Hahahahaha that whole pricing section! Lord - mic drop. Well done. So funny about not killing the beautiful strap. Great review

As a trail and ultra runner who used to wear Grit X Pro under heavy load for almost 2 years, this is a confirmation that I made the right choice moving away from Polar before waiting for the Grit X2 Pro to come out. I can be at peace with a smile on my face. Firstly, it looks like a Garmin flagship watches, and IMO, the Grit X Pro, especially the Titanium version looked better. At least it was different. The Silicon strap looks the same as it was for the Grit X Pro and it was heavy and felt behind the competitor's straps. If it's the same then- meh. And the back of the watch is still made out of plastic? Suunto Vertical has a steel or titanium back with an HR sensor built in it and there's so little plastic in the watch which for me, makes it feel like a premium product and you see and feel what you paid for. I'm saying that because of the price which is, yea.. No need to even go there. I moved back to Suunto, mainly because of the simplicity, design, premium looks, and durability even if Garmin is probably the best brand out there with many models to choose from. I was a Suunto user for 7 years, then got tired of the brand fell behind the competition, and moved to Polar which was a disappointing experience, including the customer support. Tried Garmin for 1 month, including a 100mi race and experience, performance was amazing but I just didn't like the complexity of their ecosystem and I'm simply not a fan of the design as I have to wear the watch every day. Thankfully, Suunto had stepped up with their watches and I moved back and bought the Suunto Vertical Titanium over Race model because of the exceptional battery life that AMOLED displays can't provide and the design that felt more outdoorsy and more rugged yet very simple and sleek. I'm super happy with my decision and I feel like I could live with Suunto Vertical for years. It ticks every box for an ultra runner that goes out for long and adventurous days. And there are so many beautiful, light, and breathable straps to choose from. Went too deep into my comment but maybe it will help someone to choose their next watch better as they are not a cheap peace of equipment to buy. :)

@anthonyrampino7734

21 күн бұрын

Great info. I keep trying to choose between Suunto Garmin Epix 2 pro, fenix 7 pro an now this polar looks great too. They are all a lot of money. Plus the ecosystem are different.

Since some years ago… Polar’s CEO have been the best Garmin’s CEO ever.

The heart rate correction features is WILD! Fair play Polar, fair play. What’s even WILDER though is the Price!? Pretty crazy considering the price you can get a Garmin Epix and Suunto Race 🙈 Nice video Ray! 🔥

That Madeira trip looks promising!

Love my Grit X Pro Titan- the old design is much more cooler from the design, except maybe the new wristband which is quite nice but not my color. How you want explain to an old costumer to go for the new Grit X2 Titan for crazy 869,90? The new Display? Some new sweet features? The old display is great and I have no problems in daylight, where I normally train. I use my mobile phone to navigate if I really need navigation and the old model also tracks the way and data very well. So where is extra value I get when I buy the new model? A lot of Polar lovers will stay with the older models and some other people will buy the older model "in sale" like the Polar Grit X Pro Titan for 390.- Euro- a beauty! Greets to the CEO of Polar. ;)

@liviughitulescu9889

2 ай бұрын

I love the Grit X Pro Titan too❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤Is from far the best because is not charged with extra junk...More compact and more from every aspect: looks very good and works amazing at least! I used it in the hardest gym conditions with tpe protection and wristband over it and is the best buddy....Is like the Casio G Shock GA100 that is way better than mudmasters because is more simple and more compact..Is same ecuation...I'll keep mine and is brand new!

I bought a new Polar Grit X Pro Titanium for my birthday that was on 17th march and i made the best movement! Has the best size, design,ergonomy, best sensor because is a Precission Prime(not the new sensor) and the phone creates everything in it perfectly.....The new watch is a panel on the hand and who wants an amoled on such a small device? I wear it in hardest gym conditions with tpe protection and wristband over and is from far the best partner....And outside i walked in rain and snow and is from far the best smartwatch for hard working guys for wellness and sports.......Is far from being outdated Polar Grit X Pro, exactly how a Polar expert wrote me on my facebook messenger when i asked this....I love this amazing watch from all the points of view from far❤

Agree with you on the price. That's Crazy! Not my price tag as much as i love it i guess my Grit X Pro Titan has to hold a little bit longer.

I have never been so entertained by Ray as when he was speechless about the price 🤣

I worked in sales and while there are always customers who will buy products no matter the price, the majority will just not pay it, considering there is a very similar featured Suunto Race for 449.- or the Forerunner 955.

Although I was waiting for the new version of Grit X, I couldn't resist and bought the Apple Watch Ultra 2 recently. After this announcement, I am considering returning to Polar with the new Grit X2. As a long-time Polar user (RS800CX, V800, Grit X), I am accustomed to the simplicity of the Polar interface. Regarding the price vs. features, the fewer yet more focused features make the user happier. Personal taste and preference play a role when making a choice. Yes, I am biased toward Polar. Regarding the weight, as mentioned in some other comments, there is a Vantage V3 for those looking for a lightweight version. This is an adventure watch. It is supposed to be used abusively. It is supposed to give a rugged feeling. Maybe that's why the base version uses the steel case, not the aluminum one. Regarding the steep price of the Titan version, it looks more like a way for the owner to express the status than to buy the count of features. Something similar is observable with other watches, like the classical ones, which have just a few features like the time of day and date (which has to be adjusted once a month), yet are still quite expensive. I agree with Polar's bet that the price/feature ratio might not be the most important one for some buyers, as that is not a rational decision anyway, whether it is this or another brand like with the AWU2. Aside from that, when wearing the Grit X, it was not rare that I was asked about the model of the watch, which clearly looked distinctive compared to the masses by its look, not features. Nobody is asking such questions now when I have AWU. I guess no Garmin user gets asked, either. If given a chance, I would swap my fresh AWU2 for the Titan. Still have to agree that need to wait for that firmware update first. :)

Let's put it this way. There is no immediate risk of me considering going from Garmin to Polar any day soon.

@dcrainmaker are you coming to Madeira island for MIUT? If you need anything while here at the island feel free to ask! Thanks for your reviews!

Hi, did Polar said something about the HR monitor working with tattoos on the wrist!? Thank you!!!

Thinking either this or the epix 2 pro, i do use tbd H10 strap. Atm i use an AW ultra but thinking i want something more fitness orientated.

£649 which isn't _as_ bad. But wow. Out of curiosity... does the "making up the HR values" feature only work with the optical sensor, or with a HR strap as well?

Still no Training Peaks structured workouts?

That whole retroactive application of HR data just makes me think, wear a chest strap lol.

Does the maps use any standard format, so we can load our own maps?

Are you going to Madeira to test it? MIUT? Nice place to do it!!!

I think this might be a clever move. The intention is not to sell this watch but to generate intrest in the v3. At the same time people will be watching this video and asking why the price? Polar lost me a long time ago and it is not even close vs Garmin and the rest of the competition.

Hey have you thought of making video comparing the brands as whole instead of single products? I would be very interested what you think about the ecosystems and brands as whole. Polar, Garmin, Suunto mainly.. :P

@stevendeckert6373

Ай бұрын

Polar does the mid-priced or budget running and tri watches really well, the pacer and pacer pro are great values. Garmin has way more features, but imo most of them aren't something most people would actually want to pay for and their cheaper watches have less important features than the pacer pro. Suunto does ultrarunning best out of the three imo. Coros is also a consideration especially for a mid priced running watch or ultrarunning watch.

Also - it looks so much like the Amazfit T-Rex Ultra and now I can't unsee it

@ultrarunnerEST

2 ай бұрын

I thought the same. And I have been Polar Fanboy for years. But I'm with Suunto now. Sad, but Suuntos soul still feels somewhat pure.

@fitgearhunter

2 ай бұрын

@@ultrarunnerEST completely. The Race is such an incredible watch top to bottom for the price. (Except the sensor)

@Dcrainmaker

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, I thought the same, but tried very hard not to say it.

@seanvk

2 ай бұрын

@@fitgearhunterAgree. That sensor is seriously unusable.

Don't forget, it is indeed possible to go outdoors and do sports without any electronics.

@juha2031

2 ай бұрын

You can actually do a workout without a watch, but you don't get any healt benefits then :D

@xleocor

2 ай бұрын

Blasphemy!!

@NADIR_ALMO2AYID

2 ай бұрын

Sacrilege!! How dare you!!

@ashleyjohansson230

2 ай бұрын

Dont forget its indeed possible to go outdoors and do sports without clothes, shoes, maps, sun protection, etc 🤭

@joggerino3284

2 ай бұрын

@@ashleyjohansson230 Wearing clothes is a widespread tradition in the civilized world and wearing sunscreen is recommended by physicians or the sCieNCe 😘

Priceless 😂

When do you come out with the in depth review on the GXP2?

@Dcrainmaker

26 күн бұрын

Very very very shortly, I hope.

@hanstenberg

26 күн бұрын

@@Dcrainmaker Thanks!!!😃

So, it costs more than Apple Watch Ultra?! Or Garmin Fenix 7? Why would you buy that?

The Titan...Man a Beautiful watch, finally something that looks a bit more professional that you can workout in and wear on your wrist in professional settings and I love Polar but Dude...The Price. Ah inflation!!!! WT HECK

@bittiapina

2 ай бұрын

I recon because they're not as big as Garmin, they have to pay more for parts so in order to make at least some kind of profit they need to bump up the price. Polar is a lot smaller a company than something like Garmin for example. People were yearning for more features like the Garmin watches have. Now we got them but unfortunately they come with a heavy price.

Ray, the price point for this watch will have consumers thinking whether to get the suunto race, or the original epix gen 2 which garmin nearly slash it by half

Imagine this watch, but without the AMOLED, but added an updated MIP-screen on this watch. It would have taken the battery beyond or similar to Suuntos Vertical. They could have lowered the price and make a marketing banger. Or at least something that will make people interested of moving over to Polar. And, we have to talk more about the prices - what ever brand it is. Garmin Fenix/Enduro etc are also extremely overpriced. It's getting out of hand. Thanks Ray.

Real life comparisons between this, Garmin Epix and Apple Watch Ultra, please!

Can it do notifications like text messages?

@KC-UT4rmAZ

2 ай бұрын

Yes it can.

Any sign of the final review DC ?

@Dcrainmaker

Ай бұрын

Today's task. Probably finishing tomorrow. Written is done, but working on the video side.

@donalgibson317

Ай бұрын

@@Dcrainmaker Cheers. If accuracy is up there am tempted, if not..... still not convinced it's worth it but it's a beautiful watch so might make up for it.

The heart rate sensor on Vantage V3 sucks and Polar still won't release new firmware to fix the heart rate issue.🙄Then I realised that Grit X2 Pro uses the same sensor, if you know what I mean. One more look at the price of Grit X2 Pro and I laughed out loud.🤣🤣🤣

Hoppla. Polar venturing in Garmin Fenix crazy price territory. 😮

Haha!! As a long time Polar wearer, I’ll NEVER buy this watch at that price point. The VV3 for $600USD was laughable but this is just sad.

Yeah, but how does it compare to the Fenix 8? 😉

Can this watch be used for playing tennis or padel indoor ?

@juha2031

2 ай бұрын

From my experience you'll need a racket. Watch is just too small.

@jacekdk

2 ай бұрын

@@juha2031read with understanding 👍 can you ? 😅

Hope they bring save locations to there watches! POI

Features don't matter. It's about brand and quality. This watch is more expensive than the Vantage v3 because it makes the latter feel like a bargain. It's also cheaper than Garmin flagship models, not to mention watched like Breitling that have zero features. So in my opinion one should blame the salesmen if they couldn't get people to buy these watches.

Shouldn't the review be online now? And the update for the Vantage V3 too?

@Dcrainmaker

Ай бұрын

Polar has delayed release of both a few weeks.

@krns1617

Ай бұрын

@@Dcrainmaker Thank you for the clarification. I awaited them already eagerly :)

@ralphdeherdt42

Ай бұрын

I was notified the pre-order would ship next week. Has there been another delay?@@Dcrainmaker

@Dcrainmaker

Ай бұрын

@@ralphdeherdt42 Ahh, I see, the e-mail mentions "Week 15", versus April 15th. Either way, they do specify through till April 12th as the new date range, but have told media to wait until further confirmation, in case that changes.

@krns1617

Ай бұрын

​@@Dcrainmakerat least Polar released just now the new update for the Vantage V3. Maybe a sign that the Grit X 2 Pro will go on sale very soon.

Might be a good watch, especially for those, who are already in the Polar ecosystem. But no reason at all to switch from another brand. And the price tag ist just crazy. 😳

I returned my Vantage 3 because of awful HR reading and unreliable offline maps. Basically the only 2 features I care about in sport watches. This one has the same sensor! And I do not believe to fairytales about next firmware that fixes everything. Releasing such an expensive device and fix problems later is unacceptable. And Good Lord - PRICE, do they look at their competitors even occasionally? I was thinking that AWU was overpriced, but Polar overshot even greedy Apple.

Polar is just helping Suunto to sell more Race watches:) . isn't that lovely?

@KC-UT4rmAZ

2 ай бұрын

Literally what crossed my mind. They must have a deal with Suunto 😂

V epix 2 pro?

No Altitude acclimation, no Barometer/Storm alarm? Lacking features

Thanks Ray, I'll get a fénix

Why Polar? How will you convince anyone to leave Garmin?

lines of code is not a metric you should be using to judge the performance.

@toadlguy

2 ай бұрын

Particularly 20,000 lines … for an algorithm … on a watch. It is no wonder they can’t get it accurate in real time. 😂 That is not something a software developer would be proud of, which sort of suggests a disconnect between the marketing/executive and the people writing the code.

@vikexp

2 ай бұрын

@@toadlguy you could also have 20000 lines of bloated crap, also what a wild time we are living in when a single watch is doing more computation every second compared to spaceships in the 70s. I am not against the watch itself, just that one marketing point needs to be removed.

At a glance I thought I was seeing a Garmin Fenix

Really no compelling reasons here to give Polar a try

AMOLED display is super nice. Too bad it's too much like wearing a phone on your wrist. Hope they keep making MIP display watches. If not, at least ill save some good cash by not chasing the latest watch. 😀👍my 955 solar should last for another 10 years 🤞

For all of you comparing the Polar Grit X2 Pro Titan with Garmin watches, please compare it to the MARQ® Adventurer (Gen 2). No other Garmin watch (except the MARQ collection) has a full titanium case. The Fenix, Epix, Forerunner 965 have a polymer case. The MARQ watches are overpriced (starting at 2100$). So the Polar Grit X2 Pro is a much cheaper alternative.

@Dcrainmaker

2 ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@stanipovo

2 ай бұрын

I don‘t understand where the funny part is. The watches are not comparable because of what? Quality of build? Feature set?

@Dcrainmaker

2 ай бұрын

@@stanipovo The Grit X2 pro case isn't a "full titanium case". Only the bezel + sidewalls. Not the entire bottom plate of the watch (like MARQ is). Sure, that's more than the sidewalls of Epix titanium, but the the Garmin watch literally has 500-700 more features, and better accuracy. Oh - and it's still cheaper (right now $599USD for the Epix Titanium edition).

@stanipovo

2 ай бұрын

Thank you for the answer.

@amyeb8362

Ай бұрын

@@Dcrainmakeryou don’t need to be rude. You could’ve just explained.

you had a pvc in your ecg

@Dcrainmaker

2 ай бұрын

Fun tidbit: In the middle of shooting that, I was concurrently yelling towards the hotel room door as the cleaners kept trying to come in...despite being 8AM.

£649 which is £50 more than the Garmin FR965. My 965 has fantastic battery life but is otherwise a failure. I bought the Garmin hype. Anyone in the UK want to buy my 965 ? Any reasonable offers accepted so I can afford to switch back to Polar

I know nobody cares about ant+ but i still need ant+ along with blte on my watches

I have both the old Polar Grit X and Garmin fenix 7. IMO Polar has much better sleep tracking, nicer/simpler UI and reports and the basics work well. Polar can track different swim styles which the fenix can't do, at least out of the box. Garmin has in general waay better features and a lots more stuff, better gps accuracy and, for me, about the same hr accuracy. Garmin has IMO better recovery tools. However, they are based on inaccurate (overly positive) sleep data so I don't know if I can rely on them I have to say I'm impressed with Polar, but too expensive for me

$750?? I will be keeping my Forerunner 955 Thanks.

I have been in the Polar ecosystem forever and have used the first gen Grit X since 2020. I was excited to see this release, but the price is exactly the same as an Apple Watch Ultra 2 in Canada, a watch that does a lot more. Now I will wait to see what the Series 10 looks like in the Fall.

@GenjoKoan75

2 ай бұрын

Apple makes extremely expensive disposable watches. When it fails the repair bill exceeds the price new. Electronic waste. Might last five years if you are lucky.

@DMcC123

2 ай бұрын

@@GenjoKoan75 I hadn’t heard about the reliability issues. I will definitely look into it before any purchase. Thanks!

Uhm, they wanted to wanted to issue a challenge?

Looks nicer than a garmin but the no music option will make me never buy a polar

OMG

Stopped watching at 21 hours battery life on full GPS mode ... lol, i guess Polar still needs a lot of catchin up to do, sadly. Otherwise the watch looks cool.

@juha2031

2 ай бұрын

I guess the marginal group that do over 20 hour exercises are not the main goal for Polar...

I own a polar grit x pro and it's disappointing to know that these software/firmware upgrades are not coming to older generation of watches. companies like polar ditching their products just couple of years after they are released is super annoying. Garmin is way better in this regard

The auto-correction of HR is fire... Wish Garmin would implement such thing-

@Zimou_98

2 ай бұрын

Do they need to, though? What´s there to correct?

@SteevyTable

2 ай бұрын

@@Zimou_98 Out of thousands of cycling miles, I think I have seen the heartrate on my Vivoactive 3 go wonky for like 5 minutes once. Yes, I know I should be using something other than a lifestyle wristwatch as my heartrate monitor, but dang it, it works and pairs to an Edge computer fine so I can't justify buying another thingy.

Suunto vertical

My garmin enduro 2 is still going strong 💅

@clitaiulian4497

2 ай бұрын

Mine too :)

Strava thing shouldnt even be mentioned if its locked behind a paywall. I bought a watch, and now i want to use a feature of the watch but now i have to pay montly fee to use it.. aint gonna happen. With that price they should give a two year strava subscription also.

The price...RIP

No thanks, I’ll stick with Garmin and wait for the Fenix 8.

@daveys

2 ай бұрын

I actually thought it was a Garmin product until I started watching the video!

I buy a garmin

This may just be the most badass price we’ve ever made...

For the price and the features no thank you Polar🤣

The price is the joke, maybe they made mistake?

Pantalla 1,39 pulgadas pffff 🤦🏻‍♂️

No sane person would pay that amount of money for this device. I would think twice to buy a Polar watch over a Garmin even at Us.400 price point

AMOLED is a waste of everyone's time and battery

I love Polar but they are both falling behind the times and their sales guy needs to be fired. Moved to the Forerunner 965 until they get it together again

Nope!!! Way too much money.

Omg.. good stuff, but speak less please