I really appreciate this video. I was in the market for an old 914 and 928, but now I am in NO WAY buying one!

@j.d.8593

2 жыл бұрын

Those cars are more for people that REALLY love them and can work on them by themselves, if you have 0 mechanical knowlege and you're counting on a Mechanic to fix them for you, don't even consider it

@iCoolaxe

2 жыл бұрын

A friend of mine has a 928, and from his experience with the car I definitely recommend not getting one.

@newstreetbridge834

2 жыл бұрын

I had a 928 at 167mph and could feel the front end going lighter and lighter 💩

@JVR_Funwithdesign

2 жыл бұрын

For sure. I think this series is great if you come to it understanding that it's not really about what is and isn't a bad car (though it might seem that way sometimes) it's more about what's a good/bad car if you aren't going to get your hands dirty.

@suffolkngood

2 жыл бұрын

Apt user name !! lol

What not to buy: Any Porsche Hoovy has driven

@isaacpark90s

2 жыл бұрын

stay away from any car from tyler hoover its a good warnning

@zxggwrt

2 жыл бұрын

💀☠️💀

@williamegler8771

2 жыл бұрын

Any vehicle Hoovie has driven or ridden in...

@Duraputer

2 жыл бұрын

But if you buy it after he fixes everything it could be a good deal.

@carl_84

2 жыл бұрын

specially if it was on a track

My dealership took a yellow Boxster in trade in 2004. The car was driven by a singer from Taiwan who was going back home. She left me a CD with the name Ruby on it; wonderful music. It had a medium red interior and was a blast to drive. I took my 85 year old father for a short drive and he loved it. He passed away two weeks later. I have always liked the Boxster the most because it stands out more and feels more luxurious.

@AZEOforreal

Жыл бұрын

This experience of stupendous driving is mostly because the boxster is like a metal canoe on good coil overs. What I mean is, the body is rigid only on the bottom to get tight, accurate steering and grip. To sacrifice cost, they take out most of the top support of the car. The interior is also another piece in which they dump $$$ in to give the illusion of luxury at a scarily low cost. As long as you are not in the market for rolling it over or driving for more than 50k miles they’re a great pick. Hence why they are disposable mobiles for billionaires and travelers alike.

@kenmacphee7400

Жыл бұрын

Excuse me? 50,000 miles, please.

@AZEOforreal

Жыл бұрын

@@kenmacphee7400 it was in 2004

@pushatsinfrared

Жыл бұрын

@@AZEOforreal I’ve seen 986s & 987s with 100,000s of miles on them. So long as you look after them, replace the IMS and don’t buy a 3.4 they shouldn’t give you too many issues

@sutherlacd27

Жыл бұрын

Speed yellow exterior with red interior? Some people love that combo but it makes me think of McDonald's

I had a 2013 Panamera Turbo 970 that was fast and fun. Didn’t care for the hump so much so traded up to a 2018 Panamera Turbo 971 with 50 more horses. The technical amenities over my older one is phenomenal! Quieter, smoother, rear steering, night vision, the works….less sportyness because of its limousine feel! Also has sound proofing so I have to let the windows down to really hear the exhaust, even in sport plus mode!

@dmdale3598

2 ай бұрын

I was wondering which year to buy. Thanks for the info.

As a former mechanic, whose last major work was replacing the head bolts and injector pump on my Eldo diesel, I really appreciate this channel!

Can't 'get behind' a four door Porsche, immediately follows up with a recommendation for a four door Porsche...but very true, the Taycan is a great car. You are right.

@AE86FTS

2 жыл бұрын

The first gen Panameras are a lot uglier than the Taycan

@samfuller6273

2 жыл бұрын

Let's be honest Porsche would probably be out of business if they didn't make an SUV and a four-door. It's saved Porsche. But also degraded the Porsche name all in one shot. The electric cars might bring them back to a better status. I don't know for sure if people are going to accept an electric 911 though.🤔

@AE86FTS

2 жыл бұрын

@@samfuller6273 I assume the reaction will be similar to the 996 when it first came out.

@JVR_Funwithdesign

2 жыл бұрын

@@samfuller6273 As long as they stick all the batteries behind the rear axle to throw off the balance, it'll be all fine... Porsche has been saved so many times by the cars that Porsche purists look down upon. The 944, the Boxter etc etc. All this so they can keep making a car that makes absolutely no sense mechanically (don't get me wrong, I love the 911 but it's a car that wouldn't exist if it was designed today).

@GTFour

2 жыл бұрын

@@JVR_Funwithdesignmust do something right to make it one of the most successful race cars ever

Always love to hear what u got to say , honest mechanic are something u don't see to much of , so ur opinion and knowledge in the automotive world is definitely appreciated , love the channel and all u and Ms wizard do for the viewers

I like the way you present these videos. Simple explanations and a touch of humour. I did have a Porsche 2.7 in the 70's, and yes it went like stink, but it was tail happy when braking hard into a corner. I had a few smelly moments when the tail started to wag.

928 has a place in this world after the story that Jeremy Clarkson told us.

@jeroenorriens2590

10 ай бұрын

Indeed, and 5.0 32v euro models from like '86 are not slow, plus it's meant as a high speed touring car not a sportscar

@jamesmedina2062

8 ай бұрын

@@jeroenorriens2590The engines are also pretty to look at and you can see the motor. As a kid I liked the rear seats a LOT. Great car for kids! Supple leather all around. Much better than 944 for a young kid.

@lorenzomoore6398

8 ай бұрын

True.

@thefreedomguyuk

7 ай бұрын

Well, I guess they belong in museums

@emed1977

2 ай бұрын

928 is on middle age guys dream cars list because of Risky Business.

944 owners were sweating during this video

@chrisz9453

2 жыл бұрын

I would've bet money on it making the don't list.

@nicolascrescimone

2 жыл бұрын

It's known to be the best engineered Porsche of the 80s. Better handling and the turbo would kill any 911 in the track with just a ECU chip.

@captainflipflop8805

2 жыл бұрын

Best car I ever had

@ironmonkey1512

2 жыл бұрын

they are good cars

@alecmartin0180

2 жыл бұрын

Not as much. 1977-82 924 owners probably were, and I’m surprised the 914 was the car not to buy over the 924.

I respect that you clearly state over and over again that this is your opinion based on your repair experience. Not much else you can do, but folks still come unglued. Be encouraged!

As a Boxster owner I can only confirm! It's a fun car to drive and a true Porsche in every way!

@d3m0niccity16

Жыл бұрын

What year do you have thinking about a 2005 for daily

@pervertt

Жыл бұрын

@@d3m0niccity16 If the budget can stretch, I recommend getting a 2009 car or later.

@pervertt

Жыл бұрын

@@theeditor1072 What car do you have in your garage? (I'm assuming you're old enough to have a driving licence).

@romulus_

Жыл бұрын

@TheEditor107 tired trope, tiny mind.

@OVERLORDCLOWN

Жыл бұрын

@@pervertt I have a drivers lisemse but not a car. Yet

I got my first Porsche last month to celebrate my 35th .. after driving all the mid 90's- early 00's .. I went with my driving gut and picked a Boxster S .. I tried doing donuts just like your buddy ( After I bought it of course ) I was amazed at how it handles,, It grips like crazzzyyy and the sound of a mid engine roaring inches away from my ears is better than most radio stations,,especially when its a Porsche engine. Thank you Car Wizard

I'm in the minority when I say the new-ish Panameras look amazing. They fixed the ass-end rounded/squat look. Unfortunately they're like 100k, which is approx. 80k out of my price range.

@short0811

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed! That being said I’m a huge fan of wagons. I’m not a fan of the first gen Panamera though.

@paulstabin6233

2 жыл бұрын

They are way less hideous now. To be fair, that was the only direction they could go...

@K1dPhresh1

2 жыл бұрын

The shooting brake one, looks amazing!

@Shaun-hp2yz

2 жыл бұрын

agreed!

@jtm9910

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂

The Boxster S didn't come out until 2000. The 99 is still the sweet spot though, they're past the D-chunk cylinder liner issue but have the original two row IMS bearing that is much less likely to fail than the single row bearing from 2000-2004 and because they're 2.5l engines, people shy away from them because they're not as fast as the S that came out in 2000. I'm going to pick one up next year I think.

@Leoparh

10 ай бұрын

I am very curious, did you buy it ? if yes how is it ?

@thefreedomguyuk

7 ай бұрын

Bingo! Right on target there !

Bought my 1980 20 years ago with 38,000 miles. I don't drive it a whole lot because it's more of a collector car I treat gently, but the value has exploded and it's an amazing car that has not given me any issues.

Don't buy any, unless you can afford the maintenance and repair bills. If you can afford the bills, buy whatever floats your boat.

@highlypolishedturd7947

2 жыл бұрын

Well said. Car Wizard, and others, have many war stories about people reaching too far and getting something they can't (or won't) spend the money on.

@houseofno

2 жыл бұрын

Here's a better idea. Buy a service manual and tools. Professional mechanics already have plenty to do from people who won't soil their hands with doing their own mechanical work.

@taunuslunatic404

2 жыл бұрын

@@houseofno True. I think a 944 would be a good car for the DIY mechanic/ weekend warrior.

@TheTardis157

2 жыл бұрын

@@taunuslunatic404 I have one and it is. Most jobs are fairly easy and you really just need a basic wrench set and a torque wrench and you can do 90% of the work on it.

@JVR_Funwithdesign

2 жыл бұрын

@@taunuslunatic404 Sort of. The major issue with all these cars is that while they are mechanically very simple to work on, you are still paying Porsche prices for parts. Even if you go aftermarket, some of the 944 platform parts are silly money (I'm very familiar, owning a 968). Not for the faint of heart.

Whenever you are able to make the next episode of this, I would love a "buy this, not that" for Subaru. Great vid as always.

@JH-jm8ib

2 жыл бұрын

The ones to not buy is any Subaru with a Boxer engine coz they have head gasket failure and the Continuous Variable Transmission made by JATCO. So basically avoid all Subarus unless you have an extended warranty otherwise be prepared to spend a few thousand dollars for an engine rebuild and/or a CVT rebuild

@YuShawStang

2 жыл бұрын

@@JH-jm8ib I used to work in a restaurant and my assistant manager bough an automatic transmission WRX. He got teased by staff and customers.

@samholdsworth420

2 жыл бұрын

@@JH-jm8ib they all have boxer engines 🤣

@minermarcus

2 жыл бұрын

I had a 1987 manual Subaru DL that went 225,000 miles with nothing but regular maintenance. No problems and I sold it still running well.

@fabianpineda3130

2 жыл бұрын

@@JH-jm8ib lies. boxer engine is great

Great video! It'd be really neat if you could do a similar video but focused more broadly on which Euro brands to buy or not to buy from a context of overall reliability/maintenance intensity.

I had a 2000 986S and loved it, but sold it to a friend to get a 996 C4 Cab. I don't regret it at all. I did it to get the back seat enabling me to get my 2 year old son in the car. He LOVES it and always wants to take the Porsche. He will say Porsche whenever we go on the garage. I could not afford to get a comparable 997 or above, and definitely cannot afford an Air Cooled with prices on them now. I love my 996

I had a 1990 C-4 for 11 years, and loved it. The full time 4wd is heavier than the 2wd version...but the traction you get with the c-4 is amazing. I never chirped a tire in that car. I'd try and just get sling-shotted. Great video. I'm sure this could easily have been an hour long.

Been a while Wizard. Always enjoy the “buy this, not that” series 🤙

@Mustansirtaher6

2 жыл бұрын

Same

@brianlego98gaming

Жыл бұрын

What happens next? The Car Wizard shares the top AMC/Eagles to buy and not to buy

The 928 will always be my favorite Porsche design up until today..I fell in love with it as a kid ever since I saw the movies Weird Science, Scarface & Risky Business..

@raymondabella4684

11 ай бұрын

If it's good enough for Tony Montana...! 😀

@jamesmedina2062

8 ай бұрын

The simplicity of the curves, interior look and feel and the cool wheels all made it special

@MasterArmedforces

4 ай бұрын

The peeling-out scene at the mall in WS is what hooked me! Was that one dark blue or black ?

@ro-landocalrissian4633

4 ай бұрын

@@MasterArmedforces I’d have to watch the movie again..

Our Porsche Macan GTS has been nothing but reliable--and amazing to drive! Soooo fast. But yes, our next purchase is a Taycan 4S.

@Dolomite4518

2 жыл бұрын

I concur, will be mine as well

@jordanbell4420

Жыл бұрын

If reliability is something that you value, I'd avoid the Taycan, or any EV for that matter

@omnihexa

Жыл бұрын

Don't buy Taycan! It's been told in China to be getting lots of failures. You might regret trust me.

@pjfan173

Жыл бұрын

@@jordanbell4420 Cobalt supplied by Congo Kids

@xen.7140

7 ай бұрын

@@jordanbell4420 lol wtf is this comment, I've had a Taycan for years with no issues at all

The 944 had some good moments. Especially the turbo twords the end.

@h5mind373

2 жыл бұрын

Yep, I had several. Great cars.

@rubeclayton8233

2 жыл бұрын

Check out the youtube videos of 944's with Small Block Chevy Engines...

@krystilla

2 жыл бұрын

Some? we talking about 3? 4? not 2 right?

@chaedeukkim

2 жыл бұрын

Torque tube bearing went bad on mine. One of the biggest headache I ever had.

@OtomoTenzi

2 жыл бұрын

@@h5mind373 Are they MONEY PITS??? I mean, how much would it cost just to keep the average 944 running each year?

Imagine The Car Wizard in the 70s with buckets of money!!

@buggerlugz6753

2 жыл бұрын

Huggie bear character?

I bought a 2011 Panamera 4S in 2020 and it has been a blast. This car is incredible. The upkeep is not cheap but I don't care. Talking about coolness points. I live in LA and the hottest girls have reacted very positively to it. A lot of people here think driving a 911 is trying to hard. But that may be specific LA. I personally love 911s. But you could be right about the V8. I'm approaching 90K miles and it has lost its smoothness. At 58K when I bought it, it ran super smooth. I switched motor mounts but there was only a minor difference. Otherwise I'm addicted to my Panamera and I will get a newer model eventually.

@lifeatitsbest410

2 ай бұрын

I had a 2010 Panamera S with 190,000 miles and it was incredible! Fast and super comfortable at high speed. I bought a Cayenne S because I needed to tow but enjoy yours sir!

@emiliancailean4871

Ай бұрын

@@lifeatitsbest410how was maintenance on it? I found one for 15k, dealer maintained (2010 4S) with 115k miles on it. It’s in great shape and I prefer the older style as well.

@lifeatitsbest410

Ай бұрын

@@emiliancailean4871 maintenance was no different than any of my other cars. Fairly cheap to run and not a lot to go wrong on a N/A car.

I love my Panamera. 4 seats you can put full size people in. Still drives super nice

I’ve been waiting on this video for sooo long. What a great series!!!

@md2k8

2 жыл бұрын

Me, too.

I love shifting manual transmissions. It is the joy of driving. The last automatic I had was my mom's station wagon back in the early 1970s. I can't imagine buying a Porsche without a manual transmission.

@avsystem3142

2 жыл бұрын

There really is no comparison between a torque converter automatic transmission and a modern dual clutch transmission, which is really an electronically controlled "manual" transmission. The difference is between rowing a stick or flicking a paddle.

@yorbalindason

Жыл бұрын

The PDK would change your mind.

@sutherlacd27

Жыл бұрын

I really wanted a manual when I was looking at 911 turbos. But I ended up finding a deal on one with an auto that I simply couldn't pass up. It was $20k less than any comparable manual I had found over the 6 months I was looking. I couldn't justify paying $20k+ more for a manual over an auto.

@synchromesh100

10 ай бұрын

@@yorbalindason Wrong. I've driven multiple PDKs. None of them hold a candle to a real manual. And they never will.

@ryaneisenberg3147

9 ай бұрын

​@@yorbalindasonI completely agree! My 911 has a PDK, I'm so used to manual but the PDK completely changed my mind! What a transmission, it's just difficult to explain how it holds the gears, down shifts so incredibly, everything about the PDK transmission is just mind blowing to me!!! Until someone really drives it, it's not something that can be explained. They are so different and just so impressive!

Thank you Mr. Wizard. I have a 2016 Macan Turbo with the 3.6 V6 and thanks to your video ended up doing a bolt swap on the timing chain cover as 2 of the aluminum bolts were broken and leaking oil and I only thought to check those thanks to your video. It's tough because for me the car is the perfect size as we are a family of 3 and my daughter is relatively short and wow do I love to drive it as I have never driven anything with that kind of power and handing before but taking off the entire front end to do that repair was a very daunting task. Hopefully with the bolt swap and new gaskets my oil leak issues will be behind me because I only have 25k km on the car and I absolutely love it. You were right about the aluminum bolts though and everyone should be warned! What a mistake to put aluminum bolts in a SUV/CUV whatever you want to call it, a sports car I could understand but really? Thank you again.

914: lots of fun to drive, worked on mine so repairs were cheap (vw engine), top comes off. Not for everybody for sure, but I really enjoyed that car.

I have had five Porsche V8. 1 Panamera and 4 Cayenne... All of them ran smooth only one of them had a cold-weather problem with the valves and started to blow smoke before I sold... The Porsche V-8's are the best value in my opinion for the experience

The 928s might be a relatively slow mess of a car but that first gen design was SPECTACULAR!

@petestanton1945

Жыл бұрын

Ya. I loved the modern design of the 928 & everybody said it wasn't great, although better than the 944 "poor man's Porsche". So, disappointing, but not really a gutpunch for me

@ashezplayboy

Жыл бұрын

@@petestanton1945 def not better than 944s maybe 924s & 914s

@ericbitzer5247

Жыл бұрын

I agree. Especially the rear of the car. I like the early taillights.

@ericbitzer5247

Жыл бұрын

@@ashezplayboy 928 definitely better than the four cylinder 944.

@toxictophat4194

Жыл бұрын

I love my 944 so I have to pay respects to the 924 for making it possible but man I have a early 944 so same interior but a Porsche engine and man it's a blast with a good mpg

I love this series. I just subscribed. My only knock would be that you don’t see them unless there’s a problem. I’m sure you’re correct about most though. I went and did the Porsche Experience. It was amazing. I wanted a 911 my whole life but after that I’ve been lusting after the Taycan and Cayman. The acceleration of the Taycan is unreal and power and handling of the Cayman felt like the perfect combination.

Very interesting to hear about those details! Also like that it’s presented in this calm manner

Sitting during the video was a nice touch. Then I realized he was sitting on a car seat on a flat bed cart… 😂

He's talking about the 914-4. The 914-6 has six cylinder 110 HP and 0 - 60 mph in about 8 seconds which was respectable back then. But the car wasn't about speed. It was one of the first the mid-engine cars and handled better than almost anything on the road. It was the forbearer to the Porsche Boxster. If you find one in excellent condition today it will easily cost over $50k.

@GuitarsAndSynths

Жыл бұрын

yup I know a guy with one he is restoring

@davidquinn9676

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I test drove one and eventually ended up buying a 911 instead, but always sort of regretted. The 911 was fast but that 914 was a fun little go-kart! Now and for the past several decades they're all rusted out.

I love the properly genuinely honest assessment. It might lack a bit of the emotion that really drives these decisions, but it's really insightful 😀

Gr8 Review Wizard! Keep it up bud. Really enjoyed it!😅

I have a 400$ 928s it never broke mechanically, sounded great, a completely clapped a 2.0 genesis turbo, and even after it got put in a wall it still drove and I'm currently fixing it. It also gets the most attention of any car I've owned, every gas station someone would freak out over the car.

@emceeslo

2 жыл бұрын

That's what I'm sayin' Jake! Check out my comment sir!

@demetriosb5758

2 жыл бұрын

Where did you get a 928 for $400?

@jakecletus2824

2 жыл бұрын

@@demetriosb5758 I traded the guy a sl500 for it which I got for 1k and he gave me back my 928 (I sold it to him 4 months prior) and 600$

@betterbeavailable

2 жыл бұрын

I like 928 too. Looks iconic.

Wise words from the wizard. Very helpful. Please continue to do more of these, can you do one for Lexus.

The Macan Turbo with the 3.6 liter engine is a riot on twisty roads and a very comfortable car on long trips and costco runs. It has been very reliable and great in the snow.

@jimsteinway695

Жыл бұрын

I went on a road ride in my 18 GT3 with my buddy in his 17 Macan S. I was impressed with its speed and quickness. Really a car with 2 personalities

@deadbolt9019

Жыл бұрын

As a Macan owner (multiple Porsche as well), I looked at it more as a "lifted car" than an SUV. It slots in for those who kinda need a touch more space than the 2-doors but don't want a Cayenne. The Cayenne drove more like a muscle truck, than a car.

@hidalgosbulliesdanes8156

Жыл бұрын

Just got a 2018 macan turbo I honestly don't think the interior is that bad I just feel like that put to much buttons in the middle console but so far it's been fun and havnt has any issues has bumper to bumper warranty so I ain't to worried about it either way

@cruiser6260

11 ай бұрын

The typical Macan buyer could not get in and out of a Porsche sports car, sitting low and stretched out. Since they're on every street the whole image of a Porsche driver is now a grandma

@Selbach555

7 ай бұрын

That segment just showed a complete lack of understanding of the Macan line. The Turbo and perhaps the GTS is an entirely different animal and the 3.6 is one of the smoothest turbocharged engines they've produced. The air suspension is pretty special as well and the entire package would put a lot of sport sedans to shame.

Bought a 2017 Macan S new…..still have it. Absolute joy to drive. Has the quality build I expected from Porsche. In April, I’ll take delivery of my new 911 Carrera. If you’re thinking about a vehicle, you can talk to someone who’s “looked at one”…..or to someone that’s owned one. Your call.

For the 914, a clear distinction must be made between the VW engined 914-4 and the Porsche engined 914-6 . I would buy a 914-6 immediately if one were available. It was a go kart with much better handling than a 911. With the same engine. I now own a 1996 993 turbo, and 914-6 is the other Porsche I would have. I sold my 1969 911S to buy the turbo, which was a good exchange. I have owned various Porsches for over 40 years.

A lot of gut punches involved cars that VW had their fingers in

@pablopicaro7649

2 жыл бұрын

914 was a car designed partially by Porsche for VW-Audi, but they didn't want to use it.

@sully676

2 жыл бұрын

finger? they were/are balls deep in most of them XD

@TheMrLebaron

2 жыл бұрын

@@sully676 And theyve straight up owned them for the better part of 50 years

@boyscouts5000

2 жыл бұрын

ID argue that VW been involved since the beginning. Fernidan Porsche designed the first VW beatle and the first Porsche.

@sully676

2 жыл бұрын

@@boyscouts5000 true, but there were less VW/Audi parts on the older Porsches than the modern ones.

Bro! This was the best no nonsense video about which porsche to buy on the internet. Period! Thanks!

Good video, I do like the 986 boxters as they’re good cars. I’ve seen three of them (track/solely race cars) burn down motors due to cooling issues (mainly cap going bad). However I do disagree with avoiding 90s 911s. Only 97 forward were 996 (water cooled) The earlier 993s were pretty good and the 964 was also a sweet car. Most of the aircooled stuff was nice and worth a ton now!

"If I were swimming in money"🤔😂

@cambridgemart2075

2 жыл бұрын

I would have more than 3 boats!

@Anonsage3

2 жыл бұрын

AKA if Hoovie was around in the 70s

@aggmang

2 жыл бұрын

you'd have to swim in 50 olympic swimming pools filled with money and welded together for a 74 RS lol

930 was/still is the Porsche everyone wants whether they know it or not.

@ralfhenke8148

2 жыл бұрын

Be alert though: As much as I adore the 930, too, they are monsters! This is one of the very first - if not THE first turbo'ed production car (putting the limited run BMW 2002 turbo aside I think it is only challenged by the Saab 99 turbo). And boy, does it show: As the wizard said: These are blisteringly fast... yes... IF you know what you're doing, that is. There really isn't THAT much power going on at lower revs. OK, it's still 1970ies Porsche kinda quick but be prepared for when the turbocharger kicks in. And it does quite literally KICK in. It pretty much feels as if the car had been hit by a giant hammer from behind. And since it's still both RWD and rear engined of course, this one will not hesitate for the smallest fraction of time to hang its whale tail out, get you into spinning wildly and - pretty literally, too - take your head off. The car has tremendous grip but when that grip ends it does so in the blink of an eye. So make sure you have plenty of space around you as "Transition to oversteer" really isn't in this car's vocabulary. It honestly is one of the trickiest things to go fast in. Scaringly so. And it has my deepest respect whenever I get to drive one (which hardly ever happens these days as they have become obscenely expensive - at the time of writing). The best 0-62 time I ever came up with was something like 5.5, 5.6 seconds. Which - admittedly - is exactly what Porsche themselves quoted for the first series, 250hp 930 turbo. You may want to consider, though, that in ANY other Porsche I timed over the years (including non turbo 911s, late 4WD 911s, 924 and 944 - turbos and naturally aspirated) and 986 Boxster) I managed to undercut the factory quoted times by around 0.3 to 0.8 seconds. Not in this one, though. Not in a million years. Of course you may say that other / earlier 911s are even more tail-happy and you are probably right (I have yet to drive a 1960s or early 70s 911 myself) BUT those were either MUCH less powerful or - if they at least get close to the 930s first series' 250 hp (like the holy grail of 911s, the Carrera RS) they had much narrower tyres and a much more linear supply of power. o if you are a haöf-decent experienced driver you will know where it starts to get a bit skittish. You will need a sensitive foot on the throttle, yes, definitely. But the Carrera RS won't asassinate you the way a recklessly driven 930 turbo will. In short: If it's adrenalin you're after: Get a 930 today. If you want anything else to go along with that adrenalin, you may want to have a look around at other models. ;-)

@AB-80X

2 жыл бұрын

Not really. Have had two and will not have another. My thought is always that people who say it's the Porsche to have, or the best 911 etc. are the people who have not lived with one.

@socaljarhead7670

Ай бұрын

I used to destroy 930 Turbos in a 1957 VW Oval window with a 2 liter and 48 IDA Webers. Stoplight to stoplight that is.😉

My dad had a 914 that we were always working on….it was the car I learned how to drive in so I have soft spot for it.

As a Porsche 993 (1996) owner, and subber, you, sir, are correct and I respect your evaluation entirely!

I owned my first 1984 928 S in 1990 i was 23 years old. The car was the most reliable Porsche made. All you had to do do a timing belt service when it is due. If you don’t and the timing belt broke do not worry because the 928 S has non interference engine. That is not the case in the 928 S4 because it is an interference engine, so you have to make sure to do the timing maintenance on time. I drove my 928 S for years and the maintenance was tires, brakes/rotors, oil change ...... like any other car if you do the maintenance. I disagree with the car wizard on this particular one. But that is his own opening and I respect that. I currently own 1984 928S and 1989 928 S4 and both are in excellent running condition and fun to drive.

@ericbitzer5247

Жыл бұрын

I disagree with him on the 928. That's the Porche I would want. They look like nothing else.

@ericbitzer5247

Жыл бұрын

@port nut I know the price of parts is terrible, but we have the internet and you tube now for figuring things out. If they can fix my eyes next year and I can drive again, I'm probably going for a pre 1992 or 3 Mercedes when they were still analog cars. However I would love a 928 if I found one that was well sorted and not skyrocketed price.

Hey Wizard & Mrs Wizard, I really enjoy these buy this don't buy that videos!! I hope you do more of them!!! 👍👍😁

@md2k8

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed.

I have a 2007 Cayman with a standard transmission. Now I need to try a 2009 with a PDK!! I agree with everything Mr. Wizard proclaimed.

The Panamera with V6 and AWS and WITHOUT air suspension is a terrific car, reliable, and a steal if bought in well maintained condition. I have owned the 964 and the 993. Would love to have a nice Panamera...especially at current bargain basement prices. Also, the 996 or 997...but I would convert the IMS bearing to the IMS bushing, using an after-market kit.

my brother in law still has his 914/6 - he's had it since 86, I think. Still going strong with 180k on the clock. I found and rebuilt a 964 (C4) that is a hoot to drive. I wouldn't have been able to pay someone else to do the work, but I've been at this for decades, so it wasn't that difficult. You get to know them and where to find parts, and it gets much smoother.

@esfitnesspro2455

2 жыл бұрын

964 & 993 are cream of the crop for 911's

That's a veeeery thorough disclaimer there at the beginning. If I had to guess, I would say it's probably because of the reactions to that Frankenporsche with the Corvette engine in it.

I loved my 986, but I bought it with a bad IMS. Thank god this thing was based on the 911, it was not hard to swap in a 996 X51 engine in it and do a Pedro's IMS retrofit to keep me from staying awake at night. It was an Ebay engine but it lasted from 55,000 miles to 240,000 miles.

a lot of knowledge, thank you Car Wizard! :)

I picked up a '76 914 (2.0 liter) from the back of the dealer's lot many years ago for $150. Shift mechanism was totally out of whack, it had numerous coats of paint, now peeling down to the rusty metal. But it was actually fast. The 2.0 was a nice unit and in that lightweight car, moved it along nicely. In fact, for several months after buying it and sorting it out, I thought the speedo was reading 20MPH too high- turns out it wasn't. How I didn't get a ticket during that time is a mystery. If you do want one, find a CA version with no rust (if possible).

I used to dislike the Panamera, until I drove a GTS and it is an amazing car.

@harrisonsiegel9536

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed, my family had a 2014 GTS and it was awesome. Also, the Wizard doesn't realize how much more spacious they are compared to the Taycan. I have endless room in the Panamera, but in the Taycan my head touches the ceiling at 6 foot.

@betterbeavailable

2 жыл бұрын

Panameras are great cars and the newer models look gorgeous. The ultimate family car.

@MrNanah38

2 жыл бұрын

You should drive the turbo, oh boy its fast.

@phillipbaggio7915

2 жыл бұрын

@@harrisonsiegel9536 That's interesting. What about the Taycan Cross Turismo wagon? Is the headroom any better with that?

@Kinyosan1

2 жыл бұрын

I'm owning a Panamera 4S. This is the best car I have ever owned.

Could listen to him all day. So authentic.

Great video! I am a huge Porsche fan, especially the 911: I have more than 1500 die cast Porsche cars, R&T mags, etc. None of what you said upsets me. It is additional information from people with experience. Thanks!

Great episode. Your opinions made sense to me. I think I'd buy a Boxster or Cayman over a 911 in the more recent model years too. Right now the 718 GT4.0 with the 4L six and a stick shift is the Porsche to buy. Tall gears, but I'd rather change the gear set if it really upsets me.

@sutherlacd27

Жыл бұрын

718 gts 4.0 and gt4 are both fantastic. I'd still go 911 turbo myself but that's just because of my intended use.

I agree with you on the Cayman S! One of my favorite Porsche designs. Looked into getting one last year. But went with a 2003 Corvette Z06.

@christophercolumbus8944

Жыл бұрын

what? ? ? lol that's for people who can't aford 911 that's so obvious you buy 911 to SHOW OFF it's about status

@sutherlacd27

Жыл бұрын

@@christophercolumbus8944 lol no. I got a 911 for the performance that is also nice to daily drive

We had a 2000 boxster. A really nice driving car. You have to have the defective bearing replaced which we did then no worries. We gave it to our nephew who now enjoys driving it in Boise Idaho.

On point! Thanks for the video.

Some day I want a 914 and 928, So unique and quarky. I know they are not fast or the best but they are neat and have a bunch of interesting design in them. I would just enjoy running them around town, not really at the track. :) Daily driver lol nope, thank you car wizard.

Car Wizard, spot on. My 06 Cayman S is the most fun and capable daily I’ve everything driven. Max fun for $25k imho

@QuickQuips

2 жыл бұрын

Dang. I don't think any 987 are that price any more.

@armatar

2 жыл бұрын

I got my '06 Cayman S for $20K with 65000 miles on it 2 years ago. I hardly ever drive my other cars anymore. I love it.

@Mylocksflop

2 жыл бұрын

Got my 2010 cayman S pdk sport chrono 2 years ago for $26k. Great car

@SI0AX

2 жыл бұрын

@@armatar Do you have to drop the engine to change spark plugs since it's mid-engine? Like what maintenance stuff requires the engine to be out?

@armatar

2 жыл бұрын

@@SI0AX you can get to most things without dropping the engine. Plugs are reachable from the sides once I have it up on the quickjack with the wheels off, the top engine cover comes off for the air filter and other things, and front engine cover comes off behind the seats for belts, quite amazing really.

Hi from Portugal. First video i watch from you. You are the kind of guy i like to hear opinions, even when i dont agree. Just keep being you.

We drove the new Macon, my wife said the same as Wizard. We bought a 2019 Cayenne. Love it

Having owned multiple aircooled 911s, and a 914-6 for 43 years (it was trouble free and sold for over $90,000), so not all 914s were bad deals. I do agree with most of your opinions however (especially about how small the Macans are). Nice to hear from someone who deals with their problems routinely.

@BOULDERGEEK

2 жыл бұрын

>> 914-6 for 43 years ENVY. That would have been lovely.

@HowdySBC

Жыл бұрын

The Macan is a lot roomier than the 911 or small 914. Calling a Macan small is, well a matter of comparision. I guess it's all relative. I have had a 912, two 914 and two Macans and driven my father's 356 show cars (which are just special vehicles in every way). I just love the Macans. Not too big or too small. And our Turbo Macan definitely runs circles around my 912 or 914s. Nothing wrong with 912 or 914 or any aircooled Porsche. Fantastic cars; specially in their time. But technologies move forward. Now I can have a hoot of a car that outruns all my older cars and still make Costco runs -- and with luxury that no aircooled Porsche ever had.

@sp00kyd4ddy6

Жыл бұрын

What do you think I'd have to pay for an old 911 thats been sitting for years in the elements

1998 944S - owned and cherished for 30years - immaculate totally reliable and still turns heads with Carrera Cup alloys - part of my appreciating pension pot!! Keep the faith Wizard

@drush3452

2 жыл бұрын

Do you mean 1989?

The honesty is what keeps me tuned in ! Wish you were local in WI

Appreciate your video. I'm in the market for a panamera. I think the styling isn't for everyone but I would like a hybrid family car thats fast and stylish. Either that or the Audi A7. But I get goosebumps everytime I see the panameras especially the new ones.

I respect you CarWizard and I too recognise the inevitable ushering in of more and more hybrids and electric vehicles. However, for a lot of us, internal combustion engines, oil changes etc… Well, it doesn’t matter that electric obliterates them in performance and speed. It means more to us to own them, drive them, enjoy them and work on them then having an electric car that out performs them.

@sutherlacd27

Жыл бұрын

I prefer the experience of ICE vehicles over EVs myself. With that said when it comes to performance it's important that ICE vehicles can be modified to beat any EV if desired.

@cruiser6260

11 ай бұрын

@@sutherlacd27 only by putting in an engine from a nitro burning top fueller drag car with 1200hp.. at maybe 1mpg

@sutherlacd27

11 ай бұрын

@@cruiser6260 lol a modified r8 driven on the street is faster than the world's fastest purpose built electric drag car

@cruiser6260

11 ай бұрын

@@sutherlacd27 I see the best R8 has basically the same 0-60mph , 1/4 mile and torque as the Taycan. I found the fastest modified R8 with 3000hp (5x more power than standard) set a 7.695 1/4 mile and the fastest EV set a 7.48.

I love the 928s. My dad had one in the early 90s. 0-60 5.7 seconds. I think they look cool. He was a Porsche and VAG foreman technician though so worked on it himself

@andrewb4470

2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree. Car Wizard talks absolute nonsense. I had an S and S4 and they were both awesome, fast, (I reached 257kph in my S4 with plenty to spare!), are very comfortable with extremely high build quality as you know. The later models have also aged very well. They are expensive to maintain, but so are many sports cars.

@utopiafail

2 жыл бұрын

He's completely out of his mind talking about the 928. My dad has a silver one and it's beautiful. He gets asked all the time if it's a new car and it's fast! Unreal engineering. Dumb opinion.

@simonmiles8315

2 жыл бұрын

@@andrewb4470 my 1987 928S4 with 165, 000km costs less in maintenance and repairs than my 2010 Mercedes c200cgi which has had so many failures and only 40,000km. My 928 is a joy to own and drive which is why I have kept if for 27 years.

@andrewb4470

2 жыл бұрын

@@simonmiles8315 Thank you for your reply, Simon. Your S4 sounds excellent and you have been wise to keep it! Mine was also an '87 model, manual gearbox, silver blue in colour with midnight blue interior. I also imported the teardrop mirrors which made it look even better, hard to believe as that is! I unfortunately had to sell it as I relocated overseas. Wish I still had it as I enjoyed it immensely. What colour is yours, if I may ask?

@simonmiles8315

2 жыл бұрын

@@andrewb4470 mine is also silver with dark blue interior. It is a joy everytime I get behind the wheel even after so many years. The Wizard has no right to tell the world "just dont buy one" based on his limited experience. The 928 was in production for 17 years. A long time for "such a bad car"..🙄

Great video as always!! I would like to ask your opinion on a base 2.5 Boxster 986?

Great video, Wizard. Really appreciate your honest, sincere talk. Thanks for keeping it real!

painful, all the not to buy cars are the Porsche's I've been in. Also the Wizard is (unsurprisingly) right on the money.

@roygardiner4002

2 жыл бұрын

Not on the 928 he isn't. You can't assess a 928 until you've done a few thousand miles in one.

@jacobw8849

2 жыл бұрын

Come on man. If given a choice with unlimited money (like he did with the 911 RS from the 70s) you are NOT going to take a Boxster over any 911 from the 90s and there are some incredible 911s in the 90s.

@morganvon5664

2 жыл бұрын

The Boxster S did not even exist in the 90's - just the boxster. His recommendation to buy a 1974 RS 3.0 is laughable. They are even rarer than a Carrera GT - and the price is about a million.

@jacobw8849

2 жыл бұрын

@@morganvon5664 that being said, how sweet would it be to have a 74 RS? I wonder if Wizard would convert one to a tip if he did get his hands on one. 🤔

@codyquann8171

2 жыл бұрын

No 959😞😂

The 928 is the first production car ever with a rack on a flush aerodynamic roof, common nowadays but unheard of back then

Couldn't agree with you more about the 2009 Cayman. Bought one a few years ago and its an amazing vehiclel

Love your honesty. Love your channel.

928 are great cars - I've owned 6 of them. You just need to know what you are getting into, like any used Porsche. Cheap to buy, expensive to keep running properly and in good shape. Try and keep them running on a budget - and you will have a non-running 928. Parts are very expensive and many repairs take hours to complete. The newest one is now ~26 years old so beware - they are complicated cars with lots of things that simply are gone due to age. Once sorted and taken care of they are really cool cars. Nice, later model GT/GTS examples are skyrocketing in price.

@andrewb4470

2 жыл бұрын

Very true. Car Wizard shows his ignorance by saying 'all 928's are junk'. That is utter nonsense and untrue. I've owned an S and S4, and as we both know they are awesome to drive with extremely high build quality. They are expensive to maintain, but so are many high-end sports cars. I would buy a GTS any day if I could find one in my area.

@1983dmd

2 жыл бұрын

928 GTS manual !! Yes sir!!!

I always like the "Buy this, Not that" series and value the advice. I am 70 years old, and recently drove the Taycan, and build wise, tech wise, and perceived quality wise, it is the most amazing car I have ever driven. My assumption is that there will be some of the these Gen 1 versions with low milage available resale market as the range improves on the newer versions.

@davidquinn9676

Жыл бұрын

New battery tech could make it very good to get an old one and put new batteries in, if Porsche can be hacked to do that.

@sutherlacd27

Жыл бұрын

The taycan turbo s was excellent when I was in one right as they were delivered to the dealership. However I think that the 911 turbo is the best overall car that porsche makes.

I gotta say, wizard's right on the money here. my daily driver is a 2011 cayman s with pdk, have had next to no problems with the car. just scheduled maintenance. reliable, just the right amount of power, can lug around a surprising amount of stuff, and a head turner. maybe a future classic.

You are spot on with all the cars! Even a year after!

Was really surprised with the result, with the exception of the 914, fully agree with all the options you made. Why I disagree with 914? Even if underpowered is still a good fun car. Low seating position and roadster make up for the lack of hp. Budget wise they didn't make sense until recently, but as old porsche values goes up, these will go as well and those barn cars will become collectibles. No 70s car will be competitive to anything recent anyways.

@squid148

2 жыл бұрын

I just always thought the 914 was a VW with a different body on it. I also agree that most of them aren’t running anymore.

@ryanyarboroughmusic

2 жыл бұрын

@@squid148 You are not wrong. My 73 914-4 was built in the VW Karmann plant

@yudodat1630

2 жыл бұрын

The type 4 VW engines that went into 914s were much higher specs than the VW version. 914 engines has better connecting rods, bearings, heads on the 2 liter has 3 studs instead of 4 with much better valves. The Mazda Miata never came w a huge engine. It's all about the chassis balance and handling. Any 914 can out handle a base model 911 from the same era. However, when you drive a 914-6, not only you can out handle, but you can surpass any 911 if the 914-6 has the same spec of engine in that comparable 911. And that's a fact!

I'd take a 914 over a 924 any day of the week...and the 914-6 with the 2.0L 911 engine is a nice car by any measure.

@josephhertzberg2734

Жыл бұрын

Definitely agree

@justayoutuber1906

10 ай бұрын

lol forgot about the 924

Loved this vid thanks

Great review - I agree with most if not all conclusions - 👍🏻

I really like your practical approach on why you didn’t get a Taycan. The day will come where fast charging plugs become common place but we’re not quite there… yet.

@morganvon5664

2 жыл бұрын

We're not even close to there. Plus, the faster you charge, the quicker the battery degrades. Some progress.

@joeracer302

2 жыл бұрын

I’d like to know long term reliability with the expected cost of battery replacement being so high.

@L0VEGL0VE

2 жыл бұрын

It's a different paradigm altogether, y'all. Your house is your gas station. Every time you get home, you plug in the car. My Fiat 500E only goes 80-90 miles on a charge and I've never used a public charger in the year I've owned it. Current EV's aren't the best solution for some people, but for most folks' average daily use, they're hard to beat.

@kodywillnauer9422

2 жыл бұрын

@@L0VEGL0VE Yeah, I own a 2013 S. Battery capacity has gone down a bit over the years, but I average about 3.5 cents a mile with my electric rate. Sometimes when I drive I can get it down to about 2.5 cents a mile.

I own a 2009 boxster S pdk for half the price of equivalent 911! And drives fantastic, handling awesome 👌

Great reports are ere here…I have a Boxster S and agree with the man❤❤

You are spot on! Thank you

You're absolutely right, except for the 996, those laid the foundation of modern Porsches. The 996 Turbo S is a beast!!! And don't forget the le mans cars 996 GT1 etc...

Recently drive a low mile Macan with the 2.0T and it was probably one of the most fun cars I’ve driven, especially with that PDK.

@HowdySBC

Жыл бұрын

The Turbo will knock your socks off. And used, is quite a value. The 3.6 engine is a lot stronger and, at least for us, proven to be ulta reliable.

I was also super excited for pure electric cars some 2 years ago, not so much now, since there is so much dirty work in the electric cars getting the cobalt and other materials to produce the batteries and an electric car is definitely not "green" , and yes, charging it is a nightmare for most of the people.

My 08 Boxster S was a blast and not that expensive to maintain. The 01 Turbo I have now is way more to maintain for sure.