Painting on 400lb Watercolor Paper - Worth It?
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This is the third video in a series of four - discussing different elements of watercolor paper. In this video, we will be learning about how paper weight can effect how you paint and your final illustration! Enjoy!
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400lb paper? Did you mean *log of wood*
@bibibutten
5 жыл бұрын
Drew Conrad I loved this comment sm . Made my laugh so hard 👍
@tairneanaich
5 жыл бұрын
I legit did that for my HSC major work 😂
@stonecat676
5 жыл бұрын
lmao fr 😂😂
@Woohchaiell
4 жыл бұрын
LOLOL
I don’t do watercolor, so I thought you meant some big ass piece of paper lol
@echorey5501
5 жыл бұрын
I do work with watercolor and I expected a large thick piece of paper
@myteath
5 жыл бұрын
Naw paper in general is measured like that. For example printer paper is about 20lb and standard sketch books for regular drawing is 60lb. It just has to do with how thick the paper is.
@UniqueliAnimationsSN
5 жыл бұрын
Samee lol
@bobbieland6992
5 жыл бұрын
Omg me to
@stevebradley704
5 жыл бұрын
It's measured in lbs per ream.
Ummm anyone else thought by 400lb it was gonna be heavy like 400lb heavy
@Arguing.With.Idiots.
5 жыл бұрын
Not used to lb, here we use gsm.
@KaseyWynne
5 жыл бұрын
400 pounds is the weight of a full ream of that kind of paper.
I use 555lb arches cold pressed for my 40x30inch watercolours and it’s indestructible basically. I can’t go back lol
@christinetempleton7657
5 жыл бұрын
What? Really? 555# paper? Where have I been? Thanks.
@MayBrox
5 жыл бұрын
@@christinetempleton7657 The same place as me, I guess :D At the 300 paper shelf :D
@aoutsky
5 жыл бұрын
Jeez! These papers must be very expensive. I am sure they're worth it though.
@alyr5348
5 жыл бұрын
555?????? Mother of gods that sounds indestructible for sure
@rubixcubii
5 жыл бұрын
That's like a whole freaking tree
I love heavier weight paper. Have you done a comparison between cotton rag paper and wood pulp paper at higher weights? Thanks for the videos.
@thedavegoodman
5 жыл бұрын
Dare Stevens cotton rocks pulp paper for sure
This was so informative, I'm so happy you tested the 4 of these against each other! I normally use 140 lb since I'm not too serious about watercolor, but could see the 300 being great for more finished pieces. Love the artwork you did by the way ^_^
@helpme681
5 жыл бұрын
My gosh, I love your videos!
@le5052
5 жыл бұрын
Omg! APPLEMINTE!! I love you vids!
I think the 400lb paper might be worth for like framed paintings. I'm guessing it's more expensive than the other ones?
@ellenm7806
4 жыл бұрын
FYI- 400# & " elephant size" sheets ARE the most expensive; putting aside certain other unusual handmade ( non-USA) brands as far as I've seen.. :)
I don’t know what’s up with youtube’s search engine algorithm but I’ve been looking for new artist channels for all of 2019 and this is my first time seeing your videos! Exactly what I was looking for. Instant sub.
@WaterColorMisfit
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah! Welcome :D So glad you are here! :D
The 400lbs paper made your painting look magical.
I can't bring myself to pay $22 for a sheet of paper, even if I could get more than one painting from it (how big are those sheets?). But I am eager to try 300 paper because I'm so tired of the buckling!
@lorijones9579
5 жыл бұрын
A sheet of watercolor paper (some papers also come in rolls) is 22" x 30." You get (4) 11' x 15" sheets by cutting it down, which is the largest size I tend to paint on.
@christinetempleton7657
5 жыл бұрын
It's SO worth the money, if you want to go further in your Art. It buckles less and take paint, resist and brushwork better.
@lorijones9579
5 жыл бұрын
@@christinetempleton7657 I also recommend at least trying heavier paper. It's expensive, but Dick Blick lets you buy a single sheet. Try the 300 lb. first and see what you think. It's more affordable than the 400 lb. or higher. I do very well with 140 lb. paper, but it's nice to have something heavier around for more serious projects.
@marenscott298
5 жыл бұрын
Diane o, buy your paper online, Jerrys artarama, Blick art supplies and Cheap Joes sell Arches 300 at approx 13.50 a sheet. I only use Arches 300 lb and I only buy online, if you can buy ten sheets at a time, you save even more
@UzumakiLea
5 жыл бұрын
lol i just bought 30 sheets of 300g paper for 12 euro
havent tried 400 pounds, but im in love with the 300 pounds paper! i work in a lot of layers, washes, and glazes, and my 140 pounds wasn't cutting it even when i taped it down. the 300 pound paper could handle my abuse lol, i need to try the 400 pounds now!
@WaterColorMisfit
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah - some of my painting do fine on 140lb - but I too had to make the switch to 300lb for my more watery painting :)
I can't even imagine painting on 90lb! 140 lb is barely enough for me. I got a 130 bl sketchbook and hate it. Thanks for doing this review.
@WaterColorMisfit
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah - I hate 90lb :P
@jubbapalmer8495
5 жыл бұрын
Works fine for me though I don't use an immense amount of water.
@Ceares
5 жыл бұрын
I like 90 pound for drawings and water soluble pencils/water color markers that I'm not using much water with.
@debmarie55
5 жыл бұрын
I use an old pad of 90# for doing color swatches, since I don't want to waste my good paper. I usually stick with 140# cold press, but I think I'm going to invest in some 300# because I do have a couple of project ideas I'd like to try on it. I may invest in a sheet of 400#, just to test it out, but I'm afraid that I'll be hooked!
Totally worth it. I have a hard time with 140lb. I was given some 400lb paper not knowing at the time, how expensive it is and I got spoiled. I think it's worth the money to buy the heavier paper.
I started out on 300# years ago (when it was cheap). Now I use 140#, but am having to constantly change my techniques to fit the paper, and am never quite happy with the result. (I don't feel as free to explore) I would definitely try the 400# and higher. The one thing I have noticed is the heavier paper absorbs more paint, so one does need to accommodate for that. Thanks for this videoo
You know, Carrie - I just showed my partner the jest of your video and when I first showed him the price of the 300 and 400 lb paper, he said: "That is insane!" BUT . . . I mentioned that decorative painters think nothing of painting on wood surfaces which cost $5 on the cheap end and up to hundreds of dollars - with the medium cost probably around $20-$25 per surface. Why not spend $5 or more on our watercolor paper, which is our surface for this medium? Again - thank you for the lovely video. I shared it with my Facebook painting group.
@WaterColorMisfit
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks :) So glad it helped :D Also - GREAT POINT! :D
Wait? What? They have a 400 paper? Ohhhh please take my money. I got to test this out :D Thank you SO much for this video :D
@christinetempleton7657
5 жыл бұрын
The commenter above says there is 555# watercolor paper. I'm shocked. I want some.
@MayBrox
5 жыл бұрын
@@christinetempleton7657 Amazing. I have to go hunting. Thank you for telling me Christine :D
@driesketels
4 жыл бұрын
They have a 400 a 600 an 800 and much more if you want too :)
I practiced on 140 until I ordered 300. Woohoo, now that made such a difference. I'll have to try 400 now for finished paintings. It looked as if you were painting on the block instead of taped down. The darker edges showed up more on the 400 since it took longer to dry, would you recommend using less solution? I liked it.
@WaterColorMisfit
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah - I think that would have helped :)
Thank you, your videos are really helpful. I paint on 140lb paper, but I recently purchased 100% cotton from arches, and it made a world of difference
@WaterColorMisfit
5 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad! :D
Thank you for making this video, this is such a helpful study. The colors on the 300lb and 400lb drawings look so much smoother, especially compared to the 90lb
All around a lovely video and I've found the same results that you've mentioned here about the 140 lb paper that I'm using to learn water control and pigment load as I learn watercolor. I've not used 400 lb and just purchased a sheet of 300 lb so I will soon give them a test drive. Doing a series of artwork like you've done here is a way that is also good while learning all the fun watercolor techniques.... I love that I've found fun art to play with. Thanks for sharing this nice flowing example... Artfully yours, ~ Karla
Love your videos! Your production value is some of the best I’ve seen from any channel.
Holy Smokes!! Super helpful and love your video work! And, well, the whole thing was quite a learning experience for me. Thank You Miss Fit!
I loved this series, very informative. I like 90 lb for dry media but if I use any wet I definitely go to 140 lb. I've not tried anything higher but I've heard that 300 lb is awesome, now I will have to try it someday.
Amazon accidentally sent me a block of 12x16 300lb Arches paper instead of the 9x12 pad of 140lb I ordered and I've been too scared to use it due to the price. This made me super eager to try it though. Your piece ended up so so so cute. I love the colors that you chose.
@WaterColorMisfit
5 жыл бұрын
TRY IT! :D You'll fall in love :D
@griffinsonjupiter
5 жыл бұрын
Did you have to pay the difference??? Bc if not, that is sooooo lucky!!
@jp8649
5 жыл бұрын
@@griffinsonjupiter They let me keep it!! I've had really terrific luck with Amazon customer service. They also refunded a package I had stolen a year or two ago and resent the complete order for free. Makes me feel bad for not wanting to shop there bc of the company owner.
@debmarie55
5 жыл бұрын
Oh, lucky you! I bet you didn't call them and say "hey, you made a mistake" LOL
Amazing video, thank you for doing the same painting on each and being so thorough with your review!
I'm in love with the piece you created in this video, I'd love to own a print of it! So beautiful
Love the colors you used...thank you for sharing
This was my first video of yours that I've watched and I really enjoyed it! I'm getting more into watercolor and I love it. This was so informative and the illustration is absolutely adorable. I can't wait to check out more of your videos and also to go and check out more of your work on other platforms!
Beautiful colors! I just bought 300 cold press. Trying watercolor in my drawings
I absolutely loved your illustration. Great video. I also was very amused by everybody's comments. Thanks for the giggle.
An ad of yours came up on a video I was watching and I just wanted to say congratulations for getting an ad! ☺️
Beautiful video as well! I still didn't see watercolor paper 600g by arches in our city. Thanks for sharing this! With love from Saint Petersburg Russia ❤️
Oh Carrie. Your art, what can I say. I love this. You are sooooo clever. Thanks for sharing. I am now going to sit here and look at all your other work. Maybe then I might be able to paint. Ha ha. Regards Sherie Rodrigues 🧡
Every time she says “like a dream” take a shot also thanks for the video it was actually really interesting.
Thanks for this! Also aesthetic for DAYS, girl. That’s some eye ASMR ! Makes no sense but you know what I mean 😂
140# paper that’s 100% cotton is way better than 140# normal paper. Maybe you could explore that too. Cool video! Subd for sure 😎
Haven’t tried anything but 140lb paper, but I can easily see when it’s time for me to move up from practicing on 140lb I will be moving to 300lb, it just works so much better. The slight warping is still far less then the warping on 140lb, and obviously far less than the 90lb. Thank you for this!
@WaterColorMisfit
5 жыл бұрын
You are welcome :)
Wow! Thank you! Very informative.
I've always wondered this and am happy you did this video!
@WaterColorMisfit
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah - so glad :D
I LOVE your editing! 😍
I focused more on the project rather than the paper😅 I love the painting!!!!!
Ok...so you just rekindled my desire to try cold press again. Wow! I didn't know there were so many options and I love that the latter two did not really warp. Thanks!
300+ is all I use. It’s worth not having to stretch and bind it. And it’s way more durable. No buckling at all if you get high grade arches or something. It’s worth the 45$ a sheet.
I didn’t even know there was heavier watercolor paper beyond 140. Knowing now that there’s thicker ones, it’ll benefit me so much with my illustrations. Thank you!
Best comparison video yet!
@WaterColorMisfit
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah! Thanks :D
This is so helpful!! Thank you!
I love these comparison videos! I learned so much!
@WaterColorMisfit
5 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad :D I learn alot from them too! :)
Thanks. Instructive and enjoyable.
Que hermosas pinturas haces! Me gustaría pintar algún día tan bonito como usted 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻✨💕
That was very interesting! I have 300 lb. paper, but have never tried 400 lb. It looks wonderful. I may have to indulge in a sheet! Thanks for the informative video!
i never knew what those rubber brushes were for, until now
@aham639
5 жыл бұрын
farley pants some people use them like this but they’re made for clay
@snager80
5 жыл бұрын
@@aham639 that's what I was told, but it makes more sense to use them like this! i hope I didn't give the ones i had away!
I love 300lb, and would love to give this 400lb a try! Awesome video
Wow perfect video! Thank you so much :)
So informative. Thank you for making this video! 💕
@WaterColorMisfit
5 жыл бұрын
You are welcome! :D
Thank you, Carrie! Very informative series.
@WaterColorMisfit
5 жыл бұрын
You are welcome :)
And I learned you can apply masking fluid with a sculpting shaper! That was a cool tip to learn.
@WaterColorMisfit
Жыл бұрын
That's great!
Thank you Carrie that was very helpful...I am off to buy some 300 lbs paper!!
Worth noting: Lbs is the weight in pounds of 500 sheets of paper (the sizes of which vary quite a bit, as rather large sheets are often cut down for various final products), and gsm is a more standard grams per square meter. Despite that, this was still very informative - and I’m impressed by the 400lb paper you found! And that bunny illustration is so sweet. I love the texture you created for the bark of the tree, and the cool color palette is so calming. Looks like something I’d have hung in my son’s nursery when he was a baby.
I recently used 300 lb 100% cotton paper for the first time, and it was a revelation! The amount of water it can handle and the extra long amount of time the paper and paint stays wet and workable is AMAZING!
I have canson XL 140 and arches 300!! I LOVE THE 300 but wow what a great comparison vid!!
Excellent tutorial. I really learned a lot. You’re a wonderful instructor & your voice is lovely. Lest I forget to mention, your illustration was beautiful & whimsical. Thank you 😊👩🏻🎨
Hullo Carrie, I am like you using 140Lb papers for years and years. I have only used 300Lb paper for extra large commissions. I have found the Saunders Waterford 200Lb paper is kinda like a soft press and it is wonderful for landscapes and good for any size painting! I have found blocks a real solution for lighter weight papers or even wood pulp papers just accept water and paints better if contained in block form. Yes, it is more expensive than sheets but without needing to stretch you can save time and time can mean more money for the Artist! Just enjoying your content I might have missed in the past.
Wow,! What a difference Carrie, I suppose if you have the money you would choose the 300/400llb weight paper hands down all the time. Makes a massive difference to the quality of your paintings also like you discovered. X
This is so helpful thank you. I bought a watercolor sketch book an didn't know about lb so it sucks it can't take water at all and it sucks and I'm looking for a new one to buy since I just used this crappy one for practice and this is so helpful for me to get a better quality this time around
I Just love your illustration! 💙💙 I would love to try the heavier weight papers - I currently use arches 140lb but it does warp a bit when doing large areas of wet in wet. Your video was really helpful and interesting- thank you 😊
I live in a small little town/city and there aren't alot of stores with art supplies so the only paper we've had is 90lb or if I'm lucky 140lb this is the only paper I've had so seeing this is really helpful especially since I mostly shop online and can't get some sort of sample for it
I bought a sketchbook off jetpens and it’s a japanese brand. I tried using watercolors on it and it didn’t seep through !! It held the watercolors so nicely but it did warp alot. I just thought it was so cool.
Thanks!
Thanks for the video, I get overwhelmed when I have to choose between the diferent pounds and this is a good guide ❤️
@WaterColorMisfit
5 жыл бұрын
So glad this helped :D
i got an ad for your course halfway through watching your video :0
Take a shot every time she says "like a dream"😂😂
@tia-8802
4 жыл бұрын
Take a shot every time she says 'paper'!
Amo tu voz y como editas tus videos!
Love your explanation. New subscriber.
It took me half the video to realize that it was lbs not gsm. 😂🙈 300/400lbs sounds like a dream! I just use 140lbs/300gsm, but stretching helps a lot with warping. Also, the neat borders are super satisfying at the end. 👌🙏
Love your style!
@WaterColorMisfit
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks :D
This video was so helpful. I wish I had dinner this earlier in my journey
I use 90 lb paper for making my own sketchbooks and swatching and 300lb for everything else. I got a bunch of both on sale and I’m super happy with them. My favourite sketchbook paper is a 90lb hot press paper.
What is the brush you were using at 10:25? I have a hard time finding good fine brushes. Thank you!
Could you recommend brands of paper? like where did you get the 400lb paper cause I want to try it! Look so cool!
The lightest paper I use is 93 lbs in my mixed-media sketchbook. I can't even imagine using 90 lb paper for a finished piece. 💀
Amazing drawing love your artwork brilliant work :D
@WaterColorMisfit
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks :D
How fun! I've been around bit and don't think I've noticed 400# w/c paper. Did you mention the brand? That was a super video! I think it's wonderful to encourage others to think of doing a series of comparisons on these types of things: the papers they use, the brushes and the paint. In watercolor painting all of those components are equally important and those comparisons will prove it. If you use great paint, a sable brush and low quality paper... you will always struggle. Improve the paper, and voila!, better painting and painting experience. 😏
@kathrynt98011
5 жыл бұрын
Arches CP comes in 400lb/850gsm
Very nice, you are an awesome artist!
@WaterColorMisfit
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks :)
I am very new so I have been using 140 but if I ever get half way decent I will get the 300 or 400 but for pricing for now 140 is good going to take your beginners class after this thanks.
Hi, thank you so much for the detailed info. I'd like to know if you used the same exact tecnique on the four of them- not everything is doable, but number of layers for example? Please.
Definitely love the 400# paper. Thanks for this information it was helpful.❤️❤️❤️
@WaterColorMisfit
5 жыл бұрын
You are welcome :D
Great video, very very informative!
@WaterColorMisfit
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks :D
So amazing painting...This was so helpful video to me :D Thanks a lot and looking forward to more helpful videos 👍
Nice vid, and very good info! Question: do you stretch your paper? Why or why not?
I feel like that 400 lb paper would be really nice for printmaking using copper plates. ❤
The heavier ones. I’d love to try them
Great comparison of the different weights. Are these all the same brand? (If so, I apologize as I may have missed it). Makes so much sense now looking back at some that I used 140 and was frustrated with how much it was warping even taped down to a board.... love your little bunny! Thank you!
Thanks for the demonstration. I learned a lot. Do you ever gesso your watercolor paper? I noticed one artist on You Tube always gessos his 300 pound watercolor paper.
What is your opinion of Bristol? Your work is fantastic..by the way😍
I didn't know that paper came heavier than # 300. That's why I thought illustrators used watercolor boards of some sort when using watercolors. Thanks for the info and demo.
Yes.
I use 140 lb Canson Montval but I usually use my sketchbook for watercolor. What do you think of using watercolor in sketchbooks?
The 400lbs looks really amazing. I generally use 140lbs in blocks, usually Arches, which is good for most purposes, but I've started looking at 200lbs (Waterfords) and 300lbs (Arches) more. Not being a professional, I'd probably stick with 300lbs, but I may have to get 400lbs just for fun. As an aside, I just wanted to say that I really love your illustration style for animals. They're remarkably cute without being cartoony and they always manage to make me smile when I see them.
@WaterColorMisfit
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks :) And you should totally try the 400lb! It was alot of fun! :D
Good demo! Thank you. Wondering if all are 100% cotton, what manufacturers you used, if there was pilling with any of them, did you do any lifting out, and the result, and about the sizing these papers had (that's a tough question, I know). Always in search of the perfect paper. And from the comments, I'm not alone. 😊
that final piece was so pretty and whimsical! this is the first video of yours I've seen so are you by chance selling any prints? i would love to buy this if you are