Porsche Panamera | Future of Cars
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We review and take a technical deep dive on the updated Porsche Panamera. This wagon or hatchback doubles as that luxury GT car with supercar capabilities. We detail how this is accomplished and how many of these systems will be the mainstay of future cars and SUVs.
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Index:
00:00 Intro
1:08 Interior Impressions and Audio Testing
6:45 Mechanical Impressions
8:11 Body Construction
11:21 The Future of Electronics
13:46 Braking Systems
15:00 Drivetrain
16:43 Driving Impressions
22:38 Final Thoughts
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this car is so premium it just refused to drive into my wal-mart parking lot and redirected me to fresh thyme
@paullee9982
Жыл бұрын
…it’ll dial 911 if you redirect to Wal Mart…😂
When auto manufacturers poll their focus groups, they don't list specific technologies. They ask if their buyers think "technology" is important. When focus groups inevitably say "I love technology," they're thinking of parallel park assist and radar cruise. German engineers, however, seem to think they mean "I love touch-enabled air vents"
@derbigpr500
2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure no engineer with any importance in Porsche cares or ever thought about that air vent. It's a totally irrelevant aspect.
@MyOldNameWasTaken
2 жыл бұрын
@@derbigpr500 i think you are mistaken. That normally irrelevent turned "necessary" feature is now a big profit for the automaker once it stops working properly. Power heated and cooled moving seats? Power tilt and telescoping steering wheels? Radar enabled cruise control and lane assist/ safety braking? Lots of these things that would normally be manual/ not included in a car are now included not just to add a higher price tag (and more things to profit off of once the vehicle is sold) but also a big source of income in parts for the manufacturer and labor for the dealerships. Once one of these things fail, they don't just stop working. You get a CONSTANT nagging every single time you start the vehicle at best and at worst they start affecting other systems and disable normal operation of the vehicle. The engineers aren't adding these features because you think they are out of touch. They are adding features for profit. Everything is thought of in these products, especially in the more premium vehicles. I feel like the average car enthusiast underestimates how far a car maker will go to increase revenue.
@an-dr6eu
Жыл бұрын
@@MyOldNameWasTaken you have absolutely no clue how a product is developed nowadays... Most of what you said is nonsensical internet blaberry.
@MyOldNameWasTaken
Жыл бұрын
@@an-dr6eu yeah, i've only been in the industry for 12 years and have experience in both the sales and parts/ service so I may be mistaken but if you want to convince ME SPECIFICALLY then you have to provide me evidence to the contrary. Now you don't have to do that but maybe you will since you cared enough to post that comment in the first place
@baron_xd4633
Жыл бұрын
who wants parallel parking assists :D
2:25 Mark testing audio with the Cowboy Bebop OST. A banger too.
Damn the B-Roll music is absolutely amazing. I know how hard it can be to shoot, edit, and produce all these videos. So I really appreciate the content guys!
@barrygoldwasser5449
2 жыл бұрын
Stop kissing their butt. You ain't gonna get a price from them.
@BigEightiesNewWave
2 жыл бұрын
Probably farmed-out.
@ubayyd
2 жыл бұрын
exactly.
@jackholmes8105
Жыл бұрын
@@BigEightiesNewWave our entire team is a group of 2. So its not farmed out
As an enthusiast, I am amazed at the car and its tech. As a technician, I am terrified beyond my wits by the level of monstrous complexity. Imagine trying to diagnose a CAN bus fault in with the service advisor, service manager and shop foreman breathing down your neck.
@jimj2683
Жыл бұрын
The car is made for people that make $400k+ per year.
@hellocar123
10 ай бұрын
you realize porsche is a reliable brand?
@EvoraGT430
6 ай бұрын
@@hellocar123 Except it isn't. Look at all the reliability surveys and weep.
I have the Turbo S e-hybrid version of the Panamera, and I can say that it's a fantastic family car. Little kids can get in and out of the rear seats easily on their own. No giant SUV ride height to deal with. There's tons of cargo room in the rear for trips to Costco, Home Depot, etc. The PHEV aspect of it makes it great for quick trips in town for the school drop-off/pick-up, then to soccer practice, then to the birthday party, etc. When you're taking all those short trips, the EV part really shines! Yes, the cracked rotor PCCB brakes are nuts. So is the PVT Plus, 4 wheel steering, PASM, etc. It's all over the top, but it JUST WORKS when you use it all. Or just turn it all off and slam your right foot down to the floor and act like a hoon. Just don't be late picking up the kids.
@kabob21
Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't bother speccing a Panamera with any of those extra performance options. It's just extra cost that doesn't get used. I've honestly never seen a Panamera at the track but plenty of Caymans/Boxsters/911. Heck, even the occasional Macan.
@Georgia_Cruisers
7 ай бұрын
Just want to say I bought a sport turismo (turbo, non e-hybrid) just because of this comment.
There is no other car like the Panamera. A family super sport car. It's just amazing and I love it.
@ii_dynasty
3 ай бұрын
I'll be honest its its the rs6, rs7, m8, and the gt4door. You could technically add in the G90 wagon as well with the e63 wagon.
Can't wait for your review of the Taycan Cross Turismo!
@larsb.6420
2 жыл бұрын
Ahhh, my man FOMO appreciates the best car reviewer too!
@pnourani
2 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or do they do a lot of Porsche reviews.
@incipidsigninsetup
2 жыл бұрын
@@pnourani access. They're getting amazing access to the cars, designers and engineers. It makes for high quality production that we enthusiasts love.
Piano Black on carplay again, love it xD
@spife129
2 жыл бұрын
As the owner of the same car, i want to point out the actual piano black plastic trim is only on the blades of the air vents. The other black surfaces are glasses such as where those capacitive buttons are. They are not plastic and does not scratch easily.
@Beer_Dad1975
2 жыл бұрын
What I want to know is who thought speccing that poo-brown leather was a good idea?
@neergewleinad
2 жыл бұрын
@El Sordo As a Panamera owner, I can say that I hate the piano black surfaces... They reflect sunlight right into the eyes of driver and passenger alike ... a lot! They should be made matte-black so that they aren't reflective like mirrors...
@spife129
2 жыл бұрын
@@Beer_Dad1975 it’s marsala red interior..z
@JBlandie
2 жыл бұрын
@@neergewleinad I have been shopping the Panamera. Was debating paying up for a 2018+ but if the new center console is badly reflective then I'll just buy the old one
I can hardly wait to drive one in the metaverse.
@TheHomeExpert5
2 жыл бұрын
Meta means death in Hebrew.
@hazardeur
2 жыл бұрын
good job advertising this stupid BS like a mindless robot
@raymond4307
2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@caiden915x
2 жыл бұрын
Or in 6 years when they're $35k
@Tony78454
2 жыл бұрын
Nah bruh zuck wants you to pay him for that lol
I'm a truck/suv guy, but when the Panamera was released, it was one of the few cars I actually lust over. Definitely a car I'd own if I won the lottery.
@bubblelex5051
Жыл бұрын
My favorite suv truck of all time is the suburban gmt 800 series 🙏
Wow, that definitely explains why they are so expensive. Incredible break-down guys, thanks!
@The_Stanman
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. M5 and E63 owners always say this car is overpriced for the performance, but this video illustrates how much more the Panamera has to offer.
17:28 Mark's noises while he's thrown around the cabin 🤣
Savagegeese is the only channel giving me chills while watching the intro.
I remember meeting drivers of these when ice driving in Finland. They were drivers for German executives who had meetings across Germany and worked in them whilst being driven at 300km/h on the autobahn. This works out faster than taking flights, so you guys were spot on, that is the target market!
@kpokfposkf
2 жыл бұрын
When they break, those executives are going to wish they had taken flights instead, unless they don't care about 4 digits repair bills when the car gets towed/rolls into the dealership.
@JBlandie
2 жыл бұрын
Wow what a cool comment! Thanks for telling your story
@markmiller3279
2 жыл бұрын
Makes sense. When you factor in distances to airports and the total time a flight takes from check-in to leaving the terminal, it's probably just as fast to be driven in a compact country like Germany.
@pettersaethre
2 жыл бұрын
@@kpokfposkf if the car largely is used for business any cost are tax deductable including repairs ..and they usually own these cars under warranty anyway. taking flights on a daily basis is in any case more expensive
@kpokfposkf
2 жыл бұрын
@@pettersaethre true, but driving long distances every single day can't be healthy, I'd argue the risks of getting into accident rises, let alone going those speeds (300km/h). I'd pick a first class flight over that IF I am an executive (as flight tickets are also tax deductible).
Well, having one for 2 years i could not agree more. That’s exactly how it feels driving the Panamera. and despite having received a deceiving X5 hybrid 390 hp cie car, I decided not to sell but keep the Panamera. if u dont want to pay the full price, a second hand is a very good option.
I've never heard Mark gasp like that in any car you've ever launched from stop.
@DiaperSNiFFER
2 жыл бұрын
With PDK and Porsches Launch 🚀 control system, plus this is the fastest executive Sedan around the Nurburgring. This Panamera is a gift 🎁 from god 🙏. Can you blame him? For giggling like a little girl.
@gns942
2 жыл бұрын
Mark looking freshly shaved top and bottom during that launch
Personally my dream car in terms of what I would want to own as a daily driver(even if it isn't everyone's cup of tea). - Goes fast enough, can go around a corner, carries bigger things if needed, is quiet and can do +300 miles without any charging or breaks. The rear of that car makes me drool every time I see it. Regrettably I can only keep on dreaming. But until that happens, I'll continue enjoying SG videos and save up money for an MX-5 Miata.
@JBlandie
2 жыл бұрын
It's such a cool car. I think it's my dream car too. I was in looking at the Cayenne and Taycan, but this one really looks great especially because there are a ton of them on the used market that should be coming back to earth in a couple years when the 2018 redesign makes sense as a 5 year old buy
@ubayyd
2 жыл бұрын
LOL ain't that the truth
@veryrare7647
Жыл бұрын
lucky for you luxury cars depreciate like stones and it'll cost 10% of msrp in a few years
@ii_dynasty
3 ай бұрын
@@veryrare7647depends on the trim and what you want in the car from its options.
intro song and segment in general is sick, you guys always take amazing quality photos and videos
Guys, keep it up with the sound design and tunes on these videos. Loving the the last 4 videos !
I love you guys! The reviews are top notch and I watch nearly every video you put out. For what it's worth, I have a hard time following your dialogue at times when you guys interrupt each other. I understand the passion bleeding through which makes it hard to contain yourself. I'm the same way! Also I love and appreciate the humor in your videos. Thank you for making quality content.
The most detailed technical review I have ever seen for the Porsche Panamera. Thank you!
Just chiming in to say great video. You had me engrossed and engaged the whole time. Glad I subbed. Keep up the good work.
The music choices are taking these clips to a whole new level, well done guys.
"No one who's buying one of these cars is gonna take it to a mid-western farm road and tear it up" On the contrary, I'm a mid-westerner who's looking to buy one of these to do exactly this!! I'm not even kidding. 😂Zipping out country roads is thrilling!! I'm actually looking at buying this car because it has countless features and will be a great road-trip car for my friends and I, let alone the fact that it's crazy quick and fast for a hatchback/wagon.
Great review!!! For me Panamera ST it's one of the most beautiful cars on the market. No SUV no traditional sedan have this combo of practicality and elegance and sporty approach on the road. I love this vehicle!
Finally. The only attractive Panamera. Wonderful car for a roadtrip. Rode US 95 which runs from Jersey to Florida and this was amazing. 4 guys, gear and a roof carrier, and you never noticed. Eventually this technology will filter down, but best selling car for Porsche. Go figure.
@TermlessHGW
2 жыл бұрын
Is it? I'm surprised it's not one of the SUV's because I see them all over here.
@BillPairaktaridis
2 жыл бұрын
@@TermlessHGW yeah, the Cayenne outsold the Panamera in 2020 almost 8:1...
@nfugitt89
2 жыл бұрын
@@TermlessHGW Best selling CAR, of course. SUVs are SUVs!
@kristians2704
2 жыл бұрын
the Cayenne, Macan, Taycan and 911 all sell better than the Panamera
Just imagine the maintenance costs for the sixth owner when it’s 20 years old!
@jamesdanton9033
2 жыл бұрын
It will be throw away at that point, like most German cars are at ten years.
@alexnutcasio936
2 жыл бұрын
@@lhlapakjoao I rarely see old 911s, 924, Panamera on road. They’re either in the garage behind junk, in a junk yard or trailer queens.
@AP-jl2lv
2 жыл бұрын
@@alexnutcasio936 by the time they've depreciated low enough for your average 19-22 year to buy one they've been run into the ground 911 is actually one of the most reliable sports cars, but anyone who can afford one isnt going to mile it.
@afcgeo882
2 жыл бұрын
They simply won’t last 20 years. They won’t even last 15. Most are totaled (because repairs are extremely expensive). Think about it… the first gen came out in 2010 and you already don’t see any on the road. I mean, they barely sell any anyway, but almost none are still on the road just 5-6 years down the line.
@ZEPRATGERNODT
2 жыл бұрын
@@alexnutcasio936 what is old?
My wife recently got a BMW 3 series (used) and really likes it, but was talking abotu "next cars", and this was on the list... I think I'm going to have to talk her down from the ledge of future financial ruin on this one. You're deep dive on the engineering complication and the incredible spare-no-expense attitude to building this car was really enlightening.
This car has something impresses you ... it's not to showy, not too loudy, just has some beauty in it !
they provide superb info. great format..
amazing review, thank you!
The digital vent control wins the award of the dumbest idea in the automotive IT tech to date. It's not like that digital control saves you any space because you still have a physical vent with physical blades (or whatever they're called). The only thing it does is make it harder to adjust the vent because the physical blades don't move in real time, and the digital representation seems to a bit laggy, so I'd imagine it may take more than one attempt to set the vent to the right position sometimes. It doesn't SOLVE any problems (no space saved, no improvement in the easy of adjustment). Are people who design this kind of crap into cars total morons, or do they think buyers are? Boy these gimmicks are going to age well.
@jonathanrabbitt
2 жыл бұрын
Latency is the very reason I hate automated manual transmissions.
@davidryder3374
2 жыл бұрын
Like so many products, we reached the pinnacle of what we could do years ago...now they have nothing left to do but add stuff like this, because they can't just keep selling the same thing (they think) no matter how good it might be. Every year they have to "improve" it. That's why you can buy water heaters with bluetooth connectivity and refrigerators with wifi today.
@vincentjoyce5100
2 жыл бұрын
They don’t want you to have to touch plastic, it’s for disgusting commoners.
@diqster
2 жыл бұрын
As a Panamera owner, I sort of agree. That said, you can set the vents to Diffuse mode and they will slowly move to circulate air around the cabin. It's a nice thing versus just having the air blow on you all the time or next to you all the time. It's just...there. I'm kinda surprised that Porsche didn't tie it into the GPS to automatically switch to recirculating air or close the center vents when driving into a city center (pollution control).
@jonathanrabbitt
2 жыл бұрын
@@diqster just use the defroster vents if you want diffuse air.
At least the 19s still have some good sidewall 😁
@ArtVandelayOfficial
2 жыл бұрын
Looks better that way
Just bought a 2018 Panamera 4, such an awesome car, glad you liked it.
Great review!! Jack you should most of the talking! You have a way of getting the point across without seeming pissed off about the vehicle.
This channel seriously deserves more view...
Ever since the Panamera and Cayenne came out I have wanted both. Porsche has a magical way of make even their comfortable luxury cars very capable
@EvoraGT430
6 ай бұрын
They are after all the same chassis.
Boys... BRAVO on the montage of the car, that song fits the car so well.
Definitely a dream car of mines...this and the E63 and rs6 avant I'd love to own if I had that type of money
@megaxboxx
2 жыл бұрын
that's crazy but nobody cares go work harder instead of sharing your thoughts in youtube comments for boomers to give you 16 likes
@dr-ok3sn
2 жыл бұрын
the Panamera doesn’t even compete with the E-Class and A6, it’s in the same class as the A8, S-Class, 7-Series, LS and Quattroporte, they are just the only one with an wagon version, something the Volkswagen group always wanted to do (Audi Avantissimo and A9 Prologue Avant)
@A_guan
2 жыл бұрын
@@megaxboxx that's crazy you think that because I didn't write this comment to get likes
@A_guan
2 жыл бұрын
@@dr-ok3sn yeah I realized that 30 seconds later when Jack talked about it lol
@megaxboxx
2 жыл бұрын
@rasa porosangue why would you be afraid of someone telling you to work harder ? ur that low IQ?
The sound track 👌🏼
I did not expect to hear Bonsaye's Blue Lagoon in the intro. Good stuff
It is impressive the insane amount of technology advancements present in this car, it handles like a sports car while accelerating like a dragster all and brake performance of a race car with 2000 kilograms of weight.
You must really like this car ... it never once looked like you were intentionally try to tear it up. I'm impressed.
Production quality of your videos is second to none.
great video production!
Great review
Great review guys and gals! Scratch that. Gals and guys did expersional review!
Great work guys. Mitch
I’d like to see a build sheet on your car reviews so I can see the actual setup and car cost
I have a '21 GTS .. it's a bulletproof beast ... great review !
11:22 The basis of this "cooperative chassis" was developed all the way back in 2004 for Toyota and Lexus vehicles. VDIM (vehicle-dynamics integrated management) integrated steering, drive-by-wire braking and throttle, and stability control into a single unit. The system could effectively predict loss of control (such as skids, wheel lockup, and wheelspin) before they occurred, therefore improving driving comfort, vehicle handling, and smoothness.
Your nailed it again guys!!
the songs are boppers this week mark, good shit
I genuinely love the sport turismo panamera - its one of the aspiration vehicles for me - thought it was so cool to have a porsche wagon
@markmiller3279
2 жыл бұрын
It's never really looked like a wagon to me - just a hatchback of normal length, where the regular Panamera is a chopped wheelbase version.
Is the car dancing with beat this is adorable 😍
That intro montage was beautiful. The music was perfect.
I drive this a lot on the German autobahn and it is a great car. It is very fast, it is possible to have a phone call at 150 miles/hour, you reach your destination fully relaxed and you look forward to the next trip. Besides that it is fun on back roads and very nimble in city traffic due to the all wheel steering.
before you mentioned how it slaughtered an LFA around the track, i was thinking about how in comparison to its "competition" of how it just handles better and drives better. im really not surprised but just amazed because porsche truly is the best engineers ever, and its not biased, its fact
Best reviewers! Trust + fun Thanks!
Great music and of course, great car.
It's cool they're looking forward to the live adaptation of Cowboy Bebop. John Cho's got the right essence for Spike. Love playing The Real Folk Blues ending theme on guitar
Man those from the front where the panamera changes lane... so nice
Wonderfully produced video. Just found this video and would like to comment from an owner of a 2018 4E hybrid sedan and about to take delivery on a 2022 4SE hybrid sport Turismo. I agree the cars are expensive, yes we can afford one but, my wife and I are environmentally conscious. She drives a Volvo XC 90 hybrid. We live in central Minnesota where it routinely gets to -20F in the winter and an all electric vehicle just isn’t practical. Both range issues and lack of charging infrastructure. I looked at a 4S Taycan seriously but, realized for many months of the year I wouldn’t be able to drive to Minneapolis and back without charging during the trip. This car allows me to get over a 1000 miles on a tank of gas during warmer months ( I live 5 miles from work) and can go days without the engine coming on but, can do launch control when the itch gets me. The ride, luxury features, etc are added benefits and this is about the only vehicle out there which checked all the boxes. I learned a lot from your video, especially when you two were under the car discussing technical features. I’m a new subscriber to the Chanel now. Thanks again Phil P. Little Falls,Mn
As beautiful as this is, and amazing as it surely drives, it seems like a maintenance nightmare. Even super rich folks want their cars to work.
@bb5242
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe super rich people need excuses to get out of golf dates or meetings?
@wackychicken
5 ай бұрын
You better be super rich or incredibly stupid to own this. Liability X 10 compared to a Lexus product. And you first born will die when this car is given to them as a hand me down
Amazing car....amazing review.
THIS CHANNEL SHOULD HAVE MORE SUBS
20:35 nice censor 😂😂😂
Now that I think about it, having a screen controlled/motor controlled center vent probably is for facilitating the use of vent-phone mounts so they won't move just by gravity
Masterpiece of a Vehicle. Well done Porsche.
Just started cross shopping utilitarian wagons and CUVs from the 80k+ OEMs. Really like the idea of keeping my hybrid environmental street cred intact and the Panamera e-Hybrid really seems to fit the bill. Love the comprehensive review. Please review the Lexus UXe when it comes out!
@wigletron2846
2 жыл бұрын
Your wife's boyfriend will probably like it too
The best car ever! After Urus this is would be my second choice. Fast, safe and practical.
Love the styling and the station wagon concept which is why I drive a Buick TourX (Opel really) and being poor only spent $40.
@m1l3s27
2 жыл бұрын
Underrated car. Thanks for buying a wagon.
I've always loved the Panamera.
One of the best cars I've ever driven during the Porsche Driving experience.
@michaelschneider-
2 жыл бұрын
@Lagerace .. +1. Agreed, drove a 2020 Panamera dealership loaner for 5 days in the North Atlanta area a while back.. . A sharp luxury sports barge. . How PAG chassis engineering talent disguises the weight of the Panamera 4-door is magical.. Mind-blowing. . The 3-day Porsche Driving Experience is a Top Five in anyone's "bucket list". . Had the pleasure of a PDE @ Road Atlanta, GA when the 911 996 was introduced. . Can't wait for our scheduled PDE ala 911 992 in May, '22. .. Keeping my '98 911 C2S (993)
Love seeing Tank by SEATBELTS from the Cowboy Bebop album at 2:04. Also great review as always
Finally a song I recognize on the infotainment screen. Nice choice.
Average of $550K income.... My cousin is a doctor and makes nowhere near that. I'm an engineer and even with a side business I have never made even half that in any year. Next time I see one I will signal the driver to roll their window down so I can ask them just what the bloody hell they do for a living because even two college degrees hasn't allowed me to buy one. Hopefully they'll shared their secret! :-)
@moloono1
2 жыл бұрын
Heartlessly exploit people for monetary gain, probably. Edit: Or it could be combined household income.
@troyjollimore4100
2 жыл бұрын
This is the person that does your finances, and the finances of your friends. Once you add up their yearly 'cut'? Bingo...
@markmiller3279
2 жыл бұрын
He is likely a grossly overpaid CEO who thinks he's worth every penny he's paid.
@hby7768
2 жыл бұрын
My wife is nurse and she makes over 160k - i check other cities for nurses and they are like half of what she makes doing the same required work. My cousin is a pharmacist and he makes roughly the same as my wife so it all depends on location. My close friend who is a computer engineer with 20+ year experience does $200k and yes he lives in a big metropolitan area.
@supertrooper73
2 жыл бұрын
Surgeons. Ask my sis =)
The music is amazing
It would be helpful to Include the year and trim of the vehicles in your reviews for people who are in the market for these cars. I actually needed it while shopping a LC500
@kabob21
Жыл бұрын
The badging is shown in the Intro and the trim is mentioned at the 6:50 mark.
That intro music and the Florida license plate? Definitely for a certain demo blasting Kokomo on the beach side
Great Review guys!! Porsche is an amazing car company period!!
@user-jf8gd3lv7q
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, captain obvious!
Thank YOU very much 😁
What a beautiful and badass car... and who knew that Mexico had such lush and colorful vegetation in the autumn months!
This car reminds me of the golf R in the sense that not only is it fun to drive but the interior is high quality without being too flashy.
I’m loving the music at the beginning….
Great vid. I have a question. I have porsche 718 and now I'm thinking of getting a car with more seats. I'm thinking Macan S (2022), Cayenne coupe S, and Panamera Sport Turisumo. Which one would you recommend and why? Thanks!
Hot damn we need more wagons.
watching this made me regret selling my Volvo V60. But then I remembered having to fix it all the time.
The Panamera is the ultimate “everything” super car! The sedan (not wagon) 4S E-Hybrid is the real deal and looks amazing! And it is as fast as an M5 (3.2 seconds 0-60). Excellent review!
@diqster
2 жыл бұрын
Or you could get a 1.5-2 year old Turbo S e-hybrid on CPO for the same price as a new 4S e-hybrid. Way more car where every $6k option is standard. No waiting 9 months for a build either. That's what I did, and I love it.
@SS-22
2 жыл бұрын
@@diqster I don’t blame anyone for doing that. But there are benefits to getting a brand new 4S E-Hybrid, which is nearly identical in terms of speed/performance to the Turbo S E-Hybrid. You can go crazy on the options for a new 4S E-Hybrid and land at about $150k, the benefit other than obviously a brand new car is the updated features that come with 971.2 and for ‘22 the new PCM 6. That’s what I did, ordered in Summer and waiting another month or so for delivery.
@diqster
2 жыл бұрын
@@SS-22 The 4SEH I specced landed at $165k. I just put the basic stuff you'd expect to find in a $150k car and skipped the crazy aesthetic accoutrements. I think most drivers would opt for the 4L V8 over PCM6 any day (as much as I do miss Android Auto). To each their own, enjoy your new car and I hope it comes with everything you ordered!
@SS-22
2 жыл бұрын
@@diqster Thanks, and I hope you’re enjoying your Panamera too. I got the following options and don’t think they’re just basic stuff: chalk special color, black/red full leather interior with Porsche crest on headrests, 21” sport design wheels, Porsche innodrive/adaptive cruise with traffic jam assist, head up display, surround view cameras, 14-way massage/ventilated/heated seats, GT sport steering wheel with heating, rear axle steering, power steering plus, PDLS headlights, ambient plus interior lighting, rear screen with 4-zone climate control, Bose sound system, gloss black exterior accents and exclusive design taillights, and 7.2kw onboard charger, with PDCC/PTV+/sport exhaust system-just over $150k. The 4S E-Hybrid comes with some sweet standard features too like PASM, Sport Chrono package, etc. To me, that has all the bells and whistles. Of course, you can keep adding options as your heart desires and go over $200k even on the 4S E-Hybrid…. When I considered CPO TS E-H, yes they had standard features like PDCC/PTV and PCCB brakes, etc. but they lacked a lot of comfort features like massage seats, Porsche innodrive, head up display, etc. To me, paying for a used heavier TS-EH with V8 just to go 0.1 or 0.2 seconds faster didn’t make sense. I have a V8 BMW F10 now… V8 is cool but overrated honestly. Classic Porsches are V6 anyways.
@diqster
2 жыл бұрын
@@SS-22 My TSEH was CPO (5 year warranty, unlimited miles) and has massage heat cooled seats F+R, night vision, innodrive ACC, 7.2kw, burmester, etc. It's loaded and was less than your spec. Also the V8 isn't a big difference in 0-60 that's sure but how often are you doing that? It's a monster compared with the V6 in highway driving. There's no comparison once you hit the kill button and go.
I can't imagine having to work on one of these.
@savagegeese Could you do a tech Wednesday on the longevity of hybrid and electric car batteries?
I love the Panamera.
Hey Jack was that you at House of Prime rib in San Francisco?
Jack always showing us expensive cars. Come back from the moon!
@hertzair1186
2 жыл бұрын
…because no one will watch a Hyundai review
@AW-gj4ji
2 жыл бұрын
@@hertzair1186 I don't know about Hyundai but Honda/Toyota has a lot of views in general.
@JStryker7
2 жыл бұрын
This isn’t unattainable at all. I don’t see an issue. Most people don’t care about the details with an average commuter car.
@AW-gj4ji
2 жыл бұрын
@@JStryker7 No one said anything about it being unattainable. But you are living in the clouds if you think the majority of people are able to purchase one. I don't mind watching videos about more expensive cars. I was just stating an observation that Jack is always picking expensive vehicles. Also, you're wrong about people not caring about details on an average commuter car.
The rear looks so good.
The "wagon" version just adds a tiny bit more space.
@flacjacket
2 жыл бұрын
And a lot more style, the sport turismo looks so much better imo
I have always liked the Panamera and this one is calling my attention. I hope to be able to afford one down the road. (:
Keep it up!!
As a former owner of a plug-in hybrid Panamera for eight years, I can tell you that the car spent nearly one and half years at the dealer for repairs. It's complicated. The parts are scarce. Few techs have the training. PCNA has no interest in making the ownership experience suck less.