Warning about Horror actually being horror is wild. What did we think it was? Comedy?

@khanlusa

Ай бұрын

What's really wild is getting upset over a content warning when if you're so big and brave and unbothered... what does it matter?? Some people will happily watch Splinter but avoid watching the comparatively less gory Autopsy of Jane Doe because they have pet cats and don't want to see cat's in pain/dying. Consider you are not the only person in the room who matters and drink your damn water.

@SDRlegacy

Ай бұрын

@@khanlusa Snowflake

@NunchukuPro

Ай бұрын

The pin is such a fucking mic drop you’re amazing

@deadpilled2942

Ай бұрын

I thought this game might've been satire, but it seems to be...well...a lot.

@littlebighead4482

Ай бұрын

can you hear the pebbles rolling around in that empty head whenever you move it?

I am not kidding when I say Fear & Hunger handles the concepts of SA and Sadomasochism with more tact than these games lol

@khanlusa

3 ай бұрын

I did enjoy Supereyepatchwolf's video on the first game 👌

@bimates2690

3 ай бұрын

These games do seem more on the certain 18+ side of things. Basically, the “artists/writers’ barely disguised f*tish” imo lol. Nothing wrong with it, I think they should be more honest tho.

@BenWard29

3 ай бұрын

In my view, both these games and F&H are using SA & S&M on a very surface level. These seem to want to do the 80s horror movie thing about scaring you and then arousing you. You get to see monster, then boobs; repeat for 75 min. F&H is using these themes as an aesthetic- a very effective and disturbing aesthetic, but still just an aesthetic. Neither treats these themes with any real weight or care. They both feel exploitative to sexual trauma and non-mainstream sexual expressions. As an example of a film that handles some of these themes with much more empathy, the film “Shame” is a look at the very complicated subject of sex addiction. I feel a human connection in something like “Shame” or even the much grittier French film “Irreversible”.

@eduardochavez7889

3 ай бұрын

@@khanlusaIf you don't mind spoilers, wormgirl has a very long video on both FH games which pretty much follows a full playthrough, very recommended

@NeoVault_

3 ай бұрын

This. F&H is the only game that handles this subject right, while also being interesting.

It's pretty funny/ironic that "mature" so often ends up meaning "childish", isn't it.

@jeremyrichard2722

3 ай бұрын

Well, this is one of the conundrums of attempting things like public ratings systems. Thing like humor and taste in horror and such can vary greatly. Silly, immature, and campy things can entertain a lot of people just for being that way while having extremely serious and disturbing subject matter. A lot of stuff with extreme levels of sex, violence, and depravity is funny to a lot of people when presented in certain ways. What's more a lot of people think it's funny when something that is blatantly absurd, is handled with deadpan seriousness (some could argue most normal Americans see most current year left wing politics this way, and the rest of the normal world sees left wing politics this way even more so. A lot of the people they laugh at are being laughed at specifically because they take such absurd, fringe, stuff seriously, even with the subjct matter being 'serious' their take on it and attitudes is hilarious. To put it into perspective, for anyone who read this. Some "extreme" media exists in part to create an actual visual of something so absurd it would never happen. People believing it could happen, except maybe in some kind of weird situations with a different context and wanting to take it seriously also becomes funny. In the real world for example there have been sex cults, and occult societies and so on, and something like the "Lust" series for example does a really campy version of what blending all of that stuff together and having the occult be real, treats it deadpan, and that's sort of the appeal. It's also a kind of offhanded slam on moralists on both sides of the spectrum and designed to get their goats (previously these guys were right wing, now they are left wing) because a lot of them have it in their brain somewhere that stuff like this could happen if wrong think was not stomped out, and the game are in some way showing how silly the whole thing is. I mean, having talked to some fans, a lot think the idea of say there being a portal shaped like a vagina in a dimension even older than humanity, with HP lovecraft tentacles around it is hilarious, because why would something like that.... older than the species it resembles, even exist. Yet the people who are going to freak out about these concepts are never even going to think it through. I would call that series more "camp" than outright parody, but I think most people will get what I'm saying, it's doing a lot of things at the same time. It's designed, knowing who it's offending, and you have to understand those people need to be offended and shown to be the clowns they are, even for people who really aren't into campy horror games, as anything short of this just let's them have more power and move on to more and more things. It's sort of like how the appeal of "Saw" or "Hostel" (which is sort of a misdirect, and blows chips) to a lot of people is because both can create a weird kind of contradictory suspension of disbelief and utter absurdity. In "Saw" for example part of the point is they can go into these rants about an ultra sadistic serial killer who is actual a genuine humanitarian trying to help people, and you can sort of get into the unreality of it, while also thinking "you know, this is kind of insane in a dumb way, but still oddly fun" (well if you like horror). See, it's sort of like how leftists in particular right now get upset about ideas like sexualized torture killers and how "some things must always be taken seriously", and they miss that they are part of the gag when people do stuff like this. See to normal people, if you want to hurt or kill someone for revenge or whatever, your just going to say shoot them and then dumb them in an incinerator or dump them in a creek or bury the body in the woods somewhere. The logistics of setting up these scenarios are pretty daunting, which is why it pretty much doesn't happen, and when people have generally tried it they have gotten caught due to the sheer number of variables. It's why things like snuff flicks and red rooms do not exist, and likely never will exist... beyond the lack of an actual, interested, audience, who would also have the money to make it viable if the problems could be solved. The number of details your average work of "torture porn" that drives the left into a mouth frothing rage glosses over (which smart people realize) is staggering, including very basic ones. Likewise when any details are covered, typically it's done by our ridiculous killer having ridiculous resources invested in getting their jollies off. The problem with that latter one is that if someone really wanted to do that and had the money they could invest a fraction of it to just go to some shithole country and pay to murder someone. A lot of parents will sell their children really cheap in large parts of the world. It's sad, pathetic, and not all that exciting like a movie, but that would be the real version, and likely how it's done. I mean instead of "Hostel", a business like that might just have some boat or platform out in international waters, and then just get their "Talent" by buying people from third world countries (corrupt official paid to arrest some pretty girl under false charges, and then giving her to you when she's sentenced to die for immortality of some sort anyway for example). The sick thing is, there's very likely ways of doing stuff like that where it effectively wouldn't even be illegal due to not being in any national territory, and having paperwork for an execution from a country where torture is legal (a really crappy one). No one does it probably because there is no market for it. It's why we don't have a corporation like "Snuff International" contracting out to privatize the prison systems of shithole countries due to actually being able to make the fortune by selling horrible rapes and execution on the internet.... crazy, but think about it. If this was viable as a business, guaranteed someone would have made "Snuffcatraz" close to some craphole country, just on the edge so as to be outside of any national juristifiction, but close enough to viably be protected by their warlord business partners. We'd be getting ads for the next pay per view murder or red room here on youtube, and with the greenbacks rolling in companies like Google would likely be partners and present different. They don't, not because of morality, but because there is no money in it.

@Annonimous1000

3 ай бұрын

@@jeremyrichard2722 You wrote a college thesis in response. This isn’t me making fun of you or anything i genuinely find it impressive.

@karazakiakuno4645

3 ай бұрын

Controversial, but such 'thesis' are the only worth reading comments in general.@@Annonimous1000

@somethingclever4297

3 ай бұрын

​@@karazakiakuno4645because talking a lot is a clear sign of being well researched. It can't ever just be someone who doesn't know how to structure their thoughts in a clear and concise way.

@nonamegiven.9501

3 ай бұрын

@@jeremyrichard2722 I *think* I understand? I don't agree, and honestly, the fact you included comments about politics and sensitivity doesn't help. It's hard to agree when your point seems to be "people take fiction too seriously" but you then type a rant which goes so far to include mocking left-wing politics and hypotheticals that honestly, probably exist in some regard. I can't help but feel you are more concerned with people's reactions than the subject you discuss.

lmao it’s The Call of Cockthulhu

@red_nothin

3 ай бұрын

Oohhhh it could've been the Cock of Cthulhu!!

@empyrea_2546

3 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂

@StarboyXL9

3 ай бұрын

*dick tentacles*

@JollyWanker

3 ай бұрын

That sounds like a bad porn parody title lmao

@NA-AN

2 ай бұрын

@@JollyWankerit’s almost definitely a bad porn parody that exists somewhere.

Luustgar is only one degree more subtle than just calling it "Fuck Dimension"

@khanlusa

2 ай бұрын

Honestly if they just called it The Fuck Dimension that would've at least made me laugh

@Dreigonix

2 ай бұрын

I’m doing my own rewrite and calling it Lustgard- a definite Human Attempt To Parse The Name.

@lakshaykochhar6799

2 ай бұрын

Honestly, now that I think about; the developers behind whatever this is, had a golden opportunity to create a satire based on horror tropes and they debaunched it.😂

@jehoiakimelidoronila5450

2 ай бұрын

Was going for a new style of horror games inspired by this that I'll call "cosmic comedy", among the "comedic horror" for some contrast on the horror genre

@LavaCreeperPeople

2 ай бұрын

Still coomer garbage anyway, lol

These games kind of fascinate me because I have no idea who they are for. It's not sexy, it's not scary, and there's not really an interesting story. Some of the visuals are nice, but unoriginal. And video game intercourse will never cease to be hilarious and awkward.

@gabbonoo

3 ай бұрын

probably for those with an emotional overinvestment in a niche genre made at a low point in pursuit of escapism. Probably followed by an episode of heavy sunk cost fallacy resulting in an oversimplified positive review after they endure finishing the game... (this was me with isometric ARPGs minus the "niche genre")

@TechnoticPlate

3 ай бұрын

I could assume that its for people who unironically enjoy movies such as A serbian film or Cannibal Holocaust for "those" scenes specifically. Its a difficult fact to accept, but an audience for this does exist (has been a for long time). The human mind is truly something...

@ComicalConqueror

3 ай бұрын

I think maybe they are just not very skilled writers. They want to emulate the psychosexual vibes of summer break slasher movies and jam them together with creepypasta shit and they are not good at writing either of those things yet.

@aynasandnes6245

3 ай бұрын

I don't know, I felt pretty terified being chased around the hotel by "leather daddies" 😂

@user-cq4cj6zf2t

3 ай бұрын

I suggest that these are also for duder with beer who plays it with friends for lulz and then wrote sarcastic/ironic comment. I'm this sort of type myself, who buy explicitly bad games like "Hentai vs Furry" or smth on sales just to kek on it.

Imagine if Amnesia 2 was instead titled: Amnesia: A Machine for Eternal Fucking

@khanlusa

3 ай бұрын

oh noooooo 😭😂

@DakkaNah2619

3 ай бұрын

Everything’s the same but all of the “pigs” are just regular humans with the bdsm nose hook thing

@gasmonkey1000

3 ай бұрын

It's Amnesia but Slaanesh has entered chat, Alexander's voice lines are replaced with Billy Harrington quotes and audio recordings, the monsters are daemonetes, and Daniel did something worse. Like a miniature adaption of Fulgrim in one human body

@LeonardoStupidKenway

3 ай бұрын

Imagine in amnesia rebirth if (spoiler alert) tasi's child didn't die becayse of an illness, but because of a miscarriage and the deal that the empress (or whatever her name was) was trying to make resulted in her impregnating tasi.

@juliomillan1016

3 ай бұрын

Would play

I usually don't care for youtubes ads, but the placement of one for cleaning supplies right after, "Willard was right. Let's FUCK!" Was comedic gold

@Pixal_Dragon

2 ай бұрын

Right after “Willard was right. Let’s-“ I got an ad. It then came back to “- fuck!” And the video went on from there

@CD-77

Ай бұрын

This kinda reminds me of a video I watched where a guy made a Pathfinder character sheet for XP to Level 3. I think the guy who made video is called Nonat1s. He gave Jacob (aka XP to Level 3) the spell Similacrum, which I think is used to summon a monster. If you summon a succubus, which also has Similacrum, you can keep using the spell. I think the succubi can transform or something like that? It’s been a long time since I wanted the video itself. At one point, Nonat1s was saying something about how Jacob was coming for us all… and I got an ad in the middle of it. So the video ended up going like this: “Jacob and his clones are coming for us? They’re coming for your- Dawn power wash dish soap” This had me cackling for a good minute.

@lakshaykochhar6799

Ай бұрын

This is probably the only video, where I was relieved that there was an ad.

@Genos462

Ай бұрын

After that last line, I got an add for the Chris Pratt Garfield movie.

@deinnydoes5356

Ай бұрын

The ad I got was Lily's garden and her saying "I can't stand her". Perfectly aligned

"Mature Horror" is code for : troubled experiences with sex, which the creator is not fully sure whether to be aroused by or terrified by.

@BasedOverflow

3 ай бұрын

Devs were definitely self indulgent with this one, the games were basically just their not-at-all disguised fetish with the cringiest edge on top 💀

@thepinkestpigglet7529

3 ай бұрын

How to do this right: Silent Hill 2

@TheBoeboe

2 ай бұрын

or too horny dev who doesnt understand the basic concept of consent.

@dr.vikyll7466

2 ай бұрын

​@@BasedOverflow it was written with one hand

@godzillazfriction

Ай бұрын

oh no more of the ol' set of perceived standards that you have in regards to what's apparently 'mature' and not 'mature' - but also trying to rectify the contrived meanings of what's 'mature' and what's 'adult' and how apparently they don't correspond in 'meaning' because once again, that's your perceived set of standards to how you can determine and objectify the truth in the meaning of 'mature' and what's not mature as well as bringing in a paradoxical term to correlate with the concept of 'maturity'... so apparently, these games have 'very surface level' of presentation of such topics, but you know what is funny, is that you're comment/take/explanation/elaboration or whatever is also pretty 'very surface level' when it comes to your set of perceived standards especially with (i think almost) everyone here in this video, which includes the KZreadr too, against the seemingly 'very surface level' of presentation and showcase, to which i point out... why can't something that seems to be presented, and showcased with 'simplicity' then can't be exemplified with whatever nuance that comes to be out of its presentation and showcase..? if you want to 'criticise' the games/movies for doing this then why can't you 'criticise' - reality then..? if you can't comprehend nor differentiate nor try to gain an outlook on different perspectives, then you're maybe better off not delving in these types of topics at all with how much (and not just you) it irks your set of perceived standards to what and how its supposed to be 'handled'... gotta love how you and the Hive-Mind here is able to go on a bandwagon, and determine what 'mature' & 'immature' means in actuality, when unironicly it just exemplifies the level of volumes that a certain 'perception' will hold and get in the way of making a video that supposedly 'criticises' against the game for being 'immature' shock-slop with poor handling of 'complex themes' - it's always the survivors/victims/LGBTQ wannabe types that want to determine in its objective form of how to 'handle these complex themes' in juxtaposition of a perception that sets a certain standard of how it's supposed to be 'handled' and how it shouldn't be... its also paradoxical that there are ppl in the comments who criticise the games to be 'immature' shock-slop, but then spew out something that you found 'funny' which isn't far off to the type of 'immature' or childishness that you're going against in this video.

there's this one mission in cyberpunk 2077 where you have to rescue a lady from this dingy basement that is basically a snuff film factory (i think they're called XBDs in the lore). and despite the mission not showing ANYTHING violent whatsoever, the way it's described, the titles of some of the XBDs (like 'acid bath 2' and 'no limbs no problem') and the computer notes talking about all the actors they have 'lost' is 100x more disturbing and effective than whatever gore-porn these games are trying to do, without even showing anything. actually well done 'disturbing' stories like that work the best when they leave the viewer's imagination to shudder in horror about how awful it could be.

@vennicerunnos

3 ай бұрын

On my first playthrough that mission was the moment my stealthy Non-Lethal approach ended.

@gratuitouslurking8610

3 ай бұрын

To make it worse, SPOILERS * * * While V definitely has reasons to track down Christine prior, thanks to the whole Relic thing, I don't think the average player would want what happens to her in the end to happen for several reasons. The whole Judy sidestory, romance or not, is an interesting and mature take on sexwork in general IMO and some of the horrors that comes from it in the cyberpunk world.

@Malaclypse_the_Third

3 ай бұрын

With you there. Scavs don't deserve mercy, even the downed ones get finished off.@@vennicerunnos

@Revenant-oq9ts

3 ай бұрын

To be fair, gore porn can still be done maturely. Like the first Outlast. But it's not violation for the sake of it. It's violation as an introduction into what the characters are all about. Dr. Trager comes to mind.

@NotAGoodUsername360

3 ай бұрын

I'd be much more disturbed with titles like "Tear Her A New One" in that context, tbh.

Of all the methods I've seen small devs use to avoid having to animate faces, setting the game in an Eyes Wide Shut masked sex party is one of the more clever ones.

@plugshirt1762

3 ай бұрын

I can fault their writing but not their creativity lmao

@Ckoz2829

2 ай бұрын

It’s been done before in games like Chernobylite, but I feel like it especially helps in this game. It’s bad enough that all you see is SA and gore, but imagine putting a face to that. Imagine having to animate that. And imagine the worst Elder Scrolls puppet looking face during all those scenes of debauchery and gore. Masks were the only right call this game had lol.

@lakshaykochhar6799

2 ай бұрын

​@@plugshirt1762 I wish that they had use those platinum-made-brain-cells for writing instead.

@morp9012

2 ай бұрын

@@Ckoz2829 wow never thought i would see chernobylite being mentioned anywhere

@peytonmac1131

18 күн бұрын

@@plugshirt1762 I can fault their creativity. Aside from using a mask to hide the faces, they don't really seem to have explored the setting they created to it's fullest.

I also love how the games just GLOSS over the fact that the chick sacrificed a LITTLE BABY just to... just to get off? What the fuck?

@en2336

3 ай бұрын

well she was forced/brainwashed into doing so...p sure in the happy relationship w her fiance she could get off just fine but the cult wanted to cuck him

@JTBringe

3 ай бұрын

It do be like that sometimes

@Thatonedudeyouknowtheone

3 ай бұрын

many such cases

@diediedice

3 ай бұрын

This is what anti abortion fanatics believe women love to do lmaooooo

@bobskywalker2707

3 ай бұрын

Bro acting like people don’t do this irl

Sooo... these games mainly function on shock value and hentai logic. Got it.

@RaifSeverence

3 ай бұрын

Most hentai games don't work on this type of logic though...

@bethanywashington4914

3 ай бұрын

@@RaifSeverence i think they mean hentai anime not games, there are tons that have the whole "r word then until they like it" plot

@pufflord_gamesonicsoloesyo2365

3 ай бұрын

@@bethanywashington4914 Well the idea isn't that come to like it, it's that they're mind broken and basically hypnotized... not to say that really makes it any better, but yeahhhhhhhhh. That concept is quite a weird one to mess with. Especially worse in the acted real life stuff

@bethanywashington4914

3 ай бұрын

@@pufflord_gamesonicsoloesyo2365 I know "mind breaking" ones but I'm thinking more about the " dubious consent" themed ones where the person starts of saying no and it's obviously not something they want only for them to end up enjoying it and seeking out the person who did that to them. Both are odd and uncomfortable lol

@pufflord_gamesonicsoloesyo2365

3 ай бұрын

@@bethanywashington4914 Ah thought so, makes more sense with your og comment looking back. I will say though, I'm into a lot of whacky stuff, and even I have no idea how people find that stuff appealing. Having a friend that's into that kinda stuff, I'm even like how? But at the end of the day, as long as it aint in front of my face, I dont care. Kinda hard to avoid sometimes honestly tho. Either way, I entirely agree they're odd.

Intimacy in horror can be so incredibly emotional if done right- but somehow people always land on "let's blame the victim and make them the villain" and that's so incredibly sad. I wish Amanda had gotten a better writing team😭 this duology feels more like shock horror than anything. Look how messed up we can make it! Isn't that spooky? No dude it's just lazy💀

@HiBuddyyyyyy

3 ай бұрын

*cough* Bloober. Seriously though, why do so many people land on that conclusion? It’s pretty obvious who the villain is, the person who actually did the bad thing.

@SofieLoaf

3 ай бұрын

@@HiBuddyyyyyy literallly. Should not be hard to realize but apparently it is. I thought it'd be common sense but clearly not💀

@4T3hM4kr0n

3 ай бұрын

what's intimacy horror? Like finding out your loved one has a violent side to them but claims that they did it all for you?

@SofieLoaf

3 ай бұрын

@@4T3hM4kr0n intimacy IN horror- as in sexual content in a horror setting, sorry😅 I didn't want to risk the creator getting demonetized or having my comment removed so i phrased it kinda weird

@reader398

3 ай бұрын

You can mention sex in the comments, or else every major KZreadr would get banned for things they can't control

When Warhammer 40,000 handles the topics of excess and sexual violence with more subtlety and tact, that's a pretty good indication that your story is garbage. Which is saying something, because as much as I love 40k, it can get pretty dumb on its own.

@anon9469

3 ай бұрын

Granted, the reason 40k is mostly better is that someone is standing there with a big sign reading "don't go into it or we can't sell it to 11-year-olds".

@adenosine2electricboogaloo647

2 ай бұрын

@anon9469 daemonculaba

@pensandshakers

2 ай бұрын

@@anon9469 Yeah, the only topics Warhammer handles tastefully are the ones that parents will get up in arms about. Which is so weird to me, because Servitors exist? My mom would take one look at that and ban me from it until I'm at least 16. Heck, I'm 27 and sometimes I don't feel old enough to linger too long in 40k's lore. It's very in-your-face horror and death in everything except one way.

@slueepy1232

22 күн бұрын

Are we talking about the same Wh40k, the one that has the Daemonculaba?

the funny thing is these games could have an interesting take on sexual enjoyment vs sexual exploitation, with Amanda as a protagonist like you suggested. a person traumatised by the cult and trying to eliminate it so no one has to suffer like she did. and as someone with SA trauma, the angle of "I liked it in the end" could be explored as horror and how the brain tries to shut out the trauma, and how facing what happened to us and overcoming it is healthier in the long run.

The helicopter noise when the..ahem toy was spinning killed me

This video was worth watching just for "I don't think this is what anyone meant when they called the genre 'Lovecraft'. That is the funniest joke I've written into this script, it's all downhill from here." It's okay if everything is less funny than that, not everything can be pure comedy gold.

@przemysawpietras8497

Ай бұрын

"They can't be all gold" Black Mage

Hot take: Scorn is sexier than the Lust games

@danthiel8623

3 ай бұрын

Interesting

@HiBuddyyyyyy

3 ай бұрын

Agreed. Also I find that when people try so very hard to make something sexy it just circles around to being unsexy, so that makes it that much easier for scorn to win that.

@LadyMisalein

3 ай бұрын

Scorn is a big HEAR ME OUT of mine..

@garlicbreadstick404

3 ай бұрын

The glucky machine

@Flesh_Wizard

3 ай бұрын

@@garlicbreadstick404 the zloppy toppy machine

Its just porn scorn, honestly I dont hate the idea, it fails on most fronts but it tries to be a video game version of Clive Barker, which I respect I think the idea of deeply physcosexual horror is intriguing and can be done well but this game just stumbled alot.

@Reac2

3 ай бұрын

Isn't Scorn porn scorn already? I definitely felt the "this is someone's fetish" at every turn

@Flesh_Wizard

3 ай бұрын

Scornography

@nooneofnote8453

2 ай бұрын

The thing is we have the game Jericho for that

@asuka_the_void_witch

2 ай бұрын

@@Reac2 not at all

@asuka_the_void_witch

2 ай бұрын

scorn came out years later so

I'm honestly am so SO tired of seeing this idea that liking sex more than the "normal" amount means you will inevitably become violent and abusive. Like not all people who like sex like BDSM or what not. It's over done, boring, and just really annoying to keep seeing over and over again.

@WynneL

3 ай бұрын

Quite! I'm one of the horniest creatures on the planet and but I've only had like 3% of the sex I've wanted to have because I'm also mega-repressed and shy. Anytime I'm in a relationship, that dude's gettin' bruised south of the border by everything south of MY border, but it would never be anything but consensual because I am also a fluffy bunny inside. Horny people can be sweethearts too. Even when they're also BDSM aficionados. Hell, one of my boyfriends didn't work out because I only wanted to tie him down, blindfold him, and give him orders; not beat his cheeks purple like he craved.

@Rebelco

3 ай бұрын

And people that are into BDSM stuff are the most chill people I know and just do their stuff when they and their partner is in the mood. And for me the sex part is the most boring one of a BDSM relationship, I love to just be tied up and cuddle with my mistress at night and then talk a little and then maybe do something more horny if we both are in the mood.

@GreyfauxxGaming

3 ай бұрын

Or that people who practice BDSM are animals.

@damiensileven5750

3 ай бұрын

I mean most the police reports literally have these things in those types of behavioral actions and doings. I mean you can't complain about it if it's part of the case.

@aria5614

3 ай бұрын

I want a game where the protagonists are BDSM horndogs going up against an ultra puritan Villain who comes up with all these convoluted schemes and is VERY abusive physically and emotionally, and a male protagonist that comes from a Christian background goes "dude it sounds like you REALLY need to masterbate. Trust me, you'll feel so much better and lose all this pent up sexual tension you've got going on. Seriously I studied the Bible front to back. It's fine."

worst thing is there's obvious potential in these and a lot of effort has been put into them, if only they could've gotten some competent writers

@khanlusa

3 ай бұрын

Genuinely, yes, they clearly worked hard on the visual elements/design, there's a lot of grotesquely sexual and biomechanical imagery, it's neat. The writing is just a dumpster fire.

@apathy_syndrome

2 ай бұрын

Imagine how different it could have been if they had a single person on the team without the weird "sex is degenerate" worldview. Or even just. A single woman.

@derekeastman7771

2 ай бұрын

@@apathy_syndromesurely that’s the problem here

@grilledcheez08

2 ай бұрын

I adored all the visuals of the games, but agree that the story was meh including gameplay. Maybe if they ever make a third they could fund the writing department 😄

@peacefulgrotesque1510

Ай бұрын

There were some genuinely cool looking assets in this video (loved the masks and some of the hallway textures). Real shame their only use might ever be "Edgelord: The Game"

The victim of abuse wishing same abuse upon everyone is not impossible thing... Some victims sadly fall deeper into their trauma, making them treat trauma as normalcy. Most observed victims who repeatedly get themselves into same abusive situation are domestic abuse victims, not all, but some. Even military personnel who have been discharged due to PTSD, some of them join some other military related business, where they can keep on living in the trauma that has become normalcy to them. Even child victims of abuse can become future abusers. It is a vicious cycle that continues, only ending when victim of abuse themselves don't fall into the vicious cycle, thus not making new victims of which some can become new abusers and so on.

@KiwiSpartan01

3 ай бұрын

This is true. They either reject it or it's they become obsessed with it

@katanimefan966

3 ай бұрын

It’ll never end because victims hardly ever become abusers. Abusers can come from anything, they can have healthy childhoods and just be sick in the head. They can go from a tame subject and escalate to crimes, going further and further each time, and victims properly treating their trauma doesn’t mean that they won’t be hurt again or that they’re helping to end a cycle. Abusers will always exist.

@oneoranota

3 ай бұрын

It's actually more frequent than not, that victims then become abusive if they don't treat their trauma properly. Something about interiorization of the abuse.

@thepinkestpigglet7529

3 ай бұрын

And the game devs did not think of that

@KiwiSpartan01

3 ай бұрын

​@alexgac1801 this is true. Speaking from experience

"Now that we can cast the most powerful spell of all : bullet" I was drinking soup, now my keyboard is on the brink of death. What have you done, lady?

Credit where credit's due, the game has some cool mask designs.

@AnkhAnanku

3 ай бұрын

That yonic statue was pretty dope, too

@khanlusa

3 ай бұрын

Oh yeah, there were a lot of neat visuals and they clearly worked hard with the Giger inspirations.

This video randomly popped up on my feed, and this kinda shit tends to activate my neurons. I came for the piqued interest. I stayed for….. whatever fucking madness we just gradually descended into

ngl some of the nightmare hellscapes they make are kinda interesting and inspired. Feels like you could do something interesting with those, if it wasn't written with the most juvenile understanding of sex you could imagine

@anon9469

3 ай бұрын

It's got some interesting ideas with the whole 'the whole otherworld is a prison for its gods, who are trying to con mortals into helping them escape'... if it didn't insert 'fucking' as an adjective after every noun in that sentence.

@Vednier

3 ай бұрын

Well, honestly most of this out of world views is quite boring. Endless caves and roots. How inventive.

3:02 Outlast 2 and RE:7 also taught us that it's never a good idea to search for your missing wife.

@user-hv9he6jc1v

3 ай бұрын

RE:7 was my first thought after he said Silent Hill 2 lol

@-Wayla-

3 ай бұрын

I have a feeling Outlast did a better job of portraying Lustful Cult

@Cappuccino_Rabbit

3 ай бұрын

Dead space too, damn what's up with horror games and missing wives?

@guggelguggel7491

2 ай бұрын

​​@@Cappuccino_Rabbitquick and easy inciting incident to force a guy into The Horrors

@massgunner4152

2 ай бұрын

​@@Cappuccino_Rabbitthe worst part was searching for your wife was the sidequest, poor Isaac was there to fix an antenna.

"If there's anything Silent Hill 2 taught me it's that this can only go well for him." And my shocked laughter rang into the night.

The helicopter sound at [4:07] made my spit out my coffee 😆 Excellent, top tier, simply marvellous editing.

So this entire series is basically gorn (if gorn is an excessive mix of gore to the point of it being like po*n, then is there a word for that but with SA instead of gore?) for the sake of gorn and nothing else. Ugh there's no interesting message here; feels like the only reason this exists is for the devs to go, "Oooh look how nasty we are! Aren't you grossed out?!"

@aoooso6000

2 ай бұрын

like bro we kill each other on a daily basis and we got so good at it we started beginning ourselves to stop

@_DMNO_

Ай бұрын

Don't sully the good name of Gorn. That game may be all about beating the crap out of people, but at least it isn't perverted.

@StalwartTirith

Ай бұрын

@@_DMNO_ Oh Gorn the game having that name is perfectly fine since the game itself is good at being self-aware of how over the top it is lol

Honestly can see this being a genuinly creepy game even with theme of sex but the writing needs to be way better and far less edgelordy. That last line during the boss battle with Amanda is just one example of the cringe. This is like a p-hub parody of HPL stories lol

@RipOffProductionsLLC

2 ай бұрын

I mean, that line is pretty edgy, and was likely written in that "oh, that's so edgy/'deep', it's gonna freak out all the stuck up prudes, man" mindset, I could see it being used unchanged in an actually serious context where themes about cycles of abuse and trauma were explored... this game just isn't that.

@morgantodd3748

2 ай бұрын

@@RipOffProductionsLLC It's not about exploring cycles of abuse and trauma. It's about following up the twist ending of the first game while also disturbing you.

Are we sure it's inspired by Lovecraft and not by "an average day in the world of Slaanesh"?

@anothernerd6464

3 ай бұрын

That’s what I was thinking. This is just Slaanesh with less rock n roll

@fuug1084

3 ай бұрын

This entire game is just POV: You’re an eldar on commoragh hours before your kind birth the spookiest chaos god

@StarboyXL9

3 ай бұрын

Even Slaanesh would find this trite.

@lactofermentation

3 ай бұрын

@@anothernerd6464 And less color.

@anon9469

3 ай бұрын

@@StarboyXL9 Slaanesh: yes yes, I *get* that you have a thing for dismemberment. But can we please have something else?

Mature horror game is Darkwood. Nothing beats eldritch horror.

@Better_Clean_Than_Green

Ай бұрын

The fact that Darkwood doesn't even have any scripted jumpscares and still manages to force you to crap is awesome I still remember camping in the corner of every single night until the end of the game😂 And the third hideout was much more scrarier than the swamp hideout in my opinion - ain't surviving in a tight asylum surrounded by red chompers😭

When you said "Willard was right. Let's fuck." I really thought that was you summing up her monologue. holy shit I didn't expect the dev actually putting that in XD

@cultofnatethemagnificent5879

2 ай бұрын

They have the subtlety of a falling elephant

So this is all just a weird fetish? "No it's horror" I have yet to experience a shred of fear that outweighs the mound of disgust.

@dangerszewski9816

3 ай бұрын

visceral disgust is horror too-- that's the essence of body horror, Grand Guignol-style horror and splattercore.

@LeBatteur

3 ай бұрын

@@dangerszewski9816 I’m just annoyed, not disgusted or horrified.

@_DMNO_

Ай бұрын

You'd be surprised how often those lines cross in some people. Could be the most downright gross thing, and yet it just works for some random dude.

@astrix_moon8334

16 күн бұрын

@@_DMNO_ *cough cough* yandere dev

@TheCallOfTheValkyrie

9 күн бұрын

@@dangerszewski9816 You know damn well this game doesn't accomplish that either lmao

Boy do I hate “parallel dimensions” that just look like fleshy cave systems with a few seemingly man made structures. Who even started this trend? Half-Life was the first to do it, and Zen was incredibly open and full of floating islands, Doom’s version of hell is also open, why do people do this? Draw distance?

@emikochan13

3 ай бұрын

Giger and Cronenberg popularised it. plants but flesh is a pretty simple jump, afterall a field of flowers is a field of sex organs.

@neoqwerty

3 ай бұрын

There's a horror in feeling that you're inside something, but this absolutely does not nail it. The correct way to do it is to bring all the weird things bodies do: veins and arteries pulse to a heartbeat (bonus if your goal is the heart, to destroy it), membrane sphincters stickily open and then spasm shut, mucus glistens on some of the surfaces, ulcer-ridden floors mark paths irritated by the feet of previous travellers, some of the corridors shove you forward with rippling all through them like a mimicry of peristalsis, some coridors widen and shrink with gusts of air back and forth as the thing breathes with you in its airway, strange side tunnels chewed through muscle tissue hint at parasites large enough to devour YOU if you encountered them, somewhere in that unknown creature you're trapped within... You know, make you uneasy by shoving the knowledge you are exploring something living, breathing, moving, right in your face. Most flesh levels forget that part of why the gross uneasiness works at making the player want OUT of that level FAST.

@StarboyXL9

3 ай бұрын

@@emikochan13"a field of flowers is a field of sex organs" Straight out of my fantasies.

@anon9469

3 ай бұрын

"Half-Life was the first to do it" And there's your answer.

@thesmithbros7712

3 ай бұрын

@@anon9469 he means the first to make parallel dimensions compact meat caves not the first to have a parallel dimension

Now, while sexual horror is definitely something that COULD be explored... You really couldn't get away with it without pulling some major taboos in the game. For the hypothetical dev, make it a decent into hedonistic madness and a loss of morality. Starts out light, maybe colors are a bit more colorful and food is described as tasting better or even has regained its flavor after a stagnant life, descends into utter disgusting debauchery. Lean into it being gross, because it is, and make the player the last shred of the character's conscience. So basically make a game about someone falling to Slaanesh.

@anothernerd6464

3 ай бұрын

Was about to say “this is just slaanesh”

@morgantodd3748

2 ай бұрын

Honestly what we got is probably about as deep into Slaanesh territory as the game coulda gotten while still being allowed on Steam.

@AC-dk4fp

Ай бұрын

@@morgantodd3748 No there's some Slaaneshi routes in plenty of eroge on steam. The problem with this game is it wants to look like a more expensive Amnesia but the team don't have Frictional's Experience and writing or a doujin community to compete with like the better Japanese erotic horror games.

very glad that you took time to talk about bdsm as a normal thing, since there are many misconceptions and it's often used to paint people as dangerous in media

The degree to which you are unimpressed with the games attempts at using an overbearing amount of erotica and 'themes' for shock value was far more entertaining than the games themselves sound.

i LOVE your "im so done with this but i gotta finish it" attitude, please make more videos about "mature" games

Train wreck of the first game aside: I wish there were more of a clear dichotomy in the second game: a sex-positive cult that treasured consent and celebrated K1nks and f33t and Bd3m and showed how these weren't 'bad' things and that giving and receiving pleasure can be 'sacred' (ha). The bad cult would have been: focused on self-pleasure- taking without asking and overriding another's will. The end result of both-cults-are-bad-for-the-same-reasons was just poor writing imho.

@kingcyclops4079

3 ай бұрын

I don’t want to defend this game but I will say this is kind of a weak criticism. The game doesn’t need to talk down to the audience and explain that “kinks are good as long as everyone is consenting.” This game is made for adults and doesn’t need to teach people such a basic lesson about consent. The point is that the SA and assault is horrifying and the player should be horrified. Granted, the game does a bad job at conveying that because the imagery is so rampant and blunt that you just become numb to it while playing, it ceases to be horrifying as intended and just becomes annoying as it tries desperately to go “ooo look isn’t this gross and scary???”

@jarvisequine6643

3 ай бұрын

​@@kingcyclops4079I completely agree! The topic of a sex crazed cult definitely has potential to be a cool horror game but it needs to be done in a way that is correct and doesn’t involve non consented acts

@mjoberg6695

3 ай бұрын

@@kingcyclops4079 Fair point. I 100% agree on the numbness. And yes you're right these things are meant to be portrayed as horrifying. I think for me it was just that they displayed k1nks AS the grotesque parts. Like "ooo look at how taboo!!" while also lumping them together with SA and murder and mutilation. Obviously not the nuance I expect from this game but I just wish there were more separation.

@mjoberg6695

3 ай бұрын

Like the game could have gone steadily more creepy and/or messed up as the 'bad' influences started to take hold of the "good" cult and we watch them become more vicious and evil over time. Turning something positive into something awful- watching the horror unfold as your character is unable to do anything about it. But the fact that one cult was a sad1sm light and the other was sad1sm BIG felt lazy.

@kingcyclops4079

3 ай бұрын

@@mjoberg6695 I would say the better way would be to have the horror instead be more psychological. You and your wife meet this cult and thinking it’s just some nice commune full of people who are a little too open but still nice. But as the game goes on, hints are dropped throughout the experience that something is wrong. Your wife becomes more involved in the cult’s rituals til eventually you try to just casually leave after an argument with your wife but then you are kidnapped and taken cult’s dungeons. Now the game can be more harder with its subject and lean into horror. We are shown how over time people get indoctrinated, maybe the wife is miserable and turns to the cult for support that the husband can’t provide or they help heal her trauma. You see the members of the cult and how seemingly normal they are on the surface before it’s revealed much later how the cult has warped and twisted their lives. The goal in my hypothetical is to show the real horror in how evil can hide in plain sight and manipulate you and even go as far as to normalize their behavior. The later part if the game can delve into the whole cosmic horror stuff but what’s more important is to show the cult members as people first, get to know them and sympathize with them til it’s eventually revealed how dangerous the cult actually is. This can make the player feel both sympathy and dread towards the cult members as they are also being manipulated like the wife but they’re also antagonists who have done horrible things but to what extent they did so freely is subjective to how the player views the cult as a whole.

"Well, I had no idea how quickly the horror community - and it is a community - would wake up to the idea of scary porn. I wanted to release books that would give the reader a boner, but leave him too terrified to do anything about it. Within a week, I've coined the phrase "books that will scare you stiff", we've opened up a new "horrotica" division, and our sales just went silly." - Dean Learner, club owner, entrepreneur and publisher of high-class gentleman's magazines.

@alpha_9997

3 ай бұрын

Please please please tell me this is real

@KiwiSpartan01

3 ай бұрын

Is it?

@Sarydormi

2 ай бұрын

@@alpha_9997 well the "Dean Learner" isn't real, though the comedy shows he was used in are real

@alpha_9997

2 ай бұрын

@@Sarydormi tragedy. An honest to god tragedy

@Dreigonix

2 ай бұрын

I _do_ love scary porn; you got me there.

You know. The fact that this game series can't acutally show or say anything interesting or meaningful or truly interesting on how hedonism and obessing over pleasure can lead you down a dark path is honeslty imrpessive in a sad way. Seirously if you just removed the gore these games really aren't...Anything.? It's not as if its that hard to take this premise and make it interesting or have something to say. All you really have to do is just do what the warhammer franchise does with it's slaanesh character. The demon god of pleasure and pain. It's not seeking pleasure that's the problem or joy. It's chasing an ever bigger high and more and more of it, till you wind up devoving into a complete degernate and monster, so fixated on finding pleasure that you lose your humanity and hollow yourself out till you can't even think about anything other than pleasure. That is littearly the ONLY thing these games had to do. Showcase how both cults/groups started off innocent enouph with just a group of people wanting to have some fun exploring their sexuality. But slowly fell into depravity by chasing more and more acts of hedioism till finnaly it got out of hand and went too far into outright torture and force. Heck make both cults once, one group that broke apart over someting so minor and stupid that it's lauphable but the members were so far gone that they couldn't stop and think about what they were doing for 5 minutes. It would be interesting. Espiaclly if many people are simply lying to themselves about enjoying this and deluding themselves out of a desperate attempt to not admit how far they have fallen and how much self hatred they have for what they have done. Amanda alone could of been great, if she kept lying to herself and got more and more unstable as the stories went on till she finnaly breaks down as she sees the truth.

@oneoranota

3 ай бұрын

Heck, just make a full game about sex addiction ! That would be both horrifying enough, and allow focus on the porn to make it better for the loonies who want to jerk off of a videogame.

@michaeledwards6683

2 ай бұрын

so you’re saying you want a story of the eye videogame

@AC-dk4fp

Ай бұрын

There are plenty of indie Eroge that actually do that they're just less rigidly scripted and give the player full agency to expore the various areas. Even just giving the player the option to reload a save to work out how to get around an SA scene or letting the player choose to repeat the scene with more consensual descriptions is enough to actually use porn cliches to actually say something via just basic integration with game mechanics.

I can't help feeling like these games would be significantly more compelling if they were actually made by and for people who are into hard kink, rather than people who are just rubbernecking about how edgy and twisted the vague pop-culture idea of BDSM is

@FelisImpurrator

Ай бұрын

Unironically the only thing I picked them up on deep sale for, but it's disappointing to find out that this isn't even good smut.

Oh my, the algorithm loved this one, huh? Great video! You managed to take a topic that could *very* easily turned either creepy and uncomfortable or into bland moralizing criticism and managed to ride that thin line of still criticising it but maintaining enough levity to avoid falling into either trap. Well done!

I've always disliked whenever a piece of media thinks in order to be 'mature' they put the grossest, worst thing a person can go though just for shock value. I'm not a victim of sa myself but it's absolutely disrespectful to victims to use sa as a cheap way to try and use it for shock value The thing is that I think you can talk about this topic with the maturity and respect it deserves. The best example of this is Angela's story in Silent Hill 2. In that game we find out that she was abused as a child at the hands of her father and brother, her mother even knew but allowed it to continue, as a sick way of 'punishing' her, eventually this abuse results in Angela killing her father and running away to Silent Hill. The reason why it works where this game fails is that it treats Angela's story respectfully, there's no detailed seen of it happen, theres no flashback, we see how this traumatic event effected Angela. Not only that but it makes it clear that we shouldn't sympathise with her family, while we don't meet them the game shows them as the vile monsters they are, a father and son that abused an innocent person, their own daughter/sister just for their sick pleasure, and a mother that allowed it to happen right in front of her eyes. To this day its one of the few pieces of media that treats the topic of sa and the victim with respect and care

@theoneslayer8560

3 ай бұрын

I do agree that Silent Hill treats this scenario respectfully, but I would argue that not showing the scene doesn't make it more respectful; there is a terror and visceral nature to seeing SA that can't be captured just in the after-effects, and authors should be allowed to do that. Whether they handle that well or not is up to how good the author is at that. For example, Fear and Hunger handles SA pretty well; it's fucked up, it's painful to watch, and it doesn't come off in any way as pretentious or tryhard, it's just presented as a "it happened and now you live (or die) with it" fashion. The depiction of it, however, is pretty damn visceral and not censored at all. Berserk is a more famous example; Guts has a very terrible past, and his sexual trauma does not get shied away from in its depiction.

@skysiren4113

3 ай бұрын

@@theoneslayer8560 I agree, I didn't mean you can't show a scene of someone being abused, but it's more that a lot of the time when it is shown it comes across as fetishy and trying to shock the audience (13 reasons why is a good example on a piece of media having a scene of a character being abused and it comes across as trying to be as gross as possible just to shock the audience) but like you said both Fear and Hunger and Berserk show these scenes but it doesn't come across as trying to be edgy or the writers gross fetish, it's to show the cruel reality of these characters lives and how it effects them

@Pooky1991

3 ай бұрын

I feel like Rule of Rose also handles SA and more serious topics better than most horror games.

@bimates2690

3 ай бұрын

It’s fictional, it doesn’t matter imo. From a csa survivor, I mean, yeah they could treat it with “care,” but that could be said with every form of violence in media. Also, the “writer’s barely disguised f*tish” lol.

@picahudsoniaunflocked5426

3 ай бұрын

"For me, it's always like this." will haunt me 4evr. One of my most persistent thoughts thru this video was "It's as if the devs thought Abstract Daddy was the coolest thing in SH & threw away all the meaning + gameplay beyond visceral Abstract Daddy-ness".

What in the cinnamon toast crunch were the people making these games were smoking?? Like... why when people think mature game = let's add some random sex and characters fcking everywhere?

@pummeluff230

3 ай бұрын

For some people adding Sex randomly seems to count as maturity.

@anon9469

3 ай бұрын

> We should make a sex game, that always sells well. > We should make a horror game, that's popular in the indie scene. > We should combine these in the worst way possible.

@Pihsrosnec

Ай бұрын

​@@anon9469as opposed to the best way, which is how "sucker for love" was created

@seigeengine

Ай бұрын

because we're talking about two things. Mature can either mean "related to things we consider to be bad for kids to see" but also "an advanced understanding and portrayal." The latter isn't going to get marketed as a "mature" game. Nobody hears "mature game" and thinks "wow, this is going to have a balanced and sober depiction of complex topics."

I feel old as hell saying this but I could have swore at some point you would have found the puzzle box and pinhead was gonna show up I thought this honestly was a hellraiser game

There are games that hit this kind of horror better. I forget the names of the earlier one and have yet to complete Fear&Hunger. Reproductive horror, body horror, mutation and other worlderly entities causing these are topics that are usually avoided or hinted at. When heavily used are usually crude. It’s one of the best means for a malevolent Eldritch being to corrupt, controll, and invade a realm/planet since you can “create” followers and slowly build you cult over centuries. It’s mostly just weird smut though. 😢

@derekeastman7771

2 ай бұрын

That last sentence can pretty much sun both of these games up.

I can't with the dialogue omg😭😭😭

@khanlusa

3 ай бұрын

Amanda's delivery on "let's fuck" took me out, I had to get up from the desk and wheeze elsewhere 😂💀

They really went a weird direction with the Majora's Mask sequel, huh?

These games should be horror parodies instead like Five Nights at Anime's where you can die to a jumpscare of an animatronic twerking in your face.

@neonrelmsproductions4224

3 ай бұрын

Never be like that game. The creator got caught liking children. 💀

@gimmeyourrights8292

3 ай бұрын

@@neonrelmsproductions4224 Of course he did........

@bellslimes

3 ай бұрын

Yeah that’s called a jumplove instead of a jumpscare (I have been exposed to too much on the internet)

@matiascardullo7637

3 ай бұрын

@@neonrelmsproductions4224 i tried to search about that and didnt find any thread exposing her, were did you get that info?

@neonrelmsproductions4224

3 ай бұрын

@@matiascardullo7637 for one thing, a woman didn't make that game so already you're looking in the wrong direction. 💀

When I heard it's a Polish studio behind this thing, I knew it's gonna be severe

@byofloral

3 ай бұрын

As a polish person honestly im very disturbed

@manglednatalia

3 ай бұрын

@@byofloral and as someone who's Polish too I have a whole soup of feelings about this

@bobskywalker2707

3 ай бұрын

I dunno something like this is more of a Finnish game

@byofloral

2 ай бұрын

@@bobskywalker2707 maybe but polish people can create very weird things

@kohinattosru8587

2 ай бұрын

Polish people can be very creative and innovative, but are mostly able to talk about s3x only when drunk... And then it's simply disgusting and nothing more...

I find it funny how they call these two games lovecraft inspired but it feels and looks more dante inferno than lovecraft heck to add insult to injury they added a Cthulhu statue in lust for darkness to have something lovecraftian in their game as an excuse to say it is.

@derekeastman7771

2 ай бұрын

It is Lovecraftian though? There’s weird beings from who-knows-where and cultists and what-not. It’s just that somebody decided to go public with their weird, culty, rape fetish. For some reason.

@thehorrorarchivers7347

2 ай бұрын

@@derekeastman7771 It looks like it but it does not feel like it heck if i remember howard lovecraft mention he was uncomfortable with the topic of sex wich is why the eldritch gods appeared just because and it takes more than just alien beings from who knows where and cults for the game to be classed as lovecraftian.

@morgantodd3748

2 ай бұрын

It's more like Warhammer than Dante.

@thehorrorarchivers7347

2 ай бұрын

@@morgantodd3748 oh how so what reminded you of warhammer?

@morgantodd3748

2 ай бұрын

@@thehorrorarchivers7347 It's Slaanesh cult stuff.

I think this is the result of PC gaming becoming mainstream and Steam deciding to no longer ban explicit sexual content letting devs play with the kind of extreme adult content that used to be taboo in western games and going overboard because of the novelty of it Sort of like that period in the 2000s when nearly every horror movie was gorey torture-porn because the MPAA suddenly decided they were okay releasing that sort of thing with an R-rating where mainstream theaters would show it

@pummeluff230

3 ай бұрын

That is an interesting thought. So maybe this is kind of carthasis. A liberating act before something really mature can happen... So does this mean... Steam hits puperty now?

@vivil2533

3 ай бұрын

Even if that's not the case, there will always be people who just want to push the boundaries just for the shock value.

@exosproudmamabear558

3 ай бұрын

Yeah I think so too. It is same for early +18 manhwas and it is still going on. Most mature content in manhwas are focusing on the taboo subjects and spectacle of it rather than realism, pshychological accuracy,character building,story etc. Completely normal people with caring personalities somewhat turn into a sex freaks in bed that do non con or rape. After that victim doesnt even get trauma or some shit. Even the ones with normal relationships start with sex in the first chapter and they start fucking around like rabbits every two chapters because they put the smut tag so they need to milk it dry. As a person who is used to read ffs with little to no sex scenes or sex scenes only given thought bonus chapters. This kinda behaviour is weird for me. I dont wanna read a 50 chapter porn we have one shots for that,I wanna read 50 chapter substance or I am gonn leave bwcause if wantwd porn I would go for porn.

@RipOffProductionsLLC

2 ай бұрын

@@vivil2533 sure, there are always folks pushing boundaries, but once a boundary "brakes" and a regulation/ban gets lifted or taboo becomes excepted(often because enough boundary pushers wore it out and no one cares anymore) then those folks need to go farther or simply become part of the "norm". In a way that sort of was the topic/"theme" the game almost kinda tries to touch on with the degenerative lust obsessed cult and the god they worship.

00:35 H.R.Giger's work alone is 80% sexual content, it is just so distorted, most people just don't realize it. Too me a decade to see the obvious. "Hrony Nonsense" is the perfect summary of this...

I wonder if the reason some horror games use a lot of s3xu@l stuff because it's also considered taboo. You aren't supposed to see it, and I guess to developers, that might as well be the same as "indescribable horrors" (if that makes any sense).

@masterblaster2678

3 ай бұрын

It might be used as a tool to get you out of your comfort zone by pushing the non-standart upon you, we are so used to blood and gore nowadays that for some reason sexual depictions repulse us more so it feels like a more powerful tool. Games with a sensitive understanding of this use the threat of r*** to make you feel helpless and powerless rather than... what this game did with it.

@AC-dk4fp

Ай бұрын

@@masterblaster2678 Even the porny and insensitive version becomes at least interpretable as interesting commentary by giving more control to the player and pulling back on the scripting. But if you're going to be producing pregnancy horror don't hire a writer who's only scared of other people getting pregnant and expect relatable protagonists out of them.

@_DMNO_

Ай бұрын

Personally, I'm a lot more disturbed by sexual themes than gore/physical violence. I can see real gore and not be bothered in the slightest. Sexual violence however, always puts me off. It's gross and it's just worse than blood or death.

I can get behind this horny nonsense. Suppose we make a drinking game out of it, where we take a shot Everytime something pointless happens whose sole purpose is shock value. How drunk would we be?

@just_going_mads

3 ай бұрын

Dead, I think...

@irregularstuff5290

3 ай бұрын

Alcohol poisoning by the middle of the first game if we're lucky.

@Flesh_Wizard

3 ай бұрын

Rest in rip Alcohol poisoning

@commiedeer

3 ай бұрын

Pretty sure your liver would be finished before the game was... at least the second one.

@voidsatas1524

Ай бұрын

We'd be so dead we wouldnt exist

I don't know why I was recommended this video, why I clicked on it, or why I watched for as long as I did. All I want to say is that you have a very nice voice and narration style. Now back to looking at more cat videos to clean up my recommended feed.

@tsundor1

Ай бұрын

same i'm worried for my recommended now lol

A marriage and family is ruined in the most repulsive way imaginable: The Game

Games as medium have so much potential to get uncomfortable with "hedonistic descent into madness" trope. Make normal world design intentionally boring, but make other world impressive, sweeping vistas and shit, not a fleshy hf1 level. Then have nps point it out, isn't it so much beautiful? Make messed up choices reward player with more lore, forbidden knowledge and all that stuff. Make satisfying combat sequence, a power trip with limbs flying and finishing animations. Then you get to bad guy after, he's like - "Wasn't it fun? I know it was"

I got Lust of Darkness for shuts and giggles and because I love Lovecraftian mythos but I couldn't finish the game because I just find it so silly and bad. It's not even funny bad. It's just bad.

As someone who has seen the worst of internet things (Don't ask me about the maid or the bugs) I looked at the trailer for each and simply just was bored. Its listed as a porn on steam and it acts like a porn with nothing really to say. Outlast 1 and 2 did a simlar thing to me where nudity was used so much you kind off get to this feeling numbness and just want to go back to slime rancher, gears of war or even just a better more relaxing fap like honey select. You saying that "This could have just been endless happiness and nothing would change" was a perfect way to describe them. Subbed because trying to dissect filth and taking the lessons on how not to write or create is interesting and i would love to hear your thoughts on this.

@khanlusa

3 ай бұрын

I'm glad most people are understanding the point I wanted to make b/c god damn it this can be done well, they just didn't do anything with the subject matter.

@morgantodd3748

2 ай бұрын

But it wouldn't be viscerally repulsive if everyone was just blissed out and the portals took you to your happy place. It'd be uncomfortable at worst.

@hamburger3797

Ай бұрын

No idea how you can bundle in outlast with this game when they are completely different???

@khanlusa

Ай бұрын

@@hamburger3797 I think it's mostly the rape & sexual abuse that can happen to the protagonists

"Becky, get the gun. Ya, it's the damn leatherdaddies again".

"i need to be investigated by the fbi" types

So, the game basically tries to be as graphic and disturbing as possible that it loops back around to being silly? I will say I kind of enjoy the fleshy environments this game has, it definitely nails that lovecraftian feel

@RipOffProductionsLLC

2 ай бұрын

the art direction definitely had some good ideas, maybe a bit too derivative of H R Geiger, but that's to be expected considering just his work on Alien and Species

Love the video, but I also appreciate the vampire masquerade theme in the background in the beginning. Got a nice kick of nostalgia with that.

I played the first game and was disappointed with the over saturation of Giger style in a game billed as a Lovecraftian game. The only thing I saw related to Lovecraft would be one small statue in an office, and a vision of Cthulu himself when looking out the window of said office. The game should of been called a Giger game, not only for the over saturation of the art style but also the obsession with focusing on lust. Also, the voice of the one guy sounded like a jock trying to sound like a jock while occasionally swearing to sound cool.

Got to say, the visuals of this game are pretty good. And that's from a guy who listened to 95% of this and actually looked the screen maybe three times and it was blurred anyways. Ironically, I was referring mostly to textures on doors and walls and the masks. I'm a huge fan of The Cell movie and while this is well below that caliber, it's definitely got a few of the same notes. Someone in the dev team knows a thing or two about art.

@anon9469

3 ай бұрын

Oh yeah, the masks are actually pretty impressive.

@AC-dk4fp

Ай бұрын

The visuals are the problem though. The high fidelity and chasing those graphics hurt it. If it was a 2d game in a tile based engine with similar art design and the cult's mansion slowly transformed and re-arranged as you did puzzles and the reality's merged and there was almost none of this character dialogue just the player character being able to actually interact with the environment it would work so much better.

As everyone said, the idea and theme was interesting, since the subject "Sex in media" always been way more risque than "Violence and Gore", but the execution come out (no pun) a bit forced and edgy.

The image of hovering “unimpressed” Jesus just sends me!😂

@khanlusa

3 ай бұрын

I had to find some way of making the youtube guidelines happy amusing 😭

What if “Horror Games” were called “𝓕𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓴𝔂 Games”?

@temofawwaz7599

2 ай бұрын

And instead of getting jumpscared, you get your feet and toes licked

@master.baiter2050

2 ай бұрын

It reminds me of a hentai games where the protagonist got tortured by sadistic nurses to treat his "fountain" disease

Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines OST fuck now I have to sub

Really glad you made the best and most important criticism of these pretentious games - all of the sexual stuff is deeply tertiary, merely a premium skin for a standard modern day eldritch horror. All it adds is aesthetic and an excuse for the writers to feel kooky and play on old stereotypes. its so trite that I feel more insulted that this is otherwise a little competent

This is the first video of yours I'm catching and I have to say I appreciate the mix of deliberate caring caution and playful snark. Subscribed.

these games feels like it was written by someone who actually subscribe to HP Lovecraft's views of the world of treating everything he found scary and disgusting as unknowable, abhorrent and evil. thus concluding to themselves that because they think BDSM is "bad", then that means they should make a game that portrays it in an "evil" way. Stripping (ehe) any form of nuance from this game. instead of invoking the natural elements of otherworldly terror found in Lovecraft's works, this game is just silly and half-baked

I think a lot of these started with the plan of making an unfiltered world but the development overdid it a bit

@satsui2424

3 ай бұрын

I mean they hit the spot? There is no overdoing it in an unfiltered world.

@vyor8837

3 ай бұрын

@@satsui2424 There is... when you don't have *everything* being unfiltered. Everything should be over the top. Beauty should be more beautiful and it should be next to the deepest horrors and disgusts and violences.

17:19 Just wanna point out, Amanda's underwear isn't worn in her normal outfit, you can clearly see she isn't wearing a bra at 16:51. So she changes her clothes to underwear for little, who am I kidding, for no reason.

I tapped out on the first game. What the fuck? It's not horrifying. Or sexy. Or too erotic in 'unconventional' ways. It's just, to borrow a word from the youths, cringe.

This is the first video of yours I’ve seen, and it definitely won’t be my last. I was laughing and cringing the whole time, but I really perked up when I heard the InFamous 2 theme music during the Amanda boss fight

Thanks for listing out the games I MUST play

what makes me most uncomfortable is someone had to construct those assets since I'm sure as hell they aren't in the unity store or whatever engine they used. just thinking about it makes me worry for the sanity of the artist that probably had to make multiple passes over an item to make it more unsettling

@Cyrus_T_Laserpunch

3 ай бұрын

I think a lot of the individual limb assets and limb-filled containers are Unity assets. The naked ones though, if they have "anatomical detail" I think are modified assets. There's a strange amount of variation for unclothed cadavers that already exist, but they, for obvious reasons, don't have that anatomical detail. You can however get assets that are just genitalia and slap them onto an asset, it's a more involved process than I make it sound but it is possible. I'm not an expert, I don't even know the term for it, I just call it asset grafting.

9:30 I thought bro was just putting their spin on what the dialogue was not that it was the actual dialogue

I actually funded the Kickstarter for "Lust from Beyond", just because I knew something like this would never be made by a regular studio. Never played it, though. Have never even installed it. Just watch videos on it from time to time, and from what I've seen, and this one confirms it, It's not my cup of tea, but I'm glad it exists.

@khanlusa

3 ай бұрын

Honestly, I might have been in the same boat had I known about it before hand. I got it because I wanted to see if they threaded the needle between horror and sexuality, but oof

@Mr.Agateophile.

3 ай бұрын

@@khanlusaI played them at release, not knowing anything about them before hand, personally I didn't have as viceral a reaction as you seem to have, I thought they were fine. As far as "threaded the needle between horror and sexuality" I think that's the wrong expectation, at least in the first game, the idea I got was that the cult didn't understand what they were getting into, think Frank Cotton from hellraiser, and that they were all under a sort of "eldritch intoxication" Amanda was basically an addict by the end, either entirely from the effects of Lusst'ghaa or as a coping mechanism. Kind of a gross parody of hypersexuality being one of the most common coping mechanisms for SA perhaps? Though, it has been a while so maybe I just built that all up in my head and none of it is in the game. Funny how that can happen. Edit: Lol, just got to the part where you said a similar thing yourself, oh well.

This has to be the most "I was raised by Evangelical Purity Abstinence Christians and now Im edgy" shit Ive ever seen

With the fact some of the scariest sanity-reducing things the devs could think of were sex outside of marriage and BDSM, It kind of comes across to me as a religious developer airing their frustrations about people treating sex as something for pleasure rather than a means to reproduce within marriage to create new faithful, trying to say something about how it corrupts people to become more and more deviant and degenerate. It gives me the same kind of vibe as all those scenes in horror games that more than anything are outing the developers' fear of childbirth, you know the ones I'm talking about.

@ultimatecultchaos

3 ай бұрын

To the last sentence specifically... why is that so common and stuff?

@naciabell7903

3 ай бұрын

@@ultimatecultchaos I think it's so common beacuse nowadays a lot of people try to educate girls and younger women on pregnancy and birth by frankly obessivly hammering in every single risk, negative and the worst possilbe outcomes of it inlcuding how having a baby will ruin their body and life forever and offers them no benifit etc. etc. The problem is this isn't even fully true and it's often so hammered in that it makes most women and girls utterly terrifed of it as a living nightmare. WHich funny enouph south park a long time ago made an episode all about, calling out how a lot of education about it was litearly just bashing girls over the head with every single negative and gross thing about it practically traumatising them.

@vannessaisapeckneck4618

3 ай бұрын

What was the South Park episode btw?

@naciabell7903

3 ай бұрын

@@vannessaisapeckneck4618 Episode 7 of the 5th season. I can't post it's name due to youtube rules. Just look it up and you'll see why.

@guggelguggel7491

2 ай бұрын

​@@naciabell7903hon, I was one of those girlies educated on pregnancy when growing up, and actually still wanted it. Its not usually telling people the consequences of sex that causes s fear of pregnancy. Also, sex ed usually doesnt hammer in every gorey potential? You're either grossly exaggerating or felt that any detail is too much detail. Is this a yank thing? Or maybe you shouldnt use South Park as a source. I do know that a large part of the fear of pregnancy is the fact that its expected of womb-haver to squeeze out babies no matter what, though sometimes its a fear of commitment thing. Those aren't sex ed problems, those are a, societal value problem (or a sex ed problem in that people should use protection or abortions but thats still largely a values thing). Obviously, its often also a body horror thing (fear of something growing inside you, fear of your body changing), but thats not the only way pregnancy squicks people out?

For anybody who doesn’t know what gyro means here’s what I could find from Wikipedia: Ero guro (Japanese: エログロ) is an artistic genre that puts its focus on eroticism, sexual corruption, and decadence.[1] As a term, it is used to denote something that is both erotic and grotesque. The term itself is an example of wasei-eigo, a Japanese combination of English words or abbreviated words: ero from erotic and guro from grotesque. Just wanted to put it out there

@alexv3372

3 ай бұрын

Edit : Guro

@gamingimpact366

3 ай бұрын

Bro tysm

@zachkoptun9637

3 ай бұрын

I was a bit confused since here in the Philippines guro means teacher.

@alexv3372

3 ай бұрын

Wait WHAT

@alexv3372

3 ай бұрын

Bro that’s crazy

I often wonder why "adult" games are often so badly created and written...or that material like this is just, acceptable to some? I don't know, thanks for going through the pain of playing it so others don't have to.

really felt like they tried to be dark and edgy jsut for the sake of it

I thought Agony was bad It's not that this stuff isn't disturbing, it really is But it's just unnecessary white noise to have all this "mature" nonsense. Its almost boring because of how IN YOUR FACE it all is. Less is more

“Wth is guro?” *googles* “Okay but why is the Filipino word for teacher also the name for gross sub genre of anime?”

@leandraferesthogar7249

3 ай бұрын

True horror is linguistics

@alpha_9997

3 ай бұрын

I now have physical reactions to that word

@sxatcychan1988

3 ай бұрын

@@leandraferesthogar7249 Relateable. I learned in high school that p*do can mean "I fart" in Spanish.

@Ma5jay5dontxdoxthat

3 ай бұрын

I mean we have a dessert that translate to "bitch" in Spanish.

@GiraffeFlavoredCondoms

3 ай бұрын

@@Ma5jay5dontxdoxthatWe do?

This randomly popped up on my feed and this was so worth the watch. I played the Sequel and my experience not even knowing Lust from Beyond was a sequel, beyond the smut I can honestly see the potential for *something* really unique, but instead it felt like like the game was like the writers borrowed a “romantic” book (the ones with the covers that would appeal to a certain demographic paired with a glass of wine) and add a dash of “Lovecraftian” elements. Loved the vid though, glad I clicked on it!

These games should be called We Happy Scorn

@antoniobabb1938

3 ай бұрын

Now that I think about it, you’re right

You'd think that a horror game involving a weird Lovecraftian sex cult sounds like a great idea. Reality was that plying Lust from whatever for one hour was so incredibly boring. Lucky I got my Steam refund for less than 2 hours played.

@AC-dk4fp

Ай бұрын

Its not Lovecraftian its 'Clive Barker if he'd read Lovecraft and fanfiction of his own works rather than George Bataille'. Its all good ideas and visual design the problem is having no talent in any other department.

i like erotic horror but these just arent very good games from the looks of it. its a bit sad when the premise starts with infiltrating a cult and using different masks to solve problems, ah well someones bound to get it right eventually.

@QWERTY-du4hc

3 ай бұрын

The idea was there but imo the puzzles and scavenger hunts while being hunted brought it down heavily. Like with Agony or Scorn. I hate that horror games are supplemented with puzzles to drip feed story to the player. I love the ideas these games bring but without the puzzles, unfortunately they would only last about an hour.

@strawberry_silk3364

3 ай бұрын

A good example of erotic horror is killing stalking in my opinion. kinda sad that it gets misinterpreted so often. Another great suggestion is happy sugar life (but it's not really erotic. Rather a look into the horrors of love)

@somedragonbastard

Ай бұрын

​@@strawberry_silk3364 thank god happy sugar life isn't erotic almost everyone in that show is already going to jail for something we don't need to add csa to that list

@Oneurose

20 күн бұрын

​@@strawberry_silk3364 no offense, but killing stalking kinda sucks

Wow! I've had Lust from Beyond on my steam list forever and still haven't bought it ( Didn't know it was a sequel) but so glad I didn't. I would've gotten tired of it very quickly! Great job on the vid though.

Since s*x is considered to be emotionally very intimate as well as an explicitly private thing (minus weird ancient societies and civilizations) by humanity, trying to display or theme a horror game of all things around is extremely difficult to the point that you are better off making it vaguely implicit than attempt to even think of being explicit or more overtly implicit in any regard.

That sounded like a very unpleasant gaming experience. You have my sympathies. On the bright side, your commentary and annoyance with the games was entertaining in a relatable way.

Who let Slaanesh cook?

@StarboyXL9

3 ай бұрын

The Eldar

@Flesh_Wizard

3 ай бұрын

​@@StarboyXL9the eldar cooked up Slaanesh