The “I can fix her” playthrough

@davidgodfrey9780

3 ай бұрын

I really can though

@HedlessChickn

3 ай бұрын

The, "I can't read so I'll have AI do it" playthrough video. Ugh.

@danlt1497

2 ай бұрын

Shadowheart fits too... and too well.

@Xxsorafan

2 ай бұрын

That playthrough is pretty much accurate for all companions other than wyll and karlach 😂

@kruszewskimikoaj1200

8 күн бұрын

Nah, she doesn't want to be fixed.

Wow, I never thought to disguise myself as a Drow to enter the camp. Will be doing that next playthrough. Thanks.

@MrGeeBee34

4 ай бұрын

Glad I could help!

@pur3chao56

2 күн бұрын

Me who played as a Drow my first playthrough and forgot disguise self is a thing: Oh...

I just tested this method, and yes, it works perfectly. Just make sure your save was started from patch 6.

@MrGeeBee34

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing. Although my older saves appear to work too.

@diegobatistabernardes5466

4 ай бұрын

@@MrGeeBee34 After testing and seeing that she is in the Moon Towers and reloading the save to where she is knocked out, can I loot her or not?

@leaf241

4 ай бұрын

@@diegobatistabernardes5466I think it's ok to loot her

Ill write a summary of what to do here basically a TLDW (this guide is mainly for honor mode players since we cant save scum) ACT 1--- get marked/or not get the witch branding leader in a room and close the door silence and kill ignore razlin (starting a fight with him aggros the entire camp) go to minthara speak to minthara lure her to druid grove (new addition to patch 6) *rescue helsin first before returning to grove ask him how can i help/ask him to meet at the grove) (mandem straight up bounces) ------------------LONG REST------------------- fast travel to grove get mistaken for bloody goblins prep the field (oil/smoke barrels alchemist fire/grease bottles) blow horn minthara cutscene select option 2 (grove is under my protection) keep minthara last lady standing toggle non lethal attack passive AND MELEE ATTACK get her lyre (take her armor and garments and something magical happens in act 2 talk to halsin and punish sifisiv lady (kagha) long rest party get to act 2 basically either by the back of goblin camp/creche under dark route is risky since you have to navigate there WITHOUT kassandra's fight so please do yourself a favor complete underdark stuff and go by the creche ACT 2------ go by the creche entrance meet spider boy by playing the lyre minthara had kill harpers during ambush get to moonrise and save her ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- now this is a theory where it can honestly waste your time but im doing it follow act 1 guide up till choosing how to get to the shadow cursed lands do what you want and go to the underdark/grymforge/shadow cursed lands go do kassandra's fight join the harpers the whole 9 yards pixie moonrise minthara's great escape from jail

@mr.riddler2185

3 ай бұрын

you indeed get different dialogue with saving Sazza just say you will get it done and you will get your reward

@tridonstrident6785

3 ай бұрын

Did that work?

@bmbrowns1778

3 ай бұрын

Do you have to kill the harpers? Or do you just kill them because it's the quickest way to see of Minthara is still alive?

@mr.riddler2185

3 ай бұрын

@@tridonstrident6785 yeah prancing around with minty in the cursed lands

@mr.riddler2185

3 ай бұрын

@@bmbrowns1778 honestly it doesnt matter if you side with spider boy or harpers as long u get to the prison she'll be there

"Easier." Still annoyingly convoluted. Minthara is a super interesting character that's in high demand. I wish they would make it still more straightforward.

@MrGeeBee34

4 ай бұрын

True! Haha. I don't know how though. The original intention was that she'll only join evil characters and can't be recruited until Act 2 due to the game's storyline.

@tiamatt44

4 ай бұрын

@@MrGeeBee34 I think just knocking her out instead of killing her at any point before the party being the only requirement would be easiest way. Story wise this doesn't affect anything else the player would do afterwards since they're eventually going to show up in Moonrise Towers anyway. So it'd be a simple case of 1. If she's alive she's there or 2. If she's dead she's not Great video btw, will be sure to watch it again for my next playthroughs.

@LadyAmalthea0615

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, I wish there was a way when you meet her to make her question her allegiance to the Absolute like maybe showing her what happened to you on the Nautiloid through the tadpole. She could even remain suspicious of you at first but desire to find out if she's been led astray and after Moonrise see that you were right and offer to join you permanently to take down those who decieved her. They could even give her a companion quest to end the person who infected and indoctrinated her. Recruiting her doesn't really change the endings of the story except for side things like romance anyway. In the main quest whether you play a good or bad Tav you still have to take out the 3 chosen regardless and choose what to do about the big bad.

@thedarkness75

3 ай бұрын

@@MrGeeBee34 I know people don’t like a game holding their hands but in this case maybe one of your companions gives you a verbal cue something like Karlach or someone saying how she might prove valuable later and maybe we should subdue her instead of killing her… Just a hunch she has or something, Followed by the nonlethal KO pop-up. It then becomes the players choice if they want to kill her or not

@ChiaroscuroxX

3 ай бұрын

Bro this has nothing on when I tried to romance the Wenduag in Pathfinder. But its still super annoying not knowing if you're on the right path til act 2

Hell yeah. I’m doing a “best endings for every recruitable character possible” run next, good to know it’s been made easier

"Sure, Zevlor, 'dead.' Whatever you say..." Edit: When I feel bad about making sure Halsin is the only one in camp for Orin to kidnap, I remember him strutting in after the fighting was over...

@MrGeeBee34

4 ай бұрын

It seemed as though he hid until it was safe to come out. lol

@chillax319

Ай бұрын

@@MrGeeBee34 It's a small thing but I'd wish that in this scenario he'd come bloodied and with missing hp saying something akin to: "I stayed at the back and dealt with some of their reinforcements while you defended the main gate". As he is know it's like he was hiding and feels hillarious.

I’m in currently in act 2 I recruited her now Cerys keeps showing up in my fights I have no idea how to fix this I’m on Xbox with no mods

I did this the same but in different order the only thing I did different was I save halsin first befor talking to minthara is that okay?

stupid question. i think i missed it, but at the end you're just checking to see if minthara will be there right? and then you just reload your previous save?

Yeah funny thing is I knocked out Minthara, I see her in Moonrise tower in front of Ketheric, but when I enter the dialog the cut scene is if Minthara was killed.

@Deadafbruh

3 ай бұрын

This right here. It's almost as if the game still recognizes her being alive, but one of the values in the codes is set to 0 when it comes to dialogs and conversations involving her. I'm assuming the developers fixed the issue of the game not recognizing her as dead when you knock her out, preventing many from accomplishing the main Act 1 quest. So they lazily changed that value and didn't bother to look into the others regarding her being alive.

There is no need to attack the Grove. You can do the following, but the important part is - do not use long rest while cleaning up the goblin camp, otherwise Minthara will be dead in Act 2 1) destroy the flying orb by pushing it into abyss 2) knock down Minthara with non-lethal attack 3) Free Halsin and Kill everyone else. Including all guys outside (I always did. Maybe it is not neccessary). Go away from the goblin camp, talk to Halsin and do a long rest. Do not return to goblin camp again. 4) Save Minthara in Act 2 If you want to romance her: 1) Agree with her in dialogs during act 2 to improve the reputation 2) Start a romance in the beginning of Act 3, when she will directly ask you about it. This way you can romance anyone else to not be bored in Act 1 and 2 plus Minthara in Act 3, but you will have to break your first relationship in the beginning of Act 3. This will result in quite cold relations with the first companion, but they won't leave your party. Also there is supposed to be a romance scene with Minthara in Act 3, but it's not finished. There is literally a dialog, when she says "I will come to you tonight" and then nothing happens. Not to mention a lot of delusional Minthara comments about Act 3 events while you're still in Act 2. Larian should really fix this

@Michael5029

3 күн бұрын

how is fighting the whole gob camp by yourself better than the grove raid with allies?

@daviduarte1031

2 күн бұрын

Halsin is in goblin camp, how can i talk to him without returning there?

@BUXAU

Күн бұрын

​@@daviduarte1031 Kill 3 goblin leaders and talk to him. Before you exit the main building and continue fight outside. He should leave after that and will be available in the grove

@BUXAU

Күн бұрын

@@Michael5029 Not everyone wants to expose the grove location

But when did you kill Dror Ragzlin to complete the quest? or was he part of the attack on the grove and was killed there?

@MrGeeBee34

3 ай бұрын

I didn't kill Dror in this video but you can always go back for him. Repelling the attack on the grove will complete the quest even if he's still alive.

The method I use to get to Moonrise quickly is to use the Grymforge entrance, equip a torch, ungroup from my party and then use an invisibility potion to avoid the Harper ambush. Run down to the spot where you rescue Rolan (It's near a broken bridge that leads to the Moonrise Docks). Use the Fly spell via potion or scroll and then run into the heavy shadowcurse barrier and you'll be forced into turn-based mode. Dash and Fly over the bridge towards the light where the guard is posted. Takes about 2 minutes and you don't need a moonlantern.

Do you have to kill the Harpers or can you turn on the drider and/or find the Harpers first to get Isobel’s blessing.. THEN go to Moonrise?

@MrGeeBee34

3 ай бұрын

You can side with the Harpers, yes. I killed them in the vid because I wanted to reach the towers quickly.

I usually knock her out at the goblin camp and later find her at Moonrise. Although I have to try fighting her at the grove next.

@MrGeeBee34

3 ай бұрын

Actually that's a much easier way of doing it. I'm only showing this method because it's added with patch 6.

@thedarkness75

3 ай бұрын

It’s actually easier at the Grove, there are so many things that can go wrong back at the goblin camp to make you not get her at the Grove, all you have to do is non lethally KO her and it’s guaranteed I guess the only concern is one of the tieflings accidentally killing her but I’ve tried it four times and have never had that happen

@RambleBeard

2 ай бұрын

I did it this way too but she was still at the Grove ready to fight after I took a long rest completely naked lol

@Ezchkn

Ай бұрын

Yeah per example, i did everything at the goblin camp and failed to see her at Moonrise Tower

@thedarkness75

Ай бұрын

@@RambleBeard she is flagged in the “kill the goblin leaders” quest and the game failed to properly remove her. Did you kill the other two? If not, she won’t be removed from that quest until you do. Convince her to join you at the Grove, long rest so she’s placed there and removed from the goblin camp, Kill the other two then go to the Grove, betray her and KO her. Even though she’s knocked out she’s considered dead for the quest purposes. The easiest way to tell if that quest is still active is talking to Halsin, basically tells you you need to kill them before he can do anything else

18:51 You don't have to kill harpers. You can convince the drider to give you the lantern.

Are Minthara and Halsin at the same time at the camp? Can I recruite both ?

@finrodfelagund1052

2 ай бұрын

Yes

Can I go back to the creche and do its content after recruiting Minthara at the tower?

@MrGeeBee34

4 ай бұрын

Yes, but Minthara won't follow you there. She'll say she'll remain in the shadow cursed lands.

@diggintiger177

2 ай бұрын

@@MrGeeBee34 Are you sure she cannot leave the shadow cursed lands? Is there no way to get the "awakened" permanent buff for minthara then?

@cerisedaemon

20 күн бұрын

@@MrGeeBee34 Oh bless, I was afraid I would have to sacrifice the legendary weapon at the creche. Thank you for the guide!

The route of doing it in the goblin camp works as well. I have never had any issues with that method. Thing is with doing it at the grove you have to make sure all the Tieflings live for them to show up later. I usually attack the floating eye to instigate the fight. To do that you can talk to Minthara before just don't do it with Saza or tell her you will help or tell her the grove location. I usually deal with Minthara first if my avatar is an elf as the potion to get knocked out by the priestess doesn't work on elves and it starts a fight that will piss off the hafling vendor just outside her room. I usually leave her for last and use smoke powder barrels on Razgolin. On Balanced 3 is enough to outright kill him. Just pass the mindflayer questioning scene. If you manage to be asking the questions yourself, you can deflect around questioning who killed it to the very last question. He will be upset he didn't get his answers but will not attack you. Once he sits in his throne you can place a barrel to his right and left and one in front of him and then use a fire arrow or fire spell to touch it off. From a safe distance of course. A good vantage point is the raised balcony to his right.

What happens it instead of killing gut directly i triggered the scene where i get convicted?

@MrGeeBee34

Ай бұрын

Nearby enemies will join the fight but you can continue normally after defeating them.

Works like a charm, thank you!

@MrGeeBee34

27 күн бұрын

Great to hear!

Even on good playthrough I think luring goblins to the emerald grove is much more climactic than just killing all leaders in sanctum.

Do you have to kill the harpers for this to work?

@MrGeeBee34

2 ай бұрын

No. I killed them in the vid to get to the tower quickly.

Do you need to kill priestess gut? Or can you just knock her out during the raid?

@MrGeeBee34

27 күн бұрын

Yup. It also works if you KO priestess gut.

I wonder if being a half drow counts

mannn tried it in my evil honor run. minthara is left. bout to knock her but all my comanions and me missed. and zevlor just sniped her and killed her. too bad

She's knocked out properly but disappears the moment I get the killing blow on Dror Ragzlin and the "temp hostile" status is removed from everyone.

@finrodfelagund1052

20 күн бұрын

She don't need to be temporarily hostile anymore. A simple KO is now enough. As Long she is with 1 HP on the Ground

I bugged the game because i eliminated all the goblins and druids. It wouldn't let me talk to Zevlor or Halsin. So even when i saved all the refugees they all still died somehow.

@MrGeeBee34

4 ай бұрын

I think the tieflings will still be attacked in Act 2 regardless of which path you took.

@talimancern7724

4 ай бұрын

@MrGeeBee34 I mean, all of them are gone, even dammon, I saved them from the druid attack. But they didn't show up at last light inn.

Grazie

I did the old method by attacking Minthara head on. She had the 'temporarily hostile' and she was knocked out (temporarily) but her body went missing after a long rest 😭

@MrGeeBee34

Ай бұрын

That should be fine. KO'ed enemies will wake up after you rest.

@mr.avocadoman9749

Ай бұрын

@@MrGeeBee34 But her body went missing though, what did I di wrong here

Is Halsin still recruitable this way?

@MrGeeBee34

23 күн бұрын

Yes, he is.

Can you do this and save zassa?

@MrGeeBee34

2 ай бұрын

Haven't tried saving Sazza and then raiding the Grove. But saving Sazza and knocking out Minthara in Shattered Sanctum works.

Heard that if you recruit her this way, you can't romance her, is that true? In this run I wanted to do it, but I don't know if is possible :/

@MrGeeBee34

3 ай бұрын

You can properly romance her only if you helped her attack Druid Grove.

@michaparchas5394

Ай бұрын

@@MrGeeBee34 "properly"? what do you mean.

@federicopons5047

Ай бұрын

@@michaparchas5394 With consent

isnt the easier way just to knock her out when shes temporarily hostile in the goblin camp

@MrGeeBee34

4 ай бұрын

Easier in the sense that they fixed most of the bugs that crop up after you KO her. Many viewers have reported that she doesn't show up at Moonrise Towers in their playthroughs prior to patch 6.

@yuripiIIed

4 ай бұрын

@@MrGeeBee34 i think the main issue was just her not being temporarily hostile. the actual bugs still havent been fixed, sadly

@Revanants

3 ай бұрын

@@MrGeeBee34 She either doesn't show up or you get marked with Enemy of Justice going into the gith creche area if you knock out minthara when she's a witness to you killing a goblin guard.

@towelgirl21

3 ай бұрын

​@@Revanantshow could unconscious Minthara snitch on you to the githyanki? I had to fight the goblin camp 2 different times to knock her out properly when she was temporarily hostile. It'll be days before I can get to the creche. If I can't go in, I will go crazy.

Did minthara wake up after long rest or she disappeared?

@MrGeeBee34

2 ай бұрын

She'll disappear when KO'd in Druid Grove. In Shattered Sanctum she'll wake up.

Saving sazza doesnt effect anything does it?

@MrGeeBee34

3 ай бұрын

No, it doesn't.

Instead of disguising one character as a drow to enter the goblin camp safely, can you save Sazza, agree to raid the grove, betray Minthara and then get both of them do appear at Moonrise Towers?

@MrGeeBee34

3 ай бұрын

I've tried this but Sazza wasn't there, only Minthara.

Can you still romance her if you do this method?

@MrGeeBee34

3 ай бұрын

Yes, but the s*x scene only happens when you help attack the Druid Grove.

Im sorry. I never knew you could take on the goblins at the druid fort 😅. I always ambused and killed most of them

@MrGeeBee34

4 ай бұрын

Yup, you can! :)

@02091992able

4 ай бұрын

New stuff added. First it was she had to be temporary hostile. Which is why this did work before as she is hostile. Then they removed that required tag. At one point a way you could see if it worked was to return to the goblin camp and she would still be standing behind her desk in the sanctum. They changed that as well as if you choose to do it in the sanctum after she will not be there. Only her Spider's Lyre probably to safeguard against a situation that the player will be unable to progress to Act 2. Also another way to make the fight a little easier in the sanctum is to do the Underdark area and the other quest in the area before dealing with them. But you have to expose Kagha and stop the ritual or after a point the grove will be sealed and your out of luck. Taking on the goblin camp is far easier if your lvl 5. Knock out Minthara taking on Razgolin using barrelmancy 3 smoke powder barrels is enough on balanced to kill him in the explosion. If you can't sneak into the storeroom through the door by picking the lock, use a ladder to get into the rafters near the Priestess' room and walk the rafter to get into the room, you may have to stack a few crates to be able to jump back up and go back the way you came in. Then take out Gut if you're an elven race as you can't isolate her so easily if you are any other race. The silence trick does work but you have to be able to kill her in the first turn or be able to pin her in place to prevent her from leaving the silence field. But if you are able to do the Underdark content up to the point of going to the fortress you could even have the Susur Blade which does the same thing on striking a target.

She is still knock out in Moonrise wont even started her quest to save her

Not working for me. She's in knockout forever, not temporarily, which means death. Yes, I did melee attack, no magic and followed the guide. I don't know what else to do.

@justspartak

2 ай бұрын

Did you check with Moonrise?

@pear_bandit

2 ай бұрын

@@justspartak Yes I did. It worked for me when I KO'd her in goblin camp, after stealing the scroll in front of her and making Minthara temporary hostile.

@MrGeeBee34

2 ай бұрын

Maybe you're still on an older patch? This is only possible on patch 6 (and higher).

But does this still allow you to romance her?

@mr.riddler2185

4 ай бұрын

recruiting ability will auto unlock the ability to romance until you lost enough rep for any companion in this case minthara to leave

@yuripiIIed

4 ай бұрын

yes you just cant get the act 1 romance scene

@MrGeeBee34

4 ай бұрын

Yes but without the snu snu in act 1.

Minthara IS Mommy 🥵

I'm not killing Harpers...

@JohnSmith-qb9ex

2 ай бұрын

You can go with the usual route, and siding with them. The important part of this guide is the act 1, after you can do what you want before going to Moonrise.

But what about all that lost xp from the under dark

@MrGeeBee34

2 ай бұрын

I skipped those areas in the vid just to show quickly that Minthara is in Moonrise towers, but you don't have too. You can go to both the Underdark and the Creche before heading to the towers.

13:12 when you get the press L1 prompt in MGS3

11:20 VERY IMPORTANT, make sure that you are also using melee (non spell/non ranged) attacks, too. Even with non lethal attacks toggled on, those will still result in a kill.

Shadowheart what are you doing??? Take that shoepolish off!!!

Getting help from Priestess Gut only works if you are anything other than an elven race. Elves are unable to be put to sleep. Your character will just drink the potion and then give her a smug grin. Then she will attack you. She will then call for help which will instigate the halfling merchant down the hall. Someone you do not want to kill. She carries some good merchandise in Act 2 and I think in Act 3 as well.

@Diceux

3 ай бұрын

Did you watch the video? You enter her room and cast silence over her before even talking to her. She can't give you a sleeping potion if her ass is dead.

@mauriciogoncalves3914

3 ай бұрын

In good playthrou because dialogue gut, minthara recruit worked for me, i do a drow, and shap to half elf dialogues choice and minth recruit take impossible with drow. I realize after reload times

@bmbrowns1778

3 ай бұрын

I advise bringing dex characters into that encounter so you all start your turn before she does. Kill her in one turn and she can't call for help

@mantis3669

2 ай бұрын

cast silence on her before attacking, she cant call for help