartexastrainingandbo949
5 ай бұрын
right bc we all hunt in safety glasses
With those purple fingers, I thought you had voted in an Iraqi election.
@TheOldFatDadGoober
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! It's been sticking around like that ink too. Can't get rid of it. 😤
308 is such a common ammunition that it's got to be in the top 3. The 338 Lapua is $10 bucks a round while it's out to 1200 yards. I'm absolutely dithering here. Opinions??
@TheOldFatDadGoober
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! I have tried out many rifle rounds, 308 is what I've stuck with. Always available and very effective, can't beat it.
I'm definitely fatter and older but I'm looking at a new gun. I like the Ruger Precision, just not sure I want to only shoot targets.
@TheOldFatDadGoober
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! It's great for shooting targets. Kind of a beast to lug around though for anything else.