At this point and after the damage Mr. Mehdi caused, I'm only watching the sequel of this debate out of respect for Mr. Peter Atkins' knowledge in his field.

@RA-pf2mt

5 жыл бұрын

Me too bro..

@ahmedhasan9212

3 жыл бұрын

Where’s the sequel?

@munshibarkatali8928

3 жыл бұрын

Why everyone is after Muslims We haven't did anything to you guys!

@anushcheema7100

3 жыл бұрын

lol what damage did he cause he knew what he was saying and mr peter has weakest points

@randomguy8647

3 жыл бұрын

That's a lot of damage

looks like the high sparrow from game of thrones lol

@ToxicallyMasculinelol

8 жыл бұрын

+Max Tan hahaha had exactly the same thought

@manav8289

6 жыл бұрын

Nailed it

@furqonalfarid3773

4 жыл бұрын

Yup your right

@shriaanshpathak1440

3 жыл бұрын

Good observation👍👍

@sulaimantankomohammed6258

2 жыл бұрын

😃😃🤷‍♂️👌

While I agree with the opposition's position, I would probably have to say that the Proposer's won the debate. This side just had no one to match Mehdi Hasan. Hitchens or Harris would have been extremely useful for this debate.

@TheMindIlluminated

Ай бұрын

No, they would have been just as bad. Especially Sam Harris, that guy is a tool of the highest order.

This video was filmed 10 years ago, but couldn't be any more relevant than it is today. Europe now faces what this man was talking about, and gets a taste of what radical Islam is.

@hibye7751

4 ай бұрын

Stop generalizing Islam. Of course Hamas is bad, but what did you expect? Did you think Hamas wouldn't do anything? I mean, you want Palestinians to suffer silently right? By the way there are Christian Hamas soldiers lol and Israel bombed the third oldest church in the world (1600 years old), a 600 year old Monastery in Lebanon A DAY before Christmas.

@lunahilang7386

Ай бұрын

brother he said specifically radical islam calm down @@hibye7751

@Arunh9-pw7lp

18 күн бұрын

@@hibye7751but that doesn’t defuse the claims of this gentleman. He was correct in predicting the fate of Europe bcz of Islam!

@Explorist719

11 күн бұрын

@@Arunh9-pw7lp How? Have you looked at the protest. It's not just Muslims protesting against the bombings.

It's extremely interesting, from a "non religious" observation, to read such strong and passionate comments that are stated as facts without the use of correct terminology.

@Resplencemelodi

Жыл бұрын

I don't belelive a follower of a religion that was founded by an illiterate should have any opinion on terminology.

2,716 people have never read the Quran.

@georgerickard5509

8 жыл бұрын

***** The only way of measuring the qualities of a religion is by observing the actions of the believers.

@UndeadTurning

8 жыл бұрын

George Rickard No. You judge them by the scriptures they read to their kids every night before they go to sleep and eventually decide to become allahu snakbar jihadists.

@georgerickard5509

8 жыл бұрын

***** I think he's talking about the famous "allahu snackbar" passage from the hadith!

@georgerickard5509

8 жыл бұрын

***** you're great at detecting sarcasm!

@UndeadTurning

8 жыл бұрын

***** Okay. www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm

Result of the debate: 1- Ignorance is the mother of most prejudices 2- Not recognizing your own ignorance is the mother of most conflicts

Questions: 1- Qur'an teaches peace and freedom of opinion. I agree. But why do some Islamic countries have the "death for apostasy" law? 2- If those Islamic countries have made up the "death for apostasy" law on their own and are misrepresenting Qur'an, then isn't it the responsibility of Muslims to persuade them to stop misrepresenting Qur'an by abolishing the "death for apostasy" law? 3- Wouldn't be easier to promote Islam in non-Islamic countries when no "death for apostasy" law exists in the currently Islamic countries? 4- What guarantees that promoting a peaceful Islam in a non-Islamic country will not eventually lead to "death for apostasy" law after it becomes an Islamic country?

@zaydmia5097

10 жыл бұрын

They misinterpreted a statement of Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W). The "death for apostasy" was made because in the early days of Islam it was a war on the state and the "apostates" apostatized because they did not want to follow the law and become the leaders of the Caliphate unjustly.

@AtamMardes

10 жыл бұрын

Zayd Hussein Mia But some Islamic countries still have the "death for apostasy" laws in place today. Are you saying the whole country misinterpreted the statement and they have not yet realized that they misinterpreted the statement?

@zaydmia5097

10 жыл бұрын

atam mardes Yes, they have misinterpreted the statement, just as Saudi Arabia has created un-Islamic laws such as not allowing women to drive. There are many innovations in Salafi and Shi'i (Iranian) Islam and this is just one of them.

@habiburrahman-of8db

10 жыл бұрын

Islam has death penalty for apostasy and it's procedure is if one muslim converts to some other religion. Then scholars of islam will say to that man to come back to islam if you will not come back then argue with us and let's have a discussion to find which religion is true, I mean that which religion is valid to be followed. If he can prove that the new religion is better then the new religion is valid to be followed but if can't then the scholars of islam will prove to him that islam is the only valid true religion which is must to be followed to go to paradise in the Hereafter. Islam is the only religion which can answer all the questions which can come in your mind. The scholars will convince him for three days to take him back to islam. And if he doesn't come he will be sentenced to death penalty. All those are bullying on Islam are those who don't know about islam and whoever gain the true knowledge of islam converts to islam. Just search and listen to those who converted to islam are the highly educated intelligent men in Europe and America and those converted to some other religion from islam they are those who are uneducated and those who don't have the knowledge of Islam. So my friend feel the difference.

@TheYourtuber1

10 жыл бұрын

Hello, I really appreciate you for asking questions rather than badmouthing like some others on here. Personally, I would recommend that you actually do some more research on this yourself as it might help you come up with an idea of why it exists. However, I will try to answer your question and if it makes sense to you great! if not, well no one can change that. First let me start off by explaining what this law really is and why it is in place in Islamic states. The "death for apostasy" law came into use when atheists and polytheists at the time of the holy prophet(pbuh) used to seemingly convert to Islam and then leave Islam just to spread hate and denounce it amongst the masses. “And a section of the people of Book says, ‘believe at day-break in what has been sent down to those who believe and deny at the day-end; perhaps they may turn away.’” (Qur’an 3:72). They did this because they had extreme animosity towards the prophet(pbuh) they did not like that the Holy Prophet(pbuh) was changing their wild ways and showing them decency, gratefulness etc. Another important thing that I want to mention is that this law only comes into affect when the apostasy becomes public. This is where your freedom of thinking and freedom of opinion/expression separate. You have no limits freedom of thought, however when you start taking action on it it becomes your deed and hence if you become apostate and keep to yourself this law does not apply, if you go out in the public denouncing Islam; spreading lies, hate and encouraging others around you to leave the religion, it results in this law being applied. 1)You are absolutely correct, Islam does teach peace and freedom of opinion, however, freedom of opinion/expression has to remain within the confines of the state in which you reside. For instance, if you are in a proper Islamic state you have to go by their laws, if you are in a western state, you have to follow their laws. The Islamic countries have to keep this law since it is told by the Holy Quran. 2)No these Islamic countries have not made up this law, hence no Muslim denies it because they themselves know it exists. 3)Im not sure I understand this question.. please do reply to me with a clearer explanation. 4)Who says non-Islamic countries will become Islamic countries so soon? or ever? It is not like Islam is being spread and Muslims are trying to take over each and every country..... Come on. Just to answer your question though.. if a country does "decide" to become an Islamic country it will definitely have the "death for apostasy" law. No guarantee that it will not. I know to an outsider it might seem very opressive and destructive of the freedom of a person, but when you get to know of the reasoning and conditions of this law it becomes very clear. Remember that Islam is a very "just" religion so every action is counted for. Also, don't just get stuck looking at Islam through this law... It is a very small detail compared to what the whole of Islam actually is.

should have brought harris, dawkins, or hitchens for a job like this.

@minhaaj

8 жыл бұрын

haven't they been humiliated enough elsewhere ?

@minhaaj

7 жыл бұрын

You mean like he 'skinned' George Galloway at Baruch college? That fat hypocrite can't win an argument from a third grader.

@KINGMJ1990

7 жыл бұрын

Minhaaj Rehman Dawkins was interviewed by Hasan you idiot..Believing in winged horses...some people are still full of shit...

@KINGMJ1990

7 жыл бұрын

Minhaaj Rehman Getting rid of the religion is not getting rid of the people. Science and Pisslam co existing is like Intelligence and Stupidity..

@minhaaj

7 жыл бұрын

And this is exactly the kind of argument every nitwit like you has who believes in scientific fables like big bang. Name calling and clueless distortions.

as an amateur debater, I am curious as to why someone with such level of intelligence, not taking any points of interest?

*If you read Qur'an you are a Muslim but If you understand Qur'an you become Ex-muslim*

@ultraslayer9255

Жыл бұрын

What kind of goofy shit are you on about 😂 I know you ain’t understand the Quran yourself

@GoingToAFuneral

Жыл бұрын

Coming from someone who can’t even understand a 5th grade science book 🤣

@whatawonderfulworld3644

Жыл бұрын

@@GoingToAFuneral kekw trueee

@MohammedAli-pr7hw

Жыл бұрын

Ah yes, the Arabs, who read it in their native language, taught it in their native language and UNDERSTOOD it in their native language, are all becoming ex Muslims. Scholars who study the meaning are becoming ex Muslim too! Makes sense now….

@sultannoor786

9 ай бұрын

Lanat tm pr

Who is here after all 6 debate videos but still is in peace of mind :)

@dumdumdumdum8804

2 жыл бұрын

so what is the final verdict.

@Aafi5haH

Жыл бұрын

Mahdi Hassan was in the debate how could they not win and thats what happened.

@cyberanon2463

Жыл бұрын

@@Aafi5haH He said what's logical. A religion 2 billion members is not gonna be violent.

@khansanaraees.2002

Жыл бұрын

No one

@QaziMunaad

8 ай бұрын

@@dumdumdumdum8804 the majority of the house voted "yes" for Islam is the religion of peace and yea, Islam is a religion of peace

I think the fact that one side was happy to take questions, and confident in their answers, whilst the other refused blankly and appeared frightened to have people point out their blatant errors shows the side that is in the right!

@marcusryden6732

2 жыл бұрын

There is literally no correlation between these facts.

@sheikhjahedulabedin1642

2 жыл бұрын

If there were many god the earth were destroyed many ago. There are many reigion but only islam talk for peace.

@101prashant

2 жыл бұрын

@@sheikhjahedulabedin1642 and does absolutely opposite of it🤣

@DutchmanAmsterdam

2 жыл бұрын

Nonsense, he was just eloquently making his point and disrupting him would have muddied the argumentation like muslims and muslim-apologists always like to do, because they have no valid arguments at all.

@the_dragon_gaming4906

2 жыл бұрын

@@101prashant where does it go against it?

Read the Quran and Sunna and one will see that Islam is anything but peaceful. At its core it is against all who reject it.

@nisaybliss855

9 жыл бұрын

***** because it's the word of God.

@marcelvidale

9 жыл бұрын

There is no such thing as "The word of god" only the word of "men". God cannot write books. Gods are human concepts/ideas - that's it, and like all bad ideas they will have their day.

@nisaybliss855

9 жыл бұрын

***** people have been believing in God since time immemorial. İf it was an idea,or a bad idea as you put it, it would have died by now. Even you , obliviously acknowledged His All mighty existence with what you just wrote above and i quote you,''God cannot write books''. Just remember you are going to stay in the grave more than you lived on earth. And you'll live eternally when you wake up again. Beware of hell fire where people will never die nor live in it. We are certainly from Allah and to him we shall return. My friend ,My brother in humanity, as we are all sons of Adam, even from an economical standpoint, it is better to invest yourself in islam for a couple of years of your worldly life for the hearafter than live as you desire in this world at the cost of the here after which is as long as eternity. I in vite you to islam :)

@marcelvidale

9 жыл бұрын

True humans have long believed in gods. All were invented. Thor, Amon Ra, Zeus, El, Tlaloc + many thousands of Earth, Rain Fire gods etc. As for the grave, ask yourself before you were born was it any amount of time? did you suffer? NO. When we die we return to this same eternal state. Eternity has nothing to do with time. It is outside to time.Hell, like heaven, is another human concept usually used to install fear. There is not literal place called hell. You can test this by looking for it on google maps. You know there is no Allah. Allah can literally do nothing. Test this by asking this most merciful and passionate god to stop others killing in his name. Surely the greatest insult! Or to heal the sick. It won't literally happen since Allah is no more than a made up ideal like all of mankind gods. I do actually study the Quran / Bible and other religious texts. I agree with you on one point. What we have in common is our humanity. Live now - we are NO TIME dead. As-salamu alaykum

@nisaybliss855

9 жыл бұрын

***** the way you study is different, there is where the problem arises. Allah leaves murderers to live for reasons incomprehensible to humans, but I can tell you some, Among his 99 names is the forbearer, so He will wait. Number two is that He waits for them to repent. If He were to destroy people immediately after the commit a sin, there would be no one left on earth. That why, among his 99 names is ''The most Merciful''. He makes people sick so that he tests the people who have the financial power to help heal the sick . The way i studied Islam and the way you studied it is way different. We studied the rationales behind every single verse and found its flawless wisdom. That I think is where your problems arise. By the way, I couldn't help but notice you contradicting yourself again. And I quote you, '' You know there is no Allah. Allah can literally do nothing''. The first sentence disprove His existence, the second one approves it but states his incapability.

Could you imagine even giving this speech today. Even if you don’t agree he should be able to speak. His opinion.

@courseworkdue

Жыл бұрын

What😂 it’s open season on Muslims and Islam and has been for 20 years. Of course you could give this speech today. Change your question to “could you imagine even giving this speech about Judaism” and be intellectually honest with yourself as to what would happen.

@themaskedman221

7 ай бұрын

And you could probably find videos of racists or religious bigots from 60 years ago saying things that would make a modern audience cringe. If he's "not allowed" to give the speech today, it's probably because most of the public has been enlightened on the matter. This side had their chance to debate this 10 -15 years ago, and they lost.

@edwinamendelssohn5129

4 ай бұрын

@@courseworkduedeflection. There is nothing plenty to criticize about Islam.

There will always be those who fight for all the wrong reasons but people should choose to recognize the ones who fight of the good

It was insightful that while those defending Islam as a religion of peace tended to speak longer & without interruption - those opposing them were continually interrupted by these peaceful & patient defenders of Islam.

@aqdasazadshahab8255

9 ай бұрын

Perhaps you need to see all the debates again to realise what "peace" they are talking about. Anyways furthermore it's a sign of peace to argue it out with words and not with actions :)

@betr5236

8 ай бұрын

Bruv, the " Mehdi Hasan | Islam Is A Peaceful Religion | Oxford Union " had many interruptions. What are you talking about?

@samkev5246

8 ай бұрын

It's Oxford.. that's allowable... They had to be corrected with the misinformation they were spreading, in Oxford misinformation cannot go unchallenged and blend into academia.

@halladba101

8 ай бұрын

@@betr5236 yeah exactly bro, like what are they trying to imply???

this man has a crystal clear thpughts , and what can only be described as a beautiful intellect.

I see in the 'About' section that 286 voted that Islam is a religion of peace and 168 voted that Islam is NOT a religion of peace. My understanding is also that this event is one held by the prestigious Oxford University. I see this as evidence that leftists have truly destroyed some if not all of the great educational institutions. Because this 'issue' is not actually a truly debatable one. To be of the opinion that Islam is peaceful is to be completely ignorant of Islam. From it's founding 'prophet' in the 7th century to the current year of 2014, Islam has been and is a religion of violence, murder, rape, oppression, conquest, intolerance, deception, and destruction. There is so much evidence of this that a 'post' is nowhere close to sufficient as a medium to carry this knowledge. Because there are mountains of material evidence that can be brought to bear. I believe the confusion occurs when we hear the cliché that it is just a tiny fringe group of extremists that make Islam look bad. This is the great lie that is allowing Islam to flourish. As I said I don't have near enough space for all the proofs, but ask yourself this question; how often do you see this question debated with the subject being atheism, Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, or any other belief system? There is a reason for that........ Want more on the vile filth of Islam? post me back.

@franksanders9638

10 жыл бұрын

Hamza ISIAM How did FOX news become my source? Do you deny that Muhammad married a 6 year old girl when he was 50? Do you consider that the behavior of "the perfect man"? Do you know the story of your "prophet" when Aisha showed him the woman who had been beaten so badly by her husband that "her skin is as green as her dress"? Would you like to be the one to share the response of Muhammad in your next post? Do you deny that the Islamic caliphate was built on wars of conquest against the infidel in accordance with the teachings of your "prophet"? Do you deny your religion has the death penalty for apostasy? How do you feel about all the lives lost due to the worldwide riots over cartoons? If you like I can send you some lovely links to Imam describes the proper beating of wives, Qur'an quotes that call for violence, or perhaps you'd like to tell me the penalty in the Islamic state of Iran for "acts of homosexuality? Pedal your disgusting filth elsewhere. Oh and by the way when I set up the links here don't bother telling me that western scholars cannot properly translate the Qur'an. I know it's just another lie the Qur'an tells you to use with infidels.

@bigHamras

10 жыл бұрын

the hate has being rooted. she was 9 when he had the first sexual relation with her but if you claim such a stupid old claim i heard 100 times before you should ask if she was ready,if she past the age of puberty,if marrying a girl younger than you was something strange in the past read the history many kings and queens married at a very early age,why his enemies at that time who insulted him with all kinds of words but none of them say kids raper or something similar ? if you have a some knowledge on science people living in a sunny place like desert get on puberty in a very early age and Qurach and medina are in desert (science says not quran not me.) plus the fact that humans are different we dont have the same shape or the same body or the same mentality so dont judge ppl by their age judge them by their character and brain. I would like to answer all your questions and believe me i can but unfortunately you are not the only one who claim such a cheap claims and miss-quote the Quran. if i start explaining every point you brought we will go in endless conversation and pointless (from my expirience with haters of islam ) so i would rather suggest that you stop on the hate and with an open mind study islam and the "sira nabawia" life story of islam and muhammed(pbu) from the right source and make sure its not against or with the islam

@bigHamras

10 жыл бұрын

2st comment bullshit talk about islam like excepted ... where are evidence at i dont know i prefer we meet at the judgement day whatever you believe in it or not its happening inevitably. peace im done with the stones

@franksanders9638

10 жыл бұрын

Hamza ISIAM Didn't bother with any of the links? of course not. Don't care to answer any question about Islam I asked? what a shock. didn't bother denying a single accusation? no, of course not. It registered with you that I am someone you cannot fool with your lies about Islam. What is that word?? the one for lying about Islam to infidels? Oh and what is the word for the special tax that non-Muslim's must pay?

@madz5281

10 жыл бұрын

k

look at these worms, they try to interrupt him every 15 seconds. i wonder WHY

@saltypork101

8 жыл бұрын

+Toxically Masculine "Point of information". That means he's literally said an incorrect fact.

@KaziAnanda

8 жыл бұрын

+Toxically Masculine A pathetic uneducated Dipshit wonders Why??? Fucking Hillarious LOL

@mimo4856

8 жыл бұрын

they don't have answers to the questions duh. Watch Hassan's video, he answers every uneducated anti-Islamists questions.

@LonDanDoc

8 жыл бұрын

+Toxically Masculine the point of information is part of debating tradition if you dont know about it dont speak

I've noticed that only those arguing FOR the proposition allowed any questions or points by the other side.

@ahmadusman4775

2 жыл бұрын

Both sides were allowed questions as expressed in the first opposition debate. The fact that one side did not care to ask questions says more about their lack refutations than any bias.

Love his books.... physical chemistry, quantum mechanics , thermodynamics..........

@thomasmills3934

2 жыл бұрын

...what? Did u listen to the video?

@ahmedayser461

2 жыл бұрын

Lmao

@eddieyan3017

2 жыл бұрын

Lol

@eddieyan3017

2 жыл бұрын

@@thomasmills3934 He is being very sarcastic, meaning his expertise is in science and not religion.

@mo.sharif1

Жыл бұрын

Exactly, he should stick to his field instead of berating other faiths.

Love his book, Physical Chemistry by Peter Atkins. I owe my B.Tech degree to him.

@rafiulalam2390

4 жыл бұрын

And unemployment too?

@americannomadnews5370

4 жыл бұрын

I shall put it on my list of books to read however I must submit that he owes a debt like your to him to the golden age of Islam. thank you for informing us of Mr. Atkins book.

@VoidShell123

3 жыл бұрын

@@rafiulalam2390 I m a Muslim too But don't go on insulting someone . Then it wouldn't make any difference of having a debate of Islam as a religion of peace when we not so good Muslims go on insulting others.

@zerksez9963

3 жыл бұрын

Yea that's the point. He should stay at chemistry. I doubt if anyone can defeat him there. But this is not his stage and he didn't defend brilliantly

@neoahmadfebramsyah4682

3 жыл бұрын

Why do they bring professor of chemistry to a debate about religion? Interesting choice

I'd like to see you debate "Christianity is (is not) a peaceful religion"

@hamidrana085

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly. And to honest, I'd love to participate in it...!

@deVeresd.Kfz.1515

4 жыл бұрын

Don't you live in a Christian majority country?

@deVeresd.Kfz.1515

4 жыл бұрын

@@larknoone565 Yes, Christianity 2.0 is the Church of England which is filled with neocons and liberals like Boris Johnson that looks towards secular humanism. Only the original version that the Apostles lived by, which conservative Evangelicals have adopted works. So no to pornography, sex culture, and Marxism. We need to bring back our old British culture and maintain it, not have liberals start porn industries to destroy it and split families apart.

@deVeresd.Kfz.1515

4 жыл бұрын

@@larknoone565 It's not, you just never read the Quran or the Bible, that's your personal opinion to favour your worldview. You're just assuming, and I could say the same about secular humanism that western non-theists live in, they're rather not good at living by it because if they lived by it radically, they'll be more like Joseph Stalin. If you want sex, leave the country and go wherever. Many Gen-Z chaps are waking up to take back our European nations. The UK, mainland Europe, and the United States are European and the cultures are European. Our Western laws weren't written for Wahhabis, Salafis, and atheists anyroad. They were written for Calvinists, Roman Catholics, and Orthodox Christians.

@wRolo

4 жыл бұрын

haha exactly

Yes's: 286 No's: 168

@kingramenxiv9850

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you

@cyberanon2463

3 жыл бұрын

It was expected after Mehdi's speech

@echoe4806

2 жыл бұрын

@@cyberanon2463 Mehdi’s speech cannot save the women that are beaten and oppressed in Islam, the people that live in poverty and extreme poverty, the apostate and gays that stoned to death etc.

@cyberanon2463

2 жыл бұрын

@@echoe4806 Except islam is not the one to blame. The Qur'an forbids you from killing someone just because they are different gender or they have a different sexuality. Obviously it is not allowed being gay but allah will do the right thing when the time comes. There is literally a chapter in the Quran dedicated to talk greatly about women

@echoe4806

2 жыл бұрын

@@cyberanon2463 That is the problem with the Quran.It says one positive thing and 3 pages later the opposite letting everything go by interpretation… Muslim Ottoman Empire conquered and enslaved my ancestors in South Eastern Europe. They also killed 1 mill Armenians in 1915.

what did the audience member say at 3:48 to make everyone laugh?

@Unicorns

4 жыл бұрын

"Draw me a picture of Muhammad"

@ani589

4 жыл бұрын

@@Unicorns underrated comment

@Nigtarr99

3 жыл бұрын

@@Unicorns draw me a picture of donald trump.

"I can't" LOL!? Come on, dude. take questions if you are confident enough!

@stargun7235

3 жыл бұрын

Ikr

@mohamedafzal9980

3 жыл бұрын

@@black_jack_meghav Mehdi Hasan did take. Check at 9:30 of his debate.

@ssksm8919

3 жыл бұрын

Black Jack 21 yes he did ! He just didn’t take ann marie’s interruption because she didn’t take his either

@Aysevem

2 жыл бұрын

@@ssksm8919 he did later take it

Hahaha, the reason why some people think that the proposition keep on interrupting is because the main points of the proposition are correct and the opposition cannot POI them while the opposition can't answer back the POI that the proposition team gives.

Would u mind quoting the complete verse?And yes dont forget not to mistranslate it.

The thing is the longer people put off this problem and delude themselves that it does not exist, the more likely those kinds of solutions will be required. EVENTUALLY something will have to be done. It's kind of exciting I guess, but then I don't live in Tower Hamlets. Must be a nightmare mate. Worst area near me is Hounslow (20mins drive away). The demo next month will be the most 'frontline' I'll have been in this thing, bit scary but I'm way too invested now not to attend.

For anyone who has experience with the Oxford debates, do the opposition debate for the sake of the debate itself? Specifically, is Peter Atkins arguing for the side claiming Islam is not peaceful because the debate needs some one to debate for that side or is it what he truly believes?

@notreallydavid

8 ай бұрын

Hi. Atkins would never adopt a point of view merely to make up the numbers in a debate. He loathes religion, and has often written and spoken about Christianity in remarkably hostile terms as well.. Best regards

The stage presentation is on point lol.

The law of abrogation means the Mohamed's early peaceful verses are superseded by the later warlike and violent ones, this was not mentioned! Why?

@mohammedghander9243

3 жыл бұрын

Islam is a relgion of good values and peace; the main concept of Islam based on :mercy, peace and forgiveness. As regarding, that there are 100 verses or references In Quran Indicate that Islam is not peaceful religion, that really misconception and totally untrue T have read Quran multiple time with analytical way throughout ten years, I have found out that any mention of using violence was only as a defense "a defensive war " when aggression against Muslims happened at the time of the messenger Mohammad, or else Islam was obliterated at its cradle. As for the narrative saying :"Mohammed commanded to fight people till they Believe", that saying Contradict with Quran verses so that keep to Quran verses and not be confused by the narrative of the extremists who take the Quranic Verses out of the context distorting the message of the peaceful and merciful religion ;Islam. God says : O Mohammad, l have sent you only to be mercy for mankind and other creatures " verse no. 21, Chapter no. 107. Verse no 256 chapter no. 1- says : " No coercion in accepting religion, it is" now the truth (Islam) has been distinguished from false relgion ". Chapter 109 verse no. 6 Say (Muhammad) to disbelievers : " you have your religion and I have my religion " As for women right according to Islam religion they more powerful in Islam than other religions and they accept Islam much more than men, The first person accepted Islam was "his boss" a powerful woman ( Muhammad 's wife ;khadiga) As for chopping hand, flogging This punishment was made difficult To put in force and no longer relevant according to Islam concept. As for stoning, stoning not mentioned in Quran. Quran revealed in Arabic language The words of Quran in itself miracle ;unmatched and unrivaled so that its difficult to translate ; each one word packed with meanings Please read it carefully, more and more!!!!!!!!! Muhammad ghander 27th of May 2021

"I disagree with what you say, but I will fight to death to protect your right to say it.” Voltaire 18th century. “I disagree with what you say, and I will fight to YOUR death for your duty NOT to say it.” Islamist 21st century.

It's strange hearing a guy speaking about Islam when he co-wrote one of my chemistry textbooks

@ghostpubgmobile7745

3 жыл бұрын

And Muslims also happened to have started the modern chemistry😂

Peter Singer (one of the world’s leading atheist ideologues) shows that determining sex to be licit on the basis of “consent” also justifies bestiality. Around the year 2000, Singer was criticized for his positive review of a book by Midas Dekkers called Dearest Pet. Dekkers is a popular Dutch intellectual public figure who was initially a biologist. He is known for his particular affection towards animals. Singer was accused of advocating for bestiality as well, because he said that the issue with sex with animals is not so much related to morality but rather cruelty. He argues that if there is no cruelty, a person can take part in “mutually satisfying activities” with their animal.

very weak defence!!!!!!!

@cyberanon2463

3 жыл бұрын

No can stand against Mehdi. He is a man who knows what he is saying.

@kiranthomas5944

2 жыл бұрын

Are you sure it is only a minority that is radical?

@VirtualStoredzd

Жыл бұрын

@@kiranthomas5944 math are pretty easy : devide the nmbr of possible radicals by the nmbr of all muslims (2 Billion in 2023) the nbr of radicals won't reach 20 thousands. that's 0.001% of the population and that's far less then the nbr of muslims who are suffering in China and Myanmar. If we suppose that there are 20 million Muslims between China and Mianmar then : nbr of radicals / nbr of muslims who suffers = 0.1%

It's a shame this video has so many dislikes. Peter Atkins marshals his argument well and without evident bigotry or diversion from facts.

I am curious as to where I can be informed of the final result of the vote conducted in his session. If anyone knows the result and would be kind enough to let me know, I would appreciate it.

@larz28

10 жыл бұрын

The motion was carried with a Yes vote of 286 against a No vote of 168.

@MzLoathsome

10 жыл бұрын

larz28 Why thank you, I shall trust your word :)

@larz28

10 жыл бұрын

Trust no one ;) counterjihadreport.com/2013/07/22/the-oxford-union-debate-on-whether-islam-is-a-peaceful-religion/

@byrdale

10 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Iarz. I also pondered this result. Good to see the good people at the Oxford union came to the only logical conclusion and rightly so.

@larz28

10 жыл бұрын

You're most welcome. (Wait, was someone just civilized on a KZread comment ?)Yeah, pretty interesting outcome.

The Quran says in sura 25:63: ( The worshippers of the All-Merciful are they who tread gently upon the earth, and when the ignorant address them, they reply, “Peace!” )

@yousefissa9135

3 жыл бұрын

@Baked Beans big genocide part in Qur'an? Can you mention it? I have never heard about one verse of the Qur'an that has the word genocide in it.

@yousefissa9135

3 жыл бұрын

@Baked Beans But if you're talking about the actions of certain Muslim civilizations in the past, first of all i disagree and i don't believe that any Muslim civilizations ever committed genocide and second of all, let me remind you of the Crusaders that committed genocide publicly in Jerusalem 1099 CE

@westsideslasha

3 жыл бұрын

@@yousefissa9135 Quran 8:12 I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve so strike upon their necks and strike every fingertip Quran 9:5 Slay the infidels wherever you find them. Lay siege to them, take them captive Quran 9:29 Fight the Jews and Christians till they pay you the poll tax and they feel subdued Quran 9:33 Islam has been made to prevail over any religion Quran 9:73 Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home, an evil fate. I could go on

@the_dragon_gaming4906

3 жыл бұрын

@@westsideslasha in 9:73 this is a reference what to do in war. Islam dosent claim to be a pacifist religion but that doesn’t mean we go attack others. Once we are in war or someone attacks us we will fight to defend ourselves. I suggest before u go and showing verses go read the whole Quran then learn its meaning. Because in a chapter which is mentioning war it will say stuff like that.

@sawcrab2249

3 жыл бұрын

​@@westsideslasha Dude that's like saying "OMG they killed people during war times! How horrible!" These are, as @Dragon_Gaming said, meant for war times. If someone is attacking you you fight back so you don't, uhh, die? Quran 8:12, in its entirety, is "[Remember] when your Lord inspired to the angels, "I am with you, so strengthen those who have believed. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieved, so strike [them] upon the necks and strike from them every fingertip." We wish to be strong in the face of opposition. Words of encouragement are not signs of a war-mongering religion. "And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful." I simply can't believe that you left that last part out. IF THEY REPENT YOU FORGIVE. Such a horrible religion, how could they forgive and release prisoners that apologize? A non-peaceful religion would not have 4 whole months where you are not allowed to be non-peaceful (sacred months). Don' just point at things you have to look at context as well. "Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled." Fight against the non-Muslims in war times, how unexpected. Of course YOU SHOULD FIGHT YOUR ENEMY. If they attack you attack back. "It is He who has sent His Messenger with guidance and the religion of truth to manifest it over all religion, although they who associate others with Allah dislike it." What kind of religion says it ISN'T the true religion. Christians believe that they are "the" faith. Jews believe THEY are "the" faith. Hindus believe they are "the" faith. Muslims believe they are "the" faith. What's non-peaceful about that? " O Prophet, fight against the disbelievers and the hypocrites and be harsh upon them. And their refuge is Hell, and wretched is the destination." Be harsh upon your enemies in wartime, we are not pacifist, we use violence is certain contexts like Mehdi Hasan said. Please, show me more.

Ishmael may have come from Abram but that is where it ends. Mohammad was not in the line of Issac Jacob or Jesus. He inserted himself into the line calling himself in essence a Jew. Both Jews and Christians totally reject all the teachings of Islam.

@lilwayne19

10 жыл бұрын

if you look at the old testament my friend its actually quite similar to the quran, and abraham preceded the times of the jewish and christian religion. everyone follows one god which is what islam is about. and Muhammed did not insert himself anywhere PHUH, he is the final prophet, and im sure we could say the same about the church "inserting" saints for you to worship AFTER your religious text was sent you from the lord. dont be hatin homie just do some research.

@lilwayne19

10 жыл бұрын

i dont think so. stop drinking that haterade loser. lol alberto stroller youre probably racists too go make some friends in real life

@lilwayne19

10 жыл бұрын

no no no youre done. just a hateful lonely old man with nothing better to do then hate-monger. live your life get out there and be the best you can be im sure you have loads of potential

@lilwayne19

10 жыл бұрын

sure you are sir sure you are. Aren't you a little old to be saying dude sir dont fool all these people here trying to sound young. you wont fool me!

@lilwayne19

10 жыл бұрын

relax old man cool your jets before you break your hip

People actually think Medhi won this debate? He spent 13 minutes avoiding talking about muhammed's example.

@personifiedape5347

3 жыл бұрын

It’s a KZread echo chamber. It’s very well saying western Muslims are peaceful and not oppressed but it’s very different in Saudi Arabia that still lives with medieval values.

@ericsonofjohn9384

3 жыл бұрын

@@personifiedape5347 Islam teaches medieval values though, that’s the problem. To be a moderate muslim you have to ignore your prophets example, so moderate muslims dont prove anything

@ericsonofjohn9384

3 жыл бұрын

​@@mr_ander_3989 You obviously didn't dissect islam very well. (1) You refer to quran 5:32 to prove islam does not support terrorism? The verse is: "That is why We ordained for the Children of Israel that whoever takes a life-unless as a punishment for murder or mischief in the land-it will be as if they killed all of humanity; and whoever saves a life, it will be as if they saved all of humanity". - Muslims love quoting this verse without understanding it. It DOES NOT APPLY TO MUSLIMS. It applies to the 'CHILDREN OF ISRAEL'. The children of Israel are NOT MUSLIMS, they are jews. If you had bothered to read the very next verse (5:33), you'd have seen this peaceful gem: "Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and spread mischief in the land is death, crucifixion, cutting off their hands and feet on opposite sides, or exile from the land." One might ask: 'What does spreading mischief mean?' Well thankfully, the Quran elaborates, in surah 4:89 it says: "They wish you would disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so you may all be alike. So do not take them as allies unless they emigrate in the cause of Allah. But if they turn away, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them" - so the quran orders the execution of apostates who leave islam and try to convince others to do the same. (2) You same some rubbish about chopping off hands depending on the society we live in. The Quran is supposed to be perfect is it not? So don't tell me following the quran depends on what society you live in. The society you live in does not change the inherent immorality of the quran's commandments.

@mythical524

2 жыл бұрын

O disbelievers, (1) I do not worship what you worship. (2) Nor are you worshippers of what I worship. (3) Nor will I be a worshipper of what you worship. (4) Nor will you be worshippers of what I worship. (5) For you is your religion, and for me is my religion." (6)

@neutral5566

2 жыл бұрын

@@ericsonofjohn9384 no absolutely NOT that's not the case

I didn't understand anything he said. 🙄

@siim605

3 жыл бұрын

That says a lot about you, Emmanuel.

@siim605

3 жыл бұрын

@Keo Ramey No mercy, huh? 🤣

@Nigtarr99

3 жыл бұрын

Yea the guy is like i-i- a-a-a m an islamphobic.

@siim605

3 жыл бұрын

@@Nigtarr99 That's not a real word, sorry.

@Nigtarr99

3 жыл бұрын

@@siim605 ahh i see an islamphobic sorry i got better things to do.

What was the heckle at 4:35?

To Imagine Better Things : I loved reading your monologue, which is factually based. I think some may have thought that I was an apologist for Islam. I am not. As an ethnic Armenian, I assure the readers that I had not forgotten about the Armenian Genocide of 1915-1917. But, facts are facts. It had NOTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM any more that the genocidal policies of the English toward the Irish in the nineteenth century had to do with Christianity. The Armenian genocide was squarely the (Part 1)

@benitocarmelo4296

2 жыл бұрын

where is part 2 bro

@JacobMrox

Жыл бұрын

I left my country because of Islam for being Gay and Apostate even though it doesn't have declared punishments in the law, but the constitution says Sharia law is source of jurisdiction and as such I'm silenced and discriminated upon. ISLAM is a BAD RELIGION. It has clear declared punishments for apostasy and homosexuality and blasphemy and clear Jihad verses and hadiths and the Biography of Mohammed and interpretations of Quran support this.

@georgesingh2737

Жыл бұрын

but the turks wanted to enfore islamic doctrine on non-beleivers and your forgetting the british were renowned at easily avoiding famines but letting them happen

@vehement-critic_q8957

Жыл бұрын

I'm a Muslim Sunni & I condemn the Genocide of Armenians or of any other ethnicity. I thank you for your impartial & honest stances towards Islam. Peace from Kuwait, we've a large Armenian community here, actually, the son of the Armenian Ambassador is our friend & he's a frequent attendant to our diywania & our different religions have never been a misunderstanding between us.

@DongDoesntExpand

5 ай бұрын

The Armenian genocide was not based on religious beliefs, it was a conspiracy by the famously incompetent Enver Pasha to blame the Armenians for his poor military skills. There was a whole propaganda campaign in the Ottoman Empire, accusing the Armenians of conspiring with the Russians to sabotage the Ottomans. That was obviously not true and I would not expect anything else from current and future politicians who follow a Nationalist ideology.

Yoh... this guy is brave...🤯

James. Can I copy that so i can use that for a reply to all of them who try that? thats a brilliant observation.

What were the results - can't find them?

@sanjanafarahchowdhury3799

3 жыл бұрын

Its written in the description box, MOTION: THIS HOUSE BELIEVES ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF PEACE. Yes's: 286 No's: 168 Filmed on 28/02/2013

What did that person in the audience say around 4:18?

@mrimbord

4 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure but I think she asked if he could speak louder

lol, I love how the speaker says a blunt "no" multiple times to the rude guy who says "point of information" and interrupts.

@lilwayne19

10 жыл бұрын

he says no because he's afraid of being proved wrong. if he really wanted an open honest debate he would entertain those "interruptions" if he was confident in his information

@nodinitiative

10 жыл бұрын

Abdalla Ramadan nope, because if he answered their "interruptions" then his time to speak would be spent on answering their interruptions instead of explaining his case.

@Emitts_Official

2 жыл бұрын

point of information is a rude interfer? lol it's a valid action approved by Oxford then the college is Rude?

@Ahmadabdal_

Жыл бұрын

@@nodinitiative if the other side answered most if not all questions and still took less time than him. He was afraid of being proven wrong.

In Bolivia, a Suez company (Aguas de Illimani) left 200,000 people without access to water and caused a revolt when it tried to charge between $335 and $445 to connect a private home to the water supply. Countless people were unable to afford this charge in a country whose yearly per capita GDP is $915. Unfortunately, the IMF and World Bank are playing a key role in pushing water privatization all over the world. Many countries have been required to open up their water supply to private companies as a condition for receiving IMF loans, and the World Bank has approved millions of dollars in loans for the privatization of water systems.

Hi BeHealthy, Kudos for your level-headed response, and I'm sorry that someone has used the underhand youtube tactic of flagging your response as spam. Will drop you a message later as would very much like to go through some of the more disturbing & seemingly, deliberately divisive stuff I've read in my copy.

I fail to understand why it's so hard to answer some questions from the audience.

@Ahmadabdal_

Жыл бұрын

Because all of his arguments can be dismantled with 3 questions

@yuvanraj2271

8 ай бұрын

@@Ahmadabdal_ Nah, because he don't have time and don't want to deviate from his topic which he prepared.

George Bernard Shaw:I have always held the religion of Muhammad in high estimation because of its wonderful vitality. I have studied him - the wonderful man and far from being an anti-Christ, he must be called the Savior of Humanity. I believe that if a man like him were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world, he would succeed in solving its problems in a way that would bring it the much needed peace and happiness.

@sudiptabhattacharjee2052

Жыл бұрын

You're right. That's why his followers' countries are at peace and they are emigrating to non-Muslim lands like cows.

The Hindu text Sushruta Samhita, written in 600 BCE, is filled with detailed seminal descriptions of surgical procedures and instruments that are conceptually used today.

Where are the results for this debate?

this is debate not reading lmao

@cyberanon2463

3 жыл бұрын

Ikr

@nigina5627

2 жыл бұрын

It is really hard to go head to head because they have little time each. They are reading their notes and speeches and are trying to to get their points and information accros as quickly as possible. That is probably why they do not accept questions. I all though do understand your statement, it would be more for filling if they had more time.

@cyberanon2463

2 жыл бұрын

@@nigina5627 but mehdi was speaking way more with barely reading any and he still answered questions

@astudent8475

2 жыл бұрын

@@cyberanon2463 He is great

@cyberanon2463

2 жыл бұрын

@@astudent8475 mehdi? Yeah he is

you're wrong my friend!!

@jazbeasley8249

4 жыл бұрын

Quick English how?

@MohammadAliKhalil

3 жыл бұрын

Jaz Beasley 🥱 sucks not to be enlightened. Just have an open heart

Can you pls explain me guyz ,,wht is the logic behind Hizab and White Cap?

can someone explain it to me what he said still don't get it

Even though its easy to pick up the Quran and read it like a Jane Austen novel, theres a lot more involved with reading it. People have dedicated their entire lives to analyse and understand the Quran, and they have said that you need to understand 4 key elements, 1) Arabic grammar, 2) Pre Islamic Arabia, 3) historical context and 4) Islamic jurisprudence. Lezlie Hazleton (a Jewish lady) describes her experience as 'a tourist in the Quran' i would recommend her video on TED talks to understand

@lennydale92

Жыл бұрын

So it's not a book "for all time and all people ".?

@diabloakland

11 ай бұрын

@@lennydale92 precisely. The Quran is something i have studied my entire life. My parents decided to forgo formal education and enroll me into Islamic school from age 3. I have left Islam. I’ve spent decades studying this from teachers, everything I’ve learned culminated into me leaving the stupid religion i was born in. I studied Arabic for years too. Islam is horrible.

@VixieShadowX_sngbrd_X

8 ай бұрын

@@lennydale92 it actually is but a lot of people ignore the faults in their understanding when reading the quran. once u understand its good to go. but you cnat sya it is if u dont undertsand

@spregged7231

Ай бұрын

@@VixieShadowX_sngbrd_Xconsidering it took forever to get English copies made of it, I’d say it very much isn’t a book for all people.

algorithms allowed this, oh and research algorithms

I didn't know you called me brother before. Wow, 4 languages, impressive. So what's the best example for your holy book to be the literal word of god?

@jimothy1994

2 жыл бұрын

The fact that it has scientific facts that has been recently discovered by science while it was mentioned in the book before science even existed and it would have been impossible for someone to know based on the level of education and information ppl had during that time?

What did the person shout out in the crowd that he replied 'no I can't to'? about 4.10 in

I am very happy to see that there are some people that can discuss a issue without saying rude words. You are among-st the few people that take a issue seriously and don't start saying mean things when saying something. People are always rude when I talk about Islam but I always try to never say rude since it is against Islam. Be they be Muslims or non-Muslims are try to be nice since its always good in any case. I hope all the best in the future and have a blessed day.

@adcrane

5 ай бұрын

It's one step. I'd be happier if they spoke true words. The cheery picked, sanatised version of the Koran they refer to has no basis in truth. The Koran is fundamentally violent. It calls for violence. Demands it.

I cannot understand how these Muslims refuse to take responsibility for their actions. This speaker totally NAILED IT so hard that it hit many a nerves. People don't like their delusions being tampered with.

@4:30 what did the audience member ask?

@optionsupdate

10 жыл бұрын

I thought that was what was said. he did not commit himself, very dignified I thought

When today’s jihādis punctuate their deeds with “Allāhu Akbar,” are they just advertising the Matt Groening character? And when Al Qaeda’s Mustafa Abul-Yazeed said “If the Americans agree to our conditions....we would offer a long truce, say ten years. Then we will ask them to become Muslims and if they refuse we will impose the jizya,” was that just cultural? How about Ayatollah Khomeini when he said “Islam says: Whatever good there is exists thanks to the sword and in the shadow of the sword”?

This is not an opinion, it's a fact

As I told you before: Keep insulting me if this seems to make your day and keeps you happy! If only you would have a point - you don't even have a "coma" - LOL! I'm not bothered by people of your habitus. Have a great day ...

How do I get the complete lecture of all the People????

@AkidulIslameditor

4 жыл бұрын

Playlist *Islam peace debate*

dont get the points of informations is bro you are interupting his reading

Peter Atkins is an example of a notion that being a professor at Oxford, being an intellectual in the field of chemistry one can still be profoundly stupid and ignorant.

@axomthugyt9803

3 жыл бұрын

Offcourse you would say that

@jihadi_wizard9189

3 жыл бұрын

Bonti Chetia Konwar. You are ignorant have you read the Quran

@eddieyan3017

2 жыл бұрын

100% agree!

I have 100% respect for this amazing Oxford University Physical Chemist. I own and have used his Physical Chemistry textbooks to the nth degree and will utilise them for life! Well done Professor Atkins. 100% agree with his opinions on that Islam.

For God's sake, stop posting these bits and pieces. *A debate is a debate* It's a whole thing, to be taken hook line and sinker. Showing just a part of it is like playing one movement of a symphony. I expect more from Oxford.

So.... What was the voting? Where is the rest of this debate??

Well done, sir. If you need to ask the question, then you already know the answer.

One side had young, energetic speakers and the other had dusty old people. But realistically, the presence of muslims in the audience and their greater proportion in the crowd, led to people feeling unable to applaud as enthusiastically as they would like to the opposition's points, I believe.

@amaniyausman8056

5 жыл бұрын

and yes the opposition side not taking even one question from the audience shows how incredible these opposition points were!

What was the vote?

8.36 over speakers left shoulder, in the wooden panel, is that an image of Jesus or Mohamed?

You see what you want to see. In our times, it is easier to be fooled by the kind of information that comes to us. It's easier for someone to believe that sikhism is a peaceful religion, because of the acts of the believers. But I am sure that there could be loopholes and some faulty believers too. History speaks for itself. When it comes to religion, all of them are the same: they talk about the same principles and the way of life. Almost all start with the most basic axiom: God is one. So it boils down to how people interpret the teachings and more than that, how well are those interpretations broadcasted.

@donovanvaz3289

7 ай бұрын

Your reference to Sikhism is amply amplified by the recent news of the killing of a Sikh in Canada. He was an extremist who believed in Khalistan - a land for the Sikhs. You look back at the history of the calls for Khalistan and you'll see many atrocities carried out in the name of establishing Khalistan. BUT I do not say therefore all Sikhs are aggressors. The same as I do not say all Islam followers are aggressors either.

@891Jasmine

7 ай бұрын

@@donovanvaz3289 ummmm! While I do agree with you on the last bit, I posted my comment three years ago and so it is not “amplified” by the recent news!

thank you Bernard, I think all of us experience this kind of thing from time to time, usually born out of prejudice which could not exist without ignorance. there are some muslims like that too -- we're all human after all. I believe they are still a minority, thank God, though admittedly, rather hard to ignore.

Muslims when they come to developed countries the regime is not the same as in their home back. they are not to blame.but i think evolving in society changing your strict regime is necessary if you want to succeed in the current world.muslims should develop its thinking of an individual mind who really believes in Islam from their heart and not by the regime or culture or by force or any brutal punishments should be in a court.

i can't ... how can i get use to it when i know it's a lie

The young adults where highly disrespectful.

@Ahmadabdal_

Жыл бұрын

Why? Because they wanted to ask questions and point of information when he was spouting BS?

" ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF SAFETY " -QURAN :- 9 : 6

@paulgrant666

Жыл бұрын

for who?

Little knowledge is dangerous .... Islam is complete code of life , we must penetrate ourselves in depth of Islam...

@m.dthedemon4076

Жыл бұрын

Very true, brother. That is why people need to have experience & study something with somebody who is part of that thing, like Islam. Lack of knowledge creates concern, concern creates fear, fear creates ignorance, & thus a new & unnecessary argument is born. But indeed, no matter what people say whether they like it or not Islam is a true & peaceful religion & Allah is & will always be the greatest. Ameen. 😌🌿

@paulgrant666

Жыл бұрын

it's a cult. a dead end of thought.

its interesting how the panel opposed to "Islam" is totally opposed to answering any question/challenge given

What's up with the extreme amount of dislikes?

@NorAbuFrieh

10 жыл бұрын

Oh! You just reminded me to dislike.

@jordanfirst1990111

9 жыл бұрын

usmh Because we heard it unlike u. U just liked its title :P

@bowser515

7 жыл бұрын

Because it's easier to write off somebody questioning your beliefs, than to engage them constructively and consider their points.

@roadtocrown5700

4 жыл бұрын

Ucmh mostly Muslim watching this All non Muslims don’t know about this topic and think they r safe Until islam goes 51% in the country and sharia law is on implementation Then everyone will say How did that happen Google the below What is taquiyya and what islam uses taquiyya for They r very uncomfortable with that What Mahdi did is exactly taquiyya Be liberal until uk has more than 50percent Muslim Then run away quick They will butcher non muslim

@jankymcjangles3817

4 жыл бұрын

Muslims are angry and trying to force their religion on us as usual.

Muhammed- The Islamic prophet was a violent warlord. "The Prophet had suddenly attacked Bani Mustaliq without warning while they were heedless and their cattle were being watered at the places of water. Their fighting men were killed and their women and children were taken as captives" (Bukhari 46:717) Although there are many reliable accounts from the Hadith and Sira that mention the Mustaliq grazing cattle, not one mentions Muhammad making any effort at peacemaking. In this case, Muhammad's men raped the women (with his approval) after slaughtering the men (Sahih Muslim 3371). What does raping a female captive have to do with self-defense? In many situations, Muhammad waged war for the purpose of revenge, such as the attack on the Lihyan, in which the people were clearly not prepared for war and saved themselves only by fleeing into the hills (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 718). Muhammad also attacked the people of Taif as soon as he had the opportunity to avenge their rejection of him (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 280 & 872). Also disproving the myth that Muhammad only fought in self-defense is the account of his first attack on the Christians. There was no compelling reason for him to send an army to Muta (in Syria, where they met with disaster at the hands of the Byzantines). Had this been a matter of self-defense, then the enemy would surely have followed the routed army back to Arabia, but this was not the case (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 791). Near the end of his life, the prophet of Islam directed military campaigns for the mere purpose of spreading Islamic rule. He knew that some cities would resist and others would not. He left instructions to his people for dealing with each case: "The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: If you come to a township (which has surrendered without a formal war) and stay therein, you have a share (that will be in the form of an award) in (the properties obtained from) it. If a township disobeys Allah and His Messenger (and actually fights against the Muslims) one-fifth of the booty seized therefrom is for Allah and His Apostle and the rest is for you." (Sahih Muslim 4346) As can be seen, those who were not at war with the Muslims are to be subjugated anyway, and their property seized. The only distinguishing factor is the extent of Muslim entitlement following the victory.

@somerandoontheinternet4938

10 жыл бұрын

of course he did,the quraisy people has gang up on prophet Muhammed pbuh first killing alot of women and children....so,U have a brain.GO FIGURE.the women and children were kept hostage but been taken good care of ,brother. P/S:they started it first though...you study before type stupid things,brother.

@JohnFisher55

10 жыл бұрын

Jannah Aqilah There was ZERO effort at peacemaking or conciliatory. Muhammed only had a demoniac agenda to conquer the masses and this stated with the tribes the non believers, infidels. Read the entire texts and you will find this. There weren't always motives to his killings, and wars he started against the people. Muhammed was a violent and deluded individual.

@somerandoontheinternet4938

10 жыл бұрын

now tell me,do YOU have solid proof.if you ahve one SOLID proof.tell me and I will believe U.

@JohnFisher55

10 жыл бұрын

Jannah Aqilah There is plenty of proofs in the hadiths; I will provide more scripture based proofs. There was no way Islam could have spread so rapidly without violent efforts; same goes for Christianity; except, Islam was totally different.

@AmosbenDawid

10 жыл бұрын

These are ahadith that you are quoting....they're not even authentic...I don't care if they are considered "sahih". Mohammad even said himself that "no one is to write anything down except the Qur'an." The Qur'an itself warns people to not follow any other narrations (ahadith) except what is in the Qur'an. Of course hadiths displays bloodshed and so forth. Hadiths are fabrications invented by the method of the chinese whisper style. They were created to give power and political stance by using religion as a tool. I'm aware that you didn't use a single Qur'an verse...since of course no one can truly find anything that established the fact that it is teachings of evil. Especially when the Qur'an gives justification why certain tribes had to be destroyed, due to their tyranny and oppression over their own people. Only the righteous and pious people were spared..those that instill good and forbid evil.

Prior to 1930 and Edwin Hubbles discovery the interpretations were this - "...With power and skill did We construct the Firmament: for it is We Who create the vastness of space.... " (Surah 51:47). Yusufali "...We have built the heaven with might, and We it is Who make the vast extent (thereof).... " (Surah 51:47). Pickthal "...And the heaven, We raised it high with power, and most surely We are the makers of things ample.... " (Surah 51:47). Shakir CONTD -

Who won the debate?

He've been reading all his speach and did not take any questions! Quite pathetic for a professor!

@legendgamers7065

3 жыл бұрын

@Yellow Submarine huh

@legendgamers7065

3 жыл бұрын

@Yellow Submarine like why you deleted y0ur reply?

@legendgamers7065

3 жыл бұрын

@Orla jekins you people are great in making excuses

@legendgamers7065

3 жыл бұрын

@Yellow Submarine what's your excuse lol and why you deleted it though you people can only make excuses that's the most thing you can do while ISLAM PROVIDE YOU ALOT OF SOLUTION THE LAUGH IS ON YOU

@legendgamers7065

3 жыл бұрын

@Orla jekins that's enough to prove your ignorance and how bigot you are PROPHET MUHAMMAD(S.A.W) DID NOT DIE FROM A POISON JUST A LIE BY PHOBES THATS ENOUGH TO TELL HOW MUCH IDIOT YOU ARE

I think it's worth pointing out to everyone commenting on this video that not only is there a peaceful sect of islam, and that not all muslims live to the letter of the koran, but it's VERY important not to become a victim of your own confirmation bias. Always keep an open mind and use the evidence, not your emotions, to come to a decision on things. :) Also, flagging people as spam because you don't agree with their views is pathetic. You can't have a debate with one voice.

Why were people interrupting so much? It was annoying.

why so many dislikes? to ''thumb up'' the video means more than just appreciating the content of the video or something...

i felt that he would not allow anyone to talk/ask any questions while he was talking because he knew that he would not be able to answer them back lol

@the_dragon_gaming4906

3 жыл бұрын

@@Cecilia-ky3uw no he just dosent want to answer. none of them do. only mehdi answered questions

"A good man can select according to their appetite, trouble is that bad man can select accoding to their appetite too" that's just proves free consciousness in Islam. you've killed your whole argument at the beginning 1:25

@siim605

3 жыл бұрын

No, it proves that Islam isn't a religion of peace, but also a religion of violence. Decent people will reject the worst doctrines of Islam, while awful people will indulge and accept them.

@afah6850

2 жыл бұрын

@@siim605 backward thinking.

@siim605

2 жыл бұрын

@@afah6850 Wrong. Backwards thinking is to make excuses for a religion where execution for apostasy and stoning for adultery are mainstream prescriptions.

@afah6850

2 жыл бұрын

@@siim605 bro this sentence here twisted as fuck, and I do believe rapists should be shot or hanged; so, you're ok with your SO sleeping with others: swinging perhaps.And, show me someone that was executed for execution.

@HumanistCandy

2 жыл бұрын

Point is Islam has no home nor place in a civilized world. It is a book that was made for barbaric tribes of the middles east in the Middle Ages and only applies for that era and time and never in our time.

Look no one knew any better back in the day and thought gods did this and that but look at how much we know now it's time to grow up. Winged horses, raising from the dead, zeus with lightening. Time to grow up everyone

@zahidulislamdu3609

2 жыл бұрын

i agree but we will be raised from the dead at when all of our souls will collect

I believe that the true essence of a debate is to answer questions where there are doubts, besides the objective of laying down our own point. I disagree with how the opposition is misrepresenting Islam, but that isn't my sole reason behind disliking it. The major reason is their refusal to answer questions, despite the fact that I noticed the woman, as well as Daniel interrupting the first speaker, as well as Mehdi Hassan, to which they both politely and wisely responded. If you cannot back up your arguments with proofs and if you cannot answer questions, due to your 'lack of points' or 'lack of knowledge' in the field, then one should stay away from arguing for or against the point of debate. This is what I believe.

@siim605

3 жыл бұрын

Such a long comment with so little substance. Color me shocked.