Pirelli Night Dragons First Impressions

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Pirelli Night Dragons vs Metzeler Cruisetecs
Rebel 1100 Tires.
Rear brake pads install video:
• Rebel 1100 Rear brake ...
Metzeler Cruistec tires video:
• Metzeler Cruistec tire...
Metzeler Cruisetecs on race track:
• Rebel 1100: Racetrack ...
00:00 Intro
01:53 First ride
05:05 Cruise control problem
07:40 Numb hands & feet
08:20 High speed
08:44 Honestly
10:17 Favorite road
12:48 Fast twisties
14:50 Results
#rebel1100 #hondarebel1100 #metzeler #pirelli

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  • @michelleassuras8277
    @michelleassuras827711 ай бұрын

    I appreciate your technical skills, and how you relate your intuition and gut feeling analysis.

  • @ontherebel11

    @ontherebel11

    11 ай бұрын

    Thank you Michelle! I really appreciate your kind words 🙏

  • @edmondthompson1523
    @edmondthompson152311 ай бұрын

    I really like your reviews, wrench work, and enthusiasm.

  • @ontherebel11

    @ontherebel11

    11 ай бұрын

    Thank you Edmond! 🙏

  • @whammo11224
    @whammo1122411 ай бұрын

    Thank you for the review! As a new rebel owner, I may pop in here from time to time with questions to pose!

  • @ontherebel11

    @ontherebel11

    11 ай бұрын

    Congratulations on getting the Rebel 1100! Please ask away, we grow and help the community this way! 🤙

  • @whammo11224

    @whammo11224

    11 ай бұрын

    @@ontherebel11 Thank you

  • @RollWithSoul317
    @RollWithSoul31711 ай бұрын

    Great to see another one of your awesome videos! Those were breathtaking views and the entire ride was very scenic. In my opinion the tires might require a longer break in period! The cruise control not working properly is a little disconcerting to me, but ultimately it just seemed like a temporary glitch. Thank you for another awesome video, see you on the next one. 🏍️💨 👍🏾

  • @ontherebel11

    @ontherebel11

    11 ай бұрын

    Thanks bro, I appreciate your encouraging words man! In the 3 years I've had the bike, this was the only time I've experienced the cruise control doing that, I'm glad it was caught on camera so we can possibly learn what cause it, right before the light went out, the rpms dipped ever so slightly, hard to hear it, maybe that was what caused a dip in voltage, I'll keep an eye on it and will report everything I learn about it 🤙

  • @RollWithSoul317

    @RollWithSoul317

    11 ай бұрын

    @@ontherebel11 Thank you, much appreciated.

  • @SLIGHT_
    @SLIGHT_11 ай бұрын

    Wow those roads are beautiful! Great information Gus. Love your videos.

  • @ontherebel11

    @ontherebel11

    11 ай бұрын

    Good morning Slight! Thank you brother, i really appreciate your encouragement!! I'm patiently waiting for your Rebel 1100 videos!

  • @SLIGHT_

    @SLIGHT_

    11 ай бұрын

    @@ontherebel11 appreciate you brother. You deserve the support and success! As for my upcoming content on the 1100… hope I don’t disappoint.

  • @TJ-qo2xu
    @TJ-qo2xu11 ай бұрын

    Sounds like the Cruisetech tires are the best overall tires for the bike. Good to know that these Night Dragons are still good tires but have their little quips. Thank you for yet another great video, be safe, have fun and can't wait for more.

  • @ontherebel11

    @ontherebel11

    11 ай бұрын

    Hi TJ! Good to hear from you man! Thank you for your continued support brother! 🤙

  • @TJ-qo2xu

    @TJ-qo2xu

    11 ай бұрын

    @ontherebel11 of course, fun fact, my fiancé and I went and saw some Rebel 300's in person(all the dealership had in), and pictures/videos don't do them justice, beautiful bikes in person... also, my fiancé's kid might have caught the riding bug from us as well. Going back out there Wednesday for the kiddo to see those and the fun machine that is the Grom. We might end up being a full family of riders in the future!

  • @ontherebel11

    @ontherebel11

    11 ай бұрын

    @@TJ-qo2xu that's awesome to hear TJ, please share your experience if you see an 1100, very attractive in person!

  • @navimaclife
    @navimaclife11 ай бұрын

    🤘🏼

  • @waffleridersmoto4191
    @waffleridersmoto419111 ай бұрын

    Hey buddy, been following your and QM channel for a while now, and I I finally picked up the Rebel 1100 DCT. We will have to meet up in your area for lunch sometime.

  • @ontherebel11

    @ontherebel11

    11 ай бұрын

    Congratulations on picking up the 1100 DCT!! I hope you are planning on reviewing it on your channel, would love to hear your opinion brother! Yes, we definitely need to get together!

  • @ecrusch
    @ecrusch11 ай бұрын

    Thank you for your insightful videos my friend. I wonder if the buzzing could also be attributed to the new parts you installed, wheel bearings, chain, etc. That plus the new tires have mave made a lot of small changes (surely all for the better). It may just be a condition of all these things having to "get used to " each other. It will be interesting to get your thoughts after a 1,000 miles or so. Thank you again. Peace. Eric in Kissimmee.

  • @ontherebel11

    @ontherebel11

    11 ай бұрын

    Good morning Eric! We think alike brother! Based on my observations, i am confident the buzzing is coming from the tires, but i am keeping an open mind and monitoring everything else as well, thank you for your support brother!

  • @mikeriv
    @mikeriv11 ай бұрын

    Another great video🎉

  • @ontherebel11

    @ontherebel11

    11 ай бұрын

    Hi Mike, thank you so much man!!!!

  • @Imsaved777
    @Imsaved77711 ай бұрын

    Great video!

  • @ontherebel11

    @ontherebel11

    11 ай бұрын

    Thank you Gary!!!

  • @doogietop6067
    @doogietop60672 ай бұрын

    Hi. Been watching your channel for lots of tips, very helpful and I thank you very much as your videos help people like me who owns an 1100. Any update on the night dragon tires? How is it in the wet? Where I'm from it's the only 1 available aside from stock Dunlops and been holding off pulling the trigger to put this night dragons on

  • @ontherebel11

    @ontherebel11

    2 ай бұрын

    Hi there!! Great question as i have finally made my mind up! I recently rode in the rain for an extended period of time, and relative to the cruistecs, the night dragons felt less grippy, meaning i would lose traction much sooner than i did with the Metzeler cruisetecs, I am aggressive in my riding as i am always testing the limits of my gear and equipment, understanding and knowing the limits helps keep me safe. The dragons also lost traction much sooner in cold temps below 50 degrees, it caught me off guard at first, but after repeated tests, the dragons don't like the cold. Based on switching directly from the cruisetecs to the dragons, my personal choice will be the cruistecs, so i will be going back to the metzelers very soon. This is subjective, and also keep in mind that the rear dragon that i have is a GT, so it might be a harder less grippy compound.... regardless, i will be going to the cruisetecs - they gave me confidence in any condition, almost too good to be true tbh. if you've followed along long enough you know that i took many trips in freezing cold rainy conditions to very far away places and with the tires having 14,000 miles on them , i then took them to the track where i rode at the limits of the bike. I have no dog in this fight - both tires are made by the same company as pirrelli owns metzeler, i paid my own money for them, the only thing i care about is having the best tires, brakes and suspension available for my bike as i view these as safety items - cost is not a factor when i get these items. Long story short, i will be getting the metzeler cruistecs all day long.

  • @doogietop6067

    @doogietop6067

    2 ай бұрын

    Thank you very much for your reply, I really appreciate it. I was trying to get Metzelers cruisetecs here in the Philippines but really is not available. I will put the night dragons and hope they will be much better and safer than stock Dunlops. More power to you and please don't tire sharing your expertise and experiences!

  • @my2wheels
    @my2wheels11 ай бұрын

    Great review!👍👍👍

  • @ontherebel11

    @ontherebel11

    11 ай бұрын

    Thank you Anthony!!!!!

  • @my2wheels

    @my2wheels

    11 ай бұрын

    Pleasure to watch your reviews!

  • @QuasiMotard
    @QuasiMotard11 ай бұрын

    First again! 😉👍 --QM

  • @tkstylem
    @tkstylem11 ай бұрын

    from the love shack to wearing diapers 😢 that’s why your channel rocks: you don’t sugarcoat things even after spending a lot of your own $$ on tires…surprised they are so different since pirelli owns mezler good job!

  • @ontherebel11

    @ontherebel11

    11 ай бұрын

    Thank you T! They are quite loud, that is one thing that I was not expecting, strange how I got numb hands and feet so quickly, more testing needed!

  • @redhawk1497
    @redhawk149711 ай бұрын

    Thanks. was wondering about those tires.

  • @ontherebel11

    @ontherebel11

    11 ай бұрын

    As have I 🤣🤣

  • @Julio-bc7pj
    @Julio-bc7pj11 ай бұрын

    hi bud, another tires set?! holy molly you putting some serious mileage. 🙂 I'm planning to get the previous one cruisetec metzeler as you told me before. Dont confuse me with more brands jajajaja, say hello to candy long time no see

  • @ontherebel11

    @ontherebel11

    11 ай бұрын

    Hi Julio! did you see my candy in the thumbnail of the video?! hahahahha I agree, stick to the cruisetecs bro. Thank you for your support man!

  • @Julio-bc7pj

    @Julio-bc7pj

    11 ай бұрын

    @@ontherebel11 ah. No I missed her jajajaj. Ok thx ☺️

  • @ontherebel11

    @ontherebel11

    11 ай бұрын

    @@Julio-bc7pj hahahahha🤣🤣

  • @FxsX24
    @FxsX2411 ай бұрын

    For some reason these bikes occasionally will have the cruise control disable if you just turn the key off and back on while you're writing it should sort itself out. Not quite sure how that will work with the DCT though

  • @ontherebel11

    @ontherebel11

    11 ай бұрын

    Hi Fran!! That was the first time it's happened on mine, i've read about it, just never experienced it, i'm happy the camera was rolling.

  • @callismo
    @callismo8 ай бұрын

    Have you had the cruise control issue happen again? I had it happen almost daily during winter here in Aus and could not work it out for the life of me. Now that the temperature is picking up its only happened once or twice so I’ve put it down to a temperature thing but it really puzzles me. Simply turning the bike off and on again fixes it so it could be a voltage thing too. But would really love to know what’s going on. Honda themselves couldn’t find it either. I also have the night dragon tyres (only done about 2000kms on them) and love them

  • @ontherebel11

    @ontherebel11

    8 ай бұрын

    Hi Callismo!! Funny you ask, i experienced the cruise control disconnect a second time recently! But i'm not sure why... it's possible that it is a voltage situation as i haven't been able to ride much and i don't have the bike connected to a tender yet....

  • @callismo

    @callismo

    8 ай бұрын

    @@ontherebel11 I’m thinking of buying a new battery but a better one to see if that is the case. A lot of people say it’s the brake line but that only causes the cruise control to disengage but what we’re experiencing is the whole cruise control module turning off which is not right

  • @PeskyWabbit.
    @PeskyWabbit.11 ай бұрын

    Sorry for silly question, but what fairing/windshield do you have? I thought you had the batwing?? What video should I watch

  • @ontherebel11

    @ontherebel11

    11 ай бұрын

    No worries at all! This is the Gustafson screen on the original batwing, here are the details if you are interested. Excellent quality! kzread.info/dash/bejne/noWspbCBj5ybnaQ.html

  • @jamescampolo7824
    @jamescampolo782411 ай бұрын

    I have a question not related to this video but I have a 2021 Rebel 1100 and it uses a quart/litre in 2000miles. This seems excessive. My 27 year old Valkyrie uses a half a quart at most in 3000miles. I can park both in the garage for months with no leaks.

  • @ontherebel11

    @ontherebel11

    11 ай бұрын

    Hi James! Good hearing from you! I haven't noticed significant loss of oil on my bike, i have to keep a closer eye on it and keep a record if and when i add oil.

  • @MiroVaclav
    @MiroVaclav11 ай бұрын

    Hi Gus, whem I will need to retire I will go into Metzler. As I remember you were impressed even in first miles..... Maybe it just needs "to sit" but I would not try it. But by my milage you will change tires again when I will need to change my tires. One more think Gus- this week I have met one guy which has 2023 Rebel 1100 and he has asked me if I also have those "unstable cold start" and as I hade described him how my cold engine runs he confirmed that also with his bike. That means guys from Honda dealersjip were right with their explanation and their "emision theory". I just wanted to tell you😄👍

  • @ontherebel11

    @ontherebel11

    11 ай бұрын

    Hi Miro!!!! It's always a pleasure to get your feedback brother! Yes, the rebel does have a strange cold startup, thank you for sharing what the dealership told you!!

  • @williamcoulter5462

    @williamcoulter5462

    11 ай бұрын

    Is that to do with the carbon filter dumping fumes into the throttle body on start up? I sometimes have issues if I start up too soon after switching off when the bike is hot and the valve still opens and dumps fuel vapours into the engine causing the bike to over rev when I try to slow manouver.

  • @jamescampolo7824
    @jamescampolo782410 ай бұрын

    I had the cruise problem, just adjust the rear brake switch. I was accidentally tapping it when it was set. It didn't turn off completely, just disengauged. About the tires, would you recommend the Metzler or Pirellis for an old guy that doesn't do track but does twisties and highway?

  • @ontherebel11

    @ontherebel11

    10 ай бұрын

    Hi James, you will love the cruisetecs way more than any other tire for the rebel, they are the only tire that I will recommend for the rebel 1100, you will not be disappointed with the performance: highway, twisties, cold, hot, rain, grooves on highway, plus the Longevity! If you are interested and have some time to spare, I did a 1,000 mile test of the dragons, you might find the summary helpful. 👍

  • @jamescampolo7824

    @jamescampolo7824

    10 ай бұрын

    @@ontherebel11Thanks for the reply, I'll check it out.

  • @ontherebel11

    @ontherebel11

    10 ай бұрын

    @@jamescampolo7824 kzread.info/dash/bejne/l3usmtCSp8i0ZLA.html It's in the summary section at the end of the video

  • @SuperChonus
    @SuperChonus11 ай бұрын

    I’m pretty sure that’s the same set of twisties that you shared video of a while ago. Interesting to see the difference between you taking it easy on the night dragons versus getting after it on the cruisetechs. I know you were intentionally taking it easy on the new tires this time.

  • @ontherebel11

    @ontherebel11

    11 ай бұрын

    I'm glad you caught that! I deliberately took the exact same route I took when I test rode the cruisetecs, it made sense to do that since I have the original video to refresh my memory. Took the exact route a second time on the dragons last weekend, the turn in characteristics are definitely different, the dragons seem to turn a tighter radius, a more sporty feeling (not sure the average rider will like that feeling). I experimented with the suspension to try and get a better feeling. The dragons are very stiff so softening the rear suspension helped in reducing the bounce I was feeling. The buzz is still there and it's definitely the tires and not the new chain and sprockets. I have about 300 miles on them, hoping to put 1,000 fairly quickly. I still feel that for the average rider the cruisetecs are a better choice. Fyi, I didn't feel a wobble at high speed when my rear preload was at 18 clicks, but dropping it to 14 clicks it came back slightly.

  • @SuperChonus

    @SuperChonus

    11 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the added detail. Interesting to hear about the new buzz/vibration you're feeling. I hate feeling vibration through my handlebars. I have issues with my wrists, and I spent a lot of time and energy fixing that issue on a previous Yamaha FJ 1200 and my current Yamaha FJ09. I also installed a Magura hydraulic clutch system on the FJ09 to lighten the clutch pull because of wrist pain and that is another reason I'm looking at the Rebel DCT. I'm curious to know your thoughts on the Night Dragons once you’ve passed 1,000 miles. Your description of “turn a tighter radius” and “ more sporty feeling” sounds good to me, but if you have to sacrifice high-speed stability that requires sub-optimal rear suspension settings to correct, I can see that’s not ideal. You seem to make the stock suspension work just fine, but have you ever considered throwing some Penske shocks on the rear? shop.penskeshocks.com/collections/rear-shocks-cruiser-motorcycle/products/8900-single-adjustable They offer a 13” length, and I think they would be a direct bolt-on, but I’m not sure. Of course, they’re not cheap. It seems you could ride as hard as you wanted with the Cruistecs and were touching pegs before reaching the limit of those tires, but…”Pirelli Night Dragon” sounds more badass than Cruistecs :) @@ontherebel11

  • @tkstylem

    @tkstylem

    11 ай бұрын

    @@ontherebel11I think I’d file a warranty claim with cyclegear to get a new set of tires… or maybe they overfilled them with beads… it just doesn’t sound right (literally)… feeling for you

  • @ontherebel11

    @ontherebel11

    11 ай бұрын

    @@tkstylem thank you T! I'll wait until I get to 1,000 miles to see if the buzz is still heard.... It should smooth out once it starts to wear.

  • @therealmackaw
    @therealmackaw11 ай бұрын

    Duuude where did you get that huge screen please ?

  • @ontherebel11

    @ontherebel11

    10 ай бұрын

    i got them from here, they are awesome quality and a great company!!!! bikescreen.com/

  • @untanis_easy_fix
    @untanis_easy_fixАй бұрын

    I had night dragons, very disapointed. They were great in the begining but after 2000miles must change them.

  • @ontherebel11

    @ontherebel11

    27 күн бұрын

    In my experience, i prefer the Metzeler cruisetecs tbh. I will be going back to them.

  • @abrahamelias95
    @abrahamelias9511 ай бұрын

    Dont you feel you changed too many variables at the same time to know if the tires are causing the buzz and so on? I appreciate the insight, lets see how they develop

  • @ontherebel11

    @ontherebel11

    11 ай бұрын

    Hi Abraham, you are correct, it is best not to make so many changes at once and i generally don't do that, but due to limited time etc, i had to... The video doesn't capture the tone as well as the feel, but to my ears, the buzzing is the sound of the tires... but i'm human and i've been wrong in the past LOL

  • @bplaizier1

    @bplaizier1

    2 ай бұрын

    I was wondering the same thing. I wondered if the vibrating could be from the new chain? Did the vibrating ever stop. Nice video, I'm most likely going to be getting some night dragons for my vmax 1700. There is not a lot of tire choices for the size tires mine takes. Cruise techs are not an option for my bike. Keep up the good work and ride safe!

  • @ontherebel11

    @ontherebel11

    2 ай бұрын

    @bplaizier1 thank you! It wasn't a vibration, it was the tread pattern creating a buzz, similar to the buzz heard on adventure bikes with off-road capable tires. It did get better, I don't feel it or hear it anymore. I will be going back to the cruisetecs though. 👍

  • @inourvendetta1
    @inourvendetta110 ай бұрын

    What windshield are you using?

  • @ontherebel11

    @ontherebel11

    10 ай бұрын

    Hi there, this is where i got mine, they are awesome! bikescreen.com/

  • @inourvendetta1

    @inourvendetta1

    10 ай бұрын

    @@ontherebel11 Thanks!

  • @JDeezle21
    @JDeezle2111 ай бұрын

    Have you upgraded your Suspension?

  • @ontherebel11

    @ontherebel11

    11 ай бұрын

    Funny you should ask 🤣🤣 Stand by 🤙

  • @JDeezle21

    @JDeezle21

    11 ай бұрын

    @@ontherebel11 You're up to something 🤔 😏. Good stuff. Notifications are now on.

  • @ontherebel11

    @ontherebel11

    11 ай бұрын

    @@JDeezle21 🤣🤣🤣

  • @soganoflarider
    @soganoflarider11 ай бұрын

    Now I’m gonna have to look and see which tires are on my daughters motorcycle 😂

  • @ontherebel11

    @ontherebel11

    11 ай бұрын

    Hopefully they are Cruistecs 🤣

  • @soganoflarider

    @soganoflarider

    11 ай бұрын

    @@ontherebel11 the new Indian Chief I have has the Night Dragons on it and they actually fit this style of cruiser in my opinion

  • @skiplamm
    @skiplamm11 ай бұрын

    Are you in West Virginia?

  • @ontherebel11

    @ontherebel11

    11 ай бұрын

    Hi Skiplamm, I'm in VA but I just got back from a 4 day trip to WV, totally amazing!

  • @skiplamm

    @skiplamm

    11 ай бұрын

    @@ontherebel11 WV is where live and that road looks like rt50

  • @jamescampolo7824
    @jamescampolo782411 ай бұрын

    Hi, here's a link on how to defeat the 99mph speed limit on the Rebel. kzread.info/dash/bejne/qXl83JZ9pKfHp84.html

  • @ontherebel11

    @ontherebel11

    11 ай бұрын

    Thanks James, those days are behind me brother, 100 mph is way more than I'll ever need....

  • @jamescampolo7824

    @jamescampolo7824

    11 ай бұрын

    Don't you go over 100 on the track?@@ontherebel11

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