Chargers fan: Opening a lot of old wounds with this one

@phatmartyplays332

3 жыл бұрын

Colts fan who got to see a full year of ups and downs of a 39 year old Quarterback it’s not hill fault y’all management is terrible

@youtubedude3422

3 жыл бұрын

@@phatmartyplays332 Funny you bring that up cuz I don't remember saying anything about Phil

@luciddreamworks

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah...I reminded me how pissed I was at Nate Kaeding

@stevebuhrt3504

2 жыл бұрын

Wait... there are Chargers fans? Huh

@youtubedude3422

2 жыл бұрын

@@stevebuhrt3504 Only in San Diego, which translates to "a whale vagina"

As a Chargers fan this man played with a fucking TORN ACL in the AFC Conference Championship game without Gates or LT, 17th in passing yards, 16th in completions, 13th in touchdown passes, and 6th in passer rating. He was Ironman for us. He gave us his best years. 2006-2010 should’ve been a Super Bowl win for us. His last best shot with us was 2018-2019 and we fucked it up. I was hoping he’d win it all with the Colts but unfortunately didn’t happen. Thank you for the good memories Rivers your censored trash talk was on another level.

@dylan.h4672

3 жыл бұрын

As a die-heart chargers fan this is very well written.

@gadguard

2 жыл бұрын

@@dylan.h4672 I wonder what would of happened if Eli Manning started in San Diego instead of being traded for Rivers.

@suziq5293

2 жыл бұрын

Wish we had good coaching with Rivers!

@strykrpinoy

2 жыл бұрын

@@gadguard Rivers would of had 3 ring with the Giants or Steelers.

@aaron-qb3my

2 жыл бұрын

12 teams make the playoffs. 13th or lower is poopoo

The most common things I heard. "Philip Rivers throws an interception to end the game" or "Rivers leads a come from behind touchdown, then the San Diego defense gives up a touchdown ending the game". Welcome to Chargers fans life. You can see whatever you want in the guy lol

@iProphetGG

2 жыл бұрын

Being forced to play hero, the man had a cannon and laid it all out when it mattered. Knowing your defense can't stop the opposing team and that your kickers are ass makes you play more desperate as well.

@bobcore224

2 жыл бұрын

Or a missed field goal

@ThizzyWailer

2 жыл бұрын

@@bobcore224 Nate kaeding choked so many times

@addster124

Жыл бұрын

the video literally showed stats to show he was a choke artist.

@Recurses

Жыл бұрын

@@vulcanraven9701 no shit qbs were better

Jesus Christ this is just painful. The amount of blown opportunities goes beyond comedic to point its rather sad. I think the chargers may legitimately be cursed. RIP Rivers, and god help J Herb.

@yourboykester4099

3 жыл бұрын

It’s been very depressing being a Chargers fan

@matts9487

3 жыл бұрын

@@yourboykester4099 that 2010 season haunts me to this day... as does that 2007 loss to New England

@retrobat153

2 жыл бұрын

I get drunk before watching chargers games now cause if not ill go insane with the amount of close games we lose. We have the absolute worst luck in sports history and Ill argue that with anyone

@eduardsiger1860

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexmotts Brees has bad karma too, could be because he was a Charger ha

@praetorian9823

2 жыл бұрын

@@retrobat153 I mean… Detroit’s even worse. Though yeah, I have a soft spot for the Chargers. But I’m still not calling them the LA Chargers.

I have a bad feeling we'll be doing this for Josh Allen in 10 years

@Yousonhop4233

Жыл бұрын

he basically ended his career on his last game

@ifheavenwashuman

10 ай бұрын

Allen? Herbert, as well.

@Skerboysweet

10 ай бұрын

Allen naw! stfu 🐱y boy burrow hasn’t win either you clown mahomes is the only new QB in the AFC who has won it all and mahomes got in the league before everyone else what about Lamar or burrow or Herbert or Lawrence or Tua stop singling out allen straight up clown 🤡 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

@Zack_410

10 ай бұрын

He isn't good enough to win a SB.

@creegangil439

10 ай бұрын

i hope so.

Feel like alot of these losses end up with "but then Rivers threw an Interception"

@Xstrangis

3 жыл бұрын

He said that right as I read this and they lost

@USALeonHeart

3 жыл бұрын

Low tier Favre

@lukeferraro01

3 жыл бұрын

A lot of these was him getting the ball at his only 30 with 30 seconds left. I don’t blame a QB for throwing up a prayer as a last resort. He’s a gunslinger. I much rather see him throw a pick when the team desperately needs to get down the field with no time left than see someone like Teddy Bridgewater throw a 5 yard pass on a 4th and 7 and lose but not throw a pick

@lizardoutlaw9512

3 жыл бұрын

@@Xstrangis That happened to me too!

@BaldguyWifi

2 жыл бұрын

@@lukeferraro01 still Philip rivers was very notorious for throwing dumb ints late in games

How is it that Barry makes better content than all the paid sports writers? This retrospective is amazing.

@catfishandbass8680

2 жыл бұрын

He actually has to care about his job unlike them.

@rickhall8119

2 жыл бұрын

Meritocracy. Sports writers in legacy media are there because of politics, not merit.

@Someonewhoecist

Жыл бұрын

because Barry is the goat

@formulahank1250

8 ай бұрын

Those same reporters are too worried about flip-flopping between kissing players’ asses to get interviews, yet sensationalizing headlines when they have one or two bad games

Philip Rivers is a hall of famer. He def blew some games but the Chargers team as a whole let him down more than vice versa. Marlon McRee fumble, historically bad special teams, consistent choking defenses, bad kickers, etc. As a Chargers fan our franchise was absolute trash Rivers carried us for so long and deserved better!

@adisridharan4299

3 жыл бұрын

I admire Rivers, but carrying a team as a qb doesn’t make them a hof. Other qbs who carried poor teams like Matt Stafford’s, Archie Manning, etc. will never sniff the hof because they’re missing key qualifications. Now rivers is unequivocally better than those two qbs, but that doesn’t help his hof chances. He was rarely ever the best or 2nd best qb in the league because he was always overshadowed by Brady, manning, Rodgers, brees, and favre. That’s why he doesn’t have accolades necessary for the hof like mvps, all pros, and opoys. Now, if he had a career like Big Ben and won multiple sbs, despite never being a top 2 qb, he would have a solid chance at getting inducted. But he didn’t even make a sb. U mentioned the rest of the team as the reason for why he failed to make a sb, but that doesn’t mean he should be absolved of blame. He submitted some poor performances that contributed to his losses. Overall, Rivers was a great qb, but he isn’t a HOFer.

@brentonburbank4320

2 жыл бұрын

True

@manijones4997

2 жыл бұрын

He also had LT for a while Antonio Gates Vincent Jackson and I’m missing one receiver he was a pro bowler tho can’t remember his name tho

@kalebdegroot7825

2 жыл бұрын

@@adisridharan4299 Phillip Rivers isn't a better player than Matt Stafford. Go home man, you're drunk.

@adisridharan4299

2 жыл бұрын

@@kalebdegroot7825 when he was in Detroit (he didn't start for the rams before I published my comment), he definitely wasn't better than Philip Rivers. That could change based on his current performance with the rams, but Rivers was definitely better than Detroit Stafford.

He may not be in the Hall of Fame but he's definitely is in the Hall of Game😏

@TILLADRE

3 жыл бұрын

w lol

@ethanlane3055

3 жыл бұрын

W

@Sentient_Blob

3 жыл бұрын

He ain’t a quitter, that’s for sure

@praetorian9823

2 жыл бұрын

@@Sentient_Blob his *wife* isn’t.

10:45 "rivers threw an interception" "completely ignores that receiver fails to catch the ball"

@Griimmyyy

2 жыл бұрын

@@ImaginaryNate the guy who made this video hates a lot of players who are really good and makes excuses to why they suck

@yetekt8025

2 жыл бұрын

@@Griimmyyy he thinks Tom Brady is the devil and then he think Mahomes is the best we ever

@secondarycolors2947

2 жыл бұрын

@@yetekt8025 I think he Said Aaron Rodgers was the best as of right now

@secondarycolors2947

2 жыл бұрын

@@Griimmyyy who? There are a Few Vidoes Like that.. But Phillip Did mess up Atone (Ignoreing a Few Drops and his Special Teams Being Garbage)

@Griimmyyy

2 жыл бұрын

@@secondarycolors2947 yeah he made mistakes but even the best all time make a ton of mistakes. He discredits quarterbacks who are great just to be different. Tom Brady especially. I'm a Steelers fan but Tom Brady is literally one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time.

As a chiefs fan, I really miss rivers. He was just so consistent with the game sealing fourth quarter interceptions

2010 Chargers could have been summed up as historically bad special teams. Jon Bois and co (Dorktown) did a good video on it.

@dizzydwarf502

2 жыл бұрын

I've linked that video to so many comment sections over the last couple years lol

11:32 "rivers threw an interception" "completely ignores vincent jacksons lack of attempt to even interfere or try catching the jump ball"

@BlondeMcGuinn

2 жыл бұрын

I like how you’ve commented 7+ times on this video. In a lot of them, you blame the *receiver* for the interception and not Rivers. I admire your dedication.

@SergioFletes

2 жыл бұрын

@@BlondeMcGuinn thanks for the admiration, but I'm just stating facts.

As a Colts fan, I spent 15 years hating Philip Rivers and 1 year developing a deep respect for the man even if he was past his prime by the time he got to Indy. In hindsight, I have to say that Rivers was a lot of fun to watch and he fought as hard as any QB in the NFL. Unfortunately, though, I think his career is best summed up with the phrase, "Close, but no cigar."

@gabrielmondragon7124

2 жыл бұрын

Only thing i respect about rivers is that he's a breeder fuck him as a QB

Rivers belongs in the "Hall of Famously Losing One Score Games"

@Hovig996

3 жыл бұрын

SAD, most of them being 3-4 point games too

Thanks barry. Ive been asking for this one. You make some of the best nfl content on youtube

This is a perfect time to make another video on Aaron, Barry. Highlight all the shit that the Packers have done to waste his career and all his teammates failures in big games. (Yes, of course Aaron has had a few games where he didn’t play well but the vast majority of his playoff losses were defensive failures)

@wv4776

2 жыл бұрын

Aaron has shown repeatedly that he doesn’t show up in big games. And yea Aaron’s bad day might be better than most’s good day but when you want to be considered in the same tier as Brady and Montana you gotta be better in those big games.

@gbrow1604

Жыл бұрын

@@wv4776 I mean, he has been good in most big games. This past loss was probably his biggest choke and even then he did enough to win if not for the special teams meltdown.

@choosecarefully408

Жыл бұрын

You got your wish but the people replying below likely won't admit it. People idolize sports teams. The HC, owners & players can change & they feel loyal to the concept of 'The Team.' Ergo, the _Packers_ are great & if they lose, blame A Player. But as Barry has shown, the Packers are _not great_ in playoff games. Won't matter. The instinct to blame someone, especially someone who won't or can't call anyone out for it will always appeal to the majority, in real life as well as Lord of the Flies.

Need a ELI manning version of this

@julianbell9161

3 жыл бұрын

My favorite football player of all time but definitely had one of the weirdest careers in sports history

@julianzamudio4432

3 жыл бұрын

The more championships Brady wins the better Eli looks in my eyes

@seand1011

3 жыл бұрын

You got your wish! The video lasts.............all of 6 seconds.

@carloscervantes8223

3 жыл бұрын

@@seand1011 I got Barry’s insight . His best video to date

@tomknapp6194

3 жыл бұрын

@@Anon-zl4ne Even if an average Brady showed, neither game would have been close. But, both times he had one of his worst games of the year and all the credit goes to Eli even though he still needed a lucky play to pull it out.

I’d like to see and Eli Manning video. Maybe the weirdest career of any QB ever

@charliebaldanza7691

3 жыл бұрын

It’s up !!!

Dan Lebatard had a joke about Phillip Rivers always needing to score a TD with 30 seconds to go from his own 30 yard line and it makes me laugh every time because it’s so true. He wasn’t perfect but he was great but so unlucky

@pw383426

3 жыл бұрын

Some picks were his fault, a lot was him trying to make something out of nothing

@iss6044

2 жыл бұрын

@@pw383426 A lot of those picks I saw were on his receivers. He sucked his last year with the Chargers, though. The thing is, Rivers, was such a QB savant; that he was able to put up hall of fame career numbers with a slightly above average arm strength and the ugliest throwing motion in NFL history.

The 2007-2008 Chargers roster is maybe the most stacked roster ever... On offense you have Philip Rivers, LaDainian Tomlinson, Darren Sproles, Antonio Gates, absolute stud OL and on defense they had Jamal Williams, Stephen Cooper, and lights out himself Shawn Merriman. The only reason they didn’t win the Super Bowl that year it’s because Rivers and Tomlinson and were both playing through injuries.

@sharifs649

2 жыл бұрын

Madden 08

@elijahechicagobearsboyd5734

2 ай бұрын

I want to completely agree, but it’s the chargers; they always find a way to shit the bed…

The 2010 Chargers are a modern tragedy

I truly love this channel

If rivers is a hof, I think Matt Ryan should also be one

@garretnoethe5045

3 жыл бұрын

100%

@Noah_Tindell

3 жыл бұрын

So what would you say if someone (like Barry) says he's not a HoF'er? Would you still put Ryan in?

@gridirongod4207

3 жыл бұрын

Matt Ryan has a higher shot at being a HOF than Rivers. He has a SB appearance, and the three highest honors a QB can get all in one season (1st team All Pro, MVP and OPOY). He will very likely finish with higher counting stats than Rivers as well.

@jessepusatero5511

3 жыл бұрын

@@Noah_Tindell too stubborn to hear anything that doesn't agree with my views 👍🏽

@msscott22

3 жыл бұрын

IMO Matt Ryan isn't a HOF'er either.

Hey chargers, don't waist herbert like you waisted rivers

@GO-wb1gf

3 жыл бұрын

Rivers is just a choker. They gave him competent teams for a long while

@gimmeurring7386

3 жыл бұрын

@@GO-wb1gf A lot of injuires happened to his best teams. 2007 fully healthy they would've won the super bowl

@JaytooComp

3 жыл бұрын

@@gimmeurring7386 u don’t know that the giants had a great defense and tigers was a choke

@cryogames6575

3 жыл бұрын

*waste

@mattshipley182

3 жыл бұрын

@@GO-wb1gf as a Chargers fan... no they didn’t. They let him get torn apart by a crap O-line

I hate that plays like this count as "game-ending INTs" even though it's literally on 4th down and there's no other choice but to try to make something happen.

Refusing to move to Los Angeles & instead hiring a driver for hours of commuting every Chargers work day for 3 seasons is the only thing that gets Rivers HoF consideration. 😂

@DannyMeasho999

2 жыл бұрын

why didn’t he wanna move

@praetorian9823

2 жыл бұрын

@@DannyMeasho999 probably because he already lived in San Diego for over a decade, and the fact that Dean Spanos (By the way fuck Dean Spanos) completely betrayed San Diego all so that he could maximize profit likely pissed him off.

@andrewmeyer4124

2 жыл бұрын

@@praetorian9823 Also his kids were in school in San Diego, and he didn't want to uproot them

I miss Philip Rivers, he's one of my all-time favorite QBs. It's the longest of shots, but I hope he ends up in Canton.

@bryanjones4444

2 жыл бұрын

It is not a long shot he is a shoe in. I did a 2,000 hour study of all of the Hall of Famers whose careers started after 1947. I first compared their stats to the average QB of their era and then those percentages to the other Hall of Famers or Famers to be. Rivers ranks a very solid 20th out of 31. His final score in my study was 448.7 and anyone above 375 should be a shoe in. He scores better than Dawson, Kelly, Elway, Layne, Stabler, Griese, Namath, Bradshaw, Starr and Aikman and right behind Warren Moon.

Its laughable that people think Eli is better than Philip.

@michael7054

7 ай бұрын

Yeah Eli was so inconsistent during the regular season.

@JackCallSports

6 ай бұрын

Phillip was better But a bigger choker

I was at the ray rice fourth and 29 conversion, I've never seen a crowd with such a strong combination of anger and astonishment

You forgot to mention that the two picks against the jets in 09 were 1 a ridiculous pick that bounced off of the receiever and defenders ass and 2 reciever running the wrong route, but it doesnt fit the narrative

These are amazing, would love to see more of them! Career reviews on players such as Big ben, Russell wilson, Elway, Favre, Palmer, etc.

DEFINITELY!!!!! HE IS THE QB IN CHARGER HISTORY!!

Dude if Warren Moon is in the HOF this dude should be

@hoodiejelo6456

3 жыл бұрын

Well I mean Moon is better than Rivers so that just doesn't make any sense, but Rivers is def a hof

@gridirongod4207

3 жыл бұрын

If guys like Warren Moon, Troy Aikman, Jim Kelly, Dan Fouts, Ken Stabler, Bob Griese can make the HOF Then Matt Ryan, Philip Rivers, Big Ben and even Russell Wilson should make it

@hoodiejelo6456

3 жыл бұрын

​@@gridirongod4207 I mean saying Ryan, Roethlisberger, Rivers, and Wilson are hall of Famers isn't really a hot take( cause they all are), plus all those guys you named are more than deserving of their spots in the hall, Especially Fouts considering the fact he revolutionized the QB position.

@antonioiniguez1615

3 жыл бұрын

@@hoodiejelo6456 Troy Aikman is extremely overrated though

@hoodiejelo6456

3 жыл бұрын

@@antonioiniguez1615 now that I agree with, he only threw 20 or more touchdowns once and had no all pros

LETSSSSS GOOOO I JUST DMED YOU ABOUT MATTY ICE AND RIVERS THANK YOU BARRY

Great video! I really enjoyed watching!

Rivers is actually my favorite quateback just because of his style and personality. Also chargers have cool jerseys lol. Awesome vid, def shows how he was a turnover machine

As a Raider fan I have to admit I think he’s a hall of famer. He’s a lot like Dan Fouts, great numbers but never got into a Super Bowl

@alexfurtado7254

3 жыл бұрын

@@Anon-zl4ne I agree that Fouts is better but I wouldn’t take anything away from Rivers. He was as much of a MFIC as Fouts. My mom’s been a Chargers fan since the 60s and made the same comparison. Both were very prolific passers that fell short. Fouts had better offensive weapons while Rivers had better defenses. She also would choose Fouts over him. But it also can’t be understated how cursed that franchise is. John Hadl, Dan Fouts, Drew Brees and Philip Rivers and only 1 championship and 0 super bowl appearances amongst them but yet always injured Stan Humphries got them to a Super Bowl.

@SergioFletes

3 жыл бұрын

@@Anon-zl4ne stop being a boomer, rivers got let down by his teammates countless times over and over. you say he played with talent but you fail to mention their INJURIES in the PLAYOFFS. *cough* LT SAT ON THE BENCH WITH A SPRAINED ANKLE *cough*

@SergioFletes

3 жыл бұрын

@@Anon-zl4ne explain how fouts is better than rivers. Please

@Sentient_Blob

3 жыл бұрын

@@SergioFletes I would assume less game losing picks, but I don’t know much about Fouts

@praetorian9823

2 жыл бұрын

@@SergioFletes one of the extremely rare times a Raider is polite and friendly to their rivals… and you act the fool in response.

Love your content man! Can you do Donovan McNabb?

when they say Interception ... sometimes its due to the reciever not catching. Im not a Rivers fan like, oh its not his fault. But we gotta remember you could throw a ball and they drop or bounce off their head then interception happens.

As a Chargers fan I know how cursed and just how ridiculous of ways they find to lose games. Rivers generally always put his team in positions to win and they would lose the game on things like missed fgs, penalties, muffed punts, coaching among other things. Put Phil in the HOF goddamnit

@cadenr395

2 жыл бұрын

It seemed a lot like he threw a lot of untimely interceptions to end the game to me, not very clutch he isn’t a hall of famer

@mattj4362

2 жыл бұрын

@@cadenr395 not at all a hall of famer.

And you also forgot to mention that the chargers front office fired marty after their best season because of drama that was out of rivers' control, but it doesnt fit the narrative

@elijahechicagobearsboyd5734

2 ай бұрын

Uh actually he did mention Marty’s egregious firing?? Stop smoking crack, Rivers was and will always be a choke artist.

When Barry plays that song at the beginning, you know its a NO

just found you and im loving ya account such a fun blend of analysis and fun toxicity

I feel Rivers is kind of Like Carson Palmer, good quarterback, but they never did anything to make me feel they were HOF bound. I do think he is a great qb, and does have the stats. I am sure later I will add Matt Ryan to the same list of Qb's.

You also forgot to mention all the injured star players rivers had to endure in the playoffs (LT, gates, etc.) from 06-10 when he shouldve won the SB, but it doesnt fit the narrative

@brendanbartlett6994

2 жыл бұрын

Damn you super salty lmao

I dig the music in all of these videos, it is truly some inspirational music and truly matches greatness!

these videos are great. you should try doing some for NBA, MLB, NHL, etc too.

Keep the content up, these videos fire, respect the grand 🤝

Thanks for another one man

I appreciate your channel bro keep it up💯

Yes Philly Riv is a HOF!! ⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️

These are interesting and I love the research that you put in. I am adding what I learned during my 2,000 hours of research, calculations and time writing the book on the greatest quarterbacks of all time. I agreed with you about Eli and Brady. Although I think you are a little harsh on Tom but I absolutely understand because I had to rewrite my chapter on Tom because I was also too harsh. As far as Rivers goes I have him ranked 20th out of 31 QBs either in or definitely going to be in the Hall of Fame. The top score in the study was 716.7, an average quarterback scores 258.5 and Rivers scored a 458.7. That is well above the 375 that I feel should be the line for entry to the hall. He scores better than Dawson, Kelly, Elway, Layne, Stabler, Griese, Namath, Bradshaw, Starr and Aikman. As far as his percentage above average is concerned Rivers finishes nearly every one of the 16 categories right near the middle of the pack among these Hall of Famers. If he could have played as well after the ACL injury as he did before for those 15 years as a starter he would be a top 5 all time quarterback. But it was not just the injury that may have slowed him after his torrid 6 year start, it was also his lack of protection. In his seventh season he was sacked 49 times. Rivers is clearly a Hall of Famer, it is not a close call.

@krisxchirbas9503

Жыл бұрын

What's your book?

@bryanjones4444

Жыл бұрын

@@krisxchirbas9503 The title that I have chosen is "The First Scientific Study of the Greatest Quarterback of All Time". The book is finished but it is not in print yet. Hopefully it will be before spring.

@krisxchirbas9503

Жыл бұрын

@@bryanjones4444 nice. Might give it a read, will it only be published in the usa?

@bryanjones4444

Жыл бұрын

@@krisxchirbas9503 Yes I think so. Where are you from?

@krisxchirbas9503

Жыл бұрын

@@bryanjones4444 Papua new Guinea country near Australia. Maybe I can get it online.

Him having 9 kids is what I'll always remember Phillip Rivers for most.

I feel like a HoF QB is someone who makes you hold your breath every time they throw the ball in the 4th quarter. Peyton Manning, Brady, Rodgers, Brees.... these are guys I hated betting against. Philip Rivers always made me comfortable if I bet against the Chargers. I like Rivers and respect his legacy but half the QB's in the NFL will have comparable stats to him in the modern era.

@bretarmstrong6303

2 жыл бұрын

See, that's how I feel. It's the Hall of Fame, not the Hall of Good, although there's a decent amount of people in there for no reason other than they're old Steelers and Packers players during their glory years. Namath doesn't belong in there. I don't think every Lombardi player belongs in there, along with Noll. Good players, sure, but I'm not 100 percent on say, Stabler either.

@RustCole01

2 жыл бұрын

@@bretarmstrong6303 Agreed. And I don't feel like stats should be the sole determining factor either. I think guys like Julian Edelman are the kind of players whose impact was beyond stats. Guys like Khalil Mack too. They are capable of dominance and have huge games but they also force teams to commit to double teaming them. Getting 100 receptions is great, but it can sometimes be just as important to create havoc and allow other players to get easy catches. And getting 15 sacks in a season is awesome but drawing double teams, batting down passes and making QB's uncomfortable are things that we can see, but don't usually consider when it comes to the HoF. But like you said, just being a member of a dominant team shouldn't give guys an easy path to the hall. People need to recalibrate what a HoF runningback is now because guys aren't getting 32 carries a game any more. Same goes for QB's and receivers. Throwing for 4,000 yards every year shouldn't matter if it's coupled with 20 interceptions and 9 losses. 65% of starting Qb's have thrown for 4000 yds per season since 2010. There are probably some WR stat-heros on shit teams but people also need to know how much of those stats were accumulated in garbage time. It's a lot easier to tack on an extra 60 or 70 receiving yds against a prevent defense, when your team is consistently down by 10+ points in the 4th quarter

@bretarmstrong6303

2 жыл бұрын

@@RustCole01 Now you're a football fan I can talk to that just doesn't sound like a miserable drunk pissed off that the Falcons (or whatever miserable fan base) suck. I am not convinced Edelman is a Hall of Famer, but I get where you're coming from on the impact part. And yes, Adrian Peterson realistically, might be the last running back to have those kinds of stats (Henry too if he lasts awhile), so yes, we do need to re-assess the game from a stat point. I mean, I gotta be honest, if someone says Matt Ryan and Rivers belong in it, then why not Eli? And Eli, imo, was never very good. What's stopping Romo from being in at that point? It's a slippery slope if you ask me. A Pro Bowler and a Hall of Famer are 2 different makes I think. And nowadays, passing stats are kind of pedestrian compared to the old days. All of those QBs I mentioned probably have had way better stats than say Bart Starr. There needs to be some kind of balance here I think to who makes the Hall. Starr won championships with a dynasty, and I think he belongs. Griese, eh, he played for an undefeated Dolphins team that he didn't even play for because he was hurt. Championships don't mean everything, and fantasy numbers don't mean everything either, but they're both factors obviously. Marino won no championships, and Eli won 2. Almost everybody will say Marino is in fact deserving. Peyton won just as many as Eli, and we all know him to be the better QB. These are all things to consider when you think about it. Please reply back, I legit want to know how much of that you agree or disagree with, you seem like a smart dude in all honesty. It's great to talk objectively about this sport sometimes instead of, "Ah fuck you, you're a Seahawks fan!"

@RustCole01

2 жыл бұрын

@@bretarmstrong6303 "I mean, I gotta be honest, if someone says Matt Ryan and Rivers belong in it, then why not Eli? And Eli, imo, was never very good. What's stopping Romo from being in at that point? It's a slippery slope if you ask me." This exactly ^^. I'll respect what all these guys achieved as football players but if the committee's keep letting guys in because they put up stats, the Hall of Fame is gonna be more crowded than a subway in China. If Eli gets the nod for winning 2 SB's.... so be it, but I don't think he had the makings of a varsity athlete. Either way, I think objective, statistical metrics should get a reasonable amount of consideration but there also needs to be a narrative that explains why a player deserves to get in. I'm from Boston originally and I'd like to get behind a guy like Matt Ryan (Boston College) but he is in that same category of Rivers and Romo. And it's not just the SB loss. It was his Eli Manning-like performances when things weren't going great. He had some great, outlier seasons but he posted quite a few dud seasons too. All that said, I would probably vote yes on Julio Jones because he is the main reason that Matt Ryan even gets consideration. And besides that, he impacts the way defenses scheme against the Falcons and he requires so much attention that it frees up the rest of the offense. Derrick Henry is probably earning his way in but I think RB's are gonna have to be analyzed more within the model of a Christian McCaffrey or Dion Lewis.... capable backs who are equal parts, rushing and receiving threat. But if people keep clinging to stat arguments then Jameis Winston and Frank Gore will end up being first ballot Hall of Famers.

@santinohartford6891

2 жыл бұрын

@@RustCole01 I will say, I think there's a very very very real shot that Eli gets in, but Matt Ryan and Rivers don't

Our losses aren’t rivers fault even when he throws a pick it’s just the chargers way⚡️⚡️😭😭

Correct... Keep these AWESOME videos coming.👍🏽🖤💯

I've never been a fan of Rivers since he replaced Brees, but I've always known he was a good quarterback. But, you have made a compelling point, The Charger's haven't been the same since Tomlinson went to the Jet's, he deserves to in the HOF. Great Video!

@limjustajokel6269

2 жыл бұрын

Ofc they havent. You went from an all time great who had some questionable moments that we went into, to scrubs in comparison

Phillip Rivers is definitely a hall of fame NFL player

All this showed me is that Phillip rivers is the greatest 4th quarter late game interception thrower of all time

@dizzydwarf502

2 жыл бұрын

Rivers is the only QB in history to have double digit comeback wins when being down by 14+ late in the 4th quarter, Rivers has 14, no other QB eve has 10.

Rivers is the GOAT based on conception percentage with one team. Brady only managed three despite switching teams.

@asundelgun3487

2 жыл бұрын

What are you trying to say???

@ThugShakers4Christ

2 жыл бұрын

@@asundelgun3487 Phillip Rivers has a fuckton of kids. Brady only managed three kids between two women.

I hated saying people leave San Diego to get a ring. I love Phillip; even though we lost Drew Brees and Eli Manning.

What about Eli Manning? Could be a fun video for catharsis as you get to see Brady lose twice in SB.

Oh that ending line “if he could finish on the field the way he finishes in the bedroom “ lol

They had been right there with all the heavyweights of the AFC from 2004-2009, the Jets, the Colts, Patriots, Steelers... and it was mostly competitive. The conference was just loaded. The problem is that the Chargers organization gave up after that playoff loss to the Jets in 2009. You could see they never retooled, much like the St Louis Rams after they lost Super Bowl 36.

Barry with the in depth knowledge

These videos are goated

Take a drink every time he says “rivers threw and interception”; and a shot when he says “threw another interception”

This video shows how important special teams is

I think more than anything Rivers embodies what happens when your organization truly fails you. Bad coaching, no offensive line, putrid special teams, more often than not bad defenses, and what might be the worst kicking luck I've ever seen. Yes, he had INCREDIBLE weapons nearly his entire career. Antonio Gates, Darren Sproles, LT, Keenan Allen, Mike Williams, Vincent Jackson, Melvin Gordon, Danny Woodhead, Austin Ekeler, Malcom Floyd. The list could go on and on. They certainly made his stats look better. But let us not forget something: many of his top weapons were not first round picks. The push and pull of talented receivers to talented passing ability is on full display with Rivers. Ultimately I think Rivers is what you see in him. As a Chargers fan I see a guy that never missed a single game, took a beating week after week for 14 years, could make every single throw, and was an excellent leader. As a casual fan? You probably see a guy that threw a bunch of picks in the fourth quarter, was always yelling at teammates, and went 0-8 vs Brady. The truth? Somewhere in between. I've never once seen a former teammate say a bad word about him, I really only see one unforgivable poor playoff performance (2009 vs Jets), and 15 years of his teammates constantly failing to reach the moment. In the end, 2018 is pretty much an embodiment of what Rivers career SHOULD have looked like. He put up incredible numbers, made endless clutch throws, and his defense/kicking was up to par to produce 12 wins. Only problem? Against the Patriots - when it counted - his defense and offensive line fell apart while Rivers made nearly zero mistakes. I think he's a Hall of Famer.... just not a first ballot one.

Pull out game nonexistent

As a Steeler fan, yea Rivers is a Hall of Famer. Him and Big Ben were two of the most under appreciated QB’s ever

As a colts fan who got to see the ups and downs of a 39 year old quarterback yes he had some big blunders and did choke at times but for every great win has chocked at some point he just had really bad luck imo

@deanbenford7363

2 жыл бұрын

Watching the Colts win right now with Wentz and that stud of an r.b. has got to make Rivers shake his head. Perfect timing with the afc South in the sewer. I'm so gonna laugh my butt off if the Colts make the super bowl due to wide open a.f.c.

Let’s ask the Magic Conch Shell.

It's almost like when there's 4 minutes left or less left in the game, he turns into Phillip Puddles First ballot fantasy football hall of Famer for sure. He was always a thrill to watch throw the ball. Them LT teams were the most entertaining I ever seen.

@gbrow1604

Жыл бұрын

Did you not hear all the times where he led a game winning/tying drives only for either his defense or kicker to let him down.

I wish this video showed some of Rivers’s amazing throws. He stood in a collapsing pocket and took the hit while releasing the ball at the last second more than anyone, incl Roethlisberger.

He has elite or hof seasons every time the chargers have a abole averege OL. He wasnt a mobile qb, só chargers fail to protect him, and thats why He cant play at his best in all those years. For me, theres worsts qbs who haverá achive hof, rivers deserve a jacket, mas é not in The first ballot, but He and gates deserve to be there

@dizzydwarf502

2 жыл бұрын

Just wanted to point out, that Rivers only once ever had an "above average" pass blocking O-Line, and that was with the Colts. The best protection he had in front of him as a Charger was in 2013 when it was 21st, still below average as 16 is average. The rest of the time as a Charger the O-Line rankings of their starters in pass protection was never better than 26th, and mostly was top 3 worst. And that was their starters, not even counting the injuries they had to deal with. 1 example was 2019 when they didn't have a single starter left on the entire O-Line by the end of week 6 and by the end of the season they had gone through 13 different O-Linemen. BTW, that year they starters were ranked 31st in the league yet those starters basically didn't even get to play. That's the kind of so called "protection" Rivers had as a Charger. Not once was it even average let alone above average. 2018 even though they had 9 different O-Linemen and it was still ranked 31st in the league in pass blocking Rivers put up MVP numbers and was only out shined by the Mahamones 50+ TD season. Rivers was 2nd in line for MVP behind that shitty O-Line. Main difference from 2018 to 2019 (the Center Mike Pouncy stayed healthy all 2018).

The HoF seems to have adopted a policy of making guys who never got a ring wait a few years. I would anticipate Rivers making it sometime after 2032.

He IS a Hall of Famer! *sniff* to his friends!

I'm curious as to what your opinion on cam newtons career so far is.

@visualize2065

3 жыл бұрын

He thinks Cam is overrated

Listening to all the times the Chargers tucked tail and punted away games makes me even happier we have Staley now and his love of going for it on 4th downs!

@user-lv5rj6ur5o

5 ай бұрын

This take aged like milk

@bisqwikbatter6486

5 ай бұрын

@user-lv5rj6ur5o hey, I'll say this...Staley had zero HC experience and leaves the Chargers with a .500 record, injuries aside, based off the history of the team that's a successful tenure👍

Kinda failed to mention how the coaches he had also had arguably the worst game management that would sometimes put him in those situations

@limjustajokel6269

2 жыл бұрын

Ah yes forgot about the coaching. Dude had a shit oline, shit coaching, shit front office, shit ownership, shit throwing motion, shit mobility, shit special teams, and above all else the dude had shit luck. He fucking loved the game and always left his heart on the field. He deserves HOF because he was able to do what he did in the situation he had. His team and situation and luck sold him out above all else. If some things slightly change, him and the chargers have a ring no dount

@limjustajokel6269

2 жыл бұрын

Doubt*

@loganjackson675

2 жыл бұрын

@@limjustajokel6269 Exactly lol Rivers never had a league average offensive line in 14 years with the Chargers. That’s insane considering that should’ve been their GMs #1 goal with s QB like Rivers

Could you do a is Kirk Cousins a good quarteback?

In my opinion, I think Phil and Dan Marino are the best QBs to never win a Super Bowl. In his last year with the Colts, he brought them to the playoffs, something they hadn't done since 2018 in Luck's final games. And, they almost beat Buffalo. He is what made me a Colts fan and should be in Canton imo. 💯

If Phil had a good special teams... we wouldn’t be asking this question.... dude could’ve led league in clutch wins. But I’m starting to see a pattern.... missed field goals.....

@testingmysoup5678

2 жыл бұрын

Eli and rivers seem so similar. Tough, dominant in the 4q, both on pretty weak franchises. Eli just had a team build on defense and rivers had a team built on offense resulting in higher stats but less results. The results may have been pretty similar if they switched places

I will always wonder why they fired Marty. Man, they were a clown show most of his career. I’ve never seen such bad luck. Rivers would have had so many rings if he played with Pittsburgh

This honestly felt like you went in with a pre conceived notion, and did your best to confirm it, rather than give an honest assessment. The fact of the matter is, from 2008 onward, no QB in the NFL had more pressure placed on them by their organization. Philip Rivers had Philip Rivers. It's easy to look at the box score and think Rivers choked, but any honest evaluation would see that's wrong. Rivers was the only reason any of those games were even close to begin with. The Chargers during that Rivers era are the Browns of that era without Rivers. Every talented player that walked through that door left, or was pushed out for no reason, Vincent Jackson was run out of town despite being the best receiver Rivers had until Keenan Allen showed up, and Allen was injured a lot while Rivers was around. He had gates, but honestly, Gates was kind of a shell of his former self for a vast majority of that time. What you were seeing in those 4th quarters was a Quarterback forced to win games, with subpar receivers, defenses that could not hold a lead, and Kickers who would fuck up 100% guaranteed if it was left up to them. And don't even get me started on the garbage head coaches he had to deal with. The best coach he had was there for 1 season, and the 2nd best head coach was Norv Turner. I honestly want you to truly let that sink in. Norv Turner. The guy infamous for being a mediocre head coach, was the best after Marty got shafted for no fucking reason. I could honestly keep going, I was there for all of it, but I feel like I made my point. I'll leave it at this. Philip Rivers is the Dan Marino of his time, and 100% belongs in Canton, if for no other reason, than as an apology.

Definite hall of famer, best QB in team's history, best QB from 2008-09 and got snubbed from MVP.

as a chargers fan. he is a a hall of famer. he didn't always play the best and made a good bit of mistakes but my team is always inconsistent. and ive seen so many picks that you can blame the receiver on.... like a lot of them..... hes not rodger or brady but if he had the supporting cast he'd have a ring

It's funny how you can locate the exact year that San Diego fires Nate Kaeding simply by how less frequently "missed field goal" is heard from there on out.

Weird, I didn't know that the quarterback was the only player to take the field in the 4th quarter. I thought it was a team sport.

*Rivers* hey coach ima play with a torn acl *Turner* ok we’ll have you throw it 37 times lol

@dizzydwarf502

2 жыл бұрын

That was because there was no running game without LT (terrible O-Lines) and LT was out on sprained ankle that day (after just 1 or 2 rushing attempts). Also forgetting that Rivers also had a broken rib that same game lol

Consistent Barry is 🐐 Barry

I think he is HOFer He may not have been particularly good in key games, but his stats legitimately back up his case. Definitely not a first ballot, but definitely a HOFer

Absolutely a hall of famer

I would have loved hearing Barry talk about the 2010 Chargers special teams. I realize this is a Philip Rivers video, but their special teams were so mind-blowingly bad I would have loved to hear what he would say about it. Like how can a team fuck up so badly as to have TWO BLOCKED PUNTS ON CONSECUTIVE DRIVES WITHIN FIVE MINUTES

Wish we could get you more exposure Barry

@silliestgoober69

3 жыл бұрын

well you know if his take on tom brady(and many others) wasnt so bad he probably would

What is the background music

Football is such a great game but also so sad when legends like this can never achieve championship success. I just wish everyone could go to the HOF

And how many of those game losing last minute ints were on 4th down? Not fair to count 4th down ints as bad plays. Especially 4th and long.

@bsbristow1

Жыл бұрын

He also consistently has one of the worst offensive lines.