I remember when the hunting magazine writers got together to vote on the perfect whitetail cartridge and the 7mm-08 won. It’s an absolute sweetheart for whitetail.

@noahhorinek

2 жыл бұрын

I still think that honor goes to 25-06 or 257 Bob tbh. But I love the 7mm-08 almost as much

@adamelam6385

2 жыл бұрын

@@noahhorinek I think you can make a case for the 25/06 it’s excellent but the 7mm-08 is a short action which I’m sure was a big part of it. The 7mm-08 is definitely has a considerable edge over the .257 Roberts.

@EatingWild

Жыл бұрын

​@@noahhorinek I would stick with the 7mm-08 my barrel will last three times longer

@franklinfx

8 ай бұрын

Craig Bodingtons pic for #1 whitetail was the 270 win

7mm-08 is hands down my favorite rifle cartridge for hunting. I’ve killed everything from porcupine to elk with mine out to 558 yards.

@jamesm4028

Жыл бұрын

have you killed a black bear?

@EatingWild

Жыл бұрын

@@jamesm4028 It'll be plenty for bear

@stephencarmichael5156

3 ай бұрын

@@jamesm4028 Seen a TC Contender in 7x30 Waters take a bear no issues

I often see 7mm-08 on the shelves when almost everything else is cleaned out. Underrated.

@ucanbobonthis

3 жыл бұрын

a lot of people compensating for small units won't use a "youth" round. the magnum crowd get's offended when you say you don't need a magnum to kill a deer in the south.

@jasonstone5987

3 жыл бұрын

Where I live, only guns available are 6.5's. Everything else is sold out.

@kirkmartin2223

3 жыл бұрын

I'm seeing the same thing around the Dallas-Fort Worth area. Every gun on the shelf is a 6.5cm and the only ammo you can find is for .243 and 7mm-08 or 7mag or other "typical" hunting rounds. I told my local gun shop owner that if he had a bolt action rifle chambered in anything OTHER THAN F¥

@kirkmartin2223

3 жыл бұрын

@CharlyRomeo2009 that is true. 7mm is going to be more expensive than 6.5mm if for no other reason than using more material to create.

@kirkmartin2223

3 жыл бұрын

@CharlyRomeo2009 i agreed with your statement that .264 projectiles are almost as expensive as .284 projectiles. I added that the increased cost of the larger bullets was because of the added amount of raw materials IF FOR NO OTHER REASON. I didn't say that 7mm cost more ONLY because they weigh more or that the amount of lead and copper is the only deciding factor on which sales price is dictated. Learning to read might have been taught in elementary school but reading comprehension is something that you either possess or don't.

The 7mm family of cartridges are the most underrated in the whole gun world bar none. Could listen to this talk all day!!!

@rpk5250

3 жыл бұрын

If you want a great place to go look at the 7 mm family of cartridges check out desertdogoutdoors take on them

@gatorflea2788

3 жыл бұрын

It's not overlooked if you know you know !

@nmelkhunter1

3 жыл бұрын

I love the 7MM cartridges, but I don’t think they’re underrated.

@dakotadickens3747

3 жыл бұрын

It’s not over rated but it’s sitting in a spot where there are rounds on both sides that perform better at specific task. I know several life time users of 7mm rounds that have changed to 6.5 or 30 cal. 6mm etc. they once where more popular then they are now

@nickb8618

3 жыл бұрын

Yup! And the 7mm wsm is the best of the Winchester short mags bar none! Guys really missed the boat on that one. Unless ur shooting dangerous game I like my 7mm wsm way better than my 300 wsm any day of the week

7mm-08 is an awesome round.

People want to buy according to 1000 yard BC and apply that to their hunts that are less then 300 yards.

@MrT13

3 жыл бұрын

Mostly 100 lol

@MrT13

3 жыл бұрын

Yea I’m sure but every state has forests. And that’s still where 90% of ppl hunt. I shoot long range stuff with a couple different things. But mostly when I’m hunting down here it’s all within 100.

@robertrich2492

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly.

@MrJtin69

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you

@derekbeyers8804

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly!

I’m glad people don’t know about the 7mm-08. Means I can still find brass and bullets.

@mot0rhe4d40

3 жыл бұрын

I heard that!! Having a hard time finding 30-30 online as of late. Yet still can find plenty of 08 options in stock.

@MrOchiman007

3 жыл бұрын

Lol nah I have one. Stocked up on 500 brass.

@robertrich2492

3 жыл бұрын

I got one and love it, 7mm08.

@MrT13

3 жыл бұрын

You can definitely still find 708. Walmart had it....

@urinesoakedtroglodyte5764

3 жыл бұрын

This didn’t age well

I think the 7-08 would be the perfect mountain rifle

@NorthwoodsNomad

Жыл бұрын

Indeed it is ! In fact , every manufacturer that has a compact “ mountain rifle “ in its lineup will have the 7mm-08 as a chambering option .

@MrJtin69

9 ай бұрын

I have the tikka t3x compact 20 inch barrel some handy mountain rifle fulled kitted out and loaded is 7 lbs 10 oz

@franklinfx

8 ай бұрын

I had the rem 700 lss mountian rifle in 708 years ago ...helluva a gun but I like my howas more

Here in New Zealand. The 7mm08 would have to be one of the most popular calibers around. Does everything well.

@kieranh2005

28 күн бұрын

And according to the JBM ballistic calculator, 7mm08 with a 120g ballistic tip shoots as flat as a .270 out to any reasonable range and has enough velocity to mushroom the bullet out to 400m My mates .25-06 with 115-117gr pills smacks the big tussock country reds down as well as my 270 with 130gr, so a lighter projectile is no problem there.

I love my 7mm-08. The most accurate hunting rifle I own and with scope is right at 7 lbs. Minimal recoil even with a light weight gun. I always tell people it's like putting 6.5 creed, 270 and 308 in a blender. Only downside, stock up on Ammo when it's available.

@jimtim7693

2 жыл бұрын

Like a .270, 6.5 and .308 combined I came to the same exact conclusion after finding a used rifle chambered in it and buying it out of curiosity then doing some research. Looks like everyone who owns one loves theirs.

@ClearestSky

Жыл бұрын

I’ve pretty much come to terms that the only thing I’ll be putting through mine is Norma 150gr SP because it’s the only one I can find thst isn’t like 3 dollars a round

A Tikka in lightweight stainless in 7mm08 is probably one of the best practical hunting rifles out there.

@VortexNation

2 жыл бұрын

Certainly!

@lessforloans

Жыл бұрын

only thing to make it better is a cerakote and paint job of your own.

@TXLorenzo

Жыл бұрын

@@lessforloans Yep, the basic stock is pretty plain, maybe one of those fancy vinyl skin jobs. lol.

@lessforloans

Жыл бұрын

@@TXLorenzo do you have that rifle? I think that’s what I’ll be getting soon for my 7-08 choice. Where’s a good ammo supply if you do have it and is it a shooter?

@TXLorenzo

Жыл бұрын

@@lessforloans Yes, I have it and it is a shooter, less than an inch at a hundred. There is ammo online without too much problem. You can also reload from 308 brass.

280 Remington represents a similar efficiency standard to the 7mm-08. Extremely balanced cartridge in standard long action rifles. The 280 Remington didn't take off for a lot of reasons, but it might be the most underrated cartridge of all time. Would love to hear these guys talk about it. Similar things could be said of the 284 Winchester.

@donswazy

Жыл бұрын

I agree on both. .280 Remington is incredible and somewhat long forgotten. Even further forgotten is the .284 Winchester.

@cjr4497

Жыл бұрын

.280 Remington is my favorite of all time. It needs more publicity.

@tomcurran8470

Жыл бұрын

280-Ackley Improved is the most efficient 7mm cartridge.

@Spruce-Bug

Жыл бұрын

@@tomcurran8470 Isn't the 7mm PRC quite efficient as well?

@randallwhite9015

9 ай бұрын

7mm-08 is all I use" had 280" loved it as well. Just love short action. 400yd's and in is where I hunt" most of the time inside 200yds.

My favorite is my 7X57 mm. Shot it for 55 years. A great efficient North American game cartridge.

@blueduck9409

Жыл бұрын

The 7x57mm is a fantastic cartridge. I think its very underrated, and much over looked. Flat shooting too. Its much flatter than most others. Its killed a thousand elefants in africa.

@kencleg7721

Жыл бұрын

Most of my gun smiths have 7 x 57 as a hunting rifle

@tomcurran8470

Жыл бұрын

Kills those pachyderms!

I have a 7mm-08 and a 7mm rem mag. I absolutely love the 7mm-08. It’s a smaller rifle, super nice to shoot and I dropped a big 6x6 bull with it at 350 yards this last year as well as prong horn at 400 yards. Both shots felt like chip shots. I honestly can’t recommend that caliber enough.

I have run and will always run 7mm in competition. I have both the 7mm-08 and a 7mm rem mag. Your video didn't do either cartridge justice. The advantages occur at the higher bullet weights were BC is increased. I run a 162gr at 2780fps and a 180gr out of the rem mag at 2980 in the lower accuracy node and 3225fps at the higher node. At those bullet weights and velocities those buck the wind better than the 6.5CM which is the reason to run a 7mm

@nickb8618

3 жыл бұрын

Best of both worlds 7mm wsm. Getting a short action 7mm with 3250fps with a 140gr. Man did guys shit the bed on not buying the 7mm wsm and recoils less than the rem mag

@chasenun5939

3 жыл бұрын

YES!!! I was screaming the point of the 7mm mag was to shoot heavy bullets around 3k fps.

@realblakrawb

3 жыл бұрын

That's why they call it the 6.5 mememore

@blackie1of4

3 жыл бұрын

@@realblakrawb love this comment! Honestly... I've purchased three new rifles this past year... and not one was a 6.5. Why? Cause everyone has one and claims if you don't you're not ANYONE. The 7mm-08 Remington is by far superior to the 243 Winchester as far as hunting whitetail. However... somehow certain gun writers painted the 7mm-08 into the corner as youth/lady hunter choice. I don't get it at all

@Nick-sx6jm

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah gonna have to call bs on a 180 gr going 3225 out of a rem mag. That would be a hot load out of a 28 nosler.

The 7mm-08 drops deer and pigs with AUTHORITY!!!!! In fact, out to 400 meters it is absolutely ethical for elk and the smaller bears. The 7mm-08 gets it done and will minimal recoil. You’d be hard pressed to find a better all around “general duty” cartridge for hunting any game animal in the lower 48 states at reasonable hunting distances. Although the 270 WSM is better at doing everything better than the 7mm-08 it is more expensive and has twice the recoil.

@dawsonbarber3768

3 жыл бұрын

Shot moose with 7mm 08 dropped in its tracks

@MrT13

3 жыл бұрын

I agree. Lots of ppl use 708 in Florida. Very good balance. 243 for head. 708 for body. Up to say griz or Moose. And there aren’t many of those around lol.

@allenlarabie8854

3 жыл бұрын

@@dawsonbarber3768 best all round rifle. Excellent for big game.

@Me2Lancer

3 жыл бұрын

7mm 08 is underrated. For a great overall hunting cartridge 7mm 08 is hard to beat! It is more efficient that a 7mm Rem Mag. I care about function, not fads.

@nathanlambshead4778

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrT13 Disagree, A 100 grn 243 has great sectional density for through-and-through body shots on deer, antelope, sheep, etc. And moose are taken with it up this way also. I prefer a 30 cal for moose, but that does not mean it won't do it effectively.

Might as well do a ten-minute talk on the 7mm Mauser!! Great cartridge.

@Spruce-Bug

9 ай бұрын

Aucklanders say "i'll have a soy latte and a Tikka T3 Lite 7mm-08 please!"

@tonydevich7937

7 ай бұрын

I love mine

Thanks guys! .280AI would be cool to hear more about, 20 min talks are great

@nmelkhunter1

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, yes and yes.

@mikecabra943

3 жыл бұрын

I have a Remington k s mountain rifle in 280 rem. It is a tack driver with factory ammo! I want a 280 ai . If I have it reamed to the Ai is there a chance it will affect the accuracy?

@barrychouinard4019

3 жыл бұрын

@@mikecabra943 not in my experience Mike. I've improved the 280, 30 06, 257 Rob, and had a 250-3000 AI made on a new barrel. It's my feeling the only way it ruins your accuracy is if the smith does a really poor job. Before anyone jumps down my throat for doing so with very little benefit, certainly it can be argued on some, like the 06, yes, very small velocity gain. Others, like the 250 AI, pretty significant improvement, and all have the sharp shoulder and don't tend to stretch as much. I mostly like to try different things, it's educational, fun. Don't regret any of them.

@ryanwelch2177

2 жыл бұрын

My grandpa has the 280AI you can shoot that gun 1200 yards at an elk if the conditions are right

@adamjones7176

2 жыл бұрын

Great cartridge.

7mm-08 is the 6.5 Needmoors mean older brother that just got out of juvenile detention and wants his room back!

@patleddy6837

3 жыл бұрын

Sprayed coffee out my nose when I read this one. Thanks

@kirkmartin2223

3 жыл бұрын

@@patleddy6837 I do what I can

@danietkissenle

3 жыл бұрын

i bet grandpa mauser and grandma swede are going to get involved and slap the 2 into shape

I just listened to this after listening to the 10 minute talk on the 7 PRC. It’s interesting how much things change in 2 years. It’s nice to be able to go back and listen and compare. Thank you.

Love my 7mm08. Been using it for years on whitetail and it has never let me down. Longest ranged @ 385 yards. Browning A-bolt.

@davidspring5149

3 ай бұрын

Just like you I have one, I love it, it’s put a lot of food on the table. But I really think that’s the thing with this cartridge: it’s a fantastic hunting round that doesn’t get the attention of many target shooters. Since target shooters buy more of everything, that’s what the industry supports.

Love the these talks guys! 7mag and 7mm-08 are both fantastic rounds!

When my then twelve-year-old daughter wanted to come elk hunting with her dad, uncle and grandpa, I did a ton of research to find a cartridge that would be effective, yet not make her flinch. I settled on the 7mm-08 for a lot of the virtues the guys talk about here. Indeed, she was able to put a couple boxes through it at the range without major discomfort or flinching. She really enjoyed shooting it, though not as much as my AK-47. Alas, in the two years she hunted with us she never had the opportunity to take an elk, so we didn't get to see its effectiveness in action, but it was a fantastic bonding experience.

@VortexNation

2 жыл бұрын

What a great story! Glad to hear she enjoyed it! Keep us posted when she goes hunting! Would love to hear about it 🤜🤛

@wileytw55

Жыл бұрын

When my two sons got old enough to hunt I did the research also and settled on the 7-08. Both shot their first deer with them, and the oldest shot his first bull elk when he was 13 with the 7-08. I was so impressed with the cartridge that I bought one myself. I've hunted with an '06 forever, but have to say I like shooting that 7-08, and it's a lighter gun to carry also. Haven't shot an elk with it, but several deer.

You folks have done a nice series on appreciating older rounds. Thank you!

If they would have called it the 7 creedmoor it would be a favorite lol

@bitmastermac

3 жыл бұрын

You’re right!

7mm08 is a great round. Plenty of power without much recoil love mine.

@chuckydubree1925

Жыл бұрын

Just bought one may deer hunt with it this season hear alot of great information on it

In this video one mentions the 8mm Rem Mag. It's a "lead balloon" needing a 10-15 minute talk. I'm enjoying these videos, thank you.

Never had to shoot twice with my 7mm-08. By far my favorite gun I use.

@MarAgt

3 жыл бұрын

Truth!

@mikehenry7018

2 жыл бұрын

Same here. Deer drop like rocks, just like they've been hit with an '06. But I can sure feel the difference on my end...

I think we need to hear a 10 minute talk of Ryan doing 7mm rem mag.

Love my 7-08! And yes you can go into small town Wyoming and find a box of ammo, granted its the Core-Lokts, its still found on the shelves in Wyoming!

@tristanmack5779

Жыл бұрын

110%! I live in Wyoming and that statement is very true. Best part about it? So far those seem to be the best shooting, hardest hitting rounds I've put through my gun. Currently reloading 150gr Hornady ELD-X's, but if I have to grab a box of factory ammo for a hunt I would always choose Core-Lokts 💯 my Savage 7mm-08 loves them and so do I!

6.5x55 Swede. One of my favorite cartridges I’ve owned. Hand loading in a modern action.

@timeverett7828

3 жыл бұрын

Incredible results with heavy 150gr plus bullets... Something 6.5 creedmore can't do. Superior feeding in adverse conditions and superior barrel life at much lower pressures for the SWEDE!

@toddjohnson271

Жыл бұрын

A moose killing round that literally children can shoot.

I've watched this same video five or six times I love to hear people talking about the 7mm08 hands down this is definitely my favorite caliber for whitetail deer

Bought a mossberg patriot in 7mm- 08 and love it. Thank you for this talk- definitely influenced my choice in chambering

My 13 year old son shot his first deer and a bull moose with his xbolt 7mm08 140gr bullet, 7mm08 is a great accurate round

@kathywilson3107

Жыл бұрын

Excellent choice for your youngster, well done

Bought a 7mm-08 Wetherby Vangaurd for my son. It’s now my favorite rifle.

Love this round - been shooting since 1984 - love speed and "flatness" - thanks for more of the insight on the round

I have both 7,s. The Rem magnum is a Moose, Elk gun. The 08 is a deer, pronghorn gun . My effective range is max 450 yards and I wouldn't shoot Moose or Elk with the 08 at that range. Not enough energy left at 450. The 08 is max a 300 yard Moose and Elk cartridge. That's why if I had to have one gun for everything it would be the 7 rem magnum.

Love My 7mm-08! can easily make brass from plentiful 308 brass, lots of 7mm bullets have been a good deal in past years. Fits my niche perfectly.

I have shot the 7mm-08 for the last 30 years. I switched from the 7mm Mag I shot as a teenager. I shot the 7 along with a .308 for years and only shoot the 7-08 anymore. My favorite favorite cartridge. Nice talk!

I got my 7mm-08 because I wanted a light bolt action rifle that wouldn't beat me too much. Still a fairly new cartridge at the time. Imagine my shock when I started shooting it and was getting 2-3 inch groups from the only load available at the time by Remington. I got a chance to reload for it cheaply and soon had worked up load that would shoot around 1 moa. Since then, most ammunition manufacturers have loads for it and they are very good. Even the Remington load shoots MOA in my rifle now. It soon got a reputation as a youth or women caliber but don't tell that to the game I shot with it. From deer to moose, I never fired more than one shot. I did reload 160 grain bullets for moose though. My rifle shoots the 140 Hornady Superformance SST's under an inch so I'm set for deer. However I wish there would be more choice in heavier, tougher bullets for moose from the factory. Maybe an Accubond LR or Barnes LRX in 150 or 155. It would be all I need for my type of hunting. Remington dropped their fantastic 154 grain load when the short magnum graze hit. Hornady makes very good bullets in this range too but don't load them in the 7mm-08. Why not? You have lots of people shooting elk with 6.5 Creed because they have the right loads for it. If manufacturers gave hunters better variety of 7mm-08 loads, more people would buy them or should buy them. If less recoil is great for the 6.5 why can't it be good in 7mm-08? With the 7mm-08 and heavier bullets it would allow them to hunt bigger game than 6.5 Creed.

@travissmith-wz5nc

2 жыл бұрын

Try the wheeler scope mount kit. Lap the rings, use the bubble levels. 2 passes down barrel with brass brush. Clean patch then bore cleaner. Let sit 5 to 10 min. 4 to 5 dry patches then 2 to 3 drops of barrel oil. 1 pass. Then 3 dry patches. Go to range with a bore rope. Every 5 shots pull it down barrel. On scope rings and mounts 1 drop of loc tight medium strength. Get torque specs equal. On scope rings also use feeler guages to try and make all 4 sides equal. You should be 2.5 inch groups all most any ammo. Fine tune weights from there. Let me know from there.

7mm-08 has become my favorite round. It is far from a watered down/youth/weak round.

@blackie1of4

Жыл бұрын

My favorite cartridge ❤️

@MattDonkin430

7 ай бұрын

I love my AR-10 in 7mm-08, have a couple good bolt guns in it as well, Tikka T3 and a Bergara Premier Approach (they don't chamber in 7mm-08 anymore) and the Approach is a tack driver... I do want to grab a 7mm PRC for long range though. I hand load so it's a lot easier to make good 7mm-08 than find it.

Love my 7mm08! Get shit for it sometimes but it was the best selling cartridge in New Zealand for years.

@kieranh2005

3 жыл бұрын

G'day, fellow Kiwi here. I hunt with a .270, but I highly rate the 7mm08 and have considered one. It's a rare day when I'm shooting outside 300m, and the 7-08 will do everything that the .270 will do inside 300m.

@averageoutdoorsmannz2015

3 жыл бұрын

@@kieranh2005 Yep I mainly hunt down in Canterbury with 7mm08, red and fallow out to 350yards so far and gongs to 650 without a dial scope. Find 270 is a lot of recoil and action length for basically the same thing.

Loves me my 7mm-08. Was my first hunting rifle that my dad liked so he got one and I bought one for my gf because all those things. Packs the same punch but won’t beat her up so she is more comfortable to shoot. Thanks for the video!

I just had to subscribe as your vids are full of good info and the commentary is also highly intelligent and informative.

I shoot a 7 rem mag. I absolutely adore it. Im a heavier guy my forst hunting rofle was a .270 from there a .308 and a 30-06 and now im on my third 7 rem mag. I believe in it 100% with an accurate shot to kill anything on gods green earth out to 600

I own a a Howa 1500 in 7mm-08. Absolute tac driver and is a very underrated cartridge.

@averageoutdoorsmannz2015

3 жыл бұрын

Underrated guns as well, they have become bloody popular over here in New Zealand as affordable, accurate rifles.

@beardedbjorn5520

2 жыл бұрын

Howa are THE most popular rifle brand here in Australia. I currently own two and have had quite a few more over the years. I just wish they’d come with a better stock.

Awesome podcast and video guys. I am from central kansas and it is open farm land and we have large body deer and take long shots. My favorite rifle is my remington 700 in 7mm magnum. 7mm-08 has been on my radar for several years and now I think its time to buy one because that magnum does get heavy by the end of the day.

Another great 10 minute talk guys :) With regard to the comment at 20:20 from Ryan on not being able to break 4000 fps with the .204 Ruger, I've found it easy and well below any pressure signs with a 32 grain Sierra over an undisclosed (but compressed) charge of IMR 4895 through a CZ 527 Varmint with a 24" barrel. An absolute laser for short range varminting. Mine, zeroed for 200 yards has a POI never more than 1" from POA between 25 and 235 yards. Wind drift is nothing like as bad as you would think either. I moved from using a .17 HMR to the .204 Ruger, but not because of the longer range issues you mention with the HMR, but because of its short range issues with fox (in the UK). The .17 HMR is travelling so quickly (compared to bullet construction) at short range that the bullet just explodes on the skin rather than penetrating for a clean kill. The HMR was actually better behaved on fox beyond 80 yards where the velocity slowed to permit penetration. In any case, the .204 is obviously ballistically superior in every way, if more expensive to feed. Keep up the good work :)

Two years ago, bought my son a 7mm-08 youth Savage Trophy Hunter XP, which shot fantastically, right out of the box - softball-size groups at 200yds with reduced recoil loads. Pretty damn good for a 12 year old kid. So I bought myself one too (though adult-size), also in 7mm-08. Now he's bigger and shooting full-power ammo. I've been very happy with the arrangement, and the handloads I've worked up shoot equally well out of his 20-inch barrel or my 22-inch barrel. He DRT smoked a nice blacktail buck at just under 200 yds last October. There's a good son - you make your dad proud.

@cpreit8862

3 жыл бұрын

Should of bought a tikka their tac drivers my 13 year old son shot a 3 inch group at 500 yards today with hornady sst 139 gr factory ammo. 7mm-08 20 inch barrel. But gotta love the kids getting out and hunting. It's always awesome to watch them bag a deer. Good job

@chadmcmullen4064

7 ай бұрын

​@@cpreit8862I spent $500 on the rig. I'm satisfied with the cost-accuracy ratio -- no 500yd shooting here in western WA.

.284” is my favorite caliber as a reloader with lots of bullet choices. 280 Rem n 7mm-08 are my 2 favorites but I think my next one will be a 280 AI.

@johnmorganjr769

2 күн бұрын

💯 assessment 💯

I have had a 7mm-08 for 2 years. I love it. My son and I have used it to take 5 deer. It shoots accurately, has manageable recoil, hits hard, and is fun to shoot. I wanted his first rifle to be manageable yet last him through adulthood. The 7mm-08 has fit the bill. Also, in my state of Kentucky, there is a .270 caliber minimum for elk. In the unlikely event he gets drawn, this regulation took smaller calibers off of the table.

Excellent discussion. Bought a 7mm-08 last year and absolutely love it. Experimented with reloading and my pet round is a Sierra 140 GK over 42.2 grains of varget. Devastating on whitetails. If I were to pursue something larger like elk, I would probably experiment with a heavier bullet like a 150 Nosler accubond or 150 Swift scirroco. I have total confidence that either of those bullets, properly placed, would do the job.

The 7mm08 really shines with the new powders and bullets available. This cartridge with a 24" barrel is a really great cartridge. Most gun manufacturers hamstring the short action cases with 20"-22" barrels. When men were men and could carry a +7.5lb rifle without severe exhaustion 24" barrels were a minimum on most everything. Now that men get pedicures and throw their hair up in a bun before heading to the woods, anything over 22" is just too strenuous to lug around for an hour after sun up, when they must vacate the woods to get a latte and a wifi hotspot.

@Cannotfindit

3 жыл бұрын

This spot sounds great 😏

I've killed at least 60 deer & one black bear with my 7MM-08. All were easy recoveries; most dropped in their tracks as if they'd been hit by lightning.

Guys loved this discussion on the 7MM-08 Remington, i am a huge fan of the 7MM. Ive owned a Weatherby Vanguard series 1 in 7MM Rem Mag for 30 years, iam not a hunter but the 160 Gr TMK’s & the 168 GR BTHP MK’s make the 7MM Rem a long distance player.

I would love to see a dedicated .270 win 10 minute talk with y'all 😀

@5000rgb

3 жыл бұрын

@CharlyRomeo2009 I agree! The main thing the 6.5 Creedmoor has going for it is the factory support. It's a fine cartridge but the main advantage is the throat is cut for longer bullets and the twist rates are appropriate. If the .270 had the support (I don't think match ammo is available in the real world) more people would realize how great it is. Unless you want to step up to ridiculous magnum cartridges there's nothing that shoots flatter and hits as hard or hits harder and shoots flatter, at least not by a significant margin. The biggest downside of the .270 is that you have no reason to buy other rifles.

@chickenfishhybrid44

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, .270 is an excellent cartridge. I have a 7mm rem mag and like it. But if I was to buy or reccomend one caliber to someone .270 would be probly number 1 or 2.

@Chris-D9

3 жыл бұрын

I'm just glad you said Win...I try to talk about my .270 weatherby to some amateurs and they think they're shooting the same thing outta their .270 win...and of course theres the wsm, 6.8 and nosler

@travissmith-wz5nc

2 жыл бұрын

Seems like 270 doesn't have best factory loads. I have a Tikka that's deadly accurate.

@Asianredneckwoman

2 жыл бұрын

@@chickenfishhybrid44 for someone who only wants 1 rifle here in MT I'd recommend the 7mm rem mag 1st and 2nd choice would be a 270 win.

You should totally do a video on the 204 and 17 rem. Also the 270 would be cool. Thanks!

Randy Newberg uses a 7mm-08, that's where I first heard about it.

@robertrich2492

3 жыл бұрын

He said it is a great cal. even elk and black bear.

I have to agree. The 7-08 is a very under appreciated cartridge. I purchased my first one simply because it was a youth model rifle. I wanted something that was light, fast handling, low recoil and still had the ability to handle 140+ grain projectiles. I wanted something that was easy to get into and out of trucks and tractors that would cover me for anything from skunks and badgers to coyotes and up to deer and pronghorn (I live in Colorado). The 7-08 ticks all of the boxes. If you’re reading this and you’re on the fence about investing in a 7-08, have no fear. It’s a great cartridge. If it has any drawback, it’s the scant availability of factory ammo. If you’re already set up to reload, you will have a great selection of powders and bullet weights with which to customize a load to best fit your needs. Current (2021) situation not withstanding.

Love my 7mm-08. Great round. Laid down plenty of game with it.

I think timing had alot to do with 7/08 being overlooked. It came out commercially in 1980 most guys getting the first rifle for deer then had a dad or uncle or someone close that had either been in vietnam, korea or ww2. We had success with 30 caliber stuff then switched to a 556 and not many nam vets I've heard of spoke highly of 556 or 223 so we had this culture of 30 caliber being the best and we inherited that mindset. Hunting is something we tend to pass down and with that we pass down our cartridge bias too. I just recently got a 7/08 I love it. I've found my forever whitetail cartridge. I am a 30 cal convert dad uncle grandad and until recently myself all were either 30-06 hunters or 308. Maybe not the case everytime but something to consider.

I have a Browning A bolt in 7mm08. I love the A bolt and the 7mm08 round is awesome! I handload Hornady 154 grain sst with varget powder and this combo shoots half inch groups all day long! Great video by the way!

@eddiewindom1407

3 жыл бұрын

Same here. Bought mine in '95 after having a .270. Best deer gun I ever owned as it was quite suitable as a 'brush gun' with the shorter barrel (and short action) but could also do long-distance field shots my old .270 seemed to only be good for.

@kariking171

3 жыл бұрын

👍

Great review of the 7mm 08 cartridge I love this caliber especially for whitetails

I love my 7MM/08 in 140 gr. Nosler Accubond can’t say enough about that bullet combination it’s great. I do handload and that is for a encore single shot. I do not have any other gun in that caliber but I do have a few in 7MM

Would love to hear about the nosler family of cartridges, in particular the 26 and 28. And also the weatherby cartridges. Also the 280ai would be a great choice

I think the 7mm-08 is a great balance of good ballistics, knock down power, light recoil, and is overall a joy to shoot. It really makes for a great general purpose rifle round. With a 150gr ELD-X its is well over supersonic past 1000m and has over 1000ft-lbs out to almost 700m and I can shoot it all day without a problem.

@Kross8761

Жыл бұрын

The more important velocity number is when it drops below the bullet's expansion threshold. ELD-X has a lower velocity limit of about 1800-1600fps (it varies bit between calibers but they're all roughly good down to that) once you drop below that velocity then you're going to lack expansion in a serious way. Supersonic is great, but the distance you really need to dial in is that minimum velocity threshold (just spit balling, I'd guess the 7-08 ELD-X you mentioned will expand reliably out to about 650-ish yards. Still nothing to sneeze at, but beyond that your bullet is going to behave more like an FMJ than a hunting round. I love the 7's, I have a 7-08, and a .280AI and they do different things. I tend to load the 7-08 lighter and use it at shorter ranges with something like a 140TTSX out to about 300yds (it will perform farther) but if I want to poke out farther I go with my 280ackley loaded with a 175 ELD-X and I've even got great results with the 180 ELD-M as long as I make sure not to use it too close, beyond 400yds it's traveling slow enough that it holds together well, and will reliably expand at even lower velocities than the ELD-X because it's a thinner jacketed bullet. You just have to take your bullet's velocity threshold into account, don't push a bullet too fast or try to reach too far and you'll have no problems. My general rule of thumb for velocities with certain projectiles is coppers (TTSX, CX, GMX) work best between 3600-2200fps, heavier "hunting" tipped bullets (ELD-X, Corelokt tipped, ABLR) work best between 2900-1800fps and "match" tipped bullets work best between 2400-1400fps (don't push the match bullets too fast and they work extremely well, but they will come apart if they're going too fast, you'll have a hellacious wound cavity, but you might be lacking in penetration) I wish you lots of luck and hope for all of your shots be be perfectly on target.

I know Ryan hates on the 7mm mag but would love to hear a talk about why he dosnt like it. Can't deny the facts of the versatility that the 7mm rem mag can handle.

Bought a Rem 700 bdl in 708 back in 82 and the 7stw in 84. still use them both.

7mm mag is awesome. Love mine. Baught when I was 18 and now 51. Still is the best long range hunting rifle. 6.5 or smaller bullets should stick to target shooting!!!

@billpeirce7127

3 жыл бұрын

No.

@dillonleverette307

2 жыл бұрын

I think tens of thousands of dead moose from the Scandinavian countries might agree! If 6.5x55 hadn’t been allowed to shoot them they would’ve had a longer life. Lol

Be cool to see a talk on 280 rem. It's such an underrated cartridge

@nmelkhunter1

3 жыл бұрын

And usually under used.

@tomcurran8470

Жыл бұрын

They did cover 280-Ackley Improved, which is a 280 Remington "improved."

I have a 7mm rem mag and a 7mm-08. I love them both and the 7mm-08 is perfect for when my son's is old enough to start shooting/hunting.

What a fantastic well thought concept for a rifle cartridge. Bought a Ruger Hawkeye Compact in 7mm08 for my sister who is small for a lady and she loves it. It is a very good round for whitetail deer. But again everything is and should be based on bullet placement.

.338 Federal needs some love

Could you do an episode on the .300 savage? Thanks

the 7mm-08 has become one of my all time favorite cartridges in recent years. It just hits a sweet spot for power, velocity and efficiency that I really love. I started looking into the 7mm SAW and will probably get a barrel at some point. I like tinkering and squeezing whatever extra efficiency I can get and 7mm just scratches that itch.

I have a Browning BLR in 7mm-08 and absolutely love it. Great caliber in a great gun.

Wow! The 41% more powder in a 7 mag for only 9% more velocity over the 708...That’s a stunning discovery!

@barrychouinard4019

3 жыл бұрын

Said another way, you've got $0.05 less powder in a 7 08 than a 7 RM, and lost 250 fps. I'll take the 250 fps for a nickel.

@chickenfishhybrid44

3 жыл бұрын

The case is huge, no surprise. Now compare 150 and heavier projectiles, he picked 140 for a reason.

@WayStedYou

2 жыл бұрын

@@barrychouinard4019 barrel wear?

@mdixon26288

2 жыл бұрын

Who shoots 140 grain bullets in Rem mag? He obviously hates 7 rem mag for some reason. 7 rem mag shines in 160-175 grain loads. Notice he didn't compare those...

@bfdadventure

2 жыл бұрын

@@mdixon26288 Lies, damned lies, and statistics. Lol 7-08 is no 7 Rem Mag!

I’d love to hear more on .17s and maybe the 6.5 grendel

I could literally listen to Ryan and the guys talk over every cartridge in that reloading book.

I recently picked up a sweet little Rem 700 Mountain Rifle in 7mm-08. It has quickly become one of my all time favourite rifles.

Can you boys discuss the PRC projectiles? Enjoy the “10 minute” talks lol. I own many Calibers and have been pondering purchasing 6.5prc & 300prc. Thanks

Would love to see you guys talk about the 7saum. Best cartridge nobody owns.

We load my 7mm 08 at 150 Barnes ttx solid copper ballistic tipped rounds at 2800fps. Fantastic deer rifle, massive stopping round for mules and effective up to 300ish round for elk. I wouldn't shoot past 300 for elk but the solid copper Barnes ttx rounds are by far the most effective hunting ammo that we have tried.

My buddy has a 14" barreled Lone Eagle single shot pistol in 7mm-08, it is a beast. Fantastic coyote gun.

Its been doing what the 6.5 creedmoor for more yrs and better.

I have a 7mm08 and a 7 Remington mag. I consider the 08 a do all cartridge for everything to ethical distances. 300 yard Moose and Elk cartridge, 500 yard deer cartridge. I wouldn't shoot beyond that 500 yard zone. The big 7 gives me out to 500 on the Moose and Elk, with great bullet selection over the 08. I would like to hear your thoughts on the new 6.8 western, will it thrive and survive. Seems like an odd time to roll out a new cartridge, could be it's death nell.

I have a Savage 110 Scout in 7mm-08 that I got when I was a kid. Light, handy rifle. Fixed power scout scope. Zeroed 1" high at 100 yards and sub-MOA accuracy means i can take a dead hold on a deer anywhere from 30 yards to 300 yards and make a good hit. I've never once had to track one. Excellent north American hunting load.

Love my 7-08 . I own a Tikka 7-08 and it shoots great . Shot them all and this cartridge is the best of the best

280 AI and 7mm 08 are 2 of my favorite cartridges

@johnkaraphillis754

2 жыл бұрын

They are my two primary hunting rifles. X-Bolt in the ‘08 and Christensen in the .280 AI. Hand load and get great results! Great choices

I'd love to see anything on the savage cartridges especially the 300sav and how it is the parent case to the 308win that nobody talks about

Good talk guys. Absolutely love the spec and tech stuff , super interesting to listen to and not just read. My initial introduction to the 7mm -08rem was awkward to be honest. Short version, bought a bunch of floor raffle tickets for a 30-06 so I could retire my A3-03. I won but was handed a 7mm-08 wtf. I made the adjustment about 12 years ago and there has been less waste and more meat in my freezer since. Big medicine for whitetail. My 08 rides a Boyd's Prairie and wears Sig glass. Sweetheart.

Glad to see the 7-08 getting some air time. Grew up shooting it and it was the first cartridge I went beyond 1000y with as wee lad. Any thoughts on the PRC/ARC cartridges coming from Hornady in the last few years? Specifically in relation to the 300 Norma vs 300PRC.

280 Remington and 280 AI!

@fjb4932

2 жыл бұрын

7mm Rem Express ...

I definitely think the 7mm's are underrated. The 6.5's have the competition world, the 30's have a military background. D.W Karamojo Bell's go to rifle was a .275 Rigby which is a 7x57mm Mauser. Karamojo bell was an ivory hunter. One of Jack O'Connor's favorite cartridges was the 7x57mm. The 7mm-08 IS everything 7x57mm Should be. 7mm-08 is a legacy of Paul Mauser. I also think why 7mm-08 isn't that popular is because of marketing. Gun writers don't get paid for telling the Truth. They get paid to convince you to buy shit! The reason why I have respect for Jack O'Connor is because he wasn't afraid to step on the toes of advertisers and manufacturers. He also was a pragmatist. In my opinion 7mm-08 IS a superior cartridge to the 6.5 Creedmoor. You load 7mm-08 with 160gr high bc bullets it's going to perform better than the Creedmoor.

doing my part for 7mm family. Two 7mm mausers,7mm rem mag for 34 years and new built 7mm-08 AR-10. Love them.

I have been hand loading Barnes X bullets in my 7mm08 since they became available for hand loading many years ago. I have tested several powders and bullet weights I load 120 grain and 100 grain Barnes X exclusively for whitetails always get complete pass thrus with Barnes X bullets you can shoot lighter weight bullets because they retain there weight they don't blow apart. I have been hand loaded for 40 years and I think Barnes makes the best bullets for all applications. Thanks for the great podcasts! 7mmo8 is favorite cartridge along with the 243 win.

Great video. I am a huge 7mm 08 fan but you lost me completely with your assessment on the 7mm Mag ... Compare the 2 pushing a 160 grain bullet, or heavier, and get back to me...

@davidpruyne7340

3 жыл бұрын

Dam good point

Ballistic twin of my 7x57. Love the 7mm even though i shoot more 30 cals than anything els. I actually think its a better caliber than the 30.

7MM-08 Improved 140 gr. Nosler bullet ......... 3050 f.p.s. 120 gr. Nosler bullet ......... 3150 f.p.s. The 7mm-08 Ackley Improved has been very popular with us for many years. Most importantly, it provides high end .280 Remington performance in a short action receiver. Most of our 7mm-08 Imp. rifles have a fairly short barrel, usually no longer than 20”, yet we get an honest 3050 f.p.s. with a 140 gr. bullet, and 3150 feet per second with a 120 gr. The original .308 case has been transformed into many kinds of nice cartridges. I believe that the 7mm-08 Ackley Improved is at the top of the heap. We have tuned several for 160 gr. Nosler Partitions for African hunts and hear nothing but praise for their performance. Bullets striking animals at 100 to 200 yards at 7mm-08 velocities will show perfect performance every time. Perfect for whitetail, it is one wildcat that deserved to be born! I like its performance, which is best with a 20" barrel.

15-20 years ago when I was hunting in high school/college...almost everyone I was friends with hunted with a 7mm-08. Seems like certain manufacturers, like Hornady, have ignored this cartridge in recent years. They make some cheap ammo for it and the Precision Hunter, but not their newer Outfitter line, despite having that line in much smaller calibers.