Make sure to check out this documentary of why the devs who created Tomb Raider hated it! kzread.info/dash/bejne/mqedlraio8yYkqg.html

@NOFRILLS_GAMING

2 ай бұрын

Brilliant! totally loved this, well done! subbed, and I'll be watching more! Good stuff!

When I originally played Fable, I didn't even know about the hype and promises made by Peter before its release. So I had zero expectations, and playing it completely unbiasedly, was probably one of my favorite games ever back then (and still has a very special memory for me to this day) ☺

@strawberrylotlizard

2 ай бұрын

Same same I picked it up randomly.... Then I heard of Peter and his bs

@BrandanLee

2 ай бұрын

Same here. I picked it up and it straight up blew my mind. Never heard about it or saw it anywhere before that. Magic Carpet too! And Black and White! If I never knew, I'd think these games were made by the best devs on Earth. Fable 3 was my fav and until I looked it up, I have no idea anyone hated it.

@strawberrylotlizard

2 ай бұрын

@@BrandanLee loved black and white but he definitely dropped the ball on them too sadly

@Fazquel

2 ай бұрын

Same here, a friend loaded it up one day near the end of middle school for me. I was instantly hooked, the transforming good/evil character, the (at the time) gorgeous world and funny characters and cool stories. I would love to see Fable be made the way it was intended in some form some day but what we ended up with was iconic in its own right.

@tsiefhtes

2 ай бұрын

I heard the BS but I had been listening to the same over ambitious BS for every game that came out in the mid to late 90s so I discarded the BS and tried out the game with clear eyes. Fable is still one of my favorite game of all time.

Barely started watching, But - my dad worked on the same industrial estate as Lionhead in 2016 (in Guildford). Sent me photos of the place & everyone seemed to be always outside smoking and drinking coffee - a week later, Lionhead was closed down. Madness

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

Its crazy how fast it happens. Thanks for sharing! And watching!

@ChillCityBeats

2 ай бұрын

crazy story

@raiden72

2 ай бұрын

Video game programming seems kind of like a very cutthroat industry where you are now held to specific standards by rich people instead of figuring out new concepts and putting them into code. Video game programming has changed over time I imagine.

@JoyZoneYT

2 ай бұрын

​​@@raiden72 it is also a consumerist industry, where the end users define how soon they want things, leading to investors pushing deadlines up, unfinished content, and day 0/1 patches to fix the issues that they did not have the time to send to QA. Furthermore, QA and alpha/beta testing were important sides of the development process. Less and less alpha/beta builds are created and most devs playtest things themselves. The thing is, QA and alpha/beta testing give unknown parameters that the devs most likely omit in their playtesting rounds, which in turn help them correct oversights. Tbh, the entirety of the videogame industry is screwed, now that AI is there. People think it is the future, but it only toss "finished, but flawed" works that still need to be fixed. What was good about concept art was that midway through that phase, they went through multiple changes and versions. Now, to even generate the same type of artwork requires hours, when before, you only hired the artist whose artstyle meshed the best with your vision of the work, and they could make changes on the fly during a meeting. It sucks.

@xXLunatikxXlul

2 ай бұрын

110% ​@@raiden72

I didn't know it wasn't Lionhead that made the game. Peter Molyneux really took all that credit.

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

yup. shady dude

@yokai1235

Ай бұрын

he always does this he make big "promises" and the devs need to crunch to make those "promises" to be feasible thing and then Peter just throw then down the bus

@JaeLee83

Ай бұрын

Sounds like Elon

@Pixie1001.

Ай бұрын

To be fair, it makes a certain kind of sense - making random crazy promises about a game he wasn't even working on or all that involved with was pretty scummy, but the game probably did sell much better with the narrative that it was being developed by a proven studio. Like, for all he knew, the game might've been a massive flop, so he was putting his reputation on the line as well.

@noodlekeeper5150

3 күн бұрын

​@Pixie1001. That is fair. But he could have easily said "Well, we have a satellite studio that is the lead, but my team at Lionhead are working on the game as well." Or something like that. That way the Carters get some credit, but there is still the legitimacy of Lionhead's backing and support.

Fable was incredibly well-realized given the technical limitations of the era and the circumstances of its development. Its atmosphere was one of the most charming I'd ever played at the time. It handled the power fantasy aspect of the RPG genre incredibly well, too. I have fond memories of my secretly OP frying pan with its 5x mana augmentations, spending literally 100% of combat with time stop and shield going, spamming multi hit and multi arrow attacks all day long. Although, whichever dev that had the idea to make that annoying high-pitched sound whenever magic shield was on should have chosen something else

@Dominosmusic

2 ай бұрын

magic shield go crazy

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

Lolol yeah I dont have the info on that dev. The atmosphere for me was potentially the best part, Im a sucker for great immersion and overall tone in games and at the time Fable stood out so much. Thanks for watching!

@jacobesterson

Ай бұрын

To this day I firmly believe Fable to have one of the best "realized" atmospheres of any game, period. The music is masterful and the graphics hold up to this day, not because the graphics are _good,_ but because they fit the story book fairytale aesthetic so perfectly. Kinda like how Runescape's graphics are simultaniously terrible and yet genre defining.

@pointfrogg

Ай бұрын

@@jacobesterson Agreed, everything blended extremely well together to make a compact but MEATY experience. The story, the chocies(WHICH ACTUALLY INFLUENCED THE GAME) the way your morality affected your looks, the different personalities of the towns folk based on the region. That much attention to detail and game systems really is hard to come by in modern games.

@ZombieKitty321

Ай бұрын

@@jacobesterson 100% agree, fable 1's atmopshere cannot be topped, the menus the art the voice acting the music. Its all just so good. Fable 2 honestly hit it almost dead center as well.

What a story. Alongside Halo, it's a game that defined the original Xbox console. I loved that console. Thanks for the video.

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

Appreciate it! Yes Fable and Halo made that console. I'll never forget the bootup into those crazy green aesthetics it had

@jack25956

2 ай бұрын

So true. I got the original Xbox for 2 games. FABLE and Star Wars KOTOR

@JChaosMaster

2 ай бұрын

I really hope the new fable releases so it and halo infanity can redefined that Xbox legacy.

@darthkek1953

2 ай бұрын

Halo, Project Gotham Racing, Modern Warfare, Knights of the Old Republic & 2. Jade Empire. San Andreas. Rainbow Six. We shall not see their like again.

@DamianSzajnowski

Ай бұрын

​@@jack25956Didn't Republic Commando also come out on og Xbox?

Fable is such a special game. Hard to name another game that I played as a young adult that made me feel like a kid again

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

Same here! It was fantastic.

It's kind of a shame how Peter gave Big Blue Box literally no credit. I've been playing this game since I was a kid seen many interviews and discussions around it but never once have I heard of big blue box. I don't even really remember seeing their logo in the credits (Not saying it wasn't there, just not memorably enough for me to recall it) but I sure remember the opening where the guy in assassin armor stabs the ground and a burning lionhead emblem spews forth.

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

I just looked it up on youtube to check and their logo does appear right after the Lionhead guy lolol. I thought it wasnt there as well

@reffa2858

2 ай бұрын

​@@GameStudioLoreMandela effect.

@itchin4scratches

2 ай бұрын

@@reffa2858bad memory?

@jabroniandcheese9194

2 ай бұрын

That lionhead intro hit hard AF tho 😂

@ultimatesquatchington

2 ай бұрын

@@itchin4scratches Too much weed

*”Well if it isn’t the ol’ Chicken Chayser”* 👨‍🍳

@vlastelinprislic286

2 ай бұрын

"You chase chickens!"

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

Classic Fable line. Better be in the new game!

@claytonfrancy

2 ай бұрын

CHAYSERRRR

@lennywright5655

2 ай бұрын

That name followed me throughout my entire play through 😂

@BrandanLee

2 ай бұрын

Same, haha! It wasn't until anniversary edition I learned you could change it.

Me early in the video: Blue Box who? I followed Fable prerelease and played it through at launch. For me to have thought it was made by Lionhead all these years is wild. Peter Molyneux really did make himself and Lionhead synonymous with Fable in an excessive way.

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

He did. I believed it as well. That dude stabbing the earth and their logo coming up is all I remember. I recently went on youtube to rewatch the intro and sure enough, a quick little blue box animation comes up right after that

@MyUsualComment

2 ай бұрын

But the logo is in the opening credits and the developer names and faces are in the end credits. Since you have watch the entirety of the credits to get to the post-game (at least in the base game), you should be familiar with Big Blue Box and the Carters.

@justanotherwitposter1875

Ай бұрын

​@@MyUsualCommentdont tell me you actually think a normal person is going to sit through like 20 minutes of credits beginning to end and actually pay attention to the mountain of names and logos

@MyUsualComment

Ай бұрын

@@justanotherwitposter1875 I do. Especially when I really appreciate the game. People worked hard on something I enjoyed; the least I can do sit through the credits. Does that make me abnormal? Maybe. I honestly don't care.

@hamzaj1127

Ай бұрын

@@MyUsualCommentabnormal and I don’t got the patience but based

I just beat Fable for the first time the other day. You can tell they were extremely passionate and they really did make a genre defining game, especially for the time. It was a game I always intended to get around to and I’m glad I did. I think a lot of people don’t even know about Big Blue Box and just assume it was a lionhead game.

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

Exactly that. I didn't even know the full story until I started digging into the development of the game. It's pretty sad.

@j0nnyism

2 ай бұрын

Yea it’s really quite a good game. Considering the difficulties they had during development with too much feature creep they really pulled it out the box (forgive the pun)

@D3sdinova

2 ай бұрын

I always thought they were running support for Lionhead, not the other way around.

The first time I played fable it was hands down the most innovative, amazing game I'd ever played. I've beaten fable one probably 3 or 4 maybe 5 times. I haven't played it in quite some time, but after watching this I'm definitely doing another fable run in honor of all the hard work and sacrifice that was put into making this gem.

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

Thats awesome! I need to do the same. I don't think I've played it since it launched >

It doesn't surprise me at all that Peter Molyneux took undue credit for the game. The guy is a snake oil salesman. I never knew that Big Blue was the original developer of the game, which is a testament to how wholly Molyneux claimed ownership. While the level of crunch they ended up doing is bad, they did spend a long time developing this game, and as much as we want devs to be able to do everything they want to ultimately do in a game, there is a point where they do need to deliver. It sounds like they just wanted to keep building the game with no planned end date.

@Torgomasta

2 ай бұрын

I first read this comment thinking you were talking about Stefan Molyneux lmao

@brombombadil

2 ай бұрын

​@@TorgomastaLol I did the same when typing it out. I had to double check I had the right Molyneux.

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, they were definitely over ambitious. But from what I gathered, they weren't expecting the microsoft deadline at all, which ultimately I think is the reason they couldn't polish it or get it really to where they wanted. One of the quotes at the end of the vid, was one of the brothers saying that basically wasted years trying to implement things that were ultimately not needed or couldn't even get to work as well, so they knew.

Fable: The Lost Chapters on PC, was my favourite of the entire series, and imo, the best of the series as well.

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

I wish Fable launched with everything in the lost chapters, definitely would have helped it

@EnoYaka

Ай бұрын

my only issue with it on the PC is that there isn't controller support and you can't slow walk for rp purposes.. There is a mod that replaces the sneak animation with walking, but that's the closest you can get without playing fable anniversary. I hate anniversary though as it makes many characters more ugly, has sound glitches or changes that I don't like, and loses the overall charm TLC has imo.

@GhostManZero

Ай бұрын

@@EnoYaka If it helps, you can use steam input to map keys to gamepad buttons and play that way! It's how I played it on the steam deck!

The joys of executive meddling. Thanks for the in depth coverage.

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

Executive meddling is the best huh? Thanks for watching!

@mercster

2 ай бұрын

Yeah gosh, how awful, "getting the game out."

@ElliotKeaton

2 ай бұрын

@@mercster Rushing development because marketing wanted it out a year earlier than it would have released otherwise.

Man I miss Fable 1 and 2. Thank you for this in-depth look!

@GameStudioLore

Ай бұрын

appreciate it!

so this is why the sequels never turned out right. because Lion Head didnt even make the thing, they were just imitating Big Blue Box when they made the others.

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

I haven't done my research yet into the sequels, but I know dene did stay and work fully on Fable 2, but not 3. I will eventually do those videos as well to finish out the franchise. Thanks for watching!

@VencentCross

2 ай бұрын

@@GameStudioLore ah thank you for the clarification! i'm curious what percentage of Big Blue worked on each game and how that lines up with the heavy shifts in design as the games went on.

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

@@VencentCross well if you don't mind waiting a bit I will probably do Fable 2 after this next video 🫡

@VencentCross

2 ай бұрын

@@GameStudioLore yea sure, i'll subscribe and catch it when that vid comes out

@VITAS874

2 ай бұрын

​@@GameStudioLore but lion head created part 3, Peter even dont care about game.

No other game had a soundratck that gave me goosebumps everytime i fired up the game. Highly underrated score.

@GameStudioLore

Ай бұрын

yup. It has a really great feel to it. they did a great job

@EQOAnostalgia

4 күн бұрын

Absolutely.

This game was my entire childhood. I was obsessed with this game as a child.

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

It was great! Decent combat and funny!

here i was all these years just assuming fable was molyneux's brainchild lol

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

I did too. But as I did the research I was like, I gotta tell this story. Thanks for watching!

Fable as its name, feeled like a fairy tale The soundtrack The artstyle The ambient Its memomarable

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

It really is. The ambiance is what I remember most

@Eastonfection

2 ай бұрын

Fables aren’t fairy tales and this game is not a fable

@Psycorde

Ай бұрын

First OST I ever downloaded, I spent countless hours drawing while listening to it, completely immersed

I had no idea Peter Molyneux didn't create fable. Great video

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching! I mean he kinda helped, like 1% of ideas tho lolol

Fable 1 had the best combat, physics and general feeling out of all. In fable 2 melee fights felt clunky, cumbersome and gave little feedback. In fable 2 the magic system was drastically simplified, far less spells, and most felt the same. Simply moving around was much more efficient, responsive, and accurate in the first game too Fable 2 also felt much more modern in atmosphere compared to the first game. Fable 2 was still good though. But 3 took everything that made 2 worse, made it worse again, and removed even more. And Fable heroes, the journey, and legends were all just abosultely terrible.

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

Haha yeah it declined as it went on. Im doing Fable 2 next so I'll hopefully I find everything that went down

Bro was holding on to that hair lol This is in my top. 15 games of all time for sure. Top 5 for OST. Good video

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

Yeah fable is a core memory for me lol. And yeah Dene had wild hair, lol

Is this why the sequels didn't feel like Fable anymore?

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

I know dene still helped with the second one, but he did not on the third. I will cover Fable 2 after my next vid then do 3 soon after

@asyme9717

2 ай бұрын

Very different environment. I was an employee at BBB and then Lionhead from around 2001 to 2012ish. My... vague... memories were a bunch of things happening that moved the franchise in a different direction. Lionhead was kind of screwed after Fable came out. The other projects, Movies and Black and White 2, failed to sell well leaving the company in real trouble. Lionhead was burning cash and (from what I heard) was a month or two away from going bankrupt. The company was sold to MS (fairly cheaply but with all our debts being paid off). Once MS owned Lionhead things changed pretty quickly. MS wanted more Fable and pushed for everyone to focus on it. Lots more people got involved, lots more corporate speak, etc. The more steampunk tone was internal (I know John McCormack was instrumental in that and possibly Dene - I'm sure others but I forget who) and there was more a focus on named actors and so on. Peter seemed to want it to be more of a God game and REALLY wanted a dog (mutter) - because he likes pets and AI in games, believing players maintain an attachment to them. The setting changed to be more industrial but in an odd way. If the first game was a bunch of disparate people coming together and sort of jamming? And somehow creating a great sound? The sequels felt more like people fighting to get their own ideas in. Some fantastic stuff happened, but also a lot of frustration and people pulling and pushing against each other. Weird times (and great vid btw!)

@Psycorde

Ай бұрын

​@@asyme9717Thank you for your contribution to the game that shaped my childhood and inspired me so much. I'm playing Fable 2 on PC through Xenia emulator, only had PC as a kid and getting a modern console in my country at the time was practically impossible, especially with our income. It still retains the wonderful atmosphere I fell in love with. The dog I found to be an odd addition, ever since I played Fable 3 when it came out. Exploring magical world all by yourself gave the experience this wonderful feeling of cozy solitude. I'm getting used to the dog gradually, but it's different experience.

@Assimandeli

24 күн бұрын

@@asyme9717 I still find it hard to believe that Movies didn't sell well. That could've been the next Sims

I bought Fable in the first week. I still play and love it.

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

I haven't played it in so long. I really need to grab it and replay the game. Thanks for watching

Fable is the game that made me fall in love with RPGs. The ability to customize your character but also having every decision affect not only your character but the world around you was something I hadn’t seen before. I have such good memories from Fable and it’s following sequels. I don’t think any other game has ever left such an impact on me until Arkham City.

@GameStudioLore

Ай бұрын

Fable just had that..I dont even know the word. It somehow captured an emotion and memory ill never forget. It was literally magic

Fable was such an instrumental game in my childhood its still one of the gold standards for what a game should be to me to this day.

@GameStudioLore

Ай бұрын

Fable is great! i miss the era of fun and great games

Fable is actually my biggest comfort game, so it's one I replay pretty frequently. The main reason being its atmosphere and soundtrack. Great video

I miss Fable 2. A steam port would have been amazing

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

Maybe one day!

@Miasma707

2 ай бұрын

i still have it on my 360. preserve your copies man its just a matter of time before that game costs 300 dollars. old game prices are out of control and im taking about your mom and pop shops not gamestop 0.0

@itchin4scratches

2 ай бұрын

@@Miasma707you can dl on xbox series noob

@D3sdinova

2 ай бұрын

​@@Miasma707retail stores are less and less likely to have such games. See if you can still get psychonauts, only 50k were ever made across all consoles(barring PS4) i think.

@Psycorde

Ай бұрын

Look up Fable 2 on Xenia emulator. I'm playing through it on PC currently (which is wild) Make sure you patch it to 2x resolution or it will look like £ss There's a video on KZread to set it up, you'll need to torrent game's ISO

This is quality content. I think you're gonna be a big channel one day!

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

I appreciate that! Thank you for watching! Was stressed making this one lol. I love Fable

@claytonfrancy

2 ай бұрын

agreed

Fable was one of the first games I worked on as a game tester back in the day. This provided some context for some of the things and ways we were asked to test, and also how and why certain things in the game came to be. The year and a half of crunch really explains a lot on its own, but it's interesting to see some of the more specific aspects of how the game was developed.

I've only played so far into the game, but, even as a casual fan, I found this doc very engaging and informative. Pro job, thanks for putting all this together.

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

I appreciate that! I tried to make the story as engaging as possible without it just been info after info. Thanks for watching!

The biggest thing Fable had going for it was the incredible atmosphere. The world felt bigger and more mysterious then it actually was. All the other stuff that gets advertised as selling points, even at the time as a teenager, I found somewhat underwhelming. It was the sense of exploration that kept me going.

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

1000% It something I dont get from a lot of games now sadly. 90% of the reason I play games personally is for the world and. the ambiance. I just like chillin in a world that isn't RL lolol.

I love that game series. The humor, the dialogue, the npc’s, the storylines, the missions, weapons, armor, the tattoos, and the getting married and having a family and having ur way with ur wife or other women in the world. And as well as the music score. 👌🏼 It will always be a special game to me and absolute favorite.

where's my FRICKEN Acorn, Peter? I remember before the game actually came out, it was hard to imagine some of these concepts because they sounded so out there. I thought the game was fair enough in the end but I can understand why some people felt let down by it. Anyway, this documentary is fascinating. Thanks. The original original concept with the elements sounds better than "project ego" imo. I kinda think that title kinda messed with their perceptions. Like I remember them bragging about "yeah the choices in the game determine your character that you get to customize isn't that revolutionary" and I'm just like "no that's what every RPG is trying to do." I guess it's a case of "reinventing the wheel". I think it's right on the first principles on what makes an amazing RPG system, and great inspiration for any would be dev.

@VITAS874

2 ай бұрын

He talent, but lying to much...

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

Yes, Wishworld sounded amazing. I wonder if it's something they could pull off today? If Microsoft gave them an extra year, Fable would've been 10x better =( Also nobody forgets about the acorn lololol Thanks for watching!

Really love this story behind the scenes of the actual unsung hero’s who made this game. I think Fable has really stood the test of time. There is a certain charm to the world, the graphics. And the ambient orange glow over Evegthing that helps it even 20 years later to not only not look Dated. But also it’s very uniquely recognizable. All of the other fable games as well followed suit in this consistency

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

Indeed! For the time, the game really stood out. The atmosphere and the general feel of the game was very nice. Thanks for watching!

Honestly Fable 2 was what I started with and probably still my favorite but fable 1 is incredibly close, for the atmosphere, tone and setting it was such an amazing escape (both games) as a kid, I still have some love for fable 3, but the first two are still some of my favorite games of all time, and the intro to fable 2 gives me a warm nostalgic feeling everytjme

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

Love it! Ill never forget Fable 1. I hope the new game coming out can caption even half that feeling of the OG

This game is very special to me. I played it so much as a kid, and I still go back to it. I enjoyed everything about it, and I did repetitive things a lot, like killing guards over and over again, never getting bored of it. I remember somehow stopping guards from spawning in Oakvale for a while. I could type a lot more here but, this game is near and dear to my heart.

I'm loving the music choices you've got going. I do find myself being confused on if it's you, or a quote. Maybe something to let us know it's a quote before the very end of it. You also have a very nice voice for this.

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

You're right about the quotes. I didn't want to repeatedly keep saying, "Dene said to IGN" or something every single time lol. So I experimented, and I don't think it worked super well lol. I appreciate the feedback! I might try adding the quote as an image while reading it in the future for clarity. I'm glad you liked the music! It took me about 5 hours, finding the perfect sound I wanted and adding all of it for this video lol. Thanks for watching!

Really enjoyable and high quality video, subscribed. Would it be possible for you to put the sources you've used in the description for future videos? Would help for those interested in doing further research themselves.

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

I appreciate that very much! Also I still had the list I used, so I added them in the description. Thank you!

I loved Fable 1. I hate that they removed the extensive magic system and meaningful armor in favor of paper doll dress up, color matching puzzels, and lackluster boss fights. This series only got worse over time.

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

Yeahhhh. The microsoft deadline really screwed them over

Fable was a staple of my childhood. I loved every bit and bug in the game. The music has never left my ears

14:00 - 14:45 This is why fable was so special too me, it honestly felt exactly like that, i was always forced to be whatever the story wanted of me, and fable let me have my cake and eat it too with character creation

@GameStudioLore

Ай бұрын

Yesss, it was a dope concept that I wish more games would use

Really solid. Obviously a ton of effort went into this. There's a persistent issue you have to address for future efforts so you don't undermine the high quality and immense work: textboxes. You quote a ton of people, and only context makes clear that you're quoting someone. You already have it written down, so it's only a bit more effort to have a textbox slide/fade in with the text you're quoting and an attribution. It doesn't have to dominate the screen like the poster for a Matt Damon movie; subtitles are a design start. But with as many quotes as you have, it's kind of a necessity for clarity. Outstanding effort. Can't wait to see what else you produce. Well done.

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

You're absolutely right and it is something I will add to future videos. Thank you for watching

@Dominosmusic

2 ай бұрын

this is a smart idea @@GameStudioLore

Great video! I’ve been working on a Fable video that focuses mainly on analyizing the game but I briefly cover some of the development cycle for context as I’m covering all of lionheads game but it’s so cool how deep you went. Keep it up!

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

Appreciate it! Have fun playing Fable!

@erikmcswain

2 ай бұрын

@@GameStudioLore It was a mixed bag but always cool to explore childhood games.

Thank you, sir! I love fable but there’s not a lot of videos on KZread of it. I’ve been waiting for something like this for a while. 😂👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

I dont remember how i heard of fable back in the day, but i don’t remember anyone talking about it. I had no idea what to expect, and it blew my mind.

amazing quality, im shocked you dont have more subs

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

Thank you so much! The subs will eventually come =)

Great overview of the game's creation. It was a foundational game for me. I really like what you're doing here with the game dev history.

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

I appreciate that! Fable is one of those games that always be remembered! Thanks for watching!

Man it's crazy how all the games that made 5 year old me a gamer were under such insane amount of pressure to even be finished

@GameStudioLore

Ай бұрын

yeah! the game industry suckksssss in that regard, I dont think its any better tho lolol

This was one of the games that I have played at least 10 times when it came out. I was 12 years old and I was praising Molyneux for how genius and I was still devastated that many of the big promises had to be scrapped. I was too naive and young to realize that those promises were just hopeful lies. I'm glad that I have became more aware of interviews and gaming in general, and although Lionhead still gave me some of my favourite games of all time, now I am glad and grateful for everything that Big Blue Box did in the background.

Fable is by far one of the games that made the best memories for me, even tho I had a feel gameplay problems with it. As a Brazilian kid, I didn't know English and, for a long time, I got stuck at the beginning of the game because I didn't know how to get quests in the guild. But I still loved to play it around it anyway, the game just felt good to play. After scattering every playable area I could I finally understood how to get quests I was just amazed at how much more content was there. After a while I managed to beat the game, but man... I beat the game without running, yes, running, I didn't know how to run, I thought the "feet" button was supposed to kick and that it was not working, haha.

@GameStudioLore

Ай бұрын

dang thats wild! great determination! thanks for sharing!

Fable TLC was my favourite childhood game. Everything about it was perfect. Graphics, sounds, gameplay… haven’t seen a game like it ever since. Hopefully playground developers understand what players wish for and new fable lives up to expectations. I am so eager to see what they have in store for us.

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

me too! I am also afraid they are gonna modernize it with microtransactions and an unfinished game

@Psycorde

Ай бұрын

I have no hope for Playground's Fable. It's going to be modernized in all the ways you don't want, if what you're seeking is escaping into a fantasy world from daily matters.

@GameStudioLore

Ай бұрын

@@Psycorde well Fable 2 already had, female and male characters, gay marriages, cross dressing, and sex with multiple partners, so which modernize ways are you suggesting will be bad? Skin color?

@EQOAnostalgia

4 күн бұрын

@@GameStudioLore ffs, maybe that's how YOU played it buddy. Not us.

@GameStudioLore

4 күн бұрын

@@EQOAnostalgia clearly was just mentioning what was already in the game. Dunno why you need to make it an us vs you issue. Don't like it, don't use them.

I love Fable to this day, the brothers got it right. It's horrible what the team went through but games like Fable and Fallout New Vegas are shockingly elaborate and impressive years after the fact despite the unrealistic standards and time constraints set upon the devs

Great job researching and making this. I love this kind of content.

@GameStudioLore

Ай бұрын

I appreciate that! Im glad you enjoyed it!

Its a real shame as the fable games went on they last a bit of the soul that made it good. Now we got the fable reboot and just fable in name only

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

Yeah the franchise could have been so much more. As for the reboot, It might not be terrible, not much to go on right now except for the....interesting announcement trailer

@zwei3179

2 ай бұрын

@@GameStudioLorefrom what i can tell the creators really don't understand the game the announcement trailer alone didn't gibe me a single vibe of the old fable Like yes fable had some britsh humor, but that was for a very small part of the side quest The main story was a tragic hero like storyline for all three. So to kinda go this the hero is a dude bro type of storyline is just agh Granted it could change for a story trailer, but if their story trailer is the same, as their announcement one then i got zero hopes for it

@puffnisse

2 ай бұрын

We don't know anything about the new one except a 2 minute trailer. You can't really gather anything from that.

@johnsmith-xw7hv

2 ай бұрын

​@@puffnisseWOW TAKE MY MONEY

@VITAS874

2 ай бұрын

Peter is like Todd Howard unfortunately. Peter always want make new and new... and this causes to closing a studio.

"We are going to outspend everybody and win." - We still waiting boys

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

haha I laughed when I read that as well.

Fable is a fantastic game, I still play it on occasion. The soundtrack, funny british humor, combat system, and overall feel of the game was something truly unique. I never paid attention to what developers were promising about the game so I had no preconceptions about what it should be, I simply picked up the controller and had a blast. To this day I still enjoy the way combat and magic works in this game, the controls are literally awesome, I love being able to cycle through my spells and use what i need for any given situation, I've yet to find a game that has such a natural / streamlined feel to the combat system while simultaneously allowing you access to a wide variety of attacks at any given moment.

@GameStudioLore

Ай бұрын

indeed. The music is sooo good. COmbat was effective, not the most difficult but it was implanted very well

Fable genuinely changed my life. Incredible game ❤

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

Same! im still searching for that same feeling from playing it the first time

I love Fable but I wish we could have seen what Big Blue Box could have made given more time.

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

Same! Def would've been amazing to see

you killed the quality! amazing

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

aye thankkkss

Amazing video! It's great to see an actual documentary that goes into details that a lot of other videos haven't before, such as the evolution of WishWorld and the even their name "thingy" which I believe comes directly from the Lionhead Dev Diaries for the game. I have been wanting to make something like this for a while, where it goes more in-depth about how their wishworld ideas tied into Fable and Fable: TLC, but I don't think I could have ever made something this well made and thoroughly researched.

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

I appreciate that Avarice! It was a lot yeah, a ton of info to sift through. Honestly, ive been taken back by the reception. Also, I cant believe how much Fable stuff is on your channel, I dunno how or where you even get half of that lolol It's a really good vault of info and fun!

@AvariceOverlord

Ай бұрын

@@GameStudioLore Honestly dude, I would hate to think the effort you put into this. If you aren't proud of it, then you really should be!

Time to put on the Fable OST all day again.

I was like 10 years old when fable came out and I remember Peter Molyneaux being a bit of a running gag the way he over promised and under delivered often. Remember the fable 2 cinematic had freaking dinosaurs in it....

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

I had no idea about him, and i was 15 lolol.

@thebag1981

2 ай бұрын

Dinosaurs? I worked on the game & have no memory of this.

@reffa2858

15 күн бұрын

​@@thebag1981kzread.info/dash/bejne/qGSDw6Ssh9fddsY.htmlsi=Ql1nFCFt8qTZgzGg At around the 1 minute mark. I always thought it was a dinosaur. But some people are saying its a Balverine. It doesnt look like a balverine to me.

@thebag1981

13 күн бұрын

@@reffa2858 oh I see what you mean. The body is very much a balverine but the head/jaws definitely aren’t. They look more like an alligator to me, but I can definitely see where you get dinosaur from. I don’t know who made that trailer, the later ones were made by Blur.

Great video, never really knew any of this and loved Fable. I’m surprised how much public info there is on the games development available, especially it all contradicting that Fable is a Peter Molyneux game

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

Yeah Fable was documented pretty well. Some games arent, so its really hit and miss. Luckily Fables does, so molyneux can't be a thief :P

Hehe some of the bits like the demo in a week had me chuckling. Nicely done video, good stuff :)

@GameStudioLore

25 күн бұрын

Thank you so much!

Some of the characters were so good. Just enough to be impactful and memorable.

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

Yup! Good AI out there

Didn't know Danny Elfman did the music for Fable. Wild.

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

yeah i actually freaked out cuz i love Danny Elfman. Its crazy where people pop up sometimes. Thanks for watching!

Love this type of content.

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

The thing i really like about Fable, and sorta Fable 2, is that it feels like it could be a Legend of Zelda spin-off.

I played it through multiple times growing up and I love it.

fable, a distant memory

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

Really is. I miss it

@sixten8493

2 ай бұрын

Also missing it very much, but for me because of ... something ... the Steam version of Fable Anniversary has been unplayable for YEARS. I've tried on three PC:s, crashes before I see the start menu. Every time. No mods. Tried everything. Last thing I remember playing was the bandit camp hassle.

Lionhead studios made one of mt childhood favorite pc games. Black and white 2 which i had so much fun plsying and still enjoy conceptually

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

I might do a few Black and White vids in the future! I never played them myself, but would love to learn about them

@Detective_Bonghits

2 ай бұрын

@@GameStudioLore it was a really cool attempt at a grandiose idea that in today's age could be done times 100. Like an Rts/civ/god sim where you have a pet that's almost as strong as you as you. It did nothing except the god stuff exceptionally well but made enough of an effort that it was really fun especially back when those limitations were in place and it was a completely unique original idea for a game I haven't seen before

Good job getting all this footage! thanks man goodluck

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

Thank you! youre welcome!

I picked this up for $20 from Walmart randomly because the cover was enticing to a 7 year old me. I was a little too young but both of my older brothers and I ended up being life long fable fans from that random purchase. This is so interesting to learn Fable’s history

@GameStudioLore

Ай бұрын

Dang. The cover is really cool tho lol. It just had a pull to it for some reason, try playing it again

I love this game. I wish someone would make a spiritual successor,

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

I mean we're getting the new Fable? Lolol but in all seriousness I hope that game doesn't suck. Might be the last chance for Fable in this era

@RaewCZ

2 ай бұрын

@@GameStudioLore sadly, I'm don't have high hopes for the new fable...

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

@@RaewCZ yeah. It's iffy. I try to stay optimistic lol

@vj7248

2 ай бұрын

Dragon's Dogma 2 will probably be the closest tbh 😅

"The crunch culture back then was extremely rampant." Hmm

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

Almost like it still exist today =(

@supabass4003

2 ай бұрын

It was worse back then because alot of the publishers were still in the 1980s mindset where they would expect developers to crank out a game in less than 12 months.

Now i want to play TLC! (Nice menu aesthetic, and the "normal" hairstyle isnt glitched)

STILL LOVING THIS VIDEO. NEED MORE.

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

I appreciate that! New vid dropping tomorrow and then the next one will be on fable 2 🙃

Nice. These game devs got some crazy hair, respect

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

Yeah homie dene is wild lol

I still vividly remember playing Fable for the first time and breaking a random pot or box and the game telling me I'd been evil for doing it... Considering I had already played hours of Morrowind by this point, I couldn't help but be disappointed by what I got with Fable. A silly morality system, fart jokes, wild promises that weren't delivered...

@joewatts2940

2 ай бұрын

Exactly this. I commented saying something similar, but you articulated it perfectly

@AnMComm

2 ай бұрын

The worst part is that all of these promises were made by the guy who didn't even see the thing.

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

Yeah Morrowind was a different level. If microsoft gave the team another year or 2 I think it would have realized more of its potential

What an amazing content, would love to see some more.

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

Its coming! and thank you

I remember when a preview for Fable played on X-Play (I believe that's what it was called on TechTV) and as Adam Sessler was describing it, it was the coolest thing I ever heard of. Even with all the compromises, Fable and Fable 2 remain two of my favorite games ever.

Damn bro, cite your sources on screen or just use a bibliography system. Otherwise great video! - Peter Molyneux told IGN

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, I"ve gotten a few comments on this lol. I will have it on screen in the future. Thanks for watching. I did laugh from end of your comment lolol

@Yixdy

2 ай бұрын

@@GameStudioLore I'm glad you laughed instead of being mad, it was all in good fun and genuinely me trying to help. Good luck bro, subbed

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

@@Yixdy haha nah I have a pretty good sarcasm radar. I appreciate it!

It doesn't sound like they hated Fable It sounds more like they just hated the struggles they went through during the crunch (as well as peter stealing their thunder) Next time consider making a more accurate title please

@GameStudioLore

Ай бұрын

I personally find the title fine. In the intro I explained that the brothers asked molyneux for help which led to them losing their sanity and recognition and I state its a story of ambition, teamwork and crunch, which laid the entire foundation of the video. A title on YT is supposed to garner curiosity, and get a click (just the game) which i believe mine did and it was not clickbait. They did hate it, and although I never explicitly say it was the game, the intro and everything backs up the real story, If you indeed watched the entire video, then it was a good video and i appreciate you watching it all the way through. But I believe my title is accurate. cheers!

I recently replayed this game as an adult and it is still a beautiful experience, I’ll get my kids to play it as well

Fable 1 was amazing. Great video review. One of the best in a while

You should tighten your script up a lot more; you had FAR TOO MANY instances where you said a quote, and then maintained a steady frequency of "So & So said to Whomever" syntax patterns after each one. It feels You have promise, but fix and tighten the script issues and you'll go much further for your content.

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

Yeahhhh. This has been said a few times. I appreciate the feedback! I'm still fairly new to long scriptwriting and story telling so I will def fix it for future vids. Thank you

@insanejughead

2 ай бұрын

@@GameStudioLore One of the most common and effective ways to circumnavigate this issue is to just have a screenshot of the quote with the part you're reading being highlighted. Be sure to include the source and person quoted in smaller text underneath. That way, you can keep your vocal cadence, and you're allowed more freedom to transition one idea into another, even if it's a secondary or tertiary quote from another source you have. I will come back to this video tomorrow or the day after, because I see you are interested in growing and taking helpful criticism with a grain of salt. Stay awesome and humble, my man!

Dang, this makes me hate Peter Molyneaux even more. It wasn't just him disappoting and lying to fans and customers. He stole from his friends and employees.

@VITAS874

2 ай бұрын

But he have talent. You never see game experiments like black and white, populys. No one can achieve same experiments in games..

@Cyberweasel89

2 ай бұрын

@@VITAS874 The idea of the "lone genius" is largely a myth. Even for Black and White, Molyneux had people working for him who made the magic happen.

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

I mean he did have good ideas but like weasel said, he had a team helping him and contributing

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

Yup this!

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, I'm sure hes a good dude. I just don't think he can help himself when all the lights are on him

I never knew the full story until now. I'm glad that I now know the full story behind this game that I have so many great memories of. Despite the rocky development and release I hope everyone who actually worked on the game is doing well despite it all

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

Its a pretty interesting story really. They still pulled it off, for the most part.

Never played this game. (I had a PS2), but I distinctly remember that cover art! Great vid!

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

aye i appreciate that! If you get a chance, should check it out on pc

I like this topic, subscribing for more game studio lore

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

I appreciate that! Thank you

Hey man just wanted to say i commed you for keeping on the grind this long without getting the attention and views your content deserves. Im sure you dont want to hear another person say "just keep at it" but i find it impossible that if you keep putting out this good of content that you wont find success eventually. All you need is the algorithm to look your way once. I think what you do hear with the behind stories of how games were made is a good fit for you.

@Dominosmusic

2 ай бұрын

I agree

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

I appreciate that a ton! Thank you! Its rough yeah, but every video I make a tiny bit better! Slowly but surely

This is the game that made me a real gamer

The premise for Wishworld is very similar to the Traveller's Gate trilogy by Will Wight it seems. Person gets powers, the powers are tied to a realm where the magic they leverage "resides", they can travel the realms using gates. When traveling their realm they unlock new powers and skill by completing challenges or finding artifacts. Some example of realms in the book are a giant snow tower that reaches forever, a city of light, and one is just straight up an large mansion with each new room being a test to progress your skills further, while the house trains you by constantly trying to kill you, even while sleeping.

Fable is still one of the most innovative RPGs out there. It does so many cool things with its world and NPCs that modern games just don't come close to. Even if it didn't live up to all its ambitions, it's still way ahead of its time. I'm hoping the new Fable will live up to that legacy, but I also have my doubts.

@VITAS874

2 ай бұрын

Modern games only know to steal your money.

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

I feel the same. Fable was so good, although not as good as it were supposed to be, but that's ok. It still did a lot of cool things. For the new one, It's either gonna be really good or really bad

@VITAS874

2 ай бұрын

Not good to delete comment...

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

@@VITAS874 who deleted a comment?

If you weren't there in 2004 it's hard to state just how much hype this got pre-release, and just how disappointing it turned out to be. It's not that it was bad, it was just... so much less than promised. the graphics, animation, music, all fantastic, and there were clearly some novel technical challenges to overcome. The morality system was a joke (you could cancel out murdering a human by killing evil wasps, for example), the story flimsy, the gameplay OK - it was... OK.

@GameStudioLore

2 ай бұрын

Yeah if you look at the promises at what Molyneux was making, Fable was a horrible game. But if you take the original idea of what Fable intended to be, I dont think it was terrible. It still should've been much better, but I chalk it up to Microsofts hard deadline.

Always love to see XSI Softimage running somewhere in the background.

Great video. Just a note though: the format [narration] [quote] "said [person]" works only in books and not in video form. I was confused most of the time onn what you were talking about.