In this clip from our tour with Paul Heyman in 2016, Mr Heyman breaks down what he thinks needs to be done to make modern pro wrestling matter, how to book feuds where all parties are elevated, how the basic model for a wrestling story works, and more. Subscribe to the channel for more clips of our live shows and interviews and don't forget to like and comment too!

@AB-yo4ni

2 жыл бұрын

This clip is the literal AEW blueprint.

@Azordazor

2 жыл бұрын

Aew does this very well actually. WWE used to do this well but they dropped the ball 2010's 😬

@ozzy6312708

2 жыл бұрын

@@AB-yo4ni not truly, they fall short

I was at this show in Glasgow & Paul answered my question whilst simultaneously dealing with a drunk heckler & then came back to my question without missing a beat, it was flawless. The man is a genius & NEEDS to be in the hall of fame yesterday.

@phoenixfront

2 жыл бұрын

Completely agree Paul is 100% one of if not the greatest mind ever in wrestling

@dudeda96er

2 жыл бұрын

Needs to be in the HoF five years ago IMO 🤷🏻‍♂️

@Yamah12a

2 жыл бұрын

@@phoenixfront He is good but he can't run a business for shit, though he is good at creative he is behind the like of Jim Cornette! Period.

@phoenixfront

2 жыл бұрын

@@Yamah12a I completely agree I was more coming from the perspective of creative and also just promos in wrestling in general

@SalsBrain

2 жыл бұрын

When was this show?

Paul Heyman is the greatest wrestling salesman of all time

@rodycaz8984

2 жыл бұрын

Nah, Vince McMahon is.

@mikaelpecan5991

2 жыл бұрын

Depends on who you ask. I’m sure RVD, Sabu, and all the ecw guys don’t feel the same xD

@Yamah12a

2 жыл бұрын

Good salesman, awful and untrustworthy business man.

@bigtimegangster4675

2 жыл бұрын

Paul Heyman is a legend. But this video was a waste of my time.You must not of paid Paul enough for any real secrets.

@jordank1489

2 жыл бұрын

If he wasn't in wrestling, he'd be selling watches on Madison Avenue.

I could listen to Heyman talk wrestling all day

@boondogglet132

2 жыл бұрын

nah bro. maybe like 10 minutes tops. i would say his voice is like nails on a chalkboard but nails on a chalkboard wont give you hearing cancer. lmao

@Smallestpenis

2 жыл бұрын

@@boondogglet132 and yet you’re still here on a video where he talks. So I have my doubts you actually think that. It’s more like you’re being contrarian just for the sake of being contrarian.

@boondogglet132

2 жыл бұрын

@@Smallestpenis I bet you are a lot of fun at social gatherings huh?

@thelawsonman

Жыл бұрын

@@boondogglet132 eh, i like his voice, but you do you.

This explains perfectly why long term booking is so important! Build up to compelling match ups within the story of the ring.

@tonyjackson4078

2 жыл бұрын

This is why Brian Danielson is helping AEW more than Punk.

@Jukeboxster

Жыл бұрын

the ring is a small part of the actual storyline, the wrestling is simply the device to move along the story. If we think of the best storylines of all time, the storylines are what we remember most, not the match

@grammysworld5449

Жыл бұрын

@@tonyjackson4078 Punk LITERALLY worked with all of the young guys the first 5 months he was there lmaooo uninformed

@fehner27

Жыл бұрын

Paul's explanation on booking sounds like exactly what he would do in ECW.

@terrencemgentry

7 ай бұрын

​@@JukeboxsterKZreadrs who weren't even born when Foley & Undertaker's HIAC match happened do reaction videos. What was the story for that match??

I remember years ago at WrestlCon, I ran into TNA Wrestler Moose. I asked him about a match he had with a guy named Joe Coffee. They both had the same finisher. I asked what that was like. He told me it was “The easiest story to tell. “Who does it better?””. Simplicity can be a real treat

It’s so simple, make us care about more than 1-2 characters at one time on the same show.

When it comes to promoters Heyman is Randy Savage to Vince McMahon's Hogan. Heyman might not have come close to McMahon's heights, but Heyman will be more revered by fans and wrestlers alike.

@btf_flotsam478

2 жыл бұрын

Correction: they did come close but didn't quite match it (and the level of major success and permanent legacy that came with it).

@ladistar

2 жыл бұрын

Dude Randy savage was just as big as hulk hogan at some points

He’s absolutely right and some of the best bookings around at this very moment have these simple plots behind them, the two I’m most interested in rn are good examples Bobby Lashley v Brock Lesnar. Both are monsters, both making a name since their comeback years ago, both are known for sheer power and winning streaks. Make ‘em fight, the sparks fly immediately CM Punk vs MJF, old talent who used to be a rebel star with a self proclaimed “best in the world” mentality going against a new talent with a similar mentality and a corporate golden child. Perfection. So simple. Works so easy

@thatbrownchild9922

2 жыл бұрын

but there’s really no story with cm punk and mjf, punk randomly came out to interrupt him one night and then all they mention is wwe in their promos, there’s really no reason why their fighting they just got thrown together two months into cm punks return.

@feature.of.jarjar24

2 жыл бұрын

@@thatbrownchild9922 It's a story between the old and the new. The old wanting to earn the gold and prove he's still worth something and has many years ahead of him, and the new voicing his disappointment in his old idol, saying that he is, in fact, the best around, and is also running on the same path to the championship. Them clashing was going to be inevitable.

@Markleadguitar

2 жыл бұрын

@@thatbrownchild9922 There is a story. Everyone knows MJF is good, and how would he act if CM Punk shuts him up? It's enough to consider that Punk might lose.

@ramadhanalbi4857

2 жыл бұрын

@@Markleadguitar you mark always everywhere 🤢😂🤡

If there was a wrestling company ran by Paul Heyman and William Regal and they could coexist and get along, it would be amazing.

@2texastornado

2 жыл бұрын

Add Jim Cornette to make it a trio running a wrestling company. That would be amazing. But that duo would be awesome as well

@provider1002

2 жыл бұрын

@@2texastornado I don’t know if there’s much history between them (I wasn’t around during their time) but I feel like Paul and Jim wouldn’t get along especially working long term like that lmao

@staycold682

2 жыл бұрын

@@2texastornado Honestly though, you can keep Cornette lol He's racist, homophobic, transphobic and a plethora of other things. I think in 2022 the less we hear about him the better. Not to doo doo on your opinion though my dude :)

@Zack_410

2 жыл бұрын

@@2texastornado Cornette is a dinosaur

@jininycricket7089

9 ай бұрын

​@@provider1002Cornette and Paul despite having complete ends on booking philosophy were apparently good friends going from the territories to WCW up until the smw and ecw endings

Who are these two guys? A:Roman Reigns and Brock Lesnar Why are they fighting? A:For the custody of Paul Heyman Why should I care enough to watch it? A: you'll find out who exactly is Paul Heyman loyal to and the universal championships on the line

His mind for the business is truly incredible, it’s unbelievable.

Paul basically booked Bryan Danielson vs Hangman Adam page lmao

@btf_flotsam478

2 жыл бұрын

It's simple stuff and it works. Current-day AEW practically meets every standard of good booking and this is included.

@Jukeboxster

Жыл бұрын

in theory yes, but Hangman has the charisma of a dried turnip. JR told of a time where Heyman wanted Nunzio to be in the WWE championship picture. Heyman's ideas work in theory, but geniuses can overestimate their abilities, and sometimes think their ideas will carry the day regardless of who's executing the ideas. You still need talent to maximize the story's effectiveness.

Damn if Paul steps in politics he will definitely going to crush other politicians because of the way he presents his speech

@Thecultofwrestling

2 жыл бұрын

No one knows how to use the English language more than Paul e

I’ve gotta admit Paul Heyman has a good point here, and do you wanna know why…. Because all of a sudden I really wanna watch the match between the undefeated submission specialist and the undefeated submission escape artist right now, AND IT WAS ONLY MEANT TO BE AN EXAMPLE!!! Side note, can someone please book this, because I’d really be quite interested to see it hahahah :D

@awesomeak9739

2 жыл бұрын

Same

@l2j867

2 жыл бұрын

Facts

@ProGammar

2 жыл бұрын

Well I guess we can book this match ourselves, we’ll just have to get out the old Smackdown Vs Raw games and hop onto the MyGM Mode hahah

@boondogglet132

2 жыл бұрын

do you want to know why? because Paul Heyman is probably the worlds best salesman. He speaks in a specific cadence with fantastic timing on his infliction to grab your attention and not let go. seriously though. go back and rewatch this. rewatch his old ruthless aggression promos. Dont pay attention to the words. pay attention to his body language, his gestures and how the tone of his voice changes. You will never unhear it ever again.

@aaronrumph3291

2 жыл бұрын

It is real easy to make examples because making matches isn't that hard, it is making a whole show of great matches that is hard and creating the right character for the wrestlers in the brand

Funnily enough, this simple philosophy made me get peacock. And what feud made me get it? Cena Vs Reigns for Summerslam 2021. That feud was extremely simple in its booking: The GOAT vs The Tribal Chief. Both are phenomenal performers, and Roman was the best heel the WWE had in years at this point. So putting him against Cena who wanted to humble him was a no brainier. This same philosophy also worked for Seth Rollins vs Edge. And that culminated into one of the most brutal, and best hell in a cell matches I've ever seen.

Man, imagine if Paul Heyman was head of creative, the product would be 10 times better

@ThisIsInfamousJBlack

2 жыл бұрын

He was remember? Vince replaced him on RAW. It's almost like he doesn't want a better mind to out do him.

@mattrank3722

2 жыл бұрын

There is a big difference. He can be head of creative but the problem is that if Vince McMahon doesn’t like what he is writing down for the shows then he has to change it to appease Vince. In WWE it’s all about what Vince wants, not what the fans want or what Paul Heyman would want to do.

@Hyde_Hill

2 жыл бұрын

@@mattrank3722 Yup is why he was better as head of smackdown creative with at the time a stronger brand split giving him more leeway. Smackdown Six times.

@ladistar

2 жыл бұрын

@@mattrank3722 dude is Vince really that much of a micromanager to the point of changing scripts by himself?

@diggusbickus8382

2 жыл бұрын

@@ladistar Yes, didn't you know? He's known for changing the script 5 minutes before the show goes on air, or even in the middle of the show. Vince often changes the creative team's ideas, and he micromanages promos down to the last word too

If Paul Heyman wasn’t so eloquent with words & intelligent, ecw would’ve fell at the start there’s no way it should’ve lasted that long.

I wish someone would go up to Heyman and say, "Here's a billion dollars. Do what you think is right."

@martinfawkes595

2 жыл бұрын

Hopefully he'd start by bringing in an accountant so we don't have another ECW type situation. But yes, he's one of the greatest wresting minds of all time.

@broodingstone958

2 жыл бұрын

That's the problem, Heyman is fine as long as you keep him on a leash and only let him to creative. The second he gets near the $, all is lost.

@zantiquechm3960

Жыл бұрын

@@broodingstone958 But it's been years people grow.

Professor Paul Heyman with another Wrestling masterclass lecture. A TRUE LEGEND

Paul hit it right on the head. It’s very simple. “Who are these people? Why are they fighting? Why should I care so I pay to see it?” You answer that, you got a program that works. Yet WWE adds all these extra things: No! We have to appeal to the kids, too! No, we gotta make a cool pop culture reference so we can get teenagers! No, we gotta appeal to the casuals! No, we gotta make it funny even if it’s not funny! No, we have to push Roman and Charlotte, too, even though they have nothing to do with this match! 🤦‍♂️ The results are a shitshow. Feuds that are lackluster, young stars that fall through the cracks, endless rematches with no payoff, and a show that is perfectly missable, which leads to declining ratings and quality. They get lost in the entertainment part and stop being entertaining as a result.

@strictlywrestlingreviews6758

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah but they've proven time and time again whether its cuz they're at the top or cuz its them but they can literally do everything wrong.... EVERYTHING but people will still pay attention, people will still pay money, people will still watch them and only them its kinda slowly changing but not really only time will tell

@M8cool

2 жыл бұрын

I guess that whole paragraph was answering the final and most important question. WWE need the money. There are parts of their target audience that would like to see the PG stuff. Then they have the shareholders / board of directors to please - commercially. Then you have Vince losing his noodle time and again. Then you have backstage politics to deal with. It's awfully simple to put it into three questions. I would consider it as three themes to cover. Beneath these three themes are so many different elements to get right. And make no mistake, WWE ARE screwing the pooch with their booking/scripts over the past years, but don't simplify it to a one-word-answer like situation. Cash is king always.

@steepdeej

2 жыл бұрын

Okay but WWE can be hella funny sometimes though

@michaelscott-joynt3215

2 жыл бұрын

While the formula is simple, the problems are complicated. Too much writing, too much talk, too much silly crap, too many pretty boys and diva girls. Talent from the 70s and 80s looked rough; a bit crazy, just enough to look capable of violence, not afraid to get ugly. Now it's like Instagram and KZread are having a fight. Social media sucks, but roll with it. Have them fight there and actually get banned. Keep heels and faces separate, since they don't like each other. Make people believe in something.

@riq.o

2 жыл бұрын

Aew does have its fair share of problems too

I can hear Paul talk about anything for hours. He is the best 🔥🔥🔥

For the record he perfectly described Sabu vs Taz at ECW barley legal and yes that match was awesome

This is a very good philosophy and one that's simple to understand, but I have just one problem with it: the overexposure of today's wrestling. Between WWE and AEW you have 4 shows a week and a pay-per-view (or two) per month! Thing is, you can have a weekly show where storylines are developed, but the issue is that the product is moving forward so fast that I have no time to care about the next feud of Main Eventer X or the feud after that. There so little time to develop good stories and characters in this format. Plus, there is no down time where I can digest these storylines and let them sink in, because immediately the next one has started. Having time gaps between PPVs or shows would greatly help not just the freshness of the stories, but also help with the gestation of the next storylines in the writers' and bookers' rooms. This is a good reason why Lesnar is so succesful. You don't see him go to every Raw and Smackdown or have a match at every PPV, and that contributes to the freshness of the character.

@fjbalangon9787

2 жыл бұрын

This is true, as a wrestling fan myself it's hard to catch up on shows recently with the way wrestling is being presented as of now. For example in AEW, one month is enough to say that you missed everything and you had to catch those missed episodes just to reach the current context for the show. Then you have NJPW, Impact, WWE etc, it feels like a choir/task to do nowadays.

@coolmanguyjohnny

2 жыл бұрын

I understand what you guys are saying, but I feel like overexposure is something that has to be resolved by the viewer, not the individual companies. If you spend your time trying to watch all the shows all the time, that just adds unnecessary stress that can't be resolved by anyone but yourselves. WWE/AEW aren't going to care if you watch all four programs each week, but doing so makes it more difficult to enjoy for yourself personally. Unless you REALLY love wrestling and actively want this much in your life, I'd say to only watch one or two programs a week. It's more beneficial for you, and it can be a clever way to tell a company you aren't happy with their product if you feel that way. For instance, I only watch Dynamite and Rampage, because trying to watch Raw, NXT, 205 Live, NXT UK, and SmackDown as well is simply too much work, and causes this hobby that I enjoy to turn into work. It's not worth it. So I just digest the content and stories that I can at a healthy and reasonable pace. Simply put, don't watch all of it, as you're the only one who can solve this overexposure problem.

@LordJuzzie

2 жыл бұрын

There are too many wrestlers, too many titles, too many brands especially for WWE.

@aaronrumph3291

2 жыл бұрын

No this is purely a WWE problem here is the stats for the last 5 years 2021: 5 months with 2 PPVs in them 2020: 2 months with 3 PPVs and 5 with 2 PPVs 2019: 1 month with 4 PPVs, 4 months with 3 PPvs, and 4 months with 2 PPVs 2018: 2 months with 4 PPVs, 1 month with 3 PPVs, and 4 months with 2 PPVs 2017: 1 month with 4 PPVs, 2 months with 3 PPVs, and 6 months with 2 PPVs If you add AEW to the mix 2019: 5 PPV total: make May into 2 Shows between them, 4 Shows in June between them, 4 shows in July between them, 4 shows in August between them, and 3 shows in November between them 2020: 4 PPV total: 3 shows in February between them, 2 shows in May between them, 2 shows in September between them, and 2 shows in November between them 2021: 4 PPV total: 2 shows in March between them, 2 shows in May between them, 2 shows in September, and 2 Shows in November Edit: it is 5 shows a week as WWE has 3 shows and AEW has 1 show until September when they had 2 shows

@btf_flotsam478

2 жыл бұрын

Easy solution: fill a niche. With Chikara gone there's a gap in the market for an extremely kid-friendly product, or you could go the DDT route and make a comedy-based show.

I feel like with the growing popularity of MMA, people understand a lot more what a real fight should look like. Wrestling should start to look more like MMA. With the extra drama mixed in where it fits.

I love listening to paul he is a phenomenal communicator and has such a vast knowledge of the business side of wrestling.. pretty cool

Paul heyman just described a multi-million dollar business within four minutes. I bet many wrestling promoters watch this video as a tutorial to run their wrestling comapny.

lol Paul in this edit just gave away entertainment as a whole. I love this man and what he has done. I used to hate this man for what he has done. BUT I LOVE THIS MAN! hahaha cheers fam!

fast forward, smackdown have main eventer A. Roman and B. Brock, but the problem is they dont have yet the establish Co-main eventer A and B (might be Drew once he move forward with happy corbin)

Paul is a genius, he's like a business man selling something to you. What he said is basically just like Economics.

More Heyman is never a bad thing.

thought the video was gonna end at 15 seconds ‘cause he summed it all up right there!

Me and that one guy popped for Murdoch.

As a kid i hated him. Now i see him as a living legend.

@k999999

2 жыл бұрын

you will hate him cos he push every buttons especially towards a casual fan however you will appreciate all his work if you are a hardcore die hard fan

@amakky1989

2 жыл бұрын

That’s because you were supposed to hate him

@ladistar

2 жыл бұрын

@@k999999 damn so true hahaha

Paul just put on a Masterclass!

I want to watch that match now

2:20 made me laugh so hard I had tears streaming down my cheek hahaha

I don't even watch Wrestling anymore. But I'll always listen to Paul talk.

Paul has such a solid understanding of the business.

Paul Heyman has the mind Vince McMahon wants us to believe he has!

We feel like we've seen every a million variations of every major plot in fiction in the business. Especially because they stick so rigidly to heel vs face. I would love to see more of "Which good guy can beat the other clean, and will one bend or break rules to do it?" or "Which bad guy can out bad guy the other, a war of escalation." There are so many talents who I just want to see take on someone else not for a title or random drama, but to just go "Hey, I've never challenged you before. Lets go."

@baronroaster404

2 жыл бұрын

Then watch AEW

@sotakoira1390

2 жыл бұрын

While the heel vs face dynamic has changed and become less obvious, I think you still need crowd support to get people invested. You can't totally disregard. Thou even a heel can be over and popular nowadays. But two heels who people want to see lose and wont support doesn't make a match people get invested in. But you can definitely have MJF (who is popular while heel) go against Danielson who is also a heel and people want to see who wins. You could have Darby Allin take on Hangman and people would be interested. Andrade vs Ethan Page, who cares (Like it'd be good wrestling, but I wouldn't be invested in that). Sorry can't make WWE comparison accurately as Im not informed enough in the current situation. Maybe like having JBL vs HHH for the championship insted of Cena, not very interesting feud on paper.

@tehfawkinman

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, heel vs heel. "Holy shit, Heel A is wrestling Heel B! Well, I don't like either one of these assholes, so *click*!" Great fuckin booking idea, right there! 👍

@baronroaster404

2 жыл бұрын

@@tehfawkinman you realise people like Heels right? They're the bad guys in the way Darth Vader is the bad guy.

@tehfawkinman

2 жыл бұрын

@@baronroaster404 Did.....did you really just "Wrestling is fake" me? Holy fuck, you may be on to something, buddy! See, I thought something was fishy about people getting punched in the face, yet not bleeding, not even a black eye! I always thought it was weird how the dumbass on the outside would catch the diving tool EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. I never woulda put the pieces together if it weren't for you. Thank you, friend ❤️

He’s right: wrestling isn’t as complicated as people write/think it out to be.

When he said, every Part of your show means something I couldn't help but think of AEW I mean seriously I think or Monday night raw or smackdown and go who do I care to see? And I can't name anyone other then AJ styles, every week in AEW every segment is awesome they have multiple factions that all get huge pops it just feels like a real genuine show compared to raw which is a bummer.

@fjbalangon9787

2 жыл бұрын

AEW really does apply this main event-sub main event tho

paul is such a great man for this business and he proved it when he was the head of ecw it was an indie show that made the WWE afriad so the bought it and paul accepted because at that time WWE didn't suck but if ECW was created today by paul he wouldn't sell it because WWE wouldn't know how to handle the talents

@avarice25

2 жыл бұрын

ECW was also in over a million dollars in debt when Paulie sold. He stopped paying wrestlers to balance the checkbook for the month. If you're going to praise him, don't sugarcoat and say he is infallible.

@katakurithecalamity9840

2 жыл бұрын

@@avarice25 i am not saying that but what i am saying is that paul made something really good out of a indie show in a time that WWE was dominating the industry and to make my point valid there were many indie shows that was doing bad and were in debt but ECW was bought by the WWE because it had more than potential

That's Brock Lesnar vs Roman Reigns, and that's why the Bloodline saga is the best story told in professional wrestling in a while, definitely in WWE. Paul Heyman is a freaking genius.

Thanks for the explanation. Oss

Pual Heyman the wrestling genius 🐐🐐🐐

This is why Paul Heyman is a genius when it comes to wrestling. I can listen to him talk all day.

That Tapout thing was pretty close to rusev vs cena for the US title

And that right there ladies and gentlemen is exactly why Paul Heyman is the greatest manager / mic talent in wrestling

AEW should try to sign Paul Heyman

@ericdaniels86ed

2 жыл бұрын

He will never go to AEW he’s a WWE Lifer

@caryryan9494

2 жыл бұрын

@@ericdaniels86ed I wouldn't count on that, after all he has great friends in AEW like Paul Wight, Tazz, CM Punk, etc, once Brock Lesnar decides to leave WWE for good, noone can predict what Heyman is going to do. I wouldn't count on him being an advocate/wise man/on screen personality for AEW, but he can provide a bunch of wisdom in to the AEW product

@miguelgodinhomatias3002

2 жыл бұрын

@@ericdaniels86ed Like when he was a ECW Lifer and he would never go to WWF?

@superdemonboy

2 жыл бұрын

Lol, we've already had bigger WWE "lifers" than Heyman jump ship. Dude's a creative genius. Don't be surprised if he winds up somewhere that allows and ENCOURAGES him to be as creative as he wants to be.

@aaronrumph3291

2 жыл бұрын

@@miguelgodinhomatias3002 If he is an ECW lifer and WWE owns ECW doesn't that mean by default he is always a WWE lifer. Also Heyman has always loved Vince he just hated Bischoff.

Why this Man is never given the creative freedom and trust to improve WWE, I'll never know. His mind is for the people. He still emerse himself with the fans where as Vince does not.

@Vietmac1993

2 жыл бұрын

Because Vince McMahon’s ego won’t allow it

@Jukeboxster

Жыл бұрын

paul is a genius, but if you're always telling others how well you understand things and how poorly they do, it can rub them the wrong way. This is a Jim Ross take by the way, and it's that Paul Heyman knows how smart he is and he lets people around him know it, same with jim cornette. Success isn't just about what you know, it's about how you get along with others.

What Paul spoke of is what def is missing in the wwe. They touch in 1 or 2 of those parts, and sometimes they even touch all 3. But most of the time I notice the wwe misses the “why should i care” and I agree. Storylines don’t need to be a whole complicated story line. Also with as big of a roster as they have, they should be able to come up with matches that are pretty compelling 90% of the time. I know it’s not easy to invest in multiple story lines but they have enough talent that people love to really mix it up and they sometimes just don’t

He put it well 👏

Amen 🙏🙏💯🔥💯🔥I'm currently doing Wrestling GM on mobile 📱

Basic elements of storytelling. Whether it's a book, movie, TV series or wrestling show.

Paul Heyman should get another promotion or at least his own show on WWE because this is so true TNA and AEW all have nothing but Main eveners and only really wrestle like seven of them

Brilliant

0:37 This really reminds me of the Attitude Era. At its height almost everyone on the roster had something going on.

There you go - Marketing 101 from the guy who defines doing it.

This philosophy was in line with my idea that Strowman should have had a title fight with Bobby lashley, at a certain time given that they were building up Lashley’s full Nelson as this submission no man could endeavor. What would have happened if lashley put Strowman in a full Nelson for the title, would Strowman tap or would be had turn the tables, been the first to get out of the submission and defeat Lashley for the title?

Paul Heyman is my new therapist.

Crazy thinking

I think you could apply this to booking for about any combat sport. I think it would be cool to see Dana White and Paul Heyman chat lol

Genius.

With his first points, he’s basically describing what AEW is currently doing.

@VishtheFish101

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly what I was thinking. Kenny, Jericho, Moxley, Page, Danielson, Punk, MJF, Cole, Young Buck, FTR, Lucha Bros, Jungle Boy, and even more guy could easily be in the mainevent slot any given night and no one would bat an eye. Crazy how everyone feels like a big deal in AEW and so few guys besides Roman, Brock, Bobby, and maybe Seth and Edge feel like a big deal in WWE.

@mattitude2471

2 жыл бұрын

@@VishtheFish101 so well said! Almost every guy in AEW feels special to where every match is interesting, regardless of titles.

Smartest man in the business.

Paul just described in the first minute the logic he used when making the Smackdown 6.

"Don't complicate things," said the man who booked the Raven saga with it's Lord of the Rings sized cast. "Sure, Jan," I replied, unsure why everyone was applauding his statement.

If WWE put on that can't-miss undefeated vs. undefeated match that Paul described...it would end in a BS non-finish, and then they'd wrestle 7 more times until those two guys had each been beaten at least twice and weren't special anymore.

RAW hasn't been watchable since Heyman was removed from the executive producer role. Not sure how much if any control he has on SD but it's not a coincidence SD has become the A show since Roman came back and Heyman joined with him. It's crazy how complicated WWE makes their booking when Heyman just broke it down in simple terms. Triple H once said that everything in life evolves, adapt or perish, don't let evolution pass you by or something to that effect. For Vince, Bruce, Big Johnny and others in WWE, the evolution of the business has passed them by and WWE is perishing because of it. Triple H adapted and made the original NXT into a household name. Hunter knew where wrestling was heading and then Vince took that away because he's so out of touch. There's a reason a bunch of fans can easily make fantasy booking videos because they apply the simple logic Heyman talks about and boom..... Wrestling.

Honestly, I don't know what percentage of Paul Heyman is BS and what percentage is substance, but I could listen to him talk all day.

Paul gets it that’s why he’s so great !

Does Paul have a podcast? That I'd pay to listen to.

Best way to bring wrestling back to popularity is to cut out all the mark bs. Focus on the storylines and characters rather than the flippy kick workrate bs that the indie scene has brought into wrestling.

@awesomeak9739

2 жыл бұрын

Facts

_wise man_

Heyman sure knows how to talk without saying a lot

Because of him, Brock and Roman feud is still interesting to this day!

If Paul Heyman ran WWE, survivor series would be like the entire Manga series of death note and I fucking love it

I feel like this is one thing AEW is doing right. They understand you don't have to have your main eventers too far over your other talent. Just enough to be legit. The main eventer in the middle of a big story will probably beat a random unrelated wrestler, but having a good match doesn't hurt the big name and in some ways makes him look strong because he pushed through a decent opponent. Meanwhile, even in loss the lower card guy looks good despite his best efforts failing because he could hang with and challenge a big deal guy. Meanwhile WWE too often just has their big deal dudes dominate people. Which nobody gains from. Not even the big name because all he did was beat up a guy that looks weak.

@jtg1972

2 жыл бұрын

You summed that up perfectly.

@aaronrumph3291

2 жыл бұрын

Yes and no, as AEW is all about wrestlers having the freedom to build their own stories you get a mixed bag with the stars like MJF, Kingston, Punk, and Danielson creating intriguing storylines mixed with stars that make hit and miss storylines

There is one question Paul leaves unanswered, and I suspect it has a simple answer. "What tone should the match/feud have? Should it be comedy, kid-friendly, violent garbage stuff or just plain quality wrestling?" I suspect that you do what the audience wants, and you do it consistently until you've filled the niche and/or the niche isn't big enough to keep you in business.

It took like four minutes. And now I really want to see headlock guy vs escape guy

Couldn't Heyman scream this in Vince's face 25 times a day so it fucking sticks and he finally gets how Wrestling works?

Paul's message to Vince is those 3 simple items

The issue is with that third question with the two fighters...in today's WWE NEITHER wins it's going to be a screwy schmozz finish so neither guy gets over! A good way to do it if you don't want the question answered in one match is to have someone, whoever you choose to be the heel, cheat! Then you have a reason to keep putting them together. Then remember the best heels are the ones that can be justified. "There's only two types of people at the end of a match, the winner, and the looser. That's it. How you get to that point is irrelevant. I win. Period." Anyway this went odd places. Sorry for the ramble.

Get Vince away from the office, put Heyman in office. Win.

@Yamah12a

2 жыл бұрын

Or Jim Cornette.

the character from heels tv show (played by stephen amell) could learn from this video.

Paul would cause chaos to WWE if he goes AEW. Guys creative ability is great

He prb be great head writer tbh

They could easily book wrestlers into divisions like so World Title Contenders Roman, Drew, Brock, Cody Rhodes, Bobby Lashley, Seth Rollins, AJ Styles, Randy Orton, Finn Balor, Kevin Owens, Nakamura, Edge, Big E, Sheamus, Kingston, & The Fiend (should he return) Intercontinental Title Contenders (Sparsely have IC Contenders in World Title scene when built right) Günther, Ziggler, Miz, Riddle, Corbin, Theory, Roode, Priest, Mysterio, Ezekiel, Shelton, Montez, Jinder, Sami Zayn, Xavier Woods, Ricochet European Title (Division acts like a bridge between IC & US contenders) Drew, Sheamus, Gunther, Holland, Pete Dunn, Ludwig, Dijokovic, Gable, Mahaan, IC and US Contenders US Title Contenders Ciampa, Tazawa, Cedric, Ali, Gargano, Dominic, Riddick Moss, Reggie, Logan Paul, R-Truth, Dawkins, Otis, Angel, Humberto, Usos, War Raiders, mMm Tag Team Titles DIY, Usos, mMm, Los Latharios, Street Profits, Alpha Academy, the Lads, War Raiders, Imperium, New Day, Judgement Day, the Mysterios, RK-Bro Wrestlers basically interact with their set divisions but can also interact with others providing a story calls for it.

Both Tony Khan and Vince McMahon need to see this

Vince should really hire this guy. He seems smart

Heyman is the one guy in WWE who gets it and never lost it

When Paul Heyman talks about having a undefeated guy who escapes submission holds vs a undefeated guy who taps everyone out it reminded me of my childhood i had some Marvel toys and used them has Pro Wrestlers since i didn't have any Pro Wrestlers and so Beast who fought like Kane went 100-0 and The Punisher who fought like Edge went 100-0 so i said let's do The Punisher vs Beast which i believe two draws The Punisher won

@dwyane23

2 жыл бұрын

Playing with toys has a kid is normal but i remember that build up i was so pumped up and excited thinking on who could win cause when i would play with toys i wouldn't go ok this person wins i would just choose who won on the fly it just so happen both The Punisher & Beast won 100 matches never being pinned or submitted which was real they really did win 100 matches and i just so happen to go i need to see who is the best of the best and pitted them against one another now to everyone not me i would say man Beast vs The Punisher best match ever you'd go wait what but to me it is one of the best matches ever cause it's undefeated vs undefeated only 1 Undisputed Undefeated Punishing Beast remained and his name was The Punisher

He's right.WWE overcomplicates pro wrestling.

@LooseCannonCovers

2 жыл бұрын

Do you mean "Sports Entertainment"... since its WWE?

@scotthiebler2414

2 жыл бұрын

@@LooseCannonCovers WWE shouldn't be this hard to book.

@LooseCannonCovers

2 жыл бұрын

@@scotthiebler2414 can't they go back to attitude era booking?

@scotthiebler2414

2 жыл бұрын

@@LooseCannonCovers They could if they wanted to.

@-Alpeter

2 жыл бұрын

@@scotthiebler2414 1 problem the kids and girls that sales more money. So in order for that to change the sales have to change.

I'd say at least 10-15 more years of Lesnar and reigns as champion. Really boosts excitement.

At least within the WWE, people over-complicating it has a lot to do with writers replacing bookers, and shareholder needs replacing fan desire.

The problem with Heyman's second example of the undefeated submissions escapist vs the undefeated armbar specialist is that whoever loses, his stock will plummet instantly. Unless there is another attractive layer to the character to fall back onto once he loses that 'undefeated' title and is portrayed to be a lesser version of the 'superior undefeated wrestler', the guy's career takes an unfortunate downfall.

@notoriousmigz2427

7 ай бұрын

Heyman described the main hook of the story, but those characters developing that main part of their rep overtime can also develop other things which they fall back on after the fact, hence why long term booking is a thing.

@EvilGeniusRANIK

7 ай бұрын

@@notoriousmigz2427 Yes but long term booking is an extremely rare feature in this industry and its even more rarer for the people that were built as 'undefeated'. Only good examples were Taker, Kane and Brock. But there's a crap ton of victims with the same 'undefeated' bookings. Umaga Kozlov Sylvester Terkay Rusev Lars Sullivan Omos Commander Azeez Bo Dallas Samoa Joe and many many more.

And vince looks at it as "they'll love who we want them to."

Can someone please send this clip to Tony Kahn?!! That way, he’ll get a better understanding on how to book!!