I just love how much Michael Shermer is enjoying this. His own speech and his presence here is really complementary, I’m glad he was invited.

If god existed there would be no need to prove his existence

@user-ci9te3yt6t

2 жыл бұрын

Prove me that God doesn't exist?.

@walterdaems57

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-ci9te3yt6t 1) god does exist. In one form or another under the roof of your skull and there he should reside and be protected because once he leaves these very limited surroundings he is bound to dissolve in thin air 2) you never asked for evidence to belief in god to begin with so you can only care even less in proof of his non existence 3) disproving the existence of a non existing entity would be a nonsensical undertaking without a limit. You can’t ask me to disprove the existence of the Easter bunny, Santa Claus, Father Christmas, pixies, elves, trolls, goblins or god. 4) you believe in a celestial wizard so the burden of proof rest on your shoulders

@thestruggler7926

2 жыл бұрын

It's funny since this comment reminds me of many people who believe Earth is flat while trying to prove that it is.

@walterdaems57

2 жыл бұрын

@@thestruggler7926 be careful with your memories because they clearly lead to nonsensical conclusions

@LancesArmorStriking

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-ci9te3yt6t God of the Bible? Sure. God as a supernatural being? Unfalsifiable. Moot point.

Having seen all 6 videos in this debate, I have to say that the side who argued that "there is NOT a God" won by a landslide if you analyse the arguments from both sides. It was almost painful to watch at times because the difference in quality of the arguments was so clear and obvious.

@WaqarAhmad1.

5 ай бұрын

Then you had to list all the contrasting arguments and mark right and false with your related perceptions. You had a mind-shift from only an aggression on the floor...

@Chickennuggie1498

2 ай бұрын

@@WaqarAhmad1. wot?

@steveb5331

2 күн бұрын

Doubt it

@Chickennuggie1498

2 күн бұрын

@WaqarAhmad1. ?

@rasmuslernevall6938

2 күн бұрын

@@WaqarAhmad1. Late answer here, but I didn't understand the last sentense of your original reply. Could you please clarify?

What's the difference between an invisible, all powerful being that exists outside space and time, and nothing at all? No difference at all.

@hhhuthhhjj5599

2 жыл бұрын

wutt? if you don't know the difference then i pity your brain

@mikev4755

2 жыл бұрын

Your inability to comprehend the existence of God does not disprove God. It only illustrates a lack of understanding on your part.

@Ignirium

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikev4755 Reserving a place for the possibility of something unknown to exist(God), doesn't mean it exists. extreme open mindedness. Our ignorance cannot be used to positively state the existence of something we cannot demonstrate, that's silly.

@donaldsmith7824

2 жыл бұрын

Here we have recognizable, measurable gullability, seriously gods in outerspace!

@drmontague6475

2 жыл бұрын

Ask religious people have they ever had a wet fart i.e. shit there pants by accident. If so then why do they believe in an intelligent designer?!

What I expected in the comment section: Religious debate What I got: People complaining about the twat in the background.

@rgibbs421

8 жыл бұрын

+peronkop It's cause the debate was over before it began. This debates are for entertainment.

@peronkop

8 жыл бұрын

RG Yeah, bashing religion has really fallen out of fashion ever since feminism began going apeshit.

@cockneyherbert5123

5 жыл бұрын

Hahaha he’s such a fat twat. I love him.

@StukaUK

5 жыл бұрын

Well he is proof there is no god, so it's fairly relevant.

@borisrivera24

4 жыл бұрын

peronkop 😆🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

lol That emo kid

@simonin3d

7 жыл бұрын

/r/iamverysmart

@SocialmotionMedia

5 жыл бұрын

His diety is awesome! haircare products

@k0smon

5 жыл бұрын

Jo//// Have AIDS yet?

@lightbeing8174

5 жыл бұрын

Kosmon Not if wears a condom protection is key

@k0smon

5 жыл бұрын

Moth//// Abstinence works even better.

The problem I have with these debates is that the opposing sides are addressing quite different topics.

"For the time will come when men will no longer put up with sound doctrine instead to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to hear what their itching ears want to hear. . They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths." 2Timothy 4:3=4:

I find it quite disturbing that in this day and age people believe in God, heaven, angels and the devil. It really is preposterous and infantile.

@mandkhuli5775

8 жыл бұрын

+Alan Knight no wonder people in this day are more evil and cunning, because they dont believe in god.

@GeneralBlackNorway

8 жыл бұрын

+mand khuli But if you look at the modern countries of the world you will find they are ever increasing in secularity and these secular people are ever more moral and ever more eager to create a good world! You would realise that by this modernising process evil is ever receding and the places in the world we see as true strongholds of evil are also strongholds of religious dogmatism... No wonder the world is becoming a better place when science and knowledge wins forth as it enables us to effectively live together with ever less conflict in mutual benefit. The same cannot be said about belief in God as it will never achieve this!

@mandkhuli5775

8 жыл бұрын

GeneralBlackNorway ya right. people are more cunning in this world. what century are u living in? and the whole thing is not only about this world but after u die as well.. god does exist,, so even if u think god believers r evil, they will still go to heaven,, where will u go after death?

@alanknight8992

8 жыл бұрын

+mand khuli That's complete nonsense, there are people who believe in God commiting atrocities all over the world. Please pick up a history book and read about the Conquistadors and many more.

@mandkhuli5775

8 жыл бұрын

Alan Knight yea i know god believers commit crime too.. but god doesnt preach that, so all that say they r religious and commit crime, they are hypocrites

Peter Hitchens isn't a patch on his brother, who is sadly missed now. .

@aqrmiale

4 жыл бұрын

@AllSeeingEye ofGod god is the big gay

@juliewake4585

4 жыл бұрын

Chris England of course.

@pomegranatepip2482

4 жыл бұрын

AllSeeingEye ofGod you are delusional my friend.

@johnmorris1764

4 жыл бұрын

He's the polar opposite

@hexagon9895

4 жыл бұрын

@AllSeeingEye ofGod so where did he get the tigers from.

Guy in the Background: ”it’s not a phase mom ”

"Why did god wait 13.8 Billion years to develop a species that have a relationship with him?" Right!! Also, the body language of the twits gives everything away, they know the jiggy is up. Can we all just get along without a god, it's time to move on.

@melvis-channel

2 жыл бұрын

Welcome to determinism and ultimately nihilism. You now have to label things like love, hate, good and evil as mere human conventions. Good luck with your humanism. Wouldnt it benefit humanity if we got rid of say 5 billion people? Why not? Maybe hitler was on to something with his eugenics, would'nt the human race benefit in the long run? Why should we take care of the sick? I mean they are the weak and should not survive according to your darwinian materialism. You want there to be no God, but benifit from a society built on the belief of a god. So next rime you use the word good or bad, think about what/whose standard you are using?

@cagedgandalf3472

2 жыл бұрын

@@melvis-channel Yes we want the "benefit" from a society built on the belief of god/s. Yes we do. I want to. Yes. Very beneficial 10/10

@cliffordchapman801

2 жыл бұрын

@@melvis-channel Society built on the belief of a god? What, that vindictive, psychopathic bastard of the book of ancient texts masquerading as divine wisdom?

@melvis-channel

2 жыл бұрын

@@cliffordchapman801 welcome to moral relativity, you are sawing off the branch you are standing on. Why would you care if something is vindictive? Why care about anything? In a chaotic universe with no purpose anything goes. The end of the road for you is nihilism. Ask yourself why you cant stop thinking about God?

@Ignirium

2 жыл бұрын

@@melvis-channel you're being silly

2000 years later...you'd think this would be common sense by now. Do we need 2000 more years for reality to set in?

@TN-te5jr

4 жыл бұрын

Mario Miceli most likely not but most still will or some will due to people not being intelligent designed but rather dumb animals that have become intelligent due to their environment and experience with their surroundings and community and lifestyle changing to better than ever in history of the world but of course not for all due to nothing being perfect cuz if 💯 is perfect then what about 101% or 200% even though it’s not necessary but is more.

@hanksy2201

4 жыл бұрын

It may well do.

@johnhines1336

4 жыл бұрын

It's well beyond a joke and then some

@Jdubski-dk7ml

4 жыл бұрын

In 2000 years god and jesus will be considered as mythical as Thor and zeus but unfortunately someone will find a buried harry potter book and think he is god all over again

@harrytaylormartialarts

4 жыл бұрын

God saved me from suicide and drug addiction, But I agree with the problem with religion in the video

Why not debate the existence of the Tooth Fairy? It's just as pointless. Amazing that otherwise intelligent people still believe in this claptrap.

@gunnerkicks6590

6 жыл бұрын

you are a moron

@jaredprince4772

5 жыл бұрын

The tooth fairy does exist. I have a personal relationship with the tooth fairy. Whenever I have lost a tooth, the tooth fairy visited me in my sleep and gave me money to show me that I am special and all my teeth are worth some small coins. I know it's the tooth fairy because the money was under my pillow and I didn't wake up when the money miraculously was left and the tooth taken. Thank you, tooth fairy for the many coins you have given me.

@charlesforster2221

5 жыл бұрын

MSM4U2POM 3

@xxMrBaldyxx

5 жыл бұрын

The tooth fairy, Santa Claus, big foot, unicorns and God are all equivalent really. There is zero evidence or reason to believe in any of them.

@nixodian

5 жыл бұрын

Insecurity, the whole reason they believe in talking snakes, donkeys, bushes, 700yr old building a ship and gather 2 of every animal, including poison dart frogs, lizards, snakes, tigers, hyenas, zebras, gazelles, crocodiles,,,,,,,,,,it gives them a meaning in life

"It is only at the semantic level that we really have meaningful information; thus, we may establish the following theorem: Theorem 14: Any entity, to be accepted as information, must entail semantics; it must be meaningful. Semantics is an essential aspect of information because the meaning is the only invariant property. The statistical and syntactical properties can be altered appreciably when information is represented in another language (e.g., translated into Chinese), but the meaning does not change. Meanings always represent mental concepts; therefore, we have: Theorem 15: When its progress along the chain of transmission events is traced backward, every piece of information leads to a mental source, the mind of the sender." Dr. Werner Gitt (Former Head of the Department of Information Technology at Physikalisch-Technische Bundesanstalt, Germany)

@avakinkayycali877

Жыл бұрын

When I stopped believing in Santa, I never went to go convince others kids he wasn’t real because I knew it for a fact! And didn’t care if others did or not!! The need to convince people is just the subconscious hope that if other people agree with you there’s a better chance that you are right. But to tell people that for a fact God does not exist at all because you just know so much is actually more bizarre than saying he does. God doesn’t want religion he only wants your LOVE ❤️ if you were staring death in the face and there were no others to convince , would you still believe it yourself that there is no God? Or would the fear of what’s after death be enough for you to realize that the feeling of Love that is a universal human language is in fact from GOD

The analogy of the baby and compensation is fucking golden.

@danielsanabria6770

3 жыл бұрын

you should watch the debates of Dr Ed Feser and Dr William Lane Craig about God in which they debate against atheists and although the videos are long and advanced it's worth it; they change many opinions and prejudices that atheists and agnostics have about Theism, with those debates I realized that the defense of God is much stronger, rational and deeper than even I believed. They show how it’s totally possible to be rational, analitic and at the same time defending God's existence. And the reason why specifically the Christian religion would be the true one is because of the resurrection which is almost a historical fact, you can watch debates about it and see how the defense of the resurrection of Jesus is rationally strong.

@andycapp8843

11 ай бұрын

@@danielsanabria6770 ….the resurrection is almost a historical fact? Almost and fact are opposites! Your argument leaves doubt and with it no proof the story is true.

I like how the ads are for Christian based programming lmao

@patrickkelly7085

4 жыл бұрын

The adds in your country maybe but advertisers in Britain realise that the market they are aiming their adds at are not influenced by fairy stories.

@eddiebuster10

3 жыл бұрын

Thought that was only me seeing that. I was like WTF, don't need none of that 😂😂😂

@supanuh

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly!

@leosoftware2643

2 жыл бұрын

Rather than spend money on the poor they advertise. Disgusting. Look how much money the Vatican has and they're doing nothing to advance mankind.

@ramphularved3785

2 жыл бұрын

Every good action you do is the best definition of God.if whatever u sow u reap where is that fraud that someone visible or invisible is going to interfere. A WORD TO THE WISE. Thks.

"Religion was invented when the first con man met the first fool"~Mark Twain

@user-lo9si5dx8t

4 жыл бұрын

"Stupidity was invented when first stupid man read the bullshit of the first deceiving man" By Me. People waited for you and Twain to tell us that religion was invented, all the people who are religious are stupid, that leaves you and Mark Twain as the smartest in town.

@GregarringtonArrington

4 жыл бұрын

Tom Riviere Tom River OG Arrington retrospect your comment it's seriously funny excellent excellent in other words, witty Tom Cat is saying someone peep game and then ran game wow back to the study

@smilezshoulders4485

4 жыл бұрын

The wrong one was Christian maken ppl believe in all cultures. So bad for that

@smilezshoulders4485

4 жыл бұрын

I agree. It was to control

@user-du7pe6pm7d

4 жыл бұрын

Religion is right == god is NOT a religion == what would he be ? ! and who and the fart was this mark vain = any way ? ! hahahahaahaha

*A sublime one from Lord Kelvin:* _The more thoroughly I conduct scientific research, the more I believe that science excludes atheism._

@Chickennuggie1498

6 ай бұрын

As an agnostic i’d say it equally excludes theism. Especially biblical and islamic thiesm.

@atheism-themoststupidrelig5703

6 ай бұрын

@@Chickennuggie1498 *Another good one from Kelvin:* _if you study science hard enough and long enough it will force you to believe in God_ *Buhahayoura65yearolddemonicballetdancerAndrewEldridgewithmainYTchannel "ergonomover"*

@Chickennuggie1498

5 ай бұрын

@@atheism-themoststupidrelig5703 Another argument from authority. Great intellectual evidence…

@atheism-themoststupidrelig5703

5 ай бұрын

@@Chickennuggie1498 *You flooded YT with arguments from the authority of "scientist flanders" which is one of your t-rolling accounts.*

@Chickennuggie1498

2 ай бұрын

@@atheism-themoststupidrelig5703 No i didnt, where is your evidence?

Anyone know what motion they were debating for?

The results: “143 for the proposition, and 168 for the opposition.” The atheists won! That 54% - 46%

@TheBullemore

10 жыл бұрын

***** I’m not worried about that; I’m worry about what theists are doing to our kid’s education. In 800 AD the intellectual center of the world was Bagdad. All the advances in engineering, biology, medicine, mathematics was there. Our numerals are called Arabic numerals. Arabs invented Algebra, Algorithms is an Arabic name, etc. They were advanced in astronomy, 2/3 of the stars have Arabic names. But something happens in the XII century, science was replaced by revelation and religion stupidity, this people leaders in science, nº 1 in science are now on the bottom of the list, and they haven’t recover since. This is what religion does. In the 50s, a new leader in science was born, the united states of America, now the leadership is threaten by the same religion stupidity, if we don’t do something we are going to go back to the 19th century, we are heading to the bottom of the list thanks to religious beliefs. That is why people like Laurence Krauss, Neil deGrasse Tyson and many other bright science are fighting against theism. That is why religious people don’t understand the arguments of Atheists; they have a very narrow view. Another thing that religious people tend to do is lie, and believe their own lies: You said that there where more atheist in that debate, how do you know that? Perhaps revelation? The debate divides the house in two, one side for the motion and the other against. If one side of the house won is because people in the other side vote for their motion. Check the Oxford Union debate rules.

@Tinker1950

10 жыл бұрын

***** What undiluted rubbish - the theists won! What utter piffle, what utter divorce from reality - which is of course a definition of a 'believer'.

@coolhat8517

10 жыл бұрын

***** Theists haven't come up with any new arguments forever. Atheists are crushing theists intellectually. Sorry, but asserting that the theists had the best arguments here is just wishful thinking. Religion is flailing...and dying. It's happening fast now. It's good.

@WealthGiantAcademy

6 жыл бұрын

When was the vote?

@MegaSage007

5 жыл бұрын

@@coolhat8517 Why do we need new arguments when you were born into a designer finely tuned universe obviously set in motion and maintained by a vastly superior being when Atheism has always been a bankrupt faith based religion with the default unscientific position of a self creating self designing universe. God continues to make his case daily surrounding us with evidence of his power and brilliance. Yours is simply a voice for rebellion and moral anarchy. Atheists have never formed a happy State.

The resurrection didn’t even convince people who lived those days since they crucified him and they still think it’s a proof of god now.

@mecanopasensa660

3 жыл бұрын

Why hide the body? What prove to show he ever existed, then why go away? but never returned?

@eliot451reade5

2 жыл бұрын

Lots of dead people came back to life. In those days death was more like a temporary disability than like a permanent state of affairs.

@elroyfudbucker6806

2 жыл бұрын

@@eliot451reade5 "Lots of dead people come back to life". You are surely joking, right? They're called zombies & it used to happen in the Caribbean. And why was death "more like a temporary disability" in "those days"? Why is death permanent now? And who got to be reincarnated & who stayed in the ground to rot & decay? What were the necessary requirements for reincarnation? You are either a troll or you're a seriously deluded person desperately trying to justify belief in your faith.

@Ignirium

2 жыл бұрын

@@elroyfudbucker6806 no, he's being satirical by taking it literally, which isn't wrong. Jesus's resurrection was not unique since many people were making the same claims, thus it's a common and boring if it's all true. lol

@paulwilson1121

Жыл бұрын

The Resurrection of Jesus Christ IS the Proof of His Sonship of God the Father... It was Prophecied many times in the Old Testament that He would die and rise again... Jesus Himself, told His disciples 5 times, that He would rise again after 3 days... When this came to pass accurately, He showed Himself alive to over 90 people... Even Thomas one of His disciples, didn't believe He would rise again.. But, when Thomas saw Him, he fell down and worshipped Him... The Resurrection is an established fact of truth...

I've been in a few of this religions and now I stop going cause it really was not doing nothing for me God was not no where, I use to sing Christian songs and they made me fill empty. So I stop and started taking responsibility for my own actions believing in myself and applying everything to believe in myself and I fill whole again n now that I believe in myself I believe in others n have a beautiful peace of mind

@finixmoon127

22 күн бұрын

Happy for you !

Please share with other people my two brief videos. Thank you!

Final point is the best; if we have souls independent of our brains, why would god need 13.7 billion years to evolve our physical brains?

@mandkhuli5775

8 жыл бұрын

+uncleanunicorn this is not the only planet with life in universe. and time exists on earth. theres no time in space.. think about it if u have brain

@uncleanunicorn4571

8 жыл бұрын

mand khuli wtf?

@mandkhuli5775

8 жыл бұрын

uncleanunicorn obviously, your knowledge is limited

@uncleanunicorn4571

8 жыл бұрын

mand khuli As is your ability to communicate ideas in the English language.

@mandkhuli5775

8 жыл бұрын

uncleanunicorn the topic is not about my english here is it?????????????????????? is it????????????????? and english is not my first language anyway

was this motion carried or not? where can I find that kind of info? not in the description

@davidgafo

7 жыл бұрын

oxfordstudent.com/2012/11/16/union-debate-this-house-believes-in-god/

@BarbaraManor

7 жыл бұрын

Dave - Thank you so much!

re: fine tuning, "Look!", said the puddle, "How perfectly the shape of the ground fits me. It could only have been made specifically for me! How glorious!"

@andrewdouglas1963

Жыл бұрын

Puddles have no intelligence and don't think. Humans do have intelligence and know your analogy is ridiculous.

@Scion141

Жыл бұрын

Perfect.

@havenbastion

Жыл бұрын

@@andrewdouglas1963 Not all humans.

@andrewdouglas1963

Жыл бұрын

@@havenbastion Good point.

“Nonsense remains nonsense, even when talked by world-famous scientists.”

@geoden

2 жыл бұрын

Not many world-famous scientists espouse religion. but those who do, are in decline.

@johngallagher8775

2 жыл бұрын

Belief in an all powerful, all loving and all knowing invisible being is about as nonsensical as you can get.

@geoden

2 жыл бұрын

@@johngallagher8775 Yes, that's evidently true!

@johngallagher8775

2 жыл бұрын

@@geoden logically you can pick two out of three...

@geoden

2 жыл бұрын

With the name you have, your bias is clearly showing, therefore not worthy of consideration.

HEBREWS 11:1,”FAITH IS THE SUBSTANCE OF THINGS HOPED FOR,THE EVIDENCE OF THINGS NOT SEEN”.

@thomasmaughan4798

4 жыл бұрын

@Jubei Yang "How do you know that it is evidence when you have not seen?" I see a tree bending, leaves fluttering. That is the visible evidence of unseen wind blowing. It really is just that simple. The idea is that you probably do not see God, but you can see the *effects* of God. The problem of course is discerning God. For instance, someone might have a string tied to the tree making it move and flutter, and it wasn't the wind. Sometimes the *evidence* isn't entirely conclusive. In this context, one *hopes* for salvation or eternal life or even just a bit of happiness in this life, and the hope is sustained by some evidence which everyone can see but which you interpret as signifying the existence of God.

@thomasmaughan4798

4 жыл бұрын

@Jubei Yang "Are you that stupid?" *NO* (see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridge%27s_law_of_headlines ). Now if you were to quantify exactly what level of stupidity you mean I could give you a more nuanced answer. "you see the effects of the wind so the same applies to God?" yes, that is precisely so. At least you understand the analogy. You cannot see gravity, only its effects. You cannot see electricity, only its effects. You can see only a relatively narrow range of wavelengths, 400 to 600 nanometers (more or less) all other wavelengths are invisible to your eyes and senses but you can see their effects. Wind is moving air, its effect is manifest only when something *resists* the moving air and as a result energy is transferred from air to object, or in the case of a fan or blower, from object to air. So it is that God can presumably both accept and source energy; but how you *interpret* that energy is unpredictable to me. At any rate, it should be obvious that it is impossible to say that this is not so, that there is no God; for you have little or no idea what is the nature of that interaction, and if God chooses to not interact with you, then for you he does not exist or might as well not exist.

@thomasmaughan4798

4 жыл бұрын

​@Jubei Yang Contemplate for a moment two goldfish in a bowl or aquarium. One is trying to persuade the other of the existence of "water". The second says, "There is no such thing as water, prove it to me!" How is that to be done? It cannot be done; for both fish have been in water their entire lives and consequently don't even have a name for it. There is no boundary condition by which to detect it. But the first fish leaped out of the tank and was quickly rescued by something with five fingers, who the first fish named "god" but was Billy rescuing his pet goldfish. At any rate, the experience showed the fish the existence of NOT-water, by which the existence of water was bounded and defined. So it is that many people live in constant contact with God their entire lives not once realizing the nearly omni-presence, and if it was entirely omnipresent then nobody would detect it. But occasionally someone steps out of the light and perceives the darkness, and on perceiving darkness, also perceives light. Now between you and me, what exactly do you mean by stupid? I who see more things than you, or you who are blind? You are correct; my enhanced sight makes me more responsible for my decisions and actions; your limited vision somewhat excuses your choices because you cannot choose a thing you do not see. For that you are excused.

@thomasmaughan4798

4 жыл бұрын

​@Jubei Yang You must be one of the goldfish." Yes, and so are you. "You meant to say that God can be felt, touched, smelled and seen?" Yes, if he wishes it. you either have to go where he is, which is difficult to impossible, or he comes to you, which is possible but rare. "Even the goldfish see the water, feel it, smell it and swim in it." Water cannot be seen from the inside. I am a SCUBA diver among other things. What you see is not-water (dirt, fish, plants). You feel it but will not have named it "water". It simply *is* whatever it is and doesn't need a name. Have you named the baryons in which you swim right now? Probably not. "Where's your God?" Where ever he wishes to be. I am not his secretary to know where he is right now. "Can you feel him, touch him, see him, and smell him?" I can if he wishes it. Feeling is the easiest, next after that is seeing. Touching is extremely rare and I've never yet met anyone mention smelling him. That would probably be a sign of not-God. You have repeatedly failed to mention "hearing" which is the most common reportage regarding God. I shall include it for completeness. "You are even more stupid than your goldfish" Thank you for this opportunity to demonstrate my politeness as compared to your rudeness. "because the goldfish understand that they could not leave the water." So you are a "goldfish whisperer", knowing the thoughts of goldfish. That's interesting.

@thomasmaughan4798

4 жыл бұрын

​@Jubei Yang "You are more stupid than the goldfish." Seems like I've encountered those words before. Oh yes, your previous comment! It didn't work then. Perhaps it will work now. "When the water recedes and the goldfish cannot get oxygen from the water, it struggles to breathe." Ineed it does. "When its body is exposed to air, it knows that death is not far away and it will swim to deeper water." I think that *knowing* is an exaggeration but yes, it will instinctively seek out water more to its liking. "Goldfish are not stupid like you." Perhaps. But who are you conversing with and what does that make you? "Your God is omnipresent but you can't see, smell, or touch him." Well, mine isn't omnipresent. Your mileage obviously varies. "When I push your head understand water and you struggle to breathe, no God to help you!!!" I expect as much. He's more of a scientist; observes human beings, doesn't interfere much. "There's no God to save you." Agreed. I do not expect God to save me from assassins. What he is much more likely to do is to alert me to their presence. Gods do not save humans. Humans save humans. I should advise that I use the word "God" in a somewhat generic manner to mean any of many possible metaphysical agents that have the power to inform me of things. It is also likely that what you believe "God" means is different than what I mean by it; which is what makes these conversations so entertaining.

How can anyone defend something that cannot be properly defined? Believers can not tell us what God is, they can only tell us what God is not. "God is invisible, timeless, spaceless, immaterial, and beyond human understanding". So why are you wasting your time by trying to understand God? Why even bring God up, if God, and nothing, look exactly the same?

@jmg94j

7 жыл бұрын

"God is omniscient, omnipotent, is love and is good...". That is not defining what God is, that is just telling us what he is capable of, and what kind of personality he has. Try again.

@JohnWick-bm7fc

7 жыл бұрын

HAHAHAHA OK Try this on for size. Describe me any person without telling me their personality or what they're capable of. You can't. They're inextricably linked. You're just stupid.

@JohnWick-bm7fc

7 жыл бұрын

LOL God is a person man that's the simplest definition ever... too bad you got hit on the head as a child stupid fool

@jmg94j

7 жыл бұрын

There is a difference between, "What is a homo sapien?" and "Who is Mother Teresa?" The Question is "What is God?" If God is a person then, where is he, dipshit? Why can't we meet him?

@JohnWick-bm7fc

7 жыл бұрын

LOL Because THIS particular person has attributes that a normal person doesn't. If that blows your damn mind, get off this thread you intellectual midget. Go read your skeptic magazines LOL

I enjoyed this argument

Out of fear of unknown do people still believe in the existence of a superior being somewhere in space

can i watch the whole debate somewhere`?

@The_Miniatures_Scholar_Journal

3 ай бұрын

after 10years i got the same question

Start taxing the religious institutions and they will start questioning “God”.

@gortnewton4765

5 жыл бұрын

Akshay Rathod Start taxing the atheists and they will start questioning their “atheism”.

@jesus7es7dios7

4 жыл бұрын

depends on the believer.... however, in their heart there is still the uncertainty of God's judgment... and maybe... just maybe in yours as well... if God is not real and the Bible is not real then Christians didnt lose much during their lifetime... but if God is real and what the Bible states is true about an eternity, then whole bunch of people are gonna be very shocked one day.

@thetruthchannel349

4 жыл бұрын

*The best thing that could EVER happen to people of TRUE faith would be the DISAPPEARANCE of what you call RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS. So, I completely agree!*

@thetruthchannel349

4 жыл бұрын

*Incorrect. In 1962, the Supreme Court ruled that atheism is a religion. Atheist organizations ARE tax exempt.*

@thetruthchannel349

4 жыл бұрын

"Thefethette Star1 month ago @Phillip Hickman just because i don't agree with you, doesn't mean I'm a nasty human being smh" Agreed. Your being a nasty human being makes you nasty

9:00 this view really makes me think, what if there is a new kind of physical object, which is atemporal, somethink so increadibly remarkable and different from everything we know, which was the reason behind the beggining of everything, maybe it could be a stronger generalization of the notion of a field, or maybe it could be a structure so different we would need a new Michael Faraday in order to reaveal it for us, and when humanity finaly discovers it, future generations of scientists would look at us and say "how they couldn't see it?", it could be something so different that perhaps not even the mathematical tools in order to describe it exist in our era

*One beautiful and true saying from Pasteur:* _Too little science leads away from God, while too much science leads back to Him_

@Chickennuggie1498

6 ай бұрын

That which can be asserted without evidence can be refuted without evidence

@user-pc4uo3df5i

6 ай бұрын

@@Chickennuggie1498 *Brilliant, that applies to your myths.*

@Chickennuggie1498

6 ай бұрын

@@user-pc4uo3df5i What are my myths?

@Chickennuggie1498

5 ай бұрын

@@user-pc4uo3df5i Thats what I thought.

@BerishaFatian

3 ай бұрын

​@@Chickennuggie1498 I bet you don't even know what evidence will convince you. As an atheist you just live by slogans but have no idea what they mean.

Believing in god is like wishing upon a star or asking a wall to help you lift a chair.

@ashley_brown6106

2 жыл бұрын

Lmao yeah you'd like that to be true wouldn't you😆😆🤣

@goldenwombat2159

2 жыл бұрын

Asking a wall to help you lift a chair? What the hell sort of analogy is that.

so what was the end vote result???

@Stefan_Cosmin

4 жыл бұрын

54% for atheists and 46% for theists Atheists won! Lol

What you don't know doesn't exist, according to your perception of reality. And if in fact God reveals himself to some and not to others, it is smart to understand this situation 😕

then where does the universe come from?

My biggest question, if god was allknowing and almighty....why he didn’t just gave us all physical constants etc.?

@LetsFollowGod123

Жыл бұрын

Have you ever read the bible? Just read and study the bible.. Don't assume things, so just read the bible. And your questions will be answered. Don't want to? Stay blinded...

@LemonDani

Жыл бұрын

@@LetsFollowGod123 jeez. All he did was not read a fairy tale

@Chickennuggie1498

6 ай бұрын

@@LetsFollowGod123If you knew anything about the bible you would know that it teaches to “walk by faith not by sight”. Meaning to believe off of the “evidence provided” and to have faith in that-substituting evidence with faith instead.

@zephaniahdejene1746

5 ай бұрын

​@@LemonDani yeah but it's value can't be denied because believe it or not atheism only makes sense coming from Christianity because if let's say Christianity had never been a factor in the early stages of scientific discovery we would be limited In our knowledge of our universe, we would have had our current moral standards to judge things by for example did you know in Japan it used to be acceptable to kill babies because of their world view. You can deny the existence of God but the bible is undoubtably the single most influential piece of ancient literature in the history of the world.

@zephaniahdejene1746

5 ай бұрын

​@@Chickennuggie1498 bro you're taking this way out of context

I want to know how the vote went.

@zemo7483

3 жыл бұрын

The motion was defeated

@zemo7483

3 жыл бұрын

@@weirdsideofyoutube9547 It is on their website.

@laflivluvpeace4836

3 жыл бұрын

Stupid people will remain stupid....BY CHOICE

@megamillion2461

3 жыл бұрын

@@zemo7483 does that mean the Christian or atheist won

@wubdo8409

3 жыл бұрын

@@megamillion2461 No matter the result, it was only one debate and the following vote does not refute or assert the existence of God for all of eternity. One vote is not reliable.

Religion is mostly a coping mechanism for dealing with the brutality of being alive. Example...people in poor countries tend to be more religious than people in wealthy countries. Because religion is all they have to hold onto. It's literally the only thing that provides them with real hope/consolation. Take that away from them and they're left with nothing except starvation, suffering, disease, and death. Life is cruel and humans, especially desperate humans, need something to hold onto in order to cope with everyday life. I'm agnostic, but I have to admit that life can get really difficult when you lack belief in a God that is looking out for you.

@finixmoon127

22 күн бұрын

Couldn’t have said it better myself

“Either human intelligence ultimately owes its origin to mindless matter; or there is a Creator. It is strange that some people claim that it is their intelligence that leads them to prefer the first to the second.” Professor John Lennox. mathematician

@mariomiceli9663

Жыл бұрын

And this somehow leads to belief in the Bible? The book thats on par with a children's book of bedtime stories that was so wrong about reality it's laughable

@user-tu1co9xl1k

6 ай бұрын

​@@mariomiceli9663*There is nothing more hilarious than an adult believing that nature can create information and turn bacteria into humans.*

@mariomiceli9663

6 ай бұрын

@@user-tu1co9xl1k Your display of ignorance is the only hilarious thing here. Your understanding of natural science is like an Amazonian tribesman, not a clue. "Believing" 😂🤦. Beliefs are irrelevant to demonstrable facts.

@punnet2

5 ай бұрын

That simply begs the question of what this hypothetical creator owes its origin to.

@paddingtonbear6815

5 ай бұрын

@@punnet2 Which begs the question who created the creator who created the creator ... Who created the creator...... and if you are an atheist you believe that the universe created you, which begs the question who created the universe? Who is responsible for creating this hypothetical creator Dawkins?

If I look away from the screen, I picture Mr. Bean in one of his priesthood skits 😆

@ANTINATALIST_lewis

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂 accurate

@ANTINATALIST_lewis

2 жыл бұрын

Cant unsee that now

@julianwaugh8221

Жыл бұрын

Well Mr bean would be confused by god ,imagine him góng to church or better yet being the vicar .

Peter Millican is a very skilled debater. He constructs strong arguments with solid logical underpinnings.

@jerrytang8684

5 жыл бұрын

@juicer: And yet, logic tells you that nothing comes out of nothing.

@hulldragon

5 жыл бұрын

@@jerrytang8684 Atheists don't generally say that things came from "nothing" in the way you, and most people, commonly use the word. There are some, very few, scientists that may use a special definition of "nothing" when discussing quantum phenomenon. You propose a strawman saying atheists, in general, think "something comes from nothing". That is false. We overwhelmingly say "we don't know" (which, contrary to religious arrogant certainty, is a *perfectly* acceptable answer to things we simply don't, and may never, know). And in that vein, we say "Why can't the universe have always been?" Hence, something from *something*.

@xxMrBaldyxx

5 жыл бұрын

@@jerrytang8684 We do not yet fully understand how our universe came into existence. It is even possible that it might have _always_ existed, in some form. But to say that it must have been created by some magical God does not help at all. There is no evidence to support the existence of any God.

@kevinparker461

5 жыл бұрын

@@jerrytang8684 Nobody has ever said nothing has come out of nothing, it still doesn't need what is described as a god.

@kevinparker461

5 жыл бұрын

@@xxMrBaldyxx Exactly, but the lack of evidence points to there has never been a god just writings based on myths & hearsay & superstition & no facts. Every thing a weak mind needs to believe.

Does anyone know how the vote went?

Which side did the motion go to though?

If we had souls then why aren't we aware of anything or conscious when we are under anesthesia or in a coma? The answer is that our awareness, consciousness is directly connected to the activity of our brains.

@bryanp570

Жыл бұрын

I suggest you look into NDEs. Especially those by Dr. Eban Alexander & Dr. Bruce Greyson

@jacksonrelaxin3425

Жыл бұрын

The answer is you don’t know and are too stupid to admit it.

@joseph-thewatcher

Жыл бұрын

@@jacksonrelaxin3425 And you have the answer?

@Random_Person1023

8 ай бұрын

that's because they have been interconnected.... it's clear there is a difference because our brain performs certain things subconsciously and certain things only consciously.

19:50 He's talking about the concept of 'immaterial soul' (which I think everyone agrees no one really knows exactly how it works) and says that there's no possible way this 'immaterial soul' can ever reconcile with the existence of a material world such as we know it. Hmmmm... and how does he come to this conclusion?

@wollyworm5995

4 жыл бұрын

because it dosent have any proof at all

@panyanabrd3183

4 жыл бұрын

Mmm, that's a good question to think on..

@craigknepley6021

2 жыл бұрын

Square pegs don’t fit into a round hole. Immaterial things can’t interact with material things. Ghosts don’t bump into walls-they go through them.

@philosopher0076

4 ай бұрын

​​@@wollyworm5995Doesn't it? Look into the 45+ years and over 200+ published scientific studies on NDEs and ADEs. ( Near Death Experience research ).

I've come to the conclusion that even if people are proven without a doubt that there is no God they would reject the evidence out of fear of the god that doesn't exist.

@EdoTimmermans

2 жыл бұрын

At the very best, one could come up with some series of thoughts that would reach to the conclusion that there is only a tiny chance that God does exist. It will always remain 100% certain that it is impossible to disprove the existence of God with 100% certainty, wether God exists or not. Just like most likely there will always be people, as long as there are people in this universe, who will deny any proof of God to be a true proof for God to exist. In short, I argue that the most rational decision one could make on this subject is never to accept any disproof of God as absolute truth, as such a proof could never be complete.

@Qcfreshdude

Жыл бұрын

@@EdoTimmermans You missed the point of the video though. It is up to religions to prove the existence of their respective Gods. Its not the non believers's job to disprove them and of course you can't disprove something that doesn't exist just like you can't disprove the existence or non-existence of fairies and leprechauns

@ronniecortex4936

Жыл бұрын

Don't try to shift the burden of proof!

@russmarkham2197

Жыл бұрын

that relates to Pascual's Wager. Sadly, those people have consigned themselves to living in perpetual fear of millions of vindictive gods who just might (very improbably) exist. Unlike you, I think therefore the argument against making Pascual's Wager is strong, and that people are in fact courageous enough to conclude that there is no supernatural being and none of these gods exist. This does take courage and a good understanding of science, but it is a step being taken by increasing numbers of people.

@maddog47g

Жыл бұрын

I myself have come to the conclusion that if people are proven God exist without a doubt, they would still reject the evidence in fear of his judgment.

EXCELLENT! Time to end the Nonsense of Religious beliefs!

@goatrectum

3 жыл бұрын

Done and done! What’s next on the agenda?

@ANTINATALIST_lewis

2 жыл бұрын

& superstitions. 😠

Who’s here all sad and looking for proof that you’re alone in the Universe and no one will ever help you? 😂

@Wisdom24-7

3 жыл бұрын

God created man and the earth if you don't believe me. If u have the courage check out the link. Your life without God is a ticking time bomb it is very dangerous to reject God kzread.info/dash/bejne/e2VlrplqgKeZfNo.html

@julianrafalko313

3 жыл бұрын

I accepted the idea when I was 15.

@julianrafalko313

3 жыл бұрын

@@Wisdom24-7 "He" (Are you sure he has a prostate?) created Adam and Eve. So, are we all descendants of incest???

@Wisdom24-7

3 жыл бұрын

@@julianrafalko313 Yes we all came from one created man. Monkeys did not mutate into a human

@adamslay1813

3 жыл бұрын

@@Wisdom24-7 damn your IQ is -100. Religions will all disappear soon once your generation will fade, its over bitch with your wack ass, yo bitch, feel used, thank you for these laughs

" There are more things in the Heaven and Earth, Horatio, that are dreamt of in your philosophy" Hamlet -

@richardconnelly7141

4 жыл бұрын

@Tim H It appears you're annoyed because he copied and pasted before you or are you just an asshole?

@albertrogers2506

3 жыл бұрын

Actually,@Tim H Horatio's "philosophy" to which Hamlet refers is that which we call science, and Hamlet is wrong but it's a good play and couldn't exist without the "ghost" of Hamlet's father. Literally, philosophy is love of knowledge. The brilliant physicist William Thomson, who was knighted and then raised to the peerage as Lord Kelvin, was professor of "Natural Philosophy" at Glasgow University. Properly interpreted, Natural Philosophy is NOT some vague speculations that happen to occur to the holder. Horatio's "philosophy" was exactly that, the love of the knowledge of the nature of Nature.

@albertrogers2506

3 жыл бұрын

@Tim H Hmm., you could be right. Michael Grella has an error in his quote, It should be "more things _than_ are dreamt of in your philosophy."

@dharmadefender3932

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe, but no evidence is no evidence.

@SirPayne

Жыл бұрын

I'm not sure whether you realize you quote a fictional character.

Peter Hitchens reminds me of a Vorgon, just dying to recite 64 hours worth of poetry! Something tells me that he is just intensely jealous of his older, much more charismatic and smarter brother.

@alexanderkempster449

2 жыл бұрын

He is just trying to carve his way out from his brothers shadow. Poor sod lol

@treyquattro

2 жыл бұрын

*Vogon. I'm embarrassed to report I thought exactly the same thing!. I agree re: Hitchens sibling rivalry. Weird how they both did a 180 switcheroo though: Peter from atheist to sniveling authoritarian, and Christopher (a hero figure for me) from socialist to pro-war neocon.

@susiehenders

2 жыл бұрын

Correct. Peter is average and bitter. Christopher was bright and caring.

@larrycarter3765

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexanderkempster449 who is?

@larrycarter3765

2 жыл бұрын

Peter's brother is an idiot.

18:25 perfect emo hair flip

@dawnfm00

4 жыл бұрын

Lmao

@justabitofjunkie2595

2 жыл бұрын

5:22 uh 5:57 also 6:04 shit, nm, happens way too often to document it.

@treyquattro

2 жыл бұрын

plus very unflattering bored yawn towards the end. She kind of ruined it for me: couldn't not look!

If God is a jealous God, then of what is he jealous?

@tintinsmythe5837

7 жыл бұрын

people giving worship to anything other than Himself, He created us so He's jealous when we take away what is rightly His, namely His worship

@35bgf

6 жыл бұрын

Husbands usually get jealous when their wives cheat on them with another man.

@drc4320

6 жыл бұрын

Why he? Power of the Pussy much stronger!! Flying Spaghetti Monster

@jerrytang8684

5 жыл бұрын

That you worship other gods. Like limited science, your ego, and exchanging Him for internet time.

@k0smon

5 жыл бұрын

SL///// God is perfection of all things. The bible is full of contradiction, discrepancy and error. Pitch it.

Unbelievable how we call ourselves an advanced species! There shouldn't even be needed such debate at this stage in scientific knowledge.

@danielsanabria6770

3 жыл бұрын

you should watch the debates of Dr Ed Feser and Dr William Lane Craig about God in which they debate against atheists and although the videos are long and advanced it's worth it; they change many opinions and prejudices that atheists and agnostics have about Theism, with those debates I realized that the defense of God is much stronger, rational and deeper than even I believed. They show how it’s totally possible to be rational, analitic and at the same time defending God's existence. And the reason why specifically the Christian religion would be the true one is because of the resurrection which is almost a historical fact, you can watch debates about it and see how the defense of the resurrection of Jesus is rationally strong.

@Chickennuggie1498

2 ай бұрын

@@danielsanabria6770 Dr William lane Craig is a phony. He has mentioned before that nothing could shake him out of his position no matter how much evidence you brought to the table against him.

IF GOD IS ALL-POWERFUL, ALL CREATIVE WHY DIDN'T HE CREATED WORLD WITHOUT POVERTY, SICKNESS, Death SUFFERING & EVIL?

The “creation” of god was originally made out of fear of the unknown and of human vanity. It’s still true to date. To put it simply one of my ancestors said this: Epicouros of Samos 341-270 BC. Is god willing to prevent evil but not able? Then he's not omnipotent Is he able but not willing Then he is malevolent Is he both able and willing? Then whence comes evil Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him god? He was certainly up to something; no?

@dalmal62m72

5 жыл бұрын

Love this quote.

@dalmal62m72

4 жыл бұрын

Sarah Kern you read the quote backwards

@michaelbraden7293

4 жыл бұрын

Have you ever read the Bible? If not then your questions are kinda funny lol because it answers them. Let's accept the premise God is all knowing. Wait. just think about if he knows everything how are we going to every comprehend him at all lol. It logically makes no sense to try to understand a being that's literally beyond all human comprehension.

@connormatthews7572

4 жыл бұрын

Called free will. We turned from God because we give into the flesh and sin. Our wicked ways are what separates us from God, yet He still Sacrificed Himself on the cross because He loves and desires a relationship with us. We have the choice to choose the truth which is God, or evil which is of Satan. If God didn’t allow us to have free will to choose, what would be the point of it all? He wants us to choose to love Him. Though we are sinners, we are made new in Jesus Christ because He is the atonement for our sins. We are now justified in God’s eyes. He does not know sin (He isn’t a sinful being, only Holy). Yet we chose to go against Him and He still gave His only Son for us all so we may be His adopted children and inherit the Kingdom of God. We made this world evil by choosing Satan and sin, but not God. God promises those who don’t believe or have faith/repent that they will be damned to eternal Hell, away from Him. But that’s their choice. Why would God force someone to live with Him in Heaven for eternity? Those who do terrible things and don’t accept Christ, devoting to their lives to Him,will also be sent to Hell because He is a just God.

@michaelbraden7293

4 жыл бұрын

Think about it from God's point of view. He knew he would have to suffer and watch others suffer as well but he also knew some people would inherit eternal life. Even if one person besides Jesus got eternal life God's goal would accomplished. At least that's how I think about it if I'm wrong please let me know

I prayed to God today for an answer and I will let you know the results tomorrow, by the way I have been an atheist for some years now. My friend told me I needed to pray to the god in the sky as I am facing eviction and my life has been shit. Unemployed for months now. So I will let you know if a divine being will save me. I have 5 days to pay my rent which I have been looking for a job any job for awhile now and ran out of money. This will be proof to those who say miracles exist or God is real and merciful.

@TheKamalkukreja

10 жыл бұрын

haha..I jus got a 10 day notice from my landlord so lemme know if praying helps you asap okay XD

@TheTomTomsMusic

10 жыл бұрын

I prayed for that once and in a week had a 3 bedroom 2 bathroom house and two jobs and a car so we'll see what happens to you. "You pray and do not recieve" is in the bible as well so this argument works for Atheists and is does Christians as well.

@Thumbelinamine

10 жыл бұрын

I just want to let you guys know that praying is not the same as wishing. God is not the same as a Genie. Not just because you pray that it will make things better for you. Not just because you strive to be a good person that you will never suffer. Faith in God is to suffer and still love HIM. To be thankful despite our sufferings. Not just because you don't get what you want that He does not love you. And sometimes, the things that will make you happy is not what you need or at least what you think you need. Everything happens for a reason. And overcoming all materialistic ideals and selfishness you will be able to experience miracle from Him.

@ARakaLordBrilliant

10 жыл бұрын

Kamal Kukreja Haha I found a place. It was from looking and it is not what I want buy hey. I did it myself. No one helped me. I made that statement because my friend claims being atheist is a joke. I laughed and told him okay I did the praying thing for years a no results but okay to prove a point.

@TheTomTomsMusic

10 жыл бұрын

ARakaLordBrilliant Assumption is the only grounds of which atheism has to stand on this being a primary example. You decided what God was and when he wasn't that you denounced him. The difference between you and me is that I let God tell me who he is rather than me telling him who he is.

No one claimed things were created by thought, but by speech.

@manuellayburr382

8 ай бұрын

Speech requires vocal chords and air. What was God breathing before he created anything?

@yilamwong749

2 ай бұрын

@@manuellayburr382 great question, but if indeed it was God who created this universe why would he have to limit himself to need the things (air, oxygen molecules) that HE created? Think of it this way, as 3 dimensional beings do we require anything from the second dimension? No!

@Chickennuggie1498

2 ай бұрын

@@yilamwong749 This is simply a non sequitur. Once you put God into the equation, everything else can be explained by, well not explaining it like you just did.

@yilamwong749

Ай бұрын

@@Chickennuggie1498 if you hold god to the same level as humans and what we need then he wouldn’t be THE god.

@Chickennuggie1498

Ай бұрын

@yilamwong749 This is simply circular logic based on assumptions and claims made by iron age people…

We need ONLY one argument not to believe in god: Watch the news!!!

@danielsanabria6770

3 жыл бұрын

There are many mysteries about God, like the famous "Problem of Evil" (how God being good can allow evil) and you can watch videos here on KZread about it and know the christian explanations; but the most important thing about God is the fact that he loves you and he gave Jesus as a sacrifice for you; you can find more in this blog called "EveryStudent", it helped me a lot to get many of my questions answered.

@danielsanabria6770

3 жыл бұрын

You should watch the debates of Dr Ed Feser and Dr William Lane Craig about God in which they debate against atheists and although the videos are long and advanced it's worth it; they change many opinions and prejudices that atheists and agnostics have about Theism, with those debates I realized that the defense of God is much stronger, rational and deeper than even I believed. They show how it’s totally possible to be rational, analitic and at the same time defending God's existence. And the reason why specifically the Christian religion would be the true one is because of the resurrection which is almost a historical fact, you can watch debates about it and see how the defense of the resurrection of Jesus is rationally strong.

@delinquentdave5272

2 жыл бұрын

Isn't that simply free will

@lyn2335

2 жыл бұрын

@@delinquentdave5272 If god promotes free will then how come he has a plan for everyone lmao

@lyn2335

2 жыл бұрын

@ The Santa analogy is nice because he too doesn't exist

The believers don't care if they succeed or fail.. they've had a stand from which they can preach their message, so they have fulfilled the Great Commission. It's not worth having a debate with believers. They have *faith*, and will not de-convert when shown evidence. The only real purpose of this debate is to show those "on the fence" just how stupid religion can be. In that sense, this is another good presentation of rationality.

@MANJYOMETHUNDER111

10 жыл бұрын

The problem is not and has never been having faith versus using logic, it's illogically believing a specific religion is correct. I believe that there could be something after this, but everyone who thinks they know the answer here on earth is full of shit. Every single religion, be it Christianity, Buddhism, Islam, etc. etc. is full of shit. They are lies constructed to make people feel better, and more importantly to draw them together as a community.

@rchuso

10 жыл бұрын

Brian MacLeod I disagree. Since "faith" is the accepting of ideas without evidence, and sometimes against all available evidence, I think it's safe to say "faith" *is* the problem. And religion is primarily used to control the masses, and a secondary effect is the cultural bonding.

@MANJYOMETHUNDER111

10 жыл бұрын

Rand Huso I'm using the term here in the context of faith in some sort of life after death.

@zionbound5801

10 жыл бұрын

If you can answer these childish questions I will be your disciple . Why are we here ? What is the meaning of life.? Is there life after death ? What happens to you after you die.? Who will spend your wealth after you die? Would he be a fool or a wise man ? Would there ever be any justice for the millions of the innocent people that Atheists such as Mao, Pol Pot, Stalin and Hitler murderously slaughtered ?

@rchuso

10 жыл бұрын

Zion Bound You're kidding, right? You know perfectly well that Adolf Hitler was a Christian. And that wouldn't matter anyway, because atheism is simply a lack of belief in that which isn't demonstrable. It has nothing to do with morality or how a ruler deals with his minions. I see no evidence for an afterlife. Therefore most of your questions are meaningless. You have no evidence for an afterlife, even though you claim to be "zion bound". You think that some part of you exists without your body, and yet we know of only 4 forces in nature, and none of these would apply to your "soul". And if your brain is damaged, so is your memory, your morality, your temperament, and everything you think of as yourself. You haven't demonstrated the existence of a "soul". Man! I'm glad I don't believe all that bulls**t anymore! Find some evidence (yea, I know it's impossible for you to find evidence) and then come back to the discussion.

If We are so very much fine tuned why there are like a 100 thousand known diseases?

@polishedmeat6399

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks to science we can fight these diseases, while a pope cant do shit

@thomasmaughan4798

4 жыл бұрын

The fine tuning affects all organisms. Actually, it affects everything. If it was tuned differently then we also would be tuned differently but asking the same questions.

@ssssSTopmotion

3 жыл бұрын

Corona

@albertrogers2506

3 жыл бұрын

Natural Selection is a clever idea, but I cannot believe that if there were a personal Creator, it was _benevolent_ in choosing Death, disease, and Pain as the selection mechanism.

@Muhbautz

3 жыл бұрын

@@albertrogers2506 I dont know who said it but this is a pretty nice quote on the topic :"we do not survive thanks to our environement but despite it."

Great to see Dr Lennox in attendence. I'm sure he has a word or two to add

what was the final vote

The morals, the less taste you have the more chance you will enjoy food. :)

Most of this guy's arguments are pretty good.

@fannytant5303

5 жыл бұрын

What arguments? Show me a single TANGABLE Proof he delivers

@ShadowWalker1971

5 жыл бұрын

@Fanny Tant: "What arguments? Show me a single TANGABLE Proof he delivers" *The human brain, dumbass.*

@fannytant5303

5 жыл бұрын

@keecefly he's your God as well but ur obviously lacking empathy and soft feelings so God doesn't want u in his future anyway. God doesn't fit in a test tube he INVENTED science and everything. Do u want a certificate from a mere flawed human such as yourself or something u moron?

@Liciousdub

5 жыл бұрын

When he can finally get t t t the words o o o o ut

@ResistanceAintFutile

5 жыл бұрын

@@fannytant5303 lol you stupid miscreant

you should watch the debates of Dr Ed Feser and Dr William Lane Craig about God in which they debate against atheists and although the videos are long and advanced it's worth it; they change many opinions and prejudices that atheists and agnostics have about Theism, with those debates I realized that the defense of God is much stronger, rational and deeper than even I believed. They show how it’s totally possible to be rational, analitic and at the same time defending God's existence. And the reason why specifically the Christian religion would be the true one is because of the resurrection which is almost a historical fact, you can watch debates about it and see how the defense of the resurrection of Jesus is rationally strong.

I'd be very curious to get a grasp of what the speaker thinks is "moral". Is there a codified law or set of precepts to which he adheres?

LMAO i cant get over flock of Samwell Tarly its distracting

@HowieFeltersnach

8 жыл бұрын

+Edward Villa sick references brah.

@robmacfarlane1657

8 жыл бұрын

+Edward Villa "flock of Samwell Tarly".. Oh, that's marvelous.

@larrycrabs5995

8 жыл бұрын

+Edward Villa Haha, he does look like Samwell!

@joramarentved4980

6 жыл бұрын

?????

@kimrass

6 жыл бұрын

lmfao Samwell

I would take this challenge in a heart beat ! Take me on !

As a species, if humans were able to feel unconditional love towards all other humans, it would not be possible to worship an image of a judge-mental god.

@jannellecox3202

2 жыл бұрын

Right .....I....will give you that . Question....have you listened to Dr.Ray Haggin's teachings ?

@junevandermark952

2 жыл бұрын

@@jannellecox3202 No. Does he preach religion at others, as being based on truth?

@elchapo1049

2 жыл бұрын

If everyone were able to feel u conditional love, atheists would stop mocking people they deem “intellectually” inferior and start focusing on the little time we have left. But humans are still sinful, sadly. And we look on people different as stupid and delusional.

@rickyanthony

2 жыл бұрын

@@elchapo1049 If THEISTS had any kind of genuine surety to their beliefs, they wouldn't take a minutes break shouting themselves sick at every person they know, to rescue them from eternal hell. But no, the majority of 'christians' are quite like numb zombies, just getting on with life as anyone does, yet professing belief.

@user-sk7il1ur9s

2 жыл бұрын

@@elchapo1049 i think perhaps you're right that people shouldn't "mock" people they consider less intelligent than them for that. but i think it's extremely important to challenge beliefs - such as religious beliefs - as i think that's how you develop understandings. i think beliefs should be considered, challenged, debated, evidence presented. i think they should NOT be left for the people who believe them to believe - perhaps it's fine if it only affects that person; but i think religions affect many other people and i think they often influence consideration of evidence, which i think is a problem. like i think many children of religious people may be indoctrinated, manipulated into a belief which they may later disagree with. and i think belief without evidence is a silly thing - perhaps many people find religions comforting, but i think they're very unlikely to be true. i think you're right that we should try to enjoy the little time we have left. i think that when we die, we'll very likely cease to exist, making this time we have alive very precious i think. so i think we should try to focus on our time in existence.

I believe in God. I was an atheist for most of my adult life and I’ve read plenty of Sam Harris, Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens books, all brilliant men. However, life experiences, intellect & spirituality experiences has brought me right back to God, The Source, The universal mind or whatever name you call it. It happened to me, it wasn’t logical or rational...it was more powerful than any logic I’ve experienced....that said, I personally advocate God. 🧎🏾🙏🏽👊🏽

@shookreeseeree4

3 жыл бұрын

Which God?..any proof that everyone of us can detect or test?

@troybradley2575

2 жыл бұрын

Your beliefs mean nothing! I believe every woman in the world was beautiful should have sex with me!, Doesn’t mean it’s true!

@troybradley2575

2 жыл бұрын

@Jason Borne 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 trivial is believing in fairytales ie god 😂😂😂

@troybradley2575

2 жыл бұрын

@Jason Borne You’re arguing with a 12 year old 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@troybradley2575

2 жыл бұрын

@Jason Borne Just like an “adult “ assuming 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 you’re an adult fool who believes in fairytales

This was great, but the objection to the teleological argument, as usual, missed the mark. The main problem with that argument is that is assumes the conclusion in the premise. One must assume that life was an intended feature of the universe for that to work at all. And if one assumes that, then they have already accepted the idea of an intentional agent as the cause of the universe. To claim that god is proved by our existence is no more rational than a Poker player being dealt a good hand and assuming that there was a god who made that happen. Our existence is valuable to us, therefore we see a universe capable of producing and supporting us as "fortuitous", but that is purely subjective. Even if there were a god, what if all he wanted to create was a machine that could make complex elements, and the unintended, and possibly unwanted byproduct was us? This argument for god is as weak as the ontological argument - it sucks.

@davidgafo

7 жыл бұрын

Is it "begging the question"?

@pdoylemi

7 жыл бұрын

davidgafo Most certainly. I am surprised - I usually note that in my comments, but I did not.

@timwebb1000

7 жыл бұрын

Nevertheless, you will be judged by Him; and on present evidence, consigned to the Lake of Fire, and eternal oblivion, along with our esteemed professor.

@pdoylemi

7 жыл бұрын

timwebb1000 Take your lies and fear mongering elsewhere. Nobody is buying it here.

@wassilykandinsky4616

7 жыл бұрын

+ timwebb1000 I see you as a victim and at the same time as a perpetrator of religious fear mongering. That's how many religions are handed down in peoples heads, like a kind of mental viruses. "an eternal lake of fire" in which humans should suffer for ever is such an absurd idea to believe in. And I feel real pity for you like I feel pity for women which live in a tradition where they think that genital mutilation of their daughters is a good thing.

Professor Milligan introduced me to complete new argument - an immaterial enourmously capable mind acting through immaterial means is just not a plausible hypothesis

@avakinkayycali877

Жыл бұрын

When I stopped believing in Santa, I never went to go convince others kids he wasn’t real because I knew it for a fact! And didn’t care if others did or not!! The need to convince people is just the subconscious hope that if other people agree with you there’s a better chance that you are right. But to tell people that for a fact God does not exist at all because you just know so much is actually more bizarre than saying he does. God doesn’t want religion he only wants your LOVE ❤️ if you were staring death in the face and there were no others to convince , would you still believe it yourself that there is no God? Or would the fear of what’s after death be enough for you to realize that the feeling of Love that is a universal human language is in fact from GOD

@partysugar519

Жыл бұрын

So a material enormously capable mind acting through material means is a plausible hypothesis??

@cronistamundano8189

Жыл бұрын

@@partysugar519 yes it is a plausible hypothesis all right. It would just be left what “enourmous” would mean. and I am sure that we could use more than one example of a material very capable mind acting through material means achieving astonishing things.

@WapitalismandWreedom

8 ай бұрын

​@@avakinkayycali877belief in Santa doesn't influence how society functions. What a ridiculous comparison.

@superstardeejay2468

6 ай бұрын

You might, well i doubt it, but the nonsense you are talking might be believed by someone if you knew how to spell "hypothesis"

Professor Lennox absolutely crushes this guy intellectually.

@user-pw6ei2mn7x

Жыл бұрын

You must be joking.

@SirPayne

Жыл бұрын

You mean John "personal incredulity" Lennox? LOL

@quantumphysics4692

Жыл бұрын

@@SirPayne You know Professor John Lennox? The guy with a PhD in math now teaching at the number one university in the world…

@SirPayne

Жыл бұрын

@@quantumphysics4692 Yes, I do, he even speaks my native language fairly well. People who never visited a university get easily impressed by an academic title. A PhD doesn't stop you from saying and believing nonsense. Argument from personal incredulity by Lennox: kzread.info/dash/bejne/qIyMm82oe7LRhNY.html

@quantumphysics4692

Жыл бұрын

@@SirPayne Have you read his books? They’re very good. I watched that Lennox Dawkins debate a long time ago…I really honed in on how miserable and depressed Dawkins looks and how much happier Lennox seems. It’s not even up for debate though. God’s a fact. To assume Hitler received the same fate as Ghandi or Mother Theresa in eternal nothingness is incredibly simple minded. kzread.infoY2NhWkHifaA?feature=share

7:06 Peter Hitchens makes an interruption to draw a distinction between "knows" and "believes" at a point when Peter is discussing a point John Lennox made, "if you believe the resurrection is true, there's a God". Perhaps he should have interrupted John! But it is quite simply a fallacious argument as he proves by example. But quite simply knowing and believing are related. If you "know" something is unlikely, impossible or implausible then you don't believe it and if you feel you know something is true, then you believe it. So I think it is stupid unless it is a confession that he believes in spite of his knowledge to the contrary. We can have doubts about whether we know anything. So you could argue that "knowing" is really having a strong belief indistinguishable from certainty.

@TR13400

Күн бұрын

"If you know something is unlikely or implausible... then you don't believe it" Is the formation of a complex multidimensional expanding universe (possibly multi-verse) following laws of physics and containing an infinite amount of truth, beauty, and love to be discovered out of a formless void implausible or unlikely?

@TR13400

Күн бұрын

The fact you can doubt all of human knowledge is not evidence that humans don't know anything. It's an assumption one can make. Doesn't mean it will get you any closer to the truth, it will actually keep you in a perpetual state of doubt.

@psychologicalprojectionist

23 сағат бұрын

​@TR13400 My argument was of you think something is implausible, you don't believe it by default. It is true of pink bananas, jackpot winning lottery tickets, expanding universes full of love and omni gods. The more implausible, the greater the corroborative evidence you should require to believe.

@psychologicalprojectionist

23 сағат бұрын

​@@TR13400pretending to know things is not knowing things. We only know stuff by assuming we know nothing and then working from observations, experiments in the light of theories, which may or may not be disproved.

@TR13400

23 сағат бұрын

@psychologicalprojectionist I completely reject this entire comment. Just because you think something is implausible that doesn't mean it didn't happen or can't happen. I also reject Carl's Sagans slogan of extraordinary evidence. All truth claims have the same standard of evidence to me, proven beyond reasonable doubt. What I actually believe is different, because we have a subjective experince and we require faith to believe in anything. There it falls on what evidence you believe is most reliable.

The Hair flippin Kid in the back of the speaker kept me from directing my attention to the speaker I had to close the show at the second speakers entrance.. Why didnt the camera man at the lest have him reseated???

@marilynkennedy8236

3 жыл бұрын

I agree he was very distracting. The odd thing is when the camera is at a distance the EMO kid seems a lot further away from the speaker and yet when the camera is on close up he seems very near the speaker.

*That's gorgeous:*_The atheistic idea is so nonsensical that I do not see how I can put it in words._ *Lord Kelvin*

@yaboicaden200

7 ай бұрын

I've never met God and no one else has either. If God exists why does he let us suffer so much. If there is a God, I hate them.

@atheism-themoststupidrelig5703

7 ай бұрын

@@yaboicaden200 *Which natural process created in you the sense of suffering and how?*

@Chickennuggie1498

6 ай бұрын

@@atheism-themoststupidrelig5703natural processes dont lead to “creation”.

@atheism-themoststupidrelig5703

6 ай бұрын

@@Chickennuggie1498 *I appreciate your wonderful and meaningless remark.*

@Chickennuggie1498

5 ай бұрын

@@atheism-themoststupidrelig5703 I appreciate your clear lack of intellectual honesty and integrity.

True, there are no gods.

With all the talks aside, praying to God has helped me get happiness in this life. What other alternatives can atheists offer me for achieving happiness in my life if they think I have to abandon God? I mean this is a serious stuff, affecting my mental wellbeing.

"an experienced showman" Actually, he's an experiences and brilliant philosopher with over 200 articles published in peer-reviewed journals of philosophy, over 30 books collaborating with some of the best philosophers of the modern era and he's been praised as one of the great thinkers of our age by many top atheist philosophers like Quentin Smith. Alot of atheists seem to think Craig is just a "showman" or debating. Debating is just something he does on the side.

@Southpaw88

4 ай бұрын

name at least 10 of the many great atheist philosophers

@biggerissues6085

3 ай бұрын

​@@Southpaw88Name ONE single philosopher who was great BECAUSE he believed in God? And name one philosopher who should be of value if his intellect was not sufficient to allow him to question that which is patently ridiculous.

The fear of death- politics-power-money Is the religeon that makes gods.

@udaybhanuchitrakar8812

4 жыл бұрын

@quantum Regarding God, I have written the following in one of my Bengali books: "Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why that bastard God had to create such a bastard world? Why couldn't he stay alone?' Will you please explain the fear of what has compelled me to write the above about God?

@quantum5170

4 жыл бұрын

@@udaybhanuchitrakar8812 Hello, It was no god that created this bastard world why? because no god exists! It's humans who pretend to like each other that is till the other human has something more than his neighbour.

@udaybhanuchitrakar8812

4 жыл бұрын

@quantum In your OP you have presented a thesis that fear is the cause due to which man believes in God. I have contradicted that thesis by positing the existence of a God whom I have described as a bastard God. And I have also posed a question: what sort of fear has compelled me to posit the existence of such a God. Here it was expected that you would defend your thesis and so answer my question. Nobody wants to know whether there's a God or not. But they want to know how you will counter my challenge. And there you have failed miserably. If you do not know how to defend your thesis, then why have you presented it?

@quantum5170

3 жыл бұрын

@God Just reality not hidden so called god''s

@Cocoa_nutz

3 жыл бұрын

There is no God, true, at least not that God, but there is a source, let's call it the consciousness behind all that exist. Well it's not perfect, that's why it morphed into the universe with all its dynamics, to observe itself silently. It's not so benevolent but it had to learn, couldn't do it by itself so yeah, life happened 🤗. We're all here to learn, why? Because you are God and God is you, US! Flaws sins strengths spirit ect ect

Depends how you define God

@geoden

2 жыл бұрын

Since I, or anyone else, has never seen the non-entity called 'God' by deluded humans, I define it as non-existent.

@arunmoses2197

2 жыл бұрын

@@geoden That is not a good argument though. Because if you see a detailed painting, will you say "I do not believe someone painted it because I cannot see the person"?

A professor like him does

You'd think they could have found a less toad-like member of the audience to sit behind the speaker.

@CyberWeez

4 жыл бұрын

I like toads

@barrycowen627

4 жыл бұрын

I wish the toad would hop it .

@1414141x

4 жыл бұрын

You are an idiot. This is an academic debate not a beauty pageant. Why do you feel it at all relevant or necessary to comment on the gentlemans looks. The fact that he is there in the audience suggests that he is interested in the topic and listening to the speakers. If he is a student of the University then he probably a pretty bright chap.

@adamjames5077

4 жыл бұрын

It's Lewis Capaldi in his younger days. Apparently he did a concert to the speakers after they were done. The only problem is most of his songs are about God so I'm not sure how that turned out.

@leonausten1800

4 жыл бұрын

Roedy Green omg yeah sooo true, that Hairshake on fleek tough.

It amazes me that there are intelligent, honest people that still believe in religion. If a person wants to believe there is a god or gods, I respect that. If you want to try to get me to believe, we can talk but bring strong evidence. If you want to keep it to yourself, even better. But to support religion, any religion is stupefying. The only reason I can come up with to explain an intelligent person supporting religion is that they have never questioned their beliefs and have never looked at any arguments against. Or they are running for office in the United States, but then that would make them dishonest.

@namelessrose3859

4 жыл бұрын

Steve Swangler I totally agree with you. Almost all religious ppl have been “indoctrinated “ since birth and aside from their primary job and a hobby don’t know much else! I’ll make that clear... I stated “almost All “ not all! I respect ppl’s beliefs until they try and push it on me then my other parties tend to come out and play ugly lol. Shhh... I hear voices but don’t tell anyone! JK with you. The chief duty of every new age is to upraise new men to determine its liberties, to lead it towards material success - to rend the rusty padlocks and chains of dead custom that always prevent healthy expansion. Theories and ideas that may have meant life and hope and freedom for our ancestors may now mean destruction, slavery, and dishonor to us! As environments change, no human ideal standeth sure! Whenever, therefore, a lie has built unto itself a throne, let it be assailed without pity and without regret, for under the domination of an inconvenient falsehood, no one can prosper. Let established sophisms be dethroned, rooted out, burnt and destroyed, for they are a standing menace to all true nobility of thought and action! Whatever alleged "truth" is proven by results to be but an empty fiction, let it be unceremoniously flung into the outer darkness, among the dead gods, dead empires, dead philosophies, and other useless lumber and wreckage! The most dangerous of all enthroned lies is the holy, the sanctified, the privileged lie the lie everyone believes to be a model truth. It is the fruitful mother of all other popular errors and delusions. It is a hydra-headed tree of unreason with a thousand roots. It is a social cancer! The lie that is known to be a lie is half eradicated, but the lie that even intelligent persons accept as fact - the lie that has been inculcated in a little child at its mother's knee - is more dangerous to contend against than a creeping pestilence! There is nothing inherently sacred about moral codes. Like the wooden idols of long ago, they are the work of human hands, and what man has made, man will destroy! This is evident of what’s going on in the world today. Man is determined to destroy man!

@dazzy999

3 жыл бұрын

And there are idiots who don't believe cos they are idiots

^^^ *if you had a chance to experience an unexplained event in your life... one night while doing a medical homework on my college, i saw a glowing image reflected on the mirror, a glowing legs and white glowing dress stepping or ascending on our spiral stairs that was about 2 meters away on my loaction, i did not turn back to look but I just focus my eyes on the mirror to see it clearly - it was glowing and going up the stairs... i definitely felt afraid, so I closed my eyes and prayed...* *science and evidence plays big role in my life (my mind, my belief), but to that incident even on the incidents experienced by my family members even visitors in our loved house, it seems there are something that science can't explain nor grasp alone...* *were these hallucinations, illusions, tricks to the brains & eyes, or bend of lights & images ect. ... or something truly unusual(?)...* 🤔 *practicing my field even after asking mentors or people with more advanced studies, still the answer... i don't know...*

@user-pc4uo3df5i

7 ай бұрын

*Let's move to things simpler to grasp: DNA is the undeniable evidence1 for an intelligent creator because nature cannot create codes and information.*

I can't stop looking at emo kid back there. But I do agree, I wanted to believe, I spent years studying and reading. I prayed. I begged. I went to CFNI. I finally came to the point where I realized, it just isn't true. My foundation was built on lies. Which was very difficult. I am in a better place now. I have never been more free and happy than I am today. There is freedom from religion.

I want to see more of Peter Millican!

@janouglaeser8049

9 жыл бұрын

Hank Schrader kzread.info/dash/bejne/mHmrmrizqrvJmqg.html

@janouglaeser8049

9 жыл бұрын

Hank Schrader kzread.info/dash/bejne/Z36jt6OAibvQhsY.html also

@ShadowWalker1971

5 жыл бұрын

You'd probably like to, but I don't know if he'd be up for that.

"Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones." -Marcus Aurelius

There is no need to convince anyone outside of yourself that God is. The people calling themselves atheist will know that God is. It does not matter what anyone thinks outside of me, I know that God is, because I know that I Am. God is not separate from me, I am one with God. As I will not try to prove to anyone God is real by using books, I do not want anyone trying to disprove God by using books. I can only present myself as living proof that God is, because I Am. The proof of God is in you, and me, not outside of you, or me. If you can prove you are not, than you can prove that God is not. “I THINK! THEREFORE, I AM!” So because God is, therefore, I Am. God and me are one and the same. I dare not think that I Am separate from God, because I know that I am not separate from God, and God is not separate from me. There is no such thing as matter; everything we call matter, is: “Infinite Potential, Infinite Probability; Infinite Possibility; and Infinite Power” compressed into form, for a specific function. What we call death is the separation of the meta-physical me, from my temporal material body, the compressed functioning form of me that gave me an identity in the material world. Upon death I return to the anti-matter world where I can from, and in time the whole material Universe will decompress, and return to its purest form of infinite potential; infinite possibility; infinite probability; infinite power, and infinite promise, where everything is Light, Life, Alive, Love, and Living. I know all of these things to be true intuitively, I did not learn, know or understand these thing by anything outside of me, but by the eternal truth that is in me, and I am not blind, therefore I am free, and I can clearly see the truth. NO RELIGION NECESSARY!

@dimitrispap777

2 жыл бұрын

What did i just read? Did you write this while being high? Please give me what you are smoking

@walterdaems57

3 ай бұрын

You are so right. God does exist! Undoubtedly! Under the roof of your skull where he resides and should be protected by all means because once he leaves these very limited surroundings he’s bound to dissolve in thin air :)

The professors argument regarding the suffering, child, and compensation in the afterlife, was at best, snarky, and at worst destructive. It’s undermines any principle of reward for sacrifice. His argument can easily be extrapolated to mean that any struggle, failure, illness, the gate, any enjoyment of good that may come from it.that suffering is the standard by which joy must be measured. They obviously do not know the gentleman, but that last statement was a window into a better disposition.

11:37 _"we are universally moral beings"_ he should say that to Xi Putin & Kim-Jong

@weirdsideofyoutube9547

2 жыл бұрын

all normal people are moral being but of course psychopath exist

@mirkoboi

2 жыл бұрын

@@weirdsideofyoutube9547 What is the "normal"

@weirdsideofyoutube9547

2 жыл бұрын

@@mirkoboi average people without personalities disorder

@mirkoboi

2 жыл бұрын

@@weirdsideofyoutube9547 Ok... then no one is normal

@weirdsideofyoutube9547

2 жыл бұрын

@@mirkoboi i think people with no personality disorder exist

are we supposed to accept the observations, conclusions of people who thought the world to be flat ?

@thomasmaughan4798

4 жыл бұрын

"are we supposed to accept" There is no WE. You are free to accept, or not, whatever you wish. I suggest at least pretending to subscribe to the ideals of your employer.

@Chickennuggie1498

2 ай бұрын

@@thomasmaughan4798 wot?

@thomasmaughan4798

2 ай бұрын

@@Chickennuggie1498 "wot?" Yes, absolutely. I could write it again or you could save me the time and simply read it again. But it seems some elaboration might be needed. "Supposed to" is a rule based statement. It implies the existence of an Authority that has issued Rules that you are Supposed To obey. Authorities exist in vast number and includes your spouse, your employer, your church leaders or in substitute your DNC (Democratic National Committee), AND IF you wish to curry favor with your favorite Authority, THEN you are "supposed to" do whatever that authority decrees.

@Chickennuggie1498

2 ай бұрын

@@thomasmaughan4798 The whole biblical narrative is based on authority...

@thomasmaughan4798

2 ай бұрын

@@Chickennuggie1498 "The whole biblical narrative is based on authority" Yes. Many authorities! The genius of some part of it is render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's. I have many authorities in my life, well, several at least. When I was in the Navy long enough I became one of the authorities. I am also pedantic; I process words carefully. It is a useful skill for computer programming; sometimes less so in social settings where many people, maybe most, do not construct meaningful sentences. "are we supposed to accept the observations, conclusions of people who thought the world to be flat " Let us imagine a person named Tom. He lives near Fargo, North Dakota, and believes the world is flat, because at Fargo, North Dakota, it is so flat it doesn't even follow the curvature of the earth. This is because it is in the bottom of an extremely shallow bowl caused by the Red River valley. Anyway, he observes that summer is hot and winter is cold. Very cold. Indescribably cold. The question then becomes SHOULD you accept his observations? Oh, I misspoke; should WE accept his observation? I am a drone, a bee, a sheep; I do not think for myself in fact I have no idea what to think or do unless WE have decided it. Okay, well, I'm not actually a sheep or bee and I am not a we. But many people ARE we. I TENTATIVELY accept anyone's observations on any topic until and unless I have judged the observation to be false. Now, if the observation is within the realm of things I believe the person is in error about, I am less likely to even tentatively accept an observation. So, the person that believes the entire planet is a disk, and not a sphere, seems to be in error and is probably not a reliable source of information about geography, geology, astronomy, mathematics, navigation. But at the same time may well be expert in biology, genetics, computer science, electronics and so on; things that do not depend on correct understanding of the shape of the Earth.

"Not even one mutation has been observed that adds a little information to the genome." Dr. Lee Spetner ( American physicist who is a PhD and MD from MIT and Washington University)

@richardgregory3684

2 жыл бұрын

You don;t have to "add information" to a genome to evolve.

The same people that says, :"I have proof that God exists"...or...."well, if God didn't exist then why did this happen based on what the bible says..."..or.."God must exist if all these 'coincidences' are happening simultaneously"...and these are the very same people that if asked, 'would you be willing to die this very moment to see the God that you claim you love and know exist right now'; and those very people, 100% of them, would NOT be willing to test their 'theory' that God exist by dying "right now" on the chopping blocks to see how their faith stacks up against the reality of their theory/'faith in God'....lol....belief in God is NOT knowledge of God and if there is a God, well....he can always call me on my cell phone since he is supposedly omnipotent, all knowing and all powerful that can do anything. That would be my personal test for anyone's so called "God"....

The facial expression of that guy on the left (who proposed the motion) were priceless. It was really along the lines of "He is not suppose to be saying these things. It's not fair. Of course, we are going to lose now, he has pointed out that we were wrong"

@theeasternjourney

4 жыл бұрын

It was really along the lines of "He is not supposed to be saying these things because they are false and cannot be proven true, while Jesus is proven true to exist and because he did exist, whatever he was like, he portrayed himself as God and was worshiped by many. And he, judging by the earlier scriptures, was prophesied to come as he came, no other god came as he did(Vishnu, Isis, Osiris, Thor, etc.)."* Just wanted to fix your grammatical error :)

@drmontague6475

2 жыл бұрын

Ask religious people have they ever had a wet fart i.e. shit there pants by accident. If so then why do they believe in an intelligent designer?!

@stupollock6851

2 жыл бұрын

His brother is Christopher Hitchens. Sadly no longer with us physically but his wisdom I experience daily. One of the best minds in last century of intelligent thought.