WTF?? Penn and Teller were not even impressed, much less fooled.

@SDesWriter

4 жыл бұрын

Actually they spoke highly of the trick and how nicely it was done. Penn seemed to believe he had it figured out but couldn't find a way to verify it without disclosing the trick so they just gave him the trophy. But we never did get to find out if what Penn thought was correct or not.

@DevilWearsAdidas

4 жыл бұрын

its very important to note that the judges hear everything and know exactly how the tricks are done prior to the magician coming out. If penn is saying something he thinks it is, and they dont quite have everything figured out completely, it counts as a fooler. Again they are not the best magicians in the world, they are just hosting a show for entertainment. They even say this in one of the episodes.

While the judges are talking to Allison, Penn clearly says to Teller, "I don't know what else to say to him." Meaning, he didn't want to give the whole thing away to the audience, but the magician wasn't cooperating. Had the magician been more humble in accepting Penn's hints, the judges wouldn't need to intervene. A stolen trophy.

@hemelinger7792

5 жыл бұрын

Blisskrieg , no. The guy behind the scene, his name is in another comment answer here somewhere and refferred to as "the judges" or "the judge" knows how the trick works and hears everything Penn & Teller say to each other. This is to prevent the magician from lying, but also from revealing too much about the whole set-up. He will sometimes rule either way. Sometimes Teller walks up to the presenter and whispers with him also. That's probably, when the judge can't call yet, because they are still on track or wants to add some drama to the show.

@hemelinger7792

5 жыл бұрын

TheBrabon1 , yeah, they wouldn't miss a switch. Only one other explanation comes to my mind. However fools them gets to be on their show in Vegas. Don't know, if they've done it before, but they could theoretically pretend to be fooled to get the guy on their show.

@blisskrieg838

5 жыл бұрын

I think they knew how it was done, but maybe Penn just didn't give enough hints regarding how he was able to end up with the "clumps" he ended up with.

@martyndyson9501

5 жыл бұрын

So P&T try to explain to the magician that they weren't fooled while also not trying to ruin the trick for that magician or others who may want to use the trick in future? So the audience is kept in the dark every time for the integrity for magicians everywhere? I'm from the UK and I've never seen the program before ( I basically got click bated) however what a terrible concept! Someone needs dragging into the car park and beat to a pulp for this rubbish/garbage!

@richardmahn7589

5 жыл бұрын

We call it a parking lot here... or do we need to drag that person to Britain? heh

I would love to hear what Penn and Teller have to say on this

Illinois knew he was going to be called.

Penn: We know exactly how he did it Judge: THEY WERE FOOLED

@johnkean6852

4 жыл бұрын

Great act and love the Cello

@timhallas4275

4 жыл бұрын

@Jack Riddles : bullshit. they knew exactly what he did.

@mlbbgaming2552

4 жыл бұрын

Penn knows the trick. But the judges shut penns mouth. Cause its a new great trick. The judges stop penn coz penn might tell all the methods and it might destroy that kind of trick if everyone knows

@richardwoolf6411

4 жыл бұрын

Tkdkerkm. Awqqqpwqa0

@OrbitCube1

4 жыл бұрын

One big fuckup. Off cause penn and teller knows how he did it. They were put to silence. and i hated the trick yes.

He handed out 3 cards to everyone 3 seats apart (six people total). Then he calls out all 18 states that he memorized from that deck beforehand. The remaining people were sitting at least 3 seats apart, so he knew what card was remaining from their group. For example, if the first group of three was given CA, NY, and WA, and he calls out CA and NY, then he knows the one person standing from that group has WA. It's why he handed out 6 groups of 3, and -- whoa -- there were six people standing at the end. The cellist was supposed to either listen for Penn only or read his lips, and then somehow play a note that gave Ivan a clue of Penn's card. The trick failed there.

@nicolashance3248

5 жыл бұрын

Also there was a deck switch when he asked pen to stand up

@abusethesun

5 жыл бұрын

Seriously... Like he can't even get the important finisher + click bait title. Fuck this guy

@fpham8004

5 жыл бұрын

But Penn knew this and he was correctly giving the hints, why the judges overruled is beyond me.

@odysseusrex5908

5 жыл бұрын

Farty Pants I don't know, but I think it was because Penn wasn't saying anything to suggest he noticed the deck switch, therefore they didn't know how the performer knew the arrangement of the cards, only that he did.

@sisgaia

5 жыл бұрын

OR, he did mention that Amodei had his back to them at one point, and he hadn't finished the explanation. I figured this trick the same way you people did, and I thought that Penn's description was on point. So why was he cut off? Perhaps the trick was done in a different way than what seemed obvious.

Penn and Teller not stumped, however act refused to acknowledge he lost so judges intervene so Penn doesn't reveal how trick is done. There fixed the caption for you.

@eriscyl

4 жыл бұрын

Kim Cornelissen How do you know?

@MrNerdSmasher

4 жыл бұрын

Its obvious, penn was going deeper and deeper into the explanation to the point he was speaking plainly about its solution rather than remaining cryptic....

@patrickswayze2596

4 жыл бұрын

MrNerdSmasher agreed. Magic is all about illusion and mystique, and the entire principle of the show is too fool them and us, I almost was able to figure it out myself after some basic math but am still uncertain simply from that 18 hint Penn gave us!

@havanafayre

4 жыл бұрын

@@patrickswayze2596 Sorry, this will be long. First, he preselected 18 states. Then he handed them out in groups. To keep it simple, let's say he handed them out in groups of 3. He gave a different number of cards to the first person in each group, but the principle is the same (he knew which cards were in each group). In his preselected deck of 18, he knew which states were in each group of 3 before he handed them out. It doesn't matter which order they are in, so mixing them as they are passed down is irrelevant. If you hand 3 cards to the first person, 3 people will end up with those cards, the order doesn't matter. Now, group 1 might have California, Washington, and Oregon. The second group might have Arizona, Texas, and Oklahoma. And so on. At first he calls out every state except 1 in each group. So he says California, Washington, Arizona, Oklahoma, and so on. This leaves one person in each group that wasn't called. He deliberately skipped them. Now he goes back and finishes the "trick". He knows that the final card from group 1 is Oregon and the final card in group 2 is Texas and so on. So, with that knowledge, he selects each person randomly and tells them the final state from the group. There's no way he could have known Penn's card, so that added detail was superfluous and bad showmanship. The only thing "great" about this trick is memorizing the states in each group. But enough practice would make it ridiculously easy. I agree with the comment that they didn't want Penn revealing the whole trick and stopped him. It didn't fool me, so I KNOW it didn't fool Penn & Teller. HTH! 👍

@briandunn2171

4 жыл бұрын

@@havanafayre Excellent. I think you got it, and it explains what Penn was trying to say.

"Do you have a father?" "Yes." "You...are correct." *MAGIC*

Pens face when he didnt guess his card haha totally not impressed

@timhallas4275

4 жыл бұрын

That was just another distraction. It didn't work.

@timhallas4275

4 жыл бұрын

@Gavin Bailey I think it's Gavinn. 2 ns.

@timhallas4275

4 жыл бұрын

@Gavin Bailey Yep. that's it. Nothing is real. Life is an illusion.

@Sonnnay

4 жыл бұрын

Give him a break, he was exhausted.

@prinegonbevaris1788

4 жыл бұрын

@@timhallas4275 This was not a distraction, but a magician messing up that part of the trick. He underestimated that being on a big stage with the person you want to listen to being 20m away is a whole other thing than performing on a small stage with the person right in front of you. Mr. Amodei didn't lie when he said, it was a lot harder than he thought.

'What state do you have?' 'Rhode island' 'You.. are correct' WHAT?

@nikolafeschiev3399

4 жыл бұрын

stealth +1

@realentenkot7630

4 жыл бұрын

i think the magician goal was that penn should have the rhode island card. that's why he didn't "guess". the magician knew that penn have the card, thats why penn have to call the name and the magician say -> you are correct ;)

@Madcowe

4 жыл бұрын

I think it was meant as a gag

@patrickkellyf3

4 жыл бұрын

@@realentenkot7630 That ain't a trick, because, well, duh anyone can say "Yeah you're right :)" The trick would have been for him to say "Penn, you have RI!"

@512TURNER

4 жыл бұрын

@@realentenkot7630 What on earth, did you just try to say?

Ivan Amodel. NOT a FOOLER

@JoeMama-bw2vy

4 жыл бұрын

Correct. Merely a FOOL.

Well at least you fooled us with your clickbait to get attention

@royalheadstudios0245

4 жыл бұрын

hahahaha dead

@KingPopinLockin

4 жыл бұрын

I don't get how it was clickbait??

@ernest4695

4 жыл бұрын

Amd also he didnt fool them

@rachdschraibungistwichtig724

4 жыл бұрын

@@ernest4695 why you say that?

@TheAndywooller

3 жыл бұрын

Look at his hair! The guy is a walking clickbait

Honestly they weren't fooled, they knew exactly HOW the trick was performed and detailed it well, I think the judges just want things to flow smoothly and not ever get out of hand or seem like they're being unfair. Penn shouldn't have to come out and specify WHEN the deck switch happened, he explained exactly how it was done and the only "trick" Ivan needed to accomplish was hearing Penn's state and he failed to do so. Very very awkward stage presence, didn't deserve the FU trophy in my eyes.

@hemelinger7792

5 жыл бұрын

JokeDeity , it's actually just one judge and he has worked closely with Penn & Teller. I don't think that's how this goes.

@martyndyson9501

5 жыл бұрын

And you call this entertainment??? Do you watch it for the tricks or to see if P&T can figure it out? Which you have to take in faith by the way because they don't want to ruin the trick!! The only people being fooled here is the audience and the public for being tricked into watching this crap!!!

@thesadhattah3299

5 жыл бұрын

Think they gave it to him so penn would stop talking so not to ruin the trick.

@ch33tcode

5 жыл бұрын

they gave it to him because penn and teller didn't know how he did it

@ch33tcode

5 жыл бұрын

if they weren't fooled they would've said they weren't fooled and explain how the trick was done, but they couldn't explain how it was done, because they didn't know how it was done. thats why the producers gave him the fooler

So for anyone curious about how this was done and why it was called, here's my armchair analysis: How the trick is done: There are 3 decks of cards . This is proven because 3x18 is about 50, and if there were only 2 stacks, one would be need to be significantly larger than the other. One is Given to Penn. One is given to teller. One is in his coat. He has the one in his coat memorized. Penn shuffles, hands the cards back, Ivan switches it for the one in his pocket and hands it out. His cards are in the following order 1XX2XX3XX4XX5XX6XX. When he hands them out 3 at a time, he guarantees 1 will be with group 1, 2 will be with group 2 etc. Now it doesn't matter how people shuffle because he will only be calling out the Xs. After all the Xs sit, he knows the last one standing from group 1 has 1, the last standing in group 2 has 2 etc and can call them out. Finally, the cello was supposed to communicate something about Penn's card but something went wrong which is why he graciously recovered. What went wrong: Penn starts off using stats to prove he knows the people standing are not randomly placed. The odds of that happening would be about 1/2000. Ivan gets confused since he is not using statistics to determine the cards nor is he taking probability into account when calling out the states. He asks if he remembered they shuffled (which would make the odds of guessing it in order 1/720 and thus showing he's not using some stats trick). Penn starts to elaborate a little mentioning he knows something about the clumping and how the clumping is not random which is a lot of information for the audience to potentially figure it out. At this point, his explanation still doesn't make much sense in the context but it gives the audience a huge clue as to what's happening. Ivan still doesn't know if he knows about the memorization or the slight of hand so he still doesn't know if they're fooled. Penn starts to basically give it the whole trick away with the back turned comment and the 18 divides line so the judges quickly cut him off and say fooled. They were not fooled, and it was not corrupt. Ivan was confused and Penn was hinting poorly before completely overstepping what he should have said. At that point, he should have approached Ivan and whispered it in his ear instead of potentially spoiling the effect and revealing his trick to millions. The judges reacted quickly (and I think fairly) by declaring them fooled and thus, giving him a second opportunity to perform again.

@joelsteverson

4 жыл бұрын

Awesome analysis. I think you've got it.

@saipawankumar5297

4 жыл бұрын

Amazing!! Thanks

@nandos1111

4 жыл бұрын

I would have to disagree that it was fair to say they were fooled as they clearly weren't. He definitely knew what Penn was saying as I think everyone else in the audience did.

I want my money that was spent on my WiFi gigabytes back for watching this

@nukirkking

4 жыл бұрын

It's about 40 mbs, so you'll only get back 2 cents if it was possible. Lol

@miguelsalas8583

4 жыл бұрын

nukirk.digi.tal ya id rather have that

@jerff5411

4 жыл бұрын

Time is more precious than money my friend , and we will never get that back from watching this .

@Emleo.

4 жыл бұрын

But why

@adambuglyo7594

4 жыл бұрын

Hahaha! Good thing you didn't use data! Damn that would have hurt!

The only voice he wanted to hear was Penn’s, unfortunately he didn’t yell the state name too loud. For the other people, the magician switched the deck, otherwise he would have asked Penn to hand the deck to the crowd directly.

@shaunazimmerman5800

4 жыл бұрын

Right!! And you can see the deck switch right after he asks Penn to stand up and picks up the deck again from the stool. 😉

Very sad when the magician has to click bait his OWN video--not good enough to attract viewers, apparently.

@thatdevilguy9811

3 жыл бұрын

Look at the like to dislike ratio 😂😂😂

@tanmaytikle8521

2 жыл бұрын

First he performs a lame ass trick Gets more than half of his trick decoded Then steals a trophy by arguing Clickbait is the only way he can get fame bruh His skills are shit

Umm...I don't even think I was even fooled by this guy's "hair."

They just wanted to avoid a negative back-and-forth on television, so I think the "judges" stepped in to diffuse the situation. This show's purpose is give exposure to different entertainers and to revive modern interest in magic while being fun to watch. The trophy doesn't really mean anything, yet this is the first time I saw one of the magicians trying to resist Penn and Teller even hinting at knowing the secret. It was so awkward to watch.

@pokemon05100

3 жыл бұрын

The judges know how the trick is actually performed and could easily have said he wasn't a fooler. The judges overheard the conversation between Penn and Teller when they were coming up with their guess, and the judges determined that they were not on the right track.

@dirkvandaele4466

Жыл бұрын

I think the judge is there to judge if P&T understand the trick or not. Therefore the judge knows the trick. You can see that Teller also took a card, so the deck given back had two cards missing. The end where Penn just shout out the state felt wrong.The plan was to predict that card, but there was a card missing. If he did not know if Teller had it, it can explain the akward end and why the judge steped in.

The Cello was just unnecessarily awkward.

@red3y3z1

4 жыл бұрын

So was the "magic"

@mrannunaki6852

4 жыл бұрын

Thats how the trick was done... she's not there or fun

@vojtechpilar5809

4 жыл бұрын

@@MrFartyman44 :D :D :D

@josephblanchard6248

4 жыл бұрын

No, the cello player was actually necessary. Because they play a certain note or chord(s) that signals to the magician a sort of "tell" of which way the the magician should go, or in which order they should go next...

@MrFartyman44

4 жыл бұрын

@@josephblanchard6248 How would the cellist know who has which cards?

The shuffled cards are placed on the stool 2:36 He turns his back to the audience and at the moment when the people on stage are standing up, and are therefore distracted, he crosses his arms reaches into his sleeve and palms a handful of pre-stacked cards 2:43 The pre-stacked cards are already in his right hand as he scoops the cards off of the stool with his left hand.and then, in plain sight, he adds the pre -stacked cards to the top of the stack so that the shuffled cards are on the bottom of the deck and will not be given out. 2:47-2:50 He simply passes out the pre-stacked cards in pre-determined batches and then calls out by memory all the cards of the pre-stacked groups except for one card from each group. Of course the remaining person from each group will have the card that was purposely not called out; Not much of a trick really. No real sleight of hand.

I think the judges said, "Ugh, this is boring, just give him the trophy.". Penn obviously knew it as he was talking about how the remaining people standing were each part of a separate 3-card handout. Seems pretty clear he did a deck switch at the stool so he knew what states were in each 3-card group. He calls out the names of all the states he knew were dealt except for one per group. He turns and can clearly see who's left and what states they have and pretends to need to hear their voice in order to determine their card but he really already knows. This isn't controversial, it's just kinda lame. Maybe, as someone mentioned below, Penn was just too close to giving too much info away and they wanted to protect the integrity of the trick. Edit : ALSO, you should have just admitted that they had you pegged instead of sliding through on a technicality.

My thoughts on why he let Penn say his state: 1. It is not because he's exhausted (see 6:42 ); 2. At 1:46 , he just wanted Penn to get a card but as we can see at 2:10 , Teller also got a card which made him not sure of what Penn has. In other words, he might be wrong if he tries to guess Penn's state card. I'm not a magician but my gut says that my thoughts are correct. lmao

@philipauken5391

3 жыл бұрын

@@mikeonthebox Oh they definitely know. Every 3rd person got 3 cards, shuffled, and gave them to the people on both sides. So if he gave Maine to group 1, he knows the last person standing in group one HAS to be Maine.

@dirkvandaele4466

Жыл бұрын

@@philipauken5391 Teller took a card out of the deck which probably sabotaged the trick. Penn his card should have been predicted but now there is an akward end where Penn just say the state. The judge probably knows the trick to be able to judge if P&T are fooled or not. The judge could step in and award the trophee, because he is the only one that know the issue. Do remember that Teller doesn't speak, so he could not participate in the trick. The magician probably could not figure out that Teller had the missing card or he could have improvised the ending.

I'm actually quite impressed.... with Penn and Teller. I think they could have graciously said, "Okay, the judge ruled in his favor, but we don't agree that he fooled us." It's an ego move that 1) nobody would have blamed them for but 2) might have significantly hurt Ivan Amodei's career. For P&T to suck in their pride and let him have this speaks volumes to their character.

The way that the show works, the "judges" actually know the full trick and how its done before the show. That's the reason they were able to rule that he was able to fool Penn and Teller. Alyson also explains at the end that the judges are able to listen in on Penn and Teller as they talk with each other after the trick is done. The judges made their ruling based off the fact that whatever Penn and Teller discussed between each other was an incorrect analysis of how the trick was actually done.

@mattawan1000

6 жыл бұрын

There are no judges... She made it up.

@michaelnichols8614

6 жыл бұрын

mattawan1000 that is false

@johnphanuhel2450

6 жыл бұрын

You dumbass.. no they don't. Quit making shit up just because you're too stupid to figure it out. It's a dumb trick and too obvious. The clumps were setup with the known states and no matter how they shuffled them, once the first states were called, the remaining people standing were holding the states that he had setup for those clumps. The only thing he had to do was learn how to stack, or switch a deck and nearly all magicians know how to do that. the judges only called it because there is time limit before figuring it out due to sponsors needing their greedy airtime.

@LordWiseWolf

6 жыл бұрын

Cool, thank you for explaining that

@crazyli

6 жыл бұрын

It doesn't usually go that way. Normally when there's confusion, Teller walks up to the magician and whispers directly what they think it is so the magician knows for sure if they got it or not. I feel like there was miscommunication on this trick and the judges stepped in too soon, not really following what P&T had come up with as the solution. Based on what Penn did say (in spite of really bad phrasing), it seemed like he was actually on track. He pointed out the number 18, the groups of cards, and the turned back.

Controversial because they weren't fooled...

@adryansashidharan1624

4 жыл бұрын

@Thomas King The "judges" had to intervene because Penn was revealing the entire trick in plain language rather than remaining cryptic. This trick is simple and Penn knew exactly how it was done.

@jerryhiggins7557

4 жыл бұрын

Adryan Sashidharan the judge (a well known, older magician) has the trick explained to him before the show. He knows exactly how it is done. He also listens to P&Ts discussion and knows if they are on the right track or not. He clear thought they weren’t. He has intervened in other situations where the magician has refused to concede that P&T had figured it out to say that they were not fooled. Why would he not do it this time of that was the case? It seems like P&T (like everybody else) knows that there was a force somewhere, the lack of randomness in the people left standing shows that. However, the trick is is knowing how the force was done after Penn shuffled the deck. They did not get that detail & therefore he fooled them.

@Spilly42

4 жыл бұрын

Money Mills doesn’t even need a plant to do this easy trick. He swapped the decks so he knows all the states up there and what “clump” they are in.... all he has to do is name everything until there’s a remaining few left and he knows which states are left in which clump... the trick would’ve been interesting if he guessed Penn’s card... but he didn’t even do that

@bobowlowgrowing6387

4 жыл бұрын

@@Spilly42 for that to be true he would have had to know what state Penn had first to eliminate it...

@sanjivinsmoke4587

4 жыл бұрын

@@moneymills7644 yup thats why when penn tells the audience wasnt planted he's already coz the participants are orient

The audacity to put in the description, "fooled them for over 7 minutes." The judges stopped Penn once he went into the numbers because they aren't allowed to out right ruin the trick. The only illusion here is in the delusion of actually earning that trophy.

@DragonRazor9283

4 жыл бұрын

If Penn knew he wasn’t allowed to reveal anything directly, why did he continue to do so?

@anthonyohler2029

4 жыл бұрын

Vaiterius because the guy refused to accept the code and was pissing him off

@TripleTreuViet

4 жыл бұрын

Then the judge could just went the other way n say he didn't fool them. Bottom line is he fooled them but the reason they didn't looked impressed becuz they thought they knew but that was not the case

@thesammyjenkinsexperience4996

3 жыл бұрын

lol, the comments on here are such bullshit. The judge ruled that Penn was fooled because Penn quite clearly missed the move where the ordered cards were added to the deck. Watch him when he asks Penn to stand. The cards come out from underneath the stool. Penn is too busy getting up and Teller is looking to his right for some reason. They missed the move. Penn just assumed there was a deck switch while he had his back turned. He pulled off the move right in front of them, while facing them.

@ArjunC22

2 жыл бұрын

@@anthonyohler2029 : In another show Teller went near to the participant to ask directly in case if he didn't understood the coded message.

I saw a lot of fool us performances, that was the first that is just bad. The storytelling was just uninteresting nonsense, the trick was just a simple deck switching, the ending failed awkwardly, and the cello had nothing to do with the whole thing. And you are proud of the petty trophy?

@TripleTreuViet

3 жыл бұрын

U got everything right except for the deck switch. It wasn't a deck switch it was a legit fool. It was just badly executed thats all

@I_am_Itay

3 жыл бұрын

@@TripleTreuViet Why do u think it was legit fool? In my opinion ther clearly got it but the judges didn't want to expose the trick

@pokemon05100

3 жыл бұрын

@@I_am_Itay The judges would've said he didn't fool them, then. They can rule in either direction, already know how the trick was done, and hear the whispering between Penn and Teller while they're deliberating.

So just to recap, he gave out 18 preselected cards in a predetermined order to 18 people in clumps of 3; he named 2 cards from each clump; then he told each person the card he did not name from their clump... am I missing something?? Oh... and he asks Penn and teller to shuffle a deck, has penn pick a card from that deck, asks Penn to remain standing for the duration of the trick... THEN he puts the deck down on a stool (and never uses it for any part of his trick whatsoever), removes 18 different cards from his jacket pocket, and never returns to the randomly chosen card (the climax everyone was waiting for).... If he had known Penns card that would have been the only impressive element. To me this all seemed like an enormous waste of time.

@billkeithchannel

5 жыл бұрын

He also did not name Tellers card at all.

@NetHaunt

5 жыл бұрын

You are actually wrong. See my comment for how the trick actually was done. It will blow your mind exactly how much you missed and will be apparent after reading my comment and pausing the video at the places I specify.

@SniperLogic

4 жыл бұрын

Bill Keith Channel Technically, Teller wasn’t supposed to get a card, but he took one.. Probably the reason he couldn’t name Penn’s card and also reason for judges stepping in.

@2AForever-wi8yj

4 жыл бұрын

the stool was extremely important to the trick not his coat pocket

@2AForever-wi8yj

4 жыл бұрын

@@SniperLogic I'm guessing the judge told him via the earpiece to put it back and we just don't see it. i don't think it has any bearing on the trick other than his having a card in his pocket would probably be one of the ones that was supposed to only be on stage in a volunteers hand.

The 'judges' are two extremely accomplished magicians who know exactly how the trick is done, and importantly, they listen in to P&T's deliberation when they are discussing in private (which is a lot longer than actually shown).

one of the most boring, unentertaining acts ive seen. lol.

@dangerkeith3000

5 жыл бұрын

agreed. the first thing I want to see out of a magic act is entertainment. this was so boring. i'm pretty sure P&T knew exactly how it was done, but they couldn't say unless Amodie gave away the trick because he denied all their guesses. But he didn't lie either, technically, because that's against the rules.

@yaosio

5 жыл бұрын

@@dangerkeith3000 The producers decide if they were fooled, not the magician.

@BonJody

4 жыл бұрын

Ya I wasn't that entertained either. I thought maybe there would be more but I could hear the nervousness in the magicians voice. So I kinda felt bad for him

@chk1230

4 жыл бұрын

You may not have liked the act, I didn't exactly love it, but it's far from being boring

@rahmadh.arrasyid5667

4 жыл бұрын

But you watched it

Only Penn and Teller should decide when they get fooled wtf

@petergriffin8767

4 жыл бұрын

There's a large possibility it was overturned backstage.

This guy falls into that class of immoral magicians Penn referred to once. Shameful display of pride and arrogance by Ivan Amodei.

@josefhlava9575

3 жыл бұрын

Sorry, I dont see how he was arrogant. He simply tried to talk to them. And people here write that judges said he fooled them before the trick was exposed. That seems to me truly absurd and weird. How are people so sure of that.

@royendershade8044

3 жыл бұрын

@@josefhlava9575 I don't know the reason, but the truth is that it is a simple trick, and it is clear they weren't fooled, because I know exactly how's done and they explain it very well.

@lukahavelka7875

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah for instance if 18 cards are in specific spots then if there’s only one card for each spot left then you know which card they have Or that he was only listening for penns card so he could get it but was too quiet it’s a simple trick that I assume a lot of the audience got too

@thatdevilguy9811

3 жыл бұрын

@@royendershade8044 ya same they got him but, he was able to get them to talk enough to try and catch them on something lol

@markwalters4858

3 жыл бұрын

The people arnt even random.

at 2:47 he slides shuffled cards under a set of 18 cards that he already knows the names and order of it gave each group three knows what group has what no matter if they shuffle it or not calls the name of the states. 2 from each group 6 states left 1 from each group calls those too and the trick is done

@ptneely

5 жыл бұрын

Exactly

Who else came here just to read the negative comments?

@tajvandyken1513

4 жыл бұрын

Andrei Gavrilov yep

@loganpade8608

4 жыл бұрын

Yah

My best guess of what happened is that P&T did not correctly guess how the deck switch was done. They probably thought that Ivan "shuffled" the card and chose the correct 18 cards to be on the top before giving it to the spectators. Or maybe they thought that Ivan grabbed (from his jacket) and palmed another deck while he "had his back turned". When the real deck switch happened, we can see that Penn was in the middle of standing up and not looking at the stage, while Teller was looking at Penn. Seems like both of them missed the real deck switch, and the judge think this was enough to give Ivan the trophy.

Notice how at 5:00 Illinois prematurely begins to sit. Which makes me believe the trick was set up

@ciaranbellew127

5 жыл бұрын

I was just about to write this. He is about to sit and the realises shit he hasn't said it yet then boom he's next and he sits

@mahlachi

5 жыл бұрын

Same thought exactly.

@kwahwah

5 жыл бұрын

I noticed this also, and I thought the same thing. But then, I recognised a different tic of human nature, when someone next to you sits as part of a act, and your muscle memory is just waiting for the signal from your brain, one may simily a response from a nervous participant.

@squadsixhaters8586

5 жыл бұрын

Nice observation

@geehee1976

5 жыл бұрын

Bwen I think they hear him before it’s coming out of the speakers

5:55 "Did you hear his accent?" Crickets

I was embarrassed for the dude. The judges were so embarrassed they had to step in to save face for the magician, the show, Penn, and Teller.

Boooo! He knew he didn't fool P&T. Good on him to remember the 18 states and what the groups had but poor sportsmanship on his behalf. Deck switch at 2:47

@thesammyjenkinsexperience4996

3 жыл бұрын

@Philip Tucker Penn didn't spot shit. He guessed that a deck switch took place while Ivan had his back turned. Ivan was facing them when he pulled the 18 cards out from under the stool and added them to the top of his deck. He did it right in front of them. Penn was in the process of standing up at the time, and Teller was looking to his right. They were both distracted and didn't see it.

At 5:00 the guy who has Illinois is already getting ready to sit down before his state is called

@dagmariussteide6172

6 жыл бұрын

He's the real magician x)

@timefilm

5 жыл бұрын

I noticed that. He was ready to call out and sit. A lot of the others were also ready to call out and sit too- as if they weren't getting paid enough to do this stupid gag.

@neaituppi7306

5 жыл бұрын

It looks to me like he is leaning forward to hear better. he was right next to the previous state called.

@ingainloggningsnamn

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, getting ready to hear his state get called out.

@PI7ABR3D

5 жыл бұрын

Setup

Hi Ivan, many magicians who 'didn't win' did gain positive press from their appearance on the show. Do you regret the controversy now?

how was this controversial? just seemed like an underwhelming trick to me.

@hanksbabysittingservice3241

4 жыл бұрын

IKR, I was expecting to see something extraordinarily cool here. Instead it was extraordinarily boring. This egomaniac has a lot of nerve writing this shit about himself.

@PaulHofreiter

4 жыл бұрын

Controversial, sure because they knew what he did and he didn’t admit it so the producers had to silence Penn before he completely spelled it out which is probably against a show contract. Magicians wouldn’t come on if they knew that what they do would be completely exposed to the public. So by not admitting it he forced them to give him the trophy. Even if that’s not the case it was one of the worst clips of the show I’ve ever seen. Actually, no it is definitely the worst.

@thesammyjenkinsexperience4996

3 жыл бұрын

@@PaulHofreiter Dude you are full of shit. The judge ruled Penn was wrong because he was wrong. Both Penn and Teller was distracted at the time the 18 additional cards were introduced and they missed the move. Penn guessed that a deck switch was done while Ivan had his back turned. He had no idea that Ivan pulled out the additional cards right in front of them, while facing them.

@Mr.Soul99

3 жыл бұрын

The Sammy Jenkins Experience Nope. Paul is right. When the guy refused to acknowledge that he DIDNT fool them, Penn started going deeper and deeper on how the trick was done. As soon as Penn started saying “all you needed to know is...” he got cut off by the judges because he was straight up about to expose how it was done. The guy didn’t fool them and was being a sore loser about it.

@thesammyjenkinsexperience4996

3 жыл бұрын

@@Mr.Soul99 You are both completely full of shit. Penn has completely given away acts before, there's nothing in any contract to stop him from exposing how tricks are done. However, most of the time he chooses not to and speaks in code (which is actually pretty easy to decipher.) In this case he was right about how the grouping of cards and how the selections worked, but he was wrong about where the stacked deck came from. As I said before, he was distracted at the moment the stacked deck came into play. He was just guessing that it came out while Ivan had his back turned. He really had no idea how that part was done, because he wasn't looking at Ivan when he did it and neither was Teller.

"One state for every state" my brain twitched lmao

He didn’t have them fooled. He knew what clumps were handed to what groups. He names out “random” states to get people to sit. But the people left we’re all in separate groups. So it was easy to know what states were left and where they were. Not a hard trick. He didn’t fool them.

@thememaster7

Жыл бұрын

If that were true, it would say NOT Fooled instead of Fooled. That's how the show works.

@dejviii7986

Жыл бұрын

@@thememaster7 I will repost one comment: They just wanted to avoid a negative back-and-forth on television, so I think the "judges" stepped in to diffuse the situation. This show's purpose is give exposure to different entertainers and to revive modern interest in magic while being fun to watch. The trophy doesn't really mean anything, yet this is the first time I saw one of the magicians trying to resist Penn and Teller even hinting at knowing the secret. It was so awkward to watch.

@thememaster7

Жыл бұрын

@@dejviii7986 The team would tell Penn and Teller that he didn't fool them, then they would tell the magician that the team said that he didn't fool them. Then the next magician comes on. There would be no back and forth. Not to mention that they can edit out any parts that they deem as "too awkward."

he will never be allowed back on the show.

The cello was incredibly cringy. I hated it the whole performance.

@steamboy77Production

4 жыл бұрын

An instrument was “cringy”, god damn you’re not a fun person to be around.

@arfshesaid4325

4 жыл бұрын

@@steamboy77Production arent u just sick of that pathetic girl reaction word to a spider

@steamboy77Production

4 жыл бұрын

arf shesaid what the fuck are you talking about

@nursen2106

4 жыл бұрын

it had to be cringy to be of any use at all. the sounds were part of the trick (that part, that failed)

@arfshesaid4325

4 жыл бұрын

@@steamboy77Production im talking about the way the word CRINGE gets thrown around ,. there was a time when it was basically a chick reaction word , do u understand

This is how I thought it’s done: There are two decks of card the one that he made pen n teller shuffle and the one that is the “SETUP” card. I think the setup card is place somewhere on the stool or in his pocket. SETUP cards are 18 in total. Thera are 18 people on the stage and he handed the card with the person by 3. Thats what penn is trying to say. I hope Ivan enjoys his trophy even tho he only fools himself and the people but not PnT.

Interesting trick, Ivan, and thanks for sharing it officially on KZread. I have a couple of suggestions for the presentation: 1. The premise is the ability to tune in to particular voices. It would be nice if you made every participant say something before the trick so you got to know their voices, at least have them say their names. (Maybe not allowed by the producers here due to time constraints) 2. The blindfold after they shouted the state seems very unnecessary, as seeing the participants then would not give you any additional information. 3. Although the chat with the last standing participants has a bit of humor, it seems to be based on the idea that they would have the accent of the state on their card, which does not really make any sense at all. I think having them say the name of a couple of possible states would have better supported the idea of being able to recognize their voices.

@AH-te5gs

Жыл бұрын

"1. The premise is the ability to tune in to particular voices. It would be nice if you made every participant say something before the trick so you got to know their voices, at least have them say their names. (Maybe not allowed by the producers here due to time constraints)" Isn't the point that he doesn't know where all the cards are, until only a few are left, at which point he can figure them out on the basis of the distribution?

There's no way Penn and Teller were fooled by such a lame trick but they missed how the extra eighteen cards were smuggled in and made that obvious when they suggested it was done while his back was turned. Apparently the judges considered this an important enough detail to call it the way they did. There have been other iffy winners who have won by altering one detail of a well known trick.

@thenotsoguitarguy9429

6 жыл бұрын

Rick MacKenzie - usually when the magician is altering one aspect of a well known trick they concede that from the outset. I'm thinking of either the guy with the classic coin trick or the cup and ball guy in particular. Can't remember which.

@ineffecient8243

5 жыл бұрын

The musician is watching Penn and reading his lips. That's why she suddenly changes the music. Ivan either forgot what that particular tune meant or didn't hear it properly so he conceded and let him reveal it instead of potentially guessing wrong and looking like a fool.

@wyhiobcarlile4879

5 жыл бұрын

Rick MacKenzie it's less that they were fooled it's more that they just missed something which was him drawing another deck also this title was made by the guy who did the trick and last but not least the trick is incredibly lame he couldn't even guess tellers card

The intro piece for this guy screamed Megalomaniac... His performance and refusal to accept P&T's explanation of his bland trick proved what the intro video suggested. This dude is weeeeird....

"one state for every. state. " errrrr

@wayneyadams

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, it is supposed t be humor dumbass! Take some Ex-Lax, get rid of your constipation and get s sense of humor!

I saw this magician in person, and the Cello player is not part of the magic act. She is a part of show. The stage he is on here is a poor example of that, but it definitely makes sense if you go see him at one of his shows. He doesn't have a stage full of people. The cello player sets the mood for his type of act. I definitely enjoyed seeing his show.

@UwU-eb3hq

5 жыл бұрын

the cello player - aka his wife IS ANNOYING

@darkersandman2328

5 жыл бұрын

Why does it say 5 replys but I can't find them?

@SniperLogic

4 жыл бұрын

Darker Sandman Where you see 5, I see 2?

I think the judges actually intervened because the way Penn was explaining things was getting too obvious and he was giving the trick away. "All you needed to know was 18 ..." and then the judges intervened. So they did nail the deck switch and the "clumping" but it was getting to clear.

@daryljones9367

4 жыл бұрын

My exact thought

2:47 is the exact moment that Ivan pulled another deck of cards from under the stool. Immediately after this you notice he flips the cards around, ensuring the pre chosen cards are on top and given to "groups" of people. From there its a numbers game.

Wait, I thought Penn and Teller were the judges...

@3allawiii

4 жыл бұрын

Well no, they are there to try figure out the trick. Someone backstage knows it and will let them know if they got it or not, without revealing the trick.

@elsonlam

4 жыл бұрын

All performers told the judges how the tricks are done beforehand. Penn and Teller try to their best to be vague when they guess the trick so they won't give away the trick to the audience. If there is a disagreement between the performer and Penn/Teller on whether the guess was correct, the judges act as the final arbiter and make that decision.

@LutherAmosHouse

4 жыл бұрын

Up until his death Tomasoni of (The Great) Tomasoni of Tomasoni and Company got final say. I can't remember where I read that fact

@craigyoung9321

4 жыл бұрын

Who's fooled now? Lol

Poor Penn all he did was stand.

@SniperLogic

4 жыл бұрын

ヅEman Hey! He got to say Rhode Island! Nobody else got to say that! Lol.

They had you dead to right, dude. you should have just accepted the loss and moved on. Mind, I suppose it worked out okay for you, so what do I know.

@Blood0cean

5 жыл бұрын

Not judging by these comments. His trick was lame as fuck and he muscled himself into a trophy to write on his shitty I fool kids and morons resume.

@FreedomOrNothin

4 жыл бұрын

He is tormented by what he's done. We should all forgive him and let it go. He was trying to entertain us after all. He just made some mistakes.

@craigyoung9321

4 жыл бұрын

@@FreedomOrNothin if he was tormented I don't think he would then post it on his KZread channel. That's my opinion anyway

@theduder2617

4 жыл бұрын

They had nothing. Penn only had one tiny part correct. But both were clueless and judges stepped in because random guesses are not knowing how it was done. If they were allowed to randomly guess on each performance, there would be a lot less winners of this show. Probability dictates almost anyone will eventually guess as to how this was done, but that's not how this show works. Either they know or they do not. And they hadn't a clue about this illusion, trust me. This has been done before. Not as original as this performance, but Penn was not hitting the mark so to speak. Scroll the comments here for signs of how it was done. Hint: It's all about humanity's tendency to presume and assume. For without that quirk of humanity, these sorts of illusions would not work as they consistently do. Take human psychology courses if you would like to kill illusions like this for yourself. Actually, don't. I have always regretted it. That spark of "awe" was extinguished because of those courses.

@theduder2617

4 жыл бұрын

@@Blood0cean And your way of thinking is exactly why illusions like this work time and time again. You assume he denied Penn's guesses in order to win. But the show does not function that way at all. Penn merely was not hitting the mark. He was lobbing random guesses which is not allowed. And that is why the judges stepped in. Anyone can make guesses. Penn and Teller's jobs are to either know or not know. In this case, they simply did not know. You can learn this "trick" for yourself and fool even the smartest person you know. The answer to the question of how this was done is in this video. But just as the audience, you too looked right passed it. Apologies, but that is all you will even get from me about how this was done. Psychology courses destroyed the shine of magic for me. I refuse to extinguish that light for anyone else. But I assure you, this was a legitimate fooling of Penn and Teller.

When she's talking I always think she's gonna say a story about this one time in bandcamp

@CybaTronikk

5 жыл бұрын

I always think that she is gonna tell us some story about Marshall, Ted or Barney.

@vidagogo9829

4 жыл бұрын

And about that flute...

@bo6838

4 жыл бұрын

Say my name bitch 🤣

I wish we could also hear what P & T discussed like the Judges got to when they made the decision ! We need instant replay !

*You guys didn't even notice the MAGICIAN wrote that click bait title on his own channel to get the most views lol, this wasn't controversial at all, he just simply fooled them.*

@blankhorizons9847

5 жыл бұрын

This video is two years old, we're just feeding him views hhh

@abusethesun

5 жыл бұрын

That was the only part of this trick that was worth anything

@dasgregorian

5 жыл бұрын

and he didn't fool them. They just didn't say it clearly enough to directly give away the trick. Judges pulled a michael jordon and just gave it to him.

@shishkabob984

5 жыл бұрын

honestly thats a good enough magic trick for me

@tomewall8982

5 жыл бұрын

Boss Bunny Yes, that was a good trick.

Fooled em so hard they didn't even know they'd been fooled

@simonvillalba7585

6 жыл бұрын

MakoaMain I

@uppercutgrandma4425

6 жыл бұрын

MakoaMain lolols

@RoyalMountedAnkleBiters

6 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@percn0witzki

6 жыл бұрын

MakoaMain in my 20 minutes searching through these comments, you sir have by far the most amazing comment in this section

@zangin

6 жыл бұрын

Yes sir! The worst kind of a fool!

4:59 mr. Illinois knew he will be called next. A little excited to sit.

@JSpiffy

4 жыл бұрын

Rain Escoto Good catch

@antoniodiavolo

4 жыл бұрын

Penn and Teller don't allow plants on the show. And the magician has to reveal the exact method to the judges beforehand so he can't lie.

Illinois guy was starting to sit like he knew he was being called...

@WigantX

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@hanleygaming1218

4 жыл бұрын

So glad I wasn’t the only one who noticed 😂

@morganlefaye3079

4 жыл бұрын

They're not plants, they literally said that

@WigantX

4 жыл бұрын

@@morganlefaye3079 I was watching photos of a plant when I received your comment notification. Creepy.

@maldust7438

4 жыл бұрын

@@morganlefaye3079 yeah of course they say that. Do u really believe evrything u see on tv?

Cello doesn’t work. At. All.

@johnkrois

5 жыл бұрын

Untuned?

@plain_doll

5 жыл бұрын

The cello may have been part of the trick

@SteveBennett1

5 жыл бұрын

It was meant to be, but failed. She had one job.

@loch1694

5 жыл бұрын

Craig Jackson She was giving him clues via notes I think

@anthonydionne4703

5 жыл бұрын

Illinois was sitting down before called next. Wasn't surprised by it.

That guy sucks. To me the ability to become submerged and at the mercy of the illusion is completely destroyed when they pull out some choreographed feigned exasperation like, "Oh boy. This is really gonna be tough this time." Not real clear on why the part where he passed the cards to the three in the front row is edited out, but I'm guessing it was so poorly executed that he removed it. His distracting of Penn and somewhat frantic grab for the deck hidden under the stool was so poorly executed that it only could've possibly fooled anyone who had their head turned, as Penn did. That and the way he manipulated the outcome by dishonestly refusing to acknowledge that Penn nailed it by correctly identifying the method used smacks of this guy's utter lack of respect, integrity and dedication to the craft. That's why he has bullshit written all over his face. He just wanted that shit to pad his resume. Hate to think that he is benefiting in any way off the undeserved association with these great illusionists. What a putz.

@etherraichu

4 жыл бұрын

He also edited out a lot of penn and teller's discussion to make it look like it happened faster than it did. Not good at magic, not good at editing, good at wasting time.

@ginnopatricio4333

4 жыл бұрын

@@etherraichu can u guys enlighten me, why do you say penn nailed him when the judges backstage says otherwise? Am i missing something or what? Thanks!

@ginnopatricio4333

4 жыл бұрын

@@Blood0cean can u guys enlighten me, why do you say penn nailed him when the judges backstage says otherwise? Am i missing something or what? Thanks!

@darkdeere6695

4 жыл бұрын

@@ginnopatricio4333 the "judge" isn't really a judge, he's the producer who tried to stop penn from giving the trick away. all u need to know is that this guy is a snake and should have admited defeat when p&t were right

@ginnopatricio4333

4 жыл бұрын

@@darkdeere6695 i get that but what's the point of the show if the producer will let someone win if he didn't fool penn and teller at all? Did he just do it just to avoid commotion?

Cards were divided into 6 groups only showed him passing out 3 groups but you can see at end him handing a stack to lady front right (deception camera work) Each group was to pass 4 cards + - to their left so each group had 1 person remaining he knew CT AL HI NY were all the control states He knew each group had that control group so he knew front 1st in line had to have CT because other 3 were seated and he knew all cards in every group. Notice if you break the groups down every standing person was in one of the 6 groups 6 groups of 4 he knw every card in every group so he named 3 of the 4 states in each group leaving only one possible State that person standing would have. Penns stack had all the remaining states not in the stacked deck or control deck hence the 24 people plus the 1 half of 50 states Thats why he didnt know Penns State

I'm seeing alot of comments in here saying the "judge was fired." the "judges" in the booth is another magician and friend of pen and teller whom produces the show for them. He's the guy that gets the acts on the show for the duo and he knows how the act is done ahead of time. Based on how pen explains the act he's the one saying "they've got it" or "they don't" and by my understanding is the ultimate final call. The point where pen days "is it true" you can see him lean over where he's listening to his ear piece, I suspect that question was directed to the booth and not to the guy on stage

FAKE LOOK AT THE ILLINOIS DUDE HE KNEW HE WAS ABOUT TO BE CALLED LOOK 4:58 - 5:03

@palazzo1113

6 жыл бұрын

Glitch Bone Good catch, man.

@triiyt179

6 жыл бұрын

Nononono

@potatomanmrhandle

6 жыл бұрын

I know your comment is 10 months old, I just wanted to let you know that what we see are several cuts and filmings of the same thing happening over and over again pieced back together to a coherent show, thats how any show is made, someone fucked up at some point making it so they had to re-record the part where he called out illinois, the guy having illinois as a state was probably nervous and misheard the state name.

@poopstained_jelly6008

6 жыл бұрын

Glitch Bone I was going to comment that

@elboricua123

6 жыл бұрын

Honestly to me it looked like he leaned forward to hear better. Something i do on occasion.

That's just the worst ending of a magic trick can ever have. You can never disappoint the audience at the end, you can disappoint during the trick to build up tension, but at the end, it needs to be a massive reveal. He literally just wasted Penn's time there. If the trick does not actually require a set up deck, then he could've also just let Penn give out those cards to the people sitting down to make it more powerful since he doesn't touch anything.

It was a bit disappointing to see “I’m done” after asking Penn’s card instead of stating the card.

@AGallegos288

3 жыл бұрын

Penn's was the only one he actually "needed" to hear but Penn didn't say his state loud enough so he couldn't guess it

@wayneyadams

3 жыл бұрын

It was meant to be humorous! What is wrong with you people, are you so constipated that you can't recognize humor?!

@zizimugen4470

3 жыл бұрын

@@wayneyadams a performance has a certain formula if it’s a quality one. Intro, rise, climax, release. Not meant to sound sexual, but it’s what gets people off.

They didn't look fooled at all and Penn was about to reveal something when he was abruptly interrupted.

@thesammyjenkinsexperience4996

3 жыл бұрын

@Thomas King Penn understood how the prediction part worked, he just didn't understand how he got from a shuffled deck to the ordered groups of cards. His guess of a deck switch while Ivan's back was turned to them was wrong.

So here's what I find interesting about this. So from doing my own research on how this show works I found out that the performers show the producers how the trick they perform works so that there's no lying or cheating involved when Penn explains what he thinks. That being said, the judges would've have only made the decision they made if Penn and Teller's decision was in fact the wrong one, which it technically was. From what I can tell, the judges made their because Penn and Teller didn't notice the move where he gets the cards form the stool and thought the card selection was achieved through some other means. I don't think this is a really controversial trick, just one with a nice slight of hand move that went unnoticed. I think what Penn was thinking was something along the lines of the cards given out were the card only one of them shuffled or something like that.

@outwithrealitytoo

5 жыл бұрын

At 9:00 Penn specifically mentions a switch - frankly given the magician wandering the stage "with his back turned" he could have switched a coach and horses at many points.

@wayneyadams

5 жыл бұрын

That brings up the question of what fooling them means? They knew the deck was ordered, and how he was able to name the states, they just missed the deck switch, so did he really fool them? Since he could not name Penn's state and tried to pass it off as a comical moment should have disqualified him for the trophy.

@wayneyadams

5 жыл бұрын

@@outwithrealitytoo A good magician would have made the switch in front of everyone. He reminds me of the way little kids do magic with the turning around to do some manipulation out of sight.

@SniperLogic

4 жыл бұрын

The participants shuffled their set of cards after he handed them to them. How did he work that out?

@flipitgood2

4 жыл бұрын

@@SniperLogic The structure of the reveal makes the shuffle irrelevant. He handed out sets of three, and then called two of them in the blindfold roll call. For example, he knew that he had handed three cards to the guy in blue in the leftmost front chair: Connecticut, Nevada, and New Mexico. He Kept one and the next two guys got the other two. While blindfolded he called Nevada and New Mexico. This makes two of those three guys sit down, and whichever one of those three was left must have Connecticut in the final reveal. Penn talking about statistics and clumping was code that he recognized that there was exactly one card left from each set handed out, resulting in the final six having exactly one person from the left, the right, and the middle trios of each row, whereas a truly random distribution of the six final cards could endup heavy on a row or end compared to the other.

Penn and teller weren’t fooled.

@Chip1329

6 жыл бұрын

They were fooled. They were guessing a statistics method, but the trick was a deck switch on the bench at about 2:45.

@rodh1404

6 жыл бұрын

There were two parts to this trick. P&T clearly knew how the second part was done, but they didn't address the first part at all, which was the removal of two random cards to begin with. Personally, I don't know how it was actually done, but I can think of one way that would work. The first deck probably had only 32 unique cards, with 18 duplicates at the bottom to make up 50 cards and make it look like they were all unique cards if you split the deck in two. After that, you had a deck swap and P&T strongly hinted how the rest of the trick goes. Technically, they were fooled because they didn't explain the first part, but I'd be very surprised if they couldn't work it out. And in their shoes, given how they explained the most significant part of the trick, I'd be a little upset at people saying they were fooled.

@garychapman2055

6 жыл бұрын

They did very clearly hint at the deck switch. They knew they had been shuffling dead cards... and they explained EVERY part of the trick. Literally, every part ... it wasn't even subtle. They KNEW he'd let the audience shuffle ... but ONLY within their groups of three. Basically, it was all VERY obvious and lacked any real skill or technical ability. But there's also something you might not have noticed... which may have a bearing on why he was let through... Obviously... Penn cannot select a card that matches an audience card, so the cards Penn had shuffled and selected from were a different subset. Teller had the half which would have included the audience cards ... if Teller chose a card, it could (and most likely, would) be a duplicate. Unfortunately, Teller took a card when he wasn't instructed to - and put it in his pocket. This stolen card is an interference, and it would likely prove that the deck had been switched (it would probably match one of the audience cards) So, Teller had inadvertently interfered with the trick... not that it really mattered in the end. The trick was truly shit and would have been uncovered anyway. It involved no technical skill at all, it's a simple kids trick ... even the deck switch was done without any finesse. But I think there was some dispute edited out of the aired footage, relating to Teller accidentally breaking the deck and taking a card, and because of the tampering the judges HAD to rule in Ivans favour. But the trick definitely didn't fool P&T, and really wasn't even remotely good enough for the Vegas show. I bet Penn was real grumpy about that. I imagine lots of stomping about and grumbling at the production crew. Penn is a notorious perfectionist : )

@hiTocopter

6 жыл бұрын

+Chip Wilson They did not guess that he used statistics. They said that if it was truly random, statistically the groups of people left standing would not be interspersed as they were, but would have had lumps. It was a prelude to explaining how the magician controlled the cards he dealt out, not that he used statistics to guess the states of some people.

@garychap8384

6 жыл бұрын

+hiTp1337, +Chip Wilson Absolutely. They did not say he USED a statistical method. They pointed a particular, clearly observed, statistic that revealed the method. They were absolutely right too, it was the perfect 'smoking gun' They were as clear as they could possibly be, and they nailed it. In fact, the whole thing was just a variation on a cheap trick that we kids used to pull in secondry school with playing cards... just polished up with spectators and a stage. Old as the hills, and requires no talent. The idea that P&T were fooled on that occassion is ridiculous.

lmao wow dude I can’t believe you felt compelled to put your name and ticket info at the end of that. what a boring “trick” that no one was fooled by 😂😂😂

@logicunknowntoyounooo9400

4 жыл бұрын

ok big masta of magic Super Maggie. You seem to know it so well. How did they do it my big masta senpain please tell me

@emye35

4 жыл бұрын

@@logicunknowntoyounooo9400 she still hadsn't told us how the trick was done.

@vthammerman

4 жыл бұрын

At 2:43 you can see him turn his back and pull the 18 new cards out of his sleeve and palm them. You can totally tell they are in his palm when he picks the deck back up off the stool.

@stitchgrimly6167

4 жыл бұрын

'the famed illusionist' haha

@Josef_R

4 жыл бұрын

@@emye35 Why does she need to tell you how it was done? Penn clearly tells Teller while the judges are talking that he doesn't know how else to tell him they knew. He was on the verge of spilling the secret when the judges butted in. You don't need to be able to explain the trick to know that the guy is a fraud.

We were fooled into watching this

The only part they missed was when asked to stand, Penn looks at his side table and Teller also takes his eyes off the magician, just as he does the deck switch at 2:48. That he got two magicians to simultaneously avert their attention at the critical moment is the best part of this trick andIMO they were fooled because they both missed a fairly obvious move done right before their eyes.

@Myztek26

5 жыл бұрын

Martin Air are you a magician?

@heroclix0rz

5 жыл бұрын

No, Penn said he turned his back on them with the deck, implying that a deck swap would have been trivial. At 9:03 Penn says "you remember that I shuffled, you also remember that you shuffled", he tries to play off like only they influenced the deck, and then Penn says, "but you turned your back, you could have been setting it up."

@vovowo9252

5 жыл бұрын

Keen eye

@gregoryburke7011

5 жыл бұрын

good eye man]

@tobiasegebjerg4259

5 жыл бұрын

To be fair that's the amazing part about live magic, you can't pause and reply to figure out what happened

HE MEMORIZED 18 STATES AND ONLY HANDS OUT THOSE CARDS. He knows who has what at the final six because he knew which clump had which cards.. So 1st group had 3 cards, one was Hawaii, etc.

@DavidSoucie

6 жыл бұрын

Yep. He grabs those 18 off the bottom of the stool at about 2:45-2:50

10k like & 8,5k dislike today.. That's why you don't clickbait😂

"If i touch somebody and it affects them, I've done my job." 0:45

@daryljones9367

4 жыл бұрын

I'm so done lmao

When he says Florida the guy from Illinois tries to sit , which he does a moment later when he says his card. 4:57

@uwinvidanage2252

5 жыл бұрын

Audio might not be obtained in sync

@Darkrocmon

5 жыл бұрын

or also reflexes when someone next to you is standing and sits down most people do also. No plants are used in this show the producer knows the trick before it even hits the stage and one rule is no plants can be used

The music was just annoying

@omarkhan5223

5 жыл бұрын

Strategically distracting perhaps...?

@squadsixhaters8586

5 жыл бұрын

Like srsly

@highpocket888

5 жыл бұрын

I wonder if she was using notes to give him the hints that he needed

@coreyaudet4297

5 жыл бұрын

WOW! Smart thinking!

@robertdevino4109

5 жыл бұрын

But how would she know ??? I mean it's a good idea but really how would she know?

Penn and Teller knew how the trick was done, but Teller took a card from the deck and pocketed it. I am fairly certain that ended up granting the magician an automatic fooled us.

@jlinms8721

4 жыл бұрын

He told them to

@jordanmpaul

4 жыл бұрын

@@jlinms8721 no, he told penn to take a card not teller, he wanted them both to shuffle but only told penn to take the card. That possibly threw off part of his trick.

if there's anything i can appreciate about this is that he allowed comments and ratings on this lol

He only gave out 18 cards after a deck swap. All he had to do was memorize those 18, which is why he had no idea about penn's card. As for how he knew the individuals, penn explained it pretty well. Clumping. He knew which cards were in which groups and who was in which group. He knew the order of the cards. What is impressive is his memory, but its underwhelming in terms of showmanship, surprise and overall entertainment.

Rob Lowe does magic now?

@almond6520

5 жыл бұрын

Naaaaaaahhhh, I think that's Charlie Sheen.

@Crackpot_Astronaut

5 жыл бұрын

You guys are crazy. Erik Estrada to the max.

@andrewbarber5290

5 жыл бұрын

You think he looks like Rob Lowe? Get your glasses checked, Stevie Wonder.

@arthurfranklin9315

5 жыл бұрын

Mitty is right. Not that he is as tall as Rob Lowe or anything, but Ivan's stage presence is almost exactly that of Rob Lowe's character from Parks and Recreation

I must not have enough stress in my life because I keep coming back to this and getting pissed off again. He had an attitude before they even strated busting him.

@PaulHofreiter

4 жыл бұрын

Monte Anderson when he said like a snake, quietly “it’s hard for me to tell...if they got it” I rolled my eyes so hard they almost fell out of my head. Such a weasel, no respect for the craft, the show or for Penn and Teller.

What is the cello piece that the cellist first plays in his "overview" so to speak. The one with voice as well? Please let me know as this is a piece I haven't heard in many years.

Nothing controversial or even interesting here. Artists that write their own clickbait KZread titles annoy everyone...

@TheHungrySlug

5 жыл бұрын

what about the part at the start??? If I touch someone and it affects them.....?? I've done my job

@cako666

5 жыл бұрын

Totally agree, this dude is a piece of garbage

@jsaplala1524

4 жыл бұрын

Pen and teller weren't fooled, but, they still gave him the trophy.

This video has over 5million views, but this guy has under 4 thousand subscribers. Exhibit A that you need more than clickbait views to grow a channel.

I agree with several others here that Penn and Teller were not fooled at all, the judges intervened before Penn could say too much. It's also very likely that Teller taking a card (put in breast pocket) when he was only instructed to shuffle his half of the deck screwed up the trick, specifically the ability to name Penn's card (possible edit there, but what we saw was that Teller had to be asked, not told). With the blowoff (final reveal) blown, the best thing was to cut him loose. It's only a trophy and they didn't want to damage the guy's reputation out of professional courtesy. I'd like to note that, if true, this does not reflect on Penn and Teller, only on the show's producers, and that it's just entertainment, not life and death.

@SniperLogic

4 жыл бұрын

hereswhatisee True comment. A rarity in this thread.

There is absolutely no way that this guy fooled Penn and Teller.

Teller taking a card without beeing ask to do so , completly ruined hi's trick :))))))

@PositivelyBrainwashed

3 жыл бұрын

Wasn't he asked to do so?

@tanmaytikle8521

2 жыл бұрын

Nope He should've been more clear with his instructions He was cocky and overconfident

Literally even I know how he did this. It's similar to the classic trick where have someone choose a card out of 21 random cards, shuffle the hell out of the cards, and then deal the 21 into groups of three. You then have the person pick which group of three their card is in, put that group in the middle, deal again, ask again, and then their card will always be the 11th card you deal. It's a combinatorial (or statistical) trick and the boys definitely knew it. And even said. This was lame.

@antoniodiavolo

4 жыл бұрын

Uhhh no

Very surprised comments haven't been disabled

Just a lesson in accreditation and candor: Ivan Amodei, you should *always* give credit to people who feature prominently throughout your performance. I am aware that this show is about magicians, but you specifically said that the "cello creates a soundtrack to the show and just allows you to get into the feeling that I want you to have about the illusion that is coming". That means the *nameless cellist plays a major role in your performance and needs to also be given credit for the illusion itself (as you have implied).

@sammymoynihan6293

Жыл бұрын

Yeah that was pretty upsetting. It was so bizarre to just refer to someone as "a cellist" rather than credit them properly

@thememaster7

Жыл бұрын

Could be misdirection.

2:48 "so I'm gonna take I'm gonna get you have one, yes?" "I do." lol wtf

@Blood0cean

5 жыл бұрын

His brain was busy trying to talk normal while under pressure of hoping the deck switch wasn't noticed.

@ceebeebrown2904

4 жыл бұрын

"""Av u been drinkin sir""" YES ERRRR YESS NO I DO YES NP I AV. AV I YES

Anyone noticed Illinois, person was prepared to sit before he was called. As if he knew he’d be next

@matthewr920

4 жыл бұрын

Illinois, where if you see people going down around you, instinct kicks in and you join em. Perception +1

Ok, I've not read any other replies here, so sorry if these things have already been mentioned: 1) When he asks the people on stage to sit down when he calls out the state on the card they're holding, 2 sit down when he says New Jersey 2) All those people on stage should've shown their card to camera each time they were called out to prove they were indeed holding that particular state. 3) He asks Penn what state he's holding, Penn tells him and he replies, "You are correct." Have I missed something , what's magic or illusional about that?

@hanksbabysittingservice3241

4 жыл бұрын

I think pulling a bunny out of a hat would be more impressive than this guy's boring act.

I believe I have the explanation: P&T knew there was a deck switch, they knew everything about handing out the predetermined packages (clumps of 3 cards), they knew how the trick was done and everything else Aaron DeVandry mentioned. But the problem was in the focus. They didn't "catch" him. They weren't able to precisely determine the exact moment when he fooled them. They knew "how", but not "when", and thus Amodei fooled them according to the rules of this game. They focused on the idea that Amodei switched the decks when he was turned around (meaning, he grabbed his prearranged deck from his jacket pockets and made a switch, when in fact, he had taken the second deck from the stool). He combined the decks in palms of his hands, making it all look like one unique deck. The moment when he just put the shuffled deck into his pockets is completely irrelevant in this case, because P&T missed that causative part of the method. If they happened to mention ANYTHING about the stool, Amodei would have to step back, or judge would do that instead of him. But they said absolutely nothing about the stool, they sticked to the sleight of hand when he had his back turned, when in fact, he just covered up his previous move and finished the method to the end. They thought him being turned was the beginning of the sleight of hand, when in fact it had already finished with that part being the last one in the method and simply being the finisher move. P&T can't possibly say they haven't been fooled if they were only aware of the finisher part. They completely missed the stool. You see by the Amodei's reaction that he knows he "has them cornered", because he is very well aware of the rules of the game. He is aware of the fact that they are not mentioning anything about the stool, as they are being completely focused on the moment when he had his back turned. Thus the overrule by the judge. He fooled them. He really did and they all know it.

@azraelbatosi

4 жыл бұрын

Lovre considering “winning’ through a rather labored technicality won him essentially nothing but scorn from a third party audience...it really doesn’t matter