I feel like in a rewrite the elves could still CLAIM to love fluffy cute nature but it's juxtaposed with them treating absolute face-ripping beasts like lap dogs-- the same attitude as people who name their dogs Princess

@masterjoda999

3 ай бұрын

So an entire race of Hagrid

@WTFisTingispingis

3 ай бұрын

@@masterjoda999 Hell yeah

@BobMcBobJr

2 ай бұрын

Elf: This is Cuddles. Scared Human: The giant porcupine Dragon!? Elf: Yep, Isn't he cute? Who's a good cuddles? Cuddles: Rooooaorr! Kill! Destroy! Elf: Good Cuddles! Get the human!

Wait a minute, elf woman defending her people, killed and raised into undeath by an evil tin plate tyrant, why am i getting a sense of deja vous? And why do elves always seem to get the short end of the stick in modern fantasy? Warcraft, Dragon Age, DnD, Warhammer both versions, Elder Scrolls, Witcher, Overlord why does everyone seem to hate elves?

@khanlusa

7 ай бұрын

Honestly I almost spliced footage from Sylvanas's Warbringers cinematic

@Keram-io8hv

5 ай бұрын

This is modern fantasy, you need poor opressed race to feel sorry for Also getting shorter stick in ES? Literally the greatest threat to Empire are high elves, in Warhammer everyone is doomed and DnD? Nothings wrong with them there too

@samiamtheman7379

4 ай бұрын

Well in Elder Scrolls, Elves genuinely did a lot of fucked up shit. Can't speak much for Warhammer Fantasy since I'm lacking in the lore department, but in 40k they're the reason at least one of the Chaos gods exists.

@Keram-io8hv

4 ай бұрын

@@samiamtheman7379 In Fantasy there bit Tolkien-esque but they are not crybaby pushovers like in Dragon Age

@SirGentleshark

3 ай бұрын

From what I've seen, Elves are often used in fantasy in ways similar to Vampires, Fae, etc. which is to say standins for either Bourgeois Elites/Nobility tied to arcane traditions, long lived and uncaring for the lives of those "beneath" them... and, at worse, this is expressed by them being coded as foreign, feminine or gender ambiguous, and queer, which in turn motivates a lot of the popular violence against them. This doesn't mean "elves are always standins for women/femininity/queerness/foreigners/etc." but that's often a writing crutch used by certain writers that fits neatly into popular depictions of post-Tolkien fantasy Elves - at least in Western media If your story calls for a stand-in for either an uncaring foreign sorcerer, you can choose to depict them with the same kind of queercoding that Disney did for it's villains and you can go ahead and make them an Elf too to emphasize their "other-ness" and "fantasy presence"; if you want to have an opressed minority as a analogy for racism but aren't comfortable using real-world racism in your story, slap some elves in there instead to again: emphasize how they're "othered" by comparisson to humans, conventionally attractive (for those "falling in love with the beautiful opressed minority" plots) and both humanoid enough to be empathetic and weird enough to be fantastical - it's ultimately down to lazy handling of tropes by writers that aren't really thinking "that deeply" about it The opposite problem plagues Dwarves, as they're often used as a cheap writer's crutch to represent conformity, traditional masculinity, protestant work ethic, greed and industry, etc. - which, as an autistic obsessed with fantasy Dwarves, I am extremely frustrated by - I mean, bearded women and literal underground societies would have so much potential for weirdness that never seems to get explored...

I feel like the 3 mistresses were kind of meant to represent each of the minion types, but cuts and budget stopped that from being fully realized and developed which makes me sad. Kelda represented the browns, being brutal and to the point; Juno being the greens, or at least could have if she really was more tricky and a political snake or an actual witch; Fay corrupted would be the reds, while a ghost would be the blues. I loved Kelda as a kid because she was badass at least on paper, though I like Fay more for being a surprisingly serious character and her exasperation for her people’s antics. Her being willing to corrupt herself for the greater good was really cool to see. Honestly feels like there should have been more to them, like actually side quests and such you did to earn their favor/love instead of just buying knickknacks. This game was my childhood, which is why I’ll always love it, but it definitely felt like there was a lot that was underused or rushed. I did love the twist with Florian as a kid, seeing him just drop the hippy elf act and reveal himself as the emperor was awesome. Another thing that I felt was undersold. And the fat jokes was a lot. Having it just be a mother goddess thing with the elves, which is based off the old fat statues, or the mermaids as a gag, or the Empire to show their hedonism and how the emperor is treating them like cattle, would have been enough. But all of them put together is just… ugh.

I saw the change in corruption as being well representative of the character. In Overlord 1, you had a choice between embracing your role or instead maintaining some of your former goodness as a fallen hero. Which made sense considering who you were. In this, your a bullied kid who was raised entirely by the minions, and even before that came from a harsh culture if Kelda is anything to judge by. Some you instead having the choice of corruption vs destruction makes more sense. Your not really as craft or grey, because the minions that raised you aren’t either. Even the mistress chance made so sense, as underused as it was and as juvenile as it was. His father was a knight with a seemingly strict view on love, and his options were a pair of sisters. The witch boy was raised by minions who definitely don’t have the best view on romance, if Gnarl’s comments are anything to judge by.

Honestly... the fat thing feels more like "the writers barely disguised fetish"

Aw, as I watched your retelling, I was hoping the twist was that the Emperor was actually the child of the previous game's protagonist, who had gone overboard with Rose's orderly ways.

@sirkelendor5429

3 ай бұрын

The player character is the child of the first games protag

@Kris-wo4pj

2 ай бұрын

​@@sirkelendor5429they were hoping for a better twist

@sirkelendor5429

2 ай бұрын

@@Kris-wo4pj thats a worse twist tf

Not where I thought I would learn the difference between jungle and rainforest but I'll be dammed if it wasn't delivered in a way I'm going to remember forever

I mean I'm fat and was fat when I played Overlord 2 and never really bothered me, I even found some of the fat jokes funny, not all mind you, but we need to be able to laugh at ourselves, take ourselves too seriously and we end up unable to enjoy things

@karrimgyver

3 ай бұрын

You have the right attitude. And appetite.

@naheleshiriki5496

3 ай бұрын

I don't think it's that big of a deal so much as overplayed. I think there should never be red tape when it comes to comedy as that is the main way in which real discussions can start, through laughter. As she stated this is a crutch in their writing as they just keep going back to it.

@pyorre2441

3 ай бұрын

@@naheleshiriki5496 There is old rule about jokes that three is maximum amount people will find a joke funny if it is repeated, it seems the makers of this game overdid that by a country mile. I have not played this game myself.

@WilliamMiller-fc9qv

3 ай бұрын

Agreed, but I will say they went to far with the jokes as it comes across as lazy and repetitive. It should be more varied.

@levijonathansix

2 ай бұрын

As someone who has always been skinny and leads an active lifestyle well into my early 30s I will say I take issue with the rampant obesity problem in the US and I think there is a level of shaming and stigmatism that should exist around it because diabetes and heart disease plagues our society and affects our children when we don’t know how to take care of ourselves let alone our progeny and I firmly think child suffering and death is not cool. HOWEVER, this game’s problem is not that the writers believe being fat is gross, unhealthy, or funny, which is subjectively humorous to some, it’s that it consistently pulls the same punch over and over… and over. I agree with the fact that the joke is played out ad nauseam. Almost every detestable character contrary to the goals of the player is fat or an effeminate man… or both. I’m not even one to virtue signal for the sake of wokeness and I realize that this game is targeted for a young male audience with the idea of playing an Overlord in and of itself being a textbook power fantasy so the misogyny, machismo, and edgy aspects aren’t as disturbing to me. But it’s just plainly not funny when the same joke gets made repeatedly. Even a light jab at someone’s appearance in real life can evoke a chuckle but hearing the same person rail another person for their weight, looks, or demeanor is just malicious and downright mean and most importantly in the context of trying to be funny, very unfunny. At some point you realize the joke is not in jest or light-hearted and instead becomes more of a directed attack. A comedian can get on stage and make a dicey joke about fat people and will usually win the crowd over if the joke was executed right but there is no comedian on this planet who dedicates a whole comedy special to ribbing people with weight problems for their hour-long special because it would lose people very quickly. That’s what this game tries to make work. Ralphie May, Gabriel Iglesias, and Chris Farley among others have created a career out of the absurdity of their weight but that wasn’t the only thing they had to say. Make the joke and move on. This game can’t seem to do that and the comedy suffered for it imo. Beyond that, most successful body image jokes are self-deprecating. None of the appearance jokes in this game are aimed at the player or the Overlord and remain solely focused on pointing and laughing at other people which feels very elementary and lacking in any level of self-awareness. And maybe there’s some meta humor about the main character being a malevolent ruthless jerk who preys on these type of people because he’s heartless but the writing seems far more low brow and lacking in depth than that would imply. Honestly the comedy isn’t great at any point. It ultimately feels mean-spirited to the point of trying to make a statement instead of a joke.

That glitch is exactly why I didn’t finish the game as a child. Half my fault, I had found an upgrade thing for my minions but it was over a narrow log bridge. The heart and upgrade piece got stuck, neither group of minions could set either one down, so I teleported and uh oh no heart.

When I played this game, the most annoying part was subjugating Everlight during the Elves' rebellion because there are civilians in the area and you can accidentally blow them up. I do hope that this series gets more games since I loved playing Overlord 1 and 2, but given that Fellowship of Evil sucked ass and Codemasters is owned by EA, it's very unlikely...

This sounds like that one teenage friend who keeps joking about a fetish being weird and they just think it's funny and you find out later they just have that fetish, just the verrrrrry large women just keep showing up

@thomasjoychild4962

11 күн бұрын

It just... keeps coming up, right?

I hope we get a third, actual game out of this. I feel like modern Triumph is still based enough to make something good. Dark Legend and that one MOBA don't exist. Weird you'd even mention them.

While I agree the game focused too much on fat people for its jokes… being mean-spirited is the entire franchises vibe. Everything comes back to being cruel and mean either for no real reason beyond satisfying the bully or megalomaniac in the player or because it benefits you, often both. It shouldn’t focus so much on fat people, and should strike at the short people, as well as anybody and everybody else, especially when it would be hypocritical. Because in this franchise, cruelty = funny.

If they ever made another one of these games, it’d be cool to mix some of the mechanics like the minions and domination system with Shadow of War’s nemesis system. They’d go pretty well together.

A few points on the how to make it better section. Yes the fat jokes are overdone but a few of them do have a place like the empire being fat, lazy and undiciplined outside of the military and the right hand man makes sense as the emperor (not sure if I should refer to him as Solarius or Florian) has no interest in building a lasting civilization of humans and likely intended for it to fall apart after his goal was reached by either destroying it himself or leaving it to crumble to the corruption, greed and laziness he not only allowed but nurtured (that is my interpretation at least might be looking to deep into a silly game tho). The elf priestess being on the thicker side makes sense if you look at he statue in the first game or the multiple ones in this one but this is way to far. The faires were kinda pointlessly fat outside of giving Quaver an exuse to make a bee joke and establishing that minions like big bazoongas and don't really care beyond that but I did chuckle at Gnarl voicing one (same voice actor apparently voices Florian/Solarius/the emperor too) so I'm all for a redesign tho the flower idea might clash with the cartoonish and slightly off putting style of the game. Love the mermaid idea but don't think eldritch deep sea monster with a hint of body horror would mesh with this game in particular what with the cartoonish style. counterpoint about Fey (btw she is in fact not an elf but a different and apparantly unique fairy), keep the corruption mistress option specifically because of that yikes evil factor, make the banshee hate and haunt you and not be a mistress, but make a third option if you don't enslave or destroy the towns where she looses most of her powers but is uncorrupted so she becomes the counter voice to Gnarl and his evil for evils sake advice. Juno needed to be fleshed out more (or at all) and there are hints in game that there might have been more too her at one point in development, if we look at her decorations and favored minion tipe there are two distinct themes, opulence and grandeur in lions, eagles and gold vs venomous and treacherous in snakes, spiders and dark silver, so I think there is a lot of unused potential in Juno as a backstabbing politician and/or assassin that may or may not betray you, even better if you can't be sure by making her be the flirtiest of the mistress options but all the flirting sounds vaguely threatening. Kelda fighting alongside you in some missions would be awesome but I think the saving the overlord plotline is a bit much as the whole point of the game is to be a near unstoppeble overlord with a small army following you everywhere. On the topic of the mistresses specifically the decorations they bring should be aesthetic only but unlocking some of them could tied to side quests for each individual mistress, hunting with Kelda to get fur and trophies for her decorations, extort, robbing or killing nobles with/for Juno to get the fancy gold ones for her and finaly helping/exterminating magical creatures for Fey depending on which version of her you have and get a clean or tattered decor for it. Meet in the middle on the elves? someone in the comments mentioned elves as a bunch of Hagrids with "misunderstood" dangerous creatures and I lake that idea but also have a sub faction of elves headed by Florian acting like the hippie flower children they do currently as he is trying to subvert the elves to make them less of a threat to his plans. as for Florian himself the only change I think he needs is a more distinct change in how he talks after revealing himself to drive home that the obnoxious hippie flower child was all an act. as for my own suggestions for improvements: a low corrption/order route, instead of just destroy or enslave you can rule (see uncorrupted Fey idea). more to do with the towns/town inteface, as it is it's just pay to take over, I would like to have just a bit control over the towns I supposedly conquered like fixing the damn bridge in nordberg, specializing/upgrading the towns towards something like keeping the tourism going in everlight for more gold every time you visit.

I need more good games with harems damnit!

I'm not saying you want another Sylvanas, but the profile pic speaks for itself

Everything you complained about makes the game sound awesome tbh

@khanlusa

3 ай бұрын

That's the beauty of opinions, if this made you want to play the game then be free and do that, I hope you have fun ✨✨

@josephwebster2319

2 ай бұрын

aren't you so cool and edgy, better be careful with that edge or you might end up cutting yourself on it

@mercidicAGES

Ай бұрын

I agree, tho not because of the humor. it's a cartoonishly evil game in a cartoonish setting, so a lot of the flat jokes and writing seem kind of fitting for a game about being cartoonishly evil. You aren't the good guy, so I don't particularly find issues with the way they treat the characters in the game. It's not a serious game with a serious take on morality. It's just surface level bad guy doin' bad things. It'd be interesting to see a more adult and realistic approach, tho.

@svenneumann2816

Ай бұрын

​@@josephwebster2319TIL having a sense of humor is "trying to be cool and edgy"

@josephwebster2319

Ай бұрын

@@svenneumann2816 except this isn't "having a sense of humor" lil bud, I know it's hard to wrap your mind around but jokes have to be funny to be you know jokes

I already told you, I'm in. You don't have to sell it, you know?

Cool video & ideas. The only criticism I have for your proposed changes is that Overlord is meant to be a mean-spirited game where you play as the bad guy (with 'how bad' being somewhat up to the player) and nearly everything is a stereotyped mockery of what people like about medieval fantasy. I'd say the issue with Overlord 2 isn't the fat jokes & sexism - it's that there's not enough of any other mean-spirited stuff unrelated to those things to balance it out.

@bruuuuuuuuhhhh

3 ай бұрын

I mean, you do club baby seals to death as a tutorial.

@DBArtsCreators

3 ай бұрын

@@bruuuuuuuuhhhh Now the next question: if we had cannons, would our practice ammo be minions, orphans, more baby seals, or halflings?

@idanilsson3464

3 ай бұрын

The sexism is never put forth as something evil. Its there for the player, its not part of the lore or the worldbuilding.

@bruuuuuuuuhhhh

3 ай бұрын

@@DBArtsCreators which one would sound the funniest when fired at a high velocity

@DBArtsCreators

3 ай бұрын

@@bruuuuuuuuhhhh I think it's a tie between the baby seals & orphans. Orphans bring high-pitched screaming, but the seals will sound the funniest when they explode on impact.

I mean, being unapologetic evil and being a problematic (over)cringelord kinda goes hand in hand.

so like, i get the bad stuff, i understand the bad stuff, but like i also feel that the game, in its base form is designed to be played with the mindset of being evil, your not supposed to care for others, your not supposed to care about the women your not supposed to give two damns about anything, you kill baby seals for gods sake, and while I get it yknow objectifying women is wrong, making horrendous tropes such as the "goth" or "men + boobs" and "perfect" girl is shallow and unfunny, these games were made like in 2009. also, keep in mind that most of the bad shit that's said in the game is by the minions, who are...unintelligent creatures who don't know any better and speak without filtration, so keep that in mind as well. finally I like to choose to believe that our perception as the player is warped to see things in a different light, such as seeing romans as fat pigs, seeing the elves as hippy tree huggers, etc etc, of course this doesn't excuse the fat shaming, but again, the whole "evil" thing.

I really want a more modern version of this .. with better graphics and graphic wenches ..

@nicktheprickgaming8586

18 күн бұрын

Ikil

Yes, thank you, finally someone else who recognizes the psychopathy and horror of chimpanzees

Imma go out on a limb here and say: This game was deliberately cringe to distant itself from epic tales. And saturated distasteful humour reminds you, the player, that your side is not the good guys

I’m currently working on a few songs about OverLord: Raising Hell, and I just hope that one day she tries to make a review of OverLord: Dark Legend

i remember player overlord 1 when it came out in 2006 or 7. When i got my xbox 360 i bought overlord 2 and i loved it. I bet the game multiple times. Your being way too literal about this game.

3:26 my favorite aspects to the whole series let's be honest if there was a new overlord game with the same humor it would be canceled by the soft hearted

While I am glad that are continuing to put out content, I cannot stress enough (nor often enough) how great your reidealizing and retelling of stories was great. You've a knack and voice for the telling of stories. I do hope you get back to that some day.

@khanlusa

7 ай бұрын

Well, not in video form, but I am working on putting my ideas on AO3 so they are at least Out There

33:30 Really? In a game named Overlord? 😂

@Kris-wo4pj

2 ай бұрын

If it was the actually overload making these jokes id get it. But its not theyre making these jokes about themselves at this point. I think the devs saw how fable did its humor said yeah i can do that" then didnt actually do that.

@yoshinikoori9855

Ай бұрын

>Evil Overlord >Don’t insult fatties Apparently, evil *should have* standards or “be nice or respectful”?

Someone was working through their fat kink when they made this game. Not a mummy kink, this was a maw kink. I dont mind low hanging jokes, some were funny some were mean but thats kinda the point in an evil game. But jesus i didnt notice the mother goddess statue in the last ones dlc. The abolute absurdity of it was the worst kind of funny. Im all for people creating art however they want but how the hell did that ever get past the censors. How did that even get past their own QA team. Id understand some edgy indy developer doing that, but a mainstream developer? Id rather they not but whatever floats their boat, which is apparently fat women for that one dev in their office

To be honest, the only issue I had with this game was the magic system. Mechanically it just never worked right, so I just stopped using it altogether. Had it been more like the first game's, I think it would have worked a lot better. As for the mistresses, Kelda is OTP and best girl.

My GOD playing this game and the first one was a blast this week BUT the controls feels buggy sometimes on pc. Prob just an old game struggling to keep up but meh. I really liked both games and still hoping for the 3rd game. Fellowship of evilness does not count as a continuation of this series or as a game. Also as a fat guy I got a chuckle or two at all the fat jokes

This was so good. Overlord 2 is one of the most disappointing games I've ever played solely because it's opening is one of the best I've ever seen. If I could make one suggestion, it would be to bring back the idea from the first game that all the badguys represent one of the deadly sins. It's almost already implemented. Governor Borius is a fat glutton, Florian is envy, Juno for greed, Rose is slothful for not making any effort to raise her child, and Senator Drearius lusts for Juno. It works so well that I imagine it was apart of the game design but got abandoned halfway in development.

I do have one question to ask, during your "making it better section" you turned the villain into a anti hero, so my question basically amounts to what would make you evil?

Loved this game personally. Partly becuse I enjoy the catharsis of being an evil dick partly becuse I found the humor enjoyable mostly becuse Im a pikmin fan and the gameplay is just janky pikmin with a walmart LOTR knock off paintjob

While everyone is free to have their opinions on things I'll be honest. Trying to compare and hold a game made 15yrs ago to the current day standards and societal norms just honestly feels pointless. Its like the folks who watched the classic Disney films and got offended by the things in them because they don't meet that persons standards based on the current day. They then demand scenes be changed or removed altogether. Instead of trying to change them etc instead use it positively to show how far society has evolved since then.

I have no idea how I got here from where I was. Algorithm must like you.

I hope they make a real sequel, and double down on all the stuff. More off color jokes, more objectification, and more making fun of hippies, and definitely more mistresses who only want your coin and status. With one mistress who genuinely cares about the character, cause that's tradition at this point.

Overlord is based and minionpilled, the only thing that could have made it better is if you played as a snu snu hip crushing fem overlord and conquered the lands while amassing husbandos.

@malcolm4737

2 ай бұрын

Gigabased take, hope Triumph Studios would stop messing around and finally make a sequel with male/fem Overlords and flying mounts for your Blue ones.

I didn't even get that far into the game I got just passed the dryads, got stuck, fell back down an elevator that I'd just gone up, only to discover a progress breaking bug in the form of not being able to get the elevator back. Between replaying 20 mins or playing something better, I picked better.

always love seeing overlord content

God, I love the overlord games. These games are near the near perfect only issues I have some minor gameplay issues, and it's just not long enough. The humor is 10/10 I love that this game embraces its theme and never feels like its trying to hold back or expand appeal to an audience that wouldn't enjoy it. It knows what it is. It knows theres audience, and it embraces those fans. I hope we get another even its just one more some day

28:22 i mean....isnt this true? Just seems like good life advice from the minions to me.

Great video, thanks for your efforts.

Honestly, this whole video felt like " I don't like this and wish it was something developers had not actually intended to make" under a guise of a critique.

@gabbonoo

3 ай бұрын

it's both. the sarcastic humor, acknowledged middle ground, and honest bias seem to be the features of this series.

@TurKlack

3 ай бұрын

@@gabbonoo I think it's leaves a bad taste, since the rest of the Video and the things that don't conflict with her innocent ego are usually well crafted and expressed.

@gabbonoo

2 ай бұрын

@@TurKlack dont know what innocent ego means but i feel the same. high emotion simplifies and polarises, leading to less comedy. i dont watch youtube to join the outrage brigade

@monkebiznez

2 ай бұрын

This. Watching this video about Overlord is like reading a Twitter post.

@Kris-wo4pj

2 ай бұрын

​@@monkebiznezno its not. Ya guys are being snowflakes about a medicore gsme from the early 2000s. Its actually really pathetic. Literally half the game is fat and slut jokes. And the elves are annoying. How is pointing that out a twitter post? Cuz ya dont agree or ya like hearing the same unfunny joke 20 times in a row? I swear its people like ya that explains why most games are shit now.

Today I have learned the difference between jungle and rainforest. Educational as well as entertaining criticism!

NGL I love your ideas. That battle couple idea sounds very appealing.

I feel as if the series was aiming to be comically evil and not to be taken seriously in the slightest. Just a funny (albeit raunchy) bad guy doing bad guy things and genuinely not caring about it afterwards. It is understandable how he’d treat anyone or anything outside his rule that serves no personal gain as either inferior or objects of ridicule with the barrage of jokes, insults and general disgust. Granted, the fat centered insults can get redundant, the best option would be for more substance and diversity in the insults

Whew, reading that title I thought that you meant the anime Overlord and its second season for a moment.

"how to fix the game, simple make a different game" what an introspective

@khanlusa

4 ай бұрын

You're welcome to suggest your own fix ✨✨

@redsnake188

3 ай бұрын

​@@khanlusa easy dont change a thing go play something else, litterally anything else that YOU enjoy, and give the fans overlord 3

@okpaghorosolution6590

3 ай бұрын

@@redsnake188 my thoughts exactly

Comedy is definitely subjective and that's okay. I think where the problem lies here is the presentation of the game's premise rather than the premise itself. There's nothing wrong with enjoying the game, and I don't think it necessarily means you're an asshole, but that's the only part I really disagree with. Ultimately I'd fall short on calling it problematic, just annoying at times. Like you said, the game doesn't take itself seriously, and neither should we spend all that much time taking its humor seriously. Great video, and congrats on a new sub. lol

Tbh I like game harems in theory. I mean yes, let me romance all the characters lets go. But the practical reality of that is that less time gets dedicated to fleshing out the individual characters. Each additional character means more time & resources that could be spent developing other aspects of the game. So yeah, I like them... in theory :(

It just recently hit me how perfect the Gremlins 2 theme fits with this game. 😆

23:09 this happened to me in the first game I lost a thingamajig required to get to the next stage and it was no longer on the map

Smartly done and well reviewed

When I saw you were going to cover this game my first thought was "oh there's going to be opinions about the girls!!"

I'm still waiting on a sequel with all the pros n cons of early 2000s humor n jank

Ok, gonna start off by agreeing the writing in this game isnt all that good. They definitely push jokes too much to the point where its not super funny. But the whole if you don't agree with me you're a bully stace is ridiculous. What a joke of a stance. Like lol wat? Liking irreverent humor does make people bad... please get off your high horse. The "fat phobia" and "misogyny" is on purpose. You are playing a game where you are the bad guy, the anti-hero. You literally say in the first games review that you wish there were more games that let you be the bad guy, but the get upset with the more miniscule bad things that the actual evil acts that you do in the game. Like you are upset that the mistresses are treated like hunks of meat, but the mass murder and mass enslavement is nbd... how can you not complain about a mass murderer but being misogynistic is "too far"? I only leave a negative comment like this because I liked the video, but gosh were those the most awkward and preachy segments of any game review I listened to for a long time.

Brohter might i sugeest toning down the censorship bleep in the volume mixer, even when the volume is turned down to 50 its irritatingly painful in volume

I didn't know there was a second one.

WAIT THERE'S A OVERLORD 2 REVIEW TIME TO REDO A REPLY THREAD!!

@chaopainter4595

5 ай бұрын

My conclusion is overlord raising hell is the best

Will you make a video of the third game in the series?

If you really wanted to be lazy and change as little as possible, Fey's character could still be saved by later revealing that she actually *wanted* to side with you because you were taking the fight to the Empire and that the whole "evil energy" thing was just an excuse. But yeah she shouldn't be with you if you *kill* her. Aside fr the grossness, what's the point of giving the player choices if they have no consequence? People should die when they are killed.

my favourite game just wish it had coop campaign for the story not like two overlords but main player controls the overlord and player 2 controls some sort of super minion

18:51 - Lol .. Foot Fan Service!

I could see a third game with Queen Fay as the PC. We drain her in Overlord 2, which corrupts her. Check transformation into evil. She's now drained of power and needs to power up throughout the game. Check for power progression. And if we want to; check for swapping out the gender of the PC to get something new going. We could even have a RIVAL in the form of a kid that Witch-boy got with his mistress (regardless of what gender they are). Or sibling duo for rivals if we should tick both human mistresses. Otherwise just twins or normal siblings (like Rose and Velvet) as rivals. Rival could remain your rival and we end that in a duel or you can become a power couple that destroy everything.

Sounds like a really toxic polycule.

mostly stereotypically helarious but quaver's a funny lad

28:25 In the real world, the saying "Happy wife, happy life" is extremely common for a reason. The man traditionally provides, but the woman is the one who has control of the household. Coming home to someone who is mad because you forgot the milk or didn't do an errand or forgot something does indeed suck. Buying your spouse an apology gift to make it up to them (I prefer glass sculptures because they are more elegant) is also pretty common. 34:00 Yes, historical Rome did not have that many fat people in it. Yes, they make a good exemplary character flaw about self control and decadence. The game is a crass comedy so they are turning that knob to 11

I love the first two games. Hopefully this channel covers the last one. I have heard nothing but horrible things about it. But i am curious if it's just as fat phobic or if the game play just sucks.

I like this. Thank you

I think the main problem with this game is its not apparently obvious that the game is supposed to be a parody. Which i didnt even realize was a problem till this video, because it was always obvious to me

Sooo, its kinda like pikman huh. Interesting. Never heard of this game

I am a little mad that they had console only DLC.

some people beat a dead horse in for one prefer a live seal.

I showed this to my girlfriend and she very much likes your perspective :)

8:05 convinced me.. Should've taken the gold

“Just don’t be cruel to people” AMEN TO THAT

@olknoxlo

Ай бұрын

But I want to roleplay a cruel and evil overlord..

overlord vid therefore i am pleased ^^ i would also like to say that there does seem to be a dlc for the 2nd game, but it's xbox 360 (?) exclusive, which is a shame

I love how they just copy and pasted gremlins 😂

0:58 - Hehe. "Crack on". Heh.

What? You don't get the option of a male mistress? How disappointing. Joking aside, I don't get their fixation on a particular kind of woman. Nor would I want to.

love these games!

I see a lot of comments arguing that the meanspirited jokes make sense, because it's a game about being an evil overlord. That doesn't really work for me, for a couple reasons. First, the evil overlord isn't the one making any of the jokes. I guess it somewhat applies to your minion, but plenty of the fat jokes are made by other characters as well. Are they meant to be evil, too? More importantly, the sheer number of fat jokes compared to everything else throws it off for me. If the overlord himself were constantly making mean lowbrow jokes about all sorts of people - a fat joke here, a gay joke there, a dead kid joke here - then I'd buy that it works for the sake of the tone; you're playing a mean bastard who reflects that in his humor. But it seems like for every joke about clubbing a baby seal, there's ten jokes about how fat people are gross. That feels less like "you're evil so you joke at other people's expense" and more that you just specifically don't like fat people. That doesn't feel very "evil overlord" to me.

@khanlusa

2 ай бұрын

You. You get it. 🙌

I recall playing the game and loving it a lot when I was younger, it's been many years since I played it (And my English has improved immensely in that time, a lot of the jokes and comments flew over my head) and I was expecting to not like this video when you brought up the fat joke's at first. "Oh it's just a couple of times, you're evil! Of course you're gonna be cruel to people". but as the video went on and on, I noticed you we're totally right. The game does target fat people specifically quite often, and always as if being fat was the worst thing about these people who owned slaves and thought nothing of killing people for amusement. I still cherish the game for getting me into villainous protagonist games but I see it's flaws much better now after watching this video, thank you. It was a really enjoyable video and I can't wait to watch more from you.

idk if you notice but comparing overlord 1 to the sequel you can see that the graphics are turn down even the animation is not the same as the first like idk what happen

I got the sense that the constant jokes on the women was meant to intentionally insult women as part of the role of playing an evil overlord. The same with every other thing. For a sequel, I think a good one would be the father escaping hell and it would be father versus son. Also, it could be that one of the mistresses in the second game will be loyal and fight with the overlord, while the other betrays the overlord and joins the father. All depending how they are treated.

16:13 Caught that. Hilarious.

36:05 Yo I was agreeing with you on the other things until then Kelda part, making the fairy queen the next game's antagonist actually sounds awesome, and honestly I don't even remember the name of the 2nd mistress she was way too boring,and having Kelda join the fight could be a cool scene, but the whole cheap romance novel part of Kelda saving the injured overlord and him speaking for the first time just to thank her is WAY too cringe, it honestly sounds like bad fanficion

I bought Overlord 2 just a few years back at a second hand store mistaking it for Dungeons 2. The music of the game is absolute banger. In regards to the jokes, I definitely found them funny, but moreso because of the nature of the jokes rather than their topic. It‘s all very over-exaggerated, which is exactly my kind of thing. So I‘d have limited the fat people to the empire, as in a caricature of being overly decadent. I understand why they made all the depictions of nature into nature goddesses; but the sudden historical accuracy doesnt add anything. Better to find some cliche to turn up to 11 instead imo, as that is what the rest of the game does. I really like the „partners in crime“ and the corruption; but I agree that the Banshee should have been an obstacle. Juno was just boring tho why does she exist?

I gotta go through and play the first and second game again first dud story better second did mechanics better

Oh I'd forgotten that stupid game, I enjoyed it so damn much back in the day... I wonder if it's ported to android.

Me, a poly individual before watching the video: “what’s wrong with a harem?” Me, a disgusted poly individual after watching the video: “ohhhhhhh. Ohhh noooooooo” (Also the fixation on fat people is definitely a fetish. I cannot begin to imagine being that obsessed without something to it)

@khanlusa

2 ай бұрын

lmao but YEAH! 100% nothing wrong with being poly, but this ain't it 💀💀

I feel like there's a whole hell of a lot of bias in this review but at the same time the complaints are not only fair, well explained and understandable, but the solutions while again Biased as fuck are of the same if not even better quality to the complaints laid against the game and I'd honestly like to play the version of it you've described here which leaves me feeling conflicted I loved this game was it dumb no where near as funny or well made as the first one. yeah it was but for what it was it was damn good the harem worst I've ever seen in the game but for what it was it did the job the people in the harem ... only one was worth a damn beyond looks and the last hope for a second died as the tower heart was revived either figuratively or literally. Thematically they still worked tho and I for one think they worked well enough if one keeps the Ideas that 1. this game was always meant to keep things simple and 2. your playing the bad guy. On the one hand the game never really bothered me it just felt lacking when compared to the original. On the other hand your version sounds better even if I'd like the other 2 harem members to get the same treatment you described the first getting even if that meant they had to be completely reworked as for the fat jokes and other complaints I was never that put off by or even really paid that much attention to them but at the same time would not miss a lick of it hell it makes me wish some one would mod that into existence.

I think these games need a remake and some changes too.

@DoomUvb

2 ай бұрын

What do you mean by change?

@seangross5057

2 ай бұрын

OK, that input to save from the force game and put it in the second game and add minor changes to it

@DoomUvb

2 ай бұрын

@@seangross5057 oh ok

While i did enjoy the video since it was about a semi obscure game i used to play just like the game kept going on and on about fat people you kept going on and on about fat people jokes and just like the game it got tiring real fast. The really anyoing part was you trying to apply modern day values to a 2009 game lol

@milky2872

3 ай бұрын

Not only that but like... you're playing as an evil character. When kelda makes a joke about the governor's fat, he's also a colonizing slaver. Are we trying to defend that? I mean you club baby seals to death but the fat jokes are too far?

@grumpysphinx4911

2 ай бұрын

2009 IS modern day lol, it's not ancient history. People talked about the same issues at that time, criticizing fatphobia, sexism, racism, etc

@masterofthelag8414

11 күн бұрын

@@grumpysphinx4911 I mean... that's a decade and a half ago, at this point. It's not that long ago in the grand scheme of things but it's a long time and it's absolutely valid to argue that tastes and culture has changed quite significantly since then.

that game have the cringe manga humor along with the same cringe animations and i loved it hahahahaha . i need to buy it

I am all for diverse Overlords but I can’t stand halfassed work

i know, i'm late to the party. This writing gives me strong incel vibes and it's disgustingly flat.